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Ted Lasso Season 4 Through a Tits, Wit, & Grit Lens · Tits, Wit, & Grit

• Sara Frasca: Those who love Ted Lasso and those who haven't seen it yet. Never underestimate the power of anger as fuel. I think my answer would be that as I was starting to watch this season, the themes that they were showcasing were so poignantly connected to the themes that we are talking about. Tits Wit and Grit is a podcast created to hold honest, intelligent conversations with women who lead, build, and navigate demanding professional lives. This podcast was born from a belief that women benefit from spaces where experience is honored, perspective is shared openly, and leadership can be discussed in both depth and candor, and maybe even a little laughter. Each episode brings forth voices that will offer insight drawn from their experience, and we will all speak honestly about leadership, resilience, ambition, and personal evolution. So let's get started. Tits, wit, and grit. I have been excited all week for this episode. I'm dying to get into it, but boy, it's kind of fun how close the tits, wit, and grit topics are to season four of Ted Lasso. Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: So Laura: What said lasso? Sara Frasca: Ha ha very funny. Tracy Hill: Wait, I feel like that's the whole commercial they've got on Apple, Laura. The one with like, You didn't tell me Laura: Well maybe maybe Sara Frasca: Ha ha ha. Laura: our listeners don't know. So maybe Sara Frasca: my gosh. Laura: maybe they don't pay for Apple because they can't afford it. Just saying. Sara Frasca: I mean it could be the case, but I do feel like I think the quote I heard once was there's two types of people in this world. Those who love Ted Lasso and those who haven't seen it yet. Tracy Hill: Yes, that's valid. Laura: Okay, well let's find out how many people there are. I'm gonna Google it. the season four premiere, now I know this is only one show in two day launch window, seven point one million. Sara Frasca: Okay. So less than ten percent. Laura: August fifth alone, fans streamed over two hundred million minutes. This made it the most streamed program in the US that day. Sara Frasca: Hmm. Wow. Okay, let me ask a question for you both in your Tracy Hill: Two hundred million. Hmm. Sara Frasca: household. Does everybody watch Ted Lasso? Tracy Hill: Yes. Laura: yes. Sara Frasca: Yeah. Tracy Hill: Yeah. They do now. Sara Frasca: Okay. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Sara Frasca: We have one very strong holdout in our house and she refuses to watch it. And so we all kind of chuckle. But I will tell you that the biggest fan of Ted Lasso is our youngest, AJ. He is a devout watcher. I think he watches each episode multiple times. It's really cute, really fun. So Tracy Hill: Mm. Mm-hmm. Yep. I think I watched it first and then rewatched the entire thing with Charlotte and then we told Lee about it and then made him watch it and we're all like addicts now. It's great. Sara Frasca: That's fun. That's so fun. Well, I mean, our intention for today is to just kind of break down how closely linked the Ted Lasso season four is with our tits, wit, and grit content. So if you ladies are ready, Keely, you ready? All right. Tracy Hill: Always. Sara Frasca: Rebecca, are you Rebecca? Laura: I should've had the little biscuits. Yes. Sara Frasca: Biscuits. Tracy Hill: All the little pink biscuits. Sara Frasca: darn it. Well next time we'll probably have to break down the the latter Laura: Miss. Excellent. Next. Tracy Hill: Okay. Next time. Sara Frasca: half of the season. Tracy Hill: Wait, but the question, Laura, would be would you have the biscuit in it or the Kansas City barbecue? Okay. Laura: Let's get Sara Frasca: Okay, okay. Laura: Now if you wanna said if what a chocolate, no. Then I don't want to go on barbecue. Barbecue's too messy. Can't do that. Tracy Hill: okay. Okay. Okay. Well, as Rebecca showed us. Sara Frasca: As evidenced by the show, yeah, yeah. Laura: Yeah. Right. Exactly. Sara Frasca: okay, so if I was a character, who would I be? Tracy Hill: You're Ted. I do. I think you're Ted. Sara Frasca: You think so? Yeah. I mean my family thinks that too. Yeah. I should have done that. I could use Tracy Hill: Yeah, you just need we gotta get you one of those little mustaches. