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Go Low - Arnold Palmer Invitational Predictions: Scottie Scheffler, Collin Morikawa · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff Go
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Speaker 1: Low Podcast. I'm battling through. I don't even know a
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Speaker 1: little flu cold thing going, but I said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: we got Bayhill next week, We've got the Players. I
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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna hammer Scottie this week. Let's let's do
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Speaker 1: thirty minutes on golf. So we'll do a little golf
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Speaker 1: Today we'll hit on some thoughts on Bayhill is kind
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Speaker 1: of coming down the home stretch with Arnie Gaughn, Shane
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Speaker 1: Lowry and just an all time implosion, kind of good
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Speaker 1: for golf, and just some big picture thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: schedule and the new commissioner from the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: It looks like he's gonna mix some stuff up next
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Speaker 1: week at the Players where they have their big players
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Speaker 1: only meeting led by him. So we'll dive into it all.
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Speaker 1: You guys know the drill. I'll do a big probably
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Speaker 1: and we will answer the questions next week. Appreciate everyone listening,
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Speaker 1: and let's talk some PGA Tour. I remember, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: several years ago Hunter Mayhon, former PGA Tour winner, former
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Speaker 1: Ryder Cupper, is a big football guy, and we become
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Speaker 1: buddies over the years, and I remember him telling me,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on a podcast I
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Speaker 1: had him on or just when we were bsing on text,
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Speaker 1: that players don't like this course and that Tiger didn't
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Speaker 1: like this course, but he played out of reverence for
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Speaker 1: a legend, Arnold Palmer. But I play at TPC. So
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Speaker 1: Tony Finow and I think his oldest son actice there
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Speaker 1: a lot. They go to the back of the range,
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Speaker 1: no one bothers him. And I remember one year, this
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Speaker 1: would have been maybe two or three years ago. This
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure was an elevated event and Tony didn't
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Speaker 1: go and I ran into him right at like kind
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Speaker 1: of the cart barn where you get your balls and
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Speaker 1: for the tour players, he goes up and if he
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Speaker 1: plays pro V's or he plays whatever his ball is,
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Speaker 1: I mean, would imagine the title this guy. They have
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Speaker 1: a special bag for all the tour players, you know,
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Speaker 1: Nick Taylor, Maxhoma, Joel Damon, whoever wants to practice there,
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Speaker 1: wynham Clark if he wants to come, Jake Knapp right,
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Speaker 1: that they get their own balls because unlike US casuals,
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Speaker 1: you don't practice with balls that you're not gonna hit
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Speaker 1: in the round, so you can feel the distances and
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Speaker 1: watch how the ball moves. Novel concept, but hey, that's
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Speaker 1: being a pro. Remember asking like why aren't you There's
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Speaker 1: like I don't like this quse I hate that course,
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Speaker 1: and because of the points that year or whatever, he
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Speaker 1: didn't need to go, but he wasn't a big fan,
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Speaker 1: just like I think most guys. And one thing Hunter
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Speaker 1: told me, if you go back to the Byron Nelson
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Speaker 1: when he was alive, players felt obligated to go, right,
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Speaker 1: So Jack's tournament, Arnold's tournament, and Byron Nelson's tournament when
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Speaker 1: they're all alive, there's like an obligation to attend. It
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Speaker 1: almost be like if there was a basketball tournament. Magic
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Speaker 1: Johnson hosted one, Michael Jordan hosted one, and Larry Bird
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Speaker 1: hosted one. And throughout the year the NBA Cup was
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Speaker 1: three different NBA Cups, and instead of guys sitting out,
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Speaker 1: they would always play in that. Well, if one day
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Speaker 1: one of those guys died, you wouldn't feel as obligated.
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Speaker 1: Right when he's sitting in the front row and greeting
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Speaker 1: you after the game like Jack does, like Arnold did,
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Speaker 1: and Byron Nelson did. There's a human element to this,
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Speaker 1: and I just wonder. Brian Rolapp is not a golf guy.
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Speaker 1: He's even said one of his great advantages is I'm
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Speaker 1: not a country club guy. I don't look at through
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Speaker 1: the lens of This is how it's always been. This
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Speaker 1: is what we do. I come from the NFL. We
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Speaker 1: will pivot and do whatever it takes. Now this is
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Speaker 1: a historic venue because it's Arnold. Well he's gone. Now
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Speaker 1: we have new leadership with no ties to this. The
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Speaker 1: players have never had more juice. I do wonder if
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Speaker 1: over the next several years, this tournament kind of gets
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Speaker 1: thrown to the wayside. I don't think they would ever
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Speaker 1: not play at Bayhill, but it would not shock me
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Speaker 1: if they truly go to the tier system where you
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Speaker 1: have the top guys, the top seventy guys playing in
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Speaker 1: their own tournaments, and then the bottom guys trying to
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Speaker 1: qualify to make those tournaments. This becomes a second tier
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Speaker 1: event that would never have happened if Arnold Palmer was alive,
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Speaker 1: but he's not. Memorial. Probably the course is a lot
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Speaker 1: nicer that whether Jack was around or not. I think
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Speaker 1: that's you know, feels like a riv It feels like,
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Speaker 1: you know, a pebble beach. It feels like a main
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Speaker 1: the players. That's kind of unique because it's the PGA Tour,
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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, like a mainstay on
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Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. I do wonder if this thing's gonna
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Speaker 1: have to fight for life and fight for serious life.
