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- 0:00Picture this.
- 0:01You feel the strike.
- 0:02The rod loads up, line screaming, drag singing, and for a few
- 0:07seconds, you're winning.
- 0:09Then the rod goes light, you reel up fast, and what comes over the gunwale is a head.
- 0:15Just a head.
- 0:16Clean bite behind the gills.
- 0:19Sometimes not even that, sometimes just the bare hook and a story n- that
- 0:23nobody at the dock is going to believe.
- 0:26If you fish the Atlantic Coast, you will already know this feeling.
- 0:29And if you love the ocean, you need to understand what it means, because the fish
- 0:33that never made it to the boat is quietly turning some of the ocean's biggest fans
- 0:38against one of the most important animals.
- 0:41Today, we are talking about shark depredation and a brand-new study
- 0:44that looked back at a hundred years to figure out why this is happening now.
- 0:50If you don't know what shark depredation is, essentially
- 0:52it's sharks eating the fish.
- 0:54So it's like sharks competing with anglers and fishing.
- 0:57So it's quite an interesting way of looking at things, and we're
- 1:00gonna talk more about it today.
- 1:01But this is the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, and I'm Andrew Lewin.
- 1:04Every weekday, I take one ocean story and hand you one thing
- 1:07you can actually do about it.
- 1:09No doom for the sake of doom, just what is happening, why it
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- 1:20It's the easiest way to help this show grow.
- 1:22Now, here's the question I want to sit with today.
- 1:25What if the thing that is frustrating anglers all along the coast is actually
- 1:28a sign that we did something right?
- 1:30Because that is the strange knot at the center of the story.
- 1:34Shark depredation is going up.
- 1:36Anglers are angry, and a lot of them are pointing at shark conservation
- 1:40as the villain, believe it or not.
- 1:42A new scientific study published in June in the ICES Journal of Marine
- 1:45Science, decided to test the idea by doing something nobody had done before.
- 1:49They tracked one hundred years of shark depredation across the entire
- 1:52Atlantic Coast from Maine all the way down to Texas and the US Caribbean.
- 1:57What they found is going to reframe how you think of every one of those bite offs.
- 2:01So let's get into it.
- 2:03Now, here's part one of the main story.
- 2:04What is actually happening on the water?
- 2:08First, the word depredation.
- 2:09It sounds technical, but it's simple.
- 2:11Depredation is when a shark bites or steals a fish you've already hooked
- 2:15before you can get it into the boat.
- 2:17You did the work.
- 2:18You found the fish.
- 2:19You set the hook.
- 2:20You started the fight, and a shark collects the paycheck.
- 2:23This has happened to me once before in the Gulf of Mexico.
- 2:26It's quite frustrating.
- 2:27This is not new.
- 2:28Fishermen have dealt with it for generations.
- 2:30Ernest Hemingway built an entire novel around it back in 1952.
- 2:34But the anger around it now is real, and it is growing.
- 2:37And that is what sent this team of scientists digging.
- 2:40The study was led by Dr.
- 2:41Marcus Drymon at Mississippi State University, working with NOAA
- 2:45Fisheries and a group of regional experts and graduate students.
- 2:48And here's why it matters.
- 2:50This is the first time all these regional specialties pooled their
- 2:53knowledge into one coast-wide picture.
- 2:55Before this, everyone had their own local piece of the puzzle.
- 2:59Nobody had the whole board.
- 3:01So what does the whole board look like?
- 3:02It is bigger and messier than anyone ever expected.
- 3:06The team documented at least fifty-one different fish stocks that anglers
- 3:08target getting hit by depredation.
- 3:11And on the other side of that equation, twenty-two different species
- 3:14of shark doing the depredation.
- 3:16That's a lot of species.
- 3:17Fifty-one target fish, twenty-two target species.
- 3:21That is not a single problem.
- 3:22That's dozens of problems wearing the same coat.
- 3:25And the two sharks showing up most often, bull sharks and sandbar sharks.
- 3:29Hold on to those two names because they are going to matter in just a minute.
