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Adventure, Drama, Love Plus Horrifying Young Washington In Theaters Writer Tom Provost · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: How are you sir?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing well, Thank you? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and so excited to share with a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with you because you're You're going into an area that
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  Speaker 1: I have been crying for for the longest time, and
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  Speaker 1: then to find out that you were working on this
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  Speaker 1: Tom just blows me away because this is exactly what
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  Speaker 1: we need right now.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm excited too, well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for you to take it to the level
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  Speaker 1: that you're taking it, I mean, it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: so exciting for you as a writer and basically as
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  Speaker 1: somebody who understands the past has got to become our
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  Speaker 1: future and you're setting the stones for that path.
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  Speaker 3: It was our director John Ire that was definitely his vision,
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  Speaker 3: and my writing partner Dieter and I were just thrilled
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  Speaker 3: to be able to come on board and help him.
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  Speaker 3: And another fun thing for me was my mother was
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  Speaker 3: an American history professor and taught specifically the Revolution, through
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  Speaker 3: the Civil War and reconstruction. So it meant a lot
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  Speaker 3: to me to be able to work on this, wasn't
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  Speaker 3: it for her?
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  Speaker 1: Is it odd that so many people you could ask
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  Speaker 1: about George Washington and it seems like everybody's got a
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  Speaker 1: different story. And that's why I love this project, because
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  Speaker 1: now you're going to give us focus, and it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be what we learned in the first and
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  Speaker 1: second grade or what we may have had later on
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  Speaker 1: in history class. I mean, you give us that opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to really get in to know the man.
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  Speaker 3: Very much so, and you know, and I have to
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  Speaker 3: be careful because I keep getting in trouble on interviews
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  Speaker 3: with my team giving away spoilers. And it's funny to
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  Speaker 3: talk about spoilers with someone so famous. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: go to the Titanic movie and you pretty much know
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  Speaker 3: it's going to sink, right, But the movie is filled
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  Speaker 3: with very surprising details from his youth that I think
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  Speaker 3: most people just don't know. I didn't know about them
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  Speaker 3: when until I started reading five biographies of George Washington.
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  Speaker 3: So there are a lot of really wonderful, surprising things
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  Speaker 3: that happen that, pardon me, broaden your view of the
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  Speaker 3: father of our country.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine no being in that time period and
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  Speaker 1: you really don't have like that solid foundation that he
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  Speaker 1: was about ready to put into formation, Because I mean
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  Speaker 1: there was, it was an element of innocence. But in
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  Speaker 1: order to keep it, we're going to have to make
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  Speaker 1: some moves and make some decisions for this nation.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, very much so.
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  Speaker 3: And the movie, you know, the movie takes place well
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  Speaker 3: before that, right, It ends when he's twenty two ish.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things I love about his story
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  Speaker 3: and about the movie is that in the beginning, he's
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  Speaker 3: very ambitious young man. He wants to be British. He
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  Speaker 3: wants to be part of the you know, very high
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  Speaker 3: up in the British military, and they absolutely won't let
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  Speaker 3: him because he's a commoner.
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  Speaker 2: He's a columnist.
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  Speaker 3: And part of the movie is about him having to
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  Speaker 3: let go of his ego and his ambition and become
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  Speaker 3: more of a servant leader, which is very much what
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  Speaker 3: helped pave the way for everything He did in the
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  Speaker 3: Revolution and then becoming our first president, which he didn't
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  Speaker 3: even want to do, but he did out of servanthood.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you know, there's going to be people, especially down
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  Speaker 1: here in the South, that are going to know they're
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  Speaker 1: going to go and see this movie, and the first
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  Speaker 1: thing they're going to do is they're going to listen
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  Speaker 1: for his voice, because you're right, he does have that
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  Speaker 1: passion for the British. But at the same time he
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  Speaker 1: was over he had some roots right here in the South,
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  Speaker 1: and so I we're wondering if he had a the
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  Speaker 1: early stages of an American Southern accent.
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  Speaker 3: Well as a soutator as an about Southern if you
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  Speaker 3: really think about it, the I would like the true
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  Speaker 3: deep George drawl is very close to British, right, I
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  Speaker 3: mean it just kind of comes, you know, it kind
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  Speaker 3: of derives a little bit out of the British. So
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  Speaker 3: what I will say is that this movie, with an
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  Speaker 3: amazing cast, an amazing crew, lives or dies on George
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  Speaker 3: and the young man William they have cast as George.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now, he is going to
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  Speaker 3: be an enormous star. He is so fantastic in the movie.
