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Who Doesn't Love Some Good Ol' Fashion Race Manipulation?! | Charlie Marlow Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  All right, we are live. What's up, everybody?
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  Charlie Marlowe here talking about the Charlotte Roval.
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  I love this race. I want to hear from all you
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  guys. And I was surprised.
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  I just looked at the Jeff Glock poll and only 57% of folks liked
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  the Charlotte Roval, over 10,000 votes.
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  I was surprised by that. And we're going to get into
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  everything. Playoffs, playoffs, race
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  manipulation. I'll tell you what, I myself, I
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  like a little good old fashioned race manipulation that we saw
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  there at the end. I thought it was very, very
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  compelling TV. All right, let's start like
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  this. First of all, I was checking in
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  with the race here and there at the beginning, throughout the
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  stages. I think most people thought knew
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  the way it was going to go down, did go down.
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  SVG, of course, if he doesn't have a major blow up, he's not
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  just winning these Rd. courses, he's running away with these Rd.
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  course races. Five in a row now.
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  But that wasn't really the story.
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  Maybe it should be SVG wins by what, 15 seconds?
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  And here's where I like the playoffs and I want to hear from
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  you guys. I know a lot of you don't like
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  the playoff system, you don't like the format.
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  You want to go back to a 36 race points championship?
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  I get all that. I'm not totally against that.
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  I wouldn't mind seeing it now. I don't like the one race finale
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  either, but I love the playoffs for what we saw yesterday.
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  I thought that was must watch TV at the end, the last 10 laps or
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  so. That's why the playoff format
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  was instituted. Cut off races are usually
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  really, really compelling. That's one reason if you go back
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  3-4 weeks, I didn't love that Bristol race and I I talked
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  about it on the live stream here.
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  It wasn't just all the yellows at Bristol.
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  That was a cut off race and there was no cut line drama.
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  I think a lot of fans who are more casual fans really TuneIn
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  to the cut off races knowing you're going to see some
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  hijinks. That's what I put there on the
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  on the thumbnail, playoff hijinks.
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  And that's what we got. Look, when you're watching the
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  last 10 laps, last 8 laps, last 7 laps, 5 laps, whatever it is,
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  and you're seeing there the plus minus and you're seeing Ross
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  Chastain and Joey Logano and how many spots that Logano had to
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  make up. I thought the broadcasting crew,
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  Lee Diffie and all them did a really good job of explaining,
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  hey, how many more people can Ross Chastain pass or get passed
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  by? How many more cars do you think
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  can Joey Logano pass? You had all the manufacturer
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  hijinks going on. That was one of the big stories.
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  Afterwards. You probably seen the video
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  where Denny Hamlin's talking to somebody saying like, I didn't
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  know. I didn't know what Joey Logano
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  needed. I wouldn't have passed him.
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  It was Noah Lewis who put that clip out there.
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  So Denny Hamlin clearly didn't know what what Joey Logano
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  needed. And so he essentially insinuated
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  and we put the clip on our YouTube here from Matt Weaver.
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  Matt Weaver does a great job covering all these races where
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  Denny Hamlin said, if I'd have known, I would have done what's
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  best for me. So think about that.
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  He's he's saying, look, even though Ross Chastain and track
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  house had more speed this year, you know that Joey Logano is
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  more dangerous. We all know that.
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  There's a reason Joey Logano has won two championships in the
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  next genera. Penske has won all three
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  championships in the next genera.
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  They have the set up on lock already at Phoenix and everybody
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  knows Joey Logano is more dangerous than Ross Chastain.
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  All due respect. When you get into the final
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  eight and potentially a final four, I thought that was
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  hilarious that Denny Hamlin essentially said, I can't wait
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  to hear on his podcast. Also actions detrimental because
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  it was clear if you read lips, he said I wouldn't have passed
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  them. But there was a lot of that
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  going on. At one point yesterday, last lap
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  or two, I don't know if you guys saw this, but if you remember at
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  one point Alex Bowman gets right to the bumper of Ross Chastain
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  and it looked like he could have tried to pass Ross Chastain.
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  Obviously both Chevy's, Alex Bowman is out of it.
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  You have the the engine sharing program with track house and
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  Hendrick and Chevy's and all that.
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  It looked to me like Alex Bowman really didn't try to pass Ross
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  Chastain there. And then of course, final turn,
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  Ross Chastain does what Ross Chastain's going to do.
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  He does anything he possibly can to try to get by.
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  He had to. And you know, I, I give Denny
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  Hamlin a lot of respect too, because Denny Hamlin said in his
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  interviews afterwards that he doesn't fault Ross Chastain at
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  all. He, he knew that at that point,
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  Ross Chastain is going to do everything in his power for his
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  team, for his manufacturer to try to get in the round of 8.
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  So he just drove right through Denny Hamlin.
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  They both spin the iconic picture.
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  That's why I love the playoffs. That moment, these moments would
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  not have happened at all. And I know you have arguments on
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  the other side. People might call it gimmicky
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  and all that. First of all, any playoff format
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  in any sport, it is manufactured moments.
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  You are manufacturing drama, but people like drama.
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  And the other argument that there's a lack of superstars in
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  NASCAR, which I agree with. Now, to me, there's a big
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  difference between the tier of superstars.
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  You can make the argument that NASCAR has no superstars right
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  now. And when I say a superstar, I'm
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  talking about somebody who transcends racing.
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  And we always use the old adage of could that person be on
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  Saturday Night Live hosting Saturday Night Live?
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  And I know there's not many guys that could do that, but if
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  you're talking about Dale Earnhardt, senior, junior in
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  terms of Q rating, Jeff Gordon, I think you can make the
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  argument that there's not one superstar in all of NASCAR.
