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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Are We Making Things Too Difficult? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  what's going on everybody
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  welcome to sunday sunday
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  sunday night crossfit talk
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  guys I just watched the end
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  of the masters and I am all
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  pumped up and I'm ready to
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  go um after all day yard
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  work day and then getting
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  to watch the end of that
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  masters and I don't even
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  watch a lot of golf but it
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  was so much fun to watch
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  Yeah,
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  we were watching at dinner and you
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  had to tell me the result
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  because I only got to see
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  the playoff up to the second shot.
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  So I didn't see their putts.
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  So I needed to know who won.
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  Yeah, so, you know,
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  I've told everybody in the
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  lunch shows that I've been
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  watching Full Swing, and because of that,
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  I've really fallen in love
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  with Roy McIlroy because of
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  what I learned about him
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  and how he stepped up in
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  certain situations for the PGA.
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  And so he was leading coming in,
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  started the day off by
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  losing a two-stroke lead
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  and being down one, like, in two holes.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then he came back,
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  and so it ended up on the
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  eighteenth hole.
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  He was up by one stroke.
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  Right.
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  All he had to do was par to
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  win the Masters, and he missed the putt,
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  and it went into a playoff.
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  Yep.
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  And so goes into a playoff,
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  and on the first hole of the playoff,
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  both guys hit tremendous tee shots.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Second shots were both on the green,
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  relatively close to the hole.
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  And then Justin Rose had to
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  two-putt from there,
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  leaving Rory with the
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  opportunity for one putt to
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  win the Masters.
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  And he does it on the first
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  hole of the playoff to
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  complete the Grand Slam
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  after an eleven-year wait
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  of the third component.
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  So after he won the third of
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  three Grand Slam events,
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  it took him eleven years to
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  get the Masters to finish it.
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  And nobody else has taken
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  more than three years to
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  finish it who has done it.
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  So it was pretty cool.
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  I've seen so many clips of
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  the kids and the wives
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  hitting tee shots and putts and stuff,
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  and I thought that was really cute.
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  There's been some great
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  shots out of these kids and
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  Andrew Sten,
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  I thought Rory was going to
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  choke completely.
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  Very happy you won, though.
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  Yeah, it was.
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  One thing I've learned
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  watching full swing is like
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  the pressure on these guys
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  in the final holes of these tournaments.
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  Everybody chokes a little.
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  It's just who's going to choke the least.
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  Right.
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  Because the pressure is just insane.
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  And the money is insane.
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  I can't even imagine.
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  What did they win for the Masters?
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  That's the biggest one of them all.
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  It's got it.
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  So in full swing after every tournament,
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  when they show you the
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  prize money and some of
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  them are like five, six,
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  seven million dollars.
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  But if you finish like third,
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  it's like five hundred grand.
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  So the drop from win to like
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  down is pretty far.
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  Right.
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  But in the,
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  in the first season of full swing,
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  Rory wins the FedEx cup,
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  which is like the big PGA
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  championship at the end of the year.
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  That's.
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  Eighteen million dollars.
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  And that was four years ago
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  when the first season of
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  full swing came out.
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  Let's see what they win this time,
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  but in insane and so much like that's,
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  what's awesome about sport, right.
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  Is like the best golfer in
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  the world can choke.
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  Oh yeah.
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  And, um, yeah.
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  And so at least I got that
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  with a win with Rory
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  because my Pirates have
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  lost to Andrew Sten's Reds
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  all weekend long.
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  We got swept.
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  It was horrible.
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  It says here four point two
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  million for the Masters winner.
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  Pretty good payday.
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  Second is two point two six eight.
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  Third is one point four two eight.
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  A tenth place is five
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  hundred and sixty seven thousand.
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  We did the wrong sport.
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  Yeah.
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  I would choke for sure.
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  When you've tried eight of them,
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  golf wasn't one of them.
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  No.
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  Um, so yeah, um,
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  before we get into a couple other things,
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  um, bracket winners,
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  I I'm going to make the announcement, uh,
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  that the female women's,
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  the women's bracket
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  challenge for Clydesdale media,
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  the winner was Jamie Latimer.
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  And then I put my wrong
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  bracket in the men's.
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  I won in my other group with
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  my men's bracket.
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  I don't know what I did.
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  I submitted the
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  a second bracket in, in yours,
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  I would have,
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  I would have won in the men's also.
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  Well, on the men's side, Brett Owsley, um,
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  master's athlete,
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  forty to forty four year old division.
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  He ended up winning on the
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  men's side of the bracket.
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  Um, so who is the best average?
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  Uh, it's probably you.
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  Probably you.
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  I took second in the men's.
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  I took second in the men's,
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  but when Juju got the knee injury,
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  my women's went in the tank.
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  Yeah.
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  Hey, Lito, are you here?
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  I don't know who Lito is, but okay.
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  And Lynn,
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  we do have the phone hooked up
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  for you tonight.
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  Once we get to the catch up,
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  we will show the number.
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  If people want to call in tonight,
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  you are open to do that.
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  Because we're going to do...
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  A little bit of leaderboard
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  looking for the Masters
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  because we didn't get to do
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  that last week.
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  We're going to talk about
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  the requirements because
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  that's been a hot topic all week.
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  And then we're going to talk
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  about the judging fiasco
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  that happened at Mayhem.
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  And that took me forever to
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  find the evidence on all that.
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  And I finally have it all.
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  But what went down there.
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  And then we're going to do
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  ask Jamie and Carolyn questions.
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  Cool.
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  And then we'll wrap it up
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  with WFP and French
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  Throwdown being the same
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  weekend and the impact
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  that's already having.
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  And what could that mean for the future?
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  Copa Sur is next week.
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  We'll knock that out now.
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  And then William Leahy got married.
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  So congratulations to him.
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  But we've not been able to
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  talk about this for a couple weeks.
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  And Julian is asking,
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  do you guys talk about Reacher finale?
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  We're going to talk about it right now.
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  Let's go.
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  You two are going to talk
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  about it because I have no idea.
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  You're missing out, man.
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  So the Reacher finale
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  happened two weeks ago now.
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  And it's been insane.
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  Insane what happened to me
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  in the last two weeks.
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  But Reacher was the least of my concerns.
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  But it ended up being a
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  typical Reacher finale.
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  And that...
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  high energy, high action, the whole bit,
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  everything you tune into
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  Reacher for with a nice
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  little twist at the end.
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  What were your thoughts, Ms.
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  Latimer?
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  I liked it.
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  I was curious how they were
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  going to get it all wrapped up.
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  Yeah, I liked it.
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  I liked the fight scene with
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  the big guy and Reacher.
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  I mean, that needed to come to a head.
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  So I enjoyed that.
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  And I liked how it ended.
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  Very comically and very efficiently.
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  Yeah.
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  And then.
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  Yeah.
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  And in every episode,
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  I think that he deserves to
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  be with the romantic
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  interest in the season.
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  Yeah.
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  And it spoiler alert, it never happens.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  Um,
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  and this season it happens for a
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  different reason than typical.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, which is kind of, yeah,
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  he didn't have to say his usual spiel.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  Uh,
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  but I think she was the favorite of the,
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  of the,
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  all of the romantic interests he's
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  had been my favorite and all the seasons.
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  Yeah.
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  I liked her.
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  So, um,
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  we had another finale this
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  season or this week and
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  that was the pit have you
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  seen it yet I haven't seen
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  this week so I watched last
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  week's I have not gotten to
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  this week's unfortunately
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  dang it well you hadn't
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  watched last week so I
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  would figured you'd be
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  behind all caught up all
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  kind of yeah I can't wait
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  to see the finale of pit so
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  what I'll say is like it's it ends
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  not how I expected oh boy
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  and not in a bad way I
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  think it was a after
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  contemplation I think it's
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  the right way to end the
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  season okay um and I
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  actually saw an interview
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  with noah wiley where he
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  kind of explains it and
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  once you see it we'll talk
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  about a little bit more but
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  I think it was the
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  appropriate way to do it
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  but I don't want to have any
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  spoilers because it's only
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  been a couple of days.
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  So I want to, I'll leave it.
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  I'll leave it out there for
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  people to watch the pit
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  finale in case you are
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  following along with the rest of us.
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  But wow,
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  that was one of the best shows
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  that's been on TV in a long time.
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  It's been a good year for television.
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  Landman was awesome.
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  Pit was awesome.
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  Reacher three.
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  And I'm sure there's going
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  to be a Reacher four.
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  And now there's going to be
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  a spinoff of Reacher with,
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  I can't ever remember Neely.
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  Neely is getting her own
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  spinoff show which is the
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  only other character that
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  appears in every season of
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  Reacher other than Reacher
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  himself and Pit is supposed
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  to season two is coming out
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  in like January they're
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  filming here coming up at
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  like June I saw yeah the
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  writers are already
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  together yeah working on it
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  that's awesome it will
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  leapfrog ten months into
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  the future and happen on
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  the July fourth holiday oh boy
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  hear I hear that's a crazy
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  uh er day well I can
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  imagine how many fireworks
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  explosions we're gonna see
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  right yeah it's just dumb
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  drunk who knows you know
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  grilling stupid mistakes
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  like um probably boating
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  more drowning oh uh kenneth
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  the lab said reacher should be a monk
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  He is not a monk.
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  No.
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  Far from that.
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  He does not cuss.
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  He does not swear, but he likes his women.
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  He does.
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  And he likes to, to beat people up.
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  Yeah.
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  So, all right.
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  I think that's anybody,
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  anything else going on this
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  week guys that you guys had,
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  do you want to share?
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  I saw something from Caroline.
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  Oh, Caroline, Carolyn, Carolyn,
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  not Caroline.
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  Carolyn,
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  you did a workout today with a two
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  hundred double unders in it.
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  Yeah.
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  How did that go?
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  uh not bad so both sets I
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  stopped myself at a hundred
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  which is also better than
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  what I normally do um it
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  was like a hundred then I
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  tripped up at a hundred and
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  sixteen and then finished
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  all the way to two hundred
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  and then the second round I
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  also stopped myself at a hundred
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  And then I missed that
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  eleven reps after that.
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  And then again,
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  finished at the two hundred.
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  So pretty good for me.
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  But I could start feeling
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  like my right shoulder getting fatigue.
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  And normally if I'm
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  practicing my double unders,
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  I stop myself there because
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  here comes my.
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  bad habits coming back.
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  So for the purpose of the wad,
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  I kept going.
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  Uh,
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  but I didn't like the way that like my
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  right shoulder was getting
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  fatigued because I'm working on, like,
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  I'm just working harder from that side.
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  Um,
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  but still a big improvement from where
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  I normally have,
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  like normally when I do two hundred,
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  like when two hundred
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  double unders would be
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  programmed in a workout
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  before it would take
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  regular athletes that I
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  compete against less than two minutes to
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  or around the two minute mark,
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  but most of the time,
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  less than two minutes.
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  And I would be four minutes.
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  Like I was always double.
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  So like if it was a hundred,
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  it would take me two minutes, two hundred,
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  four minutes.
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  And I was like two minutes
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  and like six seconds.
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  So not too far behind where
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  I am from my competitors for that.
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  So I was happy with that.
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  But yeah, it was a good workout.
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  That's awesome.
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  Like it was not a good workout,
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  but it was.
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  needed yeah instead uh lynn
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  says gay carolyn so age
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  group semifinals ended last
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  week we talked about how
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  you guys did um and the
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  video and there was no
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  leaderboard last week when
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  we finished the show right um
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  And you guys both ended up
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  in a qualifying position
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  for the CrossFit games.
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  Carolyn,
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  you finished in third and the
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  thirty five to thirty nine.
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  Jamie,
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  you finished eighth in the forty to
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  forty four.
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  Correct.
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  Carolyn, that I mean,
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  third is really good and
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  like there's people around
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  you that are really high level athletes.
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  I do not know the person who
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  won the semifinal.
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  She went to the games in and
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  twenty nineteen.
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  OK.
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  um so I remembered her name
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  and she did well in the
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  open this year too so I
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  think that definitely uh
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  definitely good with the
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  body weight stuff like she
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  won both the like I would
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  call them the gymnastics
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  dominant workouts that we
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  had and was also strong so
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  um curious to see in person
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  what the holes will be if
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  it's like machine based
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  more because she does look
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  like she's a little bit smaller
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  of an athlete.
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  So again,
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  we haven't tested running or
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  other type of things that
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  could pop up in person.
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  But I watched your videos
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  and they were legit.
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  So
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  So here is the leaderboard, um,
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  Stevie Dellinger,
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  who a lot of people know
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  from crash one crash last year.
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  Uh, she's right there with you,
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  Christine best, um, Caroline klutz,
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  like in the top ten,
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  those are names that we've
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  heard of before in this,
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  in this division.
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  Um, so you did, you did awesome.
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  And then if we look in the
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  forty to forty four, um,
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  Amanda Cummins, I do not know who she is.
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  She was at the games last year.
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  We know who Andrea Pinheiro is.
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  We know Megan Apostolaris, Hope Cicero,
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  Janine Shingleton.
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  You know her.
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  So these are a lot of people
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  that you saw at the games last year.
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  Yep.
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  But I, what I want to ask you, Jamie,
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  is this is the highest you
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  finished in an online competition.
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  It is the highest I've ever
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  finished in semifinals.
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  I mean, other than the open, right?
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  It's definitely,
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  it's the highest I've ever
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  finished in semis for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  So do you think you're
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  getting better at online competition?
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  Cause Carolyn,
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  you've always been good at
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  online competition.
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  Yeah.
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  Like you've always finished on the open,
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  but you haven't had to do
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  semis on an online basis.
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  Not semis,
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  but like I've had the open
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  matter to go to the games
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  two years in twenty
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  nineteen and twenty twenty.
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  And both of those I would
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  have qualified or like twenty nineteen.
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  I did qualify through the
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  open like that would be
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  technically the semifinals.
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  And then twenty twenty,
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  I had my spot and then lost
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  it with COVID.
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  So if those are like
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  equivalent to like people
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  caring about the open,
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  treating it like a semifinal, then.
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  So, Jim,
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  what are your thoughts now that
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  you've had your best online finish?
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  Do you think you're getting
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  better at the competitions?
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  No, I think honestly,
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  what I think it could be is people.
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  maybe slowed down some of
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  their movement a little bit
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  to make sure everything looked perfect.
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  And then,
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  so people were finally moving the
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  way I always move.
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  Like, you didn't get that.
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  I mean, I tried to look for,
• 17:24
  especially in workout one, the people who,
• 17:26
  like, clean to here and just, like,
• 17:28
  try to cycle it.
