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Cannes Lions, BET Awards, Men With Female Friends & My Best Life Moments · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: I don't need to pretend to be someone's friend either.
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  Speaker 1: If I want to fuck them, I will just do that. Hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome Too Personal. It's Joy Taylor. Thanks so much for
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  Speaker 1: joining me. I hope you guys had an amazing weekend.
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  Speaker 1: and if you want some sports updates, follows some daily
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  Speaker 1: play Joy Taylor. I just got back from France. I
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  Speaker 1: was in Bordeaux for a wedding, and then I was
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  Speaker 1: in Cannes, and then I went to Sanchopez, and when
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  Speaker 1: went to Paris for a couple hours, and I got
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  Speaker 1: to see Notre Dame because they finally opened it after
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  Speaker 1: the fire, so I actually got to go in this time,
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  Speaker 1: which was really cool. So I've spent a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time in Europe over this summer, which I really feel
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  Speaker 1: like the summer is almost over.
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  Speaker 2: Like I it's been a very very busy summer.
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  Speaker 1: It's July, and July is already completely scheduled out, So
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's going way too fast. As a
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  Speaker 1: summer person, summer is my favorite season. Everything is going
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  Speaker 1: very fast. But it's been very fun. And I was
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  Speaker 1: in France during a historic heat wave, so I really
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  Speaker 1: did not want to complain about it at all because
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  Speaker 1: I was in France. But I people were, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was is very serious situation. It was so unbelievably hot.
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  Speaker 1: I am so grateful for air conditioning.
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  Speaker 3: Is it humid or dry?
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  Speaker 1: It's humid, and it's it's a I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 1: deadly heat wave.
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  Speaker 2: Like the people are dying. It's so hot.
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  Speaker 1: It's the hottest place on Earth. It's literally it is insane.
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  Speaker 3: Just this year, or it's always way.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're having a heat wave across Europe, but
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  Speaker 1: particularly France, Like it's it was unexplainable how hot it was.
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  Speaker 1: I walked around with like this personal fan the entire week.
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  Speaker 2: I told everyone. I was like, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: hear there will be no judgment this week. Just can't.
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  Speaker 1: If you're smelly, if you're sweaty, if I got them died,
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  Speaker 1: if I got the boob lines like that, once the
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  Speaker 1: tits get hot, it's cooked, like you can't calm them down.
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  Speaker 1: They're just like walking heaters. And but but tip for
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  Speaker 1: the big titty girls. Deodorant, Yeah right, deodorantunder the boot.
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  Speaker 2: A little mini you No, no, you.
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  Speaker 1: Need to stick. You need the stick. Uh you need
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  Speaker 1: the cancer causing stick too. Don't give me get the
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  Speaker 1: aluminum one. No natural shit, it's debunked anyway. But I
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  Speaker 1: had to tell my mother that. She was like, you
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  Speaker 1: can't use that deodorant.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, no, Mom, it's nothing like the Tom's
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  Speaker 3: illumin that you get it like Trader Joe's and Whole Food.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I like them, but I need the
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  Speaker 1: stuff with the chemicals and yeah. And also if you're
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  Speaker 1: if you're a thigh rubber like myself, just toss a
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  Speaker 1: little on here works wonders it does.
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  Speaker 2: It's very serious. Suspects is laughing, but.
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  Speaker 1: Like, listen, if you you would have I I really
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  Speaker 1: like was it was very distracting how hot it was.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't want to complain about it because again
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  Speaker 1: I was in the south of France. But like when
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, it was very serious, very serious. It
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  Speaker 1: was everywhere it was the heat was behind your ears,
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  Speaker 1: so crazy. But it was a great time, and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Europe could use some AC. There are some things about
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  Speaker 1: America that, even though I'm beefing with her right now,
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  Speaker 1: we just get right. Airports superior, superior, even Lax, which
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  Speaker 1: is a actual shithole, superior airports. The water situation. You
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  Speaker 1: know how when you sit down at an American restaurant
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  Speaker 1: and they just immediately bring you water. They don't there
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  Speaker 1: why they hate water? What do they drink everything but water?
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  Speaker 2: Wine? But no the water.
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  Speaker 1: So the water situation across Europe is it is so
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  Speaker 1: frustrating to me as a constant water drinker and.
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  Speaker 3: AC they don't have AC. A lot of places don't
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  Speaker 3: have a c oh see I would have no upper
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  Speaker 3: lip gone you have, Like.
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  Speaker 2: The AC situation is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's that was the.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say struggles was not struggles.
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  Speaker 1: But those are my Those are my recaps of what
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  Speaker 1: I would change about Europe. Yeah, gotta get up on
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  Speaker 1: the water. But yeah, so had a good trip. Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Well, just a little more on can. I saw threads
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  Speaker 3: people were talking about their experiencing imposter syndrome as they're leaving,
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  Speaker 3: So I myself have never been, but I also think
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who have not. So is
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  Speaker 3: it just that there's too much going on and you
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  Speaker 3: can't make everything Because they're saying like if they left early,
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  Speaker 3: that meant they weren't networking enough, they convinced themselves eating
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  Speaker 3: dinner alan they weren't connecting less. Alfred even said she
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  Speaker 3: experienced similar feelings, So like, what is it like, is
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  Speaker 3: it just too much, like it's so saturated with events
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  Speaker 3: or what?
