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Passing Faith to the Next Generation with Beth Hendrick & Why Repentance Matters with Janet Parshall · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
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  S2: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way. Never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew. Boy, these intrasquad scrimmage in the NFL. I
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  S1: feel like that's the preseason we ought to be seeing.
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  S3: That is, uh, actually what a lot of the coaches say, uh,
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  S3: I mean, the, the starters. I'm gonna take the Chicago Bears,
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  S3: for example, here. They are not expected to play a
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  S3: lot of their starters in the preseason game because they
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  S3: had a, you know, a joint practice with the Cincinnati
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  S3: Bengals yesterday. And so those joint practices are what you
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  S3: got to be watching.
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  S1: Well, and what's happening is fights are breaking out left
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  S1: and right. So all hockey fans are probably like, is
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  S1: there any video of that?
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  S3: I'm sure there's some.
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  S1: Oh man, there's skirmishes going all over the place.
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  S3: Oh yeah.
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  S1: And teams are getting fined a half million dollars for skirmishes.
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  S3: On NFL started to crack down. Well, there was one
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  S3: a couple of years ago with the Rams, the LA
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  S3: Rams and the Cincinnati Bengals where, uh, there were £300
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  S3: guys taking off their helmets and swinging them at each other. Uh,
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  S3: because they, they take it pretty seriously. They don't like,
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  S3: you know, getting hurt in practice. And, and so they
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  S3: fight each other and then you get hurt in practice
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  S3: because of that.
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  S5: Wow.
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  S1: What do you think, Kelly?
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  S5: I think, uh, this is why I like basketball.
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  S3: This is why I like football.
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  S1: I don't know, you can go on a basketball court
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  S1: in a hockey game. Can break out as well.
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  S2: Well, it's funny because basketball players like if you watch
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  S2: much of the NBA a lot of times, like guys will,
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  S2: they'll get in each other's faces and it's like super dramatic.
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  S2: But most of them don't really want to fight and
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  S2: you can see that. So it's like.
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  S1: Well, there's a big fight involved.
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  S2: Oh, there's lots of fines involved. So you'll, you'll see
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  S2: the ones who like, just want to, you know, they
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  S2: have to have the appropriate show of machoism, you know,
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  S2: because somebody did whatever. Yeah. But very, it's kind of
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  S2: rare that they actually want to fight.
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  S3: Unless you're Draymond Green from the Golden State Warriors.
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  S2: But I think.
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  S6: Oh come on. I think even.
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  S2: He's more of an instigator than anything else.
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  S3: Oh 100%.
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  S1: He's a he's a needler. I can see him in
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  S1: fifth grade. He'd have been a problem. Boy you know that.
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  S1: Imagine Draymond Green in fifth grade. Yeah. He was sorry.
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  S1: We're getting into the weeds.
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  S3: Wasn't a.
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  S1: Violent. My big idea was my goodness. It's all pristine
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  S1: on preseason games, but these Inter-squad scrimmages are brouhahas. Man,
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  S1: he really is something else. They are oh so funny, man. Oh, guys,
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  S1: I gotta tell you, we are gonna have a great
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  S1: Freedom Friday. Already are. But I wanted to stop and
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  S1: go back because I want to hit some high points. That's.
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  S1: I think we've got some content from time to time
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  S1: around here. That's pretty amazing. Just think about yesterday, uh,
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  S1: we had stories come in kind of our theme was
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  S1: come and see comes right out of John one through
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  S1: four actually. And we just asked people to call in
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  S1: who had seen the power of God through an invitation.
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  S1: They had been impacted. Someone invited them. Oh my goodness,
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  S1: how beautiful was that? I mean, it was a half
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  S1: hour that was like smoke on the water.
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  S2: It really was. I mean, hearing the stories, both of
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  S2: the invited and the inviter. And it's it's interesting how
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  S2: there's an unexpected element to a lot of these stories.
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  S2: Like somebody wasn't expected to be invited or somebody wasn't
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  S2: expecting the person they invited to actually go.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S2: And then so often something special happens when, when we
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  S2: just invite people in to experience something.
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  S1: Yeah. And to have Derek walk in and talk about
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  S1: UFOs and God.
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  S3: Mhm.
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  S1: How beautiful to have him in.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S2: That's been a real highlight from this week for sure.
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  S1: Ooh. And then you go back a little bit further
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  S1: and you got J. Warner Wallace. And we had a
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  S1: discussion with him around the gospel and some of the
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  S1: greatest evidences. And he peeled back a layer of the
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  S1: uniqueness of humility to biblical. Wow. That was epic. And,
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  S1: and wow, that was epic. And then you go back
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  S1: a little bit further. And we had drew Dickens created
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  S1: this cool platform that does what Ali.
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  S2: Well, that helps you practice having conversations. It uses an AI,
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  S2: AI generated kind of conversation where you can actually pre
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  S2: plug in some parameters around somebody with a different faith.
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  S2: So maybe they're somebody who's curious, maybe they're devout and
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  S2: you can practice what some of the reasonable objections, how
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  S2: a conversation might go so that you're prepared for the
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  S2: real thing.
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  S1: So awesome. And I mean the amount of links that
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  S1: went out. So you might say, oh, great, I missed
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  S1: that one or that one or that one or all
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  S1: of them. This is getting more and more utilized that
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  S1: I'm thrilled about it. But we want to make sure
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  S1: that you've got it in front of you. Now we
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  S1: have a show cast and we just remove songs underwriting
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  S1: and we just crunch it down. We try to grab
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  S1: how many minutes, usually young thunder.
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  S3: Usually 45 minutes to an hour somewhere in between there.
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  S1: Okay. And it's indexed when you go where we're going
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  S1: to tell you to go, which is pretty cool. Right.
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  S3: Yeah. So, you know, hey, I missed this one interview today.
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  S3: I really want to go back and listen to it.
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  S3: And I kind of want to listen to it right away.
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  S3: You don't have to just hit the skip button a
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  S3: million times to try and find it down. In the
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  S3: description of the episode, it's got timestamps on everything that
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  S3: we have in the episode, so that you can go
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  S3: and find the subject you wanted to hear most.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S1: So we've got a link that you're going to get
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  S1: that will get you into the show cast. But even
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  S1: better than that, a lot of people, including my bride
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  S1: and so many others across the country, we've got a
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  S1: lot of calls that come in from places where we
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  S1: don't have a terrestrial stick in the air. So that's
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  S1: indicator one. Somebody's listening either over the internet, sitting at
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  S1: a laptop. But most likely and most often it's on
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  S1: the app. So if you get this link, guys, this
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  S1: is going to be a resource for you. And it's
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  S1: so indexed, you can go back. How far back can
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  S1: you go?
