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Chinese History—Qin Empire Strikes Back: Liu Bang's Rise and Xiang Liang's Fall | Silk and Steel · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chinese History podcast series
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Speaker 1: on Silk and Steel, where we talk about the Chinese
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Speaker 1: history from the deepest antiquity to what we optimistically hope
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Speaker 1: will be the present day thereabouts. In the present day,
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Speaker 1: we have just been through at least the initial phase,
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Speaker 1: most kinetic phase of a major war, and we are
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Speaker 1: in a kind of and once again in an ambiguous
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Speaker 1: no war, no peace situation. But in the period of
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Speaker 1: Chinese history we are talking about, there is no such ambiguity.
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Speaker 1: It is full on chaos under heaven, as the Qin
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Speaker 1: dynasty is what it will eventually be in its death throes,
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Speaker 1: but further, for the time being, it is putting up
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Speaker 1: a significant fight against a slew of different rebel factions
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Speaker 1: of that have arisen in the territories of the former
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Speaker 1: six states that were owned that were conquered really within
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Speaker 1: like two decades of the present of the time period
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Speaker 1: we're talking about. Once again, I am the perpetual guest JJ,
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Speaker 1: and welcoming us back is Carl from Bali.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Carl, Hi, JJ, thank you for welcoming with that
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Speaker 2: lovely intro. It's actually within the chain unification actually took
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Speaker 2: place less than fifteen years. You know, they only conquered
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Speaker 2: the two state within the last ten eleven years. So
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Speaker 2: like the whole process happened very fast. This is why
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Speaker 2: the Qing dynasty didn't have the time to really consolidate
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Speaker 2: their control before the rebellion breakout. And last time we
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Speaker 2: introduced the main character who will end this chaos, the
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Speaker 2: founder of Han dynasty, the Ubang. The Ubang started his
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Speaker 2: rebellion two months after ten cent first race of flag
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Speaker 2: of rebellion in Uh there's a two O nine Uh
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Speaker 2: uh BC and and around this time, Nilbaum was about
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Speaker 2: forty eight years old. You know he's so he's bombing
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Speaker 2: around for most of his life as a local tough
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Speaker 2: and and now he finally sees his chance. So for
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Speaker 2: people who are listening, it's never too late to start.
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Speaker 2: I'm forty nine this year. There's still hope for me
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Speaker 2: because people's life expectancy is a lot higher nowadays.
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Speaker 1: It's never, never.
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Speaker 2: Too late to start. And Neil Bum's counterpart, shun Me,
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Speaker 2: was twenty four years old when he started the rebellion.
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Speaker 2: And so after Duboum raised the flag of rebellion, he
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Speaker 2: Uh was elected leader of his rebel group. Uh, he
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Speaker 2: was called Pay going. Pay is a is a county
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Speaker 2: seat that he captured. Gung is a title for a
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Speaker 2: county governor in the state of two. So he's basically
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Speaker 2: calling himself the governor of Pay. And so he first
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Speaker 2: hold a grand ceremony offering sacrifice to the Yellow Emperor
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Speaker 2: and to CEO. It's interesting that he offers sacrifice to both.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what, uh, you know what wrote Ceo
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Speaker 2: held before hind dynasty because after hindh dynasty, Ceo is
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Speaker 2: like kind of the figure that's all often like antagonist
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Speaker 2: to Yellow Emperor, right, because Yellow Emperor had to defeat
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Speaker 2: Ceo in battle, so maybe maybe he was worshiped as
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Speaker 2: a god or war or something. So anyway, so they
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Speaker 2: offer sacrifice to both Yellow Emperor and Ceo and then
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Speaker 2: they you know, to offer sacrifice, they usually use cow,
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Speaker 2: sheep and pig, uh, and then they use those animal
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Speaker 2: blood to paint their flags red. The reason that paint
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Speaker 2: the flag's blood red is because, uh, the story that
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Speaker 2: the Ubang himself killed a giant white snake, and the
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Speaker 2: giant white snake is supposed to be the song of
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Speaker 2: the White Imperor, and White Imperor is a revere figure
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Speaker 2: in the Qin dynasty, the Chain dynasty, they offer like
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Speaker 2: special sacrifice to the White Emperor several times, and it
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Speaker 2: was said, according according to the story, old women cry
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Speaker 2: like oh my son was the song of the White Emperor.
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Speaker 2: He was killed by the song of the Red Emperor.
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Speaker 2: So because the Obang is supposedly the song of the
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Speaker 2: red Emperor, so red color become his like you know,
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Speaker 2: lucky lucky color, and and so all the other flags
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Speaker 2: were painted blood red with actual Saco official animal blood.
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Speaker 2: And then Lubun said to appoint all his uh, the
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Speaker 2: people that he.
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Speaker 3: Grew up with.
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Speaker 2: You know it's how shall tausen as his uh lieutenant
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Speaker 2: and uh Shahoeing the guy that he went to jail
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Speaker 2: for him. Uh then Al the guy that that beat
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Speaker 2: up the prison guard to who tried to sexually assow
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Speaker 2: his wife in prison. And Zoe Blow, a guy who
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Speaker 2: who was a musician, a local musician. So all these
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Speaker 2: guys got appointed position as officers in his army. And
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Speaker 2: he raised about two two to three thousand men and
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Speaker 2: he started to attack the neighboring tongues. This this raised uh,
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Speaker 2: this this captured attention of the local the Suite prefect
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Speaker 2: Uh military commander, So su Susui prefectual Susui Commandery UH
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Speaker 2: controls this general area. And so this this Chin military
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Speaker 2: commander wanted to you know, uh make a name for himself.
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Speaker 2: So he he uh mobilized the Chin garrison to attack
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Speaker 2: Dubang's forces Uh. But Uban was able to defeat him
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Speaker 2: and the Susuik military governor had to hold hold up
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Speaker 2: in a city and Dubang wanted to press on to
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Speaker 2: to to take the city, but his advisor self who said, well, okay,
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Speaker 2: we only have a couple We only have like a
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Speaker 2: couple of thousand men, and we don't have any siege engines.
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Speaker 2: You know, those smaller and Indian city cities still have
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Speaker 2: their fortifications. Let's try, Uh, Let's try convince him to
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Speaker 2: surrender first and then we we can if he refused,
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Speaker 2: and then will resort to a siege. And so they
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Speaker 2: were able to convince his Chin military commander to actually
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Speaker 2: surrender the city to them.
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Speaker 3: UH.
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Speaker 2: Again this catched so as Nubounk's notoriety arose, he Uh
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Speaker 2: coming to the attention of the Susui prefects uh Uh
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Speaker 2: Prefecture's governor, who led another army to come to try
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Speaker 2: to defeat him, but again Nubang was able to defeat
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Speaker 2: this chin Uh this last Ching garrison in battle Uh,
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Speaker 2: Dubun's general taw Wusung caught up with the Qin governor
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Speaker 2: who tried to flee the battlefield and decapitated him. So
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Speaker 2: everything was going well at this point. Suddenly the news
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Speaker 2: came back to Dubuan that his Uh headquarter in fun
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Speaker 2: So before he left to conquer the neighboring cities, he
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Speaker 2: appointed one of his followers, Juns two Uh, to to
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Speaker 2: be to to defen then his headquarters at Fund. While
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Speaker 2: the Nuban was achieving this stream of victories against the
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Speaker 2: local Chain garrison, the news came to him his commander
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Speaker 2: in Fun Jongs betrayed him Uh. And this came about
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Speaker 2: because at this time the all the rebels were popping
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Speaker 2: up like like bamboo shoots after a reign, particularly the
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Speaker 2: Restore Way State. We talked about the Restore Wasted a
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Speaker 2: couple of episodes earlier. Originally, the King Tensen sent his
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Speaker 2: general so Fu to recover to conquer the Way territory.
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Speaker 2: But after conquering the Way Territory's old Fool's followers want
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Speaker 2: to make Sofoo the king, but Sofu thought better of it.