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  Speaker 1: So? CAN is a can Lions is a marketing festival
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  Speaker 1: and they give out awards for a variety of different
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  Speaker 1: things related to marketing.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: Where all the cmos, all the chief revenue officers, all
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  Speaker 1: the presidents, like a lot of the decision makers for
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  Speaker 1: big brands.
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  Speaker 2: Are all in Can.
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  Speaker 1: There are panels, there are events, there are dinners, there
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  Speaker 1: are parties, there are you know, conferences like mini conferences,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people go to connect with these
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  Speaker 1: big brands. And so if you're a creator, which because
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  Speaker 1: the creator market has become such a big part of marketing,
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  Speaker 1: creators are there now more than ever, and there were
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  Speaker 1: a ton of creators there this year.
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  Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 1: People are confused about what can actually is and if
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  Speaker 1: it's your first time, I know a lot of first
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  Speaker 1: time people felt very overwhelmed, which it is. It's very overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: There's NonStop events every hour of the day. You're getting
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  Speaker 1: invites to a bunch of different things you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: might not know what's important to go to. It's not
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  Speaker 1: the easiest place to get around. This year, it was
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  Speaker 1: also extremely hot, so whereas in other years you could
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  Speaker 1: just walk from event to event, it was actually unsafe
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  Speaker 1: in some ways to walk across town because it was
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  Speaker 1: so hot, like you had literally had to stay hydrated
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  Speaker 1: and stay cool. So I know it can be overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: for people, but I think the secret is, well not
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  Speaker 1: the secret, but like the point is that you have
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  Speaker 1: to have a plan. You have to really sit with
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  Speaker 1: what events are actually going to serve me for what
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  Speaker 1: I do in business. It's not a place to go party,
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  Speaker 1: although there are parties. It's not a place to just
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  Speaker 1: go be seen, although it is a scene. It's really
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  Speaker 1: a place to connect and you're getting the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: have FaceTime and organic interactions with people that are there
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  Speaker 1: not only to connect with you but to connect with
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  Speaker 1: other executives and corporate types, but who want to hear
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  Speaker 1: about what's next, who want to get ideas for how
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  Speaker 1: to properly market whatever business they're in, or how to
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  Speaker 1: connect with other creators and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: So you really have to have a plan. You need
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  Speaker 1: to follow up with the people that you meet there. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it can feel very insulated and gatekeeping because it is
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  Speaker 1: it's a conference in the south of France. It's not
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  Speaker 1: meant for everybody to be there, and it is a
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  Speaker 1: very strategic visit for the brands that are there. They're
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  Speaker 1: not playing around, So I get a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: would feel like they're on the outside. But my advice
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  Speaker 1: to them would be take that feeling and figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to shift to being on the inside. Like if
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  Speaker 1: you were there, you were already a step ahead or
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  Speaker 1: not a step ahead, but you're already in a place
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  Speaker 1: that most people will never go in their lives and
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  Speaker 1: most creators will not have access to. So to get
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  Speaker 1: the benefit from it, you have to have a plan,
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  Speaker 1: and you have to be flexible, and you have to
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  Speaker 1: not take things personally. Oprah was there, Oprah is there
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  Speaker 1: moving around like there's there's a huge gap between like
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  Speaker 1: a new creator and Oprah obviously, and like you could
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  Speaker 1: actually be in the same room, but if you're not
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  Speaker 1: in the same room, like maybe it's because Oprah is there.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that I get the perspectives of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people. It is definitely a place that could
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  Speaker 1: trigger and foster syndrome. But I would say, as somebody
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  Speaker 1: who mostly feels like imposter syndrome and have dealt with it,
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  Speaker 1: did points mostly does not absolutely nothing to serve you.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that.
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  Speaker 1: In this business, in any creative business, it is a
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  Speaker 1: constant grind. You can go to people who have been
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  Speaker 1: in the business for decades who are telling you that
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  Speaker 1: they're still having to find new ways to be creative.
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  Speaker 1: So making it looks different for everybody. It comes and
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  Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, and one year you could be the
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  Speaker 1: hottest thing and the next year you got to ask
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  Speaker 1: for invites to things. And that's that's the part of
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  Speaker 1: this business that can be exhausting, but it's also what
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  Speaker 1: this business is. So I think a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just are figuring out how to navigate that space,
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  Speaker 1: and I do get it. I had my own feelings
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  Speaker 1: about being there, but I felt like it was very
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  Speaker 1: beneficial for me. I got a lot of business done
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  Speaker 1: and it was very useful. But it is it is
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  Speaker 1: a business trip. It can be overwhelming. It is a
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  Speaker 1: gatekeeping place. It's a very hard place to get to,
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  Speaker 1: and there are big names and big decision makers there,
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  Speaker 1: and the best way to benefit from it is to
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  Speaker 1: work proactively, to pitch and talk about what you have
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  Speaker 1: going on. And if you don't have something going on,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not a good time to go to can
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  Speaker 1: cause although unless you're going there to absorb information and
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  Speaker 1: to get new ideas, if you're there to connect with people,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have anything to connect about, then it's
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  Speaker 1: probably not a useful trip. But yeah, I mean also,
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  Speaker 1: eating alone is a treat, right eating alone, I can listen,
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  Speaker 1: I guess because I've.