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Speaker 1: That would be my one takeaway because when Hunter said
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Speaker 1: that Tiger wanted all the time and stand that place
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Speaker 1: and you watch, it doesn't look like a fun course
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Speaker 1: to play. I mean, for me, the most memorable moment
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Speaker 1: besides some of Tiger's putts on eighteen are when Bryson
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Speaker 1: just juiced up like he was Patrick Willis or you know,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, and he flew the ball over the water
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Speaker 1: on whole six. It felt like it flew seven hundred
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Speaker 1: yards and he still made park because it actually was
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Speaker 1: a bad angle to try to get up and down.
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Speaker 1: It was funny, but that was an all time when
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Speaker 1: he put his arms up. That to me will be
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Speaker 1: the post Arnold most important moment. But when you look
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Speaker 1: at the you know, the the vibe for this course,
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Speaker 1: I think it's diminished greatly. So as an early betting
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Speaker 1: take would be, I would bet on this course kind
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Speaker 1: of to get thrown to the way, thrown to the
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Speaker 1: wolves a little bit and potentially become as time goes on,
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Speaker 1: if they go tier systems, a second tier event. Now
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Speaker 1: the top guys are playing this week, and Scotty got
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Speaker 1: one of his first wins on the PGA Tour here.
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Speaker 1: I think he had won at Waste Management in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two, and either a week or two later he
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Speaker 1: won here, so it might be a second career win.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four he won. In twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: he finished T four. Last year he probably played like
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Speaker 1: crap shot eleventh. Remember he was coming back from the
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Speaker 1: Ravioli incident. You know, at plus three twenty five, Scottie
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Speaker 1: Scheffler is like an even par round on a Thursday
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Speaker 1: from already having like five wins. So to me, I
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Speaker 1: don't see how you do not bet on Scottie Scheffler
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Speaker 1: this week, he's had success. He clearly knows going in,
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Speaker 1: I just have to keep the train on the tracks
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Speaker 1: on Thursday, I don't need to shoot five under. Can
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Speaker 1: I just shoot even park? Can I shoot one under?
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Speaker 1: Can I just be in twentieth place? I mean consistently
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Speaker 1: over the last several weeks. You gotta scroll way down
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Speaker 1: the leader board on you know, the PGA website or
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Speaker 1: ESPN dot com to find where Scotty Scheffler is. He
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Speaker 1: did not play last week. Obviously the cognizant I would
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Speaker 1: imagine a refreshed guy ready to roll, and to me,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hammer him a plus three twenty five. Another
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Speaker 1: guy who easily could have won last year was calling Morekawa,
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Speaker 1: and you know, he showed serious signs of life at
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Speaker 1: Pebble obviously one. But to me, it wasn't just winning
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Speaker 1: because he was kind of hit or miss on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: It was like, okay, he still got it when he
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Speaker 1: shot ten under on Saturday. I do wonder if kind
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Speaker 1: of telling everybody after he wins, you can see the
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Speaker 1: almost like the weight. You know, let's face it, Morikawa
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Speaker 1: is supposed to be one of our horses right now,
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Speaker 1: there's you know, when you separate the I look at
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Speaker 1: it through the lens of the Ryder Cup and we
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Speaker 1: could even throw like a Hoodci on the Ryder Cup crew.
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Speaker 1: We have the elite international guys. When it comes to us,
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Speaker 1: we have our Tom Brady, our Patrick Mahomes, our Lebron James,
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Speaker 1: and that's Scottie Scheffler, and then we need three or
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Speaker 1: four guys to immediately draft off him. You could argue
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Speaker 1: it's Bryson too a little bit, but you know, on
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Speaker 1: live it's harder to keep up with. I think then,
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Speaker 1: you know, Colin in theory should be in the in
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Speaker 1: the crew of right there with Xander as being one
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Speaker 1: of our best players. He's not as long as some
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Speaker 1: of these guys, but he's more than long enough, and
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Speaker 1: he should be an elite iron player, and his talent
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Speaker 1: is immense. Like I think, if he can just not
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Speaker 1: get injured, like he's probably a twenty time PGA Tour winner.
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Speaker 1: He already has two majors. A little weird, I mean,
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Speaker 1: one of them had no fans, But like I think
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Speaker 1: you would bet on Colin Morikawa over the next ten
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Speaker 1: years winning another major. Right, I definitely think it's possible
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Speaker 1: for him to win at Augusta. He was right in
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Speaker 1: the mix a couple of years ago, and I think
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Speaker 1: when you are you could argue it was the first
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Speaker 1: time he truly kind of you know, I know he
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Speaker 1: struggled with putting, but like, is this got a good
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Speaker 1: player that There was a lot of talk last year
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Speaker 1: of like Kegan, why are you putt him on the
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Speaker 1: Ryder Cup. I was one of those guys I would
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Speaker 1: not take Colin Morikawa on the Ryder Cup. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: because of Colin Moricowa's resume. His resume is a lock
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Speaker 1: Rder Cup guy every two years, but the way he
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Speaker 1: was playing and trending is like this does not look good,
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Speaker 1: especially going up against They were on fire, right from
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Speaker 1: Rory who had an incredible year, to Fleetwood who had
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Speaker 1: just won the Tour Championship, to Rosie who had been
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Speaker 1: in the mix at the Masters, who almost, I mean
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Speaker 1: fuck could have won the Masters. Shane Lowry to. I mean,
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Speaker 1: their team was stacked and that's why they kicked our ass.