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  S3: I. On our website specifically, you can go back up
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  S3: to a year on most podcasting platforms. It gives you
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  S3: about 120 150 episodes somewhere around there.
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  S1: Good, good. So it's a cool link, isn't it? Alex.
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  S6: It is just text.
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  S2: Show to (800) 555-7898, text show to (800) 555-7898.
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  S1: Yeah, get that app downloaded, guys. And the weather's starting
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  S1: to shift here in Chicago. I don't know about where
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  S1: you are, but it's a little bit. The trend lines
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  S1: are starting to tail off. Have you noticed this that
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  S1: Ali it's starting to change.
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  S3: Bring on the fall.
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  S6: Cooler.
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  S2: And the mornings are starting to get darker.
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  S3: Yeah, I could, I could do without dark mornings, but.
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  S1: Which brings up standard time versus daylight savings, but I digress.
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  S1: We won't even get going on that one.
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  S2: Morning people. Especially early early morning people do not want.
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  S6: No, no.
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  S1: Early morning people don't want daylight savings. They're like, get
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  S1: back to standard and pin it on standard. Uh, but we're,
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  S1: we're really grateful for you helping you take your next
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  S1: step with Jesus. It's freedom Friday. And we've got a
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  S1: question for you. You know, I don't know. You can
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  S1: look almost anywhere in Scripture, but here's a good point
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  S1: to go. First Corinthians chapter 15 verse ten says, but
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  S1: by the grace of God, Paul writes, I am what
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  S1: I am, and just sit there for a second. By
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  S1: the grace of God, I am what I am. What
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  S1: a profoundly accurate, mature, right thing to say biblically, right?
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  S2: Oh, yeah. It's not anything that I've done.
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  S1: And I'm not even going to read on. By the
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  S1: grace of God, I am what I am. Yeah. Wow.
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  S1: The question is, do we really believe that? And sometimes
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  S1: we can get deluded into thinking, yeah, you know, I
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  S1: am that bag of chips and maybe more. We can
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  S1: we can I this no one is immune to this
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  S1: thinking that you started ascribing credit to yourself or something
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  S1: that you did. Now scripture is clear. Every good and
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  S1: perfect gift comes down from the father of lights, and
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  S1: there's no shifting shadow. The windows of heaven were opened
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  S1: and provided for us. Everything we need for life and godliness. Man,
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  S1: do we really believe it? Well, sometimes when you get
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  S1: it pinned down, you do. And so we got a
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  S1: question for you on this Freedom Friday. That's that's really fun.
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  S1: What's the biggest change Jesus has made in your life
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  S1: that you know, you know, all of them are from God.
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  S1: But you know, this one couldn't have been made on
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  S1: your own. Think about that. What's the biggest change Jesus
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  S1: has made in your life that you know you couldn't
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  S1: have made on your own? I'm going to leave it
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  S1: wide open. And boy, if you really bear down and
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  S1: think about this, this will give you some gratitude. This
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  S1: will realign you. This will get you set for the weekend.
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  S1: Why is this question so important? Let's just think about that.
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  S2: I mean, this is this is our testimony, right?
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S2: I mean, this is more than just this is the
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  S2: day I got saved. This this is the he's helping
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  S2: me to this very day.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S1: This this is the question that should supplant. When did
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  S1: you get saved?
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  S3: Mhm.
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  S1: What's the biggest change Jesus has made in your life
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  S1: that you know, you couldn't have made on your own?
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  S1: I want you to give us a call. Light them
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  S1: up right now. Guys, you are the boom crew. You
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  S1: are born again. God has set you free. And you've
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  S1: got a story to tell. Give us a call. 805 557898.
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  S1: Light em up. Give us a call right now 805 557898.
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  S1: It's Freedom Friday in here.
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  S7: It's Carl and crew on Moody radio.
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  S1: It's Carl and crew on this Freedom Friday. Think about
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  S1: this question. What's the biggest change Jesus has made in
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  S1: your life that you know you couldn't have made on
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  S1: your own? 805. Five. Five. 78. 98. Light em up. Boom! Crew.
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  S1: This is your show. 805. Five. 578. 98. Let's go
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  S1: to the phone lines.
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  S2: We've got Angelica calling in this morning from Kissimmee, Florida.
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  S2: What do you say? What's the biggest change Jesus has
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  S2: made for you that you could not have made on
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  S2: your own?
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  S3: Pride.
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  S1: Pride.
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  S8: Pride. pride and show me who I am through his eyes. Oh,
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  S8: I worked for a very powerful woman for 25 years
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  S8: in New York. Made lots of money and I just
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  S8: lived my life through her. And Covid happened, and he
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  S8: brought me to Florida. And I've never been in so
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  S8: much peace.
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  S1: And joy.
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  S8: Praise the Lord.
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  S1: Yeah. We praise God with you. Angelica. That's a great answer.
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  S1: Out of the chute. Because at the end of the day,
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  S1: that's the central figure in all of our lostness, isn't it?
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  S1: Pride just hanging out there, man. Mary. First time caller
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  S1: in Florida. Thanks for holding on. What do you got here, Mary?
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  S9: I was I'm a recovering alcoholic. I was drinking all
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  S9: the time. I was I felt like I didn't deserve
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  S9: to live anymore, that God didn't want me to live anymore.
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  S9: I had an attempted suicide. Thank God I didn't actually die,
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  S9: but I was. Baker acted into a psych ward, full
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  S9: stop suicide watch, and I cried out to God in
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  S9: a way that I had never called out to Jesus again.
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  S9: I was instantly healed. I was instantly filled with joy.
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  S9: I spent the rest of my time in that psych ward,
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  S9: witnessing to everybody who Jesus is, the love that Jesus
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  S9: has for everybody. Just putting my arms around everybody. And
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  S9: to this day, I've never wanted another drink. And I
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  S9: just praise the Lord every day for his his love
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  S9: and comfort and salvation that he gave me in that
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  S9: in that horrible place I was in that night.
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  S1: Mary. Boom! Sister. That is powerhouse. And you know what?
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  S1: It's really wild. So you're admitted into the psych ward,
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  S1: and you may have had the answer. No one else
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  S1: in there did. For everything that was ailing folks. Way
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  S1: to go, sister. First time caller from Florida. Oh. All right,
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  S1: we got a question, don't we, Alex?
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S2: What's the biggest change Jesus has made in your life that,
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  S2: you know, you could not have made on your own? 805,
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  S2: five five, 78, 98. Give us a call on this
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  S2: freedom Friday 805 557898.