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  Speaker 2: Done it before.
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  Speaker 1: I did not feel like the pressure to do everything,
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  Speaker 1: Like I had the things lined out that I knew.
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  Speaker 1: I was absolutely going to do the things that I
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  Speaker 1: had to do. I had a panel there and had
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  Speaker 1: a creator event. But I also like know the importance
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  Speaker 1: of refueling. And I don't know if I have like
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  Speaker 1: an anxiety disorder or some other kind of thing, but
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  Speaker 1: I am someone that gets extremely overstimulated. And I get
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  Speaker 1: very overwhelmed after I've talked to a certain number of people.
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  Speaker 1: And if I know, I'm going into a space where
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  Speaker 1: I have to be not only super social, but super on,
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  Speaker 1: which is what can is because you're talking to like
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  Speaker 1: very important people the entire time. Everyone you meet there,
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  Speaker 1: every interaction you have is important, and so you're coming
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  Speaker 1: with like your best stuff. I need to just like
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  Speaker 1: lay in silence, like darkness, like a vampire.
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  Speaker 2: I literally lay like this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like take a shower because I've been sweating all day.
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  Speaker 1: Lay like this in silence and with the AC blasting,
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  Speaker 1: and like not talk for a few hours.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I have to do that. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that means.
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  Speaker 3: But no being on for that many Yeah, And I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if you've never done it before, you just
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  Speaker 3: you're you're just navigating it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's not Coachella, it's not right, it's not
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  Speaker 1: even south By Southwest. It's it's a very very specific
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  Speaker 1: place with a very specific experience and agenda. And as
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  Speaker 1: it grows and more people attends, I think you just
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  Speaker 1: have to learn what how to make.
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  Speaker 2: It work for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, when you were there.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was outside a little bits. You know. That's a
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  Speaker 3: lot for you, that's a lot for me. I was tired.
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  Speaker 3: Sure I reinjured my nerve? Oh no, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it was a little spind that move I was
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  Speaker 3: doing when Miami came on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I did do a lot of dancing.
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  Speaker 1: Those videos are coming to after camera's over. I did
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  Speaker 1: do a little partying on the back ends as is needed.
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  Speaker 2: Content. Yeah, Aftes was amazing too. Shout out to afteys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that looked fine.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best party. It's the best party.
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  Speaker 3: I love Foma watching those pictures. But did you watch
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  Speaker 3: the Wars last night? Beat Worth?
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  Speaker 2: I did see.
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  Speaker 1: I was flying back from France, but I did see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the recaps and the the videos and
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  Speaker 1: the tribute.
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  Speaker 2: Love lizz O being a part of the Lauren Hill tribute.
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  Speaker 2: She killed it. I love I love Lauren Hill.
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  Speaker 1: I think The Miseducation of Lauren Hill's one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest albums of all time, and it's great to just
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  Speaker 1: see her there. I've always wanted to see Laurence Hill live,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not waiting four hours. So if there's a
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  Speaker 1: situation where I know I'm going to see her, I
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  Speaker 1: would definitely go. But I loved seeing it. It was
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  Speaker 1: it was incredible and there were so many great moments
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  Speaker 1: and the fashions, honey.
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  Speaker 3: The looks were eating.
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  Speaker 2: The looks were so good.
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  Speaker 3: They were eating Madison Ryan, who I missed last night,
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  Speaker 3: but you just showed me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm feels amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I loved her for Thames Thames Time Look for Time.
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  Speaker 2: This year, Tianna has been killing it. Yeah she has.
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  Speaker 2: She's looked incredible and.
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  Speaker 3: I really liked that she got the bt Icon of
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  Speaker 3: the Year award. Yes, well deserved missus janets listen. I
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  Speaker 3: was teary eyed watching everyone was crying in there. That
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  Speaker 3: was such a like a real genuine moment to see.
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  Speaker 3: She was so excited. And she said something in her speech.
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  Speaker 3: She said she wondered if she should feel uncomfortable saying
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  Speaker 3: the title out loud Icon of the Year, and then
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  Speaker 3: she was like, no, I worked my ass off for
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  Speaker 3: twenty years for this, Like I deserve this. This is
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  Speaker 3: my moment. You've been in your business for about twenty years,
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  Speaker 3: very very many phases from a young age, So do
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  Speaker 3: you ever feel like it gets to that point where
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  Speaker 3: you question, like, am I deserving of these accolades or
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  Speaker 3: my accomplishments? Did I need to work a little harder?
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  Speaker 3: How does it feel when you've been doing something for
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  Speaker 3: that long.
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  Speaker 1: I do understand what she's saying, because you can feel
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  Speaker 1: maybe like you have more to accomplish, or you can
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  Speaker 1: feel like you know, you're on stage with Janet Jackson
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  Speaker 1: and this is an absolute icon who's giving you award,
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  Speaker 1: and you.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe feel undeserving in some ways.