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Speaker 1: But they should not kick our ass if guys like
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Speaker 1: him and Xander are playing at a high level, because no,
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Speaker 1: they're never going to be Tiger or phil or Scottie Scheffler.
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Speaker 1: But they can be in that next year and make
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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars and be one of our
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Speaker 1: top players. So to me, you can get Morikawa to
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Speaker 1: finish top ten here at two to one. This is
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Speaker 1: all on hard rock bet. In my last a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a sleeper is Southern guy Keith Mitchell, Kashmir Keith.
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Speaker 1: You can get him minus one oh five to top thirty.
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Speaker 1: And I think this course it's not the most fun watch.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the rough is always brutal. You gotta hit
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Speaker 1: the fairway. Well, what do more cow and Keith Mitchell
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Speaker 1: do a lot pretty accurate off the tee. So now
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Speaker 1: does Keith Mitchell have like win potential? Probably not? Right?
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Speaker 1: Do What do I think Keith Mitchell's gonna win this week?
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Speaker 1: I do not. Do I think that he could top twenty?
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Speaker 1: I do so to me, Keith Mitchell is a guy
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Speaker 1: that I like a lot. So I think Scotty is
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Speaker 1: the only the guy of the favorites that I would
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable on, which is crazy because he's plus three
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Speaker 1: twenty five. And the one thing you know when you
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Speaker 1: bet Scotty is even if it gets off to a
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Speaker 1: Let's go to last week. I think one thing that
12:44
Speaker 1: makes golf or historically has a lot different than other
12:48
Speaker 1: sports is like when you lose twenty eight to three
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Speaker 1: right in the Super Bowl, as the Falcons did, It's
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Speaker 1: not one guy's fault. Everyone starts imploding right, Everyone gets tight,
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Speaker 1: the coaches, the players stopped making plays. They're disastrous plays.
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Speaker 1: Guys slip right. If you're the Yankees and you're up
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Speaker 1: three nothing against the red sox. It takes a team
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Speaker 1: effort for you to blow that. So like you lose
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Speaker 1: as a group, you know in tennis, but specifically golf,
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Speaker 1: because I would say more people casually probably have probably
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Speaker 1: swung a golf club than swung a tennis racket. You're
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Speaker 1: kind of just out there by yourself and we all know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care what your handicap is, whether
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Speaker 1: you're a twenty or whether you're the fakes three in
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Speaker 1: the history of golf, like me, because when you have
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Speaker 1: a child. I played a couple weeks ago for the
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Speaker 1: first time. I was playing some of the best golf
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Speaker 1: of my life, right before Jack was born. I plan
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Speaker 1: out of TPC a couple weeks before the tournament a
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Speaker 1: couple easy seventy five seventy sixes. And this is like
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Speaker 1: the not quite the tips I typically play, where the
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Speaker 1: guys play, but right around the tournament they kind of
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Speaker 1: x that out. It's a little up, it's not quite
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Speaker 1: as hard, but still you shoot seventy five seventy six
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Speaker 1: out there from their version of the blacks before the tournament.
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Speaker 1: Like that's I was playing good golf, and I played
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Speaker 1: the other day and I shot eighty nine, so it
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Speaker 1: can leave you fast. But I think we all can
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Speaker 1: relate to whether you're shooting eighty nine ninety one hundred
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Speaker 1: or whether you're shooting seventy is we've all been out
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Speaker 1: there cruising along, maybe get off to a hot start
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Speaker 1: like par or par or par birdie, Bogie par birdie.
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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I'm one under after nine, like
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Speaker 1: could this be? Could this be the round of my life?
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Speaker 1: Or just around where you're like, you know, if you're
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Speaker 1: shooting ninety normally, you're like, I'm on whole eleven and
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Speaker 1: if I just kind of keep this going, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: shoot like eighty one. And then all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: you make a bad swing and that ball goes left
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Speaker 1: or right, and you immediately forget everything you've done, all
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Speaker 1: those swings, all those good holes, all that money you're
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Speaker 1: taking off your buddies disappears like that. Your confidence is gone.