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: a I could use a Sharpie right now, but then the whole rest of the episode I'd have a mustache. So we'll do it at the very end. How's that? All right. Tracy Hill: Okay, dear. Sounds good. Laura: I also think a little bit of Higgins. Sara Frasca: Okay, I like Higgins. Very wholesome, very loving, very kinda naive. Laura: Mm-hmm. Sara Frasca: Okay, yep, I can see all of that. Know thyself, Laura: Mm-hmm. Yes. Sara Frasca: yep. But I do love the like coaching aspect of Ted and all of the positivity. I have our family's mantra like posted by the door to go out, which is have I ever told you this? Maybe Tracy Hill: No, you have a family mantra? Sara Frasca: yeah. Tracy Hill: What is it? Sara Frasca: Be confident, be kind, kill it. Laura: Good. That's nice. Tracy Hill: I like it. Sara Frasca: Every single day when they leave the house I say, Be confident, be kind and kill it. Tracy Hill: I like it. It's Sara Frasca: Yeah, well thank you. okay, so episode one I think starts a little bit with the question mark of whether Ted is going to do this and there's another person in the running and she just happens to be female. Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: What did you think of the fact that she may have been qualified, but they passed her over for a man? Laura: think that at Sara Frasca: Okay, great. Tell us more. Laura: Here's why. Because when you as the show goes on, which we should probably do a spoiler alert, like if you haven't watched any episode, like Sara Frasca: yeah. Tracy Hill: Hip pots. Laura: hit pause, come back and listen to us because we're gonna talk about all what how many are out now? Tracy Hill: Yeah. Sara Frasca: I even see the last one. So I'm I'm through four. Okay, okay. Don't tell me. Don't tell me. Laura: Five? I watched it last night. Well, I'm gonna talk about last night, so too bad. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Yep. Laura: nope. and here's why, as I get to know the character more, if I'm on the interview committee of from a skills perspective, sure, she's a soccer champion or footballer, all that good stuff. But from the people side, she doesn't connect. So, Sara Frasca: Yeah, totally agree. Laura: you know, in in some ways, sure, I'm sure there was some like, can a woman do this? But for me, it's all about she wasn't qualified in all the aspects of coaching of how to motivate a team, which Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Laura: was evident by the episode Maybe last night and the one before that. Sara Frasca: Yeah. I mean, I'm Tracy Hill: Yeah. Sara Frasca: really glad to hear you say that because I think, and this is what I was taught in my women's studies classes, like feminism is not male over female. It is the essence of equality. It is the it is the possibility that you're choosing the right person, not because of gender or any other reason, of course. But I really felt, you know, I mean, there were some early indications that. She had kind of earned earned the dismissal. and I didn't think it was because she was a bitch or she had too much or she was it was because the team didn't trust her. She wasn't necessarily the type of leader that they wanted to take this new team kind of into existence. So yeah, I I really I'm glad you said that, Laura. I I thought And they also had a known entity. And just because it was a man, they knew that he had the right stuff to kind of bring together the culture that they wanted for their organization. So yeah. Tracy Hill: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sara Frasca: okay. I think the next topic that I was going to kind of bring up was just like they're starting this female organization. they're getting a lot of chauvinistic comments, a lot of misogyny. I mean, can we just talk about like, my gosh, like I wonder if people realize that that's not a caricature. That's what actually exists. Tracy Hill: I mean, I think they lay a great foundation at the very is it this first episode when he's doing the press conference and everyone's hands shoot up, but they're asking him questions about the men's football team as opposed to the women's football team. I mean, I think that's a really valid, and present factor when people are talking, whether it's sports or other verticals, you know, that have been male dominated and now women are entering that arena. they're focusing on what has been historically done, what the reputation is, what success has looked like, versus necessarily trumpeting the fact that it's women entering that field. Sara Frasca: Yes. Do you remember Laura: Mm-hmm. Sara Frasca: a couple of years ago when all of that media started coming out about and and I can't remember if it was a college woman's team or a professional woman's team, but in the locker room and how they had like a couple of mismatched chairs and they had no like and just the juxtaposition of what the men's locker rooms looked like versus the women's locker rooms. Laura: Yeah, I mean I even think that might have been something at the Olympics too. No. Sara Frasca: I mean it wasn't that long ago, truly. Laura: No. Sara Frasca: So I just was reflecting back on, you know, not only were they, you know, nobody cares about the women's team, the women's team had nothing. They had no funding, no locker room, you know, no equipment, no no jerseys. I can't remember what they call that. Tracy Hill: kits. Sara Frasca: The kids. Tracy Hill: Yep. Sara Frasca: I