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The Late Debate | 22 July · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Lately.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Lake Debate. I'll leave that one to you, Dednika,
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Speaker 2: but maybe they've both been down holiday road. Good luck, Joe,
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debate with me, Calebond of course,
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Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand, who's texting his ex, and Freileach who is
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Speaker 2: married and hopefully not texting her X coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that taking a knee for racism was
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Speaker 2: a thing anymore, but anti racism activist to apparently outrage
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Speaker 2: that a soccer team have stopped doing it. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: about that in the papers. How would you like to
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Speaker 2: be paid one hundred k a year to police vaping
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Speaker 2: at a university? One UNI's offering up the job. We'll
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Speaker 2: tell you where soon. And is it okay to break
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Speaker 2: broccoli off the stem so you don't have to pay
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Speaker 2: for what you don't want to take home. You only
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Speaker 2: pay for what you're going to eat and cook. We'll
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Speaker 2: discuss that later. But first, over in the UK, a
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Speaker 2: fight is breaking out over a mosque that is being
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Speaker 2: built in the Lake district. It's the first mosque that
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Speaker 2: is being built in the area. Construction started in January
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Speaker 2: and out the front of the site where it is
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Speaker 2: now being built. Protests have broken out from both sides,
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Speaker 2: people saying we don't want a mosque in our local
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Speaker 2: area and people saying, well, you're a bunch of racists
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Speaker 2: for saying that we shouldn't have a mosque in the area.
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Speaker 2: The local MP described the protesters as exactly that racist.
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Speaker 2: Michelle Scrogham said there's absolutely no place for racism in Cumbria.
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Speaker 2: The comments that plague the social media pages constantly don't
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Speaker 2: represent the people of this area. The people of this
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Speaker 2: area have always been incredibly welcoming. We've had immigration on
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Speaker 2: a mass scale for many, many years. And I don't
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Speaker 2: know whether she realizes it, but in that last quote
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Speaker 2: she's probably articulated what is the main point here. It's
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Speaker 2: not necessarily about that one mosque. The reason people are
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Speaker 2: protesting is because they have seen their country, the United
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Speaker 2: Kingdom or England in this particular case, be overrun by
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Speaker 2: mass migration, particularly Muslim migration. In the UK. Muslims now
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Speaker 2: make up six and a half percent of the population.
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Speaker 2: Actually that was in twenty twenty one at their last census,
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Speaker 2: so it probably is a larger proportion of the population now.
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Speaker 2: It's roughly double what the proportion of the Muslim population
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Speaker 2: is in Australia. Between twenty eleven and twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 2: there was a one point two million person increase in
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Speaker 2: the number of Muslims in the United Kingdom. That was
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Speaker 2: thirty two percent of the entire population growth of the
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Speaker 2: United Kingdom in that time. Between two thousand and one
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Speaker 2: and two thousand and nine, the population growth of Muslims
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Speaker 2: in the United Kingdom was ten times larger the non
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Speaker 2: Muslim population growth. It's predicted on the basis of these
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Speaker 2: numbers that by twenty sixty three, white people will be
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Speaker 2: a minority in the United Kingdom, that within twenty five
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Speaker 2: years they'll make up ten percent of the UK population,
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Speaker 2: and that by the end of the century they'll make
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Speaker 2: up a fifth of the population of the United Kingdom.
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Speaker 2: What these people are protesting about is not necessarily this
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Speaker 2: particular mosque. It's about what is happening to their country
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Speaker 2: in general. Look at the polling for Reform UK at
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Speaker 2: the moment, and you'll start to realize what people are
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Speaker 2: angry about. It's their country moving faster away from something
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Speaker 2: they recognize without being asked why or how this is
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Speaker 2: going to happen. Or whether anyone wants it to begin with. Joe,
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Speaker 2: to characterize it as racist, I think is a joke.
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Speaker 2: It's not racist, it's people genuinely worried about the face
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Speaker 2: of their country.
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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing you have to do is get
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Speaker 1: your terminology right. So if you want to accuse them
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Speaker 1: of anything, accuse them of his Lamophobia, because Muslims come
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Speaker 1: in all different shapes and size, including many white Muslims
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Speaker 1: as well. So they've got to get the thing right.
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Speaker 1: But the thing that the people opposing the mosque have
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Speaker 1: got to get right, they've made one incredibly fundamental amateur
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Speaker 1: our mistake to begin with, and that's to pretend that
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Speaker 1: it's actually about Islam adol or. If you do any
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Speaker 1: sort of Nimbiaism in Australia, if you've got any sort
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Speaker 1: of residence action group, if you want to get rid
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Speaker 1: of a mosque, you never say it's about the mosque.
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Speaker 1: You never say it's about the religion. You say it's
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Speaker 1: about the parking. You say that you know, you say
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Speaker 1: that this neighborhood can't handle the volumes of traffic. Nothing
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Speaker 1: against but oh I know we love and this all
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Speaker 1: the little nimbi, all the little so progressive, you know,
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Speaker 1: affluent leafy suburbs who are so tolerant, you know, say
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Speaker 1: they firmly endorsed the Voice, for example, and firmly endorsed,
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Speaker 1: you know, cosmopolitanism and multiculturalism as long as it happens
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Speaker 1: in one of those poor countries out in western Sydney suburbs,
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Speaker 1: out in western Cydny. And when anything comes into their
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Speaker 1: backyard they say, oh no, no, of course we welcome
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Speaker 1: ambles and brothers and sisters. It's just the parking. The
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Speaker 1: parking would be a bit too much. It's just it's
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Speaker 1: just the amenity. It's just not simpatico with this particular
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Speaker 1: style of neighborhood. But absolutely you should definitely be here,
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Speaker 1: just maybe the next suburb of christ Oh well.
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Speaker 3: Some great pr advice there.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 4: You're welcome from Joe. But I think you're right, Caleb.
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Speaker 4: It's in mischaracterization, and I think this is actually a
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Speaker 4: tool used by the left who want to deny the
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Speaker 4: problems associated with multiculturalism and mass migration and even criticism
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Speaker 4: of Islam.
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Speaker 3: They write it off.
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Speaker 4: As racism, islamophobia, xenophobia, any phobia they can come up with,
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Speaker 4: But in reality, you're right, the country has changed so much.
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Speaker 4: This is a small town of eight thousand people. It's
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Speaker 4: going to service workers at a local hospital, not even
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Speaker 4: local Muslim residents. It will invariably change the character of
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Speaker 4: the area. But it's not about this one town. It's
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Speaker 4: about what's happening across the country. Kirs Starmer himself said,
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Speaker 4: Britain risks becoming an island of strangers, and that is
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Speaker 4: what's happening. That's why people are revolting. And if people
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Speaker 4: continue to write ordinary folks off as racists, the anger
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Speaker 4: will only continue to search.
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Speaker 2: Do they not realize like the local MP, what was
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Speaker 2: the name of in Michelle Skrogum, you know, does she
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Speaker 2: not realize The more you shout at these people that
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Speaker 2: they're racist, the more they're not going to change their minds.
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Speaker 2: You don't change people's minds by denigrating them. They want
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Speaker 2: to have a genuine discussion about the face of their country.
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Speaker 2: And you know, this is the Lake District, as you say,
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Speaker 2: eight thousand people. It doesn't have a large Muslim population,
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Speaker 2: but they can see what's happened in the rest of
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Speaker 2: the country. London, for instance, has a Muslim population of
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Speaker 2: thirteen to fourteen percent. And that is, of course not
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Speaker 2: to say that every Muslim who lives in London or
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Speaker 2: every Muslim who lives in the UK is a bad person.