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Speaker 1: And to me it used to happen. I started playing
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Speaker 1: golf in the nineties. Golf was hard. You know why,
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Speaker 1: the equipment sucked? Hitting the fairway, hitting the ball far,
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Speaker 1: hitting the ball straight was extremely difficult. In nineteen ninety five,
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Speaker 1: Do you know what is not difficult. Someone like me
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Speaker 1: so that I practiced a lot could get down to
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Speaker 1: a two or three without practicing that much because I
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Speaker 1: got modern technology in clubs and golf balls doesn't spin
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Speaker 1: as much. Even I play a cut, it doesn't unless
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Speaker 1: I hit make an awful swing. I should just play
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Speaker 1: a baby cut. Well, when I was playing, by the
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Speaker 1: time I got to high school in like two o three,
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Speaker 1: the technology it started to improve, but definitely when I
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Speaker 1: was in junior high I couldn't break ninety to save
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Speaker 1: my life. It was really really difficult. So when you
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Speaker 1: throw back to I would imagine people that watch golf
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Speaker 1: in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties. This goes to
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Speaker 1: Greg Norman at the Masters in nine ninety six. You
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Speaker 1: could truly have implosions because the ball went all over
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Speaker 1: the place. And now when you lose your confidence, most
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Speaker 1: of these guys it's like, hey, I just got to
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Speaker 1: get a bogie here, a bogie in the next three
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Speaker 1: holes to win the tournament. Even if those guys had
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Speaker 1: lost their swing, with the modern technology, to me, they
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Speaker 1: could choke down that they could play a fairway finer.
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Speaker 1: They could figure it out. Back then you were fucked
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Speaker 1: and to me, for the first time in a long time,
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Speaker 1: you watched a high end player. I'm this guy that's
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Speaker 1: won a major. This is one of a very important
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Speaker 1: player in the Ryder Cup. He even mentioned this in
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Speaker 1: his post round comments after losing the tournament that like,
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Speaker 1: I looked at my caddy and I said, how could
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Speaker 1: I have done so well in Long Island at the
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Speaker 1: Ryder Cup with all the chaos going around, basically being
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Speaker 1: Rory's bodyguard and birdying holes and then implode when I
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Speaker 1: had a three or four shot lead with four or
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Speaker 1: five holes to go. I think I think it was
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Speaker 1: four holes to go, might have been three actually sixteen
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Speaker 1: seventeen pumps in the water twice, and I thought it
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Speaker 1: was really humanizing and to me, the one thing we've
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Speaker 1: lost with the influx of just how good technology is
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Speaker 1: and how good these balls are, which benefit us casual guys,
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Speaker 1: Like if you're a fifteen and you have old clubs,
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Speaker 1: like you could probably get down to a single digit
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Speaker 1: if you just upgrade your clubs and play a better
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Speaker 1: golf ball. Anyone knows if you're like a five or six,
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Speaker 1: and you're not that far away from being a one
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Speaker 1: or two, you know, a couple lessons, little practice, and
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Speaker 1: that that was not the case thirty years ago. It
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Speaker 1: just wasn't and that's why we just don't get these
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Speaker 1: moments anymore. Of Shane Lowry pumping balls into the water
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Speaker 1: like not even close, never had a chance. It wasn't like, God,
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Speaker 1: that was a shitty bounce off of rock. It was
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Speaker 1: literally right at the water both times. Couldn't have been
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Speaker 1: a worse swing, and I thought it was like the
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Speaker 1: most relatable I wanted Shane lower I was rooting for
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Speaker 1: the guy to win, but it just felt like golf
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Speaker 1: needs more of these moments. And one thing more, Cowell
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Speaker 1: got crushed last year when he started avoiding the press.
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Speaker 1: I think it was after Bayhill when he blew it
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Speaker 1: and he pushed back. It might have been another term
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Speaker 1: I don't even remember. He pushed back multiple times like
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Speaker 1: I don't owe you anything, and it's like that part
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Speaker 1: of this business is entertainment, and part of entertaining when
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Speaker 1: you're in sports, are humanizing yourself to the consumer. And
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Speaker 1: Shane Lowry, because I thought the moment he imploded, he
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Speaker 1: didn't just lose the tournament. He lost by multiple shots
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Speaker 1: at one point in time, with like four holes left.
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Speaker 1: He was nineteen hunder and the guy behind him was
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Speaker 1: fifteen hunderd. I saw the percentages win percentage ninety five percent.
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Speaker 1: I would say a player of his caliber at a
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Speaker 1: place in which he's excelled, felt like a ninety nine
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Speaker 1: point nine percent. There's obviously human error, it's golf, and
18:52
Speaker 1: that's what happened. But I think he wins that tournament,
18:55
Speaker 1: especially the way he was playing. He was dominating on Sunday,
18:59
Speaker 1: just like a lot of US casuals have had great
19:01
Speaker 1: runs and then it's over like that and you can't
19:04
Speaker 1: get it back. And I just thought it was riveting television.
19:08
Speaker 1: And I thought him after going on camera and doing
19:12
Speaker 1: an interview, which a lot of guys skip lately, you know,
19:16
Speaker 1: Rory did this, started it with Bryce in a couple
19:18
Speaker 1: of years ago at the US Open. Mari Cowam made
19:20
Speaker 1: a big deal with this, and I remember some of
19:23
Speaker 1: the older guys rock O Media were, you know, Padrick Harrington,
19:27
Speaker 1: We're kind of pound on the table like this is
19:30
Speaker 1: you can't do this. We're in the business here like that.
