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Ian Furness 10/22 H3: Steve Palazzolo, talkbacks, texts and Fact or Fiction plus a visit with Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Seahawks made a move today. Zach Charbonnet officially activated from
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  Speaker 2: the PUP list. Elijah Arroyo, tight end, second-year tight end,
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  Speaker 2: More NFL news. Eagles running back Saquon Barkley returned to
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  Speaker 2: practice today in line to play on Monday against the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: They missed the last two games with a hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 4: J.J.
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good for him.
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  Speaker 2: We like that a lot. I mean, he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: a big deal. We know that, but as well. We've
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  Speaker 2: got our first college football firing of the year.
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  Speaker 5: Did you know that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we do, huh?
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  Speaker 2: Came in the Big Ten Conference.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Maryland let go of Mike Loxley. He'd been there for
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  Speaker 2: eight years. By the way, he was mutual.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't like, no. He was like, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 2: It was mutual. He was 39 and 54 at Maryland,
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  Speaker 2: but he has been 10 and 21 over the last
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  Speaker 2: three seasons. And it's hard. Man, there is pressure to win.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of talk about who might replace him there,
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  Speaker 2: including one, Jake Dickert.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I bet you would love that. You only want
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  Speaker 3: good things for Dickert.
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to come around on him a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you when I won't come around on him
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  Speaker 2: is when the current athletic director at Washington, if he
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  Speaker 2: were to hire him to replace Jed Fish.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I wouldn't come around on that either.
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  Speaker 2: I would not be happy with that situation. I would
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  Speaker 2: not be happy. Unless he brought Jaden Delora back to
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  Speaker 2: plant the flag.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: That turd.
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  Speaker 2: Could you forgive him, Husky fans? Not Jaden. Could you
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  Speaker 2: forgive Dickard? I mean, he got the win. That's what
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  Speaker 2: got him the job, for God's sakes.
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  Speaker 4: It's true. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Are we good?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Standing by right now, our guy, 33rd team.
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  Speaker 2: Check the Mike podcast. Let's talk Seahawks and Chiefs. Steve Palazzolo.
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  Speaker 2: Now with Ian, here's Steve Palazzolo. Alright, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Palazzolo joining us. Big thanks to our friends at
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  Speaker 2: a couple seconds. Of course, Steve, check the Mike Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: 33rd Team joins us every week. Thanks to Zeke's. Hello, sir.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Doing great. How are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: We're good. We're good. We get a little stress here
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle, Steve, if I'm being honest with you. We
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  Speaker 2: got a little stress going on here in Seattle. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, lost one week ago today to the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: That didn't feel so good, and Now all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden this team is sitting there at 3-3, the defending
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions, and oh, by the way, Kansas City's
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  Speaker 2: coming to town. Your discussions this week with Sam and
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  Speaker 2: others about this team, let's start with I guess the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback and Sam Darnold. What are you guys seeing?
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  Speaker 5: The turnovers again? It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, there's more to it, but obviously the taking
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  Speaker 6: care of the ball. I thought it was fascinating coming
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  Speaker 6: out of that game last week where Bo Nix was
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  Speaker 6: taking a lot of criticism and it Ryan Fitzpatrick kind
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  Speaker 6: of goes viral for saying he's not aggressive enough and
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  Speaker 6: embarrassing to the quarterback position because Fitz was an aggressive quarterback, right?
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  Speaker 6: And Bo Nix is not right now. And I was
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  Speaker 6: kind of half joking. I said, the quarterback that needs to,
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  Speaker 6: you know, balance this out and yell at Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 6: is Alex Smith.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Alex Smith is in the media. He needs
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  Speaker 5: to go say, Darnold needs.
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  Speaker 5: Because Alex Smith was great at that.
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  Speaker 6: He was great at avoiding interceptions and didn't take a
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  Speaker 6: lot of chances. And he just kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 6: let the defense do their work and move the ball,
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  Speaker 6: but didn't, you know, didn't try to flip the field and,
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  Speaker 6: you know, didn't turn the ball over. And I think
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  Speaker 6: that's maybe where Darnold needs to go. Like I generally
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  Speaker 6: like aggressiveness from quarterbacks. I like, um, obviously putting points
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  Speaker 6: on the board and you want to get your playmakers
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  Speaker 6: involved and you have jsn but it's almost to the
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  Speaker 6: point where seattle's defense remains elite remains so good that
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  Speaker 6: the most important thing like i i never i'm never
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  Speaker 6: looking for punts from the offense but you might get
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  Speaker 6: to a point where it's like all right let's just
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  Speaker 6: let the defense do their work and um i think
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  Speaker 6: that's where we are with donald's the mistakes adding up
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  Speaker 6: and the timing of the mistakes adding up And that's
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  Speaker 6: the part that really needs to get cleaned up for
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  Speaker 6: Seattle to go back to where they want to go.
