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Scheme Insider: Breaking Down Ohio State's Defensive Collapse Vs. Oregon · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 2: All right, we got to talk about the Ohio State defense.
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Speaker 2: Deep breath, everyone. Their performance against Oregon is There were
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Speaker 2: some issues. I don't think I'm breaking any news. They
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Speaker 2: are going to welcome in our buddy Michael Pettit, one
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Speaker 2: of our scheme insiders at BuckeyeInsiders.com. Michael, it feels like
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Speaker 2: there are a bunch of schematic things that you kind
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Speaker 2: of look at on defense and go, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if that makes a whole lot of sense. But I
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Speaker 2: also feel like they run into issues with kind of
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Speaker 2: being predictable at times as well. So, I mean, we're
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Speaker 2: going to go a whole bunch of different places on
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Speaker 2: this show. We've got a lot of stuff we've got
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Speaker 2: to talk about. First one, though, it just it feels
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Speaker 2: like they get themselves into situations where they're kind of
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Speaker 2: predictable and opponents can take advantage. And that's something that
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Speaker 2: Dylan Rayola talked about in the postgame press conference.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we can save my entire like synopsis
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Speaker 3: of the defense for the end of this video. And
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Speaker 3: to start out, we'll just go play by play. And
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Speaker 3: I don't have much of a structure here. I just
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Speaker 3: this is just a lot of bad football, a lot
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Speaker 3: of bad plays. But this first one we'll look at
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Speaker 3: is a center read blitz. This is something they often
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Speaker 3: pretty much always do every time they line up in
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Speaker 3: this jet front. The jet front is when you're playing
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Speaker 3: both your defensive tackles and three techniques. And then you've
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Speaker 3: got your defensive ends in there as well. And like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: every time they do this, they blitz one of their
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Speaker 3: linebackers at the center. And he's reading that center to
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Speaker 3: determine which a gap to insert at the center of
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Speaker 3: steps away from him, he'll insert the nearside A-gap right
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Speaker 3: off the center's backside. If the center steps toward him,
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Speaker 3: he will fight over the top to the opposite A-gap.
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Speaker 3: So my issue with this is, like I said, and
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Speaker 3: like Tom alluded to, is predictability. Almost every time they
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Speaker 3: line up in this front, they do this. Like, can
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Speaker 3: you please, I get what you're trying to do. You're
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Speaker 3: trying to stress the center because you're isolating him here.
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Speaker 3: But we've all seen that that's what you're going to
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Speaker 3: do 95% of the time you line up in this front.
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Speaker 3: Please try something different. Pinch the defensive line, run double
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Speaker 3: tech stunts, something. But I get so sick of every
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Speaker 3: weekend watching them line up in this front and me
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Speaker 3: immediately know that this is what's coming. I don't think
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Speaker 3: this is surprising any centers anymore at this point.
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Speaker 2: Well, they are running into issues in other places as well.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the predictability runs a kind of different direction
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Speaker 2: where they've had issues with counter a bunch this year.
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Speaker 2: And we're going to run it. We're going to look
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Speaker 2: at one one example here. This is also an example
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Speaker 2: of this is one of the things that I think
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Speaker 2: even fans who don't pay that much attention to scheme
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Speaker 2: stuff are kind of wondering about where you're taking guys.