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  Speaker 1: But I like that she rebuked that feeling because I
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  Speaker 1: think that little monster exists in the back of any
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  Speaker 1: aspirational person's brain that they're not doing enough, that they
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  Speaker 1: haven't accomplished enough, that if they take a moment to
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  Speaker 1: be in the moment to accept an award, to accept
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  Speaker 1: a title, to be proud of something they've accomplished, that
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  Speaker 1: they're somehow letting go of the drive to do more,
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  Speaker 1: or that you know they're confused. They got confused with
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  Speaker 1: somebody else who has done way more than them.
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  Speaker 2: So I do understand the juxtaposition of those two feelings.
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  Speaker 1: I've made it a point at certain times in my
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  Speaker 1: career to be very present. For example, the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: in Miami was a week that I you know, super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl is kind of in some ways similar to Can
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  Speaker 1: that it's just absolute, NonStop morning tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you were with me in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane, the amount of things that are going on,
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  Speaker 1: the places that you have to be, the work that
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  Speaker 1: you have to do if you're in the business.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't want to just rush through it. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to just work through it.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be really present and absorb the experience
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  Speaker 1: because it was something that I had worked really hard for.
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  Speaker 1: But it was also a for full circle moment. I
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  Speaker 1: started my career in Miami. I went to school in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: I'm now on South Beach, the same strip that I
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  Speaker 1: used to go and party every night in college. I'm
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  Speaker 1: now doing the show on this incredible set with Colin.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're here for the super Bowl, covering the
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I get to have my brother on my show.
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  Speaker 1: It was a really huge week for me, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that I lived presently in it because it's such
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  Speaker 1: a core memory for my career now. And There's been
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  Speaker 1: a couple moments throughout my career that I've been consciously
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  Speaker 1: very very present for and it's reminded me that like
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  Speaker 1: you can enjoy your hard work, it doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: you're taking your foot off the gas.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that you're, you know, accepting this as
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  Speaker 2: the peak.
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  Speaker 1: And it also doesn't mean, on the flip side, that
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  Speaker 1: you're undeserving or that there's someone else that should be there.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of that constant like balance that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I hate the word humble, but I think it's fear
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  Speaker 1: more than being humble, and like that kind of looms
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  Speaker 1: over both of those experiences of feeling like you're undeserving
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  Speaker 1: and then also feeling like if I do accept that
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  Speaker 1: I deserve this, I'm letting go of some of my juice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm letting the chip on my shoulder get smaller. So
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely understand what she's talking about. And she's unbelievably deserving.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: She's been absolutely killing it for years, but she's really
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: having her moment right now with all the success that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: she's experienced in every avenue of everything that she's doing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm happy for her.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: She's absolutely deserving of that award, and I'm glad that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: she got that moment with Janet as well, because you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: know it's it's not a mistake that or it wasn't unintentional.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I should say that Janet was the one to give
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: her that award because Janet is such a multi dimensional talent.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Movies, fashion, television, music, dance.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Like she's just a creative innovator, and that's so much
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: of what Tiana is as well.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So I love that moment. I thought it was great.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: It was amazing before can BT. You went to the
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: White House.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I did, Michael. Oh, we didn't do any of our
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: bts from the White House.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Oh we gotta post that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was in can like I did not
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: No way, I was getting to that. I will do
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that this week. Oh my god.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I'm forgetting to post something. Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: we have so much content from the behind this. Yeah,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I forgot about I forgot about that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: We gotta post it. We can still post it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It's fine, I'll post it today. It'll be out of order.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I also have to I have to re order your grid.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I can't I've done that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: If you do all that, I need to give you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: access to my my page. But so like you can
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: tell me what to do with it. With the reordering,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I have to divorce myself of the anxiety of posting
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: things out of chronological order.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to. Just I'm so like, oh my god.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But then everyone's gonna think I'm back from France, like
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I am back from France. I have not gotten through
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: all my France content, right, So I'm gonna have to.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Work on that. But yeah, I'll do the I'll do
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the BTS the White House today. But that was great.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It was so fun to be back with Michael Well.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I loved the discussion you guys had about men having
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: female friends in you saying that it's a green flag.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Have you had experiences with men where they didn't have
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: any female friends or was it just that they could
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: not they were incapable of having non sexual relationships with
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: these women.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So I've had a variety of different experiences with men. Again,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine years old. I've been married, I've been engaged.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I've dated men with kids.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I have dated young men when I was young who
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: were broke.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I've dated older men when I was young who were
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: wealthy and like, if you're keeping count, good for you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: But I've had a lot of different experiences with men
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of different things as well
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: with family with girlfriends. Like I'm pretty well versed in
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: what can happen and both positively and negatively within relationships,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So I did not come to this conclusion lightly.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't always feel this way.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I've been burned by people who men who've said that
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: someone was their friend who wasn't their friend. I've known
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: women who have said that men of their friends and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they were not the men were not really their friends.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen men wait as friends and be and then
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: they turned out to be in a relationship.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen it all.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: The core of this conversation, which I've had several times
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: on too personal, and it trends every time I talk
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: about it. The core of it is is this, at
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: this point in my life, the person that I am,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the industry in which I work, the experiences that I've had,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the goals that I have for myself both personally professionally.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I have collected an incredible variety.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Of people in my life. And if you're in my
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: life at this point, you have been extremely vetted and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you're someone that I trust very dearly because I don't
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: fuck with people, and I fuck with people less older,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I get, and I fuck with people less after the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: experiences that I've had as well, which should be obvious