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Speaker 2: But when you start to see the fundamentals of your
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Speaker 2: country change And the United Kingdom is quite unique in
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Speaker 2: this circumstance compared to Australia, because it does have an
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Speaker 2: official national religion in the Church of England, of which
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Speaker 2: the king, King Charles the third is meant to be
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Speaker 2: the defender, even though it keeps going on about the
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Speaker 2: virtue of Islam. It has a national religion, and so
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Speaker 2: it's not wrong for people to say, well, I would
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Speaker 2: prefer the preservation of the in law national religion of
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Speaker 2: my country over one that is anathema to the values
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Speaker 2: upon which my country has.
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Speaker 1: An Irish Catholic I could not disagree more. Were splitters
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Speaker 1: under Henry the eighth and the sixteenth century, they still
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Speaker 1: have the gall Charles still has his title defender of
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Speaker 1: the faith. Do you know who gave that to the
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Speaker 1: English monarch, the pope the pope and then they ditched
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Speaker 1: the pope and kept the title. Henry the eight is
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Speaker 1: the Prince Harry of ukme out. He's taken all the
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Speaker 1: nice titles, but doesn't want any of the responsibility that
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Speaker 1: comes with it. So no, those dirty protties, as far
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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, they're all blasphemous.
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Speaker 2: Sectaridism on the late fat Wow, Yeah, that was powerful.
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Speaker 4: As an Anglican, I'll refrain from commenting further and we'll talk.
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Speaker 2: About it.
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Speaker 3: Exactly well.
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Speaker 4: Also in the UK, the Lionesses, which is England's female
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Speaker 4: soccer team, before every game this season, they have been
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Speaker 4: taking a knee to stand against racism.
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Speaker 3: And this was all.
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Speaker 2: Standing against racism.
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Speaker 4: They are taking a powerful meal against racism, except they've
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Speaker 4: discovered that it actually doesn't end racism.
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Speaker 3: Who would have thought.
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Speaker 4: One of their defenders hasn't had a great season so far,
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Speaker 4: and she's been copying it online and receiving a lot
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Speaker 4: of online racial abuse allegedly, And so this has caused
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Speaker 4: the Lionesses to go, what's happened. We've been kneeling against
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Speaker 4: racism this entire season, height to racism.
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Speaker 3: So now they're going to take.
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Speaker 4: A step back from their meal and reevaluate the strategies
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Speaker 4: that they want to employ to truly stamp out racism.
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Speaker 4: But the head of Football's anti discrimination. Body is not
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Speaker 4: happy about this. Why have they stopped the NIL? They're asking,
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Speaker 4: and apparently the two things aren't related. They're saying, just
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Speaker 4: because she's copying online racial abuse doesn't mean you should
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Speaker 4: abandon the nel just dig in further. I mean, I
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Speaker 4: don't think these things do anything other than in rage viewers.
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Speaker 4: And in fact, the more you bring up race and
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Speaker 4: continue to talk about this as though it's a huge issue,
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Speaker 4: the more it becomes an issue. Of course, there are
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Speaker 4: racists in the world, and that's bad, but there will
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Speaker 4: always be biggots in the world, unfortunately, And when you
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Speaker 4: put yourself in the public eye. She has over one
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Speaker 4: hundred thousand followers on social media, you'll cop it. I
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Speaker 4: cop it, we copy everyone cops it.
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Speaker 3: That's life. But I am happy that one.
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Speaker 4: Less infuriating virtue signaling event will happen at the women's
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Speaker 4: football Maybe that'll get their audio numbers up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, to be honest, it's just it just
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Speaker 1: shows that this whole taking the knee thing was basically
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Speaker 1: a fad that was employed by overprivileged people to show
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Speaker 1: how right on they were and how progressive they were,
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Speaker 1: and how anti racers they were. It doesn't seem to have.
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Speaker 1: I can't think of any possible correlation it has between
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Speaker 1: the well being of people of other races. And you
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Speaker 1: know how many millionaire football players, you know, take the
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Speaker 1: knee at the beginning of a match. I think this
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Speaker 1: is just sort of crazy stuff. And you know, it's
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Speaker 1: a bit sort of you know, Black Lives Matter, Remember
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Speaker 1: all that that was going out, that was going to
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Speaker 1: stop racing them. But then it turns out that the
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Speaker 1: organizers were Marxists who used all the money to buy
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Speaker 1: multiple houses for themselves on I think, what is the
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Speaker 1: US capitalist free market? But anyway, and you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: I have you heard this one death death to the idea?
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Speaker 1: If you know, that'll be a thing for a while.
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Speaker 1: And this is the problem with I think all these
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Speaker 1: and I say this as someone who was sort of
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Speaker 1: from the old left who would like to see things like,
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Speaker 1: you know, people in well paying jobs, you know, more
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Speaker 1: teachers and nurses, you know, the old fashioned stuff, public education.
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Speaker 1: I like all that stuff, but all this sort of
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Speaker 1: wanky activist stuff that trendies pick up on or you know,
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Speaker 1: tertiary educated, you know, over privileged UNI students pick up
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Speaker 1: on and then say, oh, we all have to do this,
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Speaker 1: and then this will fix everything. Well, it doesn't actually
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Speaker 1: fix everything, and worse still, it actually makes normal mainstream
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Speaker 1: people think, well, hang on a minute, you're actually just
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Speaker 1: a bunch of not knows brats. I don't know anything
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Speaker 1: about the real problems. You're over privileged yourself, but you're
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Speaker 1: having a winge and then you're telling me to feel
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Speaker 1: bad because I'm not doing what you're telling me to
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Speaker 1: even though I'm the poor punner with the meat pie
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Speaker 1: and the beer and you're the you know whatever, it is,
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Speaker 1: the million dollar athlete who says, you know that I
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Speaker 1: have to do better.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's because my understanding is that the taking the
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Speaker 2: knee thing is done during the national anthem. That's where
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Speaker 2: it started anyway. And so by taking a knee during
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Speaker 2: the national anthem and refusing to stand for the national anthem,
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Speaker 2: you're not just saying, well, I have a problem with racism.