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Speaker 2: He decided to prop a descendant of the Way, the
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Speaker 2: House of Way, as the new King of Way. You know,
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Speaker 2: after he got permission fund ten cent after several rounds
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Speaker 2: of negotiations. Now so Zofu now served as the governor
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Speaker 2: as the Prime Minister of Waste State, and he he
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Speaker 2: aimed to expand the Way uh Way territory. So he
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Speaker 2: led the Way Army to camp besiege New Bunks Territory
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Speaker 2: at Fund and he issued ultimatum to the Fund defender Young.
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Speaker 2: He said, look, I give you two choices. The Fund
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Speaker 2: used to be the Way territory before the Chain conquest,
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Speaker 2: and now the Way store Waste State has been restored.
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Speaker 2: It's only right that the Fund should be restored to
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Speaker 2: the Way State. Now, I give you two choices. One
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Speaker 2: you surrender to us, and then I will allow you
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Speaker 2: to keep serving your role as a governor of Funk.
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Speaker 2: And I will in feef you as a marquee and
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Speaker 2: so you have legitimacy. And I give you the city
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Speaker 2: that you're defending as your own thief Uh. If you refuse,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna take the city. We're gonna massacre everyone inside it.
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Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna sack it. So the choice is yours.
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Speaker 2: And he joined Nilbung's rebellion not because he was, you
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Speaker 2: know uh an eager follower of Dilbank. It's because he
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Speaker 2: himself came from He was a son of a prominent family,
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Speaker 2: and he used to look down on Lubang as this
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Speaker 2: like village bomb, right, and and and then just because
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Speaker 2: Bilbank was promoted by to be the rebel leader, that
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Speaker 2: he had no choice but to follow. So now when
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Speaker 2: presented with his choice, he decided, you know what, I'm
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Speaker 2: just going to defect to the state away and and
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold fun as as as a way marquee.
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Speaker 2: So when Bilbank cleared this news, he was very angry.
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Speaker 2: He led his forces back to attack Fun but youngs
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Speaker 2: apparently is a very good defender and he had the
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Speaker 2: support of the local populace and Yuban wasn't able to
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Speaker 2: take it. And because of this, Dubung became became sick,
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Speaker 2: became ill because I guess he was so stressed out
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Speaker 2: by losing his uh Uh headquarter. And then his his
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Speaker 2: advisor Shuk told him, look, we by ourselves. We cannot
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Speaker 2: take fun. But this this is why we could uh
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Speaker 2: attach ourselves to another larger rebel force and use their
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Speaker 2: use their force to take fun. So the Ubang thought
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Speaker 2: this was a great idea.
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Speaker 1: So he basically he wants to he's going to have
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Speaker 1: to do what Yong Shuo already did by subordinating himself
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Speaker 1: to a larger force. The Young Sho, as I understand,
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Speaker 1: he was not particularly close to Lil Boon at all,
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Speaker 1: but Lil Boon, you know, would it would makes sense
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Speaker 1: for Lil Bung to pick to leave someone like him
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Speaker 1: in charge because he's the representative of the local elite interests, right,
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Speaker 1: So you know, in a way, like looking back, it seems,
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Speaker 1: you know, it would have made maybe made more sense
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Speaker 1: for Lil Bun to put one of his confidants in
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Speaker 1: charge of his own base. But if he does that,
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Speaker 1: then he's telling all of these local elites, I don't
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Speaker 1: trust you, right, So it's it would make sense from
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Speaker 1: his perspective that you've got to, like, yeah, put someone
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Speaker 1: like him in charge, with the risk, of course, is
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Speaker 1: that he's not really I mean, there is no particular
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Speaker 1: loyalty to Lil Bung beyond personal ties, right, they are
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Speaker 1: all in this rebellion against the Chin State and the
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Speaker 1: future the political trajectory of this rebellion is still kind
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Speaker 1: of unclear. It's only betrayal on a personal level.
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Speaker 2: It's not a right right because and the Way State
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Speaker 2: is a much bigger fish than Lelbung. At this pointin
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Speaker 2: Ubang is only like self appointed governor of Pei County,
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Speaker 2: and but you have a restore Way State next door,
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Speaker 2: and it was much more powerful. So Ubang decided. At
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Speaker 2: this time, Nubang heard just next door, Uh there was
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Speaker 2: a new king, and this was because there's another rebel leader,
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Speaker 2: chin Ja. Upon hearing the news that Tensen has been defeated,
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Speaker 2: he somehow was able to find a descendant of the
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Speaker 2: two ruling house, Uh Jingjrii, and he made Jingjri the
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Speaker 2: acting King of two because at that time, nobody was
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Speaker 2: sure whether Tensen died or not. Everybody knew Tensen was defeated,
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Speaker 2: so he wasn't sure if Tensen is dead, so he
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Speaker 2: just made Jinji acting King of two. And and and
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Speaker 2: because he has a quite powerful force, at least compared
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Speaker 2: to Ubang, Lubang decides to you know, go subwording himself
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Speaker 2: to to c Cinja and Jindri's forces. And when when
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Speaker 2: Yubang arrived and Uh on the way to join Cinja
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Speaker 2: and Jinjui, Ubang met a person that would.
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Speaker 3: Change his life. Uh. That that is Zangdiang. Uh.
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Speaker 2: The last time we met Zangian was when he ploted
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Speaker 2: assassination against the first import at Bolangsa. Zangyang being a
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Speaker 2: descendant of a general his his family has served as
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Speaker 2: the prime minister of the Han State for generations and
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Speaker 2: his aim has always been to restore the Han state.
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Speaker 2: You know, initially he chose political assassination. Uh, but that
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Speaker 2: that attempt failed at Bolangsa, and afterwards Zangyang changed his
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Speaker 2: name and hide out as Shape. And the story goes
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Speaker 2: that one one day Zangyang was walk about his saw.
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Speaker 2: He was coming across a bridge and he saw an
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Speaker 2: old man sitting at the foot of the bridge. And
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Speaker 2: when the old man saw down young approach, the old
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Speaker 2: man just start kicking his shoes into the into the
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Speaker 2: river and told Towny Young, hey, young man, can you
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Speaker 2: cook get my shoe for me? And Donny I was
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Speaker 2: taking a bag. It's like you just did that deliberately.
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Speaker 2: But Tony I thought, okay, well whatever it's an old man,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'll humor him. So he went to the river,
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Speaker 2: got the shoe and handed to the old man and
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Speaker 2: the old man says, oh, thank you, can you put
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Speaker 2: it on for me. Well Tony decided to swallow his pride.
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Speaker 2: He said, okay, well I already, let me just take
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Speaker 2: the last step. So so he put the shoe on
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Speaker 2: on the old man. So the old man was impressed.
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Speaker 2: He said, oh, okay, you you know, he said, you you,
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Speaker 2: I can't see you.
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Speaker 3: You can be trained.
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Speaker 2: Come back here me me here five days later at
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Speaker 2: the crack of don and I will have something to
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Speaker 2: teach you. So downy young got curious, so he came
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Speaker 2: back five days later at crack of dong, but the
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Speaker 2: old man was already at the bridge and he's like,
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Speaker 2: young man, how cow do you make an old man
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Speaker 2: wait for you? This is unacceptable. Come back another five
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Speaker 2: days and then old man just took off. So so
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Speaker 2: this really sparked down there on curiosity. So next time
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Speaker 2: he waited when the cocks start, the roosters start to crow,
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Speaker 2: and then he went to the bridge, but the old
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Speaker 2: man was already there again. Again the old man was pissed.
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Speaker 2: He said, you know, you don't show sincerity.
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Speaker 3: You know, he didn't.
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Speaker 2: You didn't come earlier enough, you know, come back another
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Speaker 2: five days. So the next time downy and said, okay,
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Speaker 2: screw it, I'll just I'll just go camp out at
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Speaker 2: like two or three o'clock in the morning, you know,
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Speaker 2: when he's still dark. And this time he waited the
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Speaker 2: old man, and the old man was very impressed with him.
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Speaker 2: And old man handed him a book, an art of
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Speaker 2: war book. It's called Taygon Binpha. Supposedly it's the Art
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Speaker 2: of War by the founder of Cheese Steak, Jung Tygon.