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  Speaker 2: How much of the run game being literally non-existent has
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  Speaker 2: kind of hurt Seattle in terms of Sam Darnold's performance
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  Speaker 2: and maybe trying to feel like he's got to press
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  Speaker 2: it too much?
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  Speaker 6: I think there's parts of that. I've seen some data
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  Speaker 6: on that. They're seeing fewer heavy boxes. And again, it's
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  Speaker 6: worth reminding people what happened last year around this time.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't like... Ken Walker was sitting here averaging six
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  Speaker 6: yards a carry like he is right now. That was
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  Speaker 6: not happening last year at this time. What was happening
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  Speaker 6: is a whole bunch of games where Seattle ran the
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  Speaker 6: ball a lot, not necessarily efficiently on a, you know,
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  Speaker 6: say play-by-play basis. But you would come out of the game,
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  Speaker 6: and I called it the old-school Shanahan-Kubiak game. Go back
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  Speaker 6: to Matt Schaub's Texans with Arian Foster, and what did
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  Speaker 6: the box score look like? And the box score said
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  Speaker 6: something like, hey, they ran the ball, their bell cow
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  Speaker 6: ran it 20 to 25 times pretty efficiently, and the
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  Speaker 6: quarterback threw it.
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  Speaker 5: 25, 28, 30 times.
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  Speaker 6: Not a ton, but extremely high efficiency, high yards per
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  Speaker 6: attempt and everything. And that was Darnold last year, right?
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  Speaker 6: He threw the ball 28 times, 30 times, 10 yards
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  Speaker 6: a pop.
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  Speaker 5: Very efficient.
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  Speaker 6: JSN's kept in 70% of it, and it was working.
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  Speaker 6: And there was an element of the volume of the
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  Speaker 6: run game.
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  Speaker 5: And I go back to.
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  Speaker 6: Clay Kubiak and that whole Shanahan-Kubiak tree and the structures
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  Speaker 6: that they create and the looks that they create. It
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  Speaker 6: felt like they were creating the right looks to win
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  Speaker 6: your one-on-ones, to get JSN in favorable matchups, to set
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  Speaker 6: him up for his breakout season. And you're just missing
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  Speaker 6: some of that, right? You don't have efficiency in the
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  Speaker 6: run game.
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  Speaker 4: Fine.
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  Speaker 6: But it's not also being offset with, say, a short
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  Speaker 6: passing game that's keeping them on schedule. They're lacking rhythm.
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  Speaker 6: There's fewer easy buttons, seemingly, for Sam Darnold. And it
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  Speaker 6: does put a little bit more pressure on him, I
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  Speaker 6: would say. In other words, I think they need some
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  Speaker 6: easy buttons either from the run game or the short
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  Speaker 6: pass game. And then that helps to open things up
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  Speaker 6: down the field just a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Palazzolo joining us. Steve, the the one of the
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  Speaker 2: storylines here obviously is is ken walker's it's not just
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  Speaker 2: one of them it's actually sam donald's probably thrilled it's
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  Speaker 2: the storyline this week sam donald's taking a back seat
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  Speaker 2: to ken walker and the seahawks didn't bring him back
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  Speaker 2: and you know and all that goes into that there's
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot that goes into that as you
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  Speaker 2: well know i mean one of the things and just
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  Speaker 2: for those who you know are new to our show
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  Speaker 2: or new to the segment with steve we have steve
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  Speaker 2: on in the spring too and I would say that
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  Speaker 2: it's safe to say one of your favorite things is
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  Speaker 2: roster building, right? You love the offseason. You love the draft,
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  Speaker 2: but you love the roster building, free agency, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I bring this up all the time. Can we
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  Speaker 2: even make a judgment yet on the Ken Walker move
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  Speaker 2: if we haven't even played an entire season or two
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  Speaker 2: yet with the decision not to bring him back? Or
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  Speaker 2: is it fair to criticize John Schneider right now?
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  Speaker 6: I think you can make a call on the move
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  Speaker 6: for Kansas City, and if you're Seattle, you can still
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  Speaker 6: say wait and see. I think you can play both sides.
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  Speaker 6: I think you can look at the Chiefs and say, okay,
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  Speaker 6: we can clearly feel and see the impact in our
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  Speaker 6: particular situation because that's important. Kansas City's situation was– We
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  Speaker 6: think we have a pretty good offensive line, especially on
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  Speaker 6: the interior. We had no explosiveness at the running back
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  Speaker 6: position last year. We were very efficient running the ball,
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  Speaker 6: but for not a lot of yards. Efficient as in, hey,
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  Speaker 6: we stayed on schedule. We got the second and six.