19:33
Speaker 1: That private jet you fly in, that mansion you live
19:36
Speaker 1: in is because of the consumer. You think it's because
19:40
Speaker 1: of the golf. There are a lot of great golfers
19:42
Speaker 1: all over you know, the world. No one pays to
19:45
Speaker 1: watch them play golf on TV. Now you could argue
19:47
Speaker 1: you're better than them, but this money comes from the
19:50
Speaker 1: sponsors because we watch right Where do you think, where
19:56
Speaker 1: does Steph Curry and Lebron's money come from the television contracts?
19:59
Speaker 1: Where do all the NFL money come the television contracts?
20:01
Speaker 1: So to be a great reality television show like you
20:06
Speaker 1: saying and getting on camera to go like, I don't
20:08
Speaker 1: know what happened. I've never lost it like that and
20:11
Speaker 1: what hurts me the most. And I think this resonated
20:13
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, whether you have a kid
20:15
Speaker 1: or not. I thought, for the first time, my four
20:17
Speaker 1: year old daughter was going to see me win and
20:19
Speaker 1: run out on the green, and how could he not
20:21
Speaker 1: think that? What a cool moment that is when any
20:25
Speaker 1: guy wins on the PGA Tour and their young kid
20:27
Speaker 1: with their wife, you know, or or parents running behind them.
20:31
Speaker 1: You know, get that, hug. It's one of the more
20:33
Speaker 1: genuine moments in sports. And I commend Shane Lowry for
20:38
Speaker 1: doing that because you know, I mean, let's face it,
20:40
Speaker 1: his best friend who's been great to the media, and
20:43
Speaker 1: Brandle defended him last year when he was kind of
20:45
Speaker 1: getting crushed. It's like, yeah, he made a mistake at
20:48
Speaker 1: the US Open, But it's like I've said this forever
20:51
Speaker 1: and roll app coming from the NFL, I would mandate
20:55
Speaker 1: if you are in the top ten, you know, whether
20:58
Speaker 1: you win or whether you're seven, If the media wants
21:01
Speaker 1: to talk to you, you should talk. Because that's how the
21:03
Speaker 1: NFL works. Quarterback talks after every game, coach talks after
21:06
Speaker 1: every game. Mandated players talk after every game and are
21:09
Speaker 1: mandated once throughout the week. Like that's the business we're in.
21:12
Speaker 1: I was thinking this at the Combine, like part of
21:14
Speaker 1: the reason the NFL is so big, it's the NFL Combine,
21:17
Speaker 1: and there is just digital show after digital show after
21:20
Speaker 1: digital show. I mean radios fuck now, but these digital
21:23
Speaker 1: shows and all these it's like the team website pumping
21:25
Speaker 1: out the contents. The consumer wants to see that. And
21:29
Speaker 1: I think Shane deserves a lot of credit because it
21:32
Speaker 1: would have been an easy one. I actually think some
21:33
Speaker 1: people might have defended him. It's like or defended him
21:36
Speaker 1: right that, Yeah, I get it. I might not have
21:39
Speaker 1: talked either, So props to him, and props to just
21:43
Speaker 1: an all time implosion. I mean, I listen, I don't
21:46
Speaker 1: want to see guys suffer. But you could argue the
21:51
Speaker 1: most entertaining thing in all of golf beside like great golf,
21:57
Speaker 1: right Scotti Scheffler just kicking someone's eat as Rory McElroy
22:01
Speaker 1: winning the Masters, or Bryce and d Chambeau, beside like
22:03
Speaker 1: the great players winning big tournaments. On just random tournaments
22:07
Speaker 1: like this, are guys imploding like you just it's riveting.
22:12
Speaker 1: You are glued to your couch watching this guy hit
22:16
Speaker 1: balls into the water that you go, I think I
22:19
Speaker 1: might have been able to hit the green there. Or
22:20
Speaker 1: it's like Shane, why don't you aim way left? And
22:23
Speaker 1: it's golf man. Okay, last but not least. Riviera a
22:26
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago, we haven't talked about. I don't even care.
22:30
Speaker 1: It rained. The tournament wasn't as good. It's been well
22:33
Speaker 1: documented in golf circles. It sucks. And Tiger that talked
22:36
Speaker 1: that week had had discussed that, like, yeah, we're gonna
22:41
Speaker 1: think long and hard because clearly they're gonna cut tournaments,
22:44
Speaker 1: They're gonna make elevated events at these big venues, and
22:48
Speaker 1: like they had a rainstorm last or a couple of
22:50
Speaker 1: weeks ago in Los Angeles, right when I was flying
22:52
Speaker 1: back from Coward, it started to pour and Tiger said
22:57
Speaker 1: it pretty well, there are certain months of the year
23:00
Speaker 1: you almost one hundred percent. No, this isn't even an option.
