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- 0:07Welcome to Evolving with Elle, where a capable woman recognizes what she's managing, understands
- 0:17the responsibilities that she's carrying, and chooses self-honoring over self-abandonment,
- 0:25and decides to continue, change, or release.
- 0:30I am Elle. I bring the mirror, the map, and the method. You choose how you show up in a way that honors your capacity.
- 0:41So let's lean in, learn, and evolve together.
- 0:47We are here with Kristine Goad today. She is one of the other founding members of the Inspired Speaker Podcast Network.
- 0:59And her podcast is called Surfing Your Edge, and I so wanted to have her here because you know that
- 1:09we talk about the different roles that we have as people, the responsibilities and relationships
- 1:18attached to those roles, and then those sneaky rigid rules that kind of get embedded with the
- 1:25responsibilities, i.e. expectations. So without further ado, we are going to bring Kristine on and let her say hello.
- 1:40Hello. I'm really happy to be here with you, Elle Jaye.
- 1:44Thank you so much, Kristine. And you can just call me Elle. That works for me. And can you share
- 1:55one of the roles that you are most proud of? And then just share about yourself as well.
- 2:08One of the roles that I'm most proud of, I would have to say it's my current professional role.
- 2:18I'm the Surfing Your Edge coach, as you've already said. And I really like who I'm becoming in that role.
- 2:28I like the support I'm able to lend people who need it or want it. I don't know if they actually
- 2:39need it, but they want it. And I'm just, it's the role that's letting me grow the fastest and the most.
- 2:49That is awesome. So what got you into Surfing Your Edge? Why that? And what does that even mean?
- 2:59That's a good question. Two good questions. Basically, it took me, let's see, I graduated
- 3:08with my master's in 95 and started my Surfing Your Edge business, which wasn't called the
- 3:15Surfing Your Edge business, back in 2015. So in between there, I was trying to find myself,
- 3:24and I did all kinds of crazy things, including a cross-country bike trip where I thought the
- 3:29universe would just whisper in my ear where I should be in the world and what I should be doing.
- 3:36They would tell me what box I belonged in that would use all of my passions and interests and
- 3:41all of that. And I didn't hear the universe whisper that in my ear.
- 3:45And so I had to continue feeling my way along. For the 10 years before I started my business,
- 3:55I was supporting a very talented artist and children's book author and publisher.
- 4:02And I was running the business backend of her artistic company and helping her bring
- 4:10her visions into the world, doing things that she hadn't done before. So I would figure out the how
- 4:16to help her get things into the world. And I loved that. I grew a lot. I learned a lot.
- 4:24But I also felt that there were more people in the world who could use that kind of support,
- 4:31who could use someone to help them hold the vision and figure out the steps along the way.
- 4:36And when my husband changed jobs and we had to move to different states,
- 4:45that seemed like the right time for me to take the leap and actually step into becoming a coach.
- 4:54Surfing your edge is a phrase that I've used for a while. And basically it means, for me, it means
- 5:02being out on the edge of your comfort zone and staying out there a little bit longer than you
- 5:07probably want to so that the comfort zone actually expands and you get comfortable doing things that
- 5:14you weren't before. In my podcast, I refer to it as the place where fear and possibility meet.
- 5:23It's the place where reality and possibility meet. So yeah, that's the phrase that I'm living into.
- 5:34And I thank you for sharing your life journey and explaining what surfing your edge means.
- 5:43Because I love how you were what I would call you did some expectancy work, right? You took that
- 5:54chance and said, hey, let me try this. And I expect the universe to let me know what I'm
- 6:00supposed to do. What's the box? And then you did it. And then you waited to see what was happening.
- 6:05And then you're like, oh, no, that's not it. So and you learn from that. And then you kept living
- 6:11and you've been doing that work of experimenting, playing, allowing, choosing. You continue to make
- 6:26choices. And in surfing your edge, you're like, hey, I'm going to make this choice.