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  Speaker 6: We converted third and ones. but they needed some kind
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  Speaker 6: of big playability. Okay, Kenneth Walker's a great guy to
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  Speaker 6: bring in. We'll get the four, but he'll turn four
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  Speaker 6: into 50 a few times. That is exactly how it's
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  Speaker 6: played out for Kansas City. That doesn't mean it would
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  Speaker 6: have happened exactly as such in Seattle. Obviously, Walker was
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  Speaker 6: great down the stretch and everything, but it's not like
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  Speaker 6: he averaged six yards a pop here in Seattle and
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  Speaker 6: you just let that walk out the door, right? So
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  Speaker 6: we're still working off of small sample sizes. We haven't
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  Speaker 6: really seen Dinarian Price. And so we don't have.
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  Speaker 5: the other facts, so to speak, from a Seattle perspective.
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  Speaker 6: And then the other part of paying running backs is
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  Speaker 6: the durability, right? You don't pay running backs long-term because
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  Speaker 6: of durability questions. Will, you know, will Kenneth Walker be
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  Speaker 6: able to do this for three years? Would he have
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  Speaker 6: gotten hurt? Would he be playing half the games instead of,
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  Speaker 6: You know, a full slate. Those are questions that we
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  Speaker 6: won't know until over time. So it's tough to say
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  Speaker 6: from Seattle's perspective, okay, it's wrong, of course. But from
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  Speaker 6: Kansas City's perspective, you could easily say, hey, this is
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  Speaker 6: what we needed. This is what we needed to kind
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  Speaker 6: of get Mahomes back on track. So I'd say it's
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  Speaker 6: like a win for Kansas City and a TBD so
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  Speaker 6: far for Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you brought up a great point. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like Seattle was... using Ken Walker last season as Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City is this year. And I'll just give you this.
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  Speaker 2: This just jumps off the page. Last season, the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: had three players go over 100 yards rushing in a game.
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  Speaker 2: Walker twice and Charbonnet. Walker did it. against the Steelers
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  Speaker 2: on September 14th. He went for 13 for 105. Then
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  Speaker 2: he did it against the Rams on December 18th. He
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  Speaker 2: ran for exactly 100 yards in that game, Steve, and
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  Speaker 2: 55 came on one run. And then Charbonnet did it
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  Speaker 2: against the Panthers a couple weeks later. For comparison, there
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  Speaker 2: are 900-yard receiving games by JSN last season. So your
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  Speaker 2: point about, hey, this isn't how Seattle was using him
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  Speaker 2: and may have used him anyway, is well taken. Because
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  Speaker 2: a year ago right now, it's not like this guy
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  Speaker 2: was tearing it up. He had one 100-yard rushing game
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  Speaker 2: to this point, and it was 105.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not like for like, but I said the
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  Speaker 6: same thing about Saquon Barkley when he went from the
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  Speaker 6: Giants to the Eagles. He goes from averaging 3.9 yards
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  Speaker 6: per attempt to about 6%.
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  Speaker 5: In a new situation.
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  Speaker 6: And the new situation in Philly was one of the
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  Speaker 6: best offensive lines, a running quarterback that helped set them up.
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  Speaker 6: And so it's not exactly like with Kansas City, but
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  Speaker 6: like I said, they've got a good interior offensive line.
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  Speaker 6: They've got a great offensive mind in Andy Reid. And
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  Speaker 6: you have the best quarterback of the generation that usually–
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  Speaker 6: teams say, we don't want that guy to beat us.
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  Speaker 6: We usually say, we don't want Mahomes to beat us.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to let this team run. He went to
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  Speaker 6: a situation where he's gone from a career 4.3 yards
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  Speaker 6: per attempt in Seattle to now 6.3 in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 6: First off, it's going to come back down to earth
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  Speaker 6: at least.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Secondly, there's no saying that running back production is the
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  Speaker 6: least transferable is what we always like to say. It's
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  Speaker 6: the most dependent on the running, the situation, the offensive line,
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  Speaker 6: the play caller, the quarterback, the weapons on the outside.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that Walker wouldn't have made a major
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  Speaker 6: impact here. Maybe he would take some pressure. Maybe he
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  Speaker 6: would be this good, but we hadn't seen it for
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  Speaker 6: an extended period of time in Seattle. So I think
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  Speaker 6: it's tough to say what would have been or what
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  Speaker 6: could have been. And I know it's tough to see
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  Speaker 6: and everything, but I think it's just in a really
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  Speaker 6: good situation in Kansas City, the way it's setting up
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  Speaker 6: for him right now.
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  Speaker 2: It is our good friend, Steve Palazzolo from the 33rd team.