• 17:29
  And I think that workout in
• 17:31
  particular almost, like,
• 17:32
  made you not do that
• 17:33
  because it was more about
• 17:34
  the bar muscle-ups than the cleans.
• 17:36
  But, like, that kind of stuff in the past,
• 17:38
  people would just, like,
• 17:39
  cycle a barbell like that.
• 17:41
  Yeah.
• 17:42
  not well,
• 17:43
  like I can't stand claims like that.
• 17:45
  So honestly,
• 17:47
  I just think people were more
• 17:48
  conscious about their movement.
• 17:51
  and it just yeah I thought
• 17:53
  people moved better when I
• 17:54
  was expecting much worse
• 17:55
  like when I was looking at
• 17:56
  the videos I'm like oh
• 17:57
  that's pretty good oh
• 17:58
  that's pretty good and then
• 17:59
  you would look at the like
• 17:59
  needs review and I'm like
• 18:01
  no like that was good like
• 18:03
  I don't see what I was like
• 18:05
  they're actually like
• 18:05
  pausing they're in front
• 18:07
  they're not bouncing like I
• 18:09
  was like expecting people
• 18:11
  to skirt the line there on the queens and
• 18:16
  I was pleasantly surprised
• 18:17
  with some of the movements
• 18:20
  that I saw on some of the
• 18:21
  videos that I reviewed.
• 18:22
  I was like, well, that's good.
• 18:23
  Yep.
• 18:25
  So there's the live call in
• 18:26
  number because Carolyn is
• 18:27
  broached into one of the
• 18:28
  topics I know people want to talk about.
• 18:33
  And that is the review process publicly.
• 18:35
  Do you think that because
• 18:37
  everybody had to make their videos public,
• 18:39
  that made the movements
• 18:41
  better across the board?
• 18:45
  Yeah,
• 18:45
  because you have to be aware of what
• 18:46
  you're, like,
• 18:47
  it's a representation of how
• 18:48
  you move and your
• 18:49
  reputation and everything like that.
• 18:51
  So it's about, I mean,
• 18:53
  that's how I look at it.
• 18:54
  Like,
• 18:54
  you want to be known as someone that
• 18:56
  moves well.
• 18:59
  Like,
• 18:59
  you don't want to be posting videos
• 19:01
  for the first time publicly
• 19:02
  for all of them to see and be like, ah,
• 19:05
  I see what, you know, like,
• 19:07
  it's your reputation that's on the line.
• 19:09
  It's your work that's on the line.
• 19:11
  Like, I think you want to be moving well.
• 19:13
  correctly and have people be like, yeah,
• 19:16
  she's good or he's good and moves well.
• 19:20
  Lana asks,
• 19:21
  have you ladies heard from HQ
• 19:23
  about your reviews of your videos?
• 19:25
  None.
• 19:25
  Nothing yet.
• 19:27
  I know.
• 19:27
  And I know people have
• 19:28
  gotten emails saying,
• 19:31
  like regarding like a video
• 19:33
  not working or judging issues.
• 19:36
  Most of the couple of people
• 19:37
  that I talked to that got
• 19:39
  emails like that.
• 19:40
  Like, I mean, I don't know if Scott,
• 19:42
  you saw Alison's,
• 19:43
  like she got an email from HQ,
• 19:46
  but it was like incorrect.
• 19:49
  Like they were bringing up a
• 19:51
  judge that she didn't even use.
• 19:54
  And there, and so like,
• 19:55
  she had to show like, no, I, these are,
• 19:57
  I mean, I,
• 19:58
  here's my screenshot of what I
• 19:59
  submitted and who I put as
• 20:01
  my judges and that doesn't
• 20:02
  match what you're telling me.
• 20:05
  So that was weird.
• 20:06
  I mean, I've heard of feel like that.
• 20:07
  Well,
• 20:09
  we're going to get into the judging
• 20:11
  thing in a, in a second.
• 20:12
  Yeah.
• 20:13
  Um, so the other thing is,
• 20:16
  so we we've talked about
• 20:18
  how there was a requirement
• 20:20
  for two judges.
• 20:23
  You had to video submit everything.
• 20:27
  I would contend that making
• 20:29
  your video public alone
• 20:32
  corrected a lot of the issues we had.
• 20:34
  Agree.
• 20:35
  Whether people reviewed it or not,
• 20:38
  the internet public were
• 20:39
  going to do that anyway.
• 20:42
  Right?
• 20:43
  Yeah.
• 20:44
  The fear of Hiller reviewing
• 20:45
  your video probably did as
• 20:47
  much as anything else in
• 20:48
  correcting movement standards.
• 20:50
  Absolutely.
• 20:54
  So then we add in,
• 20:56
  so then we add in to judge
• 20:57
  requirement and all this,
• 21:00
  and it had to be in an
• 21:01
  affiliate and the
• 21:03
  complications that came with all of that.
• 21:07
  I know that people this week
• 21:09
  on the lunch show were
• 21:09
  really upset about all of that stuff.
• 21:13
  Um,
• 21:14
  what we've talked about it briefly now
• 21:17
  that it's all over and
• 21:18
  you've had time to decompress,
• 21:22
  what parts would you change?
• 21:28
  so I mean like I think the
• 21:31
  la the public video is
• 21:33
  probably sufficient I I've
• 21:36
  said this to several people
• 21:38
  I think I understand what
• 21:41
  crossfit's trying to do and
• 21:42
  I know like sarah cooper
• 21:43
  was talking the one week
• 21:44
  that I was talking about it
• 21:46
  um trying to push the
• 21:47
  affiliate stuff I get it I
• 21:48
  understand what we're
• 21:50
  trying to do however crossfit doesn't
• 21:56
  like oversee affiliates,
• 21:58
  like that's always been
• 22:01
  business owners run things
• 22:02
  the way they want to run
• 22:02
  things and that's fine.
• 22:04
  I agree.
• 22:05
  But like,
• 22:06
  if you aren't going to force
• 22:09
  affiliates to participate,
• 22:11
  then I don't see how you
• 22:12
  can really force athletes to participate.
• 22:15
  I think that that double
• 22:15
  standard is not okay.
• 22:18
  If I'm not able to just walk
• 22:20
  into a box next door and
• 22:22
  walk in and do it,
• 22:24
  because that box doesn't want to,
• 22:27
  that's a problem.
• 22:32
  Yeah.
• 22:33
  So you've actually had the
• 22:35
  problem of trying to find a
• 22:36
  location that will allow
• 22:38
  you to do workouts in your area.
• 22:41
  So that,
• 22:43
  that further complicated you just
• 22:46
  trying to get your scores in the door.
• 22:51
  The other thing it did to me
• 22:52
  with the two judges and the
• 22:54
  affiliate thing is most
• 22:56
  Masters athletes are working adults.
• 23:00
  And they're trying to fit
• 23:01
  this into their schedule.
• 23:03
  We took away one full day of submission.
• 23:08
  Because last year it was Monday night.
• 23:09
  Now it's Sunday.
• 23:12
  And then basically, if you were lucky,
• 23:16
  you had time for one redo.
• 23:17
  Right.
• 23:18
  And they added one workout
• 23:19
  in comparison to last year.
• 23:20
  Cause I think you guys had
• 23:21
  four last year and there
• 23:22
  was five this year.
• 23:23
  Yep.
• 23:24
  So one more workout,
• 23:25
  one more or one less day for the masters.
• 23:28
  Yeah.
• 23:28
  I didn't.
• 23:30
  You had to schedule three people,
• 23:32
  schedule three people to be
• 23:34
  able to do that.
• 23:36
  Yeah.
• 23:38
  I, I,
• 23:39
  I'm usually a fan of more
• 23:40
  workouts and less time.
• 23:42
  I almost think opening it up
• 23:45
  maybe would take the
• 23:48
  urgency out of it and
• 23:50
  people being willing to
• 23:52
  come in on a Saturday all day.
• 23:54
  People would maybe push, be like, here,
• 23:55
  I have two hours this day,
• 23:56
  two hours this day.
• 23:57
  And that may cause more of a headache.
• 24:00
  as opposed to like I we got
• 24:01
  to do this this weekend we
• 24:02
  basically just need to open
• 24:03
  our doors from eight to six
• 24:04
  p.m and get what we can
• 24:06
  done um so I I kind of
• 24:08
  preferred the time frame
• 24:11
  and I prefer that it's five
• 24:12
  workouts yeah you might
• 24:13
  have to do two in one day
• 24:15
  oh well figure it out well
• 24:17
  the games are gonna have to
• 24:18
  do two or three exactly I
• 24:20
  mean it probably should
• 24:21
  have been forced in order
• 24:25
  which it was that's how it
• 24:26
  was like your password only gave you
• 24:29
  You only had a password for
• 24:30
  the first two workouts and
• 24:31
  then the next two workouts.
• 24:33
  I kind of prefer that,
• 24:34
  although you can still do
• 24:35
  with the second one first.
• 24:36
  So it doesn't really force
• 24:37
  the order per se, just a little bit.
• 24:40
  Um, but yeah, I don't know.
• 24:44
  I don't,
• 24:45
  I don't know that shortening the
• 24:47
  timeframe was the problem per se.
• 24:50
  Like there's sometimes given
• 24:52
  too much time can also be a problem.
• 24:56
  Yeah.
• 24:58
  They could still force the
• 24:59
  order by actually just,
• 25:00
  just sending an email on
• 25:01
  the Saturday of what the password is for.
• 25:04
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  Like that, that's how,
• 25:06
  that's one way you do it.
• 25:07
  You can release the workouts
• 25:08
  on the Monday and then know
• 25:10
  that you have the first two
• 25:11
  or three to submit by the Saturday.
• 25:15
  And then at Saturday at a certain time,
• 25:17
  they email for the second
• 25:18
  password for the last two or something.
• 25:23
  Love a forced order.
• 25:24
  Yeah.
• 25:26
  it's definitely doable it's
• 25:27
  just people that have work
• 25:30
  obligations that could just
• 25:31
  do them all in one day like
• 25:32
  it just facilitates for the
• 25:33
  online but I get that we're
• 25:35
  trying to professionalize
• 25:36
  it so you can argue both
• 25:39
  ways that people don't do
• 25:41
  this full time that are
• 25:42
  doing it and like people
• 25:44
  would be people would
• 25:45
  complain yeah for sure they
• 25:48
  would I can so my my thing my opinion is
• 25:55
  The thing that needed to change happened,
• 25:57
  and that is the public
• 25:58
  videos for everybody.
• 26:00
  The one change I want to see
• 26:02
  happen is a comment section
• 26:04
  where you have to say what went wrong.
• 26:07
  Exactly.
• 26:08
  You have to say why you're
• 26:10
  marking it down.
• 26:11
  And maybe even the time that you see it.
• 26:13
  Yeah.
• 26:15
  Timestamp.
• 26:17
  didn't reach extension or
• 26:18
  you could say didn't reach
• 26:20
  extension on any of blah or could,
• 26:22
  but it's like, it's just ridiculous.
• 26:24
  Cause like,
• 26:24
  could you imagine if we rewatch,
• 26:26
  let's say mayhem workouts?
• 26:29
  And we paused because people
• 26:31
  are pausing the videos and everything.
• 26:33
  And you assess penalties on every workout.
• 26:36
  In the email that CrossFit Games sends,
• 26:39
  it literally says to watch
• 26:44
  the entire video at regular speed.
• 26:46
  Do not slow down the video to look for...
• 26:50
  like for certain things like
• 26:51
  don't pause the video um
• 26:54
  watch the video one time
• 26:55
  through needs review
• 26:56
  indicates a pattern of
• 26:57
  missed movement standards
• 26:58
  by the judge and athlete
• 27:01
  like you still are like
• 27:03
  like it says make your
• 27:04
  assessments based on a
• 27:05
  reasonable expectation of a
• 27:07
  judge working in a live
• 27:08
  environment like you have
• 27:09
  to still trust that there's
• 27:10
  two level one judges there
• 27:12
  just because the angle that
• 27:13
  you see on the camera
• 27:15
  you're like oh is that
• 27:16
  something needs review like yep
• 27:21
  like can you imagine if we
• 27:22
  watched mayhem again and
• 27:23
  then we went and assessed
• 27:24
  penalties on every single
• 27:25
  workout zooming in and
• 27:27
  stopping everything like
• 27:28
  it's absolutely ridiculous
• 27:29
  like you have to at least
• 27:30
  you're looking these
• 27:31
  reviews should be kind of
• 27:32
  looking for something
• 27:33
  that's standing out
• 27:34
  repetitively and being like
• 27:36
  this is this is not good
• 27:39
  here these reps weren't
• 27:40
  done in the right order
• 27:41
  they missed this round or
• 27:43
  like you lunged six times
• 27:45
  instead of ten times um but like
• 27:50
  sometimes like a call on the
• 27:51
  field stands too a little
• 27:53
  bit like like you can't I
• 27:55
  don't know does that make
• 27:57
  sense oh it's a hundred
• 27:57
  percent like the only
• 27:59
  reason people should have
• 28:00
  been clicking needs review is if
• 28:02
  Measurements were off, weights were off,
• 28:05
  clearly reps were off,
• 28:06
  or they did the wrong movement.
• 28:08
  Your angle of lockout here
• 28:11
  or what you think the
• 28:13
  turnaround looked like on a lunge,
• 28:14
  the lunge one was hammered by everyone.
• 28:17
  I think that's ridiculous.
• 28:18
  That one, you're probably going to have to,
• 28:20
  unless you didn't do the
• 28:22
  number of lunges or you
• 28:24
  clearly didn't stand up or
• 28:27
  you're kind of walking through.
• 28:29
  Or the most egregious one
• 28:31
  that I saw was people that
• 28:32
  did rebounding box jump overs.
• 28:34
  And that's the only video
• 28:35
  that I clicked needs review
• 28:37
  on was you did the wrong movement.
• 28:40
  I didn't,
• 28:41
  I saw people that I could
• 28:42
  question lockout.
• 28:44
  I could question hand placement on,
• 28:47
  on a handstand walking.
• 28:49
  You could question a whole lot of things,
• 28:50
  but like, I'm not going to be that picky.
• 28:53
  Like you eat,
• 28:53
  you either did the movements wrong.
• 28:55
  and you did the number or you didn't,
• 28:57
  you did the wrong movement,
• 28:58
  like box rebound, box jump overs.
• 29:01
  And that's it.
• 29:01
  That's the only reason I'm going to do.
• 29:03
  I saw one girl do six instead of ten.
