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They Just Said the Quiet Part Out Loud | Episode 213 · V

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Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to Vince on a Wednesday. Great to have
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Speaker 1: you with us.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a close look at new information
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Speaker 2: that we just found out about Alex Preddy, what he
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Speaker 2: was really up to in the week leading up to
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Speaker 2: his death in Minnesota. The details on that, they matter.
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Speaker 2: And of course, the media has basically elided them for
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Speaker 2: the most part. We'll also get a look at what
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Speaker 2: has changed in the Trump administration's relationship with Minnesota, tampon
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Speaker 2: Tim Walz, Jacob Fry.
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Speaker 1: Finally, meeting with Tom Homan.
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Speaker 2: We'll get the aftermath of And also the left is, well, psychopathic.
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Speaker 1: We've got details on that.
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Speaker 2: And Ilhan Omar sprayed with a mystery substance at a
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Speaker 2: town hall in Minnesota this week. What the hell was
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Speaker 2: that about? And what should we be talking about as
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Speaker 2: it relates to Ilhan Omar?
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Speaker 1: Man, I've got it all. We're going to try to
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Speaker 1: cover all of it.
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Speaker 2: And then finally, the big guest today that I need
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Speaker 2: you to know about is a retired Green Beret who's
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Speaker 2: going to be joining us. He went mega viral this
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Speaker 2: week for his assessment of what is happening in Minnesota.
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Speaker 2: He said, I've seen this before. I've seen this in
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Speaker 2: enemy territory. This is an insurgency and it has arrived
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Speaker 2: in the United States of America.
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Speaker 1: Eric Schwamm will join us.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to him about everything that he's seeing and
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Speaker 2: let's begin with Alex Preddy. We get a bunch of
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Speaker 2: brand new information on what the hell that guy was
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Speaker 2: up to Remember, everybody was describing him as a simple
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Speaker 2: ICU nurse who was directing traffic. He was an observer.
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Speaker 2: He was just capturing video. He was at a peaceful
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Speaker 2: protest and he brought his gun to it. And, of course,
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Speaker 2: all of that amounted to a series of endless lies
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Speaker 2: about what he was up to. We would later find
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Speaker 2: out that this guy was a routine left wing rioter.
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Speaker 2: In fact, he was out during the 2020 George Floyd riots,
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Speaker 2: participating in them, his family members.
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Speaker 1: Would later disclose.
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Speaker 2: His ex-wife said he was the kind of guy who
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Speaker 2: would definitely shout in the faces of law enforcement, but
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Speaker 2: she didn't imagine that he would get physical with them.
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Speaker 1: But the record on this now demonstrates that.
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Speaker 2: Actually he did get physical multiple times with law enforcement,
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Speaker 2: and that includes a week before his death in Minnesota. Now,
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Speaker 2: this report comes to us yesterday by way of CNN.
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Speaker 2: So the clip I'm about to play for you is
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Speaker 2: going to give This man, Alex Preddy, the most charitable
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Speaker 2: possible interpretation. They're going to describe him as merely driving
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Speaker 2: along in his car. He saw ICE chasing someone, and
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Speaker 2: then he decided to get out of his car, to
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Speaker 2: be a good Samaritan, to intervene, to help the person
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Speaker 2: that ICE was chasing. You understand why all of this
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Speaker 2: is so ridiculous. Obviously, if law enforcement is in pursuit
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Speaker 2: of a suspect, the last thing you want to be
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Speaker 2: doing is diving in front of them to try and
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Speaker 2: prevent that from happening. So things, according to CNN, got physical,
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Speaker 2: so physical that Alex Preddy had his rib broken in
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Speaker 2: the scuffle. I'm sorry, just because he was standing there?
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Listen to CNN describe this yesterday.
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Speaker 3: What exactly transpired a week before Alex Preddy was shot
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Speaker 3: in Minneapolis and died this past weekend? Now, in this
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Speaker 3: earlier incident, he stopped his car after observing ICE agents
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Speaker 3: chasing what he described as a family on foot and
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Speaker 3: began shouting and blowing his whistle. Preddy later told one
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Speaker 3: of these sources that five agents tackled him and one
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Speaker 3: leaned on his back, appearing shocked. to leave him with
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Speaker 3: a broken rib. According to this source, and I'm quoting here,
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Speaker 3: that source said, quote, that day he thought he was
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Speaker 3: going to die. Now, Freddie was later given medication that
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Speaker 3: is consistent with treating a broken rib, according to records
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Speaker 3: reviewed by CNN. Sources also say that he was known
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Speaker 3: to federal law enforcement, though it's unclear whether it was
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Speaker 3: this incident or another with federal agents that they knew
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Speaker 3: of him.
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Speaker 1: So wait a second. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Pause. Wasn't it just a few days ago that we
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Speaker 2: were told his only interaction with law enforcement is that
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Speaker 2: he had received parking tickets? Wasn't that the the the
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Speaker 2: media narrative on this guy? Just parking tickets. There's nothing
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Speaker 2: serious in his background. He just he just stayed past
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Speaker 2: the limit on the meter a couple of times.
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Speaker 1: But but that's it. Hold on.
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Speaker 2: This guy was known to federal law enforcement. He was
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Speaker 2: getting into physical scuffles with them. He broke his ribs
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Speaker 2: wrestling with cops. That's that's the story on this. Now,
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Speaker 2: there are elements to this that sound very suspicious. If
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Speaker 2: you're in a position where you're wrestling with cops, why
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Speaker 2: wasn't he then arrested? He wrestled with cops and then
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Speaker 2: broke a rib. The whole thing sounds so bizarre. But
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Speaker 2: the story apparently from CNN, their charitable interpretation of events is, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this happened all the time. OK, so this dude is
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Speaker 2: an insurrectionist, as has been established by a never ending
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Speaker 2: public record. And that led to his untimely death this
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Speaker 2: past weekend, where he decided to interfere with law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: And in the process, in that chaos, he lost his life.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, the President Trump is looking into, he's got an
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Speaker 2: administration investigation going into the details of how that occurred.
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Speaker 2: But there's no question that Freddie would still be alive
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Speaker 2: today were it not for his insurgency. And the rest
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Speaker 2: now is becoming history. That insurgency will be the subject
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Speaker 2: of my conversation today. coming up with a retired Green
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Speaker 2: Beret who's detected all of this. He goes, man, I've
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Speaker 2: seen this happen before in war zones.
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Speaker 1: I know what this is.
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Speaker 2: I know how these command and control operations work. I
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Speaker 2: know how they try to make it diffuse. I know
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Speaker 2: how they gather intelligence. I know how they mobilize the
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Speaker 2: radicals in order to sow chaos and cause trouble. This
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Speaker 2: looks very familiar. This is an insurgency here in the
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Speaker 2: United States of America.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 2: But one of the guys they mobilized clearly was Alex Preddy.
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Speaker 2: Alex Preddy only out on that street because he was
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Speaker 2: mobilized by that very insurgency, by that very command and control.
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Speaker 2: They've been admitted inside of that ridiculous signal chat that's
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Speaker 2: now under investigation by Kash Patel and the FBI that, yes,
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Speaker 2: Alex Preddy was one of theirs.
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Speaker 1: That's why he was there. Otherwise, how would he have known?
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Speaker 2: How would Alex Preddy have known to stand outside of
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Speaker 2: that donut shop on that street corner menacing those officers
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Speaker 2: at that time? It's because he was mobilized by the
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Speaker 2: radical left. And now he lost his life as a
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Speaker 2: result of it.
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Speaker 1: That event, of.
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Speaker 2: Course, was a turning point in what's going on in
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Speaker 2: Minneapolis because it led President Trump to get personally involved.
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Speaker 2: So President Trump then decides, you know what? Get these
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Speaker 2: guys on the horn. I have to talk to them now.