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  Speaker 2: And continuing on as we cruise on to this weekend
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  Speaker 2: coming up with a huge game. I'm going to get
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  Speaker 2: to some other stuff, but let me wrap up this. Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City, number one offense in the NFL, number one
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  Speaker 2: defense in the NFL. How do those usually go, Steve?
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  Speaker 6: I think the defense wins out often. For Kansas City,
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  Speaker 6: I think you could easily look back and say, okay,
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  Speaker 6: they beat up on the Broncos in the run game
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  Speaker 6: in week one, and then they haven't played a ton
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  Speaker 6: of great teams, particularly defenses, the Colts, Dolphins, Raiders.
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  Speaker 5: Last week against the Chargers, they have not had.
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  Speaker 6: A difficult schedule to this point, and I think this
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  Speaker 6: is the biggest challenge for Kansas City. And so I
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  Speaker 6: think that side of the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Is going to be fascinating.
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  Speaker 6: I'm looking at, you know, Nicky Manwari, those linebackers, if
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  Speaker 6: they can help bottle up Kenneth Walker. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 6: you want to make Mahomes throw and make Mahomes throw
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  Speaker 6: to beat you, you know, against the Chiefs. That's not
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  Speaker 6: usually a favorable strategy, but... in this season where they
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  Speaker 6: have some injuries at receiver and my homes has been
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  Speaker 6: in very favorable situations. We'll say this year, that past
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  Speaker 6: game has been in very favorable situations because of Walker
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  Speaker 6: and having leads and everything.
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  Speaker 5: This would be the first.
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  Speaker 6: Time if you, if you make a high volume Kansas
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  Speaker 6: city passing attack where Seattle does tend to win over time,
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  Speaker 6: that might be the game flow that the Seahawks are
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  Speaker 6: looking for. Believe it or not, my home's throwing the
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  Speaker 6: ball 45 times and you know, lower percentage type of
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  Speaker 6: options here. So I think it's going to be a
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  Speaker 6: great matchup. And it really does come down to Kansas
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  Speaker 6: City's been on the right side of turnovers. And they've
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  Speaker 6: had a bunch of drives start in opposing territory. That's
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  Speaker 6: been the story of what has done Seattle in. That's
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  Speaker 6: the reason why the defense is like second or third
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  Speaker 6: in most efficiency metrics, but ninth in points per game allowed.
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  Speaker 5: It's all because of the short field.
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  Speaker 6: So it'll all come down to taking care of the ball,
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  Speaker 6: the turnovers, and Seattle trying to find some kind of
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  Speaker 6: rhythm offensively.
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  Speaker 2: Steve, we get a little stressed out out here, as
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  Speaker 2: a lot of NFL cities do. There's math in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL that usually is pretty simple. That right-hand column, the
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  Speaker 2: left-hand column is wins. That right-hand column, if we eliminate ties,
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  Speaker 2: not giants, and commanders, that right-hand column is everything. And
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  Speaker 2: what I mean by that is you can only get
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  Speaker 2: to a certain point before it becomes very problematic. How
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  Speaker 2: problematic is it? You're at three losses. Hell, let's look
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  Speaker 2: at the Rams. They're at four losses. The 49ers are unbeaten.
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  Speaker 2: How problematic is the division right now? Because on the
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  Speaker 2: surface for most of us out here, it does not
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  Speaker 2: look too easy.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, for winning the division, it's going to be
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  Speaker 6: a challenge now because the Niners have taken care of
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  Speaker 6: business in some tough games. They survived Monday night, almost
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  Speaker 6: blew it against Washington. But they haven't slipped up, obviously.
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  Speaker 6: So I think division-wise, it's going to be a challenge
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  Speaker 6: with the Niners and everything. But as far as the
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  Speaker 6: NFC goes, the North, everybody's over 500. Lions, Bears, Packers,
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  Speaker 6: and Vikings sitting there undefeated. They'll end up beating each
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  Speaker 6: other up at some point. The East looks like an
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  Speaker 6: absolute train wreck right now. The Giants are in first
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  Speaker 6: with 3-2 and the 1 tie. But the Cowboys at
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: 2-4 have the best odds to win the NFC East
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  Speaker 6: right now. So in the NFC South, it's similar, right?