• 29:05
  And I was like, OK,
• 29:06
  that one needs to be like
• 29:07
  other than that.
• 29:08
  Like I was like, oh, this person moves.
• 29:09
  Well, it looks pretty good.
• 29:11
  Like I wish you could tell
• 29:12
  HQ they only did six reps instead of ten.
• 29:15
  Yes.
• 29:16
  Then it would make it easier
• 29:17
  for them to look for that.
• 29:18
  Like, yeah.
• 29:19
  Or you could say they did
• 29:20
  rebounding box jumps and
• 29:21
  that was prohibited in the standard.
• 29:23
  Yeah.
• 29:25
  um lana says and I want to
• 29:27
  correct apparently you
• 29:28
  could comment without even
• 29:29
  opening the video you had
• 29:30
  to push play once you push
• 29:33
  play you could then vote
• 29:35
  you couldn't there was no
• 29:37
  comment no yeah um deck
• 29:42
  says don't do not roast
• 29:43
  outfit cory says please
• 29:45
  roast my outfit it's the
• 29:46
  only way my I get views on my video um
• 29:56
  Only videos you should pause
• 29:57
  is if you're coaching
• 29:58
  someone on weightlifting.
• 30:01
  But it's like you have two
• 30:04
  level one judges there,
• 30:05
  two judges that took the
• 30:08
  ten dollar course,
• 30:08
  the fifty dollars advanced course.
• 30:11
  And then you have people
• 30:12
  that take the ten dollar course.
• 30:15
  And don't watch the videos
• 30:16
  and just vote with no reasoning.
• 30:18
  Like that's the issue.
• 30:19
  It's like, yeah.
• 30:20
  So then what's the point of
• 30:22
  having all of these
• 30:22
  requirements for the in-person,
• 30:24
  the affiliate, everything.
• 30:25
  If someone can literally get
• 30:27
  answers to the ten dollar
• 30:29
  judges course and just pay
• 30:32
  for that to down vote.
• 30:34
  Exactly.
• 30:35
  A bunch of stuff.
• 30:35
  Well, and we don't know.
• 30:38
  We don't know what HQ is
• 30:39
  going to do with the down votes.
• 30:41
  Like that's the one piece of this.
• 30:42
  We don't know what their protocol is.
• 30:46
  I mean,
• 30:46
  they cause themselves more of a headache,
• 30:48
  honestly,
• 30:48
  if they're just going through like,
• 30:50
  and they wasted a week,
• 30:51
  what they should have done, whatever,
• 30:53
  let the public do what they want to do,
• 30:55
  but they should have already, like,
• 30:56
  if you want to pick workout
• 30:58
  for the lunges or whatever
• 31:00
  you want to pick, pick it.
• 31:01
  They should have been all week already,
• 31:02
  like scrubbing one video and looking for
• 31:06
  anything that sticks out
• 31:07
  that then they that drills
• 31:09
  into viewing more of that
• 31:10
  person's videos they may
• 31:13
  they may have but we don't
• 31:14
  I haven't heard any of
• 31:15
  anything um uh did we
• 31:25
  already discuss the judge
• 31:26
  requirements issue kinda
• 31:28
  well we haven't said that some are lapsed
• 31:39
  Hello?
• 31:43
  Hello?
• 31:45
  Can you hear me?
• 31:47
  Yes, yes, I can hear you.
• 31:48
  Can you hear me?
• 31:49
  Yeah.
• 31:50
  Hi, hi, everyone.
• 31:52
  Sorry.
• 31:52
  This is Lynn.
• 31:53
  Hi, Lynn.
• 31:56
  Hi, I got heated, I think,
• 31:59
  over lunch the other day
• 32:01
  and I decided I had to call
• 32:02
  in just to get everyone's idea.
• 32:08
  I just don't see how
• 32:09
  CrossFit HQ didn't see this coming.
• 32:13
  Like,
• 32:13
  I think it's kind of like rookie
• 32:16
  mistakes that they made.
• 32:19
  I understand that they
• 32:19
  always throw out things
• 32:21
  that don't work out like
• 32:23
  the previous year and then
• 32:24
  just try something completely new.
• 32:27
  But it's such a rookie move
• 32:28
  to not have people already
• 32:30
  see this coming.
• 32:31
  Like if you do a practice run of this,
• 32:34
  you can see the downsides of all of it.
• 32:37
  We could all see this coming
• 32:39
  the first day that we saw
• 32:40
  the videos of everyone and
• 32:41
  they had like thirty nine
• 32:42
  people saying needs review.
• 32:45
  So how did they not see this coming?
• 32:49
  I just don't understand.
• 32:51
  Because even in the open,
• 32:52
  there was no drop box
• 32:55
  thingy of why you're saying
• 32:59
  the video is bad.
• 33:00
  I thought that they would,
• 33:02
  for the semifinals, change that.
• 33:04
  But I guess people could
• 33:06
  have brought it up or
• 33:07
  should have brought it up
• 33:08
  maybe in the open that
• 33:09
  there was nothing like that.
• 33:11
  Because there used to be.
• 33:13
  There used to be.
• 33:14
  I think we all assumed it
• 33:15
  would be like it used to be.
• 33:17
  You commented, timestamp, what you saw,
• 33:20
  what they need to review.
• 33:21
  Yeah.
• 33:23
  Exactly.
• 33:24
  And it used to be that way
• 33:26
  five years ago when I was still judging.
• 33:29
  You could comment and
• 33:31
  timestamp what you saw.
• 33:34
  Yeah.
• 33:35
  Yeah.
• 33:36
  I just, I just,
• 33:37
  but then comes my second
• 33:38
  question is then why was
• 33:40
  everyone paying a hundred
• 33:41
  dollars if the public was
• 33:42
  going to do all the work?
• 33:44
  Why were we having to have
• 33:46
  two judges who had to be
• 33:47
  qualified if the public was
• 33:49
  going to be doing all the work?
• 33:51
  I don't think the public's
• 33:52
  actually doing the work.
• 33:53
  I think it was just a, I mean,
• 33:55
  maybe they will.
• 33:57
  I, yeah,
• 33:57
  I just think they wanted to
• 34:01
  appease the people.
• 34:03
  I don't know that that is
• 34:04
  actually going to affect anything.
• 34:07
  I think they increased to a
• 34:08
  hundred cause they got rid
• 34:09
  of the quarter finals.
• 34:10
  So there was two payments of
• 34:12
  fifty bucks or whatever it was.
• 34:13
  Fifty dollars for the quarters.
• 34:14
  Was it fifty for the semis
• 34:15
  last year as well?
• 34:16
  Yeah, it was.
• 34:17
  So they just kind of combine
• 34:18
  that to make sure that
• 34:19
  they're not losing any money.
• 34:20
  That's why I figured it was
• 34:22
  a hundred versus the fifty.
• 34:24
  But I doubt that that's
• 34:25
  going towards any judgment
• 34:27
  or judging payment, but I could.
• 34:31
  Yeah,
• 34:31
  a lot of comments about wish there
• 34:34
  was a dropdown to pick your judges.
• 34:37
  That was one of the biggest mistakes,
• 34:38
  I think.
• 34:40
  I was nervous entering my judge.
• 34:42
  I'm like, I had to double look like,
• 34:45
  did I spell the name right?
• 34:46
  Like, is it going to pop up?
• 34:48
  Is it going to be invalid
• 34:49
  because I missed an H or something?
• 34:52
  Yeah.
• 34:55
  Yeah, I think something like that.
• 34:56
  And then also when you vote,
• 34:58
  signing your name to it, like,
• 35:00
  I would love that.
• 35:02
  Seeing these people are the
• 35:03
  ones that validated and whatnot.
• 35:09
  Yeah, I mean, I think if you're gonna,
• 35:10
  if you're gonna try to
• 35:12
  judge someone's video,
• 35:14
  you should put kind of put
• 35:15
  your name on the line there.
• 35:16
  Like,
• 35:18
  And if you misjudge enough videos,
• 35:21
  that privilege should be
• 35:23
  revoked in the future.
• 35:24
  Like if you're just going in
• 35:25
  there and clicking needs
• 35:26
  review on people you don't
• 35:27
  like or people you like.
• 35:30
  I mean, Hip and Steel got hammered.
• 35:32
  And I actually watched some of his videos.
• 35:34
  And like his Clean Bar
• 35:35
  Muscle Up video looked pretty good to me.
• 35:38
  He got absolutely hammered.
• 35:39
  People are just going in
• 35:40
  there and clicking needs review.
• 35:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:45
  think you should have to
• 35:46
  stand by that that judgment
• 35:48
  if that's what you're
• 35:48
  trying to say like tell me
• 35:50
  what you are saying needs
• 35:51
  review on his video and put
• 35:54
  your name also yes on the
• 35:57
  anonymous judging um I
• 36:00
  remember and I think I
• 36:01
  brought this up on the ttt
• 36:03
  thing not everyone is
• 36:05
  following the same rules of judging
• 36:08
  that everyone,
• 36:09
  that I think is the playbook.
• 36:11
  So for example, George Sterner,
• 36:12
  I think I gave this example last time.
• 36:14
  One of his videos had ten fifty-two,
• 36:16
  fifty-three milliseconds on it.
• 36:18
  And then one judge said he
• 36:20
  needed review because he
• 36:21
  should have put ten
• 36:22
  fifty-three and not ten
• 36:23
  fifty-two just because they
• 36:25
  could see the millisecond on his video.
• 36:29
  Like we've never counted the milliseconds.
• 36:30
  It could be point nine nine
• 36:32
  and it's still going to be fifty-two.
• 36:33
  Yes.
• 36:35
  said he gave him like a
• 36:36
  needs review on his video
• 36:38
  for that so now it tells me
• 36:40
  not everyone is following
• 36:41
  the same rules of judging
• 36:45
  like there's no level
• 36:46
  playing field on judging
• 36:49
  yeah I think the one thing
• 36:50
  that we don't know is how
• 36:51
  much weight crossfit hq is
• 36:53
  putting on these down votes
• 36:56
  true how much do they really mean
• 37:00
  true I wonder if like this
• 37:02
  is why they put the masters
• 37:04
  one first because like even
• 37:05
  though the masters crossfit
• 37:06
  games is after the um
• 37:10
  regular crossfit games like
• 37:12
  the elite division and um
• 37:15
  teams just as like a guinea pig,
• 37:18
  maybe type of thing.
• 37:20
  And then hopefully they can
• 37:22
  learn from this and adjust
• 37:24
  going forward for the May one to fourth,
• 37:27
  because I hope it's not the
• 37:28
  exact same thing.
• 37:30
  And I know that they're
• 37:30
  supposed to be talking to the, um,
• 37:34
  the CAC, um, this week or after,
• 37:38
  after they're done their, um,
• 37:41
  video analysis stuff but
• 37:43
  yeah it's I mean yeah it's
• 37:46
  show that's a good way uh
• 37:52
  denise actually pipes in oh
• 37:53
  my god my head judge's name
• 37:54
  was matthew ilhar guy I was
• 37:58
  sweating bullets typing his
• 37:59
  name every time I would be
• 38:01
  too yeah a drop down and
• 38:04
  you would know that they
• 38:05
  were so that's the thing
• 38:06
  that's people having the issue of
• 38:08
  They'll not as not an active L one.
• 38:11
  You would have started
• 38:12
  typing their name in and
• 38:13
  they wouldn't have
• 38:14
  populated and you would have been like,
• 38:15
  bro, what's up.
• 38:16
  Yeah.
• 38:19
  Yeah.
• 38:20
  Cause like the one thing I
• 38:20
  like about it's the blind
• 38:22
  leaderboard is great.
• 38:23
  You need the dropdown menu of,
• 38:26
  of the judges.
• 38:26
  You knew would have caught
• 38:27
  that mistake right away.
• 38:28
  Cause you can post your scores early.
• 38:30
  As soon as you do them,
• 38:31
  basically you can add your
• 38:33
  scores right away to the
• 38:34
  system without even thinking.
• 38:35
  So people that do that would
• 38:37
  see right away.
• 38:38
  Oh, that's not, I don't know why your name,
• 38:41
  why is your name not popping up?
• 38:42
  And then you kind of dig
• 38:43
  into it and you're like,
• 38:44
  you don't have your level one.
• 38:45
  I got to redo this workout.
• 38:46
  Yeah.
• 38:49
  Anything else, Lynn?
• 38:51
  No, that's all.
• 38:51
  Thank you, guys.
• 38:53
  Thank you.
• 38:53
  Well, thank you for calling in.
• 38:55
  Of course.
• 38:56
  Of course.
• 38:56
  My pleasure.
• 38:57
  All right.
• 38:58
  Have a good night.
• 39:00
  You too.
• 39:02
  Yeah,
• 39:02
  I've seen Lynn in some of the comments,
• 39:05
  like grubs feed and all that.
• 39:06
  And I'm always like, like, yup.
• 39:09
  We're like,
• 39:09
  she's like spot on with all of
• 39:11
  my thoughts.
• 39:13
  Well, she,
• 39:14
  you guys bring up the whole like
• 39:16
  certified judge thing,
• 39:17
  which is on our rundown.
• 39:18
  Yep.
• 39:19
  And so I do have,
• 39:22
  I have it in my favorites here.
• 39:24
  Hold on.
• 39:26
  right so I will share my
• 39:27
  screen it took me forever
• 39:29
  to find this crossfit has a
• 39:31
  page called announcements
• 39:32
  it there's no way to get
• 39:33
  through through the menu
• 39:35
  you just kind of have to
• 39:35
  know it's there um it took
• 39:38
  me so long to find this
• 39:39
  today um so on april
• 39:41
  eleventh twenty twenty five
• 39:43
  they put this out here on
• 39:44
  announcements and that was
• 39:47
  the twenty twenty five age
• 39:48
  group semifinals update
• 39:49
  judges with expired crossfit credentials
• 39:52
  Unfortunately, they did not receive that.
• 40:21
  While the onus is on the
• 40:22
  athletes to confirm the
• 40:23
  correct credentials,
• 40:25
  since this is a new process
• 40:27
  and the affected athletes
• 40:28
  believe their judges were credentialed,
• 40:30
  we will be dedicating
• 40:31
  extensive resources to
• 40:33
  review submitted videos and
• 40:34
  update the athlete scores
• 40:36
  based on the outcomes of the review.
• 40:39
  To ensure a fair outcome and
• 40:41
  uphold the standards of competition,
• 40:43
  CrossFit will proceed with
• 40:44
  the following course of action.
• 40:46
  All affected scores will
• 40:47
  temporarily be changed to zero.