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  Speaker 3: And ironically he is British, so he had to learn
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  Speaker 3: not to speak British and he is great in the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean great.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a line in this movie that, for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: it really knocked me over. It was so powerful because
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  Speaker 1: I think it really sets up the scene and I
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  Speaker 1: know that we were going to talk about that. We're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna do any spoilers, but I just want to
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  Speaker 1: say the line. We don't have to go into it
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want, sure, how are you, Alice? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, because that right there that I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that really got into my caverns of
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  Speaker 1: life and just woke me up.
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  Speaker 3: There are a lot of great lights in there that
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  Speaker 3: so many people have. That was one of the fun
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  Speaker 3: things of writing it, because you know, we we have
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  Speaker 3: historical facts, but we don't have verbatim dialogue, and so
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  Speaker 3: as a writer you're working as hard as you can
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  Speaker 3: to be truthful to each character and what you believe
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  Speaker 3: they would have said. And we all were checking each other,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and checking with historians as we went through,
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  Speaker 3: trying to make it as accurate as possible.
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  Speaker 2: But that is a good one, George. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think my One of my favorites is.
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  Speaker 3: His older brother tells him they're all pawns, but then says,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even a pawd can take a king.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing chess.
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  Speaker 3: That really reverberates in the movie over and over and
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  Speaker 3: very much when you think of what happens after the
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  Speaker 3: movie when George really does take the king later on.
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  Speaker 1: What is that like for you as a writer in
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  Speaker 1: knowing that words on a page are one thing, but
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  Speaker 1: when other people are using your words all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: that changes the entire landscape of who you are as
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  Speaker 1: that creative person.
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  Speaker 2: Very much so.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a true story. Writers in Hollywood tend
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  Speaker 3: to be a little grumpy because we write something and
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  Speaker 3: then when you see it on screen, it's not what
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  Speaker 3: you wrote.
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  Speaker 2: And that has happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: A number of times where I'm pretty grumpy about what
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  Speaker 3: ended up on screen. This movie is very different for me.
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  Speaker 3: And as you know, the movie opens partly with this
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  Speaker 3: big battle scene, and I was able to go to
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  Speaker 3: the set one day when they were shooting, which is
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  Speaker 3: also rare for a writer because writers, once a movie
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  Speaker 3: starts shooting, writers are like lower than craft services, like
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  Speaker 3: nobody wants the writer around, we're low in the hierarchy,
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  Speaker 3: and so my writing partner and I were able to
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  Speaker 3: go to the set and it was the day they
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  Speaker 3: were shooting this big initial part of this battle scene,
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  Speaker 3: and I kind of made a fool of myself on
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  Speaker 3: the set because I started crying because you see what
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  Speaker 3: we wrote being brought in front of me in real
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  Speaker 3: time so vividly to life. Was It was one of
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  Speaker 3: the more moving experiences I've had in my career. And
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  Speaker 3: I still you know, I've seen the movie five times.
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  Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna see eight more times over the next
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  Speaker 3: three weeks, and I love the movie.
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  Speaker 2: It is a joy to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I am a true believer that people are going to
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  Speaker 1: be doing the same thing. I was going to say,
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  Speaker 1: This is not just a July fourth weekend kind of adventure.
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  Speaker 1: What you've got here is something that it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be November and December that we're still going to be
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  Speaker 1: wanting to see this movie because there are it's like
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  Speaker 1: there's little easter eggs in it that you want to
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  Speaker 1: go back and you want to do it again and
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  Speaker 1: see if you can find something deeper.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, I agree, and I hope that you're right
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  Speaker 3: we are hoping it does really well box office wise.
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  Speaker 3: But I also think this is a movie that, because
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  Speaker 3: of the way it's made and John Irwin, the director's vision,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a movie that's really going to endure
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  Speaker 3: and be around for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look at that can. I mean, my god,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you had to have been like a child
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  Speaker 1: in a candy store when you started hearing about Ben
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  Speaker 1: Kingsley and Kelsey Grammar and everybody else, because all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you were now part of a project that
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  Speaker 1: was major.