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Speaker 2: He gets tampon Tim Walz on the phone. He gets
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Speaker 2: Mayor Jacob Fry on the phone. He starts to develop
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Speaker 2: these conversations and these relationships. And he goes, guys, I
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Speaker 2: need you to work with me. We've got to resolve this.
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Speaker 2: I can't have more people dying.
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Speaker 1: This is your fault. And the guys now claim that
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Speaker 1: they're working with him. Okay, we'll work with him.
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Speaker 2: So Tom Holman jets off to Minnesota now two nights ago.
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Speaker 2: And yesterday morning, nine o'clock sharp, he shows up at
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Speaker 2: the governor's office to meet with tampon Tim Walls because
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Speaker 2: Tom Holman's on a mission. Tom Holman's not a flashy guy.
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Speaker 2: Tom Holman's not looking for publicity. Tom Holman's not looking
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Speaker 2: to prove himself or strut around or anything. He's just
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Speaker 2: looking to win, to win. And I talked a bit
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Speaker 2: yesterday with you about how Greg Bovino- who I think
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Speaker 2: has been wonderful with the Border Patrol. He's leaving the
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Speaker 2: state of Minnesota. Tom Holman is coming in to run
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Speaker 2: the operations. There are some people who are interpreting this
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Speaker 2: as somehow like, oh, that's a setback or this is
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Speaker 2: like this is some sort of retreat or surrender. I'm
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Speaker 2: not even sure how you can arrive at that conclusion,
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Speaker 2: if that's what you're thinking, because Tom Holman is tough
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Speaker 2: as frigging nails. Sending in Tom Holman is not the
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Speaker 2: way you give up the immigration mission. It's the way
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Speaker 2: you say, I want to see this done correctly.
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Speaker 1: I want to win. So you send in Holman.
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Speaker 2: So Holman reports directly to the president of the United States,
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Speaker 2: goes in yesterday, and he meets with Tampon Tim and
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Speaker 2: he meets with Jacob Fry. And here's what Holman had
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Speaker 2: to say about the meetings. I'm going to start with
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Speaker 2: him because I fully believe that the Democrats are lying
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Speaker 2: as they give their readouts.
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Speaker 1: Here's what Holman said.
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Speaker 2: Today, I met with Governor Walz, Mayor Fry, and top
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Speaker 2: law enforcement officials to discuss the issues on the.
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Speaker 1: Ground in Minnesota.
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Speaker 2: We all agree that we need to support our law
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Speaker 2: enforcement officers. and get criminals off the streets. While we
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Speaker 2: don't agree on everything, these meetings were a productive starting point,
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Speaker 2: and I look forward to more conversations with key stakeholders
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Speaker 2: in the days ahead. President Trump has been clear. He
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Speaker 2: wants American cities to be safe and secure for law-abiding residents,
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Speaker 2: and they will be, said Tom Holman. Well, that's a promise,
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Speaker 2: and I expect Holman will keep it. American cities will
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Speaker 2: be safe and secure for law-abiding residents. They will be,
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Speaker 2: he promises.
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Speaker 1: That's good news. But you hear Holman say something in
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Speaker 1: that there's some disagreements. We don't agree on everything. Well,
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Speaker 1: what's the holdup? Well, the holdup by.
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Speaker 2: Jacob Fry's own disclosure appears to be that they don't
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Speaker 2: intend to turn over bad guys. So, yes, did we
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Speaker 2: see local law enforcement finally intervene this week for the
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Speaker 2: first time after Donald Trump made that phone call?
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Speaker 1: Yes, we did.
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Speaker 2: When President Trump got on the horn with these guys,
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Speaker 2: suddenly they're snapping to they're making arrests. They realize that
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Speaker 2: peril lies ahead if they don't play ball, including criminal prosecution,
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Speaker 2: to be very clear. These guys are under federal investigation
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Speaker 2: right now for obstructing federal law enforcement. So the president's
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Speaker 2: got that hanging over their heads. Good. Use it as leverage.
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Speaker 2: Force them to clean up our states. And that's what's
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Speaker 2: happening right now in Minnesota. But Jacob Fry said this
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Speaker 2: about his Tom Holman conversation yesterday. Here's how he described it.
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Speaker 2: He said, today, Chief O'Hara, Minneapolis Police Department, he's been terrible.
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Speaker 2: Chief O'Hara and I met with Border Czar Holman, and
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Speaker 2: had a productive conversation. I reiterated that my main ask
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Speaker 2: is for Operation Metro Surge to end as quickly as possible,
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Speaker 2: meaning they want immigration enforcement out. You know how that happens?
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Speaker 2: You clean up the city. You cooperate with the Trump administration.
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Speaker 2: Jacob Fry says, quote, public safety works best when it's
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Speaker 2: built on community trust, not tactics that create fear or division,
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Speaker 2: which is, of course, what Minneapolis is guilty of, what
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Speaker 2: Jacob Fry is guilty of, creating fear and division, fear
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Speaker 2: of of constitutional, lawful, decent law enforcement. That's what he's doing.
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Speaker 2: He's creating fear and division. Fry goes on, I share
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Speaker 2: with Mr. Holman the serious negative impacts this operation has
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Speaker 2: had on Minneapolis.
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Speaker 4: Jackass.
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Speaker 2: As well as the strain it has placed on our
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Speaker 2: local police officers. The strain, yeah, I'll tell you what
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Speaker 2: the strain is. The strain is local cops who want
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Speaker 2: to do their jobs being told to stand down rather
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Speaker 2: than bring peace to their communities. That's the strain. you
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Speaker 2: colossal jackass, Jacob Fry. And then he finishes this way.
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Speaker 2: I also made it clear that Minneapolis does not and
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Speaker 2: will not enforce federal immigration laws and that we will
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Speaker 2: remain focused on keeping our neighbors and streets safe. City
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Speaker 2: leaders will continue to stay in conversation with Mr. Holman
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Speaker 2: and his team. So let me, first of all, somebody,
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Speaker 2: somebody is raising a point.
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Speaker 1: In our chat.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to address real quick. What did it, uh,
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Speaker 2: Eda Ray says, uh, No, Vince, it was not Minneapolis police.
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Speaker 2: It was a near suburbs police department. Yeah, you're right
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Speaker 2: about that, about how this was a nearby suburban police department, Ida,
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Speaker 2: who were involved. But additionally, the Minneapolis State Patrol, that's
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Speaker 2: the state police in Minnesota, excuse me, the Minnesota State
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Speaker 2: Patrol was also involved. In other words, the state cops
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Speaker 2: who work ultimately for Tampon Tim Walls were making arrests
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Speaker 2: two nights ago.
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Speaker 1: That's a sea change. It's not merely a suburban police department.
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Speaker 2: It's also the state police who are finally having the
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Speaker 2: handcuffs taken off of them because President Trump got involved.
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Speaker 1: That's an important detail.
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Speaker 2: Now, when you when you just heard Jacob Fry say
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Speaker 2: is we're not going to enforce federal immigration law. First
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Speaker 2: of all, nobody's asking you to enforce federal immigration law.
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Speaker 2: It's not your job, you jackass. It's not your job,
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Speaker 2: your job. is to be a good partner to the feds.
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Speaker 2: Your job is to hand over the bad guys to
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Speaker 2: the feds. Your job is not to obstruct federal immigration law.
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Speaker 2: You have nothing to do with enforcing federal immigration law.
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Speaker 2: All you have to do is hand off the people
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Speaker 2: who are causing so much calamity in your community to
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Speaker 2: the Trump administration, and they'll take it from there. So
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Speaker 2: stop with this, oh, we don't enforce federal immigration laws.
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Speaker 1: No kidding.
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Speaker 2: You're not supposed to. You're not even involved in it.
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Speaker 2: Just hand the guys over. And that's really the problem.