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: The Panthers are sitting here at 3-2. No one else
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: has more than two wins. They're all, you know, two
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: and four Falcons, two and four Saints, one and five Bucs.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: So getting into the playoffs, the wildcard and everything. Look,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: Seattle still has all of that right in front of them.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: Division wise, sitting there three games behind the Niners, they
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: obviously won that first matchup. It's going to be tough
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: to get back to winning the division, but there's certainly
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: a wide open wildcard race in an NFC that looks
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: like two of the divisions. are only putting a division
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: winner in and nothing else at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked about that this week. I'm glad you
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: brought that up because it feels like, okay, NFC East,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: whatever hot pile of garbage comes out of that thing
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: is one. And then more than likely, I think we
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: can all safely say, I mean, there's a lot of
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: football left to play. We get that. But Carolina seems
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: to be the the clubhouse leader and easily the class
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: of that division in the South. After that, it feels like, okay,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: division winner North, division winner West, so whoever the North is,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: and then the Niners, and then it's Seattle and the
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Rams battling with three other teams, right, in the NFC
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: North for a wildcard spot, more than likely.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's what we're looking at at this point.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: And the big picture for Seattle is still taking care
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: of things in-house. I keep reiterating the fact that their
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: defense hasn't regressed. It's one of the more– sometimes this happens.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: You just have this elite defense, and you run into
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: good offenses, and it's really tough over time to just
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: always have an elite defense. I think they're there. I mean,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: I think they're at this point where you trust that
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: side of the ball. And I think what they need
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: to figure out here, or at least– hope isn't true.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Sam Donald will always have that hanging over his head. Hey,
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: he had six or seven years. We didn't do much
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: in the league. He had two great years. Was that
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: fool's gold for two years? Can he bounce back? I
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: think he can. That's what they got to figure out.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: The map will work itself out, but Seattle has to
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: figure out how to get Donald more comfortable taking care
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: of the ball better, but also keeping that aggressiveness because
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: that's part of what's made him such a productive and
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: winning quarterback the last two years is two things his
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: ability to attack down the field both in Minnesota and
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: Seattle and then the amnesia that quarterbacks need that corners
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: need that pitchers need when things go sour how do
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: you bounce back and I think Donald's done a great
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: job of that over his career and you know these
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: last few weeks may have snowballed a little bit but
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: they got to get them out of it if they
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: can get them out of it I think Seattle's going
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: to be just fine.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah we were out there yesterday I mentioned this uh
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Just watching him come out for practice yesterday, massively relaxed.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You can't fake some things. He just looked good. He
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: looked like he's– and I think what you said is
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I'm as confused as Sean McVay is every week at
• 19:15
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• 19:21
  Speaker 6: this five-game stretch that's pretty easy, and I thought they
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• 19:34
  Speaker 6: They have to play Seattle two out of the last
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• 19:38
  Speaker 6: But instead, I don't think Stafford's playing that well. The
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: weird thing about Stafford, I know some people are calling
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: him top five QB of all time, which is absurd,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: but Stafford's really not stacked two good seasons together. They
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: won the Super Bowl in 21. He regressed in 22.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: He was good in 23, but it kind of tapered off.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Coming off the MVP season... He was destined to kind
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: of regress a little bit, but it's not great. He's
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: missing some throws, putting the ball in harm's way, fumbling
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: with the game on the line last week. And so
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Stafford's not playing great. And then when you build a
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: team around a whole bunch of veteran stars, injuries are
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: always going to be a possibility. So you've got Devontae
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Adams with a hamstring and Kobe Turner's hurt. Not that
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: he's old, but who would afford getting hurt?
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: So now the injuries are adding up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: And so it's just a lot of little things adding up,
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: the special teams still being awful. But I think the
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: main driver is a little bit of regression from Stafford
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: that you can account for, but it's been extreme enough
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: that I think it's probably cost them a couple.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Games to this point.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Devontae Adams' injury seems to be problematic. I know when
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Puka's on the field, he'll get targeted 20-plus times, or
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: at least he did last game. But even so, one
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: of the reasons you can do that is because, okay,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: it's hard to cover Puka, but then you get this
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: red zone threat, especially a red zone threat in Devontae Adams.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: That seems to be a major loss for them.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: He's been a red zone cheat code for them.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: He's such a good fade slant runner. We saw that
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: with Aaron Rogers in green Bay. Once they get inside
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: the five, it is so tough to cover Devante Adams.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: And that was a big part of Stafford's MVP season,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: whatever he had 48 touchdowns, how many of those were
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: fade slants, just the red zone work that him and
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Devante Adams were able to do. So I think that's huge.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: They're in the market for a receiver. Supposedly you still
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: have miles Garrett injured. I mean, part of building a
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: team with that much talent is, If I said, hey,
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: two of your defensive tackles are down, you'd be in trouble. Hey,
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: they still have Braden Fisk. They still have Aaron Donalds.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: They have enough depth to handle this. So you don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: write the Rams off right now, but I think they've
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: hit a stretch where they've got some injuries, some inconsistencies,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: some special teams, a lot of things.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Adding up, not going their way.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: And now I think they'll find a way to get
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: back on track, but they're running out of time. They
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: have a stretch to play that they can, but they're
• 21:55
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• 21:56
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• 23:03
  Speaker 5: All right, Ian, you asked for it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: I am fired up because I'm so sick and tired
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: of talking about the lack of running backs that we have.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: We have NFL caliber running backs with NFL skill sets.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: I don't care if they're third string or not. We
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: do not have an NFL caliber play caller. Every time
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Holani's in the game, we pass the ball. Every time
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: Wilson's in the game, we run in between the tackles.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: And then we ask Sam Darnold to make things happen
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: out of nothing. And then JSN.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: To put the cherry on top.