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Speaker 2: You're saying I have a problem with the country at large,
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Speaker 2: the country that you are there to represent. As if
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Speaker 2: you're a lioness, you're representing England. So while your country's
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Speaker 2: national anthem is being played and you are being paid
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Speaker 2: to represent your country, you can't even stand up to
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Speaker 2: show some pride in your country, presumably because you think
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Speaker 2: your country is inherently racist. I come back to the
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Speaker 2: previous point. It doesn't work. It doesn't change anyone's mind,
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Speaker 2: It doesn't convince anyone that anything needs to be done
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Speaker 2: about racism. Because if you go, are you bunch of
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Speaker 2: bladdy white bricks, you're all racist? Well they're going to
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Speaker 2: term and say no, we're not. But come to watch
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Speaker 2: the football as they'd call it in the UKA, or
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Speaker 2: soccer as we'd call it. We even come to be
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Speaker 2: lectured about racism. You know, you're paid well enough to
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Speaker 2: play sport. Just play sport for heaven's sake and leave
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Speaker 2: the politics out of it. Sticking in the UK for
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Speaker 2: a moment, interesting, a whole bunch of documents have been
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Speaker 2: released from the archives over in England, and this is
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Speaker 2: going back to Tony Blair's Prime ministership. Of course, it'd be
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Speaker 2: a great mate of yours, as everyone. It turns out
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Speaker 2: that Tony Blair's bureaucrats were telling him in the lead
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Speaker 2: up to what would become the invasion of Iraq to
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Speaker 2: basically persuade George W. Bush, who was the President of
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Speaker 2: the United States at the time to delay this invasion
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Speaker 2: because according to them, no one wanted it except for
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Speaker 2: Bush himself. They were concerned in the bureaucracy of the
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Speaker 2: UK government that this was essentially a barrow that Bush
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Speaker 2: himself was pushing, and that someone had to do something
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Speaker 2: to at least talk a little bit of sense into him,
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Speaker 2: or delay it until they knew there were weapons of
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Speaker 2: mass attraction, which of course we now know there were
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Speaker 2: not that was a total fabrication. But he flew over
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Speaker 2: to Camp David in January of twenty twenty three and
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Speaker 2: advise the President to delay any invasion until at least
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Speaker 2: mart and that is, of course eventually what happened. And
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Speaker 2: some of the letters that were being written at the
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Speaker 2: time are very interesting. One of them, this was reported
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Speaker 2: in The Times of London that on December eighteen, twenty
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Speaker 2: oh sorry two thousand and two, Christopher Meyer, who is
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Speaker 2: the British ambassador to the US, sent an annual review
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Speaker 2: to the Prime Minister's Office from Washington. He wrote, much
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Speaker 2: of the impulse for opposing Saddam Hussein comes from Bush
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Speaker 2: himself more than anything else. He feeds another catastrophic terrorist
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Speaker 2: attack on the homeland, especially one with an Iraqi connection.
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Speaker 2: His view of the world is Manichean. He sees his
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Speaker 2: mission as ridding it of evildoers. He believes American values
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Speaker 2: should be universal values. This sounds rather familiar, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: He finds Europeans differentiation between Osama bin Laden and Saddam
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Speaker 2: Hussein self serving. He is strongly allergic to Europeans collectively,
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Speaker 2: and in another dispatch he wrote, apart from a single
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Speaker 2: oil man in Houston, I failed to find anyone keen
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Speaker 2: to go to war with Saddam, But most Americans trust
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Speaker 2: Bush and will likely follow where he leads. And these
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Speaker 2: lines and the documents that have now been released were highlighted,
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Speaker 2: So it would seem that Blair tried to make some
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Speaker 2: effort to push things back when it came to what
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Speaker 2: was this eventual war, And there were It's clear there
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Speaker 2: were misgivings within the allies to the United States about
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Speaker 2: going to war with Iraq, invading Iraq on the basis
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Speaker 2: of there being weapons of mass attraction which we now
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Speaker 2: know don't exist. But of course they all fell into
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Speaker 2: line when the invasion finally happened.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it turned into a horrible and bloody event,
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Speaker 4: over four eight hundred American and Allied troops lives lost,
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Speaker 4: over one hundred thousand Iraqi civilians lives lost as well.
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Speaker 3: Truly a travesty.
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Speaker 4: And I guess yeah, the problem was the whole thing
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Speaker 4: was based on false intelligence. And now it seems this
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Speaker 4: was really being driven by the President from the top.
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Speaker 4: But initially when it was just about getting into Baghdad's
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Speaker 4: sending a message that the US was taking a stand
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Speaker 4: against terrorism, I understand the public desire for retribution after.
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Speaker 3: Nine to eleven was staggering.
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Speaker 4: So you have human error combined with urgency, combined with naivety,
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Speaker 4: led to this cascading four or cascading dramatic event really
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Speaker 4: that produced terrible, terrible outcomes. But really, as soon as
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Speaker 4: Bagdad fell and they didn't withdraw and they just drifted
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Speaker 4: into this open ended, vague mission about universal values and liberalism,
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Speaker 4: that's when it was all over. But I think America
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Speaker 4: and the world has learned you cannot export Western democratic
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Speaker 4: values to countries where they don't inherently exist.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't have democracy at gunpoint, And that is
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Speaker 1: the fundment the idea that you could change centuries of
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Speaker 1: culture or centuries of rivalries or centuries of different traditions
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Speaker 1: by just saying, all right, you're going to be democratic
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Speaker 1: now because ours is the best policy and we're the
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Speaker 1: best and you better do it, and so just do it.
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Speaker 1: And again it's been an abject failure in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Speaker 1: But we can't you can't look at what happened then,
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Speaker 1: knowing everything we know now, and judge the decisions they
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Speaker 1: made based on how we know it turned out. I
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Speaker 1: think there's a growing school of thought that, in fact,
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Speaker 1: George W. Bush was not a sort of rabid warmonger.
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Speaker 1: He was someone who would much rather not to have
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Speaker 1: had to have done this. He was certainly someone who
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Speaker 1: did not want September eleven to happen, and was incredibly
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Speaker 1: shocked when it did. September eleven happened because of a
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Speaker 1: catastrophic apart from the fact that al Qayed a a
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Speaker 1: bunch of evil, murderous maniacs, but it happened because of
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Speaker 1: a catastrophic intelligence failing, where the various US intelligent agencies
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Speaker 1: weren't talking to each other. It was, as we all know,
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Speaker 1: the first real attack on US soil in all the
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Speaker 1: wars the US had ever been involved in mainland US
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Speaker 1: had never been a take like this, and I can
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Speaker 1: just you only have to still travel through America to
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Speaker 1: this day to know how much it eft with their heads.
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Speaker 1: It got inside their heads and it made them absolutely alway.
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Speaker 1: There's always been a massive isolation, a streak in America.
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Speaker 1: I think a few years ago only about half the
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Speaker 1: population even had passports. We know there's a big America
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Speaker 1: first thing on swing on because of what happened then,
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Speaker 1: and there was a similar one, you know, between the
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Speaker 1: wars and after the wars and everything, and so they
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Speaker 1: just want the rest of the world to go away.
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Speaker 1: They just want to be the biggest and the best
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Speaker 1: in America. And then September eleven happens, which is never
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Speaker 1: meant to be able to happen in their thing, because
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Speaker 1: all their culture that they've got the biggest military in
18:32
Speaker 1: the world, they've got all these movies saying them they're
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Speaker 1: unvulnerable and invincible and then impregnable and the good guys
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Speaker 1: will always been And then that happens and they think, well,
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Speaker 1: holy crap, we've got to get the people who did it.
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Speaker 1: And holy crap, our other enemy from the last Gulf
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Speaker 1: War has intelligence that's not fabricated. They just got it
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Speaker 1: wrong that says this guy could have a weapon of
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Speaker 1: mass destruction. You're going to just say, oh look, let's
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Speaker 1: just hang back and wait and give them the benefit
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Speaker 1: of doubt and see what happens. Of course you're not
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Speaker 1: going to do that. And of course if America is
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Speaker 1: going to go into it, then it's closest to our lie,
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Speaker 1: which is the UK either has to go in it
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Speaker 1: or has to say no. And what that sneering report
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Speaker 1: about George Bush sort of seems to forget is that
19:12
Speaker 1: Tony Abbott is a Tony Abbott. Tony Blair is also
19:15
Speaker 1: a very very religious man and part of a group
19:17
Speaker 1: called Moral Rearment and who is massively, you know, has
19:21
Speaker 1: this massive idea of good versus evil and doing the
19:24
Speaker 1: right thing. So and Blair was I think right there
19:27
Speaker 1: with him.
19:27
Speaker 2: Well, and the one person who's analysis I really wish
19:30
Speaker 2: we could get on this stuff at the moment, particularly
19:33
Speaker 2: the rest of what's going on in the Middle East
19:34
Speaker 2: is Christopher Hitchins. Because Hitchins at the time supported the
19:38
Speaker 2: invasion of Iraq on the basis that anything that could
19:41
Speaker 2: lead to the destruction of Islamism was a good thing.