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Speaker 2: But I think this might be a mistake by the
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Speaker 2: later people. I think or the book is probably just
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Speaker 2: Tygon Binfha as the Art of War by the old man, right,
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Speaker 2: but because the Taigon people associated the most famous Tygon,
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Speaker 2: which is Young Taygoon, the founder of cheese Steak. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: so the old man says, okay, you, if you learn
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Speaker 2: this book by heart, you will be you will be
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Speaker 2: the advisor.
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Speaker 3: To two kings.
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Speaker 2: And in thirteen years, come look for me at this place.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you see yet a giant yellowstone, that
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Speaker 2: would be me.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And the story goes. After thirteen years, the Jong Young
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Speaker 2: did go to that place that old man pointed out,
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Speaker 2: and he did find a giant yellow stone, and he
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Speaker 2: had people carved off the giant yellow stone back to
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Speaker 2: his residence. And when Zangiang died, his descendant buried Zangian
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Speaker 2: together with this giant yellow stone.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is kind of.
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Speaker 2: Almost like a mythical story, but the but the gist
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Speaker 2: of the story is Zangiang. After his fail assassination, he
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Speaker 2: devoted himself to study strategies and he decided a different
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Speaker 2: way to overthrow the Qin dynasty. When so nine years
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Speaker 2: passed after his fail assassination attempt, when Tensen raised the
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Speaker 2: banner of rebellion against Chin dynasty, Zanghang thought, okay, this
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Speaker 2: is my chance. So he decided to raise buncho youth
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Speaker 2: who would follow him to restore the Hunt state. But
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Speaker 2: he was only able to gather less than one hundred people. Know,
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Speaker 2: I guess he doesn't have the same kind of charisma
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Speaker 2: like Leobun does.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: So he thought, okay, well, I need to attach myself
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Speaker 2: to a larger rebel force. And this is when he
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Speaker 2: heard Chinja had made Jinjui the new acting king of true.
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Speaker 2: So he was on the way to join Jinju as
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Speaker 2: well when he met the Ubang on the way, and
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Speaker 2: these two, since they're going together, they start to like
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Speaker 2: they had many talks along the way, and suddenly I've
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Speaker 2: never found a person who could understand him. When he
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Speaker 2: talked about the art of war, you know, before he
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Speaker 2: tried to share what he learned, but people don't get it.
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Speaker 2: But the Ubung was very sharp and perceptive, perceptive often
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Speaker 2: like as soon as someding I told him, Nubum would
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Speaker 2: just get it, just like that. So these two quickly
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Speaker 2: hit it off. And Yubum also come to appreciate some
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Speaker 2: talent and he's like, okay, well why don't you join me?
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Speaker 2: You know we're going the same way, but why don't
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Speaker 2: you join me? And and and Zadie. I'm also appreciative, like
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Speaker 2: here's the person who finally gets him. So they first
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Speaker 2: Uh start to become a team, and then they went
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Speaker 2: to join Gingy. Gingri granted them additional man to attack Fun.
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Speaker 2: But at this juncture, the Empire struck back. The Chin
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Speaker 2: General Zanghan has led Uh a large army to to
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Speaker 2: come attack the rebel forces. So the Obang and Uh
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Speaker 2: and together with Gingre's men, they have to come to
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Speaker 2: meet the Uh. To come to meet this Uh, this
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Speaker 2: Chin forces. The Chin forces came very quickly. The first
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Speaker 2: a capture a city called Shun, thoroughly sacked it and
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Speaker 2: they arrived at the city of Dung. So the Obang
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Speaker 2: and another commander from Gingreics forces, they they they to
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Speaker 2: meet the the Chin forces at Dung, but they they
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Speaker 2: were defeated. So the Ubang gathered all the all the
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Speaker 2: all the men who who were retreating and then he
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Speaker 2: attacked the city of Dong again. And this time he
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Speaker 2: was able to take the city of Dung after three days.
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Speaker 2: And and he furthermore he was able to recruit another
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Speaker 2: five thousand men with with this new additional forces, Uh
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Speaker 2: Dubang to attacks the city of shah They took the
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Speaker 2: city of shah Yi. So now the Ubang feels confident
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Speaker 2: that he can take back the city of Fun from
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Speaker 2: the trader Yun. So he went to attack the city
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Speaker 2: of Funk again again. He was Jun was a capable
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Speaker 2: defender apparently because he couldn't take it.
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Speaker 3: And and at.
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Speaker 2: This point Uh, when when Ubang was deciding what to do,
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Speaker 2: the news came that his new masters. The king to
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Speaker 2: King Jinju was defeated, but not by the Qing dynasty
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Speaker 2: forces but by another rebel force led by Hiang Yang.
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Speaker 2: So what happened was uh last time with uh Uh
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Speaker 2: with one of the Tensens, General Saupin, who was tasked
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Speaker 2: to take Guangding or present day yang so he wasn't
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Speaker 2: able to take Gwandin. When he finally heard the news
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Speaker 2: Tensen was defeated, so he also heard that shiang Yang
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Speaker 2: has now controlled all of the lower yang the delta
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Speaker 2: area east of the river uh or east of the
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Speaker 2: river or south of the yangs River. So Saupin crossed
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Speaker 2: the river in secret and.
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Speaker 3: He forged and let in. He forged a royal.
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Speaker 2: Decree from King Tensen to appoint Shangan as sung Zugu,
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Speaker 2: which is just one rank below the prime minister, and
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Speaker 2: then ordered shang Yang to lead his forces to cross
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Speaker 2: the Yangsu River north to attack the Chin forces. So
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Speaker 2: Hiangyan then took eight thousand elite troops that he trained
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Speaker 2: from the lower yang Za Delta area across the Yangsu River,
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Speaker 2: where he was soon joined by other rebel forces like
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Speaker 2: that of Tanjing. You know, Tanying had twenty thousand men
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Speaker 2: at but Tanyin did not want to be king, so
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Speaker 2: he joined Shiangyang, and Shangyan had other people join and
23:35
Speaker 2: pretty soon Shayan had about seventy thousand men under his banners.
23:40
Speaker 2: So he keep on marching north. He came to the
23:44
Speaker 2: place called Shaki, and at that time Chinja and the
23:50
Speaker 2: acting king are no longer acting king because Shinja already
23:53
Speaker 2: received confirmation that Tensen was dead dead so he made
23:57
Speaker 2: so at that time he declared Jinju the not acting
24:02
Speaker 2: king anymore, but the real king of two and they
24:06
Speaker 2: have been camping out at punk Tan. Punk Tung is
24:09
Speaker 2: a present day street, so a very strategic city and
24:13
Speaker 2: there are poised to counteract Pack. They send out a
24:18
Speaker 2: messenger to Uh stated Chi asked Chi to ally with
24:23
Speaker 2: them to resist the Chin forces. But we talk about
24:26
Speaker 2: their their envoid gonsun Chin decide to be a debate
24:30
Speaker 2: bro and when he was questioned why chin Ja made
24:35
Speaker 2: Jinji the king without permission of Chi uh gunsun Chin said, well,
24:40
Speaker 2: you made yourself the king of Chi and didn't ask
24:43
Speaker 2: us for permission, and besides the state of too Tensen
24:47
Speaker 2: was the first to raise the banner of rebellion. You
24:49
Speaker 2: guys should subordinate yourself to stated. Two you know, for
24:54
Speaker 2: that Gonsun Chin lost his head and the chi didn't
24:58
Speaker 2: send any reinforcement.
24:59
Speaker 3: Uh.