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: Figure it out, Brian Flurry.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: One thing we all know that every time Helani's in
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the game, they don't throw the ball. There was one
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: time I can remember.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe he got it backwards.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: There was the one time they probably should have thrown it. Yeah, right.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I love that passion. That's a great talk back.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Next.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: I feel like either I'm on crazy pills or there's
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: a massive amount of recency bias going on with Walker
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: because Charbonnet was our 1A last season. He was an
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: absolute beast out there, and Walker was almost going to
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: lose the starting position to him. Because Walker just wasn't
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: getting the yards. He ended up being the Super Bowl
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: MVP because Charbonnet wasn't able to play, and they weren't
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: going to give the MVP to the entirety of the
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: defense or the kicker. And he's doing great out in
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: Kansas City, but he's got running threat Mahomes behind him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I just don't get it. I don't think there's ever
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: been a question who the better running back was between
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: those two guys. Now, usage is a whole different topic.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: But I do feel like a lot of people are
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: downplaying what Zach Charbonnet can actually do because of the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: fact that we don't have him right now and the
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: run game is suffering and Ken Walker's doing so well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are kind of saying like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: oh man, all we have is Zach Charbonnet. I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Zach Charbonnet did a good job last year.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: He did a good job. He's a different running back.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: He's not the speed. He doesn't have the speed and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the cutback.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: But I have confidence in him when he's in the game.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I would agree. I mean, last season,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Walker had 221 carries. Charbonnet had 184. They both averaged
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: over four yards a carry. Charbonnet was the goal line
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: guy at 12 touchdowns. Walker at five.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: And you could tell that bothered Walker a lot.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: He's not here anymore. We move on.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: Next.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Be prepared for three hours of, now here's a guy,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. Nobody does it like him.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: He's the best there is. I was his date to
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Taylor and Travis's wedding. Now that he's got Ken Walker III,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: they're unstoppable. They're the best team in the country. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: don't know who could stop them. Who could do it?
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: This is what makes them great.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: No doubt. It's going to be insufferable. Here's a guy.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Here's a guy.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Here's a guy in Ken Walker. I can hear it already.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Here's a guy. Here's a guy, and Sam Darnold just
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: cannot throw it to his right to his own team.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Here's a guy. Oh, Collinsworth.
• 25:49
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• 25:50
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• 25:51
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  Speaker 2: talk show host and show in the city. And Richard L.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Fane with Jackson, I'm always taking the ender felts. That's 335. Ashley,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I like it. You know what? For no other reason,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: just showing some loyalty to the hometown team. That's right.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Everybody else is too scared. Come on. You want to
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: support this darn football team? Put your money where your
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: mouth is.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Text FACT to 49451 right now. What are you messing
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: around with?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Let's effing go.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Big thanks to Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel. Every day
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: feels lucky. They're giving away $ 1, 000 every week for 14 weeks.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: At the end of the 14 weeks, they're giving away
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: $ 10, 000 to whoever has the most correct picks during the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: course of this contest. Again, we do it four times
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: a day, 735, 1135, 235, and... 3.35 with the Mahler
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: extravaganza featuring Richard Alfane and Jackson. I'm always taking the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: under felts.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: We need Furious taking the under felts.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I'm taking the under.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: He's always in the under.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Once again, Ashley, your pick is?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Seahawks minus the two and a half at home versus
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Book it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Am I the only one surprised they're favorite? I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I guess it's two and a half, so that kind
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: of eliminates the home field advantage. It's almost a push it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: But the other day when I was going to take it,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: they were favored by two.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. Hey, you got a little value pick.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Same difference.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: A little value. Got a little value. Yeah, got the hook.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Here we go.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: All right. 49451, text FACTORFICTION. 49451 for Ashley's pick. Seahawks
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: minus two and a half. You're trying to win $ 1, 000
• 31:18
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• 31:21
  Speaker 2: or FICTION. We'll check in with David Mahler next. All
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: righty then. Here he is.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: All righty. Here he is. Hey, I got to see
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: if I heard something right.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: What is it? Because I hear a lot of mumbo
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: jumbo on your show today. A lot of hogwash on
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: your show. I'm number three for a reason.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: A lot of guff on your show.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Number three for a reason, buddy.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Did you say the Kraken have $ 3 beers tonight during
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: happy hour?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: They have a $ 3 beer, sir. The first hour that
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: they are open, $ 3 beers, $ 3 hot dogs.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: That is sensational.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: It's a great move, yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Sensational. Yeah. $ 3 beers before a hockey game. Get over there,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: pound three or four of them for $ 12, and you're