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  Kyle Busch not winning anymore. I mean, Denny Hamlin, big
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  personality, Kyle Larson, I don't think any of these guys
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  are superstars, but there's a lot of stars.
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  And that's where to me, the playoffs created the focus on
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  instead of SVG, who give him all the credit in the world, best
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  Rd. course racer in a couple generations in NASCAR by far.
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  You got to go back to to Dan Gurney in terms of how many
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  races he's winning versus how many races that he's started.
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  But look, Ross Chastain is a star.
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  Joey Logano, whether you like him or not, is a star.
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  Danny Hamlin is a star and you had tons of drama at the end
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  there between some some of the biggest names in NASCAR trying
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  to get into the round of eight. And like I said, Chastain Logano
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  and Denny Hamlin right there in the mix.
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  I just thought it was really, really good theater.
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  And again, I'm watching there on USA and there's been a lot of
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  different angles of this, but the slow motion angle they
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  played at the end right after the the checkered flag that
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  showed Ross Chastain going backwards.
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  I mean, this is straight out of Ricky Bobby almost Ross Chastain
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  going backwards right after Joey Logano goes past the checkered
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  flag forward. And and look, Joey Logano didn't
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  have to finish ahead of Ross Chastain to get to the round of
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  eight. It was it was down to spots, but
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  still he did. I was just looking at the the
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  running order. It is kind of funny because so
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  much focus is on the guys that finished 21st and and 20th.
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  Logano finished 20th in that race, Chastain 21st.
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  And so I, I think I'll, I'll look at the standings, but I
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  think it was just just Stenhouse.
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  Stenhouse finishing ahead of Chastain was the was the deal
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  breaker there. Either way, Joey Logano had the
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  tiebreaker. So Joey Logano's in.
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  We all know Joey Logano's dangerous, but I'm going to hear
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  from you guys as well. But I don't know, I just
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  watching that race. I probably don't even I'm just
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  being honest because I love NASCAR and I watch almost every
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  race. Now if if I wasn't in the
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  business of NASCAR in terms of making content with Kenny, I
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  don't know if I would have tuned into that race.
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  Honestly. I always follow it on on X.
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  I'll check in. If that's not the playoffs
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  though, and you see that SVG is trending towards a 15 to 18
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  second win, are you really tuning into that?
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  Unless you know there's going to be some cut line drama, which
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  there was, which totally delivered.
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  And again, I was critical. Bristle didn't have any cut line
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  drama whatsoever in the round of 16.
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  Getting to the round of 12, we had fantastic cut line drama,
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  even though it was only between two guys.
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  It was only one spot, but that was enough.
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  That was enough to compel me at least to be glued to my
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  television for the last 10 laps of that race.
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  So look, the whole argument about play offs versus full
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  season points, I still don't think they're going to go to
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  full season points. I wouldn't be against that.
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  I think it'd be kind of interesting to try.
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  Hell, everything's up in the air for 2026 anyway.
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  If you're ever going to go back to a full season points, you
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  might as well just try it. Just if NASCAR even said, look,
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  we're going to try it for 2026, see what happens, I don't think
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  anybody would be mad about it. See, see what the ratings are
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  like. By the way, I'm interested to
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  see again what the ratings are like for the Rovo, because
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  NASCAR has been losing about what, about 20% of its playoff
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  audience from this year to last year?
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  And there's a lot of reasons for that.
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  I know people are bringing up the NFL, but that was against
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  the NFL last year. Now, if you want to make the
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  argument that the NFL is growing while other sports are
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  shrinking, and also the fact that NASCAR has lost a lot of
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  their network races, they have so many races now that are on
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  USA. So is that responsible for a
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  fraction of the viewership loss? I will give you that.
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  I know a lot of people don't like the playoff format.
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  I still think it's more about the car.
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  It's more about the car than the playoff format.
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  And we've done tons of polls on that.
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  And all the polls show that you guys, not just me, not just my
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  opinion, but you guys are much more frustrated.
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  Even if you're frustrated with the playoffs, you're much more
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  frustrated with the Next Gen. car then you are the playoffs.
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  But I'm going to get to your your questions and comments as
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  well. So it'll be interesting to see
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  what those ratings are like because again, the Jeff Glock
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  poll, only 57% of you guys like that race, which is pretty low.
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  And that's surprising to me. I wonder also if if part of
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  those results are the fact that you guys are over the row Volt.
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  And I get that too. I thought it was cool at the
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  end, don't get me wrong, as I've been critical of the Next Gen.
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  car since I mean, the first year that we started doing this with
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  Kenny was the first year of the next Gen. car.
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  And it's it's painfully obvious, especially the last couple years
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  that this car is built for intermediates.
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  It runs so good at Kansas, at Charlotte on the Oval.
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  We're not calling Michigan an intermediate, but it was so good
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  at Michigan. Darlington puts on a great show.
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  And so I think a lot of people are saying we're kind of over
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  the Roble deal over the Roble. It's hard to say that over the
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  Roble say that five times fast. We want to go back to a second
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  Oval race at Charlotte. I totally get that argument.
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  I actually agree with you folks if you're thinking that way.
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  But still you have to play the the hand you're dealt.
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  And at this point we got the Roble.
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  And so we knew they were racing at the Roble and I thought it
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  was unbelievable. But, but also, I understand if,
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  if you're saying I don't like the playoff format and it was
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  only a great finish. Look, I, I'm, I'm not lying to
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  you folks, I checked in. I'm seeing SVG run away with it
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  this and that. But I, as I'm checking my phone
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  and making sure I'm following the progress of the race, I, I
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  had to sit down for that last 10 laps and it did not disappoint.
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  And I'm really, really glad it did.
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  And again, that's why I like the playoff format.