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to anyone, I think that men, if I'm going to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: date a man, they sort of have to be on
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: my level as far as life experiences, Like I wouldn't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: do well with a very naive person or someone who
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: just hasn't traveled a lot. It's not that I would
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: like eliminate that person from contention, but I think it
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: would be hard for them to relate to me and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: relate to how I live my life. So someone who
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: has a variety of different people in their lives, having
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: a woman as a friend to me is important simply
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: because I want to know that you, independent of me,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you view women as valuable outside of sex. You like
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: talking to them, You're interested in how they think. You
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: want to support them professionally personally. You have them in
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: your life, in your space, and they're safe around you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Those things are important to me as values in a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: man that I want to date, because I am ferocious
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: about women, and I'm ferocious about how I'm treated as
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a woman, and I'm ferocious about the man I'm being with.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: To see me as multifaceted beyond sex as well, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: in my experience, men who have no women in their lives.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: That are friends.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And the reason I specifically say friends is you're not
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: gonna fuck your sister or your mother, or your grandmother
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: or your aunt or your cousin, right, So family doesn't count. Yes,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it's important you have relationships with those people, but you're
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: never gonna fuck them. So you don't have this like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: choice that, oh, I find this person attractive or I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: think they're a woman that is available, but I'm choosing
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to have self control or I just naturally have self
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: control to not want to fuck every woman around me.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: So family doesn't count. And your girlfriends can also be
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: your friends, but you're fucking her, so it eliminates the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: whole point of being around a woman and not sleeping
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: with her and feeling safe, her feeling safe with you,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: You feeling vulnerable, you getting information that is unbiased. Your
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: family is going to have a certain feeling about you,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: so the feedback you get from them may be useful
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and helpful, but it's still not coming from an independent source.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: To me, that's important.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: People boil it down to a lot of different things,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and they've had a li lot of trauma in these situations,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: which I get, which is why you should do exactly
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: what the fuck you want to do with your life.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is what I want to do
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: with my life. You do what the fuck you want
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to do with your life. And if you feel like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I don't give a fuck. I'm still not
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: gonna do what you do, and you shouldn't do what
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I do in it that. It really just comes down
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to that for.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, I've had some trauma, so I'm glad that
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you have.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what's your trauma.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Listen the amount of sisters that men have had and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I'll meet their whole family and I'm like, why didn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: meet this sister though? So?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Who is she?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: When was she born? Where's she pop up?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't call my male friends bro. I might
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: say this person is like a brother, right, but I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: will I don't call them bro for this exact reason,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: because there's like this thing where it's like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's your bro. Like I have brothers, yeah, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I have men in my life that are like brothers
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to me, but I'm not calling them that. They're they're
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: they're oh that's bro.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: That's this like yeah, I'm no, yeah, I cap I
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: get cap.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I know they're I get the I get the trauma
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: behind that, and I get the trauma that a lot
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of people have behind this. Like I've experienced the same thing.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I've I've been with men who have a female friend
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, that bitch is not your fucking friends.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: She is not friends to anyone, and like, not for nothing,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you're not her friends. This is not that's not what
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that's that is like you, that's a different thing. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I get that, and I've experienced that, and listen, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: have had I have been cheated on so many creative ways.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Like we should make a we should make you know
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: what we should do? No, we shouldn't do this, but
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: it would be funny to do.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: We used to do the the tournament, the oh my god,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the bracket of stuff. When I was in sports radio,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: we did bracket of stuff. So like a one seed
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: would be like porn or a Sunday ticket, a six
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: seed might be like chicken wings, and like it's just
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you just eliminate it. We would vote on it online
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and like get down to like, you know, what's the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: best what's the best thing? Yeah, porn would usually get
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: down to final four. Well, I mean a lot of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: people like porn, ye.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: A lot, but well they might both porn.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I mean like, yeah, you have to understand eliminated specs.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Eliminated specs like fuck porn, fuck pord.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I don't need porn.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: It would be a tough choice between for me, between
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: porn and chicken wings.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: It's so many, there are a lot of flavors. There's
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of options in the porn.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Space too, though you can well it's o f can
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: you just replace it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: With no porn.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Porn's gone all of it, the entire category. But what
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I was saying is we could do a bracket of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: getting cheated on.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: In a different way.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: We have to do it different ways and see with
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: But like you're voting for, like I guess the worst,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it have to.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Be the verse the worst, right, Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Anyway, The point is I get I get the anxiety.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I get why people are like, I've been burned by this.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want a man that has female friends. I'm
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: his friend. I don't want a girl that has male friends.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want my girl around men.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Cool, that's your life.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You should do that if you want to me personally,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I have found that men who I have had experiences
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: with who do not have any any female friends, do
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: not see women as complete humans. They cheat more because
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: any woman around them who isn't related to them or
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is their girl is for hunting. And they don't treat
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: women well because they have they're under no obligation other
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: than their family or their girl to have any positive
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: interaction with women.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And I don't like that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: That's not all I'm not saying all men do that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that don't have female friends. I'm saying that that's been
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: my experience and that's not what I want. And I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: also am not giving up the people in my life,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm in the past, I've been with men
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: who are extremely insecure, who are like, I don't want