- 6:33Certainly, it's at the edge of my comfort zone. But it's going to stretch me. It's going to expand
- 6:42my comfort zone. And I love that vision of surfing your edge to expand your comfort zone in a way
- 6:51that is, it sounds like it's in a way that's not overwhelming. It fits you. It fits the person for
- 6:59the moment. And you are supporting yourself and others, because it also sounds like you are not
- 7:09only doing it by yourself, but you're also doing it in community. Is that also accurate?
- 7:14With my clients? Yeah.
- 7:16Okay. Because and that's still community. Because with your clients, what I learned is
- 7:24that's kind of like this built in community. Because as the coach, a lot of people may look
- 7:30at us like, oh, you're the expert, you've already arrived. And what you're saying is no,
- 7:35I haven't arrived yet. And I am continuing to go like as you are expanding your comfort zone,
- 7:46you continue to expand it. Yeah. So with that, your clients and partnerships and collaborations
- 7:56that you have support you in continuing to surf that edge and expand your comfort zone.
- 8:03Is that pretty accurate? Absolutely. When I created what I'm
- 8:08calling the surfing your edge experience, which is my flagship program, that was me
- 8:16deciding that I wanted to do the thing that scared me the most in front of other people
- 8:20and take them with me. So we go to learn to surf on this retreat, we go for eight days to Panama,
- 8:27and we take four days, we spend about 90 minutes each day learning to surf. And
- 8:36once I realized that I could be in a leadership role and vulnerable and scared,
- 8:44that's what my whole business has been built around ever since.
- 8:48Is like I'm doing the thing that scares me right alongside you doing the thing that scares you.
- 8:55And it's always changing. I'm very transparent about the experiments I run and when they
- 9:02work and when they don't and when they bring, I mean, whatever results they bring,
- 9:08I assume that's a success because I've learned something, right?
- 9:14Yes, most definitely, Kristine. And the next thing I want to touch on is that
- 9:22you mentioned fear, where fear and possibility meet and reality and possibility meet.
- 9:30I want to touch on that because a lot of times we want to be scared of fear. We want to resist
- 9:40fear and say, oh no, I'm not scared. But let's be honest. I believe that there's two types of fear.
- 9:50There's a fear that's the normal, healthy fear that helps you
- 9:57expand your comfort zone. And then there's also what I would call that debilitating, overarching,
- 10:06not yours kind of fear, i.e. a spirit of fear kind of thing. Not to be like religious or anything,
- 10:15but it's really a force, you know, that people have used to hold people captive. And that's the
- 10:25kind of fear that we've got to be discerning and vigilant about. What do you, as I share that, okay.
- 10:39I love that idea of it being almost like the space we swim in, right? The fear is out there.
- 10:53There are a lot of enforcers in the world who will try to tell you this is your lane.
- 10:59This is your box. This is what's possible for you. And sometimes they're doing it
- 11:06because they really are scared for you and they really do care and want you to be safe.
- 11:13Sometimes they're doing it because they don't want you questioning the status quo because that's not
- 11:19safe for them. It makes them either look at who they are and what they're willing to attempt,
- 11:25or it makes them feel like, you know, if you are breaking all of the rules,
- 11:31then, you know, what are rules good for, right? So, yes, I completely agree with you. There is a
- 11:39spirit of fear that we come up against that we need to learn to navigate. And there's also all
- 11:46of those fears that we've embodied that were given to us, right? And also those little voices
- 11:56in our heads that pop up and say, oh no, we want to keep you alive. You don't get to go do that
- 12:02thing. Right. And to that point, that is natural. Yes. It's actually what our brain does. Right.
- 12:15And I, you know, with so many people saying, you need to fight, you need to push through
- 12:22and don't allow, don't go into survival mode. You're not a victim. And they're speaking about it
- 12:29as if it's not a bodily system thing that we need to also respect and honor.