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  I don't think it should be a A1 race finale, but I like the
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  playoffs and I think in 2025, you have to have some semblance.
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  In my opinion, you have to have some semblance of a playoff
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  format to try to get these. ADDADHDI say that with love
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  younger generation of folks who are just looking for any reason
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  to click off the TV. So that's my take there.
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  I feel like I hit everything that I wanted to get to.
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  And then here's another thing. What do you guys think of the
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  concept of race manipulation? I have to say, I, I, I kind of
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  like it. To one person, it's race
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  manipulation. To somebody else, it's
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  gamesmanship, right? It can't be blatant.
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  We saw that last year with the Christopher Bell and William
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  Byron deal at Martinsville. That's another thing where look,
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  if we have a three or four race finale for the play offs moving
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  forward, there is going to be a lot of manufacturer
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  manipulation, gamesmanship, whatever you want to call it
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  going on. Even even Logano, what Logano
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  yesterday said something about Gillan passing him.
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  Every spot matters. And if you're not in the play
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  offs and you're a Chevy and a Chevy needs to get in or you're
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  a Ford and a Ford needs to get in Toyota, whatever it is, you
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  know, that's going to happen. It's almost like how can they do
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  it in a way that it doesn't look blatantly obvious?
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  And that's where Paul Wolf said this.
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  Another great video on the channel here courtesy of Matt
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  Weaver. He's like Paul Wolf basically
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  said, you know, I get it. I get it if if you're kind of
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  right there with the guy and you don't want to just balls to the
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  wall do anything to pass him and maybe wreck him, wreck yourself,
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  I get that he goes. But if you're, if you're one or
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  two seconds faster and you're not passing the guy, if you're
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  essentially just pulling over on the side of the road, that is
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  race manipulation and you're not really racing at that point
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  anymore. But I think that adds to it.
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  I really do. We've always had that.
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  We've always had team play at superspeedways.
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  Again, it can't be super blatant.
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  We've seen that in past years with Penske.
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  We've seen Logano the year that Blaney won the championship,
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  right? Logano blocking for Blaney.
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  I, I think that's kind of all part of the fun of racing, to be
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  honest with you. And I understand if some of you
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  don't like it. I just think it adds a lot of it
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  adds a lot of drama to the situation.
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  So 16 minutes in here, 111 of you watching live.
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  I appreciate that. Let me check YouTube real quick
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  and I'm going to get to your comments.
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  I'm going to get to your questions.
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  I love the robo. I thought it was really, really
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  fun. By the way, I did not do a live
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  stream last week. Kansas is my favorite track
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  also, but I was on the road. I was watching the Cleveland
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  Guardians play baseball and so again, I'm following the race on
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  my phone and all that, but I didn't really watch Kansas.
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  I was out of town, I was travelling, so I didn't want to
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  get on and do a live stream and pretend like I really watched
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  the race when I didn't. So I took the week off and we're
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  back and I'm glad because the Roval was fantastic in my
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  opinion. All right, 481 of you watching
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  so far in the last 17 minutes or so.
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  Appreciate that 107 of you watching live.
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  All right, let's get to some of your comments.
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  All right, King Solomon Racing Network.
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  Hello, Hello, Solomon. Our guy Nick from London always
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  checking in. He says please interview Jeff
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  Hammond. I don't know if you saw Kenny
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  did interview Jeff Hammond yesterday.
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  Kenny was at the Roval for Trackside Live and really good
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  little 3-4 minute clip. Jeff Hammond talking about the
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  fact that in 1985 he was the crew chief for for Darrell
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  Waltrip going against Bill Elliott, where Bill Elliott wins
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  11 races, doesn't win the championship.
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  Darrell Waltrip three wins, but much more consistent, which
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  again is playing into this whole narrative, which is I think a
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  really important discussion in the NASCAR ecosystem right now,
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  which is the playoffs, right? Wins versus consistency and all
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  that. So this is going back 40 years.
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  Really good. By the way, Jeff Hammond doesn't
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  age. I think he's 6869 years old.
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  The fact that that was 40 years ago and he was a crew chief at
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  whatever age, that was 2829 for him.
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  Impressive. Nick says, I love the play offs.
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  Me too. Let's see.
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  Jesse says blah blah blah blah blah blah and he's telling me to
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  shut the F up. So guess what, Jesse?
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  Guess what, Jesse, I'm going to put you in a timeout.
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  How do you like that? I just put you in a timeout.
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  I can do that here on stream yard and YouTube.
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  If you say shut the F up, OK, I'm not going to, I'm not going
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  to take that. Let's see.
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  TJ says Denny effed up. I put your comment up.
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  I just don't want to put the F word up just in case.
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  And I like swearing. No, me wrong.
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  We're trying to make money here, so I'm not going to put the
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  swear word up just because I want to monetize this live
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  stream, OK? I'm just being honest with you
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  guys. Let's go, Charlie.
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  Thank you. Jeffy, please help Randy Travis
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  get better soon. Is that the the singer?
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  Let's see, TJ said. Would you rather race against
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  Ross or Joey in the next round? Dumbass.
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  Are you calling me a dumbass or you calling Denny Hamlin a
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  dumbass? Look, Denny Hamlin said he
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  didn't know. I believe him.
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  He said his his spotter, his crew chief, they weren't telling
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  him the details clearly. I mean, he said in that video by
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  Noah Lewis. You can check it out on Twitter.
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  He's like, I wouldn't have passed him.
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  So I, I, I can't wait to hear what Denny says, how he explains
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  that on actions detrimental. Let's see fish head Viking love
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  that name. I love it.
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  I love racing and it's grown on me.
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  I just can't constantly bitch about everything anymore.
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  It's exhausting. I I get that.