- 3:33One of them you're allowed to keep, one of them you're not, and that difference
- 3:37is a big part of this whole tangled mess.
- 3:39Dr. Drymon put it plainly.
- 3:41He said, "At its core, this is about overlap, overlap between people
- 3:45and wildlife, both reaching for the same fish at the same time."
- 3:48And if you want to understand why the overlap is growing, you have to look at
- 3:51what has been happening to the sharks.
- 3:54Part two, why now?
- 3:56The recovery nobody talks about.
- 3:58Here's the part that most people miss.
- 4:01Let's go back to the 1980s and early 1990s.
- 4:03Atlantic shark populations were getting hammered.
- 4:06Overfishing, finning, almost no rules.
- 4:09Some coastal species were pushing way, way down.
- 4:12Sandbar sharks, the exact species now showing up in these bite-offs,
- 4:15were among the hardest hit.
- 4:17So in 1993, the United States put its first real shark
- 4:21management plan into place.
- 4:22Quotas, limits, protections.
- 4:24Over the following years, it got stronger.
- 4:26Finning bans, species put completely off limits.
- 4:30And then something remarkable happened.
- 4:31It actually worked.
- 4:32Imagine, you put policies together and it actually worked.
- 4:35A 2023 study in the Journal of PNAS looked at coastal shark populations
- 4:40before and after that 1993 plan.
- 4:42It found nine wide-ranging coastal shark species recovering
- 4:45after decades of decline.
- 4:47The researchers were direct about the cause.
- 4:49Well-enforced management and science-based limits prevented population
- 4:53collapses that were otherwise coming.
- 4:55NOAA's own surveys tell the same story.
- 4:58Dusky sharks, sandbar sharks, even white sharks are turning
- 5:00up more often than they used to.
- 5:02And the sandbar sharks specifically, the directed fishery
- 5:05for them was shut down in 2008.
- 5:07Anglers cannot keep one today.
- 5:10They're still officially rebuilding on a plan that stretches all the way to
- 5:13the year 2070, but the trend is up.
- 5:16Now, put those two facts side by side.
- 5:18More sharks in the water, and more anglers on the water than ever, reeling in fish.
- 5:23More sharks plus more lines equals more overlap.
- 5:26More overlap equals more stolen fish.
- 5:28The depredation is not proof that conservation failed.
- 5:32In a lot of cases, it is the shadow cast by conservation working.
- 5:35And the numbers around it is eye-opening.
- 5:37One major review of global research found depredation rates ranging
- 5:41anywhere from about 1% of the catch on the low end to more than a quarter
- 5:44of your catch on the high end, depending on where and how you fish.
- 5:49A national angler survey out of 2022 found that more than
- 5:53three-quarters of anglers said that they had experienced depredation,
- 5:55with Florida as a major hotspot.
- 5:58But here's a detail that really stopped me.
- 6:00That same research estimated that nearly 80% of the depredation happens unseen.
- 6:05You never watch the shark do it.
- 6:07You just feel the line go slack and reel up the evidence, which means
- 6:11that most of the time, the angler is left to guess who the culprit was,
- 6:15and guesses, especially angry ones, are not always fair to the animal.
- 6:19Part three: The problem hiding underneath.
- 6:22So far, this might sound like a frustrating story.
- 6:24Annoying, sure, but is it really an ocean problem?
- 6:27Yes, and this is the part I most want you to hear.
- 6:30When a shark eats your hooked fish, that fish is still dead.
- 6:33It still came out of the population, but it never gets counted.
- 6:36In fishery science, that is what they call dead discard, a fish that died
- 6:41but never showed up on the logbook.
- 6:43The NOAA study flagged this directly.
- 6:46Depredated fish are effectively dead discards that are not well documented.
- 6:50And in some cases, that unaccounted mortality could throw off the
- 6:53stock assessments we use to manage those fish in the first place.
- 6:57Read that again.
- 6:58The bite-offs are not just costing anglers a fish and a bad afternoon.
- 7:01They are creating a blind spot in the data we use to keep
- 7:04those fish populations healthy.
- 7:06That is an ocean problem.