19:44
Speaker 2: But then he was also fundamentally opposed to the idea
19:48
Speaker 2: of the state of Israel and was sort of sympathetic
19:50
Speaker 2: to the cause of the Palestinians. But then I'd be
19:53
Speaker 2: interested to know what he would think today about the
19:55
Speaker 2: state of the world is as, given that it's a
20:01
Speaker 2: job to tie in the Middle East. I really miss
20:05
Speaker 2: his musings on these.
20:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be really interesting.
20:07
Speaker 4: And given the Palestinian course has essentially been hijacked by Islamism,
20:11
Speaker 4: there used to be a very sizable Palestinian Christian population.
20:15
Speaker 3: Where have they all gone?
20:16
Speaker 4: They've been driven out by the Palestinian authority in the
20:19
Speaker 4: West Bank and persecuted by Hamas in Gaza. But speaking
20:24
Speaker 4: of wars, a Texan man has moved himself his family
20:29
Speaker 4: of three daughters, and they're Husky to Russia under Vladimir
20:34
Speaker 4: Putin's Shared Values visa scheme. This is a visa that
20:39
Speaker 4: exists to us tract foreigners who are sick of the
20:43
Speaker 4: destructive neoliberal ideology of the West. Now, it was all
20:47
Speaker 4: going pretty well for this family as they arrived in Russia.
20:52
Speaker 3: And they have a YouTube.
20:53
Speaker 4: Channel actually that you can check out, and they v
20:56
Speaker 4: log their day to day life.
20:58
Speaker 3: They visited a whole bunch of by lot.
21:00
Speaker 2: Of Russian sites, the Cathedral Square.
21:03
Speaker 1: We are very happy fold freedom.
21:06
Speaker 4: Very very happy until the father of a family, Derek Huffman,
21:12
Speaker 4: decided to enlist in the Russian military. He did this,
21:16
Speaker 4: he says, for the citizenship and for the values. Here
21:20
Speaker 4: is what he had to say.
21:22
Speaker 5: I have joined the Russian military. Big reason I'm doing
21:26
Speaker 5: it is for the citizenship. So if I sign a
21:28
Speaker 5: one year contract and I go and serve it, my
21:33
Speaker 5: family and I all get Russian citizenship. And if I
21:36
Speaker 5: go put my body on the line for Russia, I
21:38
Speaker 5: defend the country, our new country.
21:41
Speaker 1: I've earned our place here.
21:43
Speaker 4: I think he's been spending way too much time on
21:45
Speaker 4: Tuckerkelson's ex account, but he was He speaks no Russian,
21:50
Speaker 4: he has no training as a soldier, and his wife
21:53
Speaker 4: is said on the YouTube channel that he's basically been
21:56
Speaker 4: sent to the front lines. And now he's saying he's
22:01
Speaker 4: been sent to the wolves. I mean, I don't know
22:04
Speaker 4: what he expected what happened.
22:07
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the best decision maker in the world.
22:10
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's the best provider for his
22:12
Speaker 1: family and indeed, if he doesn't speak any Russian, there's
22:14
Speaker 1: perhaps just one Russian word that he should learn, and
22:17
Speaker 1: that's nit. I mean, just how dumb do you have
22:21
Speaker 1: to be? Honestly, we all get frustrated with dumb woke stuff,
22:24
Speaker 1: but honestly, the idea that the solution from that is
22:27
Speaker 1: to move from Texas to Russia and that you are
22:31
Speaker 1: fighting the cause of justice and freedom by joining Vladimir
22:35
Speaker 1: Putin's war against Ukraine and then to be surprised when
22:41
Speaker 1: the Ruskies think, oh, let's just use this new stupid,
22:45
Speaker 1: fleshy foreigner as cannon fodder instead of one of our own,
22:49
Speaker 1: which is the way that the Russians have fought every
22:52
Speaker 1: single war they have ever been involved in. They just
22:54
Speaker 1: get more and more people from the regions, from the
22:57
Speaker 1: annexed states to just throw them in the meat grinder,
23:00
Speaker 1: and then they have the KGB standing behind the lines
23:02
Speaker 1: and shooting anyone who tries to retreat. So tried and
23:05
Speaker 1: true effort, and this guy did it. So maybe he
23:07
Speaker 1: should have just you know, listened to a few more
23:09
Speaker 1: podcasts or maybe just done a little deep dive on
23:12
Speaker 1: Wikipedia before he decided to pick up his family and
23:15
Speaker 1: his kids dragged them all over there.
23:19
Speaker 2: I feel well, I feel a bit sorry for him.
23:21
Speaker 2: I especially feel sorry for his family, because he's been
23:24
Speaker 2: sucked better off without him. He's been, he's been. I
23:29
Speaker 2: think that's a pretty heartless thing to say.
23:31
Speaker 1: No, he has put them all in danger. He has
23:33
Speaker 1: dragged them over there because of some stupid ideological whim
23:37
Speaker 1: that he's had. He's put them all in danger. He's
23:39
Speaker 1: deprived all his kids of a life growing up in
23:42
Speaker 1: America and instead sentenced them to a life going growing
23:45
Speaker 1: up in Houton's Rush run by a mad, murderous automatic dictator.
23:50
Speaker 1: I know this guy has come up.
23:52
Speaker 2: And he's I think he's been sucked into something that's
23:55
Speaker 2: very wrong. I understand the desires what he's about. I
24:00
Speaker 2: understand the desire to get out of the workness of
24:03
Speaker 2: the US, and in many ways Russia does stand up
24:06
Speaker 2: against that. But in doing so, it also stands up
24:09
Speaker 2: the fundamental freedoms that allow wokeness to exist. And sometimes
24:14
Speaker 2: we have to look at both sides of the coin
24:16
Speaker 2: and say, as much as we hate the workness that
24:18
Speaker 2: has permeated the West, in some ways, it's good that
24:21
Speaker 2: we live in a society where you can have those things,
24:24
Speaker 2: and we can also argue against them, because in a
24:27
Speaker 2: country like Russia, you don't get a choice in those matters.
24:30
Speaker 2: That's fundamentally the problem, which is why. I mean, you
24:33
Speaker 2: see now they're banning WhatsApp in Russia as well. You
24:37
Speaker 2: won't be able to send encrypted messages between people, as
24:40
Speaker 2: a few people in the news recently. You probably like
24:43
Speaker 2: if that had been the case, But they're replacing it
24:46
Speaker 2: with a state issued messaging service that will be called MAX,
24:52
Speaker 2: that of course will allow the state to monitor the
24:55
Speaker 2: messages that you are sending. I mean, what could possibly
24:58
Speaker 2: go wrong?
25:00
Speaker 6: Loving family will not be able to message America for help.
25:04
Speaker 6: Now they have made the great, wise decision against warkness.
25:07
Speaker 6: What their brave warrior and their thinking warrior.
25:11
Speaker 3: No, I mean, this.
25:12
Speaker 4: Is the classic path that any authoritarian regime goes down,
25:16
Speaker 4: silencing and stopping free citizens from communicating with one another
25:21
Speaker 4: organizing things. Good luck having any sort of political opposition
25:25
Speaker 4: when your primary method of communication that's actually protected from
25:29
Speaker 4: state is is banned and replaced with a surveillance system.
25:34
Speaker 3: So yeah, classic and exactly what everyone does.