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  Speaker 2: League exactly, and that wasn't initially the original intent.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the strength of the script and then
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  Speaker 3: John himself and his vision was able to attract, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he and Kelsey had done the movie before, and
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey was very excited to work with him again. And then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of times the project just gets
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  Speaker 3: a certain feel, and so we were very blessed to
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  Speaker 3: get this amazing cast. I mean, Sir Ben Kingsley, my goodness,
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  Speaker 3: Mary Lubi's Parker is his mom. And then probably my
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  Speaker 3: favorite is Andy Serkis as Braddock. I thought he was
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  Speaker 3: fantastic as General Braddock, the you know who steps in
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  Speaker 3: at the end and has no idea what he's getting into,
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  Speaker 3: which again is very true.
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  Speaker 1: So well, whoever your marketing department is, let's give them
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  Speaker 1: a big kudos and a pat on the back, because,
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  Speaker 1: my god, do we just wrapped up a weekend where
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  Speaker 1: we saw him more trailers and more people talking about
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  Speaker 1: this movie, and it's like, oh my god, they're playing
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  Speaker 1: this game right. They're getting us to get the conversation
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  Speaker 1: going so that we can go. That's what I love
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  Speaker 1: about modern day theaters. I'm going to reserve my seats
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  Speaker 1: long before that movie even comes out. And you guys
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  Speaker 1: did it this past weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the fact that, like a lot of people,
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  Speaker 3: I went to see Disclosure Day. I'm a big Spillwork
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  Speaker 3: fan and I was so thrilled just to see a
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  Speaker 3: little teaser before Disclosure Day, which opened really big that weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're posters everywhere. The marketing team is killing it definitely,
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  Speaker 3: and the main two and a half minute trailer took
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  Speaker 3: my breath away.
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  Speaker 2: It's just terrific.
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  Speaker 1: There's something that's spoken inside this or actually it's the actions,
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  Speaker 1: and that is the word service. That word service is
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  Speaker 1: huge in my heart because nowadays it's looked upon as
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  Speaker 1: being outreached, but we're learning something about George Washington that
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  Speaker 1: service meant something else to this man.
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  Speaker 3: He was he very much became and we see this
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  Speaker 3: by the end of the movie, became I'm an ambitious,
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  Speaker 3: self centered young man, at least to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 3: He very much became a servant leader. I would say,
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  Speaker 3: a leader who washed his feet. Frankly, that's who he became.
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  Speaker 3: And one of John the director's desires and telling the
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  Speaker 3: story is that we can historically look at the great
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  Speaker 3: men and women in our country and in the world
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  Speaker 3: and try to emulate what they do. But really what's
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  Speaker 3: even more important in terms of, say, my life as
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a better person, is to understand
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  Speaker 3: how they became great. And that's what this movie is about.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, we know he is the father of our country.
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  Speaker 3: How did that happen?
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  Speaker 2: And particularly because.
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  Speaker 3: His story as a youth is filled with such disastrous
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  Speaker 3: failure and so many difficulties once he brought on himself
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  Speaker 3: and ones that just happened to him, I find it
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  Speaker 3: very uplifting and edifying because as difficult as life can
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  Speaker 3: be for most of us, and you see this story
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  Speaker 3: about this part of his life and see him endure
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  Speaker 3: and survive and become a better person because of his
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  Speaker 3: failures and the difficulty it. Frankly, it just helps me
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  Speaker 3: get through the day when I'm having a really difficult
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  Speaker 3: day and I think, Okay, there's a reason behind what
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  Speaker 3: I'm experiencing. And I hope a lot of people can
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  Speaker 3: draw that from the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what they're going to draw from it.
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  Speaker 1: I hope these movie theaters have an area where people
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  Speaker 1: can go sit down and talk about it, because I
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  Speaker 1: got in the longest conversation yesterday about just how everybody
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  Speaker 1: gets their own interpretation. But you know what, the thing
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  Speaker 1: about it is, nobody argued, we just bent our story
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  Speaker 1: so that we all went, you right, that's exactly Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, that's exactly what he would have been.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. I love that.
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  Speaker 3: And John the director, has said repeatedly one of the
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  Speaker 3: things he hopes this will do is if someone sees
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  Speaker 3: the movie, then it will drive them to history books, yep,
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  Speaker 3: to read more and more about Washington and all the
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  Speaker 3: people that were live around you know that were live
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  Speaker 3: at that time, and and we you know, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a political film.
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  Speaker 2: At all.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a historical look at this man, and as
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  Speaker 3: divided as the country can seem right now, at times,
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  Speaker 3: we'd like to think it's a movie that can unify people.