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you to have any male friends, and you've got to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: cut off all your male friends and it was stupid
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and they cheat on me with everyone, So like the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: fuck was the point of that? Like I just so,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I just gave up people that I loved dearly, who
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: had been in my life and supported me. And I've
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: never slept with that for what for a man that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't walk down the street without falling in some pussy
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and and the other point is that people always make
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: with this. Well, there's a couple points. One, people are
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: always saying like, well, male friends are just waiting for
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you to be single, No, I'm single a lot like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: shoot your shot, okay, and they don't and they're aware.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Two they're like, if you called them and ask them
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to sleep with you, they would say yes.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And I can tell you the men that I call
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: my friends that I'm like, no, this is a friend
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: would not do that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: They would think about it just being a man. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: feel like they the thought would cross their mind and
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: then they'd be like, but are you okay?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Are you okay? I think they would be like are
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you okay? Like I I believe that they.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Would be like, huh, that's interesting, but why are you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: asking me this? Their response wouldn't be oh, okay, I'm
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: on the way. Their response would be like why are
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you saying this? Like okay, but why are you saying this?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not just gonna come over and fuck you.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: You clearly have lost your mind or you're drunk, or
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: there's something else going on. So I'm gonna ask those
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: questions first. Right, you can say whatever you want that
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: that's my delusion. I'm also not calling these men and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: telling them that I want to find so that we'll
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: never find out, because that's not the point of me
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: having I don't need to call someone my friend to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: have them in my life.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Which is what? Which is? I think the thing you
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: guys are skipping here.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: If a man is only trying to sleep with me,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I know that I am more than aware as a
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: woman of how to navigate being around people that want
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to fuck me.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I don't need your help got it down.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So if I can smell from a mile away, if
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a man is only in that space because he's trying
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to fuck with me, they're not good enough at it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: You guys are not good enough at pretending. It's so
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: very fucking obvious people that are that that's not their goal.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It's not their goal. And I don't need to pretend
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to be someone's friend either how to fuck them.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I would just do that. Oh, like I'm just his friend?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: The funk out of her? Now, what do I look like?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I want to read you some of the comments. I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: screenshot of some of the comments from from the post
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: that I think really sum up what we're talking about here.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: If I can get through my content. Okay, actually respect.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on this too. As a man,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: do you have a mic? Okay, yeah, I don't think
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I can hear you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh what do?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read it how they wrote it to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: because English be kicking a motherfucking ass boy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: What do a man.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Benefit from having a platonic female friend? Now, before you answer, spects,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: this is my point. What does a man benefit from
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: having a platonic female friend? Well, if this is how
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you think, this is the exact type of person I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: don't want around me because literally, what you're saying is
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: there is no benefit to a woman being in your
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: life other than you fucking them or them being your family.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: You're saying the exact point that I'm making.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: You don't see women as valuable unless they are your
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: family or you're they're your girl, and you're fucking them.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: That's it. That is my point.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Why is that a kind of man that I would
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: want anywhere near me on a daily basis?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Specs?
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Uh, No, I think you're right. I mean I think
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: that men that have women friends learn how to respect
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: women like the right way, like a more fully rounded way,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: not just outside of a oh no means no type
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: of way. It's like more of an understanding in terms
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: of like their experience. And I have a very close
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: women friend, and a lot of the things that I
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: thought I was not guilty of, it just helped me
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: understand the world more so, Like I think that being
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: close with her helped me understand women a little bit more. Right,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: So I think that and and a multitude of ways, honestly, right, Like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: do I feel like I got like a little bit
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: more game, Like yeah, sure, like you know what I mean,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Like it's I'm not I don't want to. I don't
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: necessarily say like operating around women it's made it easier,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: because I don't want the word easy to kind of
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: like lose its connotation. But what I say is that
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: it made it more comfortable to like understand like where
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: great areas and like you know, like how to operate
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: more uh, in a more supportive type of way.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And I also think when you have friends from the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: opposite sex, there are very clear boundaries that you have
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to have.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: That create a level of respect that like in.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: The way that you would treat someone that is your family,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: but also treating someone to make them feel comfortable. So
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: this is the other really good one. She want male
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: friends because she want male friends. No thanks, I need
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a woman with no males around and doesn't need validation
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: attention from any men but the ones she loves.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And then he says a bunch of is true love alive,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is true love dead? Enigma star gods?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: So whatever that means, having male friends does not equate
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: to male attention. First of all, fuck male attention. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: promise you every beautiful woman wants less male attention. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the idea of male attention is because you guys want
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: male attention. You want attention from men. Attention for men
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: is so fucking easy to get, I promise you on
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: God is the easiest thing in the world. Women do
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: not give a fuck about male attention. The women who
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: do things for male attention are so fucking obvious, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: women women do not fuck with women who do things
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: for male attention because it's so fucking easy to get.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: It is like the most obvious pathetic thing that you
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: can you can do. It's such an easy thing to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: tap into. So having male friends is not about having
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: attention from men.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Again, why is that? Why do you need to have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a male friend to get attention from men. It's just
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: so weird. She just be talking. I do be talking,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Joy Taylor talks, Babe, I do be talking. That's what
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the fuck I do.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Her friends would fuck her, guaranteed. We already went over that,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and then I will never tay to man with tons