- 12:41Right. It's not something that we can force. It's something that we get to
- 12:48be gentle with because that's an edge for some of us. Right. Where we might actually need,
- 12:59a person might actually need a mental health professional to support them with that aspect of
- 13:07the way in which we actually work and function with the reptilian brain and all of those different
- 13:14things. Right. And then your frontal lobe and all of that, and then how it all works with the
- 13:19body. Because I had an interview the other day with Madhuri who talks about mind body and saying,
- 13:26it's one system. And then in having conversations with LaQuincy, as she was talking about,
- 13:33we were having discussions about that internal conflict as well. Right. So we get to honor
- 13:40that part of ourselves in such a way that we respect it and not fear it. We respect it and
- 13:49not try to control it as if it's an enemy of ours. Right. So in respecting how our brain actually
- 14:01works, we can talk to ourselves and honor and have that relationship with ourselves. Because
- 14:11when I talk about the roles that we have, you have shared that you are a business owner,
- 14:18you have been an employee and you're a wife. Right. So those are some of the three roles that
- 14:24you've shared so far today. Right. And in each of those roles, you have relationships.
- 14:33You have a relationship with yourself, which is where you went on the bike ride
- 14:38and you're like, Hey universe, tell me what to do. And then you were like, okay,
- 14:42now let me get in relationship and work. And then you're like, Oh, I'm supporting
- 14:49my, this artistic employer with her work. And that's how it came to you to support people with
- 14:58stepping out of their comfort zone. And then your spouse moved you guys to a different state.
- 15:03And you're like, Hey, this is how I'm going to do it. Each and every role that you were in
- 15:09impacted a choice that you made for you. Right. And there was, it sounded like there was the fear
- 15:19attached to it. And when you were speaking just now, you were like, Oh, those embodied fears.
- 15:26What I would call those is expectations, the embodied fears and the rules that you were
- 15:32speaking about earlier, I would call those expectations because they came from society,
- 15:40came from culture, came from family. And you just, as you said, embodied began to own those
- 15:47until you're like, Huh, no, that doesn't serve me. Is that accurate? You started examining those
- 15:55rules and embody fears, what I call expectations and did something with them. Is that accurate?
- 16:01That is accurate. And it's so funny because I feel like not only am I examining the fears that I've
- 16:11inherited, but I'm also examining, examining the idea, the identities that I've had, right? I've
- 16:18had ideas about who I am, you know, about my body and what my body is able to do. Since I was in
- 16:24elementary school, we used to have to do crazy things in school, like crab walk. You know,
- 16:29I remember that were your hands. And yeah, I'm like, this feels weird. And I feel like I don't
- 16:37like this. And I don't feel like my body moves this way. And I was always embarrassed to move
- 16:42in front of other kids, even in elementary school. And so I've had to really and I'm
- 16:48still a big girl. And you know, to go surfing, the first the first photos that came back from
- 16:56my very first surf retreat, I weighed 230 pounds when I went and someone took a photo of me and
- 17:04showed it to me afterward. And I just started crying. I'm like, Oh my gosh, you know, this is
- 17:12this is not what I want to look like. This is not what my head thinks I look like.
- 17:16And I've had to work really hard to be okay, with all of the identities that
- 17:23to really question which identities serve me and which identities don't alongside all of those
- 17:32fears. And that's, again, where the growing happens, right? We're always evolving and becoming
- 17:40something new. And my goal, I wanted to say this earlier, when we were talking about
- 17:47surfing your edge, it's not just so that you can look cool, or that so you can, you know,
- 17:54jump through hoops that impress other people or, you know, improve your, you know, social standing
- 18:01in the world. It's not about that. It's about right, getting closer to being the person you
- 18:06were born to be. That's the whole purpose behind surfing your edge, in my opinion, is,
- 18:12I think we're here to be the fullest expression of ourselves. And you have to surf your edge to do
- 18:20that. I Oh, boy, you said a mouthful right there. And I'm gonna jump on that train right now. So
- 18:28when you say we are here to live out that full expression of ourselves, what I call that is
- 18:39your core essence. And that's cor, your heart in Latin, right? We get to live out our heart essence.