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: on your way.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, I've got to be there tonight,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: but I don't have to do a broadcast.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Why don't you get a beer?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: You're not on the air.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: You're not working.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I just thought of that. I think that will happen.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Why do you have to be there if you're not working,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: by the way? Because you love hockey? Actually, a couple reasons,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: but Saturday. We'll study up for Saturday, so maybe a
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: beer is not a good idea.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Listen to you studying up.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Me? I'm known for my preparation. Known for my preparation.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: That's why you're number three, baby. I'm three.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Because of your preparation.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: You're number one.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I'm number three. You're known for your preparation. H is
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: what you're known for. That, too.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: That, too.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: That, too.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Number three, baby.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: But that is really cool. $ 3 beers at the hockey
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: game tonight.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Great idea. Come on inside. Get there. From the time,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: it's an hour, the first 60 minutes after the door
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: is open. I'll be honest with you. I get... confused
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: when the doors open these days because the game's at 640,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: now it's at 7.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: So if the game is at 7 o'clock, that means
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: it's a national game and there's no local TV.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Correct, yes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: That's why it's at 7 o'clock tonight.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: That's correct. Yeah, and my guess is probably closer to 720.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I like those 640 face-offs.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I do too. You know, the two ones, both ones
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: they've had so far, the games have gone extra long.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And it hasn't made a difference, so it's kind of funny.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It's not my problem. Nope, nope, not your problem.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I'm more worried about the face-off.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: You can play all night as far as I'm concerned.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I know what you're concerned with. What time is Dave's
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: off time today?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. It's 6.30 tonight, right? Yeah, tonight we're
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: going to 6.30 or so. Benton's up there in Section 20. Oh, yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: You can get beers right next to him and go
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: hassle if you want.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Hello, sir. He's a big drinker.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I'm a neckward sexual here. Leave me alone.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Leave me alone. You know what? He sounds to me
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: and feels to me like a guy with a real
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: low tolerance.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if I've ever even had a
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: beer with him.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: He likes some Coors Lights.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Does he?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I've had a couple of them.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: One. One.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: No, more than one.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Not many more than two.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Who's that guy stumbling down the stairs? That's Benton. How
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: many beers did he have?
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: One.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: That's the captain. That's the captain.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Where is he?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: He's not even here today. Usually he's here on a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: game day, like, you know, furiously prepping out there next
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to Jackson, getting ready. He must have gone home and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: took his pregame nap today or something.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: They might have said two furious people can't sit that
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: close to each other.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: No, you're right. I think you're right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of furious. That's a lot of furious
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Did you see the Stephen Vogt stuff that came out today?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Guardians manager.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Is he going to come here now? I did not.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Did you hear the quote from him?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I did not. Give me the quote.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Do you not.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Follow at softy KJR on Twitter?
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, I've got you blocked.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: You know, I.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Don't blame you at all for that, by the way.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: If that's the truth, I don't blame you at all.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Here's another reason I'm number three is I don't really
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: glance at Twitter often enough, probably. So if I go
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: to DaveSoftyMoller at Twitter.com, what do I find? What do
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I get?
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: He said he hasn't heard from anybody in Seattle and
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: that he's planning on staying with the Guardians.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Is he under contract still?
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: So they would have to go through the Guardians to
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: talk to him.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: That would be problematic.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: But you know how that works. Back channels, golf courses, right, whatever.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's ways to contact somebody before you contact somebody,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: but obviously they would have to get permission from the
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Guardians officially to talk to him. You know, his family
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: is out here.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: He just disappeared.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Where did Softie go? Softie just left? He left the building?
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Hello, hello, hello.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: He just left the building.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: He left. He left.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: 520 Bar and Grill. They unplugged him or something. He says,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: what does it say here? I'm looking at the quote
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: right now. I'm going to be here. I'm coming back.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I'm in Cleveland.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Softie's back. I'm back.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: What happened to you?
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: How long was I out for?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: 10 seconds.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: It's almost like someone decided to jump onto your channel
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: that you were.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Your channel.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Your back channel. You were talking about back channels.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: That happened yesterday, by the way, too.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Did it?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Can we not get on the same page around here?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Buddy, are you kidding me?