just, it was like, you know, I again, I think we're in the year 2026, people, and this is still happening. I also wanted to tell you, and and you ladies know me, but my dad was a Division I women's hockey coach, and my brother is currently a Division Women's Division One women's hockey coach. And the discrepancy in the genders is still alive and well to this day. it's it's crazy. I mean, I think, you know, my brother is a part of a Big Ten program, so it's it's a at a very different scale than what my dad had at his little program up in northern Minnesota. But again, I would say from the budget to the attendance to the, you know, kind of even like the announcers and the it's it's really a a pretty like apparent. discrepancy still today. Tracy Hill: Yeah. I think one thing though that they highlight in Ted Lasso, specifically to what your point is the the locker room difference. At least my takeaway was is that the athletes they weren't complaining about it. They were accepting it. They were falling in line with it. There was no disgruntlement. They were showing up, they were practicing, they were doing all the things. And I think that demonstrates where we are still as women, right? We're We're creating space and that's why we're having this conversation, right? On TWG, is to is to create continue to create awareness so that things begin to change. But even today, we as women are still like, okay, that's where we are. We're accepting and we're moving forward. I mean, 'cause we're resilient. We have the grit, right? Titswit and grit to continue to push forward so that we can do the things that we love to do. Sara Frasca: Yes. Laura: And and and what it also highlights for me is the impact that one female leader can have. You know, Rebecca. Yes, she's funding the team, but yes, anything Keeley asked her for, like, I'm gonna redo the locker room. She's like, Okay, how much is it gonna cost? How many pounds? You know, but she did it. She leaned into it, she's doing it. And so I think that's where a lot of times my experience has been women make it to the top and they don't lean in for other women. Sara Frasca: that's great. I Tracy Hill: Yep. Yep. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: actually I think that the creativity needed in order to push Keely's ideas forward was kind of a fun. I mean, Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: again, it's not just necessarily hand it over. She has had to come up with ways to get it done, like asking for the visitor locker room or having those Laura: Mm-hmm. Sara Frasca: little girls create the kits. I mean, there were Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: some really cute moments, but it was like, you know, the We're not going to have necessarily the same budget, the same attention, the same whatever. And so there's some creativity coming from that. Tracy Hill: Mm-hmm. Yep. Laura: And and also I think too just the the disappointment when the fans weren't in the stands. You Sara Frasca: Yeah. Laura: know, Keeley like she tried so hard to get the stadium full and it didn't get full. But you know what? It just you just keep trying, like the grid. Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Laura: Just keep going. It it'll come. It'll come. Tracy Hill: What was super cool was that the athletes then rallied around her and they were like, That's the most that we've ever had in the Laura: Yeah. Tracy Hill: stadium. So to them, it was full. It was sold out, right? And I love that juxtaposition between one female's perspective and another's and their continuous ability. I mean, in my in my opinion, we do it amongst ourselves of lifting each other up or saying, Hey, let me clear your glasses so you can see it from an alternative perspective. Laura: Mm-hmm. Tracy Hill: Glass is half full, not half empty. Laura: Yeah. And I one thing I like about it is that the the the two players and I'm sorry, I don't know the sisters' names, but they're always fighting. I you know, Tracy Hill: Love it. Yeah. Laura: I love how they brought that into like, okay, just like siblings, brothers would fight, you know, sisters can fight and they all fight the same way. And so bringing that of like, okay, something Sara Frasca: So funny. Laura: that every family's gotta deal with, it doesn't Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Laura: matter. They can fight. I thought that was pretty good. Sara Frasca: Really cute. Laura: Really clever. Tracy Hill: Yep. Well No, I was just gonna Sara Frasca: How awesome. sorry. Go ahead, Tracy. Tracy Hill: say, and even when the and the episode where they had the tryouts, right? The open tryouts. And again, Laura, I don't remember all of the names, Sara Frasca: Yes. Tracy Hill: but the young lady who's the single mom, like my heart, Laura: Yeah. Tracy Hill: like wow. Like she brought her kiddo, she was like, I didn't have anybody to watch. and you know, Ted's