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  S7: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to cast and crew.
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  S1: Freedom Friday asking you a question. What's the biggest change
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  S1: Jesus has made in your life that you know you
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  S1: couldn't have made on your own? 805. Five. Five, 78, 98.
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  S1: Just the first few words of First Corinthians 1510 says
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  S1: it all, doesn't it?
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  S2: Absolutely. We've got your calls. Let's go to Carolyn calling
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  S2: in this morning from Florida. Carolyn, what do you say?
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  S2: What's the biggest change Jesus has made in your life
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  S2: you could not have made on your own?
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  S10: Good morning. I have to say God, um, empathy to
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  S10: have empathy for people to be sympathetic. And he has
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  S10: humbled me a lot. But I have to say, the
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  S10: biggest one would have to be pride, because I was
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  S10: one of those people who didn't believe I was ever wrong.
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  S10: I was not going to apologize. You could approve me.
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  S10: I was not going to be. Now I am so humble.
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  S10: I will come up to someone and say, hey, can
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  S10: I have five minutes of your time? Listen, I am
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  S10: so sorry, I apologize. So I know it's nobody but
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  S10: God because leave it up to me. No, baby, it
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  S10: would not have happened.
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  S6: That's so good.
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  S1: That's so good.
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  S6: Wow.
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  S1: That's so good. Caroline. That is so good. Oh my goodness. Boom.
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  S1: That's why we call you the boom crew around here.
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  S1: Let's try to get another one in here. Ali.
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  S2: Vicki from Romeoville, Illinois. What's the biggest change you've seen
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  S2: in your life that Jesus made? Not you.
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  S9: Uh.
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  S10: I had so many bad habits. I mean, I was impatient, unkind, uh, judgmental, gosh,
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  S10: you name it. Uh. And I still pray daily for
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  S10: thee for help with these. But he has taken this
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  S10: stuff away from me. I am now patient with people.
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  S10: I am kind. Well, except when I'm driving, it's still work.
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  S6: But, um.
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  S10: Yeah, but I'll tell you what I spent. I'm 73
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  S10: years old and I spent so much, uh. And there's
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  S10: so many things he's helped me with. I, I praise
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  S10: his name every single day.
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  S6: That's beautiful.
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  S10: But yeah, uh, taking away those bad habits, some of
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  S10: the evil thoughts that Satan would run through my. My head.
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  S10: Bringing up the past. And you know, I it's just amazing.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S10: Yeah. He's he's been able to take away almost every
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  S10: bad habit that I had.
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  S1: That's beautiful. Vicki, thank you so much for calling in sister. Boom.
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  S6: Man. Man.
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  S2: First Corinthians 1510. But by the grace of God, I
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  S2: am what I am.
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  S1: Full stop. I mean, that's that's powerful. See, one of
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  S1: the greatest evidences of freedom in Christ is that we
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  S1: can look and say, God did.
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  S6: That. Yeah.
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  S1: God did that.
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  S2: And I love that for so many of these callers.
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  S2: I mean, I think people expect the drugs to Jesus story.
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  S2: And that story is powerful. Absolutely. But I think people
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  S2: are a little bit more surprised by the pride to Jesus,
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  S2: by the.
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  S6: Impatience to Jesus.
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  S2: Lack of empathy to Jesus. Yeah, because those who reveal
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  S2: a deeper, deeper issues that way more people struggle with
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  S2: pride than struggle with drug drug addiction. Let's just be
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  S2: flat out honest.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S2: And so some people hear testimonies and go, well, you know,
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  S2: I'm not addicted to anything. So I think I'm good.
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  S6: Yeah.
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  S1: No, you're right on, Ali. That's the beauty of getting
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  S1: these kind of calls from the boom crew. Taking your calls.
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  S1: We got time to get in some more. We're going
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  S1: to keep them rolling here today. What's the biggest change
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  S1: Jesus has made in your life that you know you
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  S1: couldn't have made on your own? Go ahead, light it up.
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  S1: We're going to keep going. A few minutes here, guys. 805,
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  S1: five five, 78, 98, 805, five, five, 78, 98 spirit
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  S1: in your life that you know you couldn't have made
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  S1: on your own? Mike. First time caller. Muncie, Indiana. What
• 18:35
  S1: do you say, Mike?
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  S11: Hey, brother. Just the assurance of salvation is that deep
• 18:42
  S11: seated confidence that I am his and he is mine,
• 18:45
  S11: and it has transformed my life.
• 18:47
  S1: It's a powerhouse man. The spirit confirms in your spirit
• 18:50
  S1: that you are a child of God. Isn't that powerful, Mike?
• 18:55
  S11: Thank you. Yeah. So just something you can't produce in yourself.
• 18:58
  S11: You can't, you know, live a good life and have
• 19:00
  S11: that confidence enough. But when Jesus lives in you, it's
• 19:03
  S11: just nothing like it.
• 19:04
  S1: Yeah. Right on Mike. Boom, brother. Way to go. Thanks
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  S1: for the call this morning. First timer right there from Indiana.
• 19:10
  S1: Let's go back to the phone lines.
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  S2: Ali Theresa from Greenwood, Indiana. Same question for you. What's
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  S2: the biggest change you've seen Jesus make for you that
• 19:17
  S2: you could not have done on your own?
• 19:21
  S11: The ability to forgive others.
• 19:23
  S2: Ooh, that's a big one. There's probably more behind it. Theresa.
• 19:26
  S2: Tell us.
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  S12: Um, I experienced some abuse as a child, and I
• 19:33
  S12: was able. God gave me the gift to be able
• 19:35
  S12: to forgive those who abused me.
• 19:38
  S1: Yeah, you couldn't muster that on your own. And I'm sorry, sister,
• 19:41
  S1: but I am so pumped for the grace of God
• 19:44
  S1: in your life that gave you the power to do that.
• 19:46
  S1: That's real. Way to go, Theresa. Wow. Mack in Florida.
• 19:51
  S1: What do you say, Mack?
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  S13: Hey. Good morning guys. I think the most amazing thing
• 19:56
  S13: that happened in my life is being saved is taking
• 20:00
  S13: life into perspective. Now, uh, how real hell is. And, um,
• 20:05
  S13: I never realized that growing up without God in my life,
• 20:08
  S13: my addicted and alcoholic adults. Uh, I was almost ready
• 20:13
  S13: to die and comfortable with going to hell. It was, like,
• 20:16
  S13: better than being here. Mhm. And, uh, since I got
• 20:19
  S13: saved and really put life in perspective. And life is
• 20:22
  S13: just so more enjoyable now. And the love of people
• 20:26
  S13: is in me and peace and no more stress. That
• 20:29
  S13: burden has gone and been lifted. So, you know, going
• 20:33
  S13: into it for eternity with my Heavenly Father. But at
• 20:37
  S13: the same time, I enjoy life so much more. My brother.