• 40:50
  CrossFit's internal review
• 40:51
  team composed of qualified
• 40:52
  judges will then conduct a
• 40:54
  full video review of each
• 40:56
  of the affected workouts submitted.
• 40:58
  Athletes will receive new
• 40:59
  modified scores based on
• 41:00
  the outcome of those reviews,
• 41:01
  and all updated scores will
• 41:03
  be reflected on the
• 41:04
  leaderboard prior to the
• 41:05
  finalization of Monday,
• 41:06
  April twenty first.
• 41:10
  So my first question to you guys is,
• 41:12
  this is unprecedented for
• 41:14
  CrossFit to make an
• 41:16
  exception to a rule in a rulebook.
• 41:19
  We have seen many athletes
• 41:21
  get disqualified from their
• 41:22
  season because they didn't
• 41:24
  meet a rule in the rulebook.
• 41:27
  Yeah.
• 41:31
  However, in this case,
• 41:32
  they are making an exception.
• 41:33
  And they keep saying it's a
• 41:35
  one-time exception,
• 41:36
  but you have set the precedence now.
• 41:41
  So what it appears to have
• 41:42
  happened is that age group
• 41:46
  athletes were invited to
• 41:47
  Mayhem to do their workouts,
• 41:50
  and then they were given a
• 41:52
  ticket to go to the Mayhem
• 41:54
  Classic and have a big
• 41:55
  weekend with the Mayhem family.
• 41:58
  Mayhem hired a group of
• 42:00
  judges to come down and
• 42:02
  judge the competition.
• 42:03
  In addition,
• 42:04
  I guess they paid extra for
• 42:06
  them to also judge the age
• 42:07
  group athletes in the morning.
• 42:10
  some of those judges were
• 42:12
  their credentials had
• 42:13
  expired so I did verify
• 42:16
  this because I know some of
• 42:18
  the mayhem athletes from
• 42:19
  behind the scenes last year
• 42:22
  and I will share my screen
• 42:26
  um I think it's this one um
• 42:30
  so our very own bracket
• 42:33
  winner on the men's side
• 42:34
  brett owsley is one of the
• 42:36
  mayhem athletes
• 42:38
  So you can see his score here.
• 42:41
  And when you go to the second, third,
• 42:43
  fourth and fifth workouts,
• 42:44
  they are all zero.
• 42:48
  If you go to the if you
• 42:49
  click on the video of those workouts,
• 42:53
  you can actually see that
• 42:54
  he has done reps.
• 42:57
  Like there's no way that
• 42:58
  this should be zero.
• 43:06
  So let me fast forward this
• 43:09
  ahead and you can see he is
• 43:11
  rowing on the rower.
• 43:12
  He is gaining reps.
• 43:14
  So this is where this took place.
• 43:16
  And I verified it with a
• 43:17
  bunch of other athletes
• 43:19
  that I knew were mayhem athletes.
• 43:21
  And this seems to be where
• 43:22
  it stemmed from.
• 43:24
  The only workout that is not
• 43:25
  zero on their scores is event one.
• 43:28
  So I don't know if some of
• 43:31
  the judges in question were
• 43:33
  not part of that group.
• 43:36
  Like the head judge had
• 43:38
  taken a break or something.
• 43:40
  Right.
• 43:43
  So this is what's happened.
• 43:44
  All of their scores with
• 43:46
  these uncertified judges
• 43:49
  have been moved to zero and
• 43:51
  CrossFit is going to review
• 43:52
  them themselves.
• 43:55
  And then modify their scores
• 43:57
  appropriately.
• 44:00
  Is this a good precedence or
• 44:01
  a bad precedence?
• 44:06
  I mean,
• 44:07
  with all these changes this year
• 44:09
  and all these requirements, I,
• 44:11
  I almost think they had to do this,
• 44:13
  like make the point, make it clear,
• 44:16
  start searching for your L ones right now,
• 44:20
  individuals, but.
• 44:24
  yeah you you almost wouldn't
• 44:26
  even think about it like
• 44:28
  you're you're usually going
• 44:29
  to trust those people I
• 44:30
  think even especially going
• 44:31
  to mayhem you're going to
• 44:32
  trust that corey lynch said
• 44:34
  small number my ass eleven
• 44:35
  people in my age group
• 44:36
  alone yeah yeah I mean brad
• 44:40
  was like what thirty he was
• 44:42
  just outside the cut line I
• 44:44
  think before this so
• 44:46
  I think Mayhem announced that they had,
• 44:48
  because looking for evidence today,
• 44:50
  I was on all these sites.
• 44:53
  Mayhem announced they had
• 44:53
  like a hundred and fifty or
• 44:55
  sixty athletes qualified
• 45:00
  for in the age groups.
• 45:06
  Hello.
• 45:07
  Hello.
• 45:07
  Hello.
• 45:07
  Wait a minute.
• 45:09
  Hold on.
• 45:16
  Let me mute this.
• 45:18
  All right.
• 45:21
  So I have an opinion.
• 45:24
  This is Denise Moore,
• 45:25
  and I have to call it
• 45:26
  because it's unfair from my
• 45:30
  perspective that all these
• 45:33
  people are getting a break
• 45:36
  when there are a lot of people that said,
• 45:37
  you know what, I could not find a judge,
• 45:40
  so I'm not going to do it.
• 45:42
  You know,
• 45:42
  if I had to travel somewhere and
• 45:45
  I couldn't find it, I was like, all right,
• 45:48
  people gave up because of that.
• 45:51
  So I think that's unfair.
• 45:55
  I think that's a good point.
• 45:57
  There are a lot of people
• 45:58
  who probably didn't do it
• 45:59
  because it just wasn't
• 46:01
  worth the drive and the
• 46:03
  requirements just weren't around them.
• 46:06
  I fully get that.
• 46:09
  The other part of me as an athlete,
• 46:10
  I look at the videos and I'm like, man,
• 46:12
  that sucks for those
• 46:13
  athletes because it's like
• 46:14
  their score is proven right
• 46:16
  there like they have all
• 46:18
  like everything like they
• 46:19
  did the workout it's on
• 46:21
  video we see the workout
• 46:22
  it's done within the time
• 46:23
  frame like they followed
• 46:25
  every other thing so it's
• 46:26
  it's tough because you you
• 46:29
  see both sides of it um and
• 46:31
  then then you have one
• 46:34
  person that is in my age
• 46:35
  division lynn matman who's
• 46:37
  been to the games for
• 46:38
  fifteen years in a row and
• 46:40
  she ended up with the same
• 46:42
  thing because one of her judge
• 46:44
  is she put as Chad McKay.
• 46:48
  And I tried to look up a
• 46:49
  Chad McKay and there was an
• 46:51
  Adam McKay that has all sorts of.
• 46:54
  So I'm wondering whether she
• 46:55
  just happened to put in a
• 46:58
  nickname for this guy.
• 47:00
  Everybody calls him Chad,
• 47:01
  but his real name is Adam
• 47:02
  and all his his training is under Adam.
• 47:06
  It could be or could be.
• 47:09
  But the thing is, it's like, all right,
• 47:10
  well,
• 47:11
  I'm okay with someone accidentally
• 47:13
  putting out a wrong name and fixing it.
• 47:15
  But to not use a judge that
• 47:18
  doesn't have the
• 47:20
  requirements and then back
• 47:22
  off on that because it was
• 47:23
  such a big deal in the first place.
• 47:25
  And then people gave up because of it.
• 47:27
  I'm like, all right, that's not right.
• 47:29
  Yeah.
• 47:31
  I think what is complicating
• 47:32
  this is they may have hired
• 47:34
  a group of judges to come in and do this.
• 47:41
  What I hate about this is, really,
• 47:44
  this is not CrossFit's fault.
• 47:47
  No.
• 47:48
  This is that the group of
• 47:49
  judges should have known
• 47:51
  the people that they were
• 47:52
  supplying were credentialed.
• 47:56
  Mayhem should have double-checked.
• 48:02
  Yeah.
• 48:02
  Yeah.
• 48:02
  Yeah, this is an error from them.
• 48:06
  But when you pay someone to
• 48:07
  provide a service,
• 48:09
  there is an assumption that
• 48:10
  you're providing the
• 48:11
  service needed to fulfill the role,
• 48:14
  right?
• 48:14
  Right.
• 48:18
  And so, yeah, I do believe it's on Mayhem.
• 48:24
  Mayhem should have double checked it.
• 48:27
  You have enough people in
• 48:28
  that empire to have someone
• 48:31
  just make sure that
• 48:32
  everybody had the credentials to do so.
• 48:37
  And I haven't named the entity.
• 48:38
  I guess I should because we
• 48:40
  all know who it is.
• 48:41
  And it is the Association of
• 48:42
  Fitness Judges, the AFJ.
• 48:45
  They formed a group.
• 48:47
  And a lot of the people in
• 48:48
  that group I have judged with.
• 48:50
  Like I've known these people
• 48:51
  a very long time.
• 48:54
  I recognize people's names
• 48:56
  on those whiteboards that I
• 48:58
  saw in the videos today.
• 49:00
  But I don't know if their
• 49:01
  L-I is expired or their L-II is expired.
• 49:05
  I don't know them that well, right?
• 49:09
  But you can look them up on that site.
• 49:12
  Yeah, you can look them up.
• 49:12
  Yeah.
• 49:16
  Yeah, I mean, it sucks as an athlete,
• 49:19
  but if that happened to me,
• 49:20
  I'd be pissed.
• 49:21
  Oh.
• 49:22
  but then I'd be pissed at
• 49:24
  myself also for not double checking.
• 49:26
  Like I'd be pissed at like
• 49:29
  the situation of assuming
• 49:33
  that everything was taken care of.
• 49:35
  But then at the end of the day,
• 49:36
  there's some accountability
• 49:38
  on my part as an athlete to be like, crap,
• 49:41
  I should have looked as
• 49:42
  well and just double checked.
• 49:47
  Um,
• 49:49
  Like, I mean,
• 49:51
  I'm of the opinion that I
• 49:52
  don't think both judges need the L-I.
• 49:55
  Like, you're already taking, like,
• 49:57
  the judges course,
• 49:58
  the advanced judges course.
• 49:59
  I think one of the people
• 50:00
  could have an L-I.
• 50:02
  I don't know that you needed both,
• 50:03
  but it's the rules that they had,
• 50:07
  so I almost feel like they
• 50:10
  need to follow through with it.
• 50:12
  But I do, I get both sides of it.
• 50:16
  Lynn comes in.
• 50:16
  Do we honestly know if the
• 50:18
  games judges have their L ones?
• 50:19
  We do.
• 50:20
  Most of the games judges are
• 50:22
  seminar staff.
• 50:23
  Right.
• 50:24
  So most of them have their L
• 50:25
  four or L three.
• 50:29
  But again,
• 50:29
  none of that makes you a better judge.
• 50:32
  Right.
• 50:32
  Right.
• 50:34
  Standard of movement to get
• 50:36
  fit and standard of movement to,
• 50:40
  while it makes sense they
• 50:41
  should be the same thing, to compete.
• 50:44
  When you're judging the sport,
• 50:45
  it doesn't matter how pretty it looks.
• 50:47
  It's just do they meet the
• 50:48
  points they're supposed to meet.
• 50:51
  When you're coaching someone,
• 50:52
  and that is what you learn in the L-I,
• 50:54
  L-II, L-III,
• 50:56
  you want them to do it so
• 50:57
  they don't hurt themselves.
• 51:01
  It just reminds me also of
• 51:03
  like the situation with
• 51:04
  Annika a few years, right?
• 51:06
  Like she had the video,
• 51:07
  she had the proof that she
• 51:09
  did it within the timeframe
• 51:10
  with the timestamp and everything.
• 51:11
  And it's like,
• 51:13
  whether it was a computer
• 51:14
  glitch or she forgot to submit on time.
• 51:16
  Like she was,
• 51:16
  she tried giving that video
• 51:18
  and they just said no, you know?
• 51:20
  And it was the same thing
• 51:21
  for like YouTube stuff that
• 51:23
  people had trouble with last year.
• 51:26
  Like either it was like
• 51:27
  their video was private or
• 51:28
  something like that.
• 51:29
  And then they couldn't open it.
• 51:30
  And it was like zero,
• 51:31
  like it didn't matter.
• 51:33
  And they, they stood still on that.
• 51:34
  I think it was to Freya.
• 51:36
  If I,
• 51:36
  if I remember like had happened
• 51:38
  something with her YouTube
• 51:38
  link and they were like, Nope,
• 51:40
  that's zero.
• 51:41
  Yeah.
• 51:42
  like and the proof was there
• 51:43
  that the athletes had done
• 51:44
  the work and like what like
• 51:47
  I guess what's the
• 51:48
  difference between that and
• 51:50
  this scenario where you see
• 51:51
  the athletes proof of them
• 51:53
  doing the work within the
• 51:54
  time frame but it doesn't
• 51:55
  go under the rules that
• 51:56
  they followed so like
• 51:58
  annika gets a no and these
• 52:01
  people get a second chance
• 52:04
  you could see annika's
• 52:05
  video everything was good
• 52:07
  she was fit enough to
• 52:08
  qualify and they're like
• 52:09
  nope and then these people
• 52:10
  you see that they're good enough
• 52:13
  But because it's mayhem, maybe.
• 52:15
  That was my next question.
• 52:16
  But Denise, do you have anything else?
• 52:21
  No, I wanted to let you guys go.
• 52:24
  But his name is Matthew Elerege.
• 52:29
  Okay.
• 52:30
  That's how you pronounce his name.
• 52:32
  I'm just glad I don't have to spell it.
• 52:36
  He's my personal coach, too.
• 52:38
  I call him that eye.
• 52:41
  Have a good night.
• 52:47
  Bye.
• 52:47
  Is there a difference?
• 52:49
  Is there a major difference
• 52:50
  with the point that I'm making there?
• 52:52
  A score submission that's late?
• 52:54
  I don't think so.
• 52:58
  I think you brought up the point.
• 52:59
  It's mayhem.
• 53:01
  We've been picking on mayhem.
• 53:03
  I love Rich.
• 53:04
  Rich is my OG crush.
• 53:10
  and um but they have a
• 53:13
  hundred and fifty or sixty
• 53:15
  athletes whatever it was
• 53:16
  they announced it's a huge
• 53:18
  it would be a huge
• 53:19
  disruption in the season to
• 53:23
  lose that many athletes and
• 53:24
  it is rich and mayhem and I
• 53:26
  think that is why they got
• 53:27
  the exception if this
• 53:30
  happened at ttt like it
• 53:33
  they had the ttt hired the
• 53:35
  afj judges yeah
• 53:37
  to come in and do the open
• 53:39
  one year or a quarter finals or semis,
• 53:41
  whatever it was.