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  I also, I know people call it bitching and whining, but to me
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  it's also it's just discussing the sport and I think whether
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  you're for it or against all these different things like
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  NASCAR is at an inflection point right now.
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  They they really are. There's so many things hanging
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  in the balance with the sport. Really kind of what it means to
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  be NASCAR, the lawsuit, the playoff format, the Next Gen.
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  car, trying to attract old fans, the the classic fans again,
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  trying to reach younger fans. These are kind of existential
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  questions that NASCAR is all facing at the same time.
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  And all these questions are going to be hanging the balance
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  this offseason. It's going to be the most
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  fascinating winter in in probably NASCAR history.
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  Let's see, Fish head, Viking says.
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  Me and my son were there yesterday as Logano fans and we
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  were pumped. Let's see, we got here we go
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  dink 90. I wish they would do a random
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  draw and fans can pay an extra dollar to enter when they buy
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  tickets and they pick one lucky fan to wave the green flag.
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  That would be so awesome. That's a pretty good idea.
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  I like that. Or maybe at least like the you
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  could kind of start out. Green flag waving is pretty
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  important. Maybe you could do some flag in
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  there, like at a stage caution, something like that.
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  Poor, poor Denny. Yep, TJ says Denny always chokes
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  in the play offs. Look, I want Denny to win.
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  I've said that I've been very consistent.
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  I'm a Denny Hamlin fan. I think he's good for business.
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  I think he's the most interesting person in NASCAR,
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  not just on track. He says interesting things.
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  The fact that you have a podcast from a current driver who is as
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  forthright as Denny Hamlin is and he's always in the mix.
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  He's always in the middle of everything.
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  And then the next day or two days later, whenever it is, he
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  comes on his podcast and explains everything to you
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  folks. All these really interesting,
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  super dramatic moments. Look, I, I think you're going to
• 21:39
  miss that in a couple years. If, if Denny Hamlin retires in
• 21:42
  two years, three years, whatever it is.
• 21:45
  If you're a fan of media and podcast, I think you're going to
• 21:47
  miss the fact that you had a big name driver who is so honest in
• 21:51
  a podcast like Denny Hamlin. And that's whether you like him
• 21:54
  or not. And I've had a lot of people
• 21:56
  I've seen comments that say, you know what?
• 21:57
  I'm still not a Denny Hamlin fan necessarily.
• 21:59
  I don't root from on the track, but I love his podcast because
• 22:02
  it's so interesting. Nick says Jeff Hammond deserves
• 22:07
  an excellent interview, a long form interview.
• 22:09
  I agree with that. NASCAR needs the play offs.
• 22:11
  TJ disagrees. Nick is always trying to bring
• 22:14
  NASCAR to Dallas, but you have you have Texas is only, what, an
• 22:17
  hour away? Let's see Fish head Viking.
• 22:21
  When Hamlin doesn't win the play offs they say he chokes in the
• 22:25
  play offs and can't get it done. When Logano comes in clutch and
• 22:27
  wins the cup play offs and they say he's cheating and it's not
• 22:30
  fair. I don't think anybody ever says
• 22:33
  he's cheating. The argument that I don't even
• 22:38
  think the argument is it's not fair, it's fair.
• 22:41
  Everybody plays by the same rules.
• 22:43
  I think the argument is, is it the best way to crown a
• 22:46
  champion, which I even agree it's not.
• 22:49
  I think you at least have to have three or four races at the
• 22:52
  end, not just one, but also you got to give Joey Logano.
• 22:56
  Not just Logano by the way, how about Paul Wolf?
• 22:59
  Is Paul Wolf arguably the best crew chief in the game?
• 23:02
  How many times does Paul Wolf either win a race or help Joey
• 23:07
  like yesterday advance in the play offs when they don't
• 23:11
  actually have the speed to do it or they they shouldn't have the
• 23:14
  speed to do it. Ross Chastain was faster than
• 23:18
  Joey Logano yesterday. Now you can also make the
• 23:20
  argument and and Ross Chastain admitted this.
• 23:23
  Ross Chastain had a ton of unforced errors.
• 23:27
  What pit Rd. speeding He went he went past the the line there on
• 23:33
  the turn 33 critical errors from Ross Chastain.
• 23:39
  So. So really, Ross Chastain is the
• 23:42
  one that put Joey Logano and Paul Wolf in the situation to
• 23:45
  steal that race at the end. If if Ross Chastain only has one
• 23:51
  mistake, 2 mistakes probably he's in the round of eight and
• 23:55
  Joey Logano isn't. But give Paul Wolf credit on the
• 23:59
  call. And again, that guy, it seems
• 24:01
  like he is a real advantage there on the pit box.
• 24:06
  He's a guy that adds value 100% to his driver so give him all
• 24:11
  the credit in the world. Let's see.
• 24:14
  Modern safety in a Gen. 4 would be awesome.
• 24:17
  Nick wants new management for NASCAR.
• 24:21
  TJ saying 4 different types of race tracks and 36 races just
• 24:25
  divided evenly. You want.
• 24:27
  But you want that many Rd. courses If you're talking about
• 24:30
  superspeedways, intermediates, Rd. courses, and short tracks, I
• 24:36
  get that. But you're not You're not.
• 24:38
  Nobody wants right? Nobody wants 9 road courses.
• 24:41
  I would even subtract a road course right now.
• 24:44
  And until you figure out the racing in the next Gen. car on a
• 24:48
  temporary basis, I would shift back to more intermediates.
• 24:50
  I'd hey look, I'm biased. I grew up going to Michigan
• 24:54
  International Speedway. I covered Michigan International
• 24:56
  Speedway for two years in O6O7. I'd give the second race to
• 25:00
  Michigan back right now the way it is right now with the Next
• 25:03
  Gen. car. Michigan was awesome.