25:00
Speaker 2: At this time, c Cinja and Jingjri heard that Shang
25:04
Speaker 2: Yang's forces approaching, so that made them very nervous. Shang
25:08
Speaker 2: Yang is still fighting officially under the banner of ten
25:12
Speaker 2: Sen because he was remembered he was with the title
25:15
Speaker 2: of Sanzuu and now he's the highest ranking officer officially
25:21
Speaker 2: under in ten Sens forces. And the chiang Yan did
25:27
Speaker 2: not plan to recognize Gingri status the true king for
25:31
Speaker 2: many reasons. One, shiang Yang's own status right now come
25:35
Speaker 2: from the fake more royal appointment from ten Sen right
25:39
Speaker 2: his tensays. And two, uh, you know, if he submit
25:43
Speaker 2: to Jinju's authority, that just make him, you know, one
25:47
Speaker 2: of many generals of Jinji. He he probably you know,
25:52
Speaker 2: rather have appoint his own puppet. You know, he may
25:56
Speaker 2: or may not know Tensens is dead at this time,
25:58
Speaker 2: So so Xiao Yang mobilized the troops and give him
26:01
Speaker 2: a talk. Is that King Hensen raised a banner of
26:05
Speaker 2: rebellion first at the first setback. At this point, we
26:09
Speaker 2: don't know whether King Heensen is dead or alive. Cinja
26:14
Speaker 2: has prop up another king without consultation.
26:19
Speaker 3: This is treason.
26:20
Speaker 2: We should all punish the trader. So then he led
26:24
Speaker 2: his forces to attack Cinja and Cinja was defeated. Uh,
26:29
Speaker 2: and he planned to run away, but Shanglyyan didn't decide
26:33
Speaker 2: to give him a chance. So within ten days shangyan
26:35
Speaker 2: An attack again. This time he defeated Cinja. Cinja was
26:38
Speaker 2: killed and the king Jindri has fled to the way state.
26:44
Speaker 2: And now the news trap. Now Changnan had finally received
26:49
Speaker 2: confirmation that Tensen is truly dead, so he decided to call.
26:54
Speaker 2: He sent out invitation to all the rebel forces in
26:57
Speaker 2: the surrounding area to hold a lion's meeting to decide
27:02
Speaker 2: what to do next. And the Obam also received the
27:10
Speaker 2: invitation from shang Dyang. So so the obam thought, okay, well,
27:16
Speaker 2: just another guy I have to attach myself to, no problem.
27:19
Speaker 3: So he went to went to Uh.
27:22
Speaker 2: He went to the meeting and and during this meeting, Uh,
27:27
Speaker 2: there's an old man named Funds. Then Funds then is Uh.
27:31
Speaker 2: At this time he was already seventy years old.
27:34
Speaker 3: Uh.
27:34
Speaker 2: He was kind of living as a hermit during the
27:38
Speaker 2: Chin conquest. But now with everybody in rebellion, he decided
27:42
Speaker 2: to uh you know, come, uh you know, make his
27:47
Speaker 2: make his make his name known. So he he he
27:50
Speaker 2: spoke up during this meeting, he said he intensens defeat
27:54
Speaker 2: was inevitable. The Chin destroyed the six states, and out
27:58
Speaker 2: of all the six states, State of two was the
28:01
Speaker 2: most innocent because the King Hui of two was trusting
28:07
Speaker 2: that he went to the stated Chin to sign a
28:10
Speaker 2: peace treaty, but he was held against his will and
28:14
Speaker 2: never returned. So the State of two, the people of
28:18
Speaker 2: chos pity him, pity his fate, and still remember him
28:22
Speaker 2: to this day. So this is why the Sage of
28:29
Speaker 2: two have famously made the prophecy. Even though the two
28:34
Speaker 2: may be reduced to three household, it will be the
28:37
Speaker 2: State of two that destroyed the stated Chen. Now three
28:41
Speaker 2: household actually refers to the three big noble family of two.
28:47
Speaker 2: The tree Gen and Sao tree is like is a
28:53
Speaker 2: family of the famous poetry un For example, Jingji, the
28:59
Speaker 2: guy that was king, belonged to one of those noble family.
29:03
Speaker 2: So the idea is as long as the nobility, noble
29:07
Speaker 2: family of status, who unite together, they can vanquish the
29:11
Speaker 2: stated chain and and because then the funds then continue.
29:17
Speaker 2: So now after the uh Hensen raised the banner of rebellion,
29:23
Speaker 2: he denied establish a descendant of the House of Tu
29:26
Speaker 2: as a ruler and instead declare himself king. This is
29:30
Speaker 2: why his power did not last long. Now you shang
29:34
Speaker 2: Dyang have rised, have risen in jiang Dong. Jiang Dong
29:39
Speaker 2: means the land east of the river a k a.
29:44
Speaker 2: The lower yangs Delta. So so the Yangser River. When
29:48
Speaker 2: at the point where approached the sea, Uh, there's a
29:52
Speaker 2: section of Yangser River. Instead of go west to east,
29:55
Speaker 2: he goes from south to north. So that that's why
29:59
Speaker 2: the plan south of the river jiang Na, and sometimes
30:02
Speaker 2: it's also referred as jiang Dong or the land east
30:05
Speaker 2: of the river. Anyway, it just applied to the whole
30:08
Speaker 2: lower yang Za Delta area. So he said, now you
30:12
Speaker 2: shang Nyang, have risen in jiang Dong, in the lower
30:14
Speaker 2: yang Za Delta. The former general generals of Chu are
30:18
Speaker 2: all vying to submit to you, because your family has
30:22
Speaker 2: long been military clan of too capable of restoring the
30:27
Speaker 2: descendants of the House of Chu. So shang Yang took
30:34
Speaker 2: this advice, and he sent out people to look for
30:38
Speaker 2: uh descendant of the royal House of Chu. And they
30:42
Speaker 2: found this twelve year old cowherd. And this is a
30:48
Speaker 2: perfect candidate, you know, first of all, a cowhard you know,
30:52
Speaker 2: with no background and a twelve year old so perfect
30:57
Speaker 2: to serve as a puppet for shangni So Shannyan can
31:00
Speaker 2: main as a power be behind the throne. And so
31:03
Speaker 2: they made they made this this twelve year old boy
31:07
Speaker 2: Sin was made the new king, and they call him
31:11
Speaker 2: King Huai to commemorate the original King Hui of two
31:16
Speaker 2: who was detained as a hostage by the King of Qing.
31:21
Speaker 2: And and shang Nyang made himself the Lord of shin
31:26
Speaker 2: Uh to command the to command the army. Now at
31:31
Speaker 2: at at this particular juncture, Uh Niubang shows up and
31:37
Speaker 2: he asked for again he he he pledged allegiance to
31:42
Speaker 2: Shiang Nyang and and he asked for Shang Yang's help
31:47
Speaker 2: to take back his headquarters fun So shan Nyang gave
31:50
Speaker 2: him five thousand men together with five generals, and with
31:55
Speaker 2: this new army, Niubang was able to attack the city
32:00
Speaker 2: of Fund the third time, and this time he was
32:03
Speaker 2: able to overcome it and Yuns had to run away
32:07
Speaker 2: to the state away. Now eventually Uh that's much later,
32:13
Speaker 2: Juns I had nowhere to go he he Uh again
32:19
Speaker 2: decided to surrender to the Ubank. Now Yubuk hated his
32:22
Speaker 2: guts right hate the most for almost upstaging him Uh
32:30
Speaker 2: taking back his uh To took his headquarter and defected.
32:34
Speaker 2: So Yuba wanted to kill Juns. But at that time
32:37
Speaker 2: there was another guy Wandin who who submit to Lubang earlier,
32:43
Speaker 2: who is a friend of Junks and told Uban, look,
32:47
Speaker 2: this is the time you want to make an example.
32:50
Speaker 2: If you can spare, then people know that you have mercy,
32:55
Speaker 2: that they can't trust themselves to surrender to you and
32:59
Speaker 2: not lose their head. So it is your chance to
33:02
Speaker 2: to to demonstrate to all under heaven that you are magnanimous.
33:07
Speaker 2: So then you then Dubang you know, swallow his pride,
33:13
Speaker 2: bit his tongue and eventually granted Yuns a commander position.
33:20
Speaker 2: So after the establishment of the Han dynasty, Jun actually
33:24
Speaker 2: was made into a marquee and.
33:26
Speaker 3: He is the thief.