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of female friends. I didn't say tons of female friends.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Tons is I didn't say tons, although that doesn't matter anyway.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't say tons. I said has female friends. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: didn't say tons. It's a big difference. They resent you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: for getting in between them and their emotional vibrator by
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: their time, and strike with a vengeance when the relationship ends,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: co signing all his bullshit to strengthen their own bond
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and make up for the time they lost to you.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: No, never again.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I want a man's man, a man with kind male
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: friends who see women as human beings and hold each
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: other accountable to honorable behavior and values. The man I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: have now, Well, I don't know where you bluck that
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: man from, but yeah, this is trauma, and I understand.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Like that person was an op and you should feel
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: exactly how you feel about it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: That was not a friend. That was an op.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I can tell you with one hundred percent
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: not only confidence but experience that if my male friends
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: do some fucked up shit, I'm the first motherfucker to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: tell them that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: He ain't no willow room around here.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: You're a real friend.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'm a real friend, and I'm barely fuck with them
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to begin with men.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, I don't even like them breathe around me.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't think we shooting all out.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm I'll be damned if you do some fucked up
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: shit to a woman. Not anything criminal, obviously, but like
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: if you're playing around or you're being dishonest and I'm
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and you're just gonna tell me about it, and I'm
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, whatever, like she deserved that. Da
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: da da da bitch, Get the fuck out of here.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: That's an emotional vibrator. Yeah, that's trauma, and babe, it
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: sounds like you've been through it, so I'm not mad
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: at it. But that's not all men, and that's not
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: all women friends, because it certainly ain't me. My malefairs
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: will tell you in a fucking second, they'd be sick
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: of my ass if a woman is not my family
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: or my girl, she better be one hell of her
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: friend or it's pointless.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: See they have no social skill.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Here's women aren't good friends. There's my point. Stop listening
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to women.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Women know they talk for the sake of talking.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, y'all have a motherfucking podcast.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Don't take any relationship but relationships advice.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: From women again the English language.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just people really need to start reading.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Don't take any relationships advice from women. Yeah, you're right,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you should take all your relationship advice from men, because
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that's who you.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Want to be in a relationship with. Is men people
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: be gay?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyway, Yeah, this conversation, it could go on
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and on and on, but the point is is I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: get everyone's trauma. I get why it's such a hot
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: topic for people to discuss, and I think people think
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I'm making it up. But the other thing everyone was
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: mad about was that I date really good people. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the tea is, you don't know who I date. You
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: don't know anything. Everything you think you know, you don't know.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I say things with confidence when
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I say them because I know the truth.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Some other people know the truth. You know the truth.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Do I date good people. Yeah, exactly. Do I date
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: men that have female friends. Are they kind people? Yes?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So are they successful?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: So that's the point. I don't really want.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: To tussle with you guys about whether these people exist
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: or not. What exists in your world doesn't exist in
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: everyone's world.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: And I have been to the other side.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I've been the girl that listened to the man who said,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: don't have any men around you, and the reason that
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he wanted that is because he could not be around
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: women without fucking them.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: And that's not the only one. That's a multiple time experience.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I've been the girl who was like, oh, this is
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: your friend, and she doesn't really seem like a friend,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and she wasn't a friend. So I've dealt with that too.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I have hardlined things many times throughout my life and
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: then realize that they were a mistake. I'm not encouraging
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you to date a man that has female friends if
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you don't feel comfortable with that. I'm not encouraging you
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to date a woman that has male friends if you
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with that. What I am encouraging you
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to do is shut the fuck up telling me what
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to do with my life and time. Because I didn't
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: come to this conclusion by accidents. I didn't give this
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: hot take. I'm not giving a hot take to serve
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the internet. I've said this many times and I will
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: continue to say it. And Also, I don't want the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: same things that Joe want. I want different things. And
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I have a full life. And I'm really, really, really
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: grateful for the men in my life who are my friends.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the way that they support me. I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: grateful for the way they ground me. I'm grateful for
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the way that they remind me that I'm not always right,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: although it is rare.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I'm grateful for the way that they've had my.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Back, the way that they have supported me professionally, the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: way that they have spoke me up in rooms that
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't been in, the way that they've protected me,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the way that they've been there for me when I've
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: been in physical harm or physically unsafe. I can go
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: on and on, and I have deep, loving, incredible relationships
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: with women in my life. My friendships with women are
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the cornerstone, like the backbone, of so much.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Of what I do.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But I truly believe that our two sexes treating each
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: other with respect and understanding, particularly starting with men, because
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: as we know statistically, men are performing most of the violence,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: most of the violence against women a woman's The most
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: unsafe place for a woman is in her own home.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: She is more likely to be killed by her partner
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: than by a stranger, and go on and on and on. So,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, a thing that would benefit society as
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: a whole, and a thing that would benefit men, and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a thing that would benefits women's safety, and a thing
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that would benefit and fill people's lives more is to
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: see everyone as an equal human being and even though
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: we are different, that we can share with each other
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: in a way that is.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Respectful and full.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And no, not everybody is your friend, and no, not
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: everybody is there for the right reasons. And yes, there
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: are predatorial men who will pretend to be friends with
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you so that they can get into your space and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: just try to wait it out so that they can