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Speaker 2: and asking them to do stuff that is very different
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Speaker 2: than what their guys in their position are typically asked
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Speaker 2: to do. Like in this case, it's, it's Quay Russo,
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Speaker 2: but you see it, you see it a bunch with
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Speaker 2: Kenyatta Jackson as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I've got Quay Russo circled here on this clip. Essentially, like, again,
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Speaker 3: this is just a very strange formation. Like I really,
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Speaker 3: this entire year, I've really struggled to try to understand
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Speaker 3: what it is Patricia is trying to accomplish. Like, I
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Speaker 3: don't know what he wants this defense to look like
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Speaker 3: from a structural or a schematic point. Again, I talked
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Speaker 3: about this last week. I feel like this is a
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Speaker 3: lot of just doing stuff just for the heck of it,
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Speaker 3: just for the sake of doing it. Like here, you know,
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Speaker 3: Quay Rousseau, he's kind of like your typical like weak
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Speaker 3: side defensive end, Jack linebacker type of player. And you
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Speaker 3: usually play that guy to the boundary. But like they're
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Speaker 3: playing him to the field and they're having him as
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Speaker 3: like an apex player or a cover down player over
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Speaker 3: top of receivers flexed way out. Like this is just
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Speaker 3: strange that they keep doing this. And again, like as
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Speaker 3: Tom said, we see it, them do it with Kenyatta
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Speaker 3: Jackson too. And then like even the defensive line, the
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Speaker 3: alignment here, and you'll get a better view from the
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Speaker 3: end zone view, but like they've got one defensive tackle
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Speaker 3: and a four eye one and a three tack. And
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Speaker 3: then they've got Zion Grady who's in a standup nine technique. Like,
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Speaker 3: That's just really strange. I mean, it's just strange. I'm
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Speaker 3: not understanding the goal of some of the structural stuff. Like, again,
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Speaker 3: it's really easy to say, like, it's really easy to
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Speaker 3: blame the talent level on this defense because you're thinking, well,
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Speaker 3: this defense was great last year when they had all
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Speaker 3: this talent. But, like, Matt Patricia is not doing a
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Speaker 3: lot of the same things he did last year. It's
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Speaker 3: completely different, both from an overall structural standpoint and and
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Speaker 3: from a down-to-down play calling standpoint it's very strange this
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Speaker 3: is just another example.
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Speaker 2: Well we got a different example coming up next this
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Speaker 2: is a third and three playing you third and three
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Speaker 2: you normally think okay they're probably gonna line up they're
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Speaker 2: gonna probably try and run the ball sure absolutely so
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Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna be maybe packing the box a
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Speaker 2: little bit in this case not at all and it
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Speaker 2: ends up being an extremely easy conversion for oregon.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so my issue here is, like, it's third and three,
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Speaker 3: and you're in a too high safety set where both
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Speaker 3: of your safeties are about 15 yards off the ball. And, like,
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Speaker 3: I don't really mind being in a too high safety set,
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Speaker 3: particularly to start out here, because Oregon's in, like, an
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Speaker 3: open two-by-two look. But, you know, eventually they motion their
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Speaker 3: tight end in to create more of a traditional 11
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Speaker 3: personnel look. And again, it's like if you're going to
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Speaker 3: be in two-eye safety, it's like, why are you this
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Speaker 3: far back on third and three? It just seems like, again,
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Speaker 3: like a common theme we've seen is you're giving a
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Speaker 3: lot of room here. And of course, Oregon motions to
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Speaker 3: Wildcat here and just picks up a very, very easy
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Speaker 3: first down.
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Speaker 2: Next up, we're going to be in second and 12.
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Speaker 2: And so it seems like, OK, this is a spot
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Speaker 2: where the defense can maybe get off the field. And
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Speaker 2: they do technically get off the field after this play,
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Speaker 2: but not in the way you would.
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Speaker 1: Want them to.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what? When I saw this play live,
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Speaker 3: before this play even happened, I'm sitting there yelling at
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Speaker 3: my TV, what are you doing? Why are we aligned
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Speaker 3: like this? It is second down. And I don't know
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Speaker 3: if anyone remembers last week, for anyone who watched the
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Speaker 3: video Tom and I did last week where I reviewed
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Speaker 3: the defense against USC, there was a play in there.