- 18:50And the way I partner and support women with that is in asking the question that I asked you,
- 18:58or some form of it, like what role are you most proud of? Or what is one accomplishment
- 19:04that you have done that has that you haven't fully celebrated, that no one else would say
- 19:11is a good thing or something that you're supposed to do. But it's something that you were so busy
- 19:18chasing results, that you didn't take time to stop and say, I did that. And then as you celebrate
- 19:27that thing, you get to look at, okay, I'm glad that I did that. Well, who was I being in order
- 19:37to achieve that result? And when you examine those characteristics of who you were, you actually get
- 19:49to understand that's actually who you are. But when we have those places where we're in that
- 19:59fear, whether it's embodied or the expectations, the rigid rules, sometimes in some of our roles
- 20:06or aspects of life, those cloud our mind and overtake our beingness to where we are, our heart,
- 20:16the heart of who we are is underneath some stuff, right? So my main goal is to help
- 20:25excavate, pull up and pull out and say, hey, look, that thing that you said that you were proud to
- 20:31accomplish, this is how you were being in order to accomplish that. Now, now that you know that
- 20:39about yourself, take that way of being and put it on top of any other roles where you feel more
- 20:48challenged. And that's why I am very intentional with the word identity. And I know you used it.
- 20:57And I want to share something. Are you okay if I share my viewpoint on identity?
- 21:03Yeah. I love doing word studies. And I looked up the word identity because
- 21:09it always bothered me. And I didn't understand why until I did the etymology. Because people
- 21:16like, oh, I'm looking for my identity. I'm searching for my identity. I was searching
- 21:20for mine too. And then when I looked up the word, it means sameness. My mind was blown.
- 21:31And I'm like, oh, no, I'm not searching for my sameness. I'm searching for my genuine, unique,
- 21:40authentic self. So I'm not searching for the sameness of anything because I'm not the same
- 21:48as Kristine, as Danielle or Joe Blow or Joan Blow on the street. I am Elle. I'm uniquely,
- 21:56authentically me. So what's at the heart of me? What's at my core? And that opened
- 22:05so many more possibilities for me to begin to model what I want in the roles that I have,
- 22:16instead of allowing the roles to be a measuring stick. Like, no, thank you.
- 22:26Let me be the role model that I want to be from my heart, from my values.
- 22:32And then I get to own the role instead of the role owning me. And that's what I want to share.
- 22:40Because what I recognized, Kristine, I was intertwining not only the roles with expectations,
- 22:51I was also merging all the roles together with their expectations and responsibilities,
- 22:58rather than saying, okay, this is me as a woman. Yes.
- 23:06This is me as an employee, as a business owner, as a mother, as a co-parent, a spouse, whatever,
- 23:16right? So I talk about it in the terms of an orchestra, because orchestras have their parts.
- 23:25And when an orchestra plays, you're hearing all the parts. But sometimes you can hear the strings
- 23:34more than anything else. Or sometimes you can hear the drums or the woodwinds, whatever. That's
- 23:40the same with our roles. But when we get clear of this is responsibility for this, and stuff
- 23:46stops bleeding into each other, freedom. This is me from my heart. And this is me as the way I
- 23:55want to show up in this role as a business owner. And with me showing up this way,
- 24:04or you, Kristine, showing up the way that you choose as a business owner,
- 24:09that means that you get to say, I'm going to honor myself, honor my employees, honor my
- 24:19collaborators and vendors and everyone else, so that you don't feel like you're being taken
- 24:27advantage of. Or that you're having not only are you expanding your comfort zone, you're also
- 24:33having unnecessary or possibly necessary interactions that could have been avoided if
- 24:44you stayed true to your values kind of thing. So how is that landing for you, as I shared about
- 24:52core essence identity and being able to separate the different roles? What comes to mind for you?