• 53:42
  And,
• 53:43
  and CrossFit overrode what the judges
• 53:46
  did on the floor and booted
• 53:48
  the people out.
• 53:50
  Um,
• 53:51
  and TTT didn't get the benefit of the
• 53:52
  doubt.
• 53:53
  Yeah.
• 53:53
  TTT didn't use AFJ this year.
• 53:57
  Why would you?
• 53:58
  I mean, at this point,
• 53:59
  like... Because it didn't matter.
• 54:01
  Again, I love a lot of these people.
• 54:03
  I've been with these people in the pits,
• 54:06
  but why didn't you have a
• 54:08
  spreadsheet with
• 54:09
  everybody's expiration dates?
• 54:10
  Yeah.
• 54:11
  You should have had a
• 54:12
  database of your staff and
• 54:15
  when their expiration of
• 54:16
  their certifications were
• 54:17
  and make sure that
• 54:18
  everybody was qualified
• 54:19
  before you let them take the floor.
• 54:22
  Because now,
• 54:23
  who's going to hire you to
• 54:24
  come in and do this?
• 54:25
  Agree.
• 54:27
  And the AFJ stuff, like it's great.
• 54:29
  Like they're doing a great job.
• 54:30
  And I think that they're
• 54:31
  really pushing things forward.
• 54:32
  And it, you know,
• 54:34
  was most definitely an honest mistake by,
• 54:36
  you know,
• 54:37
  whether it's one or a few of their judges,
• 54:39
  but there's been a lot of
• 54:40
  honest mistakes as well,
• 54:42
  like for other athletes and
• 54:44
  other situations.
• 54:46
  And it's always been no.
• 54:48
  So it's just surprising that
• 54:51
  this one was a,
• 54:53
  we'll judge the videos then.
• 54:57
  Yeah.
• 54:58
  Yeah, I... Because, of course,
• 55:00
  the intention wasn't from
• 55:02
  those judges that, like,
• 55:04
  they didn't mean to screw
• 55:05
  over the athletes.
• 55:06
  Like, you know when your L-I is expired,
• 55:09
  though.
• 55:10
  Like, you know,
• 55:11
  you get a lot of
• 55:11
  certification or a lot of
• 55:13
  emails about it.
• 55:13
  Because my L-II was almost expired.
• 55:16
  And then I had to hurry up
• 55:19
  and do another L-II.
• 55:22
  It is happening now.
• 55:23
  It's expiring in ninety days
• 55:24
  and sixty days.
• 55:24
  And the third, like, it was...
• 55:26
  Leanna's right.
• 55:27
  It is happening to others.
• 55:28
  So other people, well,
• 55:29
  other people are getting
• 55:30
  the benefit of Mayhem's pull,
• 55:31
  I would say.
• 55:33
  But like Denise said,
• 55:36
  is there was a lot of
• 55:37
  people who did not do the
• 55:39
  workouts because they didn't have that.
• 55:43
  They didn't have anyone that
• 55:44
  had a level one and those judges.
• 55:46
  Right.
• 55:47
  Courses.
• 55:48
  Yeah.
• 55:48
  I saw a lot of that.
• 55:49
  People commenting they were
• 55:51
  people were going to charge
• 55:52
  them one hundred fifty an
• 55:53
  hour or they just couldn't
• 55:55
  they couldn't get two
• 55:56
  people there the whole time.
• 55:57
  Like it was not worth the headache.
• 55:59
  And yeah, that's a problem.
• 56:03
  Um, before we get in,
• 56:06
  I do want to say this, Holly,
• 56:08
  our data person did try to
• 56:10
  do a study as to why people
• 56:12
  didn't sign up for
• 56:13
  semifinals because only
• 56:15
  about two thirds of the
• 56:16
  athletes signed up at to play that were,
• 56:20
  that were eligible to sign up and play in,
• 56:22
  in semifinals.
• 56:23
  Yeah.
• 56:24
  And she did get back somewhere.
• 56:26
  It was the a hundred dollars.
• 56:27
  Okay.
• 56:28
  Some, it was the judge requirement.
• 56:32
  Some, it was finding an affiliate,
• 56:34
  but she didn't have enough
• 56:36
  responses to the survey to
• 56:38
  give like a definitive,
• 56:40
  like study result.
• 56:42
  I think also there's a lot
• 56:44
  of athletes that the
• 56:45
  workouts are too hard.
• 56:46
  Like before you go from the
• 56:48
  open to the quarterfinals
• 56:50
  and then from the
• 56:51
  quarterfinals to the semifinals.
• 56:53
  And there's still like,
• 56:54
  there's a layer of
• 56:55
  difficulty in the quarters
• 56:56
  and then a bigger
• 56:57
  difficulty in the semifinals.
• 56:59
  Like some of the weights can
• 57:00
  be too heavy for certain divisions,
• 57:03
  like teenagers that have
• 57:05
  like the two hundredth person and like,
• 57:07
  Like it's like when you go from the,
• 57:09
  what you test in the open
• 57:11
  to some of these weights, like,
• 57:13
  You can sneak through the
• 57:15
  one or two percent and not
• 57:17
  have tested certain skills.
• 57:19
  And it's a little bit too
• 57:20
  difficult with the
• 57:21
  quarterfinals before the semifinals.
• 57:24
  It can maybe layer in a
• 57:25
  couple like just more
• 57:27
  people so that the
• 57:27
  appropriate semifinal group is there.
• 57:31
  I'm not sure whether in
• 57:33
  three workouts of the open
• 57:35
  you get the exact top two
• 57:37
  percent that you might be
• 57:38
  looking for for those semifinal workouts.
• 57:42
  I think for the regular division,
• 57:45
  the one percent is pretty close.
• 57:48
  Most of the people kind of
• 57:49
  separate themselves naturally,
• 57:50
  but you're still going to
• 57:51
  get people in the one
• 57:52
  percent that will struggle
• 57:54
  with a lot of the higher
• 57:55
  skill and heavyweights,
• 57:56
  a hundred percent when they
• 57:57
  come to the semifinals.
• 57:59
  Like that layer of
• 58:00
  quarterfinals just helps
• 58:03
  more people enter that
• 58:05
  space and then the
• 58:06
  appropriate people at semifinals.
• 58:07
  I think that's a factor as well.
• 58:09
  Yes.
• 58:10
  Only nineteen females and
• 58:11
  seventy plus put in a score
• 58:13
  for number five heavyweight.
• 58:16
  Yeah,
• 58:17
  they really need to go back through
• 58:19
  some of these tests and the
• 58:21
  leaderboard and kind of
• 58:24
  kind of rethink what they
• 58:25
  were trying to test,
• 58:28
  what their stimulus was,
• 58:29
  because I think they missed
• 58:30
  the mark in some of these age groups.
• 58:33
  Like I did like the
• 58:34
  adjustments of the ten-year
• 58:36
  age groups for certain
• 58:37
  movements that they had adjusted,
• 58:39
  but it wasn't consistent
• 58:40
  with all the workouts.
• 58:43
  And yeah,
• 58:43
  it would be good to go back and be like,
• 58:46
  okay,
• 58:46
  this many forty-five-year-olds were
• 58:48
  able to do it within this time frame,
• 58:51
  etc.
• 58:52
  Like it just gives a better
• 58:53
  representation of the field
• 58:54
  of the two percent,
• 58:55
  which is why the Open
• 58:56
  matters a lot for what they program there,
• 58:58
  especially if they're not
• 58:59
  going to have a quarterfinals anymore.
• 59:01
  and you're going directly to
• 59:02
  these style of workouts,
• 59:07
  there's a big jump between
• 59:08
  the open and what these workouts are.
• 59:11
  Big jump.
• 59:12
  And there still could be bigger.
• 59:13
  We didn't have ring muscle-ups.
• 59:14
  We didn't have that much handstand.
• 59:16
  There's more that they could
• 59:17
  have programmed,
• 59:18
  but it's significant to the
• 59:21
  point where I think some athletes,
• 59:23
  it may be too much.
• 59:24
  And I think that's another
• 59:25
  reason that people didn't do it.
• 59:28
  With the compressed season...
• 59:31
  and these in-person
• 59:35
  qualifying events like Mayhem Classic,
• 59:37
  like Copa Sur,
• 59:39
  like WADLAND that are coming up,
• 59:42
  we don't have time for
• 59:43
  quarterfinals anymore.
• 59:45
  They have really scheduled
• 59:47
  it out where there's no
• 59:49
  time for quarters.
• 59:55
  Could you maybe do...
• 59:58
  a four week open or four
• 59:59
  that or like I'm thinking
• 1:00:01
  in my head like could we
• 1:00:02
  still do the three week
• 1:00:03
  open and then the following
• 1:00:05
  the following week is is
• 1:00:07
  quarters but it's like they
• 1:00:09
  don't have time for the
• 1:00:10
  video review yeah I mean
• 1:00:15
  this was they don't video
• 1:00:16
  review too much anyways
• 1:00:17
  from yeah I don't know that
• 1:00:18
  they really would yeah I don't
• 1:00:23
  Like you go make it.
• 1:00:24
  I think it might,
• 1:00:25
  if you had like a bonus week on the open,
• 1:00:28
  like three week out,
• 1:00:29
  three workouts do this and
• 1:00:31
  it's compiled in with your open score.
• 1:00:34
  Then we take the top two percent to semis.
• 1:00:37
  Like,
• 1:00:37
  I think that probably gets you a
• 1:00:38
  better two percent.
• 1:00:40
  But yeah, I don't know if we're.
• 1:00:42
  Yeah, I don't.
• 1:00:48
  Are we getting the right thirty percent?
• 1:00:51
  with what we're doing or are
• 1:00:53
  we complaining about stuff
• 1:00:57
  that isn't mattering?
• 1:01:01
  The only question that at
• 1:01:04
  all is because like last
• 1:01:07
  year I did this behind the
• 1:01:08
  scenes with all these
• 1:01:09
  people I got to meet and I
• 1:01:10
  went down through the
• 1:01:11
  leaderboard and a lot of
• 1:01:13
  them didn't make it by a hair.
• 1:01:16
  Like a lot of them were in
• 1:01:17
  that like thirty two, thirty four,
• 1:01:19
  thirty five area.
• 1:01:23
  And I was just crushed
• 1:01:25
  because I'd met these people.
• 1:01:26
  I wanted to see how they
• 1:01:26
  progressed and they were
• 1:01:28
  just on the outside.
• 1:01:30
  And that's that's where I
• 1:01:31
  wonder if we we haven't done enough.
• 1:01:36
  I think it's the right
• 1:01:37
  thirty or however many
• 1:01:40
  further divisions like the
• 1:01:41
  people will stand out
• 1:01:42
  within the division.
• 1:01:43
  It's just the participation, really.
• 1:01:46
  is the big thing but more
• 1:01:47
  scores is always better
• 1:01:48
  like five scores versus
• 1:01:49
  four will give you a better
• 1:01:50
  picture and the better
• 1:01:52
  athletes will will qualify
• 1:01:55
  um yeah it's just for
• 1:01:57
  participation I think where
• 1:01:58
  you'll see the difference
• 1:01:59
  on the bottom end whether
• 1:02:02
  it'll matter a lynn says
• 1:02:05
  the third rate thirty
• 1:02:06
  weight it's not forty this
• 1:02:07
  time it is not forty
• 1:02:09
  It is down to.
• 1:02:12
  Yep.
• 1:02:16
  And then is and seventies is.
• 1:02:17
  So, yeah, well, I think we, I dunno,
• 1:02:28
  we at least talked about it
• 1:02:30
  and I'm not sure we solved anything,
• 1:02:32
  but there are,
• 1:02:34
  there's definitely
• 1:02:34
  questions about what happened and.
• 1:02:40
  I'm really sad for the AFJ
• 1:02:41
  because I thought that what
• 1:02:42
  they were doing was a good thing.
• 1:02:44
  And I think what they're
• 1:02:46
  doing is a good thing.
• 1:02:48
  Not thought.
• 1:02:48
  I think what they're doing
• 1:02:49
  is a good thing.
• 1:02:51
  But they're just making a
• 1:02:52
  couple missteps along the
• 1:02:53
  way that are costing them
• 1:02:54
  their opportunity.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah, because the idea is good.
• 1:03:00
  It's great.
• 1:03:01
  And I like that there's a
• 1:03:01
  group of them and they're
• 1:03:03
  going to different places and teaching,
• 1:03:05
  like doing almost like
• 1:03:06
  little seminars on what
• 1:03:07
  you're looking for in person.
• 1:03:08
  And you could then hire them
• 1:03:10
  for different competition.
• 1:03:11
  Like it's great,
• 1:03:12
  but you have to make sure that.
• 1:03:14
  The seminar they did at
• 1:03:15
  Waterpalooza with where
• 1:03:18
  Brent Fikowski came and
• 1:03:19
  then he had elite athletes come.
• 1:03:22
  And so they could judge
• 1:03:23
  elite athletes at elite speed.
• 1:03:26
  and show them what you're
• 1:03:27
  looking for is like, it was just,
• 1:03:29
  that's never been done before.
• 1:03:31
  That's what needs to be in
• 1:03:32
  the judges courses though.
• 1:03:34
  And I'm still waiting for a
• 1:03:35
  proper judges course of like, to me,
• 1:03:38
  the judges courses are so easy to like,
• 1:03:40
  it's so obvious what they
• 1:03:41
  want us to look for in the athletes.
• 1:03:44
  No rep.
• 1:03:45
  Like it's so obvious.
• 1:03:47
  My first regionals
• 1:03:48
  experience judging an elite
• 1:03:50
  athlete almost blew my mind.
• 1:03:54
  Because all the local comps
• 1:03:55
  I did and all of the stuff
• 1:03:57
  I did to prepare myself did
• 1:03:58
  not prepare me for the
• 1:03:59
  speed at which the elite athletes move.
• 1:04:02
  No,
• 1:04:03
  like it's so easy to see people that
• 1:04:04
  move slow.
• 1:04:05
  You have to put top athletes
• 1:04:07
  that you've no wrapped in
• 1:04:09
  an online video.
• 1:04:10
  And that's what the advanced
• 1:04:12
  judges course should have been.
• 1:04:14
  to have a better eye for the
• 1:04:15
  advanced athletes.