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Speaker 3: It was second and eight, and Matt Patricia lined up
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Speaker 3: in this double when the linebackers are walked up to
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage like this, like in the a gap,
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Speaker 3: you call it a double a gap mug. Like the
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Speaker 3: linebackers are mugged up there. And there's a play last
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Speaker 3: week we went over where he did this on second
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Speaker 3: and eight. And like when defensive coordinators do this on
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Speaker 3: standard downs, like first and 10, second and seven, second
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Speaker 3: and 10, like it really drives me crazy because it
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Speaker 3: is really hard as a linebacker to defend the run
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Speaker 3: properly from that mug position. And you don't want to
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Speaker 3: be in that position if there's a, legitimate chance that
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Speaker 3: the ball will be ran. So here to make matters worse,
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Speaker 3: they get back into this double agate mug look. But again,
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Speaker 3: they don't have Kenyatta Jackson on the line of scrimmage
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Speaker 3: as an edge player, because why would you do that
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Speaker 3: when you could play him as an apex player, splitting
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Speaker 3: the difference between a slot receiver and the offensive tackle,
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Speaker 3: which again, theme of the season, it's been strange. Like
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Speaker 3: not to get too far off track here, but I
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Speaker 3: just want to make the point that A lot of
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Speaker 3: people are disappointed in Kenyatta Jackson this year. And some
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Speaker 3: people I've seen just say he's not good. He can't
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Speaker 3: get after the passer. My counter to that is this.
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Speaker 3: I watched Kenyatta Jackson last year when they actually did
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Speaker 3: play him at defensive end. And even in the few
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Speaker 3: opportunities he's gotten this year, he's not a terrible pass rusher.
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Speaker 3: He's not phenomenal, but he is a good enough pass rusher.
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Speaker 3: But they don't ever let him do it. I mean,
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Speaker 3: they're playing him. He's 265 pounds. They're playing him. as
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Speaker 3: an apex player or a cover down player to the
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Speaker 3: field in a look like this, like that's insane to me.
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Speaker 3: I don't get the thought process and why Matt Patricia
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Speaker 3: thinks that this is how the personnel should be, you know,
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Speaker 3: being used. So again, here, the problem is it's second
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Speaker 3: and 12. You get into this mug linebacker look that are,
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Speaker 3: that even that makes even less sense because of where
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Speaker 3: Kenyatta Jackson's lined up. And of course, Oregon's able to
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Speaker 3: run the ball and, You know, obviously some uninspiring play
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Speaker 3: transpires from the moment the ball is snapped. But like,
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Speaker 3: I don't think the players are being put in a
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Speaker 3: position to be successful. This is just another example of
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Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator doing something just for the sake of
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Speaker 3: doing it. And this is the result.
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Speaker 2: Well, and the next play feels like it slides very
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Speaker 2: neatly in right behind that, because this is one where
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Speaker 2: you've got both Quay Rousaw and Kenyatta Jackson out there
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Speaker 2: lined up.
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Speaker 1: Kind of over slot receivers in space.
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Speaker 2: And this is a little different from last time because
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Speaker 2: this time Kenyatta Jackson is over the guy to the boundary,
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Speaker 2: so not the guy to the field.
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Speaker 1: So a different look here, I guess, sort of.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you look at this whole clip
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Speaker 3: that we'll show, Oregon motions into an empty look. And
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Speaker 3: that's why this is so interesting to me because they
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Speaker 3: motion into empty. and that shows you that the way
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Speaker 3: Ohio State's defense adjusts to empty is not by moving
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Speaker 3: on the back end like you would think someone would.
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Speaker 3: It's not by moving the safeties or by bumping the
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Speaker 3: linebackers a little bit. No, they have their defensive ends
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Speaker 3: Kenyatta Jackson and Quay Russo bump out to be cover
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Speaker 3: down players over top of slot receivers. Again, very strange.
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Speaker 3: I guess obviously what they're trying to do here is
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Speaker 3: maintain this Tampa two look, but it's like, yeah, you're
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Speaker 3: bumping your defensive ends out to be cover down players
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Speaker 3: and play in space. And in turn, you're blitzing your
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Speaker 3: two linebackers. You've only got two defensive linemen on the
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. Once again, this is just very bizarre.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand the thought process behind this.