- 25:00I love that. I love that. I think we tend to move really quickly. The way I've described it is that
- 25:13you're what the person in front of you needs you to be. And you're really good at it. And you don't
- 25:19even recognize that when the person in front of you changes, you change. And I think that
- 25:25once you start to recognize the distinction in your roles, the way you just described, that
- 25:32kind of shifts. You don't necessarily shift every time the person in front of you
- 25:40shifts or the role that you're playing comes to the fore. I don't know if I'm saying
- 25:47this right. But it sounds to me like that's when you get to be you across all of the
- 25:57instruments. I don't know if that sounds right. It does to me.
- 26:04I'm following you. I'm trying. I love the idea of it being an orchestra and that you don't
- 26:10play just one instrument or that you don't necessarily play one instrument and put it down
- 26:15and pick up the next. That you've got it all within you and you can play all the notes however
- 26:22you want to play them. Yeah, because each person is the conductor of their own lives.
- 26:30And with the work that you're doing and how you've shared that women have been like they've
- 26:38allowed themselves just to be molded and be the person that the person in front of them needed.
- 26:45That's exhausting. Yes. And that's why I believe so many women are tired because
- 26:54instead of living by their own values and who they be on the inside, because
- 27:02who's got time for that? Who's got time to figure that out, right? Right. And it requires permission.
- 27:09Right. Who's given them permission to take the time to figure out who they are?
- 27:16And one of the things that I find with my clients when they first come to me is a lot of times
- 27:23they just need someone to say it's okay to spend the time figuring themselves out, to figure out
- 27:29who I am now, aside from all of those expectations, aside from all of those roles that I play,
- 27:35aside from all of the things I've done, just because I'm really good at it,
- 27:40that doesn't mean I have to keep doing it. Right. It's like, I don't have to carry that anymore.
- 27:45I can put it down. Right. And also the other, the piece that goes alongside that is that,
- 27:53well, I don't want to ask for more because what I've got is so good. A lot of women feel like if
- 27:59they ask for more or they take the time to think about what more there would be,
- 28:04they're saying they're not grateful. And women are grateful, right? They love their lives. I
- 28:13know very few women who absolutely hate their lives. They'd like things to change in them,
- 28:18but they're grateful for the good stuff and they want that to be apparent.
- 28:23Yeah. So, but they don't, so they feel like they can't even say, well, if I, they can't even take
- 28:29the time to figure out what it would look like if there was something different. What would it look
- 28:35and feel like if I got to bring more of my core to the, to the forefront? What does that even
- 28:42look like for me? You know, I think I've had, I had a conversation with a woman who was going
- 28:49through divorce and she had a teenage son who spent two weeks out of every month now
- 28:56with her husband, with her ex-husband, leaving her alone for two weeks in the house. And she's
- 29:02like, what do I like to eat? What do I like to do? Where do I want to go? And I mean,
- 29:09on even the most basic levels, we can lose ourselves in all of those roles when we let them
- 29:17mash together. And we don't feel we have the right to take the time to figure out
- 29:23what we really want and like, and you know, want, how we want to be in the world.
- 29:30Right. And similar to the woman you were, your client that you were just mentioning,
- 29:36I have a similar experience in getting a divorce. And when my children were not at home,
- 29:44I was like, I had the same questions. Right. And one of the things I started doing
- 29:51was Eventbrite, finding, finding free local things to do. And sometimes they, there was also a cost.
- 30:02So I also invested in myself as well. So I found this, it was called Sip, Step and Socialize.