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Where's Jackson? Get Jackson's hairy ass in there.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: He's at his desk, so it wasn't him. I'm saying,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I think, another radio station.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, is it the Jubels? Did the Jubels do that
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to Softie?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was the Jubels. I believe there's
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: another station that's got its own morning show coming in
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: here tomorrow that doesn't normally work out of here.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Okay. Actually, why don't you jump on the tech chat there?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Tech chat. Get on the tech chat. Tell him Softie's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: got an award-winning three-and-a-half-hour extravaganza coming up, and he cannot
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: be knocked off the air. He's at the 520 Bar
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and Grill. There's a lot of big things going on
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: He's got Rick Neuheisel on today, Mike Holmgren on today.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: He's coming over. He's coming over to the bar.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: He's got Florio on today.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: No, Florio's Wednesday. Oh, is he?
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got Neuheisel today. We got Holmgren today. We
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: got Chris Collinsworth today at 5 with Mike.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, here's a guy.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Here's a guy. Brian Schmetzer. Brian Schmetzer today.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Joining us, what do you mean?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Chris Collinsworth. That's a great guess.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: You don't like Collinsworth?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: No, you know what I do? It's almost like a,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: what do you call it? It's a meme, like whatever
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: they call it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I don't like him.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, how many times on Sunday will he say,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: here's a guy in Ken Walker?
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Should have been resigned by the Seahawks. Exactly.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: The Seahawks just screwed up. They don't know what the,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: but that conversation's making me sick, by the way.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I'm so done with it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Are you aware of all that?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I'm so done with it. I'm just done.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I'm done.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Just get to the damn game. Let's play the game.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Shut them down.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Shut them down, and let's move on.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Right. Well, it's not very often that you have a
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: guy like that who leaves the Seahawks, and the Seahawks
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: are struggling in his position. He's kicking ass with somebody else,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: and you get to see him in week seven.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Yes. Right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty amazing that he's going to be
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: at Lumen Field on Sunday night. I mean, look, it's
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: going to be the best rushing defense that the Chiefs
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: have seen so far this year. If you're just going
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: by total yards, the Hawks are, what, 10th in the
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: NFL in yards? I think they're 4th in yards per carry. Chargers, 13th.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Dolphins were 8th. But the Vegas Raiders, the Colts, the
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Broncos are all bad against the run. So we'll see.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: We'll see what he can do.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: You know, just thinking as you're saying that, we don't
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: have a great track record here with our MVPs. Have
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you noticed that? Like, Malcolm Smith leaves, Gus Williams leaves,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker leaves. Ken Griffey Jr.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Leaves.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking about, like, MVP for championship teams. Like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: all three guys left. Like, they all left. I mean,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Gus left after he held out for, he played one
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: year and then held out and then left.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, we've only got three championship teams
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: in our history.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: And how many years combined? 150 or whatever?
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Now that's depressing. Now that's depressing.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: 50 years of Mariners, 50 years of Seahawks, 40 years
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: of Sonics. Oh, God. 140-plus years. You can go ahead
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: and throw in the Kraken for the last six seasons
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: or whatever, but 150 years, damn almost, and it's three guys.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Here's a guy.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Here's a guy. Here's a guy.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: What time is he on today?
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Five o'clock tonight.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, five o'clock.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: We'll put an over-under on how many times he says...
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Here's a guy.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker. I was waiting for you to jump.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: In, by the way, there.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Here's a guy. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's all right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: The Ken Walker thing, the game can't get here soon
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: enough on Sunday.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: What's the part of the Ken Walker thing that's getting
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: you tired?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, he's not here.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: All of it?
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: All of it. He's not here.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: He's not here? What?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: We can't turn back the clock. We can't change that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: He's gone. Let's move on.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: People are fighting on Twitter. I know. They're arguing about,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: did they choose Shahid over him? Did they not choose Shahid?
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Did he want to be here? Did he not want
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: to be here? There's plenty of dipsticks on social media
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: that will tell you what the Seahawks' philosophies are. We
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: get the Seahawks' philosophy. We all know what the philosophy is.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: The question is, did they do the right thing? That's
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: the question.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: You could have ended that sentence with, there's plenty of
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: dipsticks on Twitter. You could have just ended it right there.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: That would have been perfect.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Why not just change the name of that website, that app,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: to Dipstick?
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Dipsticks.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: I'm logging on to Dipstick, honey. Call you later.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right. And, again, let's reiterate this. Holmgren is
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: there today.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Correct. He will be here at 420 this afternoon.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: With his brand-new bionic foot.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. You can rebuild him. I can't wait
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: to hear his thoughts on Ken Walker, too.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, God. Are you kidding me? Darnold, how long is
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: the leash on Darnold? All that stuff.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: With Walker, do me a favor. Because you really dropped
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: the ball the other day with fame on what we
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: were trying to do.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big fail. No, I did not.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You just bailed.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: You bailed on it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: I busted his balls for like five minutes.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: And you sold me out. Well, I did.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Sell you out. It's not cool. But Jackson's the one
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: that's like, is this part of a bid?