• 20:40
  S6: Boom!
• 20:40
  S1: Brother. That is powerhouse, man. You can just feel it
• 20:44
  S1: oozing out of you, bro. That's the light of Jesus.
• 20:47
  S1: I can see it shining right through this digital board
• 20:49
  S1: I'm reading here. That's just powerhouse, isn't it, Ali?
• 20:53
  S2: Oh, my. I mean, each one of these calls, I mean,
• 20:57
  S2: boom crew. You were on fire this morning.
• 21:00
  S1: You guys are on fire, and it's a beautiful thing.
• 21:03
  S1: You know what? We might get a couple more here.
• 21:06
  S7: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to
• 21:10
  S7: Carl and crew.
• 21:11
  S1: All right. Taking your calls. Uh, maybe we weren't clear. We're.
• 21:16
  S1: We got phone lines wide open here. What? Let me
• 21:20
  S1: get this question again. Word for word. What's the biggest
• 21:22
  S1: change Jesus has made in your life that you know
• 21:26
  S1: you couldn't have made on your own? 805 five, five, 78,
• 21:31
  S1: 98 fire them up right now, guys. We'll get to you,
• 21:33
  S1: Jonathan in Chicago. What do you say, my man?
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  S14: Hey, the answer that I have is the biggest change
• 21:39
  S14: is made in my life was giving me life. I
• 21:42
  S14: was an atheist for eight years. Even though I was
• 21:44
  S14: born on the mission field. I was doing my atheist kick.
• 21:47
  S14: And then I had a motorcycle accident that left me
• 21:50
  S14: in a coma for 13 days, 48 days in the hospital,
• 21:53
  S14: and more than 28 broken bones in the body. And
• 21:57
  S14: Jesus said, for me to live as Christ and to
• 21:59
  S14: die is gain. So I think we forget just how
• 22:03
  S14: awesome our God is.
• 22:04
  S6: Yeah.
• 22:05
  S1: You know, being alive.
• 22:07
  S3: That's a good answer.
• 22:08
  S6: Is.
• 22:09
  S1: A great answer to that. What mission field were you
• 22:11
  S1: born and raised on? Were you born on the mission field?
• 22:14
  S14: I was I was born in France. My parents are
• 22:17
  S14: happy family overseas ministries. And then I spent a time
• 22:22
  S14: in 28 different countries in Europe. And then we went
• 22:24
  S14: to the Philippines and have a Bible school in the
• 22:27
  S14: Philippines and Vietnam and some other channels, and it's happy
• 22:30
  S14: Family Overseas ministries. And I was just on my atheist kick.
• 22:35
  S14: That made no sense. I mean, I've seen Jesus and
• 22:37
  S14: seen miracles and seen people get out of wheelchairs and
• 22:40
  S14: walk and talk and blind people see it and, you know,
• 22:43
  S14: things that you can't explain. And I was just on
• 22:45
  S14: my atheist kick like, well, I was born a Christian.
• 22:48
  S14: So that's why I believe that way though I knew better. And, uh,
• 22:51
  S14: then when I had my motorcycle accident, it was just
• 22:55
  S14: a wake up call. I hold on, what am I doing?
• 22:58
  S6: Yeah. And he.
• 22:59
  S14: He picks her own body.
• 23:00
  S1: He he blew life into a dead man laying there, bro.
• 23:04
  S1: That's what he did.
• 23:06
  S14: That's very true.
• 23:07
  S1: Jonathan, how old are you?
• 23:10
  S14: 51.
• 23:12
  S1: Your parents must have prayed for you, my man. Oh
• 23:15
  S1: my goodness.
• 23:16
  S14: I think they're still praying for me.
• 23:17
  S1: Amen. Amen. Are they still alive? Are they still with
• 23:20
  S1: us here?
• 23:21
  S14: Uh, yes. Mom and dad is, uh, Daniel McCurdy. And
• 23:25
  S14: they're still alive. And they still do missions, and they're
• 23:28
  S14: pretty amazing parents. Wow. It's the happy family. So it
• 23:31
  S14: was a privilege being born into a happy family. Thank
• 23:33
  S14: God for that all the time.
• 23:35
  S6: Yeah.
• 23:35
  S1: Way to go, Jonathan. What a great testimony, my man. Boom!
• 23:38
  S1: That's why we call you the boom crew right there.
• 23:40
  S6: That's powerful.
• 23:41
  S1: That is powerhouse, man. Greatest evidence that God is in
• 23:45
  S1: my life. That I couldn't do on my own. He
• 23:47
  S1: made me alive.
• 23:48
  S6: Yeah.
• 23:49
  S1: What do you say, Ali? Who do we have?
• 23:51
  S2: Let's go to Jean from Lockport, Illinois. What's the biggest
• 23:53
  S2: change Jesus has made in your life that you know
• 23:56
  S2: you couldn't have done on your own?
• 23:58
  S10: Well, I.
• 23:59
  S15: Was 40 years old, and he opened my eyes to
• 24:02
  S15: the fact that I was an alcoholic. Um, but I
• 24:05
  S15: was kind of on my own. I wasn't getting any
• 24:09
  S15: real guidance as to what I was supposed to do
• 24:12
  S15: now that I knew I couldn't drink anymore. And one day,
• 24:16
  S15: when my kids were driving me kind of crazy, and
• 24:19
  S15: I normally would have grabbed a drink, and instead I
• 24:22
  S15: went into the basement and I curled up in a
• 24:25
  S15: little ball between the washer and dryer. And I cried
• 24:28
  S15: out to him, um, to help me, but I didn't
• 24:31
  S15: know how he could help me because he had never
• 24:33
  S15: been an alcoholic. And I heard him say to me
• 24:37
  S15: that it was true. He wasn't an alcoholic, but he
• 24:40
  S15: knew how to live without drinking. And that's what he
• 24:43
  S15: was going to teach me. Wow. And I, I've been
• 24:47
  S15: sober now for 39 years.
• 24:50
  S6: Wow. Boom. Gene.
• 24:53
  S1: Yeah. Gene.
• 24:57
  S15: I couldn't have I couldn't have done it, but he
• 24:59
  S15: showed me. He just showed me beautiful. And I. And
• 25:03
  S15: I did it. And so I'm sober. Praise God.
