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Hour 1 - Go Early Vote! · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay and Buck. It is the Friday
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  Speaker 1: edition of the program and we appreciate all of you
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  Speaker 1: hanging out with us all across the country and all
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  Speaker 1: around the world. We are 11 days away from the
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  Speaker 1: midterm elections officially being here as a good American. I
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  Speaker 1: have already voted. I have been bullying Buck. Has it worked, Buck?
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  Speaker 1: Are you now a good American yet or not?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I can just speak to you as a full-time
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  Speaker 2: resident of the great state of Florida, unlike Halfway Clay,
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  Speaker 2: that yes, indeed, I went with my brother and baby
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  Speaker 2: Speed to the polling place yesterday, and I cast my vote.
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  Speaker 2: Speed caused quite a stir. All the ladies, the nice
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  Speaker 2: ladies working at the voting tables, were like, that is
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  Speaker 2: the cutest baby.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, indeed. Indeed he is.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say it out loud, but I wanted to say,
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  Speaker 2: and a future Republican. But Yes, voted yesterday. Really nobody
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  Speaker 2: else there. So, you know, it didn't feel like Miami
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  Speaker 2: Beach was flooding the zone the way that some other
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  Speaker 2: reports are from other places. But put my vote in
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  Speaker 2: for for Byron Donalds and Ashley Moody, among others. And
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  Speaker 2: go vote, everybody, and go vote early. I know you
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  Speaker 2: love Election Day.
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  Speaker 1: Go vote early. Get it done.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: OK, so we are officially both better Americans than all
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  Speaker 1: of you out there. that have not yet voted yourselves.
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  Speaker 1: There are over 20 million people who have already voted.
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  Speaker 1: And I will just give you the numbers right off
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  Speaker 1: the top. If you are being discouraged by the polls
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  Speaker 1: or talk of a blue wave, all those things, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't exist in the early voting. In fact, the early
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  Speaker 1: voting is nearly identical at this point in time to
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  Speaker 1: what we saw in 2022. And Republicans won the national
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  Speaker 1: popular vote, not only in 2024, but more significantly the
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  Speaker 1: last time we had a midterm. back in 2022. So
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  Speaker 1: the blue wave may materialize. Maybe we will have a
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  Speaker 1: blue tsunami. Who knows? As we sit here 11 days out,
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  Speaker 1: what I can tell you is that with the people
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  Speaker 1: that are voting right now, the over 20 million of you,
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  Speaker 1: including Buck and me, there has not been any blue
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  Speaker 1: wave at all. In fact, the numbers are nearly identical
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  Speaker 1: to 2022. So at this point in time, some people
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  Speaker 1: will say, well, you have to look at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time. It is very, very similar. Over 20 million
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  Speaker 1: people have voted, and the numbers are nearly identical to 2020.
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  Speaker 1: So I want all of you to get out and vote.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want you to be discouraged. And certainly there
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  Speaker 1: are many different states out there that are battleground states,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a lot of data out there, and
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  Speaker 1: the data reflects that. There are a lot of Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: but also a lot of Republicans out there voting very
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  Speaker 1: similar to what we saw in 2022. OK, let's dive
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  Speaker 1: into a couple of different stories that are out there.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is not going to be ideal for
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  Speaker 1: Troy Jackson. Fox News came out, Buck, in Maine, dead
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  Speaker 1: even race, 49-49, according to the Fox News poll that
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  Speaker 1: I believe came out yesterday. in Maine. That is 49
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  Speaker 1: percent for for Susan Collins, 49 percent for Troy Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: And they're calling in the big guns to come campaign
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  Speaker 1: for Troy Jackson because he doesn't have a lot of sizzle.
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  Speaker 1: And so they brought in AOC and Buck here was AOC.
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  Speaker 1: They took questions from the crowd and And among those
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  Speaker 1: questions was AOC being asked, why are Democrats not supporting
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  Speaker 1: trans people more? Listen to cut seven.
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  Speaker 4: I don't support the rights of trans people just to
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  Speaker 4: protect my own rights. But I support the rights of
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  Speaker 4: trans women because I'm a girl's girl. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Bob, I think this is a big swing and
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  Speaker 1: a miss by AOC. And I talked about this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit earlier this morning on Fox and Friends. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a girl's girl, says AOC. Do you know what just
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  Speaker 1: happened and what is on the ballot? I believe in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Washington, a bunch of girls, high school girls,
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  Speaker 1: had on their cross-country team a boy, who decided to
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  Speaker 1: become a girl. He flipped to the girls' cross-country team.