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Speaker 2: These guys to this very day are trying to protect
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Speaker 2: illegals who are in their community for whatever their intent is,
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Speaker 2: whether to exploit them as underpaid labor or to use
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Speaker 2: them for votes or to use them to pad their
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Speaker 2: electoral college advantages or use them to pad their congressional seats.
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Speaker 2: Whatever they want to use them for is not for you.
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Speaker 2: It's not to benefit you. It's merely a cruel piece
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Speaker 2: of power calculus that Democrats are doing, not just in Minnesota,
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Speaker 2: but all across our country. So as Tom Holman goes
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Speaker 2: in there, this is the crap that he has to
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Speaker 2: deal with. And President Trump, we haven't heard a lot
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Speaker 2: from Tom Holman about this because Holman just gave us
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Speaker 2: a basic readout. But President Trump has weighed in on this.
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Speaker 2: And here's what he said this morning on all of this.
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Speaker 2: He said that Jacob Fry is playing with fire. He said, surprisingly,
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Speaker 2: Mayor Jacob Fry just stated that Minneapolis does not and
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Speaker 2: will not enforce federal immigration laws. This is after having
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Speaker 2: a very good conversation with him, says the president. Could
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Speaker 2: somebody in his inner sanctum, could somebody in his inner
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Speaker 2: sanctum please explain that this statement is a very serious
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Speaker 2: violation of the law and that he is playing with fire? Look,
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Speaker 2: Jacob Fry is already under investigation for obstructing federal law enforcement.
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Speaker 2: If you need more evidence that that's his interest, look
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Speaker 2: no further than this tweet, this ex-post that Fry put
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Speaker 2: out yesterday. There's more evidence of that. And He should
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Speaker 2: live with the consequences of his actions. Prosecute him then,
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Speaker 2: would you? Prosecute him, Mr.
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Speaker 1: President.
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Speaker 2: Additionally, leave on the table the possibility that this is
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Speaker 2: all going to collapse because you're dealing with dishonest people
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Speaker 2: on the other side of the table. Tom Holman may
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Speaker 2: be an intimidating figure to put in the room with them,
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Speaker 2: and no doubt he is. You know that tampon Tim
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Speaker 2: Walz is quaking in his boots when he's sitting across
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Speaker 2: from Tom Holman. Holman is the alpha when he walks
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Speaker 2: into that room. Walz is the beta. And Jacob Fry,
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Speaker 2: he's the whatever comes after beta. I mean, these guys
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Speaker 2: are ridiculous. Tom Holman's clearly in charge, but you cannot
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Speaker 2: underestimate how dishonest these goons are. So at some point,
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Speaker 2: if and when some aspect of this meaningfully fails, the
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Speaker 2: president should continue to have on the table, and he does,
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Speaker 2: he hasn't taken it off the table, the Insurrection Act.
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Speaker 2: If local law enforcement, if local laws are not being enforced,
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Speaker 2: you have to do something. And that something is use
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Speaker 2: the powers that are given to you by the founders
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Speaker 2: of our country in our constitution and in law from
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Speaker 2: the very beginning of our country, the insurrection act that
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Speaker 2: continues to be available.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Fry is the fry is a cock. So it goes, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Alpha beta cock. I think that's the, I think that's
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Speaker 2: the way it goes. Is it the Greek alphabet? Is
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Speaker 2: that a, I don't remember that, but I guess cock
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Speaker 2: is now the, uh, is the proper order of things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So we get, uh, home is the alpha walls is
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Speaker 2: the beta fries.
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Speaker 4: The cock. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's funny. Thank you, Chad. I knew you'd come
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Speaker 1: through for me. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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Speaker 2: So what is Tampon Tim saying? Tampon Tim's doing the circuit.
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Speaker 2: So despite the fact that he's claiming, oh, we have
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Speaker 2: a very productive relationship going on. He just did some
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Speaker 2: lefty podcast yesterday. And on the lefty podcast, you ready
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Speaker 2: for this? Speaking of beta Tim Walls, he says he
17:52
Speaker 2: could beat the shit out of Vice President J.D.
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Speaker 4: Vance.
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Speaker 1: You ready for this? Prepare yourselves. Please don't have a
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Speaker 1: drink in your mouth. You might do a spit take.
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Speaker 1: Here we go. Tampon Tim, cut to.
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Speaker 5: I would beat the shit out of him now if
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Speaker 5: I could, and I would call that out. I mean,
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Speaker 5: that's just different. In verbally going at it, my argument
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Speaker 5: is much better. In making the case that housing prices
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Speaker 5: are up because of immigration and that we should build
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Speaker 5: on federal lands, it was such a crazy thing. But
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Speaker 5: then when I watched him, I got sucked into that.
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Speaker 5: And if you remember, this was right in that moment
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Speaker 5: of eating dogs and cats. I took that bait and
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Speaker 5: thought that that was the argument of how outrageous it was.
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Speaker 5: That was not the argument.
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Speaker 1: He's apologetic. I love that. If you've heard Tim Moss
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Speaker 1: talk about that debate with J.D.
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Speaker 2: Vance where he got his ass handed to him by J.D.,
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Speaker 2: And he's always apologizing to them, always, always sucking up
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Speaker 2: The guy is a beta coward who keeps letting that happen.
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Speaker 2: And that was on display yesterday. I love that, though. Oh,
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19:39
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19:55
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19:58
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20:07
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20:10
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Speaker 2: He's got to come up with some way to cover
20:19
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20:21
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20:24
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Speaker 1: That could be fun. Hilarious.
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Speaker 1: You know, we've got.
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Speaker 2: We've got some craziness going on. So Ilhan Omar is
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Speaker 2: doing a town hall yesterday, Hennepin County. This is Minneapolis area.
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Speaker 2: And she's in the middle of a town hall. And
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Speaker 2: right as she declares that she wants Kristi Noem to resign,
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Speaker 2: as she's saying, we got to get rid of Kristi Noem.
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Speaker 2: At that moment, she glances up for a fraction of
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Speaker 2: a second to someone in the audience.
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Speaker 1: She glances back down at her paper.
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Speaker 2: And then this dude who looks like a complete psychopath,
22:37
Speaker 2: rushes the lectern, and then sprays her. He empties out
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Speaker 2: one of these plastic syringes that is full of some
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Speaker 2: sort of unknown liquid, and it freaks everybody in the
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Speaker 2: room out.
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Speaker 1: But then watch Elhan's reaction. Just listen to this. Watch
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Speaker 1: the video if you're watching us, rumble.com slash Vince, and
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Speaker 1: then we'll assess it on the other side. Watch this.
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Speaker 6: Terry Christie Noem must resign or face impeachment.
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Speaker 4: You're not resigning. You're not resigning.
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Speaker 2: He sprays her, hits her right in the shirt. She
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Speaker 2: rushes in his direction. Isn't that kind of a weird reaction?
23:16
Speaker 2: She starts running towards him like she's going to hit him.
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Speaker 1: Am I understanding that correctly? She raises her fist. Security
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Speaker 1: tackles the guy.
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Speaker 4: And she's insisting.
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Speaker 5: And everyone around her correctly is assessing.
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Speaker 3: Hold on a second.
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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Speaker 6: Pause.
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Speaker 2: And when I first watched this, I had the same reaction.
23:53
Speaker 2: Hold dude, that dude just sprayed you with something. You
23:56
Speaker 2: have no idea what that is. It was a chemical.
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Speaker 2: Is it, is it an acid?
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Speaker 1: Is it meant to be some sort of like, you know, whatever.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
24:06
Speaker 2: The point is I'd be rushing off. If I was her,
24:09
Speaker 2: I'd get out of that room as quickly as possible.
24:11
Speaker 2: I'd shed that sweater. The last thing I want to
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Speaker 2: do is keep the sweater on. That's got that unknown
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Speaker 2: substance all over it. I definitely would wash my skin
24:18
Speaker 2: off anywhere.