• 25:06
  And if we're going to all kind of admit that T VS more
• 25:08
  important than than fans of the track, I'd give Michigan another
• 25:12
  race until you figure out until you figure out the race ability
• 25:16
  of the next Gen. car. That's what I would do.
• 25:19
  Let's see, Denver Thurston says SVG is going to force cup field
• 25:24
  drivers to right brake on road course.
• 25:27
  SVG is showing old school braking is way better than left
• 25:30
  foot braking on the road course. Yes, that heel toe, the fact
• 25:34
  that he has he has the precision of braking and cornering down to
• 25:38
  an absolute science and he's so much better at any than any
• 25:43
  other cup driver. It's crazy.
• 25:46
  Joshua Roberts says, Charlie, what's up, Josh?
• 25:50
  Let's see, we got we got Sammy, Sammy 5927 weighing in.
• 25:57
  It's the box they are in. Drivers are forced to manipulate
• 26:00
  the playoff races. That's true.
• 26:03
  That's true. Jesse was banned.
• 26:07
  Jesse, I just gave you a time out.
• 26:08
  You can come back if you're playing nice, buddy, whenever
• 26:10
  your time out is over. How about that?
• 26:16
  How about the power I wheeled with my little mute button?
• 26:19
  But I'm only muting him because he was AD head, OK, Alexander
• 26:25
  Stegall says. Personally, as a Hendrick fan, I
• 26:29
  watch the playoffs not fearing Kyle William or Chase loses the
• 26:32
  cup, but I find myself hate watching for the Penske cars to
• 26:34
  get eliminated ASAP. Pro full season points.
• 26:37
  I get that. How about also the fact that we
• 26:42
  always talk about parody? How about parody Schmerity?
• 26:46
  Look who's in the round of eight.
• 26:47
  And I understand Track House almost got in there with Ross
• 26:50
  Chastain. It's the big boys.
• 26:52
  It's the big boys. The biggest of the big boys.
• 26:54
  Hendrick gets three cars in. The second biggest of the big
• 26:58
  boys, I think it's fair to say, is JGR, even though Penske's won
• 27:02
  more championships lately. JGR gets three cars in and then
• 27:06
  Penske. Penske gets two cars in.
• 27:10
  You got to think at this point it would be an upset if there's
• 27:14
  not at least one Hendrick car, at least one JGR car and one
• 27:19
  Penske car in the in the round of four.
• 27:22
  So probably one of those manufacturers or one of those
• 27:25
  teams is going to get 2. I mean, they have to get 2, one
• 27:29
  of them has to get 2. My point is, you know at least
• 27:32
  one Penske car is going to be slipping through to the Final
• 27:35
  Four and they got to be the favorite.
• 27:38
  I don't care if it's Logano, I don't care if it's Blaney.
• 27:40
  They got to be the favorite until you beat them at Phoenix
• 27:45
  Christian Budd. Somehow we are told that the old
• 27:47
  drivers were the greatest that ever drove but simultaneously
• 27:51
  didn't race hard because they just rode around collecting
• 27:54
  points. Let's see.
• 27:57
  Steve Blake. I can't stand Kyle Busch, but I
• 28:00
  wish he would win a race. I like Kyle Busch also.
• 28:04
  I think he's good for business. That's another thing that stinks
• 28:06
  about Kyle Busch. Kyle Busch not winning means
• 28:10
  you're not hearing from him as much.
• 28:12
  You're not seeing him in the in the Media Center as much lately,
• 28:16
  which by the way, he's getting funnier.
• 28:18
  He's getting funnier and funnier as he gets older.
• 28:21
  You see the the videos he does with his wife where nothing's
• 28:25
  off the table. They're talking about his sex
• 28:27
  life and all that. And I mean pretty funny stuff.
• 28:30
  I remember the the first year we did this was 22 and that's where
• 28:34
  Kyle Busch, not only was he winning races his first year
• 28:38
  with Richard Childress, but also, OK, so I have the timeline
• 28:43
  wrong. So 2022 was the year, his final
• 28:48
  year with Joe Gibbs where he was in the Media Center, if you
• 28:51
  remember almost every week because the the whole story of
• 28:55
  that of that season was where is Kyle Busch gonna end up?
• 29:00
  And so every week of the Media Center, there was a new
• 29:03
  storyline of where Kyle Busch could end up.
• 29:05
  And then the following year is when Kyle Busch ends up at at
• 29:12
  Richard Childress. So I may have the exact, I may
• 29:15
  have the exact timing incorrect on that, but you know, you know
• 29:18
  what I mean. I think this is what this is
• 29:21
  Year 3 for Kyle Busch at Richard Childress.
• 29:24
  By the way, how about Alexander Steagall hooking us up with a
• 29:31
  super thanks 20 bucks appreciate that under a full season points
• 29:36
  format, if Joey backs into a win in a late race demo Derby like
• 29:41
  Texas 25 and Nashville 24, it's unfortunate, but life goes on.
• 29:47
  But under this win and you're in format, You know exactly what
• 29:50
  that means. Yes, Thank you again, Alexander.
• 29:53
  Is it Steagall? Steagall, appreciate the Super.
• 29:56
  Thanks. And also, hey, we have a members
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• 30:01
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• 30:12
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• 30:16
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  that we have on the channel, but don't ever want to think you
• 30:23
  have to do that because look our channel is free.
• 30:26
  All you have to do is watch some ads on YouTube every once in a
• 30:29
  while. Our channel is 100% free.
• 30:33
  All right, trying to go back here and get some more comments
• 30:37
  here we go Let's see do do do do do Sammy 5927.