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  Speaker 3: And even if you or I have very different political beliefs,
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  Speaker 3: we can look at this movie and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good man and the experiment of America is
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  Speaker 3: going strong.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you just brought up something very interesting
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  Speaker 1: there when you said the country being divided. Well, as
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  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, back then it was too. It
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  Speaker 1: was just it was a division between us and the
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  Speaker 1: mother country. So to me, you're taking me back to
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  Speaker 1: the roots.
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  Speaker 2: You know. That's so true.
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  Speaker 3: And I laugh sometimes because people get so upset at
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  Speaker 3: how divided things are today.
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  Speaker 2: But it was terrible back then too. Politically.
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  Speaker 3: There's a great William Safire book called Scandalmonger that talks about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the late seventeen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 3: all the vicious, awful political conniving that we're going on
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  Speaker 3: in every place in every presidential campaign back then.
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  Speaker 2: So in some ways it's no different at all. We're
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  Speaker 2: just like our forefathers.
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  Speaker 1: There, Please do not move. There's more with Tom Provosts
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  Speaker 1: coming up next, Young Washington. It's hitting theaters July third
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  Speaker 1: until Yeah, just keep watching it over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: We're back with writer Tom Provost. You talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: reading the five biographies of George Washington. Now you you
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  Speaker 1: must have gotten real close to them, because what I
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  Speaker 1: love about a historian and a biographer is the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they're like little they're they're they're they're very giddy
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  Speaker 1: about what they're researching, and my god when they get
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  Speaker 1: focused on stuff. So I did you get to talk
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  Speaker 1: to the authors, because I mean they take that stuff seriously.
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  Speaker 2: I did not.
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  Speaker 3: I just read and and we joked because my writing
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  Speaker 3: partner really dove into all the biographies in depth all
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  Speaker 3: the way through. My focus was like I would get
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  Speaker 3: to when George was twenty five and then start skimming
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  Speaker 3: because I was, and I even went to Mount Vernon.
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  Speaker 3: I was really trying to dive into just that part
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  Speaker 3: of his life. And again for me, because my as
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  Speaker 3: I said, my mom was an American history professor, and
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  Speaker 3: when I was growing up, all I wanted to talk
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  Speaker 3: about was movies. I had no interest in history and crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So I think both my parents died young but I
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  Speaker 3: think she's laughing in heaven that I had to finally
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  Speaker 3: immerse myself in her world.
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  Speaker 1: My sister, Margaret lives out in Montana, and she wanted me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she was so adamant in telling me, you
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  Speaker 1: better tell me where he filmed that. He said, because
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  Speaker 1: she is so into all the wars of the States,
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  Speaker 1: especially the Civil War and this one here as well
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  Speaker 1: the Revolutionary War, and so so we She and I
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  Speaker 1: both agreed that it was either in Virginia or Delaware
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  Speaker 1: where you did the shooting. It wasn't or was it Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing anything in the other said, this
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  Speaker 1: is Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, A lot of it was was out
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  Speaker 3: of the country. They did shoot some, well they did,
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  Speaker 3: they did shoot some in the country.
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  Speaker 2: But but.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to find in the United States of America,
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  Speaker 3: places where there aren't telephone poles and fences. True, but
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  Speaker 3: also Ireland in Transylvania are two places. When you're doing
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  Speaker 3: a movie like this, they cost about two thirds less. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so the bang for your buck is amazing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when people see this movie, they cannot believe that it
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  Speaker 3: costs what it costs and that you're seeing what you're
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  Speaker 3: seeing because the battle scenes and the production value and
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  Speaker 3: the costumes and everything are so amazing. But in Ireland
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  Speaker 3: you can get ten minutes outside of Dublin and you
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  Speaker 3: just have fields after fields after fields with no telephone
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  Speaker 3: poles or or fences or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: It just makes it a lot easier to shoot there.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, how we are here. We're all going
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  Speaker 1: to sit there and watch that movie and people are
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  Speaker 1: going to say, I've been there, I've been there, I
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  Speaker 1: know that battle field, and you're just gonna sit there.
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  Speaker 1: And so I said, this is our little cap secret then,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't want to interrupt them thinking that, oh
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  Speaker 1: I've been there. Oh yeah, My wife and I went,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, we were there.
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  Speaker 2: Well like Fort Necessity.