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Speaker 1: It made contact.
24:19
Speaker 2: I'd be, very attentive to quickly trying to resolve whatever
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Speaker 2: this unknown substance was.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like, what the, what the hell is this?
24:28
Speaker 2: And instead she's just like, no, no. She rushes at
24:31
Speaker 2: him to try and strike him. And then she goes
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Speaker 2: back to the lectern and refuses all of the good
24:38
Speaker 2: advice she's getting around her to go get, go get
24:40
Speaker 2: this taken care of. And she's like, no, I'm going
24:42
Speaker 2: to keep speaking. I'm not going to let this asshole
24:44
Speaker 2: stop me. And so immediately the whole internet was saying,
24:49
Speaker 2: this is fraud.
24:50
Speaker 1: This is fake. This isn't a real attack. This is
24:53
Speaker 1: a hoax. Everybody's assessing.
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Speaker 2: We're watching this last night. I mean, huge numbers of
24:57
Speaker 2: people looking at this guy. I don't believe you. And
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Speaker 2: if you don't believe Ilhan Omar, and who knows, perhaps
25:04
Speaker 2: we'll find out what happened here. Look, let me just
25:06
Speaker 2: say something really quick about this. Hennepin County arrested that
25:09
Speaker 2: guy and booked him in jail last night like that.
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Speaker 1: That's Minneapolis. Hennepin County booked him in seconds last night.
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Speaker 1: They're charging him with third-degree assault.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
25:20
Speaker 1: So are you.
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Speaker 2: Telling me that Hennepin County, Minneapolis can rapidly arrest and
25:25
Speaker 2: book into jail criminals?
25:27
Speaker 1: Yes, they can.
25:28
Speaker 2: They can do it in no time if they're doing
25:30
Speaker 2: it on behalf of Democrats apparently. But if it comes
25:32
Speaker 2: to defending the population from crimes by illegal aliens or
25:36
Speaker 2: defending immigration enforcement from lunatics who are harassing them and
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Speaker 2: assaulting them, then they're going to drag ass and perhaps
25:43
Speaker 2: never enforce the law. That's the different justice systems going
25:47
Speaker 2: on in Hennepin County right now. But this idea that
25:50
Speaker 2: maybe this was a hoax, there's a reason people believe that.
25:53
Speaker 2: There's a reason that that's a thought process that's running
25:55
Speaker 2: through your mind. And it's because, one, the left broadly
26:00
Speaker 2: tells these kinds of lies on a regular basis. But two,
26:03
Speaker 2: and more specifically, Ilhan Omar's career has been defined by fraud,
26:09
Speaker 2: including the 2019 marriage to her own brother that was
26:13
Speaker 2: clearly designed to get him into the country under the
26:16
Speaker 2: false pretense of being married to her. So the woman
26:21
Speaker 2: is a fraudster. That's been the pattern. When she's caught
26:25
Speaker 2: being anti-Semitic, she pretends like that's not actually what she meant.
26:29
Speaker 2: She describes 9-11 as nothing more than some people did something.
26:33
Speaker 1: She's a scam artist.
26:35
Speaker 2: And then additionally, this stuff about her finances is very
26:41
Speaker 2: interesting to me. And there's something in the timeline that
26:45
Speaker 2: I think you need to know about that I haven't
26:46
Speaker 2: really seen seen at all receiving the attention that i
26:50
Speaker 2: definitely think it deserves and here's what that is by
26:53
Speaker 2: now you know either because you saw it through benny
26:56
Speaker 2: johnson or the washington free beacon or the daily caller
26:58
Speaker 2: there's been some really good reporting on this subject that
27:02
Speaker 2: her wealth has been skyrocketing her financial disclosures have demonstrated
27:08
Speaker 2: that she's got a lot of money in that household
27:11
Speaker 2: we're talking a net worth of in the vicinity of
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Speaker 2: at least 30 million dollars Now, that's a massive change
27:18
Speaker 2: in fortune for her. In the year 2023, she was
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Speaker 2: worth approximately or less.
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Speaker 1: $ 51, 000.
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Speaker 2: On net, $ 51, 000 net worth. By the next year, her
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Speaker 2: net worth was somewhere beneath $ 30 million. Now, these are
27:36
Speaker 2: according to her official congressional disclosures. How do you go
27:40
Speaker 2: from being worth $ 50, 000 one year to being worth $ 30
27:41
Speaker 2: million the next year? Now, here's where the timeline gets
27:47
Speaker 2: super interesting. The 2023 net worth disclosure, $ 51, 000, that was
27:54
Speaker 2: reported in May of 2024. That's customary. Each May, members
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Speaker 2: of Congress, they report their net worth. And she said
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Speaker 2: this in May of 2024, that last year in 23,
28:04
Speaker 2: I was worth 50,000 bucks, okay? In June of 2024,
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Speaker 2: the next month, the Biden Justice Department, you heard me correctly,
28:16
Speaker 2: the Biden Justice Department launched an investigation into her finances.
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Speaker 1: The Biden DOJ.
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Speaker 2: That information was just revealed to us this past week
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Speaker 2: by the New York Times.
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Speaker 1: Fellows, if we can pull this up on screen, look
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Speaker 1: at this.
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Speaker 2: Under the Biden administration, Justice Department began examining Ilhan Omar's finances.
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Speaker 2: At the top of the piece, the New York Times says,
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Speaker 2: that the Justice Department, under the Biden administration, opened an
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Speaker 2: investigation into Representative Ilhan Omar, Democrat of Minnesota, in 2024.
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Speaker 1: When in 2024?
28:52
Speaker 2: And what were they scrutinizing? First of all, they said
28:54
Speaker 2: they were scrutinizing her finances, her campaign spending, and interactions
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Speaker 2: with a foreign citizen, according to people with knowledge of
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Speaker 2: the matter. The inquiry was initiated by the U.S. Attorney's
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Speaker 2: Office in Washington and the department's public integrity unit in
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Speaker 2: June of that year. And it appears to have stalled
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Speaker 2: for lack of evidence, the New York Times claims, according
29:16
Speaker 2: to one of the people who requested anonymity to discuss
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Speaker 2: internal department matters. Okay, so here's what we know. May
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Speaker 2: of 24, she reveals that she was worth 50,000 bucks
29:28
Speaker 2: the prior year. June of 24, the Biden administration launches
29:32
Speaker 2: an investigation into her finances. In other words, something stinks
29:37
Speaker 2: to high Evan. They've detected she's got a lot more
29:39
Speaker 2: income that she's not disclosing. Something strange is going on
29:43
Speaker 2: with the money that that lady is receiving. So strange,
29:45
Speaker 2: the Biden DOJ launches an investigation into it. By the
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Speaker 2: next year, she reports that she's worth upwards of $ 30 million. Suddenly,
29:57
Speaker 2: all of this income that clearly caught the attention of
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Speaker 2: the Biden DOJ, is now being disclosed publicly.
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Speaker 1: But where does she claim the income comes from? She
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Speaker 1: says it comes from a winery. A winery?
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Speaker 3: What?
30:12
Speaker 2: A winery that sells no wine that anybody's aware of,
30:16
Speaker 2: doesn't have a functioning website, doesn't have a functioning number,
30:20
Speaker 2: is not open on weekends.
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Speaker 1: A winery?
30:22
Speaker 2: What is she even talking about? So what does this
30:26
Speaker 2: look like? To me, it looks like a front. To me,
30:30
Speaker 2: it looks like she put a winery on her financial
30:33
Speaker 2: disclosures to pretend that some kind of ill-gotten income was
30:38
Speaker 2: actually from a legitimate business enterprise. But then when you
30:41
Speaker 2: go check it out, nobody's ever heard of the winery,
30:43
Speaker 2: nobody's ever bought it, and yet it's worth millions and
30:45
Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars.