- 30:11So of course there were some alcoholic beverages, but I, anyway, you could drink. And then Step,
- 30:20they had someone there teaching us line dances. I love it. I was like, I love dancing. So I went
- 30:30there and then the socializing, I met people, you know, and I was like, I'm divorced. Is anybody
- 30:39going to like what I look like? Because like you, I was like, I'm the weight that I do not want to be
- 30:44right now. And I, I wanted to cry at pictures too. So I wanted to just let you know,
- 30:50I weighed the same as you, by the way. So I was just like, and, but there were three guys
- 31:00that were like, Hey, I'll give you my number. I was like, wait a minute. I look like this and
- 31:06you still want my number? That's what I was saying to myself. But I had to courageously
- 31:14step out there and I didn't go alone. I, I had someone come with me. She was late, but oh, well,
- 31:21we were there together just enjoying ourselves, dancing, learning. And that is scary. It was
- 31:30one of those edgy moments. But after I did it, Kristine, I was like, Oh, I need to find some
- 31:38more of these where I can go out and do things. So another thing that I found was on Valentine's
- 31:46day, they had a Galentine's day event and it was hiking. I was like, Ooh, let me go into nature.
- 31:53It's winter time. There shouldn't be any snakes. And so we walked a trail that led us to the lake
- 32:04and they had some water, the water had receded off of these boulders. And I was just like,
- 32:11okay, let me just go sit out on these boulders and reflect. It felt so good
- 32:19to do that. And again, that one, I knew no one. Wow. But I did it anyway. And that was some
- 32:31definite surfing, what I would call growth edge for me because I believe it or not, I'm, I'm a
- 32:40very shy person when I don't know the people. Right. So my growth edge is what I call it.
- 32:49Is I needed to like expand my comfort zone and do something to see what would actually happen
- 33:04because in the past, things like that didn't turn out well. Cause I did have an experience
- 33:09where I went somewhere not really knowing anybody and it wasn't the best experience. Right.
- 33:16Hmm. But I still like what you were saying in doing it, I learned something. So every experience
- 33:25that we step into, we get to lean into it and learn from it and then elevate, evolve, level up
- 33:36and grow and mature and get more and more connected with who we are, expand our comfort zones
- 33:46and I love how you illustrate the expansion is you do it on the edge. You're not stepping
- 33:53all the way out of your comfort zone. You're taking like a, is it like a baby step or something
- 34:00outside the comfort zone? That edge is that which, how you, how would you describe that edge surfing?
- 34:07I, yes, that's what I try to hold for my clients. We try to figure out what the full vision is.
- 34:13And then we just take one or two steps toward it. And I hold all of the other steps. So you
- 34:20don't have to, right. You just do. If you, and if you can design it so that it's the smallest step,
- 34:29so small that you just would feel ridiculous if you didn't do it.
- 34:34I love that. The simplicity. Yeah. I think that's a great way to start, but I love that you had the
- 34:41courage that you claimed that you are worth it, right? You are worth trying these new things.
- 34:50And you trusted on some level that you were going to survive it and you were going to be okay.
- 34:57And that's, it takes a lot of courage. So congratulations. I'm so glad you did that.
- 35:03And I know it's just continued. I'm sure you've got many, many stories beyond those,
- 35:08but those were beautiful first stories. Those are gorgeous.
- 35:13Yes. And when we share experiences like this in this, in the conversation that we're having,
- 35:20a lot of times women don't know where to even start. Yeah. And because I didn't know someone
- 35:29was like, try Eventbrite. Okay. So now I'm past, I'm paying that forward. Try Eventbrite or Meetup
- 35:36or any event space where you can go and, you know, surf your edge and do what you do something
- 35:46that you haven't done before to build that mind body awareness. Because a lot of people may think,
- 35:56oh, it's just in my mind. I just need to control my mind, have the right mindset. Well, your body
- 36:02and mind actually go together. So what I like to call it is your body mindset,
- 36:08because you've got to allow your body to also experience it to communicate it to your brain.
- 36:17I'm safe. Otherwise we're just allowing that survival part of our brain to rule and say, no,
- 36:27don't do it. Don't do it. And your body is like, okay, I'm not. But if we step out there
- 36:31and courageously and do it in a way that is like what you were saying, one or two steps
- 36:40beyond what we're comfortable with our brain and body can, because our body's going to react.