- 7:07That is a management problem.
- 7:09That is everybody's problem.
- 7:11And here's the hard truth the researchers landed on.
- 7:14There is no simple fix.
- 7:15Fifty-one targeted species, twenty-two shark species, every one of them
- 7:19managed by different rules in different states and federal waters.
- 7:23Bull sharks can be harvested.
- 7:25Sandbar sharks cannot.
- 7:27There is no one solution that works across all of it.
- 7:30What the scientists recommend instead is a combination.
- 7:33Keep testing shark deterrent devices.
- 7:35Keep the sustainable shark fisheries we do have running smartly.
- 7:39And above all, keep scientists, fishermen, and managers talking to
- 7:43each other instead of past each other.
- 7:45Because the alternative, the bumper sticker solution of just killing more
- 7:48sharks, would quietly unravel one of the few big marine conservation
- 7:51wins this country already has.
- 7:54Quick pause.
- 7:54If this episode is connecting the dots for you, do me one favor.
- 7:58Share it with the person who fishes.
- 7:59Just one.
- 8:00This is the exact kind of story that gets flattened into
- 8:03sharks bad at the boat ramp.
- 8:05And you passing it along is how the fuller picture actually travels.
- 8:08Okay, let's talk about what you can do now.
- 8:11Here's the takeaway I want you to carry off the water.
- 8:13Shark depredation is real.
- 8:14The frustration is legitimate.
- 8:17Nobody is asking anglers to smile while sharks eat their dinner.
- 8:20But the story underneath it is a conservation success story
- 8:22wearing an inconvenient disguise.
- 8:24Sharks are bad, and the goal now is not to reverse that, is to
- 8:28learn how to share the water.
- 8:29So here's where you come in.
- 8:31Same day, real and honest about what you can do and cannot do.
- 8:35If you are an angler, scientist points to a handful of small moves that add up.
- 8:39Move spots more often instead of grinding one honey hole where
- 8:42the sharks have learned to wait.
- 8:44Get your fish up faster when you can, so there's little
- 8:46time for the shark to close in.
- 8:47Try lures or jigs instead of soaking bait, since less scent in the
- 8:51water means less of an invitation.
- 8:53And stop dumping fish waste right where you're fishing.
- 8:55None of this is a magic switch, of course, but researchers who study
- 8:59this are clear that stacked together they can add up to a drop in bite offs.
- 9:02You can also test a deterrent with clear eyes.
- 9:05Some electrical and magnetic devices have shown real promise in field trials,
- 9:09buying you extra seconds to land a fish.
- 9:12Others on the market have almost no independent evidence behind them.
- 9:15So treat the flaky marketing claims with a healthy dose of skepticism, and look
- 9:19for actual testing before you spend.
- 9:22And whether or not you fish, the biggest thing that you can do
- 9:25is protect the story yourself.
- 9:26The next time you hear someone at the dock or someone in the comment section
- 9:30say the answer is just to cull the sharks, you now know enough to gently push back.
- 9:34You can say that, "The sharks coming back is a win. The bite-offs are a management
- 9:37puzzle, not a reason to undo decades of recovery." And one more, if you
- 9:41fish and you get depredated, report it.
- 9:44NOAA and its partners are actively building better ways to
- 9:47log these events, because right now, most of them vanish unseen.
- 9:50Your report helps turn the 80% of the invisible bite-offs into real data,
- 9:54and better data is what keeps both the fish and the sharks managed honestly.
- 9:58And that is the whole idea.
- 9:59You do not have to choose between healthy fisheries and healthy shark populations.
- 10:03The science says you can have both, but only if we stay at the table together.
- 10:08That's the episode.
- 10:09If you got something out of it, follow the show wherever you're listening, and
- 10:12share it with one of your angler friends.
- 10:14I read the messages, so if you've felt depredation firsthand, tell me your story.
- 10:17Hit me up on the social media links in the show notes, and I
- 10:20might read on a future episode.
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- 10:52Thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the How
- 10:54to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 10:56I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 10:57Have a great day.
- 10:57We'll talk to you next time, and happy conservation.