30:47
Speaker 1: Something's not adding up here.
30:49
Speaker 2: And given her history of fraud, it's no wonder we
30:52
Speaker 2: suspect her of committing fraud again. Finally, on this point
30:57
Speaker 2: about the Biden DOJ, the Justice Department ended the investigation, apparently.
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Speaker 1: They tabled it, according to The New York Times.
31:05
Speaker 2: Why would the Biden DOJ table an investigation into one
31:08
Speaker 2: of their allies?
31:09
Speaker 1: Because they did a lot.
31:11
Speaker 2: Remember, the IRS investigation that was being done into the
31:14
Speaker 2: Biden family was tabled. The whistleblowers say it was tabled
31:20
Speaker 2: as they got closer and closer to Joe Biden. Impediments
31:23
Speaker 2: were thrown in their way. to stop that investigation. That's
31:26
Speaker 2: the pattern. Talk about corruption in the Justice Department. That's
31:30
Speaker 2: exactly the way it was under Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: All right.
31:34
Speaker 2: We'll keep revisiting that story, but that's interesting. That's very interesting,
31:40
Speaker 2: as it looks like.
31:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
31:41
Speaker 2: She had a quality leering winery. It was like, it's
31:44
Speaker 2: not a real winery. It's a fake winery. Where's the
31:46
Speaker 2: wine at? It's like a quality leering center. Where are
31:48
Speaker 2: the kids at? What?
31:49
Speaker 1: This isn't real. It's just fraud. Everything is just an
31:52
Speaker 1: endless string of fraud.
31:54
Speaker 4: All right.
31:54
Speaker 2: In a moment, we're going to talk to a retired
31:56
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31:59
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Speaker 2: us on the program today, sir. Thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for joining me.
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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning, Vince. How are you doing?
35:03
Speaker 1: I'm doing very well.
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Speaker 2: And It's not every day that a reply to somebody
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Speaker 2: else's tweet becomes the most viral thing on the whole internet.
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Speaker 2: Did you expect this when you replied to Cam Higby?
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Speaker 2: Cam Higby is writing about all these insurgents, as you
35:16
Speaker 2: so aptly described them, communicating with each other over signal.
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Speaker 1: You saw this and you go, whoa, I recognize that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the key to the whole thing is like
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Speaker 7: recognizing like. As a special forces warrant officer, we're trained
35:32
Speaker 7: to conduct unconventional warfare. So we recognize it for what
35:37
Speaker 7: it is and we can actually appreciate it for what
35:39
Speaker 7: it is. So when I saw what Cam Higby put
35:42
Speaker 7: out there and all credit to Cam going out there
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Speaker 7: and putting himself out front like that, the information he's
35:49
Speaker 7: providing just made the hair on the back of my
35:51
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35:54
Speaker 4: For what it is.
35:56
Speaker 7: I could really appreciate what they're doing, how they're running
36:00
Speaker 7: their operations over there in Minnesota, the communications, the level
36:05
Speaker 7: of networking, the responses, their ability to move around up
36:09
Speaker 7: there in Minnesota and be where they need to be
36:11
Speaker 7: when they need.
36:12
Speaker 4: To be there.
36:13
Speaker 2: So if you would, just to help people understand as
36:15
Speaker 2: we begin with your base of knowledge, what is it
36:18
Speaker 2: like overseas? What do these insurgencies look like in these
36:21
Speaker 2: war zones?
36:22
Speaker 1: How do they operate?
36:24
Speaker 7: So what you'll see is the average foot soldier out there,
36:27
Speaker 7: and they'll be conducting operations against you. But they are
36:31
Speaker 7: sponsored by somebody and they have senior leadership out there
36:36
Speaker 7: that is guiding them into certain areas and where they
36:39
Speaker 7: need to be and what they need to do to
36:41
Speaker 7: bring the best effect on the battlefield possible. So whenever
36:46
Speaker 7: you run into an insurgent, it's because they are where
36:50
Speaker 7: they need to be when they need to be there.
36:53
Speaker 7: Because there's usually a much smaller force, they've got to
36:56
Speaker 7: conserve everything. and just apply pressure wherever it can produce
37:02
Speaker 7: the most effect. Otherwise, they're just going to disappear.
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Speaker 2: It seems like one of the features of insurgent warfare
37:10
Speaker 2: in the Middle East, overseas, was often the use of
37:13
Speaker 2: things like improvised weapons, improvised explosive devices, coming up with
37:17
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37:23
Speaker 2: And I've noticed that that is sort of the feature here, too,
37:26
Speaker 2: maybe sometimes not with the same effects, although there's a
37:28
Speaker 2: lot of effort to try and perpetuate that. Coming up,
37:31
Speaker 2: I may even get into this, but there was a
37:33
Speaker 2: nurse from Virginia Commonwealth University who is advising some of
37:36
Speaker 2: these radicals that they should figure out ways to put
37:39
Speaker 2: laxatives or poison onto.
37:42
Speaker 1: The ICE agents. Would that be a feature that that
37:45
Speaker 1: you recognize?
37:47
Speaker 4: Anything.
37:47
Speaker 7: You've got to look at what effects you're looking to produce.
37:51
Speaker 7: You can use an actual weapon, and that's mostly when
37:54
Speaker 7: they get to the higher order insurgencies. The later stages
37:58
Speaker 7: is when you'll see them get to weaponry. Initially, it's
38:02
Speaker 7: just going to be sabotage. And you can look at
38:06
Speaker 7: poisoning a person or mixing up their food or giving
38:11
Speaker 7: them a laxative or something like that. as a weapon,
38:15
Speaker 7: if you use it correctly. The same thing for a protest.
38:18
Speaker 7: A protest applied at the right place at the right
38:20
Speaker 7: time is a weapon, but it's got to be well-coordinated
38:23
Speaker 7: and produce the effect that you're looking to do. And
38:26
Speaker 7: if you think about one of the effects that we're
38:28
Speaker 7: seeing right now is in Congress, they're talking about defunding ICE,
38:32
Speaker 7: and it comes from pressure like these protests. So a
38:36
Speaker 7: weapon in insurgencies can be anything which produces the effect
38:41
Speaker 7: that you're looking for.
38:43
Speaker 2: So what would you call when people use terror to
38:46
Speaker 2: try and affect a political outcome?
38:48
Speaker 1: How would we describe that?
38:49
Speaker 7: That is the definition of terrorism, at least according to,
38:52
Speaker 7: I believe, the State Department. Because you have to go
38:55
Speaker 7: over whose definition of terror that you're using because there's
38:59
Speaker 7: multiple definitions out there of terrorism. And the ability to
39:02
Speaker 7: say that something is terror or a terrorist is power
39:06
Speaker 7: all by itself. Like I right here, Eric Schwab, I
39:09
Speaker 7: can't call you a terrorist and have it stick. It
39:12
Speaker 7: takes somebody with enough power and enough capability and enough
39:16
Speaker 7: legitimacy to actually call you a terrorist. And they've got
39:19
Speaker 7: to have the definition that goes along with it.
39:22
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the command and control elements, the
39:25
Speaker 2: communication elements that are involved in the domestic insurgency.
39:29
Speaker 1: You were obviously.
39:30
Speaker 2: Responding to Cam Higbee's excellent reporting on the subject. And
39:33
Speaker 2: what's what's really stuck out to me is that you
39:36
Speaker 2: basically have thousands of left wing radicals who are in Minnesota.
39:39
Speaker 2: They're documenting license plates of vehicles. They are very often
39:44
Speaker 2: getting their targets completely incorrect. They don't even know who's
39:47
Speaker 2: actually law enforcement, but they They still sick the mob
39:50
Speaker 2: on people regardless. And then they're in this constant stream
39:54
Speaker 2: of communication with one another about it. And then they're
39:57
Speaker 2: dispatching each other to go to these scenes to menace
40:01
Speaker 2: people that they suspect are with federal law enforcement.