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  Speaker 1: He started winning all of the races. And so these
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  Speaker 1: high school girls at a cross-country meet just in the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, these high school girls refused to run.
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  Speaker 1: When they started the race, they walked because they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to protest the fact that a boy was identifying as
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  Speaker 1: a girl and he was winning all of their races.
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  Speaker 1: And so my response to AOC would be, if you're
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  Speaker 1: a girl's girl, why are you not standing up for
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  Speaker 1: actual girls? Why are you, instead of standing up for
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  Speaker 1: actual girls, trying to have some sort of girl summit
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  Speaker 1: with a boy pretending to be a girl, with a
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  Speaker 1: man pretending to be a woman? I think this is
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  Speaker 1: a big whiff. AOC also said, Buck, cut eight, attacking
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  Speaker 1: trans girls stops women from standing up to rapists. This
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  Speaker 1: is not an argument I think is good.
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  Speaker 4: Understand that when they attack trans girls in sports, they're
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  Speaker 4: also attacking all women's ability to stand up against their abusers,
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  Speaker 4: their rapists, and their assaulters on campuses across America.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. This is extremely rare. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what argument she thinks she's making there.
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  Speaker 2: It's so absurd or so disconnected that I'm standing up
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  Speaker 2: for trans girls is directly related to girls on campus
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  Speaker 2: just because like one is allegedly a girl and then
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  Speaker 2: the other is also a girl and so it's all
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  Speaker 2: girls issues i guess but that's a that's a like
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  Speaker 2: 70 iq argument i mean this makes absolutely no sense
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  Speaker 2: whatsoever and her i agree with you the i'm a
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  Speaker 2: girl's girl so i stand up for girls look i
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  Speaker 2: think democrats are going to get they're going to get
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  Speaker 2: pummeled as they should on this issue again but they're
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  Speaker 2: just really hoping clay They view it as the trans
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  Speaker 2: issue is a base orthodoxy, base requirement for the left.
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  Speaker 2: And they think they can come to power in this
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  Speaker 2: midterm and then in twenty twenty eight on economics and
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  Speaker 2: Trump corruption. That is absolutely the game plan that economics,
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  Speaker 2: meaning health care, cost of living, all those things wrapped
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  Speaker 2: into one and and saying that Trump is corrupt and
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  Speaker 2: the people around him are corrupt. That is the whole
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  Speaker 2: game plan. So trans issues might be a political loss
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  Speaker 2: leader for them, if you will, meaning, yeah, it's only
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  Speaker 2: 10 or 20 percent of the country that agrees with them.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a very ardent, very politically active 20 percent.
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  Speaker 2: And they think they can win the other 31 percent
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  Speaker 2: on all the other stuff. So it's not like this
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  Speaker 2: is going to sink her. But I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: It's a crap.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even a good argument. It makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: And I I'm going to say I think she's usually
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  Speaker 2: smarter than this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's the other. Maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We've been crediting AOC for her political adroitness. Enabling rapists,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, even if you accept her argument, I
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  Speaker 1: would suggest that putting men in women's locker rooms is
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  Speaker 1: one of the ways that you could most enable rapists.
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  Speaker 1: Put them actually around women not wearing very many clothes.
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  Speaker 1: That would be one of the areas that I think
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  Speaker 1: women would be the most vulnerable to rape is when
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  Speaker 1: men are allowed into women's private spaces while arguing that
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  Speaker 1: they're every bit as much of women as the actual women.