• 25:06
  S1: Praise God.
• 25:07
  S15: Change in my family and everything.
• 25:09
  S6: Yeah.
• 25:09
  S1: Nothing like curling up in a ball and crying out
• 25:12
  S1: for God. My goodness. That's beautiful. Jean. Thank you. From Lockport. Boom.
• 25:16
  S1: That's why we call you the boom crew. Let's keep
• 25:18
  S1: going to the phones here, Ali.
• 25:19
  S2: Krista. First time caller from Indianapolis. What's the biggest change
• 25:23
  S2: Jesus has made in your life you could not have
• 25:25
  S2: made on your own?
• 25:27
  S16: Absolutely. Patience. Without the patient, I wouldn't have my peace.
• 25:32
  S6: Yeah.
• 25:33
  S1: That is so beautiful, Krista. Isn't. And you know, that's
• 25:37
  S1: one of the fruits of the spirit, which is, you know,
• 25:41
  S1: the the man conjured up patience. That's the gr. Get
• 25:45
  S1: your teeth together. And I'm.
• 25:47
  S6: Going to be.
• 25:48
  S1: Patient right now versus. Whoa! It's the fruit of the spirit. Krista.
• 25:54
  S1: First time caller from Indy. Boom! Sister. Way to go, guys. Tanya.
• 26:00
  S1: First time caller. Sugarcreek, Ohio. What's going on in your
• 26:04
  S1: life that you couldn't possibly do?
• 26:09
  S17: Um, I guess for me it was going to be, um,
• 26:12
  S17: just for him to give me the desire in my
• 26:15
  S17: heart to know him in a deeper way. Because, um,
• 26:19
  S17: originally I didn't want to know him at all.
• 26:21
  S6: Yeah.
• 26:22
  S17: So that to me was huge.
• 26:24
  S1: What a beautiful thing. We're getting all these different angles of.
• 26:30
  S1: And this is so cool. A desire to know him
• 26:33
  S1: brought to you by God alone. Boom.
• 26:37
  S2: That is a that's theologically rich. Maybe more than you
• 26:41
  S2: even realize because it's it's true that we don't come
• 26:46
  S2: unless the spirit draws us. Like we don't just decide
• 26:49
  S2: one day, hey, I'm going to turn from my old ways.
• 26:53
  S2: We may think that that's what's happening, but it's the
• 26:56
  S2: power of the spirit that draws us totally.
• 26:59
  S1: Diane. First time caller. Lake waters, I think. Lake. No.
• 27:03
  S1: Lake Wales. Florida. What do you say, Diane?
• 27:05
  S18: If I say that I'm 62 years old and I
• 27:11
  S18: became a Christian when I was eight and I meant it,
• 27:13
  S18: I felt that God has always been a part of
• 27:15
  S18: my life. He's been a part of my life, and
• 27:19
  S18: it has taken going through some really, really hard times
• 27:24
  S18: where I clung to him because he was all I had.
• 27:27
  S18: And in that I have learned that he is all
• 27:30
  S18: I need. I don't need anyone else in my life.
• 27:32
  S18: I don't need to have a man in my life
• 27:34
  S18: to make me worthy. I don't need to have any
• 27:38
  S18: other person that makes me who I am. That makes
• 27:42
  S18: me special, that I look to for anything except God.
• 27:47
  S6: Boom.
• 27:47
  S18: Sister. I have my children, my grandchildren, and I used to,
• 27:52
  S18: I did. I used to think how in the world can.
• 27:56
  S18: How can I love God more than my child? How
• 27:58
  S18: can I love God more than my grandchildren, but I.
• 28:02
  S18: I do now and it is because of what he
• 28:05
  S18: took me through that made me, forced me into a
• 28:11
  S18: stronger relationship with him, clinging to him, really getting in
• 28:14
  S18: my Bible and staying in it.
• 28:16
  S1: Boom boom boom. Sister Diane, first time caller from Lake Wales, Florida.
• 28:22
  S1: That's what God can do. That's why we call it
• 28:27
  S1: Freedom Friday right here. Wow. How about these stories?
• 28:32
  S7: The gospel changes everything.
• 28:35
  S2: Where else am I going to find peace, joy, eternal
• 28:38
  S2: life not found in anyone else?
• 28:41
  S7: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
• 28:43
  S1: And on this Freedom Friday, we've been getting a bunch
• 28:46
  S1: of responses to this question. What's the biggest change Jesus
• 28:50
  S1: has made in your life that you know you couldn't
• 28:52
  S1: have made on your own? Thanks for holding on. Jean
• 28:55
  S1: and Prospect Heights, Illinois. What's your answer to that question?
• 29:00
  S19: Um, desire to change. As a teenager, I copied my
• 29:05
  S19: dad's behavior. I was so full of anger and rage.
• 29:09
  S19: I had siblings throw things at them. I gave a
• 29:12
  S19: pastor's kid a bloody nose, shot my sister in the
• 29:14
  S19: leg with a BB gun. I was just not a
• 29:16
  S19: good girl. But when I accepted Christ, I didn't want
• 29:20
  S19: to be that person anymore.
• 29:21
  S6: Wow.
• 29:22
  S19: And God made me aware of my sin and a
• 29:26
  S19: desire to change. A deep desire to change. And that's
• 29:30
  S19: continued through the years. He keeps showing me more sin.
• 29:35
  S1: Isn't that. Isn't that beautiful, Gene?
• 29:39
  S19: Unbelievable.
• 29:40
  S1: Yeah, it really is unbelievable. Oh, bless your heart, Gene.
• 29:43
  S1: You are a true sister, man. That is so beautiful
• 29:46
  S1: to hear. Boom boom boom.
• 29:49
  S7: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
• 29:52
  S7: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
• 29:56
  S7: Carl and crew on Moody Radio. Well, I love.
• 30:00
  S1: Teachers and I love education and it's because I was
• 30:06
  S1: a PK. I was a principal's kid. Yeah. I was
• 30:11
  S1: a PK man. So when you're when you're a PK
• 30:15
  S1: principal's kid, you got a big heart for someone who was, oh,
• 30:19
  S1: I just love this. Not only is she a national
• 30:22
  S1: board certified teacher, she was a finalist for South Carolina
• 30:27
  S1: Teacher of the year. How what do you have to
• 30:30
  S1: do to be a finalist for teacher of the year?
• 30:32
  S20: Beth Hendrick you know, it's a lot of teaching and just,
• 30:37
  S20: you know, enjoying it and loving it and telling other
• 30:40
  S20: people what's so great about being a teacher.