40:03
Speaker 1: When you hear all of this and see this, I mean,
40:05
Speaker 1: what are you detecting?
40:07
Speaker 7: I think, first off, I got to give credit where
40:09
Speaker 7: credit is due. That's an incredible capability to set up. Uh,
40:13
Speaker 7: I've been doing this for a long time. I've got
40:15
Speaker 7: a lot of my peers that have been doing this
40:16
Speaker 7: for a long time, and that's not something we're setting
40:18
Speaker 7: up in a weekend. You know, when you, we sit
40:21
Speaker 7: there and say, this is like, uh, you know, it's
40:24
Speaker 7: instantaneous and people are doing this at that level of
40:27
Speaker 7: sophistication to get a thousand people to show up. I
40:30
Speaker 7: don't have, I don't know if you have that capability
40:32
Speaker 7: to sit there and say, Hey, we're going to show
40:34
Speaker 7: up here, uh, at eight o'clock tomorrow morning, we're going
40:36
Speaker 7: to have a thousand people on a chat line. We're
40:38
Speaker 7: going to be rotating in two hour sequences. I'm going
40:41
Speaker 7: to I will have certain people that you'll call in
40:43
Speaker 7: to call out that that level of sophistication. You have
40:47
Speaker 7: to give credit where credit is due. That's some they
40:49
Speaker 7: have some capabilities going on there. And like I said,
40:52
Speaker 7: like respects like it would be if I was overseas
40:55
Speaker 7: and I could get that kind of an op running,
40:57
Speaker 7: I would be pretty happy.
40:59
Speaker 2: So what you just described sounds like this has much
41:02
Speaker 2: more central control than people realize, because in order to
41:05
Speaker 2: coordinate at a level that involves that many people and
41:08
Speaker 2: to be able to mobilize them that quickly.
41:10
Speaker 1: This can't merely be some sort of crowdsourced, diffuse event.
41:14
Speaker 2: Anybody who's been involved in any organization at all in
41:17
Speaker 2: their life knows that if it's everybody's responsibility, it's nobody's responsibility.
41:22
Speaker 1: So therefore, there are people who are in charge, aren't there?
41:25
Speaker 7: I would assume so. I would very much assume so.
41:27
Speaker 7: And that's probably one of the reasons that I wrote
41:30
Speaker 7: what I wrote is you can't, like if you look
41:34
Speaker 7: at what ICE and CBP are out there doing right now,
41:36
Speaker 7: they are our foot soldiers out there. Their job has
41:39
Speaker 7: nothing to do with dealing with crowd control. They're not
41:43
Speaker 7: prepared operationally to deal with protesters. I'm not taking anything
41:48
Speaker 7: away from their capabilities, but them trying to do that
41:51
Speaker 7: right now is the same problem we experienced back in 2003,
41:55
Speaker 7: is where everybody had a specific job, but when you
41:59
Speaker 7: look at if it actually is a hierarchical organization that
42:02
Speaker 7: you're dealing with, we're all dealing down here with the bottom,
42:05
Speaker 7: but there's no pressure being put on the people up above.
42:09
Speaker 7: And you have to sit there and say, is there
42:12
Speaker 7: a network? Is there a hierarchy out there? And that's
42:15
Speaker 7: where this become, my letter becomes important is because you
42:18
Speaker 7: have to bring in this. You can't just keep sending
42:21
Speaker 7: more ice there and more CBP there. You have to
42:24
Speaker 7: have an organization to deal with an organization and you
42:27
Speaker 7: have to have leadership. You have to have authorities. You
42:30
Speaker 7: got to have funding. You've got to have a command
42:34
Speaker 7: and control. And all of it has to be organized
42:37
Speaker 7: to go against the network that you're dealing with, wherever
42:41
Speaker 7: the network is showing up. I think probably one of
42:44
Speaker 7: the key things that really started to make me pay
42:47
Speaker 7: more attention is like what happened when they got Maduro.
42:53
Speaker 7: So roughly what, around midnight, two o'clock in the morning
42:56
Speaker 7: is when the first reports started coming out of Venezuela.
42:59
Speaker 7: roughly around 8, 9, 10 o'clock in the morning stateside.
43:04
Speaker 7: We had people out there, you know, having a protest.
43:07
Speaker 7: They got signs. The signs all look alike. They managed
43:10
Speaker 7: to get the sticks to put the signs on. That
43:13
Speaker 7: kind of turnaround, I can't, like, again, if you think
43:16
Speaker 7: about what normal people capability is to run off signs,
43:21
Speaker 7: to produce the signs all look alike, to go down
43:26
Speaker 7: to your local print shop and print all those off
43:29
Speaker 7: and then, you know, run down to home Depot and
43:31
Speaker 7: get a whole bunch of sticks. If I was to
43:33
Speaker 7: sit there and call up, you know, even my SF
43:35
Speaker 7: brethren out there to sit there and try and run
43:37
Speaker 7: something like this, you know, we would start on Sunday,
43:40
Speaker 7: maybe by Wednesday, we might be able to get this going.
43:42
Speaker 4: They did it in a matter of hours.
43:45
Speaker 7: And that, that level of sophistication, you need an organization
43:50
Speaker 7: to deal with an organization right now. We just got
43:53
Speaker 7: the same thing we had out in 2003 and, Everybody
43:56
Speaker 7: was dealing with the baseline, but nobody was dealing with
43:59
Speaker 7: the upper echelon.
44:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's right.
44:01
Speaker 2: And this is why, as you as you aptly point out,
44:04
Speaker 2: talking about Venezuela, there's a lot of concern by people
44:06
Speaker 2: who are paying attention that this isn't merely some sort of,
44:10
Speaker 2: you know, in the country phenomenon, that there are outside
44:13
Speaker 2: adversaries who are funding this chaos to include the Chinese
44:16
Speaker 2: Communist Party. I mean, a lot of people keep pointing
44:18
Speaker 2: in the direction of a billionaire called Neville Roy Singham,
44:21
Speaker 2: who is very connected to the Chi Coms. and is
44:24
Speaker 2: believed to be very much one of the important funding
44:28
Speaker 2: factors for this insurgency in Minnesota. So your suspicion is
44:32
Speaker 2: that it takes immense resources to be able to do this.
44:36
Speaker 5: Yes.
44:37
Speaker 7: I mean, the resources is time, money, effort, equipment, the
44:43
Speaker 7: knowledge to use the systems that they're using to create
44:46
Speaker 7: the communications that they've got going over there. I've seen
44:51
Speaker 7: a couple of different reports this morning, um, just about
44:55
Speaker 7: the different systems that they're using, just as you talked
44:58
Speaker 7: about getting the license plates. Um, and that's another key
45:02
Speaker 7: element I'm going to talk about real quick is they're
45:05
Speaker 7: exploiting a seam there. So in the United States, uh,
45:09
Speaker 7: our Intel organizations are essentially handcuffed. Like I can't, as
45:13
Speaker 7: an Intel person, I can't start collecting on Americans, start
45:16
Speaker 7: putting in a database.
45:18
Speaker 4: I can't keep a screenshot.