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Speaker 2: All right, next up, this is one that I think
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Speaker 2: probably everyone who is thinking, well, if they're going through
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Speaker 2: a bunch of bad plays for the defense, I bet
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Speaker 2: they're going to get to this one soon. Yeah, Michael,
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Speaker 2: it is third and 15. This was one that I
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Speaker 2: can't see that much from the field, and I have
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Speaker 2: a terrible angle to view everything, but this was also
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Speaker 2: one where I can see from the field there's not
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Speaker 2: a pass rush, and also there's a guy wide open
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. How could that possibly
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Speaker 2: happen on the same play?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we don't need to even spend too
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Speaker 3: much time on this one. To cover three play, and
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Speaker 3: the drops are just egregiously long, which has been another
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Speaker 3: problem all year. So I don't know why that is.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if the linebackers had a tendency to
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Speaker 3: drop too far. I don't know if James Laurinaitis is
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Speaker 3: teaching them to do that, or I don't know if
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Speaker 3: Matt Patricia is teaching them to do that. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's third and 15, and These deep drops have been
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Speaker 3: a problem that's shown up multiple times throughout the year.
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Speaker 3: And I think this was the play that probably brought
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Speaker 3: it to light for a lot of people. But yeah, like,
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Speaker 3: I don't know, there's really not much to say. This
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Speaker 3: is just an extremely poor execution and just extremely over
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Speaker 3: the top to think you need to be getting this
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Speaker 3: much space.
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Speaker 2: All right. We got to talk about their alignment versus
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Speaker 2: unbalanced formations. And I know this is something that we've
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Speaker 2: talked about a little bit this year, but it seems
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Speaker 2: like this is an issue that has sort of continued
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Speaker 2: to pop up from time to time.
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Speaker 3: And really it started last year. Like if I remember correctly,
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Speaker 3: Michigan even had some success running unbalanced looks against Matt Patricia,
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Speaker 3: but it's been really bad this year. I mean, it
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Speaker 3: started with Texas and, They had trouble lining up properly
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Speaker 3: to unbalance looks. And then, you know, they had a
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Speaker 3: little bit of trouble again in the Illinois game. And
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Speaker 3: on Saturday, it was probably the worst it's been yet.
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Speaker 3: I mean, like right here, you've got just to this,
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Speaker 3: Oregon has all four of their non-QB, non-O-lineman, or excuse me,
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Speaker 3: all five of their non-QB, non-O-lineman players to one side
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Speaker 3: of the formation. And Ohio State's only got three guys
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Speaker 3: over there. So once again, to the defense's left, the
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Speaker 3: offense's right, you've got way too many guys over there
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Speaker 3: for the amount of actual threats that way. There aren't
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Speaker 3: that many gaps over there. There aren't any receivers over there.
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Speaker 3: And you do not have enough guys to deal with
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Speaker 3: the number of eligible receivers and gaps to the offense's
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Speaker 3: left side and your right side of the formation. I
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Speaker 3: don't know why Matt Patricia can't get a defense to
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Speaker 3: properly line up to unbalanced formations. Like we're in week,
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Speaker 3: what was that? The ninth game of the year. And
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Speaker 3: it's still been this big of a problem. Like, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 3: but this falls on coaching. That's just my view on it.
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Speaker 2: It's been an, also a sort of an interesting mix
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Speaker 2: of they're playing very conservatively, very, very conservatively, very conservatively.
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden they get very aggressive
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Speaker 2: and the strange thing against Oregon was it felt like
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Speaker 2: Oregon knew when they were going to get aggressive and
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Speaker 2: they just constantly hit them with screens in that moment.