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  Speaker 1: The other part here, Buck, is, and I think this
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  Speaker 1: is significant, she didn't make these comments campaigning in California
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  Speaker 1: or even campaigning in New York or Illinois, someplace that
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  Speaker 1: is a deep blue location. She made them while sitting
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  Speaker 1: next to Troy Jackson, who is in a dead even
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  Speaker 1: fight in Maine, a state that is a five or
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  Speaker 1: six point state in favor typically of Democrat candidates. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is going to blow up on her in
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  Speaker 1: a bad way through the Troy Jackson campaign because he's
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  Speaker 1: on stage sitting next to her while she's saying all this. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it may be beneficial to AOC politically to be making
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  Speaker 1: these arguments, but I don't think these arguments are beneficial
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  Speaker 1: to be made in states where it is right now
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  Speaker 1: completely a 50-50 environment. And by the way, Buck, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of the early vote going on, you will be happy
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  Speaker 1: to know that on day five in Florida, Republicans are
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  Speaker 1: continuing to extend their lead in the early vote. That is,
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  Speaker 1: every single day since day one, there has been a
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  Speaker 1: growth in overall Republican turnout. And I would just encourage
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  Speaker 1: all of you out there that are getting discouraged, Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: I was tweeting about this, and I bet our buddy Gerduski,
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  Speaker 1: who we need to get on for sure next week,
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  Speaker 1: right before the official midterms. Democrat diehards are so committed
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  Speaker 1: that they show up as early as possible, Buck. And
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  Speaker 1: it feels like every day, every time this happens. Day one,
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  Speaker 1: day two, wherever you are, whether it's Houston, whether it's Miami,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's New York, whether it's Chicago, L.A., Nashville, wherever
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  Speaker 1: you are, day one of early voting, Democrats flood the polls.
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  Speaker 1: And then because they have so many propagandists in media,
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  Speaker 1: they create an entire news cycle. of Democrat turnout is
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  Speaker 1: engineered on a level that we have never seen before.
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  Speaker 1: We're setting all time records. And then what happens? The
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  Speaker 1: days continue to tick up on early voting and Republicans
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  Speaker 1: who actually have jobs, who Make the time to get
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  Speaker 1: to the poll. And every day after day one and
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  Speaker 1: day two, Republicans start to cut into these leads. But
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times the story isn't told. And this
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  Speaker 1: is why at least I want to focus on the
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  Speaker 1: 20 million plus who have voted as opposed to the polls,
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  Speaker 1: because I care about what people actually do, not about
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  Speaker 1: what some of these pollsters who want to share a
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  Speaker 1: story and create a narrative want to put out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you saw Buck. There were three or
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  Speaker 1: four polls that have now been withdrawn that had been
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  Speaker 1: very favorable to Democrats that they found out were completely
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  Speaker 1: made up. They just didn't exist. They just completely made
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  Speaker 1: up all of their numbers. And I do think that
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  Speaker 1: that is becoming more and more of a story here.
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  Speaker 1: The so-called blue wave is not materializing at all. If anything,
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  Speaker 1: this looks very similar to 2022, the last midterm we had.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hope that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Laugh, learn, and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we've got a
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  Speaker 2: lot to get to today in terms of what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in these races.
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  Speaker 1: We've also got a lot of calls and talkbacks. It's
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  Speaker 1: a Friday.
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  Speaker 2: We want to hear from all of you on, well,
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  Speaker 2: quite honestly, all of the things going on. Clay, I
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  Speaker 2: think you and I can agree on this one or
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  Speaker 2: do agree on this one. This Ilhan Omar thing is
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  Speaker 2: not a, it's not just a stunt for media purposes
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. I think that there is going
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  Speaker 2: to be an indictment. Yeah, it's going to happen. Here
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  Speaker 2: is Judge Jeanine, whom I know. I know, Judge, I've
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  Speaker 2: known her for, gosh, I don't know, over a decade now,
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  Speaker 2: talking about what she thinks is, well, she was on
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Waters' show. This is cut five.
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  Speaker 3: U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Attorney in D.C., Judge Jeanine.
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  Speaker 3: Play it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Judge. Ilhan Omar. Is that her real name?
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  Speaker 5: Her real name is Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi. You had
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  Speaker 5: it absolutely right. Her sister is Sahra Nur Saeed Elmi.
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  Speaker 5: And her sister actually wrote a book and talked about
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  Speaker 5: the fact that Ilhan is her sister. So that is
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  Speaker 5: her name.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is she is the U.S. attorney for D.C.
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  Speaker 2: She obviously is a Fox News commentator, Fox News host
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  Speaker 2: for a long time and also was it was a
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  Speaker 2: judge before that in New York. I mean, she's telling
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  Speaker 2: us she's living under a fake name. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: that means that there's a name issue here, Clay. I
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  Speaker 2: do think that this wouldn't be said if there was
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  Speaker 2: not something to it.