• 1:04:16
  And instead it was this
• 1:04:18
  course that is great if
• 1:04:20
  you're judging at a main
• 1:04:22
  competition and you want to
• 1:04:23
  know what your job is as a
• 1:04:24
  judge or a head judge,
• 1:04:26
  or if something happens on
• 1:04:28
  the floor and you lift your hand up.
• 1:04:30
  Like it has nothing to do with the,
• 1:04:32
  like it needs to be,
• 1:04:34
  this is the advanced judge
• 1:04:35
  course to judge advanced athletes.
• 1:04:38
  The fast,
• 1:04:38
  the best of the best in the sport.
• 1:04:40
  That's what I thought I was paying for.
• 1:04:42
  and it was nothing like that
• 1:04:44
  borderline not all the
• 1:04:46
  borderline full speed yep
• 1:04:48
  yep no like that's what it
• 1:04:50
  should have been and it
• 1:04:51
  just wasn't I honestly I
• 1:04:55
  hope they take some videos
• 1:04:57
  I hope they find like the
• 1:05:00
  ones that had an like a
• 1:05:03
  super high number of needs
• 1:05:05
  review and post it for like explain like
• 1:05:12
  tell people I don't know
• 1:05:13
  what you were clicking
• 1:05:14
  needs review on here
• 1:05:15
  because this is a good
• 1:05:17
  video I I really wish they
• 1:05:19
  would find some of like the
• 1:05:20
  really like outlier numbers
• 1:05:23
  of what they think is good
• 1:05:24
  and be like man you guys
• 1:05:26
  missed the mark here yeah yeah
• 1:05:33
  Or just like, I don't know,
• 1:05:34
  pull like one person from
• 1:05:36
  each age and be like,
• 1:05:38
  here was a good one.
• 1:05:39
  Here was a bad one.
• 1:05:40
  Here's what we saw.
• 1:05:41
  This is the kind of stuff we
• 1:05:42
  would like you to look for.
• 1:05:46
  Like that advanced judges
• 1:05:47
  course is good for like three years now,
• 1:05:49
  but I still just don't think it,
• 1:05:51
  I don't think it met what
• 1:05:52
  it was supposed to.
• 1:05:53
  Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Like, I think it's good if,
• 1:05:55
  if you want to hire for
• 1:05:56
  in-person semifinals, that's it.
• 1:06:01
  All right.
• 1:06:02
  We'll move on from judging.
• 1:06:03
  We'll hit those another week, I'm sure.
• 1:06:08
  What I'm going to do is open
• 1:06:09
  it up for questions for
• 1:06:10
  Carolyn and Jamie for the
• 1:06:11
  next few minutes.
• 1:06:12
  While you guys are thinking
• 1:06:13
  of your questions and
• 1:06:14
  shooting them in the chat,
• 1:06:17
  I'm going to ask them a question.
• 1:06:19
  We have two events happening
• 1:06:21
  at the same time in the same weekend,
• 1:06:24
  French Throwdown and WFP Tour Event One.
• 1:06:28
  A lot of the challenger
• 1:06:29
  athletes going to the WFP,
• 1:06:32
  not the pro athletes,
• 1:06:33
  but the challenger athletes,
• 1:06:36
  are choosing to go to WFP
• 1:06:38
  over the French Throwdown.
• 1:06:41
  My question to you,
• 1:06:46
  is this possibly going to affect
• 1:06:51
  partnerships that CrossFit
• 1:06:53
  builds with local event
• 1:06:55
  providers when they're not
• 1:06:59
  getting the best athletes
• 1:07:00
  they can to come to their
• 1:07:02
  event because there's this
• 1:07:03
  other thing going on.
• 1:07:12
  I mean, we knew this was going to happen.
• 1:07:14
  Yeah, we did.
• 1:07:15
  I'm trying to think the
• 1:07:16
  impact that this is going
• 1:07:17
  to have on the event
• 1:07:19
  organizers of French Throwdown.
• 1:07:20
  Like,
• 1:07:22
  The French Throwdown's been
• 1:07:23
  around a long time.
• 1:07:25
  I don't know that this is
• 1:07:26
  going to affect their
• 1:07:28
  ticket sales for them.
• 1:07:30
  I honestly don't know how
• 1:07:33
  this... I can't imagine
• 1:07:35
  it's going to have a
• 1:07:36
  significant impact to the
• 1:07:37
  French Throwdown's bottom line.
• 1:07:44
  In terms of a competition
• 1:07:45
  that's more wide open for a
• 1:07:47
  qualifying spot...
• 1:07:50
  there it is right after when
• 1:07:51
  people are tired from the
• 1:07:53
  online semifinal and then
• 1:07:56
  like people are not there now.
• 1:07:59
  It's open.
• 1:08:03
  Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  I think I thought like the
• 1:08:06
  pro card members would,
• 1:08:07
  would go because they're
• 1:08:08
  being paid to go.
• 1:08:10
  But when the challenges are
• 1:08:12
  going with no shot at,
• 1:08:15
  with little shot at money, right.
• 1:08:17
  Only top five, get anything back.
• 1:08:20
  And it's a grand.
• 1:08:23
  Is it worth?
• 1:08:27
  Man, it just I didn't see this coming.
• 1:08:30
  Well,
• 1:08:30
  who out of those ten challengers that
• 1:08:33
  get to compete with the pros,
• 1:08:35
  who who would have actually
• 1:08:37
  gone to the French throwdown?
• 1:08:39
  There's like maybe one person, right?
• 1:08:41
  Like there's like there's.
• 1:08:42
  Well, the Europeans.
• 1:08:44
  It's a lot of the Norwegians, probably.
• 1:08:46
  There's not very many of them.
• 1:08:49
  There's like three Norwegians in there.
• 1:08:51
  There's a big article on barbell spin.
• 1:08:53
  I'm pulling it up.
• 1:08:53
  There's like three
• 1:08:54
  Norwegians in the top ten.
• 1:08:55
  That Krieger training camp
• 1:08:57
  group is so good.
• 1:09:01
  They must be confident that
• 1:09:03
  they are going to get their
• 1:09:05
  pro card and they're banking on that.
• 1:09:10
  Especially with the finals being in Europe,
• 1:09:12
  I think that they're trying
• 1:09:14
  to get some points and
• 1:09:18
  I mean,
• 1:09:18
  you're only going to want to fly
• 1:09:20
  over there once.
• 1:09:21
  Linda is here at TTT.
• 1:09:25
  Lives here.
• 1:09:27
  Here's the list.
• 1:09:29
  It is Colin Bosshard, Fabian Benito,
• 1:09:33
  Tola Maracanio, Andrea Solberg,
• 1:09:35
  Ella Wilkinson, Linda Kiesman,
• 1:09:38
  Oda Lundefgem, and then Jennifer Muir,
• 1:09:45
  Elena Caratala,
• 1:09:47
  Sana, who, uh, uh,
• 1:09:49
  that's her say Elena Cara, Tala, Sana,
• 1:09:51
  who, uh, and nor G bleaker.
• 1:09:53
  Yeah.
• 1:09:55
  Are those athletes going to
• 1:09:57
  the wad to the wad fest one
• 1:09:59
  or whatever the span?
• 1:10:00
  No, they are.
• 1:10:01
  They have accepted their
• 1:10:03
  invite to the world fitness
• 1:10:06
  projects tour event one.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  But are,
• 1:10:09
  are they going to the first European one?
• 1:10:12
  Not the second European,
• 1:10:13
  like the French showdown is
• 1:10:14
  the second European.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah.
• 1:10:19
  Because that's a lot of competitions.
• 1:10:20
  It's three back-to-back weekends.
• 1:10:22
  It's WODfest or WODlin, whatever one is.
• 1:10:25
  Then it's the online semifinals.
• 1:10:27
  And then it's the WFP.
• 1:10:28
  Boom, boom, boom.
• 1:10:29
  Like, the Europeans got screwed in this.
• 1:10:32
  Like, majorly.
• 1:10:33
  Like, majorly.
• 1:10:35
  Because if you're a top
• 1:10:38
  European who is also a Games hopeful...
• 1:10:45
  You're literally needing to
• 1:10:47
  compete back-to-back,
• 1:10:48
  and you have to be traveling.
• 1:10:49
  There's just no good.
• 1:10:53
  Lynn says,
• 1:10:54
  Linda is currently at Europe
• 1:10:56
  since last year's games, but yes,
• 1:10:58
  she's all in trying for WFP.
• 1:11:01
  That's Linda Kiesman.
• 1:11:02
  I could have sworn I saw her
• 1:11:03
  in a TTT video, but that's possible.
• 1:11:06
  It might have been a really long time ago.
• 1:11:07
  Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  CrossFit said that list
• 1:11:14
  sounded like all the people
• 1:11:15
  on be friendly fitness.
• 1:11:15
  God.
• 1:11:15
  I mean, they're good.
• 1:11:18
  Those are good names.
• 1:11:19
  They are good names.
• 1:11:20
  We just care about the North American ones,
• 1:11:22
  but all those names, they're like,
• 1:11:23
  I recognize all of them and
• 1:11:25
  they're literally at every competition.
• 1:11:26
  Great.
• 1:11:27
  Like, I think,
• 1:11:28
  I think Brian's done a good
• 1:11:29
  job of like the European athletes.
• 1:11:33
  And cause like a lot of them,
• 1:11:34
  like I know now from the online qualifier,
• 1:11:36
  I'm like, Oh, these are good.
• 1:11:38
  Especially the Krieger group.
• 1:11:39
  Like that,
• 1:11:40
  those no regions are definitely common.
• 1:11:44
  Phil B said, would they have drew,
• 1:11:45
  drew a crowd?
• 1:11:46
  Europe draws crowds.
• 1:11:48
  Always pulled out all the time.
• 1:11:52
  Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  That's always been like
• 1:11:54
  probably a top two of the
• 1:11:57
  European competitions.
• 1:11:59
  Like they always do well.
• 1:12:03
  We already know the workouts
• 1:12:04
  for Wadland and all of them,
• 1:12:08
  or I don't know, just a couple.
• 1:12:10
  I think just a few.
• 1:12:11
  Well,
• 1:12:12
  I think they're programmed by mayhem.
• 1:12:13
  So I think just take the
• 1:12:14
  classic a little bit and put it back.
• 1:12:18
  And that may be a choice on
• 1:12:20
  some of those athletes who are like,
• 1:12:23
  that's not going to be,
• 1:12:24
  I'm not making top two.
• 1:12:25
  I already know.
• 1:12:27
  And so let's go do this WFP.
• 1:12:31
  This is what I get.
• 1:12:32
  Like if you are,
• 1:12:34
  and just because I noticed
• 1:12:35
  that Colton Mertens has a
• 1:12:36
  legit shot at be getting a pro card,
• 1:12:39
  right?
• 1:12:41
  That is guaranteed cash.
• 1:12:43
  I get it.
• 1:12:45
  I get throwing your hat in
• 1:12:46
  the ring to go after it.
• 1:12:49
  But when you're finishing
• 1:12:50
  like down the list of the
• 1:12:52
  qualifiers and you're in
• 1:12:53
  the challenger series,
• 1:12:54
  getting the lower points,
• 1:12:56
  you really have to decide,
• 1:12:58
  is that going to be enough
• 1:12:59
  if you qualify for the next
• 1:13:01
  one to launch you into the finals?
• 1:13:03
  Could be.
• 1:13:06
  You got to take that.
• 1:13:06
  You got to,
• 1:13:07
  I feel like you got to take
• 1:13:08
  that shot because otherwise people,
• 1:13:11
  all people are going to
• 1:13:12
  think that and something,
• 1:13:13
  everyone's not going to
• 1:13:14
  make one of the events and you,
• 1:13:16
  you blew your shot because you didn't go.
• 1:13:19
  I mean,
• 1:13:19
  I think a lot of the pro athletes
• 1:13:21
  are all banking on the
• 1:13:22
  online semifinals and
• 1:13:23
  they're competing
• 1:13:23
  back-to-back weekends right there.
• 1:13:25
  And the pro athletes aren't
• 1:13:27
  even going to be fresh at the WFP.
• 1:13:29
  I don't get why the WFP had
• 1:13:30
  to be that weekend.
• 1:13:31
  I think it's a horrible
• 1:13:32
  weekend when all of your
• 1:13:34
  athletes are looking to do
• 1:13:36
  the online semifinals and
• 1:13:39
  you're putting them in a
• 1:13:40
  position to go back-to-back weekends.
• 1:13:43
  I think that's dumb.
• 1:13:44
  I don't understand why they
• 1:13:45
  put that WFP event right there.
• 1:13:48
  I'm sure it came down to venue,
• 1:13:51
  like getting a venue.
• 1:13:53
  I, cause I, I don't know.
• 1:13:57
  Maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:13:58
  Maybe they are of the,
• 1:14:00
  the idea that they're going
• 1:14:01
  to be able to compete head to head,
• 1:14:04
  but I don't know.
• 1:14:05
  Cause I I'm bummed that it's that weekend.
• 1:14:07
  Cause my wife's having surgery.
• 1:14:08
  So it makes like me getting there really,
• 1:14:12
  really hard.
• 1:14:14
  And I wanted to see what it
• 1:14:15
  looked like the first time out.
• 1:14:18
  Me too.
• 1:14:19
  Sad.
• 1:14:21
  If you would have just waved
• 1:14:22
  your damn dumbbell.
• 1:14:23
  Damn it.
• 1:14:26
  Rookie.
• 1:14:27
  Maybe they'll give you a second chance.
• 1:14:29
  Have you emailed them and said that?
• 1:14:33
  Precedence was set over here in CrossFit.
• 1:14:34
  Just give them an example from CrossFit.
• 1:14:42
  Better shot at trying to get
• 1:14:43
  your pro card than top two at semis.
• 1:14:44
  I honestly think maybe.
• 1:14:46
  I think so.
• 1:14:47
  I agree with that.
• 1:14:49
  I think there's less people
• 1:14:50
  that are doing the WFP,
• 1:14:53
  and you have a better shot there.
• 1:14:54
  Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  And even if you finish last
• 1:14:59
  place in the pro card,
• 1:15:00
  you're getting money,
• 1:15:01
  and at least now the top
• 1:15:02
  five positions of the
• 1:15:04
  challenger gets money as well.
• 1:15:07
  Lynn's going.
• 1:15:07
  She's excited for the
• 1:15:08
  vendors and the meet and greets.
• 1:15:13
  My plan is, at the very least,
• 1:15:15
  going over on Saturday.
• 1:15:17
  Because I can drive it and
• 1:15:18
  drive home that night.
• 1:15:19
  If I can get someone just to
• 1:15:20
  stay with Julie that day,
• 1:15:23
  then I can drive over and drive back.