• 30:43
  S1: Oh, no, it's more than that. I'm sorry. I'm going
• 30:45
  S1: to brag on you here. I'm sorry.
• 30:47
  S20: It's a lot of work.
• 30:48
  S1: It's a lot of work. It's a lot of love.
• 30:51
  S1: Those kids you don't get teacher of the year if
• 30:55
  S1: those kids don't dig it. I mean, and it's hard,
• 30:57
  S1: because sometimes you got to put your. So let's talk
• 31:01
  S1: about this a second to be a good teacher. What
• 31:03
  S1: do you have to do?
• 31:05
  S20: It's a work of heart. So you are not just
• 31:08
  S20: teaching minds. You are teaching from your heart to theirs.
• 31:12
  S20: So it's really, you know, a passion and, you know,
• 31:15
  S20: a calling. To me, this is a mission field. So
• 31:19
  S20: it goes beyond just teaching these little minds. It's really
• 31:22
  S20: about putting your heart and your whole heart, working at
• 31:25
  S20: it with all your heart, into helping develop their little
• 31:28
  S20: hearts and minds, too.
• 31:30
  S2: Beth Hendrick is our guest this morning. She's a Christian author, educator, speaker,
• 31:34
  S2: and a mom who's passionate about helping children and families
• 31:37
  S2: become rooted in God's Word so their faith can flourish.
• 31:41
  S2: It's back to school season. So many families are packing
• 31:45
  S2: up and sending kids off to public school, private school,
• 31:48
  S2: Christian school. Some are keeping them home to homeschool them.
• 31:52
  S2: And if you want to get a debate started, ask
• 31:55
  S2: a group of moms, the best way to educate their kids,
• 32:00
  S2: and all of a sudden it gets feisty really quickly.
• 32:04
  S2: But no matter what, the Lord leads you in terms
• 32:07
  S2: of the how kids are learning and absorbing every single
• 32:12
  S2: day in and out of school, speak to that first. Beth.
• 32:16
  S20: So I believe that all parents are teachers and really
• 32:20
  S20: they're the first teacher. So from the moment they're born,
• 32:24
  S20: you are teaching your children, you know, how, what it
• 32:27
  S20: looks like to be a person and a believer. And
• 32:30
  S20: so I really feel that all parents are really homeschoolers
• 32:35
  S20: in the sense that it's our job to teach our
• 32:37
  S20: children the faith at home. That is something that really
• 32:40
  S20: shouldn't be outsourced. Yes, there's great spiritual leaders, great support
• 32:44
  S20: in churches, but our little people need to see what
• 32:47
  S20: it looks like to love and follow Jesus at home,
• 32:51
  S20: because we want them to carry that out into the world.
• 32:54
  S20: And they're the next generation of little disciples. So we're
• 32:57
  S20: really teaching them what that looks like.
• 33:00
  S1: I'm a little or a lot older than you, Beth.
• 33:03
  S1: And so I think the vantage point that I have
• 33:06
  S1: is it's undeniable. My bride and I have seen this
• 33:10
  S1: with adult kids, and now we have grandkids. These seeds
• 33:14
  S1: that are planted, you may not see them crop up
• 33:18
  S1: right away, but oh my goodness, they're worth planting, aren't they? Beth?
• 33:23
  S20: 100% yes. Because you guys, you know how God works.
• 33:27
  S20: It's over time and we don't always see the fruit.
• 33:31
  S20: Like you said, it takes a while to plant seeds.
• 33:33
  S20: But parents, I believe that when we are intentional and
• 33:36
  S20: we're planning those seeds, we're watering every day, showing our
• 33:40
  S20: kids what it looks like, those faithful little steps, how
• 33:44
  S20: to read the word that's our daily bread. You know
• 33:47
  S20: how to come to the living water, and that's what's
• 33:50
  S20: going to nourish us. And then they're going to see
• 33:53
  S20: and over time, they're going to start walking it out.
• 33:56
  S20: And then I think we're going to start seeing that
• 33:58
  S20: fruit produce because that's how God works. That fruit is
• 34:01
  S20: going to be produced when he is the one doing
• 34:03
  S20: the growing.
• 34:04
  S2: Beth, you have a book out called The Way of
• 34:07
  S2: Life an A to Z Christian Family devotional. It's very interactive.
• 34:11
  S2: It's designed to be a discipleship guide to help pass
• 34:14
  S2: the faith on from one generation to the next. What
• 34:17
  S2: do you see as the biggest challenges that families face
• 34:20
  S2: today in terms of passing faith on from one generation
• 34:24
  S2: to the next?
• 34:25
  S20: The world right now in culture is just so loud
• 34:28
  S20: and it's coming at families from all angles. So I
• 34:31
  S20: think what we've got to do is protect our kids,
• 34:34
  S20: kind of put up that boundary line that, hey, these
• 34:37
  S20: kids are mine and ours, and we're going to raise
• 34:41
  S20: them to love the Lord. So we've got to fill
• 34:43
  S20: them up at home and be intentional to really pass
• 34:46
  S20: that foundation of faith so that it sticks. And that's
• 34:49
  S20: one thing in the book I try to give parents
• 34:51
  S20: a very doable, ready made discipleship guide. That's really setting
• 34:56
  S20: them up. They just go through it's from A to Z,
• 34:59
  S20: so it's walking them through. What does it look like
• 35:01
  S20: to be a believer? Why do we believe what we believe,
• 35:04
  S20: and how do we walk it out in very practical
• 35:06
  S20: ways so that it does stick and they're not going
• 35:10
  S20: with the wayward culture we're providing them with that, you know,
• 35:13
  S20: just foundation to stand on.
• 35:15
  S1: I love that you've done this work because I think
• 35:17
  S1: a lot of parents, if you were to say, let
• 35:20
  S1: me just grab a portion of your subtitle here, discipleship,
• 35:24
  S1: learn live. Oh, parents go, oh, no, I've got a
• 35:30
  S1: disciple junior. I'm barely getting discipled myself. Uh, your goal
• 35:36
  S1: here is to make it really reachable, right, Beth?
• 35:40
  S20: 100%. Yes. I actually designed it so that parents, you
• 35:44
  S20: don't have to be an expert. You could actually be
• 35:46
  S20: a new believer yourself. And this is really like a
• 35:49
  S20: one on one. So you literally there's a little intro,
• 35:52
  S20: but then you turn to a. It's. We have the
• 35:54
  S20: armor of God. So you're going to learn straight off
• 35:57
  S20: what does it look like once we're a believer? How
• 36:00
  S20: are we armored up? And every day it just walks
• 36:03
  S20: you through three simple steps. So learn the truth, pray
• 36:07
  S20: the way, live the life so parents can be learning
• 36:10
  S20: to the scriptures right there in the book. It's got pictures,
• 36:13
  S20: little explanations. So it's kind of like you're walking alongside
• 36:17
  S20: your children, but you are learning. You can be learning
• 36:21
  S20: too straight from God's Word. And it's all right there
• 36:23
  S20: for you.