25:37
Speaker 1: I think all the members of the opposition are already dead,
25:40
Speaker 1: having been killed by Blair Putin and tiding up those
25:44
Speaker 1: loose ends. Well in advance, they did it for freedom, guys.
25:47
Speaker 2: If they don't manage it, if they don't manage to
25:49
Speaker 2: poison you with a cap of te, which is of
25:50
Speaker 2: course they charge to before another chuck, they won't try that,
25:54
Speaker 2: they will eventually get even in Salisbury. Don't try, they
25:57
Speaker 2: will eventually get to you. How crazy I don't know
26:01
Speaker 2: if you've seen some of these clips that I've just
26:03
Speaker 2: been playing around the place, But how crazy has Hunter
26:06
Speaker 2: Biden gone? Oh, the crackhead president son or sorry, the
26:11
Speaker 2: president wasn't the crackhead I should clarify the head son
26:14
Speaker 2: of the former before Joe gets on the phone and says, no,
26:21
Speaker 2: it wasn't crack I was using it as just whatever
26:23
Speaker 2: the hell's I gonna kill my hands on to pump
26:26
Speaker 2: me up so I could go out and do my
26:29
Speaker 2: presses and debates and stuff. That's one of the things
26:32
Speaker 2: he's been talking about is what he was pumped up
26:34
Speaker 2: with when he went out, of course, to that faithful
26:37
Speaker 2: debate with Donald Trump. So Hunter Biden goes on and
26:40
Speaker 2: does this interview with this YouTuber. He has a YouTube
26:43
Speaker 2: channel called Channel five It is a bizarre interview from
26:48
Speaker 2: go to Woe, but there are a couple of points
26:51
Speaker 2: he makes. One is that the reason his father was
26:55
Speaker 2: not able to continue running for president is because he
26:58
Speaker 2: was taking.
26:59
Speaker 7: Sleeping I know exactly what happened in that debate. He
27:03
Speaker 7: flew around the world, basically the mileage that he could
27:07
Speaker 7: have flown around the world three times. He's eighty one
27:09
Speaker 7: years old, he's tired. To give him ambient to be
27:12
Speaker 7: able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and
27:15
Speaker 7: he looks like he's a deer in the headlades.
27:17
Speaker 2: It's like he's he's almost there. He almost gets it.
27:22
Speaker 2: The problem is that his father was eighty one years
27:25
Speaker 2: old and was really tired from doing his job, which
27:29
Speaker 2: has been the president of the United States. So they
27:32
Speaker 2: had to give him drugs to get him to some
27:34
Speaker 2: sort of equilibrium, and then he couldn't front up and
27:37
Speaker 2: do a debt. It's like he almost realizes what was wrong.
27:41
Speaker 2: I suspect the biggest problem for Hunter Biden is that
27:44
Speaker 2: he can no longer trade off the fact that his
27:46
Speaker 2: father is either the vice president or the president of
27:49
Speaker 2: the United States. So it's very hard to make money
27:52
Speaker 2: in Ukraine. Like he used to out of barisma and
27:55
Speaker 2: the other thing he went off his chops about was
27:57
Speaker 2: always celebrities who came out sat saying, you don't think
28:00
Speaker 2: Joe's really jump here and this is really the best
28:03
Speaker 2: we've got. George Clooney was in for a spray.
28:06
Speaker 7: George Clooney is not an actor. He is a like
28:11
Speaker 7: I don't know what he is. He's a brand and
28:13
Speaker 7: by the way, and God bless him, you know what.
28:16
Speaker 7: He's funstly, treats his friends really well, you know what
28:18
Speaker 7: I mean, buys them things, and he's got a really
28:20
Speaker 7: great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with
28:23
Speaker 7: Barack Obama. You what do you have to do with anything?
28:26
Speaker 7: Why do I have to listen to you? What right
28:28
Speaker 7: do you have to step on a man who's given
28:30
Speaker 7: fifty two years of his life to the service of
28:33
Speaker 7: this country.
28:35
Speaker 2: You just get the sense that Hunters are pissed off
28:39
Speaker 2: by something.
28:39
Speaker 4: Anyone who has to use the F word that many
28:43
Speaker 4: times in a single sentence, I mean, seriously unwell, I
28:53
Speaker 4: wonder what's happened to Hunter, And I also don't understand
28:56
Speaker 4: what his strategy is at the moment. He was relatively
28:59
Speaker 4: quiet after after Biden was replaced by KRMLA. I didn't
29:02
Speaker 4: really come out during the election, has been silent, and
29:05
Speaker 4: now he's just gone on this massive pr tour.
29:08
Speaker 3: It seems like appearing on all.
29:09
Speaker 4: These podcasts, but anytime he opens his mouth, things just
29:13
Speaker 4: get worse for him. And I don't know why he's
29:16
Speaker 4: doing this. Given if the autopen stuff is found to
29:18
Speaker 4: be unconstitutional, he could have himself facing a lot of
29:22
Speaker 4: criminal prosecutions, and he's going to need all the friends
29:25
Speaker 4: in elites and high places he can get, so I
29:28
Speaker 4: wouldn't go slagging everyone off just yet.
29:30
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean. He's like the Megan Markle
29:33
Speaker 1: of the Bidens, Like he's got no other talents, he's
29:36
Speaker 1: got no other skills. He's been a complete f up
29:38
Speaker 1: his entire life. Everything he seems to have tried to achieve,
29:42
Speaker 1: he's done on the back of his daddy's name, and
29:46
Speaker 1: so he does not have any sort of life of
29:49
Speaker 1: his own that he can concentrate on. Other I think
29:51
Speaker 1: he's becoming a watercolorist or something. He's becoming a pactor
29:54
Speaker 1: or something.
29:55
Speaker 2: He can't call. He's dead the big guy.
29:56
Speaker 1: He became an absolute dead weight on his father. I
30:00
Speaker 1: mean you talk about dragging Joe Biden down. No one
30:04
Speaker 1: dragged Joe Biden down more than Hunter Biden. I mean
30:08
Speaker 1: the laptop scandal that was itself scandalously denied and swept
30:13
Speaker 1: under the carpet by all the usual things that have
30:15
Speaker 1: turned out to be true. It was horrendously damaging and
30:18
Speaker 1: horrendously one of the many reasons, apart from Biden's clear
30:22
Speaker 1: cognitive decline or clear inability to perform, that Hunter Biden
30:26
Speaker 1: actually admits was staring us right in the face like
30:28
Speaker 1: Joe was, you know, and then and then he blames
30:32
Speaker 1: on all people, of all people, on George Clooney.
30:34
Speaker 2: Justice was that great, great work by our friend Miranda Devanne.
30:37
Speaker 1: Of course, that's exactly wrote the book on wrote the book.
30:40
Speaker 2: But the White House responded, one of the spokeswomen, Abigail
30:44
Speaker 2: Jackson said, CBP agents was just shot in the face
30:47
Speaker 2: by two criminal legal aliens that Joe Barden led into
30:50
Speaker 2: the country. But Hunter is more concerned about who is
30:52
Speaker 2: going to clean up his hotel after his benders. This
30:56
Speaker 2: sort of collosus, self interested maliciousness from the entire Biden
31:00
Speaker 2: crime family is exactly why Joe Biden left office with
31:05
Speaker 2: record low approval ratings. And as you say, Joe, you
31:09
Speaker 2: might want to look in the mirror Hunter because reportedly
31:12
Speaker 2: in the dying days of his presidency, Hunter was very
31:17
Speaker 2: close to his father and coaching him and trying to
31:20
Speaker 2: get him through things. Look, you know, I would recommend that, Like,
31:24
Speaker 2: if you're about to be deposed as president because you've
31:27
Speaker 2: got issues with cognitive decline and you're not altogether there,
31:31
Speaker 2: maybe don't get your crackheads n to be your.