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  Speaker 3: They did such an amazing job recreate that force so accurately,
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  Speaker 3: So if you visit the you know it was burned down.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: So if you visit the recreation now you're going to think, oh,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: they must have just shot at Fort Necessity because the
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: movie does such a great job depicting the reality.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: What did you learn, I mean, in all the prep
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you did, and then all of a sudden the movie
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: started coming together and you started seeing people moving and
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: doing everything. It had to have been a history book
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: for you. Again, you were right back in your mom's class.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, very much so.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I would say for me, one of the most meaningful
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: things and something I did not know is that and
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I got to talk about this without spoiling a couple.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Of things, but it's that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Even the people who were around him at the time,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: even when he was young, but then particularly later in life,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: they would look at his life and tell him a
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: divine hand is guiding you, because there's no way what
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: is occurring in your life could be happening, and there's
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: no way you're even alive unless a divine hand is
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: guiding you. And reading about his life from start to finish,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: it really becomes apparent that he was kind of the
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: in his life was in the hands of someone greater
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: who was guiding him to what the United States to
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: be needed to have happened.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And that's that's very moving to me as well. Well.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Stay, I love that you said that because that really
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: now puts even more depth into the Declaration of Independence,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: because you know, they speak of that we've all got
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: to work together, we've got to be united, we've got
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: to be one person. But there's gonna have to be
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: some things. We're gonna have to play by the rules,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. We as a nation, we're guiding
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the world if you really want to break it down,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: very much so.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: And you know, speaking about lines, I love that line
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: where in the movie where his brother tells him, you
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: know you're I'm miss I'm just generally quoting it, but
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: his brother basically says, you're fighting against something where the
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: rules aren't going to change, and he's like, well, this
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: world needs to be remade. Uh.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: He Ironically he becomes the man that does that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: See, And that's that little sense of arrogance you were
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: talking about, which I smiled when you said that, because
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going he better be arrogant. My god. That in
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: my life, my entire life, I've always seen him as
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: being that guy.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Right exactly. Yeah, he's I mean.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: And something else I love about the movie is that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: And even in my life, even with my mom my
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: view of Washington was this figurehead, a statue, a picture
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: on a dollar bill, someone who seemed very distant from me.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And the movie humanizes him so that we can all
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: understand him and like him and relate to him as
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: a person as the guy just sitting next to us,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: you know, as you see in the movie at like
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: a bar, or at a party or something. He's just
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: a regular guy who, because of what he went through
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: in his youth, was able to become a great man
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: and do something wonderful for the world.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Well see, and that goes through your writing because you
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: totally understand where people are when it comes to getting
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: information and or being entertained. You really lies that We've
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: adapted into having moving pictures with us at all times,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and that's how we know people are through those moving pictures.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: It has to start somewhere, and that's why I'm such
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a pro person when it comes to people have got
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to write their stories because if they don't write their stories,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: someone's going to write it for them.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things we did decide
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: to do, because as you said, it is a moving picture,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: it is a movie.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: It has to work as a movie.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: We did and not much. We changed a couple of
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: timeline things just just to make it more of a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: quote movie. But I was surprised by how little we
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: had to change when you look at what actually happened
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: in his life from age eleven to age twenty two.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It's just a movie script. And you know, as an example,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is a big spoiler. One slight
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: change we made. For instance, well, Kelsey Grammer's character is
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: two people combined into one, and then you know he
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: met the love of his life, Sally, shortly a after
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: she was married. We have the meet before so that
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: there's a little hint of ooh, maybe they could come
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to you know, for somebody who doesn't know, maybe they
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: could come together before she ends up marrying the jerk
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that she ends up marrying, at least.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: According to our movie.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: But so so we were You know, John very much
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: likes to make a movie that the audience will love
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: and respond to and understand, and he has very much
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: done that with this film, and so we tweaked a
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: couple of things. But again I will say overall the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: movie is very historically accurate.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: But you you but a positive to John here, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he put a lot of love and interest
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in it. To me, it doesn't feel like a period piece.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I really felt like it was a piece of our
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: life and these guys just happen to be wearing those clothes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: They happen to be wearing I mean, go riding horses.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But I don't get that, Oh, this is the History
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Channel kind of version of George Washington. I really get
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: into how it feels.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And that's that's John. That's just John is a great director.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: He knows what the audience wants. He's going to give
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the audience what they want. And yes, it's not a stale,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: boring period piece. It is an action romance.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: It's just a blast to watch. Even though there's a