• 36:24
  S2: Beth. One of the things that we encounter often on
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  S2: the show, both from our listeners and from our own stories,
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  S2: is that there are many, many people who are raised
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  S2: in church and who learn the Bible stories and who
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  S2: even learn how to look outwardly Christian. I would put
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  S2: myself in this category, but who have a heart that
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  S2: is far from God. How do we strike that balance
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  S2: between teaching our kids what it looks like to be
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  S2: a Christian without losing sometimes the heart, which is what
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  S2: matters so much more than what the outside looks like.
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  S20: So I think we've got to move from information to transformation.
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  S20: And you know that God is the one who does
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  S20: the hard work. So I think, um, we can't save
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  S20: our children, right? I mean, parents, we could try our hardest.
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  S20: Like you said, preacher kid, your parents probably tried and
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  S20: they probably did a great job, but each kid can
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  S20: only be saved by Jesus Christ. And so what I
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  S20: think that looks like is bringing our kids to him,
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  S20: to Jesus every day. And we're modeling that, and we're
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  S20: bringing them to the one who can save them. And
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  S20: so we're teaching them, hey, we're not just doing this
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  S20: because it's something to check off a list. We're doing
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  S20: this because we want to. Jesus is the one who
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  S20: can save us, and we want to spend time with him.
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  S20: We want to be meditating on the word. We want
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  S20: to do these things because we love him and we
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  S20: want to be with him, and we want to be
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  S20: like him. So I think that's where God is going
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  S20: to start to change hearts is time with him. He's
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  S20: the one that's doing the changing, not us.
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  S1: Love it. Okay. I'm dying to know something here. The
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  S1: title of your new book is The Way of Life
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  S1: an A to Z Christian Family Devotional. It's a 26
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  S1: week interactive discipleship guide to learn and live by biblical truth.
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  S1: All right, I got to know what's the Z? You
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  S1: used iteration here. So what in the world is the Z?
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  S1: I'm dying to know.
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  S20: Zeal for God. Oh.
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  S1: I should have known that.
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  S21: I know, I know, it's I knew it was in zoology.
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  S20: Yeah. I mean, you know, I had to think of
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  S20: something here, but. Right. It's a good ending because it's
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  S20: all about being excited for God and eternal things. So
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  S20: it really puts that perspective in the place like, hey,
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  S20: God is our priority and this really matters. And we
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  S20: want to live our whole life putting God first. And
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  S20: that's the whole point of the book, really.
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  S2: Beth Hendrick, our guest this morning, the book The Way
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  S2: of Life. It's a great family devotional. Just text the
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• 39:01
  S7: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.
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  S1: Janet partial or guest? What a joy to have her
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  S1: in here, right? Allie.
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  S2: Yes. Normally heard in the afternoons on in the market
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  S2: with Janet Parshall here on Moody Radio. But joining us
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  S2: for the morning.
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  S1: You know, we've been saying something on the morning show
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  S1: now for a number of months. We've really been spiking this,
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  S1: that the gospel without repentance is no gospel at all.
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  S1: We've used words for a generation plus Janet of Accept Jesus,
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  S1: slip your hand in the air, maybe stand and say,
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  S1: I believe. But there is a very clear distinction, especially
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  S1: I'm thinking of Mark chapter one. I think it's verse 14.
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  S1: Jesus spoke the words himself. He says the kingdom is
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  S1: at hand. Repent and be saved. This call to repentance
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  S1: is not just add Jesus to you. It's the total
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  S1: turning away from the broad path onto this narrow path
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  S1: apart from it. We are not fit for the kingdom
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  S1: of God. You've heard the gospel given, and I'm using
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  S1: that in air quotes, because the apostle Paul says, if
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  S1: you're bringing a different gospel, be accursed. You've heard a
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  S1: lot over the years. Why is repentance such a key
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  S1: element in the presentation of the good news?
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  S22: I believe it 100%. And let me just affirm what
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  S22: you're saying and why you're on to something here. I
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  S22: just talked to Doctor George Barna, who does this American
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  S22: Worldview inventory through the Christian Research Center at Arizona Christian University.
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  S22: And the latest iteration of the inventory is the issue
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  S22: of salvation. And when he interviewed people who even identify
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  S22: as Christians, they don't add repentance to the conversation. They
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  S22: do exactly what you just said. So the data out there,
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  S22: the objective black ink on white paper says exactly what
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  S22: you just said, Carl, that it's Jesus. Raise your hand.
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  S22: It's all done. Don't have to do anything. Wait a minute.
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  S22: Repent means we have to turn away. If we confess
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  S22: with our heart that Jesus is Lord and believe in
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  S22: our heart that God has raised him from the dead,
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  S22: we will be saved. Repentance means there has to be
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  S22: a change. There has to be a turning away. And
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  S22: if we just say, oh, Jesus loves everybody and I
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  S22: just want him into my heart, but we're not willing
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  S22: to let him come in and conform and transform us
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  S22: to his image. Then what have we done? We have
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  S22: not allowed the workings of the inner spirit, the Holy Spirit,
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  S22: in our inner man, to be able to completely change
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  S22: who we are. So repentance means, Lord, I just fall
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  S22: on my face before you. I want to be in
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  S22: agreement with you that this fill in the blank. Your book, Karl,
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  S22: is sin, and I want to present that to you,
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  S22: and I want to eradicate it out of my life.
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  S22: And you're a promise keeping God. And you said, if
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  S22: I confess, you'd forgive. And I want that now. Now
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  S22: change me, redirect me, put me on a new path.
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  S22: And if we don't do that, then what it is,
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  S22: is it's just lip service. If I'm really broken and
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  S22: Christianity is about being broken, and that's not a, you know,
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  S22: that's not a real good, attractive reason to say, sign
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  S22: up to be a Christian because you're going to be broken. Well,
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  S22: you are. And in that brokenness is utter liberty. Submission
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  S22: is freedom. I know it is so countercultural. It's antithetical
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  S22: to anything we've ever learned. But coming to Christ and saying,
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  S22: I don't want me, I want you more of you,
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  S22: less of me, that wonderful proclamation, I am dead, but
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  S22: Christ lives in me. That's where our identity is found.