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  Speaker 1: Her brother has the same name that she allegedly married
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  Speaker 1: as her second husband. Here's my prediction. I think there
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  Speaker 1: is a chance that this comes out next week and
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  Speaker 1: that the indictment is a blockbuster that dominates all coverage
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  Speaker 1: next week, and that even Democrats are forced to try
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  Speaker 1: and cover for Ilhan Omar in what could be one
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  Speaker 1: of the most blockbuster indictments of a sitting congressperson that
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  Speaker 1: we have ever seen. Can I be clear about something?
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  Speaker 2: Clay, the indictment would essentially say, We've got a fake
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  Speaker 2: American serving in Congress, everybody. Because if you fabricated, if
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  Speaker 2: you used fraud to become a citizen, you're not an American.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she may well be facing very rapidly, in
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  Speaker 1: short order, deportation. And I can't imagine that we have
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  Speaker 1: ever deported a sitting congressperson before for lying and not
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  Speaker 1: being an eligible United States citizen. Maybe we can grok
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  Speaker 1: search that during the break. That's a very specific thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall it ever occurring. Maybe back in the
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  Speaker 1: 19th century there was somebody who faked that they were
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  Speaker 1: an American citizen and somehow ended up in Congress. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's happened before. I don't know that we would ever
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  Speaker 1: have deported someone. Let me add this, Buck. Everybody made
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  Speaker 1: fun of and we played it. Elon Omar saying in
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  Speaker 1: that ridiculous MS Now interview, ha ha ha, not to
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  Speaker 1: my knowledge. When she was asked if she had married
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  Speaker 1: a family member, I'm going to tell you, and some
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  Speaker 1: of you are going to think I'm crazy, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: just telling you what's going to happen. Her defense is
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  Speaker 1: going to be that she's the victim here and a
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  Speaker 1: fraud was perpetrated against her.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's, I think you're correct. I actually, I
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  Speaker 2: co-sign with that too. And I noticed very much not
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  Speaker 2: to my knowledge. That's an extremely strange. Somebody was like,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Clay, are you, are you married to your sister?
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  Speaker 2: You'd be like, no.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Because you know you're not. And to say not to
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  Speaker 1: my knowledge is so specific because crimes typically require two things.
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  Speaker 1: You did it, the act itself, and the intent. So
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  Speaker 1: she's going to argue that she was the victim here
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  Speaker 1: and that this was a fraud that was perpetrated against her,
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  Speaker 1: that she didn't know she had married this family member,
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  Speaker 1: potentially her brother. Now, all of us are going to
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  Speaker 1: understand that that is crazy because But I think there
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  Speaker 1: will be a bunch of Democrats that will trot out
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  Speaker 1: on television and say that she is being targeted because
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  Speaker 1: she's Somali, that this is President Trump and his Department
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  Speaker 1: of Justice being racist, that there are all sorts of
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  Speaker 1: cultural issues in Somalia with families and names, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a different culture than ours, and Ilhan Omar was a
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  Speaker 1: victim of a fraud perpetrated without being aware that it
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  Speaker 1: was occurring. She may even say, Buck, when I eventually
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  Speaker 1: found out it was occurring, I got divorced because I
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  Speaker 1: was ashamed and embarrassed. Just prepare yourself. She's going to
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  Speaker 1: claim she's a victim when all these details start to
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  Speaker 1: finally come out. Remember, Miranda Devine was on with us
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  Speaker 1: this week saying that there's already been one investigation that
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  Speaker 1: proved that she was married to her brother by a 99.99998% chance,
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  Speaker 1: something like that, based on DNA. I want to tell
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  Speaker 1: yesterday more oil coming out of the Strait of Hormuz
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  Speaker 1: now than ever before this is cut 12.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I had to do something and I look your oil
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: price will be lower than that there's so much oil
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: around and you know today it was announced in the
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Our navy's unbelievable blockade.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: More oil came out of the Hormuz Strait over the
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: last week than at any time previous, including.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Before the war, the start of the war. That's because
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: because of the blockade.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that is big news. Here's something else. I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: think we kind of talked about this. We mentioned yesterday
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that President Trump teed off on LeBron James for pretending
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to do his golf swing during the national anthem and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: being disrespectful in general. The WNBA finals are going on.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I understand that most of you are not following the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: WNBA finals. Spoiler alert. I didn't even know. I am
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: told that they have played three games. I, to be fair,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: have not watched one second of the WNBA. The WNBA
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: finals are underway. Both women's teams, Buck, are refusing to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: be on the court for the national anthem. They are
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: obligated under their contract to be on the court for
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the national anthem. They are both leaving the court before
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the national anthem plays and then coming back out after
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it is over. President Trump, is now aware of that,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and he talked about it, cut 14.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: What's going on with the women's NBA? What's that all about?