- 36:48Our body remembers so much and our, we could allow our brain. We can talk to ourselves
- 36:58essentially is what I'm saying. We can talk to ourselves in such a way to say, Hey, Kristine,
- 37:05Hey, Elle, you are going to be okay. Just take this baby step. Oh, you you're hesitant. You
- 37:13feel a particular way. Let's express those feelings. Hey, Elle's got, you can call Kristine.
- 37:20She's got emergency hours. I don't know if you have like those call me for 30 minute hours or
- 37:26someone or a mental health professional, someone who you can connect with to be able to express,
- 37:35Hey, this is what I'm feeling. Not expect them to carry your feeling or be stressed out about it,
- 37:41but just be able to say something out loud. Because as that woman who was divorced, who was
- 37:49used to having her children around her, and then they were bouncing back and forth, right?
- 37:57Being in the house by yourself, without those people that came from your body or that you
- 38:06adopted and put energy and all of that into, and then they're not there anymore. You're like, Oh
- 38:13my God. Cause that's a relationship because you were so many of us are so busy putting a lot into
- 38:21that parental parent child relationship that we don't put as much energy into us ourselves.
- 38:29And then when we have that space, we feel untethered. Yes.
- 38:38But I'm so glad that you can hold the rest of the steps while we surf that edge.
- 38:48Yeah. I mean, and I love what you say about being respectful of your body's response.
- 38:57The way I had, the reason I created the surfing at your edge experience is because I was afraid
- 39:02of open water and I wanted to learn to surf to kind of come out, overcome that.
- 39:09Yeah. And overcome isn't quite the right word either. I wanted to manage my fear in a healthy
- 39:16way. And I've before that I had been doing little sprint distance triathlons, trying to
- 39:23overcome my fear of open water. And the first time I get in the water, the first time I get in open
- 39:31water, I still panic. And I'm in several triathlon groups on Facebook. I still, I don't do triathlons
- 39:42right now, but I'm in those groups. And the biggest thing that comes up is the, how do I
- 39:47deal with the fear of water? Right. And there are seasoned triathletes who, even though they've been
- 39:55doing this for years, when they get in the water, there's their initial panic. And you have to,
- 40:00as you said, talk to yourself and remind yourself, you've done this. This is what it
- 40:05feels like. This is just the churn. This is just everybody trying to find their pace.
- 40:10You're going to find your water. You'll finish. It's going to be fine. So sometimes the fear
- 40:18never really goes away. And you just have to learn to trust yourself and give yourself that space
- 40:25to say like, okay, this is the fear. This is what always happens here. It's okay. It's normal.
- 40:31We'll get through it. And then you get through it.
- 40:34Yes. Right. And that's the, and that fear is what happened. I think that's the normal
- 40:43fear because every single emotion is present in our bodies and fear is, is one of those.
- 40:49And that's what, again, we have to make that distinction and discern between which fear is it
- 40:56and where is it coming from and things like that. So Kristine, we could probably talk a whole lot
- 41:03longer about, because this is so comfortable having this conversation with you, but we must
- 41:12tie this up. So what would you like to end with, like to share about the surfing your edge? Do you
- 41:24have something that you would like to share with the audience? I'm going to take that two different
- 41:34ways. The first way is there's something that you were talking about taking the first couple of
- 41:41steps and we didn't get to this exactly. I think a lot of times women think they can or should,
- 41:50because they're smart and they're capable, should be able to map out a path from where they are to
- 41:57where they want to be. They should be able to clearly see where they want to go and then map
- 42:01out a straight line that gets them straight there. That's what we think is the expectation
- 42:08for who we are and what we should be able to accomplish. And from my experience, 10 years of
- 42:15trying to do that, what I learned finally is that a path is made by walking. And so what you do
- 42:23is you take that first step and then you look around and you're like, what step feels right
- 42:29next? And you take that step. And it's only after you've taken multiple steps can you look behind
- 42:36you and go, oh, that's my path, right? Because if you can see the path laid out clearly before you,
- 42:45there's a chance it's somebody else's path. Right. And it's not your own. I love that.