• 30:42
  I have a feeling in the next three races, Larson wins and
• 30:47
  Bell wins. So coming up, what is the
• 30:51
  schedule here? Obviously you have Vegas, you
• 30:55
  have Talladega and you have you have Martinsville before the
• 31:02
  finish. Let's just double check that I'm
• 31:06
  99.9% correct on that. Yeah.
• 31:09
  So you have Vegas coming up on Sunday.
• 31:13
  That's a 5:30 Eastern Time start.
• 31:16
  You have Talladega, where you never know what's going to
• 31:19
  happen at DAGA. That's the following Sunday,
• 31:22
  2:00 PM Eastern Time start. And then you have Martinsville
• 31:25
  on October 26th, also a 2:00 PM Eastern Time start to to get the
• 31:32
  final eight down to the Final four, the Elite 8 to the Final
• 31:36
  Four. Are we not allowed to say that?
• 31:38
  Is that something that's trademarked by college
• 31:40
  basketball? I don't care.
• 31:42
  But yeah, I mean, historically, Larson is so good at Vegas.
• 31:48
  Talladega is obviously a wild card.
• 31:52
  Denny Hamlin runs really, really well at Martinsville, does he
• 31:55
  not? I have to go back.
• 31:59
  Let's look at these races this year.
• 32:01
  I know historically, Kyle Larson has been amazing at Vegas, but
• 32:05
  let's just go this year's races, all right?
• 32:09
  Just hang with me here, OK? So Josh Berry won at Vegas this
• 32:17
  year. Let's look at the let's look at
• 32:19
  the results, though, just to see who else.
• 32:22
  And I don't remember who wrecked out and all that.
• 32:24
  It's a long time ago. But Vegas this year, I want to
• 32:29
  see who had the most laps LED. So Joey Logano LED 40 laps at
• 32:35
  Vegas. Kyle Larson LED 61.
• 32:38
  Austin Sindrich LED 47. So you look at the Fords there,
• 32:43
  Josh Berry won it. Sindrich LED 47 laps and Logano
• 32:49
  LED 40 laps. Tyler Reddick LED 34 laps.
• 32:54
  But that was a pretty good track for Fords.
• 32:57
  So the Penske cars have something to look forward to
• 33:00
  coming up for Vegas. And then Talladega, clearly more
• 33:06
  of a wild card. Syndrich won that race and in
• 33:11
  that race. Let's see.
• 33:13
  I feel like early on this year, the Penske cars, especially
• 33:16
  Blaney, they led so many laps early on.
• 33:20
  So Talladega Logano LED 24 laps earlier this year.
• 33:25
  Who else? Ty Gibbs LED 32 laps.
• 33:28
  Chase Briscoe LED 20 laps. That was kind of a mixed bag.
• 33:34
  But if you look at most laps LED besides Ty Gibbs, Chase Briscoe
• 33:39
  leading 20, how about Anthony Alfredo?
• 33:42
  But Joey Logano, there's that man again.
• 33:45
  He led 24 laps at DAGA. He could absolutely win
• 33:49
  Talladega. We all know that.
• 33:51
  And then let's go to Martinsville.
• 33:54
  Now I'm just looking at this year, folks.
• 33:56
  Again, I know Kyle Larson historically is really, really
• 34:00
  good at at Vegas. So there you go, right?
• 34:09
  I just want to go through make sure I'm not missing anything.
• 34:11
  Make sure I'm not missing anything, folks.
• 34:13
  Going through the schedule. DTT 222.
• 34:17
  I don't know why I was thinking, so Martinsville only has one
• 34:20
  race. I don't know why I was thinking
• 34:21
  Martinsville has two races. So I'm not going to go back to
• 34:25
  2025 or 2024 to check out Martinsville.
• 34:29
  But you know Martinsville, Denny Hamlin's good at Martinsville,
• 34:33
  so on and so forth. OK, let's see.
• 34:36
  TJ says Denny is good for being honest.
• 34:39
  He just chokes in the play offs. You do not like Denny David
• 34:43
  Smith. Hamlin's great hate him on
• 34:46
  Sunday, but love him every other.
• 34:50
  Let's see fish head, Viking says.
• 34:53
  I see people say Team Penske is cheating everyday all around the
• 34:56
  track and online forums. What do you mean by that, by the
• 35:00
  way? I'm I'm just going to check
• 35:01
  'cause I want to see who won 2024 Martinsville.
• 35:05
  I can't Remember Remember Martinsville the year of the
• 35:08
  Hail Melon. Everybody thinks everybody kind
• 35:11
  of remembers Ross Chastain, but he did not win the race.
• 35:14
  It was C Bell that won that race in walk off fashion to get in to
• 35:21
  get into the round of 4. So 2024 cookout 400 at
• 35:25
  Martinsville. Let's see.
• 35:28
  I'm trying to find the. So Kyle Larson qualified first
• 35:32
  last year at Martinsville and what do we got?
• 35:37
  Kyle Larson won the first stage last year.
• 35:39
  Denny Hamlin won the second stage last year.
• 35:43
  Final results. William Byron.
• 35:45
  Look at this. Hendrick went 1-2 and three.
• 35:48
  I forgot about that. Hendrick goes 1-2 and three at
• 35:52
  Martinsville. Last year with Byron, Larson and
• 35:55
  Elliot, you had Blaney and Logano finishing 5th and 6th.
• 36:01
  Briscoe finished 10th. Obviously it was in a Ford with
• 36:06
  Stewart Haas Racing at that time.
• 36:08
  Denny Hamlin finished 11th, but Hendrick Hendrick had it at
• 36:13
  Martinsville last year, finishing 123, Byron Larson,
• 36:16
  Elliott. So if you're kind of just going
• 36:19
  historically at the next 3 tracks, I think it's fair to say
• 36:23
  Vegas you're usually given the nod to Kyle Larson.