33:28
Speaker 2: He received is about fifty kilometers west of present day
33:32
Speaker 2: city of Tendu and This shows a sharp contrast by
33:39
Speaker 2: the way to the second Chin Imperor Huhai because Tensen's
33:45
Speaker 2: army was defeated. You know, Tensen originally he sent three
33:49
Speaker 2: forces to attack state a chain, so when to attack
33:53
Speaker 2: the Chin harland directly? Uh Wu Guang to attack the
33:59
Speaker 2: city of Chinyng where the Chin Chin Dynasty granary is located.
34:04
Speaker 2: And the surf force of song Yo to take the
34:07
Speaker 2: old heartland of nine Young Basin and through nine Young
34:11
Speaker 2: Basin through the Wool Pass to attack the Chin heartland
34:16
Speaker 2: through the back door. So so Yo initially made headway
34:21
Speaker 2: by capturing the Nine Young Basin, but then the news
34:24
Speaker 2: travels that Tensen has been defeated, so uh so nine
34:30
Speaker 2: Young Basin rebelled, you know what reverted back to the
34:33
Speaker 2: Chin control that the people rebelled against the son Yo
34:37
Speaker 2: and son yoa was kind of got caught between nine
34:41
Speaker 2: Young which cut off his retreat. And still the pass
34:46
Speaker 2: of Guan, who he had has not managed to overcome.
34:49
Speaker 2: So he decided to surrender to the Qin dynasty. But
34:54
Speaker 2: what the Chin import who I decide to do is
34:58
Speaker 2: to have son Yo escor to the Chin capital and
35:02
Speaker 2: have him publicly drawn and quartered and send his like
35:06
Speaker 2: the piece of his body to all full corner of
35:09
Speaker 2: the rum to serve as example of rebellion. But when
35:15
Speaker 2: he did that, nobody's gonna surrender anymore to the chain forces.
35:22
Speaker 2: Like people saw what happened to some yo. Now now
35:25
Speaker 2: they're rather like either run away or fight to the death. Uh,
35:30
Speaker 2: you know they can Surrender is no longer an option now.
35:35
Speaker 1: I think this is the advice given to Lilpong. Technically
35:39
Speaker 1: is a bit faulty here because Lillpong only controls two
35:43
Speaker 1: cities at this time, there's not that many senior people
35:47
Speaker 1: who can betray him.
35:49
Speaker 2: Right, Well, what we're.
35:51
Speaker 3: Right now, right.
35:53
Speaker 2: Went back to yupa much much later, not at this
35:57
Speaker 2: juncture when Nuba was more powerful.
35:59
Speaker 3: That's when you went back.
36:01
Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, But the ob how the grudge.
36:05
Speaker 2: You know, this is a guy who how the grudge
36:08
Speaker 2: against his own sister in law for scraping the bottom
36:11
Speaker 2: of the pan, right, and so he wanted to kill you.
36:16
Speaker 2: But at that time his advisor want he said, like,
36:20
Speaker 2: this is a time for you to show magnetic.
36:23
Speaker 1: That makes more sense because by that time he's basically emperor.
36:28
Speaker 2: Well, well, on the not not yet, but at that
36:31
Speaker 2: time he was much more powerful than he is now.
36:34
Speaker 2: So anyway, and and uh, so the Chin commander Zanghan
36:40
Speaker 2: at this point he already broke He thought, he already
36:44
Speaker 2: broke the back of the zung Chu regime, of the
36:48
Speaker 2: the tensions zung Chu regime. So he decided to let
36:53
Speaker 2: his army north to attack the Waste State, and he
36:59
Speaker 2: surrounded the Way capital at Dingji, and the Way Prime
37:03
Speaker 2: ministered so Fu then send out a messenger to the
37:07
Speaker 2: Chi State and the new newly constituted True State to
37:13
Speaker 2: ask for help. And shiang Yang then send one of
37:16
Speaker 2: his uh send the general shang Tu to lead the
37:21
Speaker 2: True army to rescue of Wai. Shang Tu is the
37:25
Speaker 2: son of a cousin of shang Yui, So what what
37:30
Speaker 2: would make him? He would be like a song of
37:33
Speaker 2: a nephew of shang Yong.
37:36
Speaker 3: I don't know what the term it is.
37:38
Speaker 1: I thought, it's also kind of nephew, but I may
37:41
Speaker 1: be wrong. Song of your nephew is also nephew, that's
37:45
Speaker 1: my question. But okay, But anyway, so so uh, because
37:49
Speaker 1: he will be a nephew of Shiang Yui, and Shangui
37:52
Speaker 1: is a nephew of shang Yo. But anyways, and he
37:56
Speaker 1: also sent a messenger to the Chi state. At this time,
37:59
Speaker 1: the she stayed responded because all these Uh, these rebel leaders,
38:05
Speaker 1: now they have learned the lessons from the war in
38:08
Speaker 1: States period that you have to band together.
38:12
Speaker 2: To resist the chain forces. So the Chi king personally
38:18
Speaker 2: led the Chi Chi army to come to the rescue
38:22
Speaker 2: of the Way capital. And and so now you have
38:27
Speaker 2: three forces. There's a force of Chi Way and two
38:32
Speaker 2: get all met the main forces of Chin beneath the
38:38
Speaker 2: wall of the Way Capital dn G. Now Sunghan was
38:43
Speaker 2: surprised by this uh, the size and ferocity of the resistance,
38:50
Speaker 2: because the two side fought for three days without the
38:55
Speaker 2: without decisive results. And then some Hun decide, okay, you
38:59
Speaker 2: know what, I'll play a trick. I will pretend I'm retreating.
39:03
Speaker 2: And and so while the three sides thought they have
39:08
Speaker 2: just won a victory repelled the Chin attack, Zanghan ordered
39:13
Speaker 2: his forces to feast at night, and and then that
39:19
Speaker 2: the launched a surprise night attack and they fell on
39:23
Speaker 2: the camp of the three armies and decisively crushed the rebels.
39:27
Speaker 2: And in this fight they killed the King of Chidan
39:32
Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister of Wai stayed uh So so
39:36
Speaker 2: Fu and the true General shangtur uh So. It was
39:40
Speaker 2: a great defeat and the King Wait Joe saw that
39:45
Speaker 2: all was lost inside the city. He decided to surrender
39:50
Speaker 2: with the condition that the life of the Uh life
39:54
Speaker 2: of the people in the capital will be spared. And
39:58
Speaker 2: then who himself he as part of this uh pact
40:04
Speaker 2: that he made with the Chin general Sanghang, he killed.
40:07
Speaker 2: He burned himself to death, but his his younger brother
40:12
Speaker 2: way about escaped back to the camp of Chiangyan to
40:16
Speaker 2: tell Shangyaan what happened, and.
40:19
Speaker 3: The the the.
40:21
Speaker 2: Younger brother of the Chi king, uh Tiendan Chienzong. He
40:26
Speaker 2: led the remnant of chief forces to escape back into
40:30
Speaker 2: the Chi territory on a border tongue called Don Dona,
40:35
Speaker 2: and Sanghan then led the Chin forces to pursue him
40:39
Speaker 2: and besiege him in the remnant of chief forces at Donna.