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: You know, they'll destroy themselves before they get started because
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: they're just starting to do good, and you have a
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: player here who is very good, who is very helpful
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: for that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: No, it's a big deal going on. They leave the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: court when the national anthems play. What's that all about?
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: You know, the NFL did that for a while and
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: they stopped because people stopped watching the games.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So I think you should do the same thing with
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: women's basketball.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: The problem with women's basketball is, Clay, it already effectively
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: operates like a charity of the NBA. And so the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: market speaking would be a market whisperer. No one's going
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to notice or care because so few people notice or
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: care in the first place. And I've started to think
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: maybe the WNBA just realizes the only way they even
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: get media attention is doing this kind of stuff.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Like this is, it's a PR stunt. Is that possible?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Instead of it really being ideological, there's like, well, people
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: will talk about us because it's so dumb and it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: not going to bring any new. No, it's just that
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they really think they're, they just hate America. Like why
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: does the WNBA hate America?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: The, the, I look, I have so many thoughts on this.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So in general, um, The analogy I've made before, Buck,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: is when someone comes into your organization and looks different
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: than people who have come before, then there can be apprehension.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: If that person comes in and is immediately doing an
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: awesome job at making your business better, regardless of what
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the background of that person is, you should get behind
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and support them Because the goal of any for-profit organization
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is to make more money, get more attention. I'll give
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you examples in sports. Tiger Woods didn't look like most
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: PGA golfers. He came to the PGA. Was there maybe
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit of tension because he's a new guy,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and the new guy gets all the attention?
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: But then Tiger Woods brought record-breaking audiences, and everybody started
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: making more money, and the PGA Tour leaned into Tiger
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Woods like crazy. How about the UFC? Ronda Rousey. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: don't know how much you watch the UFC, Buck. I'm
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: not a huge UFC guy. I'll watch when it's a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: really big fight. I bought on pay-per-view Ronda Rousey fights
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: because she was dominating others to such a degree that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is kind of badass. For a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: couple of years there, Ronda Rousey was the biggest draw
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: in the UFC. Oh, by the way, also helped that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: she was good looking. This is not a new thing, everybody.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Not a new thing. Didn't hurt. But what did the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: UFC do? They leaned into Ronda Rousey like crazy. They
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: promoted her. Venus and Serena Williams. You know this. Tennis.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Venus and Serena Williams looked very different than the average
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: tennis player. Hold on. I got to jump in. This
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: is important.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I was forced, not forced, but everybody in the audience
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: is forced to watch Venus Williams play at the U.S.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Open this year.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Even though she's like, but just because of.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Way over the hill, like way beyond the USTA worships
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the Williams sisters. to the point where they will still
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: give Venus Williams a draw at the U.S. Open to
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: get absolutely smoked, absolutely smoked in the first round. I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: they might as well pull a random grandmother out of
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the stadium and just be like, here's a tennis racket.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's absurd, but.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: They worship the Williams sisters. It's a little annoying, actually,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: but put that aside.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Those are actually really good examples in the world of
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: sports of golf fans UFC and the WTA leaning into
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: new talent that look different. Trump is talking there in Iowa,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: which is where Caitlin Clark is from. I don't think
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it's coincidental. He has good political instincts that he brought
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: up the WNBA hating Caitlin Clark. because she's white and straight.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I think he could go further, honestly, if I were
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: giving the president talking points here. I would lean even
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: more into it and say the WNBA would rather be
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a black lesbian league that nobody watches than have a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: white straight woman be one of the centerpieces of the league.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: And this is why I don't think it's intentional, Buck. Yes,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they get more attention, but this is what identity politics does.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It destroys everything because it breaks us all down into
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: our immutable characteristics that we don't choose. I think the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: things that we don't choose are the least interesting about us, right? Like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you didn't choose to be a white guy. I didn't
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: choose to be a white guy. Yeah, I happen to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: be a white guy, but if you said... All that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: matters is Clay being a white guy. That's pretty boring.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: If all that matters is you being black and gay
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: or somebody being Filipino or Hispanic or whatever the heck