31:34
Speaker 1: Advanced tried David Axerov, Jo Carvell. You've probably got their numbers,
31:39
Speaker 1: you know they're around.
31:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely not the first person I would be taking
31:43
Speaker 4: advice from at all. I also wouldn't be taking advice
31:47
Speaker 4: from the Victorian Labor government. The state is basically a
31:51
Speaker 4: failed state that can't do anything anymore, and that includes
31:56
Speaker 4: their public transport system. US here in New South Wales
32:00
Speaker 4: have this great thing called the Opal system, and you
32:03
Speaker 4: don't even need an open card anymore. You can just
32:05
Speaker 4: tap on with your Apple Pay on your phone or
32:08
Speaker 4: your credit card and you're good to go. But in Victoria,
32:12
Speaker 4: some stations are still using paper tickets, others are just
32:19
Speaker 4: being upgraded to a tap and go system. Eighteen months
32:24
Speaker 4: behind schedule, costing billions of dollars.
32:29
Speaker 3: Now, this is truly just another.
32:30
Speaker 4: Example of how the Allen Labor government in Victoria cannot
32:35
Speaker 4: run anything.
32:38
Speaker 2: I was gobsmacked when I read this today that they
32:41
Speaker 2: still have And of course it's in the regions on
32:43
Speaker 2: v line. There are parts of Victoria where they don't
32:46
Speaker 2: even have Mikey at all. This thing's existed for nearly
32:49
Speaker 2: twenty years. In the city, they're about to finally upgrade
32:52
Speaker 2: it so you can use your phone or your credit
32:54
Speaker 2: card or whatever. And in parts of Victoria they still
32:57
Speaker 2: don't have access to an elec tronic ticketing system. How
33:02
Speaker 2: is this real? I mean, notwithstanding the fact that Mikey
33:05
Speaker 2: has just been a terrible system. I mean, I lived
33:07
Speaker 2: in Melbourne for a while. Every time I go back there,
33:09
Speaker 2: I realize I don't have a Mikey card or mess
33:13
Speaker 2: I've got. I've got a market card. Basically every jacket
33:17
Speaker 2: in my water not good for plastic, No exactly, papers
33:21
Speaker 2: much better. Maybe they should go back to paper all together.
33:23
Speaker 2: But how is this real? There's the parts of Victoria
33:26
Speaker 2: when you have to buy a paper ticket.
33:28
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Did you know, by the way, fun fat
33:30
Speaker 1: that I learned from the cross Words that the English
33:33
Speaker 1: have a word for a booklet of train tickets. It's
33:37
Speaker 1: called a carnate.
33:38
Speaker 2: There you go.
33:38
Speaker 1: It's a word that, as far as I've know, no
33:40
Speaker 1: other society, no other culture, no other country has ever
33:44
Speaker 1: found or needed the necessity of inventing. But that's part
33:48
Speaker 1: of the culture that's going to be lost.
33:50
Speaker 2: Well, and they're still in use to.
33:53
Speaker 1: So I remember. So I moved from Melbourne to Sydney
33:55
Speaker 1: in two thousand and I was amazed at Sydney still
33:58
Speaker 1: didn't moved to Sydney into great ticketing, so it was
34:02
Speaker 1: a great yet I loved it went fully native. I'm like,
34:04
Speaker 1: we had you know, Zone mine two and three and
34:06
Speaker 1: used it on a bus or a tram or a
34:07
Speaker 1: train or whatever it is. It's all totally fine. Whereas
34:09
Speaker 1: in Sydney they still had separate train tickets, separate bus tickets,
34:13
Speaker 1: separate faery tickets and a lot. I'm like, this is crazy,
34:15
Speaker 1: this is crazy. And then the then Melbourne started rolling
34:19
Speaker 1: out the sort of Mike you suffing. I'm like, this
34:21
Speaker 1: is crazy, it's crazy. I was a state political reporter
34:23
Speaker 1: doing a lot of transport stuff at the time, and
34:25
Speaker 1: I said, why don't you actually just just copy what
34:27
Speaker 1: Melbourne's doing and just do that and just bring it here.
34:30
Speaker 1: And I said, no, no, no, no, no, you know,
34:32
Speaker 1: we want we're working on something, but we want to
34:34
Speaker 1: get it right and we think we might have found
34:36
Speaker 1: a better way. So you guys don't know what you're
34:37
Speaker 1: talking about. And then sure enough, I think there we are.
34:40
Speaker 2: They had the last laugh. Well, while we're talking about Victoria,
34:44
Speaker 2: this story is absolutely outrageous. One of the worst child
34:49
Speaker 2: offenders in the state of Victoria has now been released
34:53
Speaker 2: into the community without any watch over him, no eye
34:57
Speaker 2: over him, no regulation, no community based order or anything,
35:01
Speaker 2: because they say, despite the fact that you know, he's
35:05
Speaker 2: faced more than four hundred charges before, he's been bailed
35:09
Speaker 2: more than fifty times, we're not going to put anything
35:11
Speaker 2: on him this time because we just know he's going
35:13
Speaker 2: to break it anyway. So what's the.
35:16
Speaker 1: Point If only there were something she could do, Like, it's.
35:19
Speaker 2: Just astounding that were this guy has made himself ungovernable.
35:23
Speaker 3: Well, I find this so funny.
35:25
Speaker 4: The Victorian courts are essentially saying they cannot control this
35:29
Speaker 4: notorious youth offender.
35:31
Speaker 3: Yet just Siner Allen is going.
35:33
Speaker 4: To ban machetes and that is going to solve youth crisis.
35:37
Speaker 4: I mean they have no credibility. It's a core group
35:40
Speaker 4: of about three hundred youth offenders that are committing most
35:43
Speaker 4: of the crime. If they can't lock them up, they
35:46
Speaker 4: are failing their first duty as a government, which is
35:49
Speaker 4: to keep your citizens safe.
35:51
Speaker 2: It's sending a great messages and it seriously. After the break,
35:54
Speaker 2: we'll get into the papers. How do you like the
35:57
Speaker 2: idea being p one hundred thousand dollars a year to
36:00
Speaker 2: tell union students don't vape there? It could be your
36:03
Speaker 2: job will tell you how to get it soon, Let's
36:14
Speaker 2: get into the papers. On the front of the Herald
36:15
Speaker 2: Sun tomorrow, exclusive from Reagan Hodgits is puffed up vape role.
36:20
Speaker 2: A Melbourne university is hiring an anti vaping officer with
36:23
Speaker 2: a salary of more than one hundred thousand dollars. The
36:26
Speaker 2: University of Melbourne is advertising the role of vaping Prevention
36:30
Speaker 2: Project officer with a paypacket of ninety eight thousand, eight
36:34
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy dollars to one hundred and seven thousand
36:37
Speaker 2: and twenty three dollars plus super The candidate will lead
36:40
Speaker 2: the Parkful University's quote impactful Vaping Prevention Project, which will
36:46
Speaker 2: make a lasting impact on student health. It will involve
36:50
Speaker 2: creating a vaping prevention plan, delivering workshops and promoting anti
36:56
Speaker 2: vaping campaigns. I mean, who would have thought that you
37:00
Speaker 2: could be paid one hundred and seven thousand and twenty
37:03
Speaker 2: three bucks a year plus super to tell kids that
37:06
Speaker 2: vaping is bad. Sign me up, I reckon I could
37:09
Speaker 2: do that job. And this perfectly.