45:19
Speaker 7: If I'm actually working for the government, I can't keep
45:21
Speaker 7: a screenshot of your Facebook page on my computer. We
45:25
Speaker 7: just said that's, you know, it's what Edward Snowden went to,
45:28
Speaker 7: you know, all the problems that he went through when
45:30
Speaker 7: he tried to expose how much information they were collecting. So,
45:34
Speaker 7: but if I'm a civilian and I'm, I have knowledge
45:38
Speaker 7: and I have capabilities, I can produce an Intel database
45:41
Speaker 7: about the police that, you know, I can take your
45:44
Speaker 7: picture and put together a profile on you. I can
45:47
Speaker 7: go online and to some of these other websites and
45:51
Speaker 7: download your family, get a background on you. I would
45:54
Speaker 7: not surprise me to find that they've got a database
45:57
Speaker 7: out there for probably, you know, maybe 50% of the
46:00
Speaker 7: policemen that they're countering out there just so they can
46:03
Speaker 7: profile them. And that level of Intel that they are
46:06
Speaker 7: capable of doing, because they're not being controlled by a government,
46:10
Speaker 7: that level of, that level of Intel has to cut. Like, again,
46:13
Speaker 7: your average person on the street doesn't know how to
46:15
Speaker 7: do this stuff. You have to have somebody, some sort
46:18
Speaker 7: of cadre in there who is teaching them. And we've
46:21
Speaker 7: seen the book. They promoted a training manual for the
46:24
Speaker 7: Minnesota protests. We have a 20-page manual that they made magnificent. Again,
46:32
Speaker 7: I wish I could circulate that on my battlefields to
46:34
Speaker 7: the people I was working with.
46:35
Speaker 4: Okay, here's a digital one for you.
46:38
Speaker 1: So in other words, this is very professional.
46:40
Speaker 2: So here's something that I keep thinking about, and I
46:42
Speaker 2: asked– Azra Nomani is a great reporter for Fox News.
46:46
Speaker 2: She just wrote about this signal chat the other day.
46:47
Speaker 2: And when I interviewed her, I asked her a question, Eric.
46:49
Speaker 2: I said, hey, any evidence that there are government officials
46:54
Speaker 2: who are a part of this signal operation who are
46:56
Speaker 2: helping out the insurrectionists? And I know just having read
47:01
Speaker 2: about it, talked to people who've been involved in counterinsurgency
47:04
Speaker 2: like yourself. that sometimes what you get in overseas among
47:08
Speaker 2: our enemies is not only sort of civilian insurgents on
47:12
Speaker 2: the battlefield, but you also get compromised government officials who
47:15
Speaker 2: are working with them, like, you know, like corrupt cops
47:18
Speaker 2: who really should be enforcing the law, but instead are
47:21
Speaker 2: on the side of the insurgents because.
47:22
Speaker 1: They're making money or whatever.
47:24
Speaker 2: I mean, to what extent are you suspicious that that
47:26
Speaker 2: may be at play, too? Is there, you know, as
47:29
Speaker 2: local law enforcement is standing down or has been, has
47:31
Speaker 2: been not helping the feds, At all, they've shown some
47:35
Speaker 2: of the cops have shown some open antipathy towards the
47:38
Speaker 2: federal operations that are going on in the state. I
47:41
Speaker 2: begin to wonder, are any of those guys compromised? Are
47:44
Speaker 2: they sending data to the insurgents to let them know
47:46
Speaker 2: about either law enforcement operations, license plate data, or anything
47:50
Speaker 2: like that?
47:52
Speaker 7: I would be remiss in saying that I don't suspect that.
47:55
Speaker 7: I have to keep an open mind and always be
47:58
Speaker 7: looking around to see who might be involved. But you
48:01
Speaker 7: have to also understand that not everybody's involved maybe by ideology.
48:07
Speaker 7: There's a lot of different ways that you can co-opt
48:09
Speaker 7: somebody to work for you. You can use money. You
48:13
Speaker 7: can use their ideology. You can compromise them in some
48:17
Speaker 7: sort of way or even their ego. We refer to
48:20
Speaker 7: that as the mice concept of trying to get somebody
48:23
Speaker 7: to work for you. And for like– I'm 100% going
48:29
Speaker 7: to back the blue. I support them. My neighbor is
48:32
Speaker 7: an officer. I always support the police officers.
48:36
Speaker 4: I have a degree in criminal justice myself.
48:38
Speaker 7: And again, overseas, I worked a lot of very similar
48:41
Speaker 7: type operations to what police do. So the reasons, and
48:44
Speaker 7: even overseas, when you're working with like the police officers,
48:47
Speaker 7: like in Iraq that we worked with, they may have inwardly,
48:52
Speaker 7: they may have supported us, but their families have to
48:55
Speaker 7: live in the community. And it would take nothing for–
48:59
Speaker 7: if you have a strong enough effort for me to
49:01
Speaker 7: go talk to their family, if I was an insurgent,
49:05
Speaker 7: go talk to their family and say, look, if your husband, whatever,
49:08
Speaker 7: doesn't start dancing the way we want him to dance,
49:10
Speaker 7: we're going to make life really, really difficult for you.
49:14
Speaker 2: Yes, or we'll keep we'll keep our people away from
49:17
Speaker 2: him if you guys help us out.
49:18
Speaker 4: That kind of thing. Yep.
49:20
Speaker 7: And you know, New York, it's type Gambino type things
49:25
Speaker 7: where you get people to do what you want them
49:26
Speaker 7: to do through ulterior means.
49:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a, it's a, it's a big deal.
49:31
Speaker 1: And I'm with you too.
49:31
Speaker 2: I support law enforcement because I think they're the ball
49:34
Speaker 2: work against chaos and we definitely need them.
49:37
Speaker 4: Right now.
49:37
Speaker 2: But then I see things like the Minneapolis police chief
49:40
Speaker 2: standing there and nodding his head as all of this
49:42
Speaker 2: ridiculous anti-law enforcement.
49:44
Speaker 1: Activity is happening. And I feel I'm so it's like awful.
49:48
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like, you should be supporting law enforcement
49:50
Speaker 2: like the rest of us, because that's your job and
49:52
Speaker 2: that's what you signed up for is restoring order to
49:54
Speaker 2: your community.
49:55
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely.
49:57
Speaker 7: With, you know, with law enforcement officers, with soldiers and everything,
50:01
Speaker 7: it's no man left behind.
50:02
Speaker 4: You always support the brother. Yeah.
50:04
Speaker 7: Um, cause you last thing you want to do is
50:05
Speaker 7: be some police officer who's out there, uh, who's compromised.
50:09
Speaker 4: And when you call for help, nobody comes to you.
50:12
Speaker 7: You always want that feeling that somebody's going to come
50:15
Speaker 7: for you and it's going to be a brother. It's
50:16
Speaker 7: going to be a sister who wears a badge or
50:19
Speaker 7: wears or, you know, where's the U S army tape
50:21
Speaker 7: or whatever. Um, so I can't say, uh, you know,
50:25
Speaker 7: I see what he's doing and I watch it and
50:28
Speaker 7: I can't say to what end.
50:30
Speaker 4: He's compromised, but I'm not comfortable with his actions.
50:33
Speaker 1: Right.
50:34
Speaker 7: But I don't know the reasons why you'd have the
50:36
Speaker 7: he he knows the reasons why he is the way
50:38
Speaker 7: he is. And and if maybe someday, you know, people
50:42
Speaker 7: look a little bit deeper into it, maybe they'll discover why.
50:45
Speaker 2: So, Eric, last for you. And thank you for doing
50:47
Speaker 2: this today. Really appreciate this conversation. Really getting a lot
50:49
Speaker 2: out of it. We're talking to Eric Schwamm, former U.S.
50:52
Speaker 2: Army Green Beret, who detects an insurgency here in the
50:55
Speaker 2: United States as he looks at all this. I we
50:58
Speaker 2: heard from Kash Patel, the director of the FBI, a
51:00
Speaker 2: few days ago. He now says that the FBI has
51:03
Speaker 2: launched a criminal investigation into these signal chats.
51:06
Speaker 1: They're looking into these groups.
51:08
Speaker 2: The result of that, I saw Cam Higby posting, is
51:11
Speaker 2: now the signal chat is going a bit haywire. They
51:12
Speaker 2: now know that they're definitely being watched by the FBI.
51:16
Speaker 2: What would you counsel the FBI to do here and
51:19
Speaker 2: to look for, given your experience with counterinsurgency overseas? Is
51:23
Speaker 2: there anything that you think that they should be concentrating on?