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you want to point to identity, none of us choose.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And the WNBA, all it cares about is identity. And
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: so they would rather fail. And this is, I think,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: indicative of the Democrat Party, too, than actually treat people
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: as individuals and just celebrate excellence.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So I go at an additional level or a slightly
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: different pathway, Clay, on the DEI analysis because it's not just, yes,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it does break everything. I totally agree with you. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: it always ends in this sort of corrosive reality. But
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: really what we have is DEI and before that affirmative
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: action and just the whole culture of wokeness, all these
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: different iterations of it is really just everyone gets to
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: be tribal in their identity and tribal with their race
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and and push people of their race and of their
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: identity to jobs, push them for admissions, push them for everything,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: except straight white people. That's really what DEI actually is.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Everybody else gets to be like, well, as a fill-in-the-blank person,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I want to help those people. And by the way,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: this has come up big time in the H-1B discussion with,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: it's very clear that Indian American immigrants to America are,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: were at the expense of all other immigrants, privileging other
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Indian immigrants, right? And again, say whatever, we can get
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: into more details about, you know, oh, and who else
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: does this, everything else. The point is, everybody gets to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: do this in American life in different ways. Gay people
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: get to do it different ways. The only people who
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: are not allowed to be like, you know what? I'm
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: going to help the people who look like me. Straight
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: white people. Everyone else gets it. Women get to do it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: So it's really straight white.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Guys, actually. I would say it's just white guys. It's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: just straight white guys.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: That's the only correction I was going to make. Women
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: can do it with other women, but every race can
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: do it. Everybody can do it except straight white guys.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And straight white guys, the whole time this happens, are
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: all told, hey, you've actually had it easy. You actually
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: didn't earn anything. You actually need to give me, this group, more.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And our generation, Clay, is the first one that's like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: we're done with this, actually.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Sorry, boomers.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I know some of you boomers are going to get
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: mad about this. But the boomers didn't have to deal
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: with this. Our generation did have to deal with it,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and we saw the reality. I saw kids from the
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: bottom of my class get into Harvard because they were
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: black or Latino. I saw Asian kids that were far
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: better students get rejected at every Ivy League school. Over
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and over. I saw this with hiring on Wall Street.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I saw this with admissions into law school. Clay, good
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: on the list. I saw it with job promotions. Seen
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it everywhere. Now it's illegal, but we're still filtering this
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: out of our society. And the WNBA, to bring it
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: full circle, is the province of minority lesbians. And they
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: are saying, we get to control this thing. This is
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: our thing. We get to promote them, each other above
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: all else. That's what's happening.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my favorite ways to kind of boil
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: it down is if you were born since 1980, you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have actually benefited from racism. You haven't been discriminated against
• 28:52
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  Speaker 1: Do your part in Red Pillow Liberal today. Welcome back in,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. We are rolling through the Friday edition
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of the program. Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besson is
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: going to join us, by the way, in the third
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: hour of the program to talk a lot of your
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and our economic questions as it is currently underway. We
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: are joined now, however, by Michael O'Keefe, Chief Investment Strategy
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: at Stiefel Market. Sightlines with Michael is what we are
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: doing here. And with the midterms approaching out there, what
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: election outcome should investors watch? Does it matter from an
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: investment perspective what happens in 11 days?
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, in 11 days.
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: And guys, thanks for having me.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it matters a bit.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: What should we watch for?
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: Well, number one, by historic standards, we expect the House
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: to flip, right? Typically goes against the president in the midterms.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: And then really the more focus is on the Senate,
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: where it's really a toss-up. Our chief strategist, Brian Gardner,
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: basically is calling for about a 40% to 45% chance
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: of a Senate flip. And therefore, then you have divided government, right?
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: So there's a filibuster in the Senate, and then there's
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: the veto power. So not a lot gets done. in
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: that scenario.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Looking past the election, Michael, what's on your mind? What
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: should people look to when it comes to their investments
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: based on who they expect to win this midterm?