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: lot of history being told in certain lessons being taught,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: it's just a great fun, you know, Titanic kind of movie.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And kudos to you too for not selling out to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: do in a binge watch. I mean even if you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: would have, I'd be there no matter what. But the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: thing is I mean because, I mean because when I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: when I heard that it was that it was going
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to be a full fledged movie, I got excited because
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: it's like I like going to the movie theater. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: like being there. I like experiencing war scenes and and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the way that people have to figure things out, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it's like it's got it all, dude. And once again,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: through the power of your writing, instrument or even typewriter
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that I mean, look at what's happening here.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for saying that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: And I also, I mean as my earliest memory as
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: a child is sitting in a movie theater, and my
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: future was set from that moment on.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I always knew exactly what I wanted to do.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: So I love going to the theater also, And it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: it's been heartening to me that lately, because you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: movie theaters have been having such a difficult time that
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: this year in particular is turning out to be really positive,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: movie positive year four movie theaters. So I hope that
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: will be a big part of that in getting people
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: out and into the into the chairs with their popcorn
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and milk DUTs and enjoy the movie. Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And this is also the year that everybody is saying
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this is the writer's year. In other words, it's the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: writing that's making these movies because people are coming to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: see them and then they keep coming back and stuff,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: so finally they're celebrating the writers of the movies.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: And again, like I said, in Hollywood, writers are always
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: kind of way down, and no I was. I was
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: sharing with my writing partner Diedri because we text we
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: live in different cities, but we talk in text almost
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: every day.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And I saw a quote the other day where Louis B.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Mayer said, it is by far, the writer is by
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: far the most important person on any movie, and we
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: need to do everything we can to never let them
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: know that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, you're speaking to my heart when you talk like that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: So but he just like, you can't let the writers
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: know that they're important because we're treating them so badly. Anyway, Now,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I'm very thankful to be a writer and to have
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: worked on the movie.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be one of those movies that's going
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to inspire others to do it as well. I mean
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it really is, because I mean if you don't go
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and do the research, then then it's something's wrong, because
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, you are, We're gonna go, We're gonna hit YouTube,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna hit you know Google, We're gonna go to chat, GPT.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You have so set up our stage for the post
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: production of our little world that we just experienced.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you. That's that's exciting to hear.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And look the movie in twenty twenty twenty three. There
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: are plenty of sequels and plenty of other people. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: know that that John has had a vision along with this,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: to do actually a multi season series on the revolution
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: where this this, these six episodes focused on this person.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: These six episodes focus on that as you slowly move
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: through a pre revolutionary war then the revolutionary war.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: With movies like this scattered all the way through, it
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: would kind of be.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: A dream project that would last for years as we
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: in this fashion like this movie, kind of walk through
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: that era.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: So I hope he's able to do that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think that this is for the very first
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: time in probably I'm going to say sixty to one
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: hundred years, that we're going to know something more about
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: George Washington than just chopping down that cherry tree.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: There has not been anything like this about him, which
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: again goes to John's vision and is one of the
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: things that I think is so exciting is that there
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: is so much in the movie that people do not
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: know about his life, and it's such an uplifting, edifying movie.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: As difficult as a lot of the circumstances in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: movie are. I mean, it's a suspenseful movie. It's gripping,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: you know, there's danger, battles, all that kind of stuff.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: But it is uniquely original in that way that you're
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: talking about, and so it's exciting to be a part
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: of that as well.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more? And please,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's other ways that people can, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: with all these ways that we can invest in future
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: movies and stuff like that, they'll do it. They'll do
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it if we give them the open door.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: So the first thing to know is the movie opens
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: in less than two weeks July third, very intelligently, right,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We're opening fourth of July weekend, and it's the only, really,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: it's the only thing out there that you know that
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: kind of matches the celebration of our of the two
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: hundred and fiftieth. But you can also go to Angel
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: angel dot com, which is Angel Studios and find out
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: information about the movie.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You can already buy tickets at your.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Local theater through Angel, and Angel does this wonderful thing
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: called pay it Forward, where on their website you're able
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to anybody who wants to are able to buy tickets
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: for younger people who probably can't afford to go to
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the movie. And then so they make sure that those
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: tickets that like I just bought ten the other day.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: That means ten kids can go see this movie when
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: normally they wouldn't be able to. But tickets are on
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: sale right now. Please go sign up and it's a
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: great way to celebrate the fourth You got to.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Come back to this show anytime in the future, man.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: The door is always going to be open for you.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Please ask anytime. I would love that. Thank you.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, sir, you too.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it so much. God bless