• 36:29
  Although Fords were pretty damn good this year.
• 36:32
  Talladega we know is a complete wild card.
• 36:34
  Very good chance a non playoff driver wins Talladega.
• 36:38
  But the Fords have been really good at Daga as well.
• 36:42
  And then just based it on Martinsville, Denny Hamlin
• 36:45
  always runs well at Martinsville, but last year
• 36:49
  Hendrick goes 1-2 and three with their drivers with Byron Larson
• 36:56
  and Chase Elliott, the three guys that are still in the play
• 36:58
  offs this year. So Bing bang boom.
• 37:02
  I didn't really mention besides Hamlin, I didn't really mention
• 37:06
  the Toyota's much there. But we know Siebel.
• 37:09
  Siebel can win on any of these tracks.
• 37:11
  Briscoe the the way they're running can win on any of these
• 37:14
  tracks. Denny Hamlin can win on any of
• 37:17
  these tracks. It's going to be a lot, a lot of
• 37:18
  fun. All right, let's go back to the
• 37:21
  chat. Back to the chat.
• 37:24
  Let's see. Let's hide that.
• 37:29
  Here we go. Mark D hated Denny and Kyle
• 37:32
  Busch back in the day. Now I'm pulling for both of
• 37:34
  them. Perfection for me is Kyle
• 37:36
  winning a race this year and Denny the championship.
• 37:39
  That'd be fun. I would root for that for sure,
• 37:42
  J Bond says. I know a lot of people really
• 37:44
  can't stand this format. I agree.
• 37:46
  It's not the best way to crown a champion and it needs tweaks.
• 37:49
  I really like the idea of 6 drivers for four final races.
• 37:53
  I like that. I wouldn't argue with that.
• 37:56
  TJ says I'd rather race Ross in the next round as opposed to
• 38:00
  Joey. JGR dropped the ball.
• 38:03
  I agree. Paul Wolf done the same with
• 38:06
  Brad Keselowski. Yeah, Paul Wolf is elite at his
• 38:09
  job as a crew chief. He's really, really good.
• 38:12
  He's he's a value add, as they say.
• 38:16
  Not sure if that is even an option, but I like that format
• 38:19
  tweak. Paul Wolf, brilliant, brilliant
• 38:25
  fish head. Viking says he slipped up and
• 38:28
  Wolf and Logano took a chance pitting at lap 10 and that made
• 38:31
  the difference. Yes, it did.
• 38:32
  Michigan and Kansas are awesome to me.
• 38:35
  Again, I've really only paid close attention for the last
• 38:38
  four years. To me, Kansas year in, year out
• 38:40
  for two races is the best racing on the track and I think
• 38:43
  Michigan is right up there. Michigan is right up there for
• 38:46
  sure. And that's not me being biased.
• 38:49
  I promise. OK, let's see, We had Jetta bug.
• 38:54
  If Ross would have cut the last turn on the last lap and went
• 38:56
  through the grass to pass Denny, how would the stop and go
• 38:59
  penalty go if he passed the start finish line right?
• 39:03
  The stop and go penalty was the other one where he made three
• 39:07
  big mistakes. Ross did.
• 39:10
  Nick says NASCAR needs more female drivers.
• 39:13
  So what do you got, Catherine Leg, You got Tony Breidinger?
• 39:16
  They're doing what, ARCA and a truck race every once in awhile.
• 39:20
  Wasn't she doing trucks this past week?
• 39:21
  I believe Let's see Kyle Busch and run trucks and win that
• 39:27
  Triple Crown. Well, he said he's going to try
• 39:28
  to win. He's going to try to win the
• 39:30
  Truck championship, run one season of trucks right when he's
• 39:34
  done with Cup, and then his son Braxton can run some trucks and
• 39:41
  then the next year they split the schedule.
• 39:42
  He said that a couple years ago. That's his plan.
• 39:45
  Let's see. Denver Thurston says.
• 39:48
  Austin Sindrich said that the reason he's going to race in
• 39:50
  Supercars later this year 'cause he wants to learn the SVG way
• 39:53
  and race with drivers that SVG competed with in the past to
• 39:57
  learn from them as well. That's cool, Wallace McKinney
• 40:01
  says. Me myself, I think Kyle Bush
• 40:03
  should go back to the Truck Series where the Truck Series
• 40:05
  championship. Win the Truck Series
• 40:07
  championship, then he'll be the only one that has a championship
• 40:10
  in all three series. Yup, just said that I agree.
• 40:16
  I hope #17 will win. 17's Butcher.
• 40:20
  Right? I should know that I should know
• 40:23
  that. Let's check.
• 40:25
  Butcher's another guy who, if you go by the Winston Cup
• 40:29
  format, he's like a top ten guy and didn't even make the frickin
• 40:35
  play offs, didn't even make the play offs.
• 40:38
  Play offs. Where's Buscher?
• 40:43
  I'm still, I'm still learning every single number.
• 40:46
  OK, Yeah, Buscher finished fourth, by the way.
• 40:51
  Finished fourth yesterday at the Rowville.
• 40:55
  All right, we got Ken Simpson. Playoff format only increases
• 41:00
  race manipulation. NASCAR should forget about
• 41:02
  casual fans and go for hardcore fans that spend money and go to
• 41:05
  the tracks and understand the strategy.
• 41:08
  I get that. I think you need, I think you
• 41:10
  need both. I'd consider myself
• 41:12
  traditionally a casual fan and the playoffs get me more
• 41:16
  interested. I think there's a lot of people
• 41:18
  like me. Let's see.
• 41:21
  Christian Budd says, not sure if you can use it.
• 41:23
  MLB got mad at Tony Stewart for the Midsummer Classic talking
• 41:26
  about the Final Four for NASCAR. Let's see, we got Mark D says.