51:29
Speaker 4: Movement.
51:30
Speaker 7: Essentially, as you start going after these type of organizations
51:34
Speaker 7: and you start picking them apart, there's going to be
51:37
Speaker 7: actions like I believe it was last night where they
51:43
Speaker 7: were talking about there's a little like within the communications,
51:48
Speaker 7: people are starting to question each other. You know, like
51:51
Speaker 7: apparently somebody is talking to Cam Higbee. And so they're
51:54
Speaker 7: looking for that person right now. And So you're going
51:57
Speaker 7: to see movement on the net. Every time you poke
52:01
Speaker 7: into something like that, you want to watch where the
52:04
Speaker 7: movement goes, where people step out to. And those are
52:09
Speaker 7: all clues. Like we used to do, if we hit
52:12
Speaker 7: a target overseas, like we did on target, remove somebody
52:15
Speaker 7: from the target, one of the things we would do
52:17
Speaker 7: is continue to watch the target afterward to see what happens.
52:20
Speaker 7: You always want, it's just like disturbing an anthill. Once
52:23
Speaker 7: you disturb that anthill, look for what happens next. Don't
52:27
Speaker 7: just get caught up in the hoo-yahs and everything of
52:30
Speaker 7: slapping yourself on the back when you make something happen
52:34
Speaker 7: out there.
52:34
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of ways that Cash could do that.
52:39
Speaker 7: There's a lot of people out there doing so much
52:42
Speaker 7: good stuff as far as picking stuff apart. You look
52:46
Speaker 7: at what like Data Republican is doing out there with
52:49
Speaker 7: looking at the crunching the numbers. Mike Benz, Sam Shoemate,
52:55
Speaker 7: Mike Shelby, all those guys are out there, really good
52:58
Speaker 7: Intel people. And they're picking at the surfaces of stuff
53:01
Speaker 7: and pulling things out there that can, if you look
53:04
Speaker 7: at it, you know, just piece by piece by piece,
53:08
Speaker 7: you're going to see the network start to appear.
53:11
Speaker 4: And it really takes a lot of time.
53:15
Speaker 7: Like everybody's going to be, one thing we had in
53:16
Speaker 7: intelligence is everybody always demanded what does a picture look like?
53:20
Speaker 4: What does a picture look like?
53:22
Speaker 7: And I will tell you this, intelligence is like working
53:24
Speaker 7: with a puzzle where you've got three different puzzles mixed
53:27
Speaker 7: into the box. There's no picture on the cover of
53:30
Speaker 7: the box of what you're trying to make. You're missing
53:33
Speaker 7: about 50 pieces of each different puzzle. And you could
53:36
Speaker 7: go down any lane if you start making one puzzle.
53:39
Speaker 7: And it could be the wrong puzzle that you're building.
53:41
Speaker 7: So no picture, no idea. You're just trying to figure
53:44
Speaker 7: stuff out. And it's all about looking at all the
53:47
Speaker 7: puzzle pieces with.
53:48
Speaker 4: An open mind. And actually, and the other thing is, is.
53:52
Speaker 7: Appreciate the level of sophistication of the people that you're
53:56
Speaker 7: going after.
53:57
Speaker 4: You have to give them credit.
53:59
Speaker 7: You can't sit there and think that they don't know
54:02
Speaker 7: what they're doing.
54:02
Speaker 4: The sophistication is out there.
54:04
Speaker 2: Yes, not everybody has a room temperature IQ dying their
54:08
Speaker 2: hair blue and attacking cops. Some of them know what
54:11
Speaker 2: they're doing and they're very sinister. Eric Schwalm, former U.S.
54:15
Speaker 2: Army Green Beret, Go ahead, sir.
54:17
Speaker 1: One more thing.
54:17
Speaker 4: Go ahead. Oh, yeah.
54:18
Speaker 7: One more thing. I just want to talk about one
54:21
Speaker 7: of the things that's going out there, at least among
54:22
Speaker 7: for the SF Brethren, for the veterans and stuff like that.
54:26
Speaker 7: Please look at Matt Larson, who ran the U.S. Army
54:30
Speaker 7: Combatants Program, and Sergeant Major Mike Vining. They're talking about
54:33
Speaker 7: moral injury right now, and they are kind of on
54:36
Speaker 7: the forefront of the PTSD moral injury things. And as veterans,
54:42
Speaker 7: we need to take care of each other. 22 a
54:44
Speaker 7: day is just way too many.
54:46
Speaker 1: It is way too many. And I'm sorry, I haven't
54:48
Speaker 1: heard this expression before, moral injury. What does moral injury mean?
54:52
Speaker 7: Moral injury, if you look at it, my understanding of it,
54:56
Speaker 7: Matt can probably explain a lot better, but I was
54:59
Speaker 7: raised a certain way. I came from a blue collar family, very,
55:01
Speaker 7: very religious. What I grew up with, what I understand
55:05
Speaker 7: to be morals were framed. And when you go overseas
55:09
Speaker 7: into combat, even law enforcement officers can face moral injury
55:12
Speaker 7: as well. is your morals, the morals inside a combat zone,
55:17
Speaker 7: the morals in policing and stuff like that change. And
55:23
Speaker 7: so you have a clash of ideologies between the morals
55:26
Speaker 7: that you had to develop in combat and the morals
55:29
Speaker 7: that you grew up with, were raised with, and everything
55:32
Speaker 7: else like that. And so we call the moral injury
55:35
Speaker 7: is that difference of, I'm not the same, I'm not
55:39
Speaker 7: the good person my mom and dad raised me to be.
55:42
Speaker 4: And that you, you live with that.
55:44
Speaker 7: And it's, it's a personal injury that you can't got
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Speaker 7: to reconcile that you are, you are no longer that
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Speaker 7: good boy that your mom and dad raised.
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Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: You're testing the limits of your moral boundaries because you're
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Speaker 2: making literal life and death decisions.
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Speaker 1: It's a, it's a very tough job.
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Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful for every person who raises their
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Speaker 2: hand and does it for us.
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Speaker 4: I am too.
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Speaker 1: Eric, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for all of this information. I,
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Speaker 2: I instantly have inferred that we're going to hear a
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Speaker 2: lot more from you because everybody's going to want to
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Speaker 2: talk to Eric Schwab. Thank you very much. I'm so
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Speaker 2: grateful you came on with us today.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 1: All right. Good to talk to you. There's Eric Schwab, U.S.
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Speaker 1: Army Green Beret, a guy.
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Speaker 2: Who knows his stuff. He knows his stuff. And I'm
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Speaker 2: very grateful that he came on with us today. Great conversation.
56:28
Speaker 2: And he sees it, guys. He sees what's going on
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Speaker 2: in Minnesota because I've seen this before. I've seen this overseas.
56:34
Speaker 2: This is what our adversaries do. This is what they do,
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Speaker 2: these insurgencies. And I know how to break them up.
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Speaker 2: And so let me just offer just a piece of
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Speaker 2: unsolicited advice to the government, our government, as they dig
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Speaker 2: through all of this.
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Speaker 1: Rely on guys like Eric Schwab.
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Speaker 2: The guys who have all of this experience, real life experience,
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Speaker 2: hard-earned experience going after insurgencies, rely on them to give
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Speaker 2: you good guidance on how we do this in the
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Speaker 2: United States. Yes, of course, we're dealing with U.S. citizens,
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Speaker 2: some of whom have been radicalized, who are involved in
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Speaker 2: all of this. Every aspect of of a pursuit of
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Speaker 2: them should be constitutional because we're trying to restore the
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Speaker 2: Constitution and the rule of law in the face of
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Speaker 2: a left that's trying to tear us down. But rely
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Speaker 2: on the guys who know how to how to break
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Speaker 2: through these criminal enterprises because that guy's got it together.
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