- 42:53Yeah. So that was the first thing that I wanted to, I think that's what I want to end on.
- 42:58And I wasn't sure if you were going to invite me to offer a gift to your people. So I will need
- 43:06to create this because I haven't created it yet. But I will get you a link where if people would
- 43:13like to spend an hour with me just talking about possibilities, I love having little mini
- 43:21possibility parties with people. And I would love to just have a chat.
- 43:26Oh, that is awesome. So in the show notes and in the Inspire Speaker Vault, you will find
- 43:34Kristine's gift because, you know, this episode will be airing, but no buts. It will be in the
- 43:51opportunity to hop on and talk because when I was sharing about what I shared that I needed to
- 44:04celebrate, Kristine, just so that you know, is I went from entry level to manager in four years.
- 44:13And instead of celebrating that achievement, I kept moving forward to the next step because
- 44:20I thought it was mapped out for me. You are a mother, you are a wife, and you are in this field,
- 44:28and this is the trajectory you're supposed to go in. After you become this manager,
- 44:33you go to that next step. And I didn't take the time to say, oh, look at everything I did.
- 44:43Celebrate it. And recognize who I was being in order to be that. In order to make,
- 44:52to create those results, I had to be me. And then in celebrating. So I love, I'm so,
- 45:04I'm super excited to have these conversations because I believe what we're talking about
- 45:10is very aligned. You are the possibilities and expanding your comfort zone because I found this
- 45:19journal that said nothing great came from a comfort zone. And you are asking people to
- 45:27expand and be great by surfing the edge of that comfort zone because, yeah, that's what they're
- 45:36doing. And there's so many possibilities in that. And the experimentation and learning and
- 45:44being able to look back and see, oh, that was the next right step. And that worked. And that worked.
- 45:51And even if that step didn't work, what did I learn from that step? Which is very similar to
- 45:57what I'm sharing with expectancy. So instead of living in the rigid rules of expectations that you
- 46:05didn't choose and you didn't examine, you get to choose what you expect. And then you be the
- 46:12person that can achieve that. And as you are doing what you need to do from that place of being,
- 46:22you see what happens. That's expectancy. So the expectations aren't bad. It's just the
- 46:28unexamined ones. I wouldn't call them bad. I just say you just need to examine them and be discerning.
- 46:33So expectancy, surfing your edge, so aligned. And I would love to continue to work with you
- 46:43on different things, by the way. Well, I love that. And I'm actually thinking I need to have you on
- 46:49as my guest so we can talk about expectancy and how expectation, what you're expecting for your
- 47:00future, has a bigger role on who you're being now than you know. So I want to continue the
- 47:06conversation over on Surfing Your Edge. Yay! I agree. We're in alignment there. So let's get that
- 47:16scheduled. Awesome. So with that, we will end here. And just know, Kristine is going to have a
- 47:24gift for you. It will be in the show notes and in the vault. So thank you so much, Kristine.
- 47:32And let's all go out and surf our edge. Thank you, Elle. You guys, this session with Kristine
- 47:44was phenomenal. I can't wait to hop on her podcast, Surfing Your Edge. We
- 47:55shared so much in this podcast about being able to be on that edge of your comfort zone so that
- 48:05you can expand it. And as you expand your comfort zone, you are in relationship with that healthy
- 48:16fear, and you are expanding that. And you're able to talk to yourself in such a way that you know
- 48:24you're going to be fine because you'll remember those steps that you took before. And Kristine
- 48:32had great wisdom in saying, instead of having your path already lined out,
- 48:40just take the next right step and then be able to turn around and reflect on it.
- 48:48And that helps you continue to take that next right step. So hopefully, during this podcast,
- 48:58we brought the mirror, the map, and the method. And you get to choose. And remember,
- 49:07evolution is not a solitary sport.