• 41:34
  Hated Denny and Kyle Busch back in the day.
• 41:37
  Now I'm pulling for both of them.
• 41:38
  Perfection for me is Kyle winning a race this year and
• 41:40
  Denny the championship. Did I already read that or did
• 41:45
  you send that in twice? I know I read that already.
• 41:49
  Fish Head Viking. I literally don't even know what
• 41:52
  they mean by that. That's why I'm confused.
• 41:54
  I can't remember what this is about because I'm now I'm 6
• 41:58
  minutes behind on the chat. I like to get my opinions out
• 42:01
  there first and then read your guys.
• 42:03
  So I apologize. I'm behind.
• 42:05
  Impossible for Kyle Busch to win the Triple Crown now.
• 42:09
  Why is that? He could win trucks if he if he
• 42:12
  does a season of trucks here. Yeah, not right now.
• 42:15
  He's talking about when when Kyle Busch retires from Cup, he
• 42:18
  said he's going to run one full season of trucks to try to win
• 42:21
  that elusive championship. Let's see, we got the random guy
• 42:27
  age Bush needs a super license and needs at least a few years
• 42:31
  of lower open wheel racing to even be able to drive an F1 car.
• 42:38
  OK, let's see. Oh, Triple Crown, I got you.
• 42:43
  OK, when I hear Triple Crown, I think of Andy Lemons and Monaco.
• 42:48
  I got you. We were talking about Cup,
• 42:51
  Xfinity and Trucks. Yep all good.
• 42:54
  Christian Budd says since you are a newer fan or returning at
• 42:58
  least, do you find the point system easy or hard to follow?
• 43:01
  You talk about currently I think it's pretty easy to follow.
• 43:05
  I think the play offs are pretty easy to follow if if you just
• 43:08
  TuneIn I think the broadcast they do a good job of explaining
• 43:12
  during the cut off races. I think Lee Diffie does a really
• 43:14
  good job explaining the play off situation.
• 43:17
  I like the play offs. I understand again the argument
• 43:22
  about there's less focus on the superstars or the guys winning
• 43:25
  the races. But again, to me, Logano and
• 43:29
  Chastain, they are stars. And one of those guys got in the
• 43:33
  round of 8 and Logano and one of them didn't.
• 43:35
  And those were two star drivers. And a lot of the focus was on
• 43:38
  that, which to me was way more interesting.
• 43:40
  Let's be real, way more interesting than SVG winning a
• 43:43
  race by 15 seconds. And I give SVG all the credit in
• 43:47
  the world, but we've seen him win five straight now.
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  And I don't want to say been there done that, but like SVG
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  was a great story couple years ago when he wins the Chicago St.
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  course race. He's a great story now, but he's
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  almost so dominant that he's made it boring.
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  If there wasn't a playoff format yesterday, that race to me would
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  have been a snooze fest. Let's see, TJ says, how about
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  the original Chase format? 10 races to rule them all.
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  I'm, I'm down with that too. I think NASCAR should try it all
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  right now again, NASCAR, NASCAR, I don't want to say it's a
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  crisis, but they're at a point where they should try anything
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  and they should see how it works.
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  And, and you might say it's Bush league.
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  I would be cool if NASCAR did a season, a full season points the
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  next year, go back to the Chase, do a year of 3 or 4 for the
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  final round. And honestly, see, I don't call
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  that a gimmick if if everybody knows what the deal is before
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  the season starts, see what it looks like.
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  See how the fans show up at the tracks, see how the fans watch
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  on TV, see how the ratings reflect all that.
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  I think NASCAR is in a is in a weird spot.
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  It's not a great spot to be in, but it's also a spot where you
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  can experiment. And I don't think fans will be
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  mad about that. I don't care if some people
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  criticize him. You might.
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  Oh, it's a garage. Like, no, the fans, the fans are
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  kind of asking for change. So run a couple different
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  formats and see whatever works best.
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  I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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  I I would be totally cool with that.
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  If you want to next year go 3 or 4 races for the final round and
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  then you want to do a full season points and then you want
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  to do a 10 race chase for the next three years, try them all
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  out and see what happens. I would be totally cool with
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  that. I think that would actually be
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  smart if NASCAR did that and see basically again how fans respond
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  at the tracks and on TV. So there you go.
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  TJ says try something other than A1 race championship.
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  I agree with that wholeheartedly.
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  All right, we have 88 of you watching because the 88 car of
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  SVG won yesterday at the Rowville.
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  We will shut her down right there.
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  Nick says good idea. Thank you, Nick for chiming in.
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  I appreciate that. I appreciate all of you guys
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  chiming in. Thank you again, Alexander
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  Steagall for the Super thanks. We'll show them up there one
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  more time. We already we already answered
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  his question, but we really appreciate the Super thanks and
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  thank you all for for watching. Let's check how many watched on
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  You are looking live. How about total 1037 of you have
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  also on Kenny Wallace media. All right, Charlie Marlowe
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  signing off. I'm going to do a couple more
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  just because couple more came in, Edward Way says too many TV
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  services needed. I get that.
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  I get that. That's kind of a lot of sports
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  now, unfortunately. But I feel your pain.
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  Denver Thurston as an outsider looking in my playoff picture, a
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  top 20 with a wild card elimination race at Daytona to
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  decide the top 16. No win and you're in.
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  I like that, Lenville says. I hope Denny gets his
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  championship out of the way. If you were for or against
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  Denny, he can drive the car. That is so true.
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  TJ says take care of everyone. We'll end on that.
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  TJ, thank you. Thank you everybody.
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  Charlie Marlowe signing off, Thank you so much for watching.
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  Love you all end stream.