40:44
Speaker 2: So Chien don't send messenger messengers to Shiangyan ask for help,
40:49
Speaker 2: and Shiang Yang immediately organized his all his forces to
40:54
Speaker 2: rush to to to Dona to relieve the siege. And
40:59
Speaker 2: at this point Shand's forces had just fought a hard
41:03
Speaker 2: won battle. Uh like his his forces are basically and
41:08
Speaker 2: after a forced march trying to catch up with the
41:12
Speaker 2: Chip remnant forces, the Chin forces was early tired, but
41:16
Speaker 2: the Shang L'an forces were still fresh. So Hia N'an's
41:19
Speaker 2: forces were I was able to surprise Sun Hinds forces
41:24
Speaker 2: beneath the walls of Dona and dealt decisive defeat to
41:30
Speaker 2: the Chin forces. The Chin forces collapsed and then then
41:34
Speaker 2: some Uh. Then Shang Nyang led in hot pursuit. They
41:40
Speaker 2: surrounded Sanghan at a place called pu Yang and but
41:46
Speaker 2: the Sanghan then decide to dig through the dykes of
41:52
Speaker 2: the Yellow River and he he created emergency mode around
41:57
Speaker 2: the around the city by diverting the waters the red
42:01
Speaker 2: Yellow River. And to help him, Uh, you know that
42:05
Speaker 2: heaven opened up and there was a torrential reign. So
42:11
Speaker 2: the area around the poor young city all become very
42:16
Speaker 2: muddy and so so Chang Yang decided to give up
42:21
Speaker 2: on the siege of Puyang two Uh to attack the
42:26
Speaker 2: Chin forces in other cities. But he wanted in the
42:32
Speaker 2: meantime Tienzo the force the chief forces that was besieged
42:38
Speaker 2: by in Donga. He he was able to return to
42:43
Speaker 2: the Stated She. But to his surprise, when he returned
42:46
Speaker 2: back to the Stated She, he realized Stated She already
42:51
Speaker 2: had a new king because the Chin nobility they propped
42:55
Speaker 2: up the the younger brother of the last King of
43:01
Speaker 2: not the new king that was killed in battle, the
43:05
Speaker 2: last King of Chi as the king that was vanquished
43:08
Speaker 2: by the Stated Ching. You know, at the end of
43:11
Speaker 2: the Warring States period, the Tendo was very angry because
43:15
Speaker 2: he felt like, look, my brother just gave up his life.
43:19
Speaker 2: You know, if you want to make a new king,
43:21
Speaker 2: I should be the king, or at least you should
43:23
Speaker 2: consult me about who should be the king. And so
43:27
Speaker 2: he was very angry. So he he decided to attack
43:32
Speaker 2: led his army to attack this new king. So the
43:35
Speaker 2: new King of of of Chi and his prime minister
43:42
Speaker 2: wasn't able to resist, so they fled to shang Yang's camp,
43:46
Speaker 2: and another Chi general fled to the Zaou state. Oh no,
43:51
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The King of Chief fled to shang Yuan's camp.
43:56
Speaker 2: The prime minister of Chi and another general Chief fled
43:59
Speaker 2: to the Tao state. And and at this time the
44:04
Speaker 2: letter arrived from shang Yang asks Stated Chi to send
44:08
Speaker 2: reinforcement to help him to wipe out the Chin main
44:13
Speaker 2: forces once for all, because Zanghang was holding up in
44:17
Speaker 2: Puyang with pretty strong defenses. So Kien zone now. He
44:22
Speaker 2: first he propped up his brother's son as a new king.
44:28
Speaker 2: His brother was was Kien done the king that was killed?
44:31
Speaker 2: So he made his brothers Sung the new king and
44:34
Speaker 2: himself as the new Chi Prime Minister. And she issued
44:39
Speaker 2: a demand to the Tzao state and the True state.
44:42
Speaker 2: He said, if you kill the if you kill the
44:45
Speaker 2: false King of Chi and the false Prime Minister and
44:47
Speaker 2: the false General, send them, send me their heads. I
44:51
Speaker 2: will then lead the army of Chi to join you
44:54
Speaker 2: to attack the stated Chip. But Hiang Nyang, both Shang
44:59
Speaker 2: Yang and the Tao king decided, you know, these these
45:03
Speaker 2: guys came to join us. If I killed them, you know,
45:07
Speaker 2: it shows you know, I'm not trustworthy. You know, I'd
45:11
Speaker 2: rather not do that.
45:12
Speaker 1: And I think it's also kind of ungrateful from this
45:15
Speaker 1: see king because his ass was just.
45:18
Speaker 3: Saved by right.
45:20
Speaker 1: Yes, now he's making these demands.
45:24
Speaker 2: But chiang Yang also thought that he could reject the
45:28
Speaker 2: demand because he already had the Chin forces on the rock.
45:31
Speaker 2: Right that the table has turned. So Cha Yan just
45:35
Speaker 2: ignored the demand and the the new the Chen don't decide.
45:40
Speaker 2: You know what, then fine, then I'm not gonna send
45:43
Speaker 2: any Uh. I'm not gonna send any forces to to you.
45:49
Speaker 2: So shang Yang then send his brother, send his nephew
45:55
Speaker 2: shang Ui too to attack the city of Shiang and
46:01
Speaker 2: the city of Chiang. For some reason, they couldn't Uh.
46:07
Speaker 2: City of shang resisted. UH resisted the attack for many days.
46:13
Speaker 2: So finally when Shangu took the city, he decided to
46:16
Speaker 2: kill everyone, you know.
46:17
Speaker 4: Old and young and and and then you know, Shangu
46:25
Speaker 4: is gonna, you know, have a reputation about about massacring
46:30
Speaker 4: cities the UH.
46:32
Speaker 2: And then later Uh Hiang Yang send Uh, Dubang and
46:37
Speaker 2: Shang Yui to attack ten Yang again. They they took
46:41
Speaker 2: ten Yang and sacked it and and.
46:44
Speaker 3: They they UH.
46:47
Speaker 2: Then then Dubang and shang Jui Uh went to attack
46:52
Speaker 2: the city of Diantal, but they couldn't they couldn't take Uh.
46:55
Speaker 2: They couldn't take the Diantal. So they decide to march
46:59
Speaker 2: west to to a place called yung Chi. At yung Cho,
47:04
Speaker 2: they deal a decisive defeat to the Chin forces and
47:09
Speaker 2: to kill the Chin commander, who is none other than
47:14
Speaker 2: the eldest son of Chin Prime Ministers Minister Lees So
47:19
Speaker 2: the governor of of san Chuan Prefecture, Leo Uh was
47:26
Speaker 2: killed by in battle by hiang Yu and the Yubaan's forces.
47:30
Speaker 2: And and shiang Yang himself decided to attack Diing Tao
47:35
Speaker 2: again and he was able to take it. Now Diing
47:37
Speaker 2: Tao is Diing taal was also known as Tao uh This,
47:43
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, it was one of the wealthiest
47:46
Speaker 2: city uh uh because it sits on the trade route.
47:51
Speaker 2: The canal that the King of Whoop had built back
47:56
Speaker 2: in the Spring Autumn period passed through the of Tao.
48:01
Speaker 2: So Tao is now later became called Dingtao means pacifying Tao.
48:08
Speaker 2: So ting Tao was so rich that the Qin Prime
48:12
Speaker 2: Minister Waison wanted to be his personal fief.
48:17
Speaker 3: Uh.
48:18
Speaker 2: And and now now that this is one of the
48:21
Speaker 2: biggest cities that shang Yan's forces have captured. Now shag
48:25
Speaker 2: nyans had the stream of victory under his belt. Uh,
48:30
Speaker 2: Now he's gonna have the same issue of hubris that
48:35
Speaker 2: once infected Tencent.
48:37
Speaker 3: You know, because.
48:38
Speaker 2: Shang shang Yan feel like Okay, I got everything. I'm
48:42
Speaker 2: I'm winning the Qin forces on the wrong and he's
48:46
Speaker 2: starting to let all these string of victories get to
48:49
Speaker 2: his head. And at this point, Uh, there's a there's a.
48:54
Speaker 3: Person called song Yi. Soun Yi used to.
48:57
Speaker 2: Be a officer in the He used to be an
49:01
Speaker 2: officer in the True state, uh before it was vanquished
49:05
Speaker 2: by the State ad Ching. And when Tensen raised a rebellion,
49:10
Speaker 2: so he joined joined the rebellion. And now he uh
49:14
Speaker 2: he joined Shiangyan's army. So he he sent advice to Shangya.