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Speaker 2: It was just kind of like the perfect play at
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Speaker 2: the perfect time, several times in that game. This is
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Speaker 2: an example of that, where you bring a bunch of pressure,
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Speaker 2: you give it, you get a, give up a screen
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Speaker 2: and you get got.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. This has been another frustrating theme throughout the course
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Speaker 3: of the year. Uh, Trisha has often struggled to find
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Speaker 3: the balance between doing nothing to generate pressure and doing
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Speaker 3: way too much to generate pressure. And I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: a nice cover zero blitz here and there is an issue,
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Speaker 3: but this is just, just seeing them get burned on
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Speaker 3: cover zero here is just kind of like, it's just
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Speaker 3: so symbolic of the way this season's been in terms
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Speaker 3: of generating pressure. I mean, we just never see, pressure
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Speaker 3: gets schemed open for this team and uh you know
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Speaker 3: it's a problem there's there's got to be some middle
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Speaker 3: ground answers between cage rushing three guys and a seven
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Speaker 3: man cover zero blitz like that's not an unreasonable stance
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Speaker 3: to have that's not that's there's just got to be
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Speaker 3: a middle ground and for some reason this deep into
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Speaker 3: the season there still isn't and that's kind of what
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Speaker 3: makes this so frustrating is you're hoping can you just
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Speaker 3: run like a cover uh I'll cover two steel blitz
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Speaker 3: or something like that. But no, it just seems like
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Speaker 3: there's too much all or nothing when it comes to
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Speaker 3: scheming up pass rush.
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Speaker 2: And one more thing, promised this is the last one
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Speaker 2: on this good vibes edition of Scheme Insiders. This has
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Speaker 2: been another thing that we've talked about a bunch this
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Speaker 2: year where it has felt like there have been a
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Speaker 2: bunch of times when they've had trouble getting lined up.
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Speaker 2: And this was another one where You just, you watch
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Speaker 2: right at the start, right as Oregon snaps the ball,
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Speaker 2: there's still guys kind of moving around and figuring out
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Speaker 2: where they need to be. And they kind of get
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Speaker 2: caught flat footed. And it's just an absolute walk in
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Speaker 2: touchdown from about seven, eight yards out. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And once again, Oregon is in an unbalanced look here,
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Speaker 3: of course. But yeah, you know, you saw this multiple
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Speaker 3: times throughout the game. You've seen it multiple times throughout
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Speaker 3: the year. This team has a lot of trouble getting
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Speaker 3: lined up properly. There's often a lot of confusion before
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Speaker 3: the snap. You know, we saw it bite them on
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Speaker 3: that big third and 18 play against USC. The team
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Speaker 3: struggles getting lined up versus tempo. That's a problem that
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Speaker 3: goes back to last year. So, yeah, like, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 3: but a lot of this falls on coaching. That's just
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Speaker 3: my view on it as to why guys are having
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Speaker 3: so much trouble getting lined up. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: their responsibilities are being communicated to them clearly enough. And
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Speaker 3: I'll just now ease in to my overall view of
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Speaker 3: this defense now. This defense just schematically and structurally and
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Speaker 3: the way personnel are used just doesn't really make sense
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Speaker 3: to me. I think there's just a lot of structural
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Speaker 3: things that don't make sense, such as having Kenyatta Jackson
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Speaker 3: play in the role he's playing where he's like an
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Speaker 3: apex to the field half the time is strange. We
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Speaker 3: used to talk about it a lot earlier in the year,
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Speaker 3: but there's been so many times where it's looked like
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Speaker 3: the defense was not properly gapped out. So there's been
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Speaker 3: all sorts of structural problems. And what makes it worse
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Speaker 3: is that we're now kind of seeing like the down
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Speaker 3: to down defensive play calling get really weird too. Again,
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Speaker 3: I said this last week, and I maintain that the
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Speaker 3: defense against USC was not good, but they weren't awful.
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Speaker 3: But my big criticism of last week's defense against USC
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Speaker 3: was there's a lot of calls that really make it
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Speaker 3: seem like the defensive coordinator is just doing things for
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Speaker 3: the sake of doing them, and that very much continued
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Speaker 3: on to Oregon. In a lot of ways, that's been
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Speaker 3: kind of the theme of the year. It just sometimes
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Speaker 3: seems like Matt Patricia is– throwing stuff at the wall
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Speaker 3: and hoping something sticks. And the first time you saw
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Speaker 3: that was against Illinois. Illinois absolutely shredded this structure, this scheme,
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Speaker 3: all day. But later in the game, Patricia just started
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Speaker 3: throwing the house at them, and it still didn't work.