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great question. So first, let's say one
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: of the things we're experiencing before the election is volatility.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: So just in general, there's a little bit of a
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: calming as the uncertainty fades and we have a little
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: bit more clarity on where things are headed. But as
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: I say, with this very sort of divided and tight
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: narrow margins, not a lot's going to get done. So
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: what are we going to be watching for? Number one,
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: budget negotiations. The budget has to get done. So there's
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: a risk of a shutdown and that creates some volatility.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Number two, there will be eventually, maybe about a year
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: from now, debt ceiling. The debt ceiling needs to be increased.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: But ultimately, what we try to do is separate the
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: politics from policy. And there's not a lot of policy change.
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: So there'll be other drivers, you know, really influencing the
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: markets going forward.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Michael O'Keefe, chief investment officer at
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Stiefel with Market Sidelines.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Brett in Florida,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: News Radio WFLA.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: You know, she might try to claim she's a victim,
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: but you're a lawyer, right, Clay? Saying you don't understand
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: or don't know something is a law. is not an
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: excuse to break that law. Just because you don't know
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: it or don't understand it, you are still liable for
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: the law you broke. Am I not wrong in that?
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You're wrong about that in some ways. Yeah, unfortunately. Look,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: there are strict liability laws. I get that this gets
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: into the weeds in which you are correct, right? So
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: if you, and we used this as an example before
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: because it's an easy one, but if you sleep with
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: someone who is underage in your state, and she lies
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: to you and says, actually, I'm 19, and it turns
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: out she was 16, you are guilty because that's a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: strict liability offense. Here, what I am telling you, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: think Ilhan Omar is going to argue, is that she
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: had this fraud perpetrated against her. In other words, she
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: is going to say that she did, again, she's already
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: saying it, she did not have knowledge that she was
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: engaging in in this act because he lied to her.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And under this immigration law, that might provide some defense.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: This is also a potential defense. Jeff in Nebraska on
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: KFAB in the Omaha area. Cut G.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Hey, Clay and Buck.
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: Years ago when I worked at an insurance company, we
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: had Somalis come in to get their car insurance and
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: they would always use one January for a birth and
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: then they estimated the year because there were no actual
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: records kept for them to know when they were really born.
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: I would say Ilhan Omar is going to pull that
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: out of her hat and say, I had no idea
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: he was my brother because we don't keep good records
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: in Somalia.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: That's right. I think that's probably going to be a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: part of the defense.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what she's going to say. She's going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: basically take the mens rea component of this and run
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: with it, which is that she had no idea.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Look at you, sounding like a lawyer there. Hey, that's right.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Wendy in Texas. Fire away, Wendy.
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: America woman grew up in Earth, Texas, and I'm going
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: to see Trump. And you guys are doing a great job.
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: And Calrico is going down.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I love that Wendy brought the energy. Thank you for calling, Wendy.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you for getting out and voting, going to see
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the president at the rallies coming up. I love when
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: callers come in and just they're doing WWE promos, Buck.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Wendy is fired up. She got her ballot in. Go
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: get your ballot in and be as fired up while
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you're doing it as Wendy is.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I think Wendy, she wants a permanent caller nickname like
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Light Em Up Linda. She knows that now callers can
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: become recurring cast, recurring characters in the Clay and Buck universe.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So she's doing a good job, I got to tell you.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: We'll remember Wendy. Thank you, Wendy. RJ in Minnesota, he's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: got a question for us. RJ, fire away.
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, first of all, I've got a PSA for everybody.
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: My intention was to go out and vote today, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: I got sidetracked, so I did not. But get out
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: and vote early, because if you get sidetracked on Election Day, there's.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Not another day. Amen.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Amen. That's why I do it. And then what you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: got for us?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: See how he did that all nice? He didn't bully
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: everybody like someone I know. I can't even imagine who
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. RJ, you had a question, too.
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so I don't vote in Omar's district, but I
• 36:10
  Speaker 11: am from Minnesota, and I'm going to vote for Tafoya,
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: and hopefully she wins. If Omar gets elected, which is
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: likely because in her district there is a lot of
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: people like her, and then gets convicted after she's elected,
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: will Tafoya replace her?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: All that is great questions. We'll talk about it, give
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you an answer when we come back.