49:18
Speaker 2: He tried to warn about Shangyan. He's like, look uh
49:23
Speaker 2: uh he said. He said, victory breathes complacency. When a
49:30
Speaker 2: general becomes arrogant and soldier becomes idle, defeat follows. Now,
49:35
Speaker 2: our troops are already showing the signs of slack slackness,
49:40
Speaker 2: while the Chin forces grow stronger by day. I fear
49:44
Speaker 2: for you, my lord. Shangyan, you know, was too drunk
49:48
Speaker 2: on victory to lessen. So instead he decided to send
49:53
Speaker 2: so Ye so Ye away as an envoy to the
49:56
Speaker 2: stated she, uh because you know, to ask she to
50:00
Speaker 2: send reinforcement and on the way.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Soon he actually encountered uh. Uh. Lord Gouding, who who
50:11
Speaker 2: is acting as an envoyd of stated she and so
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Speaker 2: soon you told told Lord Gouding, he said, Uh, are
50:18
Speaker 2: you on your way to see Lordlin Shang Yang? And
50:23
Speaker 2: Lord Goudin said yes, and then and and and soon
50:28
Speaker 2: he told him. He's like, I look, I think Shang
50:31
Speaker 2: Yang's army is going to be defeated soon. If you
50:34
Speaker 2: want to see him, make sure you proceed slowly. That
50:38
Speaker 2: way you may escape that if you hurry, you you
50:42
Speaker 2: might walk into disaster. And so while you know Shang
50:49
Speaker 2: Yang's forcers are still feasting in the city of Tintal,
50:52
Speaker 2: the the Emperor Huhai has sent a lot of reinforcement
50:57
Speaker 2: to Zanghan. So now Zanghan is Uh is mobilizing in
51:03
Speaker 2: for enforced full strength. So he decided to sneak a
51:10
Speaker 2: march on the true army. And he fell upon the
51:14
Speaker 2: Shangyan's forces Dimtal at night, and and this time caught
51:19
Speaker 2: Shang Yang completely by surprise, and Shang Yang was killed.
51:24
Speaker 2: M Now at this time, Uh, the Obang and Shang
51:29
Speaker 2: there are still they just took uh. They they just
51:34
Speaker 2: went to attack the city of wai Huang, and they couldn't.
51:37
Speaker 2: They couldn't take it, so they went to they went
51:40
Speaker 2: to attack the city of Xenio and the states the
51:43
Speaker 2: city defender also held it strongly so they couldn't be captured.
51:48
Speaker 2: And then the news reached them that Shangyan has been killed.
51:51
Speaker 2: So they did hold the emergency meeting and they say, look, uh,
51:55
Speaker 2: now General Shangyan's forces has been defeated. Our soldiers are front,
52:00
Speaker 2: so let's uh, let's gather our forces. Let's gather our
52:05
Speaker 2: forces as much as we can. And so they they
52:09
Speaker 2: joined with the due tense troops to withdraw eastward and
52:15
Speaker 2: and they went to they went to the city of
52:18
Speaker 2: punk Ten, the the so so they decide, you know,
52:25
Speaker 2: at this point, there's nobody really have the kind of
52:27
Speaker 2: prestige and statue of Shanglian to hold everything together. So
52:31
Speaker 2: they decide to send for the king, the public king
52:35
Speaker 2: that shang has installed before. So they moved the king
52:39
Speaker 2: Hwai of to to punk Tin to make puntin the
52:43
Speaker 2: new capital, to kind of to raise the.
52:47
Speaker 3: Army morale.
52:49
Speaker 2: But right now the thirteen and certain now now the
52:54
Speaker 2: kid is thirteen year olds one year past. Now the
52:56
Speaker 2: thirteen year old kids suddenly moved in Uh to re
53:02
Speaker 2: arrange things. Now, before he was a puppet of shangy
53:05
Speaker 2: you know, like Hiangyan was the one calling the shots.
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Speaker 2: But but but h. But now the certain year old kid,
53:13
Speaker 2: he he call up all the general he combined the
53:17
Speaker 2: troops of the Obang, Shang and its Hen, and he
53:20
Speaker 2: made himself directly in command of these forces. And then
53:25
Speaker 2: he start to appoint duits Hen as a as a
53:31
Speaker 2: prime minister. And he he appointed uh the Obang as
53:36
Speaker 2: a marquee, and and and and granted him uh Uh
53:41
Speaker 2: a command of a portion of the army. And and
53:46
Speaker 2: then he gave uh Uh. He gave Shang also a
53:51
Speaker 2: title of marquis. But he kind of you know, he
53:55
Speaker 2: did not give Shangi the full command of Shangnian's former
53:59
Speaker 2: four this so now he made sure all the all
54:02
Speaker 2: the forces are evenly distributed now between us and Yubang
54:07
Speaker 2: and Shangi with him assuming the full king kingship. Now
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Speaker 2: now he's he's really calling the shots now at the.
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Speaker 1: Point, this thirteen year old has some like smart advisers
54:21
Speaker 1: helping him at this moment. And this is one of
54:25
Speaker 1: the another one of these like haven't sent opportunities for
54:28
Speaker 1: Liobom because he joins this rebel coalition as the commander
54:33
Speaker 1: of really just a few thousand men, and now he
54:36
Speaker 1: has become he's been elevated to being like on par
54:39
Speaker 1: with the Shangi.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And you know, this is the arbortunity for Nubang and
54:45
Speaker 2: Shangi because if if everything was you know, Shang Yang
54:50
Speaker 2: hasn't been caught by surprise, you know, Shang Miang would
54:54
Speaker 2: have been the next ruler. You know, he had Bang
54:57
Speaker 2: and Shangi working for him. You know, Chiang Yang would
55:00
Speaker 2: have been the founder of a new dynasty. But he
55:04
Speaker 2: got little like to to to to Yeah, a little
55:08
Speaker 2: too complacent and got caught off guard.
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Speaker 3: And uh.
55:12
Speaker 2: And also he was able to unlike Tinsen, Chang Yang
55:17
Speaker 2: was actually able to defeat Sanghan's army head on on
55:22
Speaker 2: multiple occasions, which we haven't seen before.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
55:27
Speaker 2: You know, because Shangyan apparently he's a quite capable commander,
55:32
Speaker 2: you know, because he was teaching art of war to
55:35
Speaker 2: his nephew Shang before, so you know, he knows art
55:38
Speaker 2: of war and and so yeah, so now now like
55:43
Speaker 2: there's a full blown crisis. Uh. But luckily for them, Sanghan,
55:50
Speaker 2: the the Chin Commander Zanghan. He thought the True forces
55:55
Speaker 2: have been broken, you know, because he defeated the commander
55:58
Speaker 2: Shang Yang is killed. So he decided to take his
56:02
Speaker 2: army north to across the Yellow River to attack the
56:06
Speaker 2: Tao State. He joined the the Chin Frontier Army that's
56:11
Speaker 2: also marching south from the Great Wall under General Wang lead,
56:15
Speaker 2: and they did a pincer movement against the Tao State
56:21
Speaker 2: and then they surrounded the first take the Tau capital, Handan.
56:27
Speaker 2: They relocated all the population away from Handan, and they
56:30
Speaker 2: tore down the remaining walls of Handan. And the Tzaou
56:36
Speaker 2: King and his Prime Minister Zong were holding up in
56:40
Speaker 2: the city of chi Lu where they're being surrounded by
56:43
Speaker 2: the Chin army, and they sent emergency uh message of
56:49
Speaker 2: help to to everyone.
56:52
Speaker 3: That would come to their aid.
56:54
Speaker 2: And and at this time just give the a breather
56:59
Speaker 2: to the To state to put their houses order together.
57:03
Speaker 2: And the King of Uh at this time, the Chi envoy,
57:10
Speaker 2: Lord Gowlin just arrived at the True court and he
57:15
Speaker 2: was seeing the praise of this guy Sony.
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Speaker 3: He said, oh, it's all because so he.
57:20
Speaker 2: Told me to walk slowly, otherwise I would walk straight
57:25
Speaker 2: into a disaster, you know, and so uh so he
57:29
Speaker 2: recommended Sonny to the new king of two U. And
57:33
Speaker 2: so King Hui or two had had an audience with
57:37
Speaker 2: Sony and he found Sony being very smart, very sharp,
57:40
Speaker 2: and this is the guy he was been waiting for.