37:11
Speaker 3: Easily sounds like a super easy job.
37:13
Speaker 4: And it's so frustrating when universities cry poor and demand
37:17
Speaker 4: more international students, but then they have jobs like this
37:21
Speaker 4: being advertising.
37:21
Speaker 1: That was that was my old union I was. I'm
37:23
Speaker 1: a Melbourne UNI guy and I edited this or co
37:26
Speaker 1: editor with other friends.
37:28
Speaker 3: Do a love student paper referential hire.
37:31
Speaker 1: I just want to say to whoever's running Melbourne UNI
37:33
Speaker 1: at the moment. Actually it's a friend of mine is
37:35
Speaker 1: a vice chancellor. She was a former student union time
37:38
Speaker 1: as well. But to the authorities at Melbourne University, I
37:41
Speaker 1: used to smoke homemade bongs in the dark room. If
37:44
Speaker 1: you could just go and investigate that, if the vaping
37:47
Speaker 1: officer could get onto that, because I'm pretty sure there's
37:49
Speaker 1: still some pretty toxic chemicals there from the last time.
37:52
Speaker 2: So when they come up with the bomb prevention project, Officer,
37:56
Speaker 2: you'll be putting your with that.
37:58
Speaker 1: I could, I'd roll over for a pack of cigarettes
38:03
Speaker 1: to Okay.
38:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, stick to your commentary and journalism jobs, Joe.
38:10
Speaker 4: In The Australian tomorrow, the headline is knives out for
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Speaker 4: net Zero. Michael McCormack will vote for Barnaby Joyce's Private
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Speaker 4: members Bill to repeal net zero and is refusing to
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Speaker 4: rule out a future tilt at the Nationals leadership. As
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Speaker 4: the two former deputy Prime Ministers deliver a scathing assessment
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Speaker 4: of David Little Proud's handling of the aftermath of the
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Speaker 4: May election defeat. Mister Joyce said he can as support
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Speaker 4: for mister McCormack to contest the National leadership after the
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Speaker 4: May election and would vote for his former rival if
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Speaker 4: the Riverina MP ran in the future, in comments that
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Speaker 4: will heat pressure on mister Little Proud in the first
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Speaker 4: sinning week of the forty eighth Parliament. Ah, this is
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Speaker 4: very big. This is not good for coalition stability. This
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Speaker 4: is an interesting development to former rivals come together United
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Speaker 4: in their hatred of net zero. I mean, this is
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Speaker 4: a fire red hot political issue, but wow, lots of
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Speaker 4: instability to come.
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Speaker 1: I expect they're more united the hatred of David Littleowd
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Speaker 1: than they are in their hatred of net zero. I
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Speaker 1: think the net zero they're most interested in isn't the
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Speaker 1: carbon emissions, but rather the number of votes that Little Proud.
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Speaker 1: But I think you've still got a majority that when they
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Speaker 1: because you've obviously got a good friend of the show,
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Speaker 1: Matt Canavan and and who is Barnaby protege. And you've
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Speaker 1: got Michael McCormack, who was the sort of Barnaby dark horse.
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Speaker 1: But I think Little Proud still has only much. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think you've still got a love.
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Speaker 2: I love this quote from Michael McCormick asked about him
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Speaker 2: teaming up with Barnaby Joyce. You can't make this stuff
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Speaker 2: up sometimes, and and that would seem very much to
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Speaker 2: be true. Who would have thought these two would come together?
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's good to see people across the divis,
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Speaker 2: across the aisle called the Little Party getting to get
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Speaker 2: that to stand up for what is right, of course
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Speaker 2: in this case is getting rid of his that's right.
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Speaker 1: Well, united in the cause of division. I think what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing here, how.
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Speaker 2: Did we stand divided with?
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Speaker 1: That's right over the mighty Daily Telegraph, massive front page.
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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Firstly, my very good friend, as you would know,
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Speaker 1: James Willis.
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Speaker 2: There's no greater friend.
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Speaker 1: There's no greater friend. Half a man exclusive. While this
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Speaker 1: man plays golf in city is rural neighbors are agonizing
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Speaker 1: over dozens of wind turbines to be built on his
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Speaker 1: profit property. It's a rough deal, get it. Because he's
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Speaker 1: in the rough on the golf course and in the
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Speaker 1: rough over the wind turbines. And of course James Willison
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Speaker 1: has been down in Yas. I think it was he
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Speaker 1: went to to get gauge community support or anger rather
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Speaker 1: at all these wind farms that are popping up and
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Speaker 1: the next door to people who are there while he's
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Speaker 1: swamming around. Anyway, James Willis says, playing a round of
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Speaker 1: golf and an exclusive Eastern Suburbs club is part of
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Speaker 1: the course. Oh that's good for will Kelly, who stands
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Speaker 1: millions of dollars from dozens of wind turmaids on his
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Speaker 1: funeral on his rural property could be his funeral as
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Speaker 1: well if the anger gets out of control to the
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Speaker 1: annoyance of his neighbour neighbors. And the other great yarn
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Speaker 1: they've got is from my friend and your friend, my
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Speaker 1: friend cayleb, my great friend, your great friend. I've exchanged
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Speaker 1: emails with her, and so I'm going to call her
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Speaker 1: my great friend as well. A kid's coach or predator
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Speaker 1: Exclusive by Susan Giuliani, child predators are using fake working
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Speaker 1: with children checks at local sport clubs in a bid
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Speaker 1: to gain access to kids. The co founder of a
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Speaker 1: Western Sydney recreational sports team said they had received fraudulent
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Speaker 1: working with children checks and also had people who had
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Speaker 1: been barred from working with children applying to work as
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Speaker 1: a coach. Susan has been doing amazing work on this,
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Speaker 1: and there's all these loopholes that she's uncovered with these
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Speaker 1: working with children checks, where basically you can be banned
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Speaker 1: or suspended from say working to school or whatever while
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Speaker 1: you're under investigation you're doing something dodgy, but you could
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Speaker 1: still continue on as a tutor, or you could still
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Speaker 1: continue on to coach school, sport or whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: And because people just aren't doing the necessary checks, or
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Speaker 1: those or the or the authority form. The working with
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Speaker 1: Children certificate isn't immediately canceled by being investigated all sorts
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Speaker 1: of stuff, So great works.
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Speaker 2: Just going back for a minute to the wind turbine stuff.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's indicative of exactly what's going on here
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Speaker 2: that people are appeeved that the bloke next door is
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Speaker 2: going to ruin their land value. He should be very
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Speaker 2: careful because he may well get clubbed, and quite rightly
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Speaker 2: his neighbors have a chip on their shoulder about.
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Speaker 1: This stuff, KAYLB.
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Speaker 2: But I think you'll find it's just a wedge issue.
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Speaker 2: But the other story, of course, the working with children checks.
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Speaker 2: How brazen do you have to be to make up
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Speaker 2: a fake working with children check? To try and get
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Speaker 2: a job at a school or coaching local sport or
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Speaker 2: whatever like that is a ridiculous level of desperation. And
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Speaker 2: you wonder how many of these have slipped through the
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Speaker 2: cracks where they haven't realized that it was fake, And
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Speaker 2: some that should be nowhere near kids has been what
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Speaker 2: it gets.