23:04
Speaker 1: And one thing that has floated out there, I saw
23:06
Speaker 1: Taylor Zarzer, who for those of you guys that watch
23:09
Speaker 1: the Golf Channel, he's on the Golf Channel. He's the
23:10
Speaker 1: Titans play by play guy. I was just, you know,
23:14
Speaker 1: between introducing myself to coaches and gms, I'm like, I
23:16
Speaker 1: want to talk to Taylor Zarser. So I went up
23:18
Speaker 1: and introduced myself. We started talking golf because I saw
23:21
Speaker 1: this cliff of him talking that he remembered the last
23:24
Speaker 1: time Anthony Kim won on the PGA Tour. He was
23:26
Speaker 1: interviewing him. So he loves golf. I do too, So
23:29
Speaker 1: we got along immediately. And one thing Taylor said was,
23:32
Speaker 1: and these rumors have been out there, they're trying to
23:35
Speaker 1: figure out, like is the waste management which is going
23:38
Speaker 1: to be the opening for the PGA Tour that is
23:41
Speaker 1: the week they are going to open, and the Thunderbirds,
23:44
Speaker 1: which are the big, you know, kind of charity group
23:47
Speaker 1: that run the tournament are kind of adamant that they
23:50
Speaker 1: want to keep it super Bowl week, and I would
23:54
Speaker 1: push back against that. I would make it the week
23:56
Speaker 1: after Super Bowl. The one thing golf has going for
23:59
Speaker 1: it is beside football, everything is open. Baseball, basketball, nothing
24:07
Speaker 1: and I mean nothing has the market corner. That's one
24:09
Speaker 1: thing Roger realized years back that I am so much
24:13
Speaker 1: bigger than all these motherfuckers. I don't give a shit. Christmas,
24:18
Speaker 1: I want it, Black Friday, I want it. Then they
24:21
Speaker 1: play games on Martin Luther King Day, which notorious. They
24:24
Speaker 1: didn't give it. They don't care at all. They go,
24:26
Speaker 1: We're way bigger, big bang takes a little bank sit
24:28
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and to me, golf and obviously it's
24:34
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing it to basketball or baseball as a sport.
24:37
Speaker 1: Those sports are bigger in terms of the amount of
24:40
Speaker 1: people that play. And historically, if you put on a
24:44
Speaker 1: big basketball game or a big baseball game, more people
24:46
Speaker 1: are gonna watch unless you have a tiger like figure. Right.
24:51
Speaker 1: But I think in this day and age, with everything
24:53
Speaker 1: so splintered, that basically right after the Super Bowl till
24:58
Speaker 1: training camp starts is complete, open real estate. Everything is
25:03
Speaker 1: for the taking, and you can get primetime events. Riv
25:09
Speaker 1: Pebble Beach Tory. I got no problems. You can't do
25:13
Speaker 1: the waste management in July or August. Here it's one
25:16
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen degrees. It would be miserable. You can
25:18
Speaker 1: catch your boy out there swinging it around, but you
25:20
Speaker 1: could not have a PGA event. So I'm all for starting.
25:24
Speaker 1: I would mandate if I'm rollapp like, we're starting this
25:26
Speaker 1: the week after super Bowl because this notion like there's
25:30
Speaker 1: a comdown or whatever. What do you watch after super Bowl?
25:34
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously what, I've watched a couple of these
25:37
Speaker 1: primetime NBA games over the last couple of weeks. I
25:40
Speaker 1: tried to watch unless sometimes guys are hurt. They're a
25:42
Speaker 1: fucking horrendous product. I watched the Steph Curry list Warriors
25:46
Speaker 1: against the Lakers the other night. I lasted five minutes.
25:48
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not giving my time to this. And
25:52
Speaker 1: one thing that we've seen in the NBA is a
25:53
Speaker 1: lot of stars don't play. So when you get these
25:56
Speaker 1: games on the weekend, as we move forward, like you
25:59
Speaker 1: can go total toe with them and baseball inventory is
26:01
Speaker 1: kind of a unique sport, right because people don't really
26:05
Speaker 1: consume the regular season that much. So I think if
26:08
Speaker 1: your roll app and with Tiger, you move the West
26:13
Speaker 1: Coast swing to the middle of the summer because you
26:16
Speaker 1: know the weather's good, especially at Tory and Pebble Beach
26:19
Speaker 1: even Riff, Like, you're not talking one hundred degrees in
26:22
Speaker 1: any of these places. And then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday
26:25
Speaker 1: you get primetime viewing on the East Coast. To me,
26:28
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. But the number one thing I
26:30
Speaker 1: would do is I would make waste management the week
26:33
Speaker 1: after Super Bowl. I would not go head to head
26:35
Speaker 1: with Super Bowl because I just think you get lost
26:37
Speaker 1: in the shuffle. I really do. And it's kind of
26:40
Speaker 1: tough because next year the Super bowls I think Valentine's
26:44
Speaker 1: Day the fourteenth, go the next week, why not? Like what?
26:49
Speaker 1: So basically they get off, you know, November to the
26:51
Speaker 1: middle of February, and then golf comes back and you
26:54
Speaker 1: feel it. What does football have going for it? We
26:56
Speaker 1: don't get to watch a game till after the Super Bowl.