57:43
Speaker 2: So he call up a meeting on what to do. So,
57:47
Speaker 2: you know, the lesson again from the warring states is
57:50
Speaker 2: we got a band together to resist in state. So
57:54
Speaker 2: we he decided to send two prong attacks. One uh
58:00
Speaker 2: his order du he he. This time he issued a edict.
58:07
Speaker 2: This is called the Pack of King Huai, the edict
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Speaker 2: who no matter what your status, your high born, no
58:15
Speaker 2: born who, no matter who you are, you know you're
58:18
Speaker 2: you're local, a foreigner.
58:19
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: If you are able to lead an army to break
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Speaker 2: through into the qinhr land and to overturn the Qing dynasty,
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Speaker 2: I will make you the king of new King of Qing.
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Speaker 2: This is a promise of King of Hawaii. And then
58:36
Speaker 2: they send Dubang at the head of army to march
58:41
Speaker 2: westward towards the Qin capital. But at the same time
58:45
Speaker 2: they decided so also told him, we have to rescue
58:50
Speaker 2: the Tao state because you know, if only we combine forces,
58:53
Speaker 2: we can uh defeat the Qing. So taouy was appointed
58:58
Speaker 2: as an overall commander of the main forces of the
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Speaker 2: True State to lead the True Army to go north
59:05
Speaker 2: to rescue the besieged South State uh hiang Yu. At
59:11
Speaker 2: this point, he's he wants revenge for the killing of
59:15
Speaker 2: his uncle Shangyan, so he begged to go with Stubunk
59:18
Speaker 2: together to march west to attack the Chain capital. But
59:25
Speaker 2: the King's advisor said, maybe that's not a good idea
59:29
Speaker 2: because right now, shang Ui is full of vengeance. You know,
59:34
Speaker 2: we already seen him before massacring a whole.
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Speaker 3: City old than young.
59:39
Speaker 2: If he goes to the state of Chain, that's exactly
59:41
Speaker 2: what he will do, and that is not going to
59:44
Speaker 2: be conducive to to to make the people of Chin
59:48
Speaker 2: to submit to our rule.
59:50
Speaker 3: What you need is you need.
59:51
Speaker 2: Somebody who is magnanimous, who is been benevolent, to show
59:56
Speaker 2: benevolence and forgiveness that would allow the Chin subject to
1:00:01
Speaker 2: gon over, you know, to so that person should be
1:00:05
Speaker 2: the Ubang. So then the King of why I appointed
1:00:10
Speaker 2: shan Yui as a deputy commander to Sony to go
1:00:15
Speaker 2: north to rescue the Tzau state together with that old
1:00:19
Speaker 2: man seventy year old man found funds and who went
1:00:22
Speaker 2: along as advisor. And this will begins the next chapter
1:00:30
Speaker 2: of the of the Saga with p because like the
1:00:37
Speaker 2: but the promise of the King of Hawaii is very
1:00:40
Speaker 2: important because this this ultimately the Han dynasty legitimacy ultimately
1:00:45
Speaker 2: rests on this promise. Whoever march in overthrow the Qing
1:00:50
Speaker 2: dynasty get to make be made the king of Qing.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, there's a large other rebel forces
1:01:00
Speaker 2: also send their reinforcement to State of Zau. But everybody
1:01:05
Speaker 2: was scared to confront sometimes main forces head on, because
1:01:10
Speaker 2: you know, everybody is scared of the chain. And Shang
1:01:14
Speaker 2: will be the one that we're going to break through
1:01:17
Speaker 2: the impast and and change the balance of war. But
1:01:21
Speaker 2: we'll say that story for next time. Any questions or comments.
1:01:29
Speaker 1: So hmm, not without spoiling the content for the next episode, So.
1:01:34
Speaker 2: We'll just leave it until then, okay, okay, okay. So
1:01:38
Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, Shang is gonna highlight of his life
1:01:43
Speaker 2: is coming next next episode. You know, the first highlight
1:01:46
Speaker 2: of his life was killing like a bunch of bureaucrats
1:01:50
Speaker 2: at the killing the governor of fig right and and
1:01:55
Speaker 2: and Seese the governorship for his uncle and But the
1:02:00
Speaker 2: second biggest highlight of his life is coming up.
1:02:02
Speaker 3: In the next episode.
1:02:05
Speaker 2: All the rebel forces will clash head on with the
1:02:09
Speaker 2: main strength of the chain forces. Now now it's like
1:02:12
Speaker 2: the the imperial forces they have like the two big
1:02:16
Speaker 2: imperial forces are finally joining together. One is the frontier
1:02:20
Speaker 2: troop from the Gray Wall led by Wangli, and the
1:02:23
Speaker 2: other one led by Zanghan's Sunhan's prisoner troops marching from
1:02:27
Speaker 2: the south and the all converging on the besieged Sau
1:02:32
Speaker 2: city of Chilu and the rebels the tools and the
1:02:36
Speaker 2: large force under Sounji and shang Yi. The other uh
1:02:41
Speaker 2: the other other except for stated Chi. Stated Chi is
1:02:46
Speaker 2: gonna set out this one because say, the Sao had
1:02:49
Speaker 2: refused to execute their former king and the former Chi general.
1:02:56
Speaker 1: Undtmately, they are kind of repeating the behavior of the
1:03:01
Speaker 1: chief state near the end of the Warring States, where
1:03:03
Speaker 1: they are kind of but that was slightly different. They
1:03:05
Speaker 1: were too exhausted. They were arguably kind of exhausted from
1:03:08
Speaker 1: being conquered by the end state right earlier but still
1:03:12
Speaker 1: it's the effect is the same. She is kind of
1:03:14
Speaker 1: in a splendid isolation this.
1:03:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but Shang you will hold a grudge
1:03:20
Speaker 2: against the Chi ruler because they blame He blamed the
1:03:24
Speaker 2: State of Chief for not sending reinforcement that led to
1:03:28
Speaker 2: his uncle Shang Yang's death. M And this will have
1:03:33
Speaker 2: major consequences later when when Shangi became prominent, because he
1:03:39
Speaker 2: he he will he will put this grudge into action.
1:03:45
Speaker 2: Uh and and and that that will play a big
1:03:48
Speaker 2: role in Shang Yang's fight for her gemony with the
1:03:52
Speaker 2: Obama much later because his own personal grudge against the
1:03:56
Speaker 2: chief state. But but but what will save that for
1:03:59
Speaker 2: for the later for next time? Any other comments or questions.
1:04:04
Speaker 1: The so shan Lean when he dies, he is presumably
1:04:08
Speaker 1: in his fifties probably maybe sixties.
1:04:13
Speaker 2: Maybe fifties or I mean he's seen his prime. He's
1:04:16
Speaker 2: his his his nephew is twenty like right now. Shang
1:04:20
Speaker 2: shang Yui started rebelling at twenty four, So now shang
1:04:24
Speaker 2: Ui is about twenty five, right, Yeah, So.
1:04:27
Speaker 1: It would seems that if Shan Yan had lived, Shan
1:04:30
Speaker 1: Yu would still have been his most likely successor, unless
1:04:34
Speaker 1: at some later point, he gets some younger concubines and
1:04:37
Speaker 1: pumps out a news pumps out a kid.
1:04:40
Speaker 2: Right, that is a story I would say for later
1:04:44
Speaker 2: because that that that whether shaan Yui was a legitimate
1:04:49
Speaker 2: successor to Shang Yao. Because as we're already seen, there's
1:04:55
Speaker 2: shang Ui is not the only new generation of the
1:04:59
Speaker 2: shang Van. There was a shank what we just talked about.
1:05:02
Speaker 2: That was the son of shang UI's next cousin that
1:05:06
Speaker 2: was killed when they're trying to rescue. There are still
1:05:09
Speaker 2: other shung family members around. But we'll talk about that
1:05:13
Speaker 2: next time when we talk about the rise of shang Xi.
1:05:17
Speaker 3: Okay, look forward to it.
1:05:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, if no more questions, well, we'll wrap
1:05:22
Speaker 2: it up today and we'll come back next week, same time.
1:05:28
Speaker 3: Okay, but but