interaction with the little person, you know, how how str are you super strong or how strong are you or whatever he said. There was no judgment, there was no discrimination because she was a single parent and brought little person with. Like I that was so powerful for me. I loved it. Laura: Mm-hmm. Sara Frasca: Feel the same. And I was Tracy Hill: Yeah. Sara Frasca: thinking about all of the strengths that she brings to the team because she is a mom. Yeah, Tracy Hill: Yep. Yep. Mm-hmm. Sara Frasca: I think that has been portrayed beautifully. Yeah. Okay, Tracy Hill: Yeah, it was great. Laura: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. For sure. Sara Frasca: I I wanted to bring up the quote that I think Zelda may have said it about her ex-husband. And the quote that she says is. Never underestimate the power of anger as fuel. You remember when she says that? They're talking about how she knew who Rebecca was at the kind of like the luncheon because of the fact that you know her divorce and getting cheated on was pretty public. And so she says, yeah, you know, I left him behind, haven't thought about him. And she said, you know, she had created the banana clip, and so then she came up with another clip. Never underestimate the power of anger as fuel. Tracy Hill: Mm. Laura: Hm. Sara Frasca: And I Okay, I I thought it was really a compelling component for me. as a young female, I had my uncle actually was a total jerk. I I worked for him for a long time and he was very cruel to me. Almost like the opposite of like if you had a family member in your business and you would give them like the best jobs and you would kind of, you know, whatever, it was the opposite for me. I got like all of the worst treatment and he was really cruel and mean to me. Anyway, the point being, it was it was fuel for me in a positive manner my whole life. I knew that when I did my business and my leadership that I would be the exact opposite of my uncle. And that that's what came to me, came to mind for me. I I really do work well with a chip on my shoulder. I want to disprove that that's the only way, I think, is how I see it. I don't know. Tracy Hill: I love it. I know I love it. Laura: Well that Tracy Hill: I mean go ahead, Laura. Laura: that kinda relates to the episode that you haven't watched. There were two amazing quotes that I caught. And one Sara Frasca: Cool. Laura: was from Voltaire, who's a man, yes, a French dude. But it was perfect is the opposite of good. Sara Frasca: Wow. Laura: Yep, that was one that they talked about. And the other one that was from Mark Twa Twain is attributed to it, but continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection. Tracy Hill: Yes Sara Frasca: Wow. Tracy Hill: I have heard that one before. Yeah. Sara Frasca: That's amazing. Laura: So I'm like, okay. I literally wrote them down on my phone last night. I'm like, those are two good ones of like, all right, you know, you can draw wisdom from them. And Tracy Hill: Mm. Laura: if we used appropriately, I think it it was it was certainly right for the episode when you watch it, but yes. Sara Frasca: Yeah. Okay, speaking of another quote that I thought was good, Ted says embarrassment is such a useless emotion, it should be embarrassed about itself. Tracy Hill: I like that. That's a Sara Frasca: The shame that like embarrassment Laura: Same. Sara Frasca: comes from shame and like shame should be ashamed. Tracy Hill: There's no shame should be ashamed. Laura: Yeah. I like that. He's Sara Frasca: Me too. Laura: he's right. Sara Frasca: I thought that was a lot of power. Tracy Hill: Yeah. But I think that's what makes him such a great leader, right? Because Laura: Yeah. Tracy Hill: he invites an alternative perspective on pretty much all of the stereotypical emotions, feelings, drives, and so forth. And he could makes it so relatable and simple that every single person can understand instantly. Yeah. Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: Yeah, I I do find to that point that the smartest people, in my opinion, in the world are the ones that can speak clearly enough that everybody understands. And so I love the fact that Ted can reach my thirteen year old, me, you know, you guys. It's like it's a it's such a simple way of speaking and connecting. Like my shirt, be a goldfish. Like that's a Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: that's a good mantra. Laura: How many episodes are there in this season? Sara Frasca: I don't know. Yep. Laura: Probably Google that. and then will there be a season five? Tracy Hill: Golly, I hope so. Sara Frasca: Me too. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Yeah. I know. Laura: Please. Let's start it. Let's start the Sara Frasca: Okay, Laura: the chant. Sara Frasca: I I have a gossipy question. Tracy Hill: Okay. Laura: Okay, yeah. Sara Frasca: Okay, of all the relationships in the show, which are you cheering for or which are you happy are done? Tracy Hill: well n I mean, can it be past relationships? Cause I really loved when Sam and Rebecca were together. I loved that. They were just Sara Frasca: That was sweet. Tracy Hill: so sweet. There was just warmed my heart. But if it has to be a current relationship, candidly, I love Higgins and his marriage to his wife. When he what were the it the very first episode when Ted was like, Okay, ten seconds to tell what you've been doing in the last and the thing that comes to mind for Higgins is my wife gets beautiful and more beautiful every single day. I'm like Laura: Yeah. Tracy Hill: I'm done. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: It's so sweet. Yes. Tracy Hill: Love it. Laura: I actually think it's the relationship Sara Frasca: Hmm. Laura: between Ted and the beard. The coach. Yeah. Yep. I think, Sara Frasca: Coach Beard, Ted, their friendship. Yeah. Laura: yeah, I just think when they were apart and then, you know, when he decided to go to the women's team, like he didn't care. Tracy Hill: That was fun. Laura: It was like it was all about being with his person. Not in a Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Tracy Hill: Mm. Laura: weird physical way, but just more of like he needed Ted. And he needed Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Laura: that motivation. So I was like, for him to like, Nope, I don't care. I'm giving up the fame and glory of the men's team to go help Ted with the women's team. I thought that was great. Sara Frasca: Sweet. Laura: And then my subtle metal favorite is Keely and Roy. Sara Frasca: Do you think they're gonna get back together? Laura: I think so. Sara Frasca: You do. Okay. Okay. All right. Tracy Hill: What about you, Sara? Sara Frasca: I don't Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: know. I mean, I haven't watched the most recent episodes, so I'm kind of wondering who Roy is dating. I think it's the doctor, but don't tell me. And I don't know. I think there is something poignant to the fact that she said, I want you to go date other people. I want you to experience yourself with others and others with you so that you have a better comparison. Which ultimately I don't know that we have the data, but I think it means that Roy hasn't really had a lot of serious relationships. It's just been one night scans and whatever, kind of, you know. So I think Keeley's point is like you have to get to know yourself through getting to know other people. And I feel like while it was sweet and special, and I don't know that they are like the perfect couple necessarily. So I'm kinda like, well, I hope they just both end up being happy. Laura: Well, I do like how the writers like when she said go on ten dates, like he did what, three or four in one night. I Tracy Hill: Yes. Laura: don't think that's really like experiencing, you know, Sara Frasca: That was cute. Laura: hooking up with someone Tracy Hill: Mm-hmm. Laura: or not hooking up or whatever. Like, yeah. I I think he just Tracy Hill: Yeah. But here's Sara Frasca: Like let's go. Laura: he missed the point. Tracy Hill: Here's the question though, Laura, just to put it out, you know, devil's advocate, if it if Roy was a female and the female had to do the ten dates and did like three or four in a day, would we, you know, as individuals see it in the same vein? Or would we be like, Mmm Laura: Yeah, I I I would 'cause I'd call her out 'cause like the intention, what Tracy Hill: Yeah. Laura: Keely meant, which went over his head of like experience other women Tracy Hill: Yeah. Yeah. Laura: not sexually or like, you know, four in one night, whatever it might be, totally went over his head. And so like that's the point. And so if it was a woman or a man, done matter. Like, Tracy Hill: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Laura: you miss the boat. Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. I also think it's a funny play on kind of like the typical rom com of like boy gets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back. Because it's flipped. It's like girl Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: had boy, then she let Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: him go. Now she doesn't have him anymore. So I'm curious if if it'll come back around, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Laura: Then she she had a girl. And then she now yeah. Sounds interesting. Yeah, for sure. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sara Frasca: I do love how the show kind of puts all of humanity out there, like every combination, like family relationships, siblings, parents. I I love that aspect. I think it offers a lot of fodder for me to talk about with my kids, you know, kind of, yeah, I love that. Laura: Sure. I think though got it back to us and TWG, it's like that women's club is exactly who we are. Tracy Hill: Mm. Laura: Of like trying to make a new club, getting to know each other, calling some things out, but at the end of the day, they're doing what they love. Sara Frasca: Mm. Laura: So in some ways, I'm like, okay, let's get them on this show. Or let's go, let's go to Richmond and see a game. Or Matt. Sara Frasca: I'll go. Tracy Hill: Let's go to London. Laura: Or yeah. Why not? Tracy Hill: Let's go. Yep. You know that there is a Ted Sara Frasca: All right. I love it. I love it. Tracy Hill: Lasso tour, right? Laura: Yes, I've heard of it. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Jackie did it. My sister. Sara Frasca: No. Okay. Tracy Hill: So Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: Okay. Well, I'm Laura: And I I do want to pitch they need a different mascot. Not that I don't love a greyhound, but like, come on. England, bulldog, perfect. Sara Frasca: You would you would pick a bulldog. We all know that. I mean Laura: Eye sidebar. Sara Frasca: there's also an English Springer, which I've had. Those are great dogs. Laura: Okay, yeah, sure. Sara Frasca: Ha ha ha Okay, how about I wanted to ask you, how cute is the relationship between Rebecca and Keely? Tracy Hill: Mm. I love it. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: I mean, so supportive of each other. You Tracy Hill: Yeah. Sara Frasca: know, the interesting thing, it it blends a lot of lines because it's also boss and employee. but they're friends, they're colleagues. I mean, from a kind of like a celebrity perspective, they both kind of have a lot of clout and a lot of followership. Laura: But did you know that I don't know if it's Keeley's in real life, Keeley's husband or boyfriend, Rebecca introduced them. Used to be like a driver. Tracy Hill: No way. Laura: Yeah, a driver for Rebecca in wherever London, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Sara Frasca: my gosh. Tracy Hill: I didn't know that. Sara Frasca: that's so fun. Wow. Huh. Yeah. That's so neat. Tracy Hill: Hmm. That is really neat. I didn't know that. Laura: Yes. So back to your point of like they true it seems like they genuinely like each other on and off screen. Yes. Sara Frasca: The scene that I'm thinking of right now is when they're just kind of snuggled up in bed together and they're laughing and crying and just kind of like doing the like I mean I feel like in that moment I'm like, I hope every female out there has their person that they can like be really dumb with, be funny with, say all the things that are scaring them or upsetting them. And like there's no judgment. Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: It like gives me goosebumps because it's like there, it's like such a safe place. Ugh. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Laura: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Laura: One can only hope. I mean, whether it's Sara Frasca: Yeah. Laura: a man or a woman, but that you have your person. And, you know, I think these two just can relate really well because they are two women. And they're kind of the same juncture in life of like both are single, neither one has kids, both Sara Frasca: Mm. Laura: are trying to figure out the relationship side, successful in their careers, working Sara Frasca: Right. Laura: in a man's world. I mean, there's a lot of things that bring them together, just on a different levels, which I think is great. Sara Frasca: Have you guys ever done the laugh cry? Tracy Hill: Yes. Sara Frasca: yeah, me too. Tracy Hill: yeah, for sure. Yeah. You're laughing so hard. Sara Frasca: You have it, Laura? What? Laura: No. What do you mean? Sara Frasca: I mean like if you know you know. Like like an emotion so strong that you can't figure out if you're laughing or crying. Tracy Hill: 'Cause you're literally doing both. Sara Frasca: Right. Laura: I probably Tracy Hill: Yeah. Laura: say I was I probably cried and then laughed. Or like of happiness. So kinda like when Emily got married and was walking down the aisle. I was laughing and Okay. All right, well then not the same. No. Sara Frasca: That's sweet, but not the same. Tracy Hill: No. Sara Frasca: I mean, I remember like doing what they were doing in their little bed in that little snuggle moment as best friends with my mom. And my mom was like, I can't tell if you're laughing or crying. And I was like, I'm both. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: And I can remember, you know, just like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing. It's just this outpouring of emotions. So kind of cute. Yeah. Tracy Hill: That's precious. I love that. Sara Frasca: Yeah. Laura: You know, I think we should talk about like why are we doing this episode? Like why do how do we get the inspiration to do it? I mean I know we talked about a little bit how it's there's similarities, but just really why. Tracy Hill: What do you think? Laura: I think it's weaving, you know, obviously super popular. You know, one could say, you're just trying to ride their coattails, but it's like weaving the similarities of this show into kind of what we talk about all the time. you know, and people's journey. They just happen to be a footballer team in in within the context of a show. We happen to have women for the most part so far that have gone through this. either by themselves or if they've had a tribe or buddy. But I think that's probably why. And then also too, I love the humor. Like, they're not too serious. And I I think that that was that I like that. Because we're not too serious either. That's the title. Tracy Hill: I think one of the other parallels building on what you said, Laura, is the the leadership aspect. The fact that, you know, ted we talk about being a leader in life and in business, right? Especially as a female. Laura: Mm-hmm. Tracy Hill: but I think that Ted's external demonstration of what a sincere, authentic heart first leader is in his personal life and professional life is just so powerful that he personifies what we talk about on a bi weekly basis with our guests and amongst ourselves on a daily basis. So I think it's just powerful 'cause it brings, it brings it down into a a level that we as well as our listeners can can relate to. Laura: Totally. Sara Frasca: I think my answer would be that as I was starting to watch this season, the themes that they were showcasing were so poignantly connected to the themes that we are talking about. It was like they're saying in a different way everything that I feel like we are trying to bring to life. How to how women need to help each other, how women need to see and lean into their own power, how you know, having a voice doesn't mean, you know, being mean or putting someone down or even or sometimes it just means saying your truth, even, you know, if it's hard. I I just I really feel like, you know, again, there's a reason that Ted Lasso is going down this train right now. I think the world is cognizant for maybe the first time in my lifetime, maybe, I don't know, in like a very popular and very forward facing male-led show where it's like, let us show you what actually happens on the ground floor of and in this case it's a sports team, but it is in the business community at large. I really think that there are not a lot of men in the world who lean into the topics of again, I'm gonna just use the term feminism, which is at its essence kind of like, how do we exist as People not leaning into any like type or component of our existence, but just as like people. Not the gender, not the age, not the place we live, not our sexual orientation, like just our skills, our drive, our ethic, like work ethic, all the things that we do. Are we the best person for that? Laura: And it's and given their viewership numbers, it's working. Right? Sara Frasca: Yeah. Laura: They're doing all right. Sara Frasca: Okay, I got a hot take for you. is that I think coach Alice, is that her name? Is gonna play again. Tracy Hill: Is or is not? Sara Frasca: I that's my hot take. I think she is going to come out of the break and I think she's gonna play again on the team. Do you remember how Roy came out of retirement kind of? And Jamie Tracy Hill: Yeah. Huh. Sara Frasca: Tart kind of came back. And people have like come back from I think Laura: Maybe. Sara Frasca: she is in a almost like a mental crisis, like some mental health, like kind of a not a what are they what would that be called? Like a like she can't figure out who she is. She's in a little bit of an existential crisis of like who am I? And I think the footballer in her is going to come back. And I think she had left for an injury and anyway, that's my idea. We'll see. Okay. Laura: Time will tell. Sara Frasca: Time will tell. Tracy Hill: Yeah, for sure. Sara Frasca: All right, wanna go to the the the quick round? What's it called? Laura: Yeah. Tracy Hill: Lightning the quick round. Laura: Lightning run. Quick run on lightning. Yeah. Sara Frasca: It's an it's a British term. No. Just kidding. Laura: okay, sure. Sara Frasca: Just kidding. Tracy Hill: Ha ha ha. Laura: All right, favorite a favorite quote from the show. We've we've talked about Tracy Hill: From the show. Laura: Yeah. Sara Frasca: Yeah. Laura: I think the one I Sara Frasca: That one. Laura: the one on from last night. Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection. Keep trying. Keep trying. And you might not ever get to perfect, but keep trying. Keep keep improving. Sara Frasca: Great. Laura: how about your Sorry, I was gonna go to Sara Frasca: My favorite sorry. My favorite of all time goes back to the episode where he's doing the darts and he says, like being curious and not judgmental. Tracy Hill: Yeah. Sara Frasca: I think that type of openness and vulnerability and I mean it if we had that in the world, we would have way less problems. So Laura: Hmm. Yeah. Tracy Hill: One of my favorite scenes. Yeah. Sara Frasca: Me too. Tracy Hill: Yeah. That in the Christmas episode. Sara Frasca: Mm. So fun. Tracy Hill: Yeah. I'm sorry, Laura. I don't remember a specific quote. I can tell you scenes that I love, but Laura: All right, well, that's okay. Tracy Hill: I mean I could look at Lo Sara's shirt and say, be a goldfish. Laura: Yeah. There we go. Here you go. All right, we're at we're when we go to England, we're at the English pub. What do we drink? Tracy Hill: Mm-hmm. Mm. Sara Frasca: Mm-hmm. Tracy Hill: a pint. Pint of Sara Frasca: Totally. Tracy Hill: laga. you Laura: Of what? They all like. What kind? Tracy Hill: gotta have a British beer. You gotta have Pilsner or I mean Guinness is I know, I Laura: That's Irish, but yes. But anyway, I'm playing it. Tracy Hill: know, it's Irish. I'm trying to think. My dad used to drink one. Laura: I'm doing a snake bite. Do you guys know what a snake bite is? Tracy Hill: Yang. Guinness and harp. Are you doing cider? Laura: Well, I do mine with logger lager and cider. Tracy Hill: Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think it's a black Sara Frasca: That'd be fun. Tracy Hill: and tan is Guinness with harp. Those Laura: Black and tan. Yeah, I think you're right. Tracy Hill: are good. Laura: My favorite English food. Tracy Hill: Plowman's. Do you know what a plowman's is? Sara Frasca: I don't even know what that is. Tracy Hill: Yeah. It's like their pub version of like a charcuterie but it's you know, British meats, British cheeses, some Well no, it's called Branson Laura: Weird pickles. Tracy Hill: bagels. I grew up on this sub, Laura. Come Laura: Yeah. Tracy Hill: on! Sara Frasca: Ha ha ha Tracy Hill: But it's it's the spread if you will, that they'll utilize with the cheese and the meat and the French bread. and it's lovely with a good pint. It's great. What about you? What's your guys' favorite? I mean Yeah. Yeah. yeah. On the chips? Okay. yeah. The Laura: Clearly. Fish and chips, man. Gotta. With malt vinegar. Must. Yes. And on the fish, all of it. Yep. Tracy Hill: whole thing. Mm. Sara Frasca: Being a vegetarian, I'm at a little bit of a disadvantage, but I would say my mom always made a shepherd's pie for me, which just had all the veggies, and so I would say a vegetarian shepherd's pie. Tracy Hill: Have you ever had a Yorkshire pudding, Sara? Sara Frasca: I'm sure I have because my my grandmother was Scottish. So I kind Tracy Hill: Okay. Okay. Sara Frasca: of feel like pudding was in the realm, but I don't I was young. it is? I'ma say no then. I don't think I have. Darn. Tracy Hill: It it's not it's bread. Yeah, like it's breadish. I'm gonna I'll send it to you afterwards. Yeah. Okay. Laura: There you go. Well we need to go. Tracy Hill: I know. Literally. Yes. Sara Frasca: Yeah, I'm sign me up. I'm in. Yep. And I will have my British citizenship soon, so. Uh-huh. Yep. Tracy Hill: See, there you go. That's Laura: There you go. Awesome. Tracy Hill: fantastic. Sara Frasca: Okay, well, this was really fun. Laura: Well, listeners, it's been fun. Send your Ted Lasso favorite quotes or favorite episodes or segments Sara Frasca: Yes yes. Laura: and a challenge for the Keely and Rebecca's of the world to come on tits with grit. Sara Frasca: Yep. Tracy Hill: Mm. Sara Frasca: I mean, specifically we want Rebecca and Keely on the show. We want to talk to Laura: Yeah. Yeah. Tracy Hill: We take Ted Lasso too. I mean if Jason's Sara Frasca: I mean maybe for Wiener Week. Maybe. Maybe for Wiener Week. Laura: He could be he could be on wheel or waiting. He has to wait. Can we back up first? Tracy Hill: He has to wait. Sara Frasca: We're not done talking to the women yet. He's just gonna have to be patient. Laura: Yeah, exactly. I agree. Sara Frasca: But I do think that we should send them a copy of Tits Wit and Grit, which comes out. Very soon. Okay, a signed copy. Tracy Hill: Yep. Signed Laura: Yep. And Keely a tank top, 'cause she'd rock it. Yeah. Tracy Hill: copy. Yes. Sara Frasca: great idea. Love it. Okay. Well, I'm glad Tracy Hill: Yep, perfect. Sara Frasca: we got to break this down. I think we should do a post season four recap. Laura: Yes. Sara Frasca: bring it all home. But this was a Tracy Hill: Totally. Sara Frasca: great start. And if you're not watching the Ted Lasso season four, highly recommend. Tracy Hill: Totally. Laura: And believe. Sara Frasca: Yeah. absolutely. And if you have something that's bothering you, just be like a goldfish. Let it go. That's it for today's episode of Tits, Wit and Grit, where bold women, big ideas, and a little bit of fearless attitude collide. Tracy Laskos: If today's conversation sparked something for you, share it with someone who needs it and make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss what's coming next. Laura Raether: Remember, show up with confidence, trust your wit, and never underestimate the power of grit. See you next time.