• 1:15:26
  Because it's only two and a half hours.
• 1:15:29
  So I'm hoping I can do that
• 1:15:33
  and at least see what it
• 1:15:33
  looks like and what they're
• 1:15:35
  doing with the community.
• 1:15:37
  Because I think that's where
• 1:15:40
  things are missing in the
• 1:15:42
  CrossFit in-person events.
• 1:15:45
  I thought that like
• 1:15:46
  syndicate really stepped it
• 1:15:47
  up with that outdoor team
• 1:15:50
  event that they held last year.
• 1:15:53
  I just wish more people knew about it.
• 1:15:55
  Cause it was, I mean,
• 1:15:57
  if you could add the chance
• 1:15:58
  to compete against rich and Rory, like,
• 1:16:02
  why not?
• 1:16:03
  I think Boz competed too, right?
• 1:16:04
  Rory Boz, rich, like to,
• 1:16:09
  to take the floor with
• 1:16:09
  those guys and in a fun competition.
• 1:16:11
  Why not?
• 1:16:15
  Uh,
• 1:16:15
  any questions for Jamie and Carolyn
• 1:16:20
  tonight?
• 1:16:22
  I missed a lot of stuff that went by.
• 1:16:24
  Okay.
• 1:16:25
  Doesn't have to be about CrossFit.
• 1:16:32
  It can be anything.
• 1:16:41
  Some judging stuff.
• 1:16:42
  David Winslow says event four.
• 1:16:45
  I think the judges were
• 1:16:46
  picky because it
• 1:16:47
  specifically said that both
• 1:16:48
  feet must be in line on the
• 1:16:49
  ground after crossing the
• 1:16:51
  fifteen foot line in the demo video.
• 1:16:53
  The athlete showed two
• 1:16:53
  different standards and.
• 1:16:58
  Carolyn, where are you doing semis?
• 1:17:01
  In affiliate,
• 1:17:02
  my home affiliate and then NorCal.
• 1:17:08
  And then if needed,
• 1:17:09
  whatever this last chance
• 1:17:10
  qualifier is that they
• 1:17:12
  haven't talked about one bit.
• 1:17:14
  I'm telling you, it's the community cup.
• 1:17:16
  Do you think like that
• 1:17:17
  anyone can do the last chance qualifier?
• 1:17:19
  Like anyone can do it?
• 1:17:20
  Or do you have to play a
• 1:17:23
  certain amount in the
• 1:17:24
  semifinals or like of the
• 1:17:26
  in affiliate or in person?
• 1:17:28
  Like,
• 1:17:29
  Yeah,
• 1:17:29
  I think anybody can do it if you're
• 1:17:30
  in the two percent.
• 1:17:31
  Yeah, if you were.
• 1:17:32
  Yeah,
• 1:17:32
  I think anybody just going to be like
• 1:17:34
  three of the community
• 1:17:36
  event workouts that are program.
• 1:17:37
  I mean, I think that's my best shot.
• 1:17:43
  Lynn says,
• 1:17:44
  when are we getting the
• 1:17:44
  Clydesdale meet and greet?
• 1:17:46
  You got it last year in
• 1:17:47
  Knoxville at the crown.
• 1:17:50
  You got two of us.
• 1:17:54
  And you got to watch Carolyn compete.
• 1:17:56
  Yeah, we were all three there.
• 1:18:00
  What was the favorite
• 1:18:03
  workout for the ladies?
• 1:18:12
  I think the bar muscle-up one was fine.
• 1:18:16
  I liked the bar muscle-up one.
• 1:18:19
  Probably the three-rounder.
• 1:18:21
  That was a hard workout.
• 1:18:23
  Yeah, that was tough.
• 1:18:25
  That was a good workout.
• 1:18:26
  I thought that was a good workout.
• 1:18:30
  Event four I thought was an easy workout.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  Repeatable.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah.
• 1:18:38
  Yeah.
• 1:18:42
  I enjoyed doing the snatches
• 1:18:43
  because it was good
• 1:18:44
  practice for me and I had
• 1:18:45
  some good tunes going on.
• 1:18:48
  But I wouldn't say it's like my favorite,
• 1:18:51
  but it was a good practice
• 1:18:53
  for me to practice my
• 1:18:54
  Isabel and I hadn't done that one before.
• 1:18:58
  Speaking of tunes,
• 1:18:59
  I don't know if you heard
• 1:19:00
  Corey talk on Wednesday
• 1:19:01
  that he was all ramped up
• 1:19:02
  to do one of the workouts.
• 1:19:05
  And like a song was on, it was his vibe.
• 1:19:08
  He was getting it and he's like, all right,
• 1:19:09
  I'm ready to go.
• 1:19:10
  Let's cause the right songs on let's go.
• 1:19:13
  And he like gets halfway
• 1:19:14
  down the lane and his wife
• 1:19:16
  turns the music cause she
• 1:19:17
  doesn't like the song and
• 1:19:19
  he loses his mind.
• 1:19:22
  Typical wives.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah.
• 1:19:26
  She should know better.
• 1:19:27
  My wife hits the radio
• 1:19:28
  button so much when I'm
• 1:19:30
  like listening to a song and jamming out.
• 1:19:33
  And then she'll be like, I hate that song.
• 1:19:34
  Boom.
• 1:19:39
  Are you kidding me?
• 1:19:42
  So I felt his pain.
• 1:19:43
  And for that, for event four,
• 1:19:46
  I asked that specific
• 1:19:48
  question to CrossFit.
• 1:19:49
  They didn't pick it.
• 1:19:50
  I literally asked that
• 1:19:51
  question I was like can you
• 1:19:54
  turn do you have to finish
• 1:19:56
  facing that do it that way
• 1:19:58
  then turn I was like
• 1:19:58
  because over ten times it
• 1:20:00
  would be faster to turn
• 1:20:01
  around and they never
• 1:20:02
  answered it and they didn't
• 1:20:03
  put it in the questions
• 1:20:05
  that they picked and like
• 1:20:07
  that's the result of a
• 1:20:08
  bunch of people also doing
• 1:20:09
  that like it's that was a
• 1:20:11
  legit question of people racing and
• 1:20:16
  Like in a competition,
• 1:20:18
  you can always do that.
• 1:20:19
  Correct.
• 1:20:20
  Always.
• 1:20:21
  You never have to,
• 1:20:22
  you just have to finish.
• 1:20:23
  You have to finish the line and your hips,
• 1:20:25
  hips need to be extended.
• 1:20:26
  We've never needed to be feeding.
• 1:20:28
  Like when you,
• 1:20:29
  when you go through your
• 1:20:30
  feet can be like off to an angle.
• 1:20:32
  It doesn't matter.
• 1:20:33
  It's your hip extension.
• 1:20:34
  And like, you've gone through.
• 1:20:37
  um anytime that that that
• 1:20:39
  people have done lunges
• 1:20:41
  they've turned around but
• 1:20:42
  they just never answered
• 1:20:43
  the question I think that
• 1:20:44
  was a mistake for them to
• 1:20:45
  not address that question
• 1:20:47
  because that's a legit like
• 1:20:50
  question that I agree in a
• 1:20:53
  sprint workout that is the
• 1:20:55
  reason that that workout
• 1:20:57
  specifically is getting
• 1:20:58
  hammered by for sure it is
• 1:21:01
  it and it's annoying
• 1:21:02
  because I'm like well
• 1:21:07
  CrossFit asks,
• 1:21:07
  are we going to be
• 1:21:08
  disappointed by every
• 1:21:09
  stream and production after
• 1:21:10
  the Mayhem one?
• 1:21:12
  If you did not see the
• 1:21:13
  debrief by Rich and crew,
• 1:21:16
  they paid nearly two
• 1:21:18
  hundred thousand dollars for that stream.
• 1:21:20
  Wow.
• 1:21:21
  It was great, though.
• 1:21:22
  They did a great job.
• 1:21:23
  They did.
• 1:21:24
  Which he explained why they
• 1:21:25
  started it in the afternoon.
• 1:21:29
  Are you before I say the age group?
• 1:21:33
  No.
• 1:21:34
  Before my next thing.
• 1:21:41
  So I was listening to Bill
• 1:21:43
  Grundler the other night
• 1:21:44
  talk about someone said how
• 1:21:46
  great Rich and Angelo did in the booth.
• 1:21:49
  And Bill really picked it
• 1:21:53
  apart saying that they
• 1:21:55
  talked over each other,
• 1:21:56
  that there is a format for
• 1:21:59
  giving color analysts and
• 1:22:00
  giving the play-by-play guy
• 1:22:02
  their space and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:22:05
  We are in an era now where
• 1:22:08
  alternative broadcasts of
• 1:22:09
  sporting events are becoming very,
• 1:22:12
  very popular.
• 1:22:13
  If you watch the Manning cast,
• 1:22:15
  they don't even pay
• 1:22:16
  attention to the game some of the times.
• 1:22:19
  If you watch Pat McAfee's
• 1:22:21
  alternate broadcast college football game,
• 1:22:24
  they're not even paying attention.
• 1:22:26
  They are there to entertain,
• 1:22:27
  and the game is on while it's happening,
• 1:22:29
  and it's like you're
• 1:22:30
  hanging out with your friends.
• 1:22:32
  That is what I felt like I
• 1:22:33
  got at the Mayhem Classic.
• 1:22:37
  I felt like it was just a
• 1:22:39
  bunch of dudes hanging out,
• 1:22:41
  talking about what was going on.
• 1:22:43
  And yeah,
• 1:22:44
  they went off course a couple times.
• 1:22:46
  But I think it also made
• 1:22:47
  Sean very loose and funny.
• 1:22:50
  And I thought it was awesome.
• 1:22:54
  It doesn't mean I want every
• 1:22:55
  broadcast to be that way.
• 1:22:58
  Right.
• 1:22:58
  But it was refreshing in this moment.
• 1:23:01
  like bill will have his
• 1:23:02
  style and he's used to his
• 1:23:05
  way so he'll be more
• 1:23:06
  critiquing of those two as
• 1:23:10
  you know he would see
• 1:23:11
  himself and what he would
• 1:23:12
  do but I think it's okay
• 1:23:14
  for someone to have a
• 1:23:15
  different style as well and
• 1:23:16
  like you said um they
• 1:23:19
  brought something different
• 1:23:21
  and you know it might not
• 1:23:23
  be for everyone but I
• 1:23:24
  thought that they did
• 1:23:26
  a good job.
• 1:23:27
  And yeah, it was, I mean,
• 1:23:29
  they were chirping the athletes.
• 1:23:30
  Like you wouldn't see that
• 1:23:31
  kind of stuff in a
• 1:23:32
  professional like broadcast,
• 1:23:35
  but for the people that know, you know,
• 1:23:38
  Rich and Angelo and can
• 1:23:40
  kind of appreciate their
• 1:23:43
  thought process on the
• 1:23:44
  workout or them knowing the athletes,
• 1:23:46
  it just brought a different perspective.
• 1:23:48
  And I thought that it was still very good.
• 1:23:51
  Corey's got a point here.
• 1:23:52
  I'm actually surprised that
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  bill was so critical.
• 1:23:56
  because of the way like that
• 1:23:58
  went with john at crash
• 1:24:01
  like I I don't know I just
• 1:24:04
  like that went well at
• 1:24:05
  crash I felt like again
• 1:24:08
  it's different like I'm
• 1:24:09
  cool with different I don't
• 1:24:11
  need the same thing over
• 1:24:12
  and over again but you know
• 1:24:16
  right but again we don't
• 1:24:17
  know maybe he didn't get
• 1:24:18
  asked and then he he wanted
• 1:24:20
  to be there and it could be
• 1:24:23
  him being critical in that
• 1:24:25
  position because you know,
• 1:24:27
  you don't know.
• 1:24:28
  I get, I get what he's, he's getting out.
• 1:24:32
  I get it.
• 1:24:32
  Traditional booth has rules.
• 1:24:34
  Right.
• 1:24:35
  But we don't,
• 1:24:36
  there weren't an era of
• 1:24:37
  sports where traditional
• 1:24:38
  booth isn't always what is
• 1:24:40
  most popular and it's okay.
• 1:24:43
  If you're trying to grow the sport,
• 1:24:44
  we need to try different things,
• 1:24:45
  new things.
• 1:24:47
  That's all I'm saying.
• 1:24:48
  Yeah.
• 1:24:48
  We can evolve like in terms
• 1:24:50
  of what's popular.
• 1:24:52
  Yeah.
• 1:24:54
  And I love Bill.
• 1:24:55
  I think he's a good color
• 1:24:56
  analyst and I love what he does.
• 1:25:01
  And so when you get a little
• 1:25:01
  bit of this and a little bit of that,
• 1:25:03
  it makes for a nice season.
• 1:25:04
  And he did a great job with
• 1:25:06
  the masters last year.
• 1:25:08
  Like he was, he was doing like all,
• 1:25:11
  all the divisions for the
• 1:25:12
  entire day and crushed it.
• 1:25:15
  He did.
• 1:25:16
  Which is not something
• 1:25:18
  that's like easy to do to
• 1:25:20
  just rewatch the same
• 1:25:21
  workout for all of those heats.
• 1:25:22
  But yeah, so it's, yeah,
• 1:25:25
  it's a different taste for
• 1:25:26
  different people.
• 1:25:27
  On a lighter note,
• 1:25:28
  any vacations planned for
• 1:25:29
  this year and where after Cancun, Jamie?
• 1:25:32
  No vacations planned.
• 1:25:35
  Carolyn?
• 1:25:36
  NorCal?
• 1:25:39
  I rarely go on a vacation
• 1:25:40
  that's not like sports related.
• 1:25:43
  Right.
• 1:25:45
  Um, I mean,
• 1:25:45
  I'll be in California at some
• 1:25:47
  point in the summer and that's about it.
• 1:25:51
  I'm going to Montana in a week and a half.
• 1:25:54
  Really?
• 1:25:55
  My daughter's moving.
• 1:25:55
  Oh yeah.
• 1:25:56
  That's right.
• 1:25:56
  You, I have to go.
• 1:25:57
  I remember.
• 1:25:58
  So we're loading up the pickup truck,
• 1:26:02
  headed out.
• 1:26:03
  We're going to Mount
• 1:26:03
  Rushmore and the Badlands,
• 1:26:05
  and then we're going to Montana.
• 1:26:06
  That's awesome.
• 1:26:09
  So that'll be fun.
• 1:26:11
  Nice bonding moment with my daughter too,
• 1:26:13
  when it's just her and I.