26:59
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even count the preseason anymore till
27:01
Speaker 1: like the beginning of September, and it builds up an appetite,
27:05
Speaker 1: it builds up the demand. So to me after the
27:10
Speaker 1: Super Bowl on waste management and move the West Coast
27:13
Speaker 1: venues and one thing that will be interesting. Golf's different
27:17
Speaker 1: than football, but in role apps former role doing Thursday
27:21
Speaker 1: Night football, which he was a big part of, No
27:24
Speaker 1: one cares in the NFL. If you played New York
27:27
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, maybe your next Thursday Night game is
27:29
Speaker 1: in Dallas and you're the forty nine ers, so you're
27:31
Speaker 1: just traveling. You know, in golf, they've always done the
27:34
Speaker 1: swings right, the West Coast Swing, the Florida Swing, the
27:37
Speaker 1: kind of the Texas area. They try to keep you
27:39
Speaker 1: in the They play Harbor Town right after Augusta. They
27:43
Speaker 1: try to keep you in the general area. I wonder
27:46
Speaker 1: if he goes, hey, we're paying so much money and
27:48
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this tiered system. I don't give a
27:50
Speaker 1: shit about regions, because he's already said we're gonna go
27:52
Speaker 1: to bigger markets. So maybe one week we're at Torrey Pines,
27:56
Speaker 1: the next week we're at Chicago. The next week we're
27:58
Speaker 1: in New York City. The following week we're in Dallas,
28:01
Speaker 1: then we're back at you know RIV. I would not
28:05
Speaker 1: put that past him at all. He's like, all you
28:07
Speaker 1: guys are flying private jets anyway, I see in your
28:09
Speaker 1: towels net jets, Like none of you guys are seeing
28:13
Speaker 1: Middlecoff in the back of the bird on his way
28:16
Speaker 1: back from Indianapolis on three hours sleep, sitting next to
28:18
Speaker 1: a guy that tried to fight the guy before him,
28:21
Speaker 1: and stop for a split second, can I jump out
28:23
Speaker 1: of this plane. That's not how you guys are living.
28:25
Speaker 1: You guys are living like freaking royalty, like kings. So yeah,
28:30
Speaker 1: if you've got to hop on the PJ and go
28:32
Speaker 1: from you know, San Francisco, you play Olympic Club one week.
28:35
Speaker 1: Next week we're in Chicago, buckle up because this is
28:39
Speaker 1: where the money's gonna come from. So I would expect
28:42
Speaker 1: role app to mix things up dramatically, and I would
28:47
Speaker 1: recommend that because these guys have no margin to complain anymore. Now,
28:51
Speaker 1: part of the difference is is when the team travels
28:53
Speaker 1: in pro sports basketball, football, team pays for it. Obviously
28:58
Speaker 1: it's a golfer. These guys flying pres it, they're technically
29:01
Speaker 1: paying for it. Kind of, I mean, some of them
29:03
Speaker 1: have deals, but still, I mean I the number one
29:06
Speaker 1: thing I would do is I would rip up the
29:08
Speaker 1: calendar and I would not be beholden too arias like
29:13
Speaker 1: just because we're in California, we got to stay here
29:15
Speaker 1: for three weeks. You can leave at the moment's notice.
29:18
Speaker 1: And obviously California definitely move later. You know, there have
29:22
Speaker 1: been talks about making Pebble a playoff event, maybe even
29:26
Speaker 1: the final event. I think, make Pebble and riv and
29:31
Speaker 1: Tory when you can go prime time, make them events
29:34
Speaker 1: where like, I wouldn't want it to be the final event.
29:37
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to only watch thirty people on the
29:39
Speaker 1: Tour Championship. I would rather watch even if it's this
29:43
Speaker 1: new age cut down field. I'd rather watch a full field,
29:46
Speaker 1: even if there is no cut so to me part
29:49
Speaker 1: of the West Coast, you know, kind of what they
29:52
Speaker 1: bring to the table, Tory and Pebble are the are
29:55
Speaker 1: the ocean views and someone that spent a couple of
29:58
Speaker 1: years in Philadelphia that puts smiles on people's faces, whether
30:02
Speaker 1: it's the summer or the winter. When you just turn
30:04
Speaker 1: on the TV at night in it's dark outside and
30:06
Speaker 1: you see the ocean, the Pacific Ocean, even though it's sneaky,
30:08
Speaker 1: freezing cold and they're great white sharks in there. It
30:11
Speaker 1: does look cool on television and it never gets old.
30:13
Speaker 1: It never gets old, So I'm excited to watch. I
30:17
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have a huge rollout next week at
30:20
Speaker 1: the tour with roll app saying some of this stuff
30:24
Speaker 1: and the tier thing. I heard someone the guys that
30:26
Speaker 1: know laying up said this. They're going to roll this out.