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: have sex with you. And yes, there are predatorial women
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: who pretend to be friends with men, and are as
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: she said, emotional vibrators. Everyone is not the same, and
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: everyone doesn't have good intentions. It's on you, as an
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: adult to gather from your experiences the people that are
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and even still, even when you think you know enough,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: there are still people who can be parasites and lie
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to you and manipulate, and their whole purpose in your
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: life is to take and destroy you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I'm very very verse in those experiences as well.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: However, in my quest in life to not become a
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: bitter person, I have found that working on an individual
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: basis with people, whether they are men or women, can
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: really benefit and give you a full life. And that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: is my non internet y take on male friendships. But
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: you should do what the fuck you want, right, All right,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: let's get to never too personal?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Is that how we had ye?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the show
• 44:55
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• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But follow us on all of our platforms. What are
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: some of the best moments of your life? And why
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: this is a This is an interesting question.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: To me at this point in my life because I'm
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: turning forty in January, and so whenever I get to
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a new decade, I have a lot of reflection on things.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Like when I was nineteen, I was dealing with a
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: lot from my childhood. It was kind of like everything
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that happened to me just kind of exploded at once,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and I made a lot of really interesting decisions as
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a young person in processing all that trauma and processing
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: independence and becoming an adult.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: At twenty nine, I mean, my.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Entire world changed. I moved to Los Angeles, I got married.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, everything in my life was different. It was
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: kind of very similar to nineteen in a you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: in the very ferocious life change way. And then now
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: at thirty nine, I'm reflecting back on a complicated decade.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Where I grew and changed a lot and.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Formed formed a lot of relationships, lost a lot of relationships, broken,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: broke off a lot of relationships. And I'm also going
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: through a real shift away from any kind of religion
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and kind of leaning more into what my purpose is.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm very I'm actually excited about being in my forties.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but great things from women about being forty.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: My body is changing a lot.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: So I am reflecting on this question of like, what
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: are the best moments of my life and why? And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously being with my family is something that
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: comes to mind first and foremost.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Like I've been really grateful over the past.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Couple of years, but I've got to spend a lot
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: more time with my family than I have over the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: past twenty years. Being in Miami, so I was away
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: from everyone who was in Pittsburgh, and you know, being
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: away from everyone who was in Pittsburgh and now being
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: in la I've been away from everyone for the past
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: ten years. So over the last couple of years, I've
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: got to travel and spend a lot more time with
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: my family. And that's been really special to me because
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I've lived away for so long, and.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: That's really important.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I have some career moments that are really special,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: but I think, like when I think about what real
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: peace is outside of the obvious like career and family,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's really when I have the opportunity to
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: have new experiences.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Like Part of the reason why I like to travel
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Is because so much of our life is on screens now,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and so much of our life is programmed and scheduled,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and so much of what we see in the US.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Although I do enjoy traveling around the US as well,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: so much of what we see in our everyday lives
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: is repetitive, and when you travel, when you get to
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: see new places, it just expands your brain. It opens
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you up to the idea that there are different things
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: in the world, that there are different ways to live,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that there are different ways to be happy, that there
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: are different ways to worship, there are different ways to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: spend money, there's different ways to spend your life. When
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you run into people who are not just completely programmed
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: by consumerism.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Which by the way, I am, and they feel like
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: they're just living in a different universe.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: They go to their job, they enjoy their job, they
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: come home in a normal time, spend time with their family,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: kick it in the town square, like they're not worried
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: about how they're going to buy their fifteenth Louis Vuitton.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: It's a really eye opening and like soul opening and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: intelligence opening experience. So when I think about the best
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: moments obviously under my family and what I've been able
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to do in my career, I whenever I get to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: experience somewhere new, it's always.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Very special to me. Or whenever I get to.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Go back to somewhere that I don't get to go
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: too often and experience a place for the second or
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: third time, like somewhere like Rome, and I just get
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: to walk around and I don't feel like I'm missing
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: anything because I didn't see any of the like you know,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: big monuments or anything. And I get to like just
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: really experience a city or a new place that's that's
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: really special to me. And it's something that I don't
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: take for granted because travel is expensive and it's hard
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to get time off, and it's hard to get to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: some of these places and sometimes when you go, you
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: don't even get to experience them properly. So, yeah, like
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: going to Iceland and seeing the northern lights in the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night with
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: two of my best friends in a snowsuit, you know,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like that is a once you know, maybe a once
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: in a lifetime experience and something I could never have
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: imagined doing really when I was, you know, a thirteen
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: year old kid in Pittsburgh just trying to survive. Like
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: those those are not things that you necessarily get to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: dream of. And then to be able to do those
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: things and go to you know, I think I'm at
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: twenty eight different countries now, that to me is like
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: is a really cool experience and something I'm really grateful for,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and it's like a formative part of who I am
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: so when I think at the best moments, I would
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: say it's those three things. It's my family, the things
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I've been able to accomplish in my career, and being
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: able to see as much of the world that I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: have already been able to see and we'll hopefully be
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: able to see more.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: That's never too personal.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the show,
• 51:23
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• 51:30
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• 51:36
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• 51:38
  Speaker 1: you next time.