• 1:26:16
  um is that a shower behind
• 1:26:21
  no that's a like a patio
• 1:26:24
  another closet oh oh you're
• 1:26:27
  in a bedroom I'm in my like
• 1:26:29
  my guest bedroom I'm in my
• 1:26:30
  office okay I was doing
• 1:26:32
  some corrections clock says
• 1:26:35
  unpopular opinion rich was
• 1:26:36
  dead weight angela was the
• 1:26:37
  broadcasting revelation
• 1:26:40
  they actually both say that rich is like,
• 1:26:42
  I don't know anything about any athlete.
• 1:26:43
  And Angelo knew what Angelo
• 1:26:46
  knew what they had for
• 1:26:46
  breakfast two days ago.
• 1:26:48
  Like, well,
• 1:26:50
  Angelo is still involved like
• 1:26:51
  in the sport competing.
• 1:26:53
  So he's doing a lot of competition still.
• 1:26:55
  He knows the athletes.
• 1:26:56
  Like,
• 1:26:57
  I think rich has been very busy with
• 1:26:59
  other types of sports and hunting.
• 1:27:01
  And I don't think he's as in
• 1:27:05
  tune with everything as before.
• 1:27:09
  The other thing I have to
• 1:27:10
  say is I was watching the
• 1:27:11
  Chicago bears pod or ch geo
• 1:27:13
  podcast the other day for
• 1:27:14
  the bears and someone named
• 1:27:16
  clock came into the chat
• 1:27:18
  and they had the same icon.
• 1:27:20
  And so I didn't know if
• 1:27:21
  clock was a bears fan or if
• 1:27:23
  it's someone impersonating
• 1:27:24
  clock in the bears chat.
• 1:27:25
  Clock is everywhere.
• 1:27:35
  rich did call everyone a
• 1:27:36
  good dude he said that a
• 1:27:38
  lot oh man there's a lot uh
• 1:27:49
  scott wishing you great
• 1:27:50
  weather yeah that's gonna
• 1:27:51
  be great favorite song oh
• 1:27:54
  missed it man favorite song
• 1:27:57
  right now man I don't even
• 1:28:02
  know I haven't even
• 1:28:03
  listened to the radio in a while
• 1:28:07
  I don't really have a
• 1:28:07
  favorite song right now I I
• 1:28:11
  tend to listen to the same
• 1:28:12
  stuff like all the time um
• 1:28:14
  a lot of whitney is on my
• 1:28:16
  playlist that's probably my
• 1:28:17
  favorite I am obsessed with
• 1:28:20
  teddy swims right now he's
• 1:28:22
  got a great voice any I
• 1:28:24
  have both of his albums I
• 1:28:25
  can just put them on play
• 1:28:26
  them cover to cover and I i
• 1:28:29
  They're just amazing.
• 1:28:30
  I think he is an amazing human being.
• 1:28:33
  Uh,
• 1:28:34
  and I just got the Elton John Brandi
• 1:28:36
  Carlile album and it is phenomenal.
• 1:28:39
  Uh,
• 1:28:42
  who believes in angels is an awesome
• 1:28:43
  song.
• 1:28:45
  If you've not heard it,
• 1:28:45
  I have not heard it.
• 1:28:48
  I mostly just listened to Morgan Wallen.
• 1:28:49
  So you love him.
• 1:28:54
  You love him, Scott.
• 1:28:56
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:28:56
  On the road every morning.
• 1:28:59
  I think he has a good voice
• 1:29:01
  I don't know if I like him
• 1:29:02
  as a person for some of the
• 1:29:03
  things that he has said and
• 1:29:05
  done but his voice is good
• 1:29:09
  lynn says pink pink pony
• 1:29:11
  club that's a banger I love
• 1:29:12
  that song uh what clock
• 1:29:16
  says there's an army of
• 1:29:17
  clocks on youtube teddy
• 1:29:20
  swims is ridiculous
• 1:29:25
  we my wife watches american
• 1:29:27
  idol I just kind of hear it
• 1:29:28
  in the background sometimes
• 1:29:30
  and like people try to sing
• 1:29:31
  his and they try to sing
• 1:29:33
  him like him don't try to
• 1:29:35
  sing like him you nobody
• 1:29:36
  can make it do it your own
• 1:29:39
  way but don't like try to
• 1:29:40
  sing like him because man
• 1:29:44
  it's soulful uh random but
• 1:29:48
  favorite thing watching
• 1:29:49
  everyone's videos was
• 1:29:50
  everyone introducing
• 1:29:51
  themselves a thousand times yeah
• 1:29:55
  It is the little idiosyncrasies of, like,
• 1:29:58
  Travis Mayer introducing
• 1:30:00
  himself in a wacky way on every video.
• 1:30:03
  Because you could tell he
• 1:30:04
  was bored being the head judge.
• 1:30:06
  So one time he has the hood up.
• 1:30:08
  One time he has his shirt over his head.
• 1:30:10
  One time he's like... He made it fun.
• 1:30:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:30:16
  I would just get nervous
• 1:30:17
  that I'm forgetting
• 1:30:18
  something because I forgot
• 1:30:19
  to say fitness twenty five
• 1:30:20
  on one of my attempts for event four.
• 1:30:24
  So after that,
• 1:30:24
  I was like fitness twenty five,
• 1:30:26
  fitness twenty five,
• 1:30:26
  like ten thousand times.
• 1:30:28
  So I'm like,
• 1:30:28
  I don't know if I'll be able
• 1:30:29
  to if I'll have to mute
• 1:30:30
  this for like the song purposes.
• 1:30:33
  So I'm like just saying it so many times.
• 1:30:38
  Yeah, I just put a whiteboard up.
• 1:30:40
  Yeah, that'll be what I'll do, I think,
• 1:30:42
  the next time, because.
• 1:30:44
  That seemed to be the new trend.
• 1:30:45
  Yeah.
• 1:30:45
  The new trend was the
• 1:30:46
  whiteboard with your judges' names on it,
• 1:30:49
  all that stuff to kind of
• 1:30:51
  get it all done.
• 1:30:56
  Lynn says, Carolyn was like,
• 1:30:58
  this is event four, three, no, two.
• 1:31:00
  I do that a lot.
• 1:31:02
  What are we doing?
• 1:31:03
  I don't know.
• 1:31:04
  The one with the burpee.
• 1:31:04
  The one with.
• 1:31:05
  Yeah.
• 1:31:05
  Okay.
• 1:31:12
  I love how the password
• 1:31:13
  feels like a coupon code.
• 1:31:17
  Buy one,
• 1:31:17
  get one free on your CrossFit workouts.
• 1:31:21
  I did like that they
• 1:31:23
  released them early on the Monday, though,
• 1:31:25
  this year versus just the floor plan.
• 1:31:27
  Did you like knowing the
• 1:31:28
  workouts on the Monday just
• 1:31:29
  to plan your weekend?
• 1:31:31
  Yeah, that helped.
• 1:31:32
  I mean, me coming home that Monday,
• 1:31:34
  like those came out while I
• 1:31:35
  was at the Cancun airport.
• 1:31:37
  So I would have been pretty stressed.
• 1:31:42
  not being able to plan like
• 1:31:44
  how long the workouts were
• 1:31:47
  and what kind of timeframe I needed.
• 1:31:48
  And we had like the judges that you need.
• 1:31:50
  I think like telling them like,
• 1:31:52
  I'm going to do these two
• 1:31:53
  that are going to take this long.
• 1:31:54
  I'm going to need this much recovery.
• 1:31:55
  Like with,
• 1:31:56
  if they had just released that
• 1:31:57
  the Thursday and you're
• 1:31:59
  trying to plan with your judges,
• 1:32:01
  I think it's like, it's very hard.
• 1:32:04
  Yeah.
• 1:32:05
  Going on two people's
• 1:32:06
  schedules to do things.
• 1:32:08
  I was surprised the code was fitness.
• 1:32:09
  Twenty five.
• 1:32:10
  Also,
• 1:32:11
  were you not like a blue light
• 1:32:13
  special on fitness?
• 1:32:14
  Twenty five people.
• 1:32:15
  There's twenty five blue light special.
• 1:32:18
  No,
• 1:32:18
  but like I thought that like like
• 1:32:20
  normally we because people
• 1:32:21
  have all like are stopping
• 1:32:23
  or not saying CrossFit anymore.
• 1:32:25
  They're saying that they're fitnessing.
• 1:32:26
  So I was surprised that the
• 1:32:27
  password was fitness.
• 1:32:29
  Twenty five like versus
• 1:32:32
  CrossFit something.
• 1:32:33
  I really thought it was
• 1:32:34
  going to be like Albany or
• 1:32:36
  something like that.
• 1:32:36
  Yeah.
• 1:32:37
  I did the name of something.
• 1:32:38
  Yeah.
• 1:32:42
  Uh, Denise says earlier,
• 1:32:43
  at least was good.
• 1:32:47
  It just, it just helps with scheduling.
• 1:32:49
  Okay.
• 1:32:59
  All right.
• 1:32:59
  Well, we've had fun tonight.
• 1:33:01
  We have reached the ninety minute mark.
• 1:33:03
  And what we have going on
• 1:33:06
  this week is next weekend
• 1:33:07
  we'll have Copa Sur.
• 1:33:09
  So we will have two more men,
• 1:33:14
  two more women.
• 1:33:15
  Right?
• 1:33:15
  Yep.
• 1:33:16
  I thought they got two.
• 1:33:19
  Is that the two one?
• 1:33:21
  Which one gets one?
• 1:33:22
  Africa.
• 1:33:24
  Africa.
• 1:33:25
  Africa, okay.
• 1:33:26
  I think South America gets two.
• 1:33:27
  They do.
• 1:33:28
  Africa's the only one that gets one.
• 1:33:30
  In Dave's weekend review, he's like, oh,
• 1:33:32
  this is the top thirty that
• 1:33:33
  we're gonna get because you
• 1:33:35
  can go anywhere.
• 1:33:36
  And I'm like,
• 1:33:36
  does he not know his own rules?
• 1:33:38
  I was so angry watching that.
• 1:33:40
  Because I was like, no, it's not.
• 1:33:42
  I was like, yeah, I was angry.
• 1:33:47
  No one has talked about that,
• 1:33:48
  but I was like,
• 1:33:48
  he does not know his own rules.
• 1:33:49
  I'm like, there's restrictions on these.
• 1:33:52
  Yeah.
• 1:33:53
  Europe didn't put any restrictions, right?
• 1:33:54
  They didn't got to put their
• 1:33:55
  restrictions on it.
• 1:33:57
  So he probably doesn't even know.
• 1:34:00
  Wow.
• 1:34:02
  Yeah,
• 1:34:03
  someone's got to let him know that
• 1:34:04
  the top thirty is not the top thirty.
• 1:34:07
  Agreed.
• 1:34:08
  We need to write that in the
• 1:34:09
  comments so it'll come up
• 1:34:11
  on Week in Review.
• 1:34:13
  Are you aware that there's
• 1:34:15
  restrictions on these
• 1:34:17
  in-person semifinals?
• 1:34:19
  It is not what you think.
• 1:34:22
  I'm trying to live.
• 1:34:23
  Copasaur in years past has
• 1:34:25
  always been in Spanish.
• 1:34:27
  My D in high school Spanish
• 1:34:29
  does not help me very much
• 1:34:32
  when I'm listening to the
• 1:34:32
  broadcast at Copasaur,
• 1:34:35
  but at least you get to,
• 1:34:36
  they do a good job of like videoing it.
• 1:34:38
  You can see it, you can watch it.
• 1:34:40
  Just following along with
• 1:34:41
  the commentary is not easy
• 1:34:44
  unless you are bilingual
• 1:34:46
  with Spanish being the other language.
• 1:34:51
  uh the top thirty is not the
• 1:34:53
  top thirty but the standard
• 1:34:54
  is the standard well except
• 1:34:56
  for the point time except for
• 1:35:02
  all right guys so copacera
• 1:35:03
  this week uh it is the
• 1:35:06
  thirteenth so we have what
• 1:35:08
  next monday monday after
• 1:35:09
  our show you guys will get
• 1:35:11
  your final results on the h
• 1:35:13
  groups um and then we'll
• 1:35:16
  we'll have four new
• 1:35:18
  athletes punching their
• 1:35:19
  tickets to the crossfit
• 1:35:20
  games and I think the
• 1:35:22
  weekend after that is wadland
• 1:35:26
  So we will follow along with all of that.
• 1:35:29
  We will follow along with
• 1:35:30
  everything going on WFP and
• 1:35:31
  see where we're at with that.
• 1:35:34
  I will say this for WFP.
• 1:35:35
  This is my last parting shot.
• 1:35:38
  WFP, great media releases.
• 1:35:42
  Everybody in the media gets
• 1:35:43
  an email from them saying
• 1:35:44
  what is coming out, what is going on.
• 1:35:47
  When I was trying to find
• 1:35:48
  this judge thing and trying
• 1:35:50
  to find that announcements page,
• 1:35:53
  which you cannot link to anyway.
• 1:35:55
  You have to go directly to the page.
• 1:35:59
  CrossFit needs to take a note.
• 1:36:03
  with their media releases.
• 1:36:04
  One thing's on Instagram,
• 1:36:06
  one thing's on Dave's page,
• 1:36:07
  one thing's on Dave's Week in Review,
• 1:36:09
  one thing is on a press release,
• 1:36:13
  and you have no idea where
• 1:36:14
  the hell anything is.
• 1:36:17
  So it would be really nice
• 1:36:19
  if they were good at the
• 1:36:21
  press releases like the WFP.
• 1:36:23
  That is one area that they
• 1:36:26
  need to take a note.
• 1:36:29
  other than that we're gonna
• 1:36:30
  head out of here thank you
• 1:36:31
  so much for being here
• 1:36:33
  tonight uh it was our first
• 1:36:34
  night of phone calls we got
• 1:36:35
  a couple thank you denise
• 1:36:37
  and lynn for calling into
• 1:36:38
  the show you guys were
• 1:36:39
  awesome and uh can't wait
• 1:36:42
  to see you guys again next
• 1:36:43
  sunday night I'm gonna say
• 1:36:46
  happy birthday to my son
• 1:36:47
  tomorrow he turns eighteen
• 1:36:49
  oh big eighteen wow that's
• 1:36:52
  a good one I know
• 1:36:55
  that guys thank you so much
• 1:36:57
  for being here thank you
• 1:36:58
  for playing a part in what
• 1:36:59
  we do and we'll see
• 1:37:00
  everybody next time on
• 1:37:03
  sunday sunday sunday night
• 1:37:05
  crossfit talk fitness special