30:31
Speaker 1: They're gonna be how many people are at the Players
30:33
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty like some of those guys, and
30:35
Speaker 1: Amon Lynch wrote a piece that this new change is
30:39
Speaker 1: gonna be great for the good players. If you're Colin Morrikowell,
30:41
Speaker 1: if you're Scottie Scheffler, if you're Shane Lowry, if you're
30:44
Speaker 1: Rory McElroy, if you're Jordan Spieth, you're on scholarship. If
30:49
Speaker 1: you're those you know, the Joel Damon types, you're gonna
30:52
Speaker 1: be on a second tier. So to me, what I
30:54
Speaker 1: envision is the PGA Tour like the Champions League essentially,
30:59
Speaker 1: then the the minor leagues of that group, and then
31:02
Speaker 1: essentially the corn Ferry Tour. So basically you're getting relegated
31:06
Speaker 1: to the second tour, trying to make your way to
31:09
Speaker 1: the top, which is kind of how soccer works, right,
31:12
Speaker 1: you know, the forty nine ers own leads. They've gone
31:14
Speaker 1: back and forth between the Champions League. You shouldn't just
31:17
Speaker 1: be on scholarship on the PGA Tour because you know,
31:20
Speaker 1: got a tour card for a couple of years, and
31:22
Speaker 1: now these guys can finagle it so easily. I mean,
31:25
Speaker 1: I have a buddy text me random events, good events
31:30
Speaker 1: of like, who are some of these guys and they
31:33
Speaker 1: get bitter, But the reality is they simply do not
31:36
Speaker 1: matter to the money. I mean, let's be real, there's
31:39
Speaker 1: a short list of guys that matter to the money generation.
31:43
Speaker 1: None of these guys. I mean the amount of guys
31:45
Speaker 1: that got pretty rich into the two thousands beside Tiger,
31:50
Speaker 1: how many guys truly mattered phil Ernie VJ. I mean,
31:53
Speaker 1: it wasn't that long of a list. It wasn't that
31:56
Speaker 1: long of a list. So that's where I think the
31:59
Speaker 1: health of role app coming into this of not giving
32:02
Speaker 1: many you know whats, and it can kind of come
32:04
Speaker 1: in like, yea, I'm gonna piss some people off. Guess
32:06
Speaker 1: who pissed a lot of people off constantly. Roger Goodell,
32:09
Speaker 1: the league office, it's kind of used to it. It's
32:11
Speaker 1: kind of the environment he's been int you know. Jay
32:13
Speaker 1: Monahan tried to make everyone friends and part of it.
32:16
Speaker 1: He just tried to keep the cash cow moving in
32:19
Speaker 1: the same direction because everyone was getting rich. He was
32:22
Speaker 1: flying on pj's. A CFO that Roll Aft just forced
32:25
Speaker 1: to retire at fifty four, was flying on pj's. They
32:27
Speaker 1: were all living like Kinks members in all these courses.
32:30
Speaker 1: That is not how Goodell thought he was getting rich.
32:33
Speaker 1: But how will we get richer? How do we do more?
32:36
Speaker 1: How do we grow? That's not really what the PJ
32:39
Speaker 1: tourner J Monahan thought. It was like, how do we
32:41
Speaker 1: just maintain the sponsors, keep the money coming in? And
32:45
Speaker 1: when you get someone from the NFL, and I've been
32:46
Speaker 1: saying this for a while, it's just doggy dog cutthroat
32:51
Speaker 1: from the league office to the coaches to the gms,
32:55
Speaker 1: it's fucking crazy and golf doesn't really have a lot
32:58
Speaker 1: of that. You know, who would have thrived in the
33:00
Speaker 1: NFL Tiger Woods, I mean he would have thrived in
33:03
Speaker 1: that environment, Phil would have thrived. Speef Scottie, a lot
33:09
Speaker 1: of the mid tier guys like I'm in. I'm good.
33:12
Speaker 1: No you're not. Because in the NFL as a player,
33:14
Speaker 1: as a coach, like one year could be great, next
33:16
Speaker 1: year you get fired. Sean Payton fired like four guys.
33:20
Speaker 1: They were broken ankle away from being in the super Bowl.
33:24
Speaker 1: It's like they hosted the AFC Championship game. He fired
33:27
Speaker 1: countless guys in his offensive staff. It's not even that
33:30
Speaker 1: abnormal people like ah, Sean Payton, be and John Payton.
33:33
Speaker 1: That's not very normal in the PGA tour, you know,
33:36
Speaker 1: I mean most people up until this new age of players,
33:40
Speaker 1: Like most guys had the same caddy for a long time.
33:43
Speaker 1: How long did Tiger f Stevie Williams or Phil have bones?
33:47
Speaker 1: Felt like twenty plus years. If it wouldn't have been
33:50
Speaker 1: for Tiger getting caught with his phone with Elin, you know,
33:54
Speaker 1: Stevie probably would have been his caddy for the foreseeable future.
34:00
Speaker 1: So I'm excited next week to kind of find out
34:02
Speaker 1: as stuff leaks, like what are we talking about now?
34:05
Speaker 1: Because I think part of now with roll apps, like
34:07
Speaker 1: put your stamp on this motherfucker. Let's let's let's let's
34:12
Speaker 1: take a fucking swing because basketball and baseball. This ain't
34:15
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Barry Bonds. It is wide open for
34:19
Speaker 1: the taking, and you could argue everything beside football falls
34:24
Speaker 1: under the category of like modern day niche. You know,
34:27
Speaker 1: football is the one thing that breaks, you know, breaks through.
34:32
Speaker 1: Not sure what else does. The volume