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Speaker 3: He was just trying to hope something could work, but
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Speaker 3: he couldn't get anything to work. I mean, so I
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Speaker 3: don't know. I don't really... I don't have a lot
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Speaker 3: of faith in this defense right now, and it's not
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Speaker 3: because I think the talent isn't good enough, to be honest.
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Speaker 3: I don't think the structure and the play calling on
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Speaker 3: defense are anywhere near where they need to be, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a little late in the year
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Speaker 3: for some sort of mass reset. So, yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 3: the future of the Ohio State defense right now, both
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Speaker 3: short-term and long-term, is just a little concerning to me.
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Speaker 3: That's kind of the best way I'd put it.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I did want to ask you about the
19:10
Speaker 2: very short term, the very immediate term this weekend against Northwestern.
19:15
Speaker 2: I feel like there's always lots of conversation about, oh,
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Speaker 2: NFL guys versus college guys and the adjustments to the
19:24
Speaker 2: hash marks and all that kind of stuff. This weekend
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Speaker 2: feels like a NFL guy versus college offense kind of
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Speaker 2: thing where I would bet that Matt Patricia has not
19:37
Speaker 2: had to deal with at least some of the specifics
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Speaker 2: of some of this stuff, some of the, you know,
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Speaker 2: some of the fundamental stuff, like, yeah, it's similar throughout
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Speaker 2: every level of college, every level of football, but you know, when,
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Speaker 2: when Chip Kelly is like, digging way into the 1943
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Speaker 2: Iowa pre-flight playbook, like he is this year, like that
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Speaker 2: feels like Matt Patricia is going to be facing stuff.
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Speaker 2: He's not seen in years or decades coming up against
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Speaker 2: his defense. Like, does that, Does that seem like a
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Speaker 2: little bit of.
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Speaker 1: A concern to you?
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Speaker 2: And we don't know if Aiden Childs, the Northwestern quarterback,
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Speaker 2: is going to play, but it just feels like schematically
20:16
Speaker 2: you're going to face some weird stuff that you have
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Speaker 2: not necessarily had to deal with before.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you've got to think about it. Matt
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Speaker 3: Patricia's entire career as a defensive coordinator has been in
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Speaker 3: the NFL, and then he's got about a season and
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Speaker 3: three-fourths in college. I don't know that he's ever had
20:36
Speaker 3: to prepare for Flexbone. I don't know that he's ever
20:38
Speaker 3: had to prepare for Wing T. We've seen Chip Kelly
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Speaker 3: use both of those things this year. In addition to
20:45
Speaker 3: all sorts of other wonky stuff that you just wouldn't
20:47
Speaker 3: see in the NFL, people often talk about the college
20:51
Speaker 3: versus NFL guys. Every now and again, you'll hear people
20:54
Speaker 3: think that the NFL guys have this schematic advantage over
20:58
Speaker 3: college coordinators. I've actually never really been on that train.
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Speaker 3: I think they're two completely different games. If anything, The
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Speaker 3: college coordinators have more experience preparing for less typical stuff,
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Speaker 3: you would say. So, yeah, I mean, I'm very, very
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Speaker 3: concerned about what the defense is going to look like
21:21
Speaker 3: against Chip Kelly's scheme this Saturday. I don't– I think–
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've been concerned about this for weeks, and
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Speaker 3: now it's finally here, and I'm just thinking, like, I
21:31
Speaker 3: don't know what they're going to do. I mean, because–
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Speaker 3: you know, again, it's not something that Matt Patricia has
21:39
Speaker 3: ever had to prepare for. So definitely something to look for,
21:43
Speaker 3: see how they do once Northwestern starts getting into their
21:46
Speaker 3: flex bone stuff. But yeah, it'll be interesting.
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