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  S22: And that can only happen when we're willing to pour
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  S22: out everything at his feet, including our sin, and saying,
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  S22: change me, mold me, shape me, forgive me, and lead me.
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  S2: Janet, you know, you mentioned the the Barna statistics that
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  S2: show that many even professing Christians, fail to include repentance.
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  S2: Why do you think that is? And we're not about
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  S2: placing blame here. This isn't about downing anyone or any
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  S2: institution or anything like that. But what do you think
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  S2: has caused that? I mean, there's never been more access
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  S2: to a good Bible, a good translations in paper form,
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  S2: in digital form, podcasts. So many people talking about the gospel.
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  S2: Where is the disconnect?
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  S22: First of all, it's an excellent question, Ellie. And I'm
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  S22: going to tell you what Doctor George Barnett said, because
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  S22: I asked him that exact same question. And the disconnect
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  S22: is this we want a cushy, comfortable Christianity. Yes. And
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  S22: that comfortable, cushy Christianity results in sloppy thinking about eternity.
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  S22: And what we need to be thinking about is that
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  S22: repentance is inexorably connected to eternity. I'm going to be
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  S22: spending the rest of eternity with Jesus Christ. This is
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  S22: so temporal. But what we want are easy access to Christianity.
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  S22: We want an easy, manageable God, where I don't have
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  S22: to change. He becomes the great ATM machine in the sky.
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  S22: I get what I want and there's no commitment on
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  S22: my part. There's no sacrifice on my part. And I'll
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  S22: use the word again. There is no submission on that part. So, Ali,
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  S22: the court to your question is we want comfort. We
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  S22: are a comfort seeking culture, and we want a comfortable
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  S22: kind of Christianity. If you want comfortable Christianity, you're barking
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  S22: up the wrong tree because Christianity is anything but comfortable.
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  S22: You know, I love what C.S. Lewis said about the scriptures.
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  S22: It's not the part of scripture that I don't understand
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  S22: that I have a problem with. It's the part that
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  S22: I do understand and don't want to apply to my life.
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  S22: And that's really what the majority of it is for
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  S22: all of us, is that this is about dying to yourself.
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  S22: And I know it's so bizarre. It's like it's talking
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  S22: a foreign language out of Star Trek or something, but
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  S22: the idea of completely submitting to him, creating utter and
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  S22: total freedom in our lives, it's so countercultural. And I
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  S22: don't know about you. That's that's the radical in me.
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  S22: I love being countercultural. I wouldn't want anything but to
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  S22: be countercultural, because that means that I don't have temporal
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  S22: situational happiness and peace. I have eternal, everlasting peace that
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  S22: passes understanding given to me by the one who said,
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  S22: it's not the kind of peace the world gives you.
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  S22: It's the kind of peace that I give you that
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  S22: will give you happiness, joy, comfort, and solitude.
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  S1: It's interesting. Lewis spoke of the great temptation and the
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  S1: way Satan strategizes. I just wonder, it seems to me
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  S1: that there's a lot of parents, and we have a
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  S1: lot of parents and grandparents listening right now who want
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  S1: something so badly for their kids that we sometimes lower
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  S1: the bar on the gospel, but we provide then a deep.
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  S1: I call it a hallucination of salvation. Children wind up
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  S1: seeing something in themselves that isn't there. And I wonder
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  S1: if if the greatest threat to the real gospel isn't
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  S1: that we mean so well, but we come up then,
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  S1: so short of the mark of what our kids need. Look,
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  S1: I've got adult kids and now I've got a granddaughter.
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  S1: Here's the funny thing. I don't want my kids to
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  S1: hurt in ways that I was hurting as a kid.
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  S1: But we have to understand that there's a certain pain
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  S1: involved in facing the reality of our sinfulness, and that
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  S1: we need a savior.
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  S22: Yeah, Carol, I hear the question within the question and
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  S22: the angst within the comment, because when we're parents of
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  S22: adult children, we can't do what we did when they
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  S22: were babies, when we knew that they were going to
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  S22: fall and they were just about to hit their head
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  S22: in the coffee table, we could lunge, grab them, pull
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  S22: them back and protect them. Can't do that. I would
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  S22: take toilet training any day over raising an adult child.
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  S22: It's so much easier, believe me, at that age. But
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  S22: the thing that we have to understand is that and
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  S22: I have gone back to this in my prayer life,
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  S22: I was just talking to the Lord last night, thanking
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  S22: him that I have such easy access to the throne
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  S22: of grace that I can intercede for my children, that
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  S22: I can plead for their safety, for their physical, emotional, mental,
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  S22: and spiritual protection. That he can put a hedge of
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  S22: protection around them. That I can go before the Lord
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  S22: and say, Lord, do what's necessary to bring them home
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  S22: to you. That's a hard prayer, because I have seen
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  S22: in my four children's life ways in which the Lord
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  S22: has said, I'm going to bring you home, not by
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  S22: the way you expected. And it may be a difficult route,
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  S22: but when you're done, you're going to be refined. And
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  S22: that's exactly what he's doing in my life. Why can
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  S22: I not pray that for my kids? And so the
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  S22: reality is sometimes that tough love says, first and foremost, Lord,
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  S22: you love them. In fact, this is always a prayer
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  S22: I say to the Lord, as much as I love
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  S22: my babies, I can never love them. Lord, as much
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  S22: as you love them. And I thank you for that.
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  S22: So because of that reality, do what is necessary to
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  S22: bring them home to you. Rekindle a spark. Reignite the
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  S22: love that they need for you. Bring in Christian friends
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  S22: in their lives. Make them jealous for the relationship that
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  S22: friend has with Jesus. So they would want the same
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  S22: thing in their life as well. And sometimes it means
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  S22: standing at the door while your kid eats with pigs.
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  S22: And that's tough. But if that's what it takes before
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  S22: they turn, repent and come home, then be it. That's
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  S22: the way it has to be.
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  S1: Janet, we love you. And and I mean that. God
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  S1: is our father. You are my sister and sister. You
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  S1: are a choice, sister. Indeed. We're grateful for you. I
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  S1: want you, boom crew to know this, that if you
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  S1: haven't tuned in lately or you never have, some of
• 47:57
  S1: you commute in the mornings, or you've just found our
• 47:59
  S1: program here recently. There is a gold mine going on
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  S1: in the afternoons around here, right?
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  S2: Absolutely. In the market with Janet. Partial. It's 4 to
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  S2: 6 p.m. central time, but check your listings for if
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  S2: Just text market to 805 557898. Text market to 805 557898.