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Speaker 4: And you never assume that people like this are going
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Speaker 4: to come after your kids. You never assume they're going
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Speaker 4: to be in your sports club. But I think the
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Speaker 4: lesson from this whole horrendous saga is that you can
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Speaker 4: never be too vigilant.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, while we're talking about children, on the front of
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Speaker 2: the Courier Mail tomorrow revealed hundreds of kids in care missing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how does this happen? The lost children is
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Speaker 2: the headline. Hundreds of Queensland children in state sanctioned residential
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Speaker 2: care are missing from the system, with the government launching
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Speaker 2: an emergency order to find them and get their lives
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Speaker 2: back on track. It can also be revealed a majority
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Speaker 2: of residential care providers in Queensland are unlicensed and are
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Speaker 2: not bound to strict child protection laws, nor monitored or
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Speaker 2: audited by state authorities. It's the Child Safety Minister said
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Speaker 2: allowing one vulnerable child to self place in Queensland is
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Speaker 2: unacceptable to me, let alone seven hundred and eighty young people.
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Speaker 2: That's why I have ordered a full audit. So seven
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty children are just I don't know in
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Speaker 2: there in Queensland.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just like I think it was eight thousand or
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Speaker 1: thousands and thousand kids just disappeared out of the school
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Speaker 1: system after the COVID school closures. That disappears done don't
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Speaker 1: know where they are, and I guarantee you if you
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Speaker 1: don't know where a kid is, they're not in a
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Speaker 1: good play.
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Speaker 4: Well that's the problem, right, And no checks on who's
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Speaker 4: actually looking after these kids, no audits or anything. So
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Speaker 4: good on David Chris of Foley for taking action on that.
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Speaker 4: In the Townsville bulletin. This is a very sad story.
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Speaker 4: We won't go into the details too much on air,
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Speaker 4: but you can obviously pick up the paper and read
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Speaker 4: it for yourself tomorrow. But essentially what's happened is a
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Speaker 4: man has killed his mother's dog in a very brutal way.
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Speaker 4: And after this horrendous act, which was witnessed by others,
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Speaker 4: he was charged but then released with eighteen months but
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Speaker 4: released on He was charged in arrested, sorry I should say,
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Speaker 4: for eighteen months, but released on immediate parole.
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Speaker 3: So after committing.
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Speaker 4: A brutal act, he is back out into the community,
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Speaker 4: free to go. We know that animal abuse is generally
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Speaker 4: an indicator for criminality, and so this is extremely disturbing.
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Speaker 2: And the guy has a criminal history. I mean the
45:21
Speaker 2: headline is right, justice for Pippe. You know I just
45:26
Speaker 2: got very quickly.
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Speaker 1: Joe, Yes, here's a picture of a crocodile.
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Speaker 2: That's all it is. If we've got the slightly bitter
45:36
Speaker 2: animal story, that is brut just the.
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Speaker 1: Famous salted crocodile. They've got pictures of him attacking another crocodile,
45:42
Speaker 1: which is goes to show you how big, bad and
45:44
Speaker 1: mean a crocodile he is. And another fun fact, as
45:47
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, if you get a crop on
45:49
Speaker 1: the front page of the NT news, you have to
45:51
Speaker 1: buy the entire newser a slab of beer so well
45:54
Speaker 1: done through.
45:54
Speaker 2: Whover and that's exactly how we lack. And after the break,
45:58
Speaker 2: you go to the supermarket or the green gross you
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Speaker 2: want to buy some vegetables. Is it okay to only
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Speaker 2: take off as much from a bunch or a stalk
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Speaker 2: of broccoli as you want to take home? One green
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Speaker 2: grosser says, don't do it. We'll discuss that soon. Get
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Speaker 2: your grubby hands off my broccoli. That's what one green
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Speaker 2: grocer in Melbourne is saying. Because it turns out apparently
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Speaker 2: now people you know, struggling with the cost of living,
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Speaker 2: they don't want to pay for the stalk because of
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Speaker 2: coause when you get up to the counter and they
46:29
Speaker 2: weigh the broccoli or any other vegetable for that matter,
46:31
Speaker 2: you have to pay for the parts that you're not
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Speaker 2: necessarily going to eat. So people are ripping the stalk
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Speaker 2: off and then when they get to the counter, they're charged.
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Speaker 2: Let's for it. So this green gross has put up
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Speaker 2: a sign in your shop and says, do not break broccoli.
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Speaker 2: You will pay one dollar extra for each you break
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Speaker 2: if we find out fair enough or not.
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Speaker 1: You why would you put if we find out there?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically just saying, you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: get caught.
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Speaker 2: That's always the way.
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Speaker 1: Even if if you don't find out, Like, just pretend
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Speaker 1: you're going to pretend that's right, you will be caught.
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Speaker 2: A little bit.
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Speaker 1: I kind of think, you know, like you can go
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Speaker 1: if you buy bananas, you can go and break up
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Speaker 1: a bunch of bananas and take that to the checkout.
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Speaker 1: You can go and no, but where is the limit
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Speaker 1: to breaking fruit vegetables?
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Speaker 4: I think it's permissible to break if it's a self
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Speaker 4: contained item. So banana, you can break off a few
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Speaker 4: bananas without ruining the other bananas. But no one wants
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Speaker 4: to buy a stalk of broccoli.
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Speaker 3: And that's the problem.
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Speaker 4: You can't break off your little bunch without ruining ruining
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Speaker 4: the integrity of the rest of the brocoly what.
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Speaker 1: About trust tomatoes? If you got little trust to Martos,
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Speaker 1: they're allowed to break off one if you just want one.
47:44
Speaker 1: Trust tomato on the fast is opening a whole can
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Speaker 1: of worms? And are you able to open a can
47:49
Speaker 1: of worms without that?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to read this next story without judgment
47:56
Speaker 1: and without any acknowledgment of guilt. The article headline is
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Speaker 1: quote unquote loud moaning anger as village becomes quote swingers capital.
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Speaker 1: Kinky revelers have descended on a sleepy English village for
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Speaker 1: the country's biggest annual swingers festival, sparking noise complaints from
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Speaker 1: conservative locals. Swing Athon took place this weekend at the
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Speaker 1: town of Allington, two hours north of London thanks for
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Speaker 1: telling us where it is, and has attracted around a
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Speaker 1: thousand amorous attendees. That is more than the number of
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Speaker 1: residents who actually live on the quaint village, which has
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Speaker 1: a listed population eight nine to seven. The three day
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Speaker 1: festival features frisk play, tents or pole dancing, phoam parties,
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Speaker 1: mobile dungeons and an array of sex games. So I'm
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Speaker 1: just going to ask the obvious question, three day swingethon
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Speaker 1: with dungeons and sex games or a mosque.
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Speaker 2: We know Joe wasn't there because he was on the
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Speaker 2: Sunday Show game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is truly disturbing. I feel so bad for
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Speaker 4: those people being out numbered in their own village, my swingers.
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Speaker 4: But just quickly before we go, how would you like
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Speaker 4: to pay over six hundred pounds or one thousand dollars
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Speaker 4: for rubber slides?
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Speaker 3: One thousand dollars for these? This is the latest fashion.
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Speaker 4: Apparently some say it's just rage bait designed to enrage people.
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Speaker 4: And if that was the goal, they've succeeded, because look,
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Speaker 4: we're talking about one thousand dollars slides.
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Speaker 1: They've got a few rubber slides at the Allington.
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Speaker 2: You've got a ro the swingers, hearty, I think you're
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Speaker 2: going to get some Thanks so much for joining us
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Speaker 2: wedepending show up.
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Speaker 6: Thanks to Night