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Darby Kern: Jake Muller Adventures For Young Christian Families · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  But I want to spare you the rest of that right now, very interesting program today we
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  have for you.
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  For those of you especially with creative talents that you've always wanted to use for
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  the Lord, maybe you always wanted to do something for a living, but didn't think you could
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  do it and glorify God.
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  But I think you're going to be encouraged today.
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  We've got Darby Kern with us.
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  He's in studio.
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  He says he was an underachiever in high school and he's got a degree, but he says he's
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  done nothing with it.
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  But his life got better when he married his wife, Bobby Joe, they have two very intelligent
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  his words, daughters in college.
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  And since 1999, he's been a professional writer, mostly in Christian audio drama, and
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  I want to give you the website.
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  The main website is jakemulleradventures.com, jakemulleradventures.com will tell you who
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  Jake is and Darby Kern also has a website that's Darby, KERN-com or dot com.
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  Yes, there we go.
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  There he is.
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  Hey brother, welcome.
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  Good to have you in the studio.
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  Good to be here.
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  Yeah.
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  So you're in green Bay, right?
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  Yep.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, so good to have you here.
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  So basically, I'm just going to walk through your background a little bit before we get
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  to these.
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  You're going, what are those?
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  Well, he produces audio dramas, and I'm going to tell you how he got to this point.
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  Well, I'm going to let him tell the story.
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  First of all, you were working in some other field and you were trying to do maybe your dream
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  or your what you were talented in on the side, tell us about how your progression came
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  to be.
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  Yeah.
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  I have always been a fan of old time radio, audio drama, whatever you want to call it, grew
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  up listening to, you know, in Milwaukee, I think his WISN used to play the shadow and
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  the loan ranger and stuff.
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  But the moody network has all their stuff that we listened to.
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  The stories are great Christians, Ranger Bill, the story books, the, wow, now I'm on
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  a spot and I can't remember stuff.
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  Well, it was years ago.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I've listened to recently too, like Sugar Creek Gang, all those, and I just grew up listening
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  to an audio drama, loved it, loved the medium, and graduated high school, fortunately,
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  and spent 25 years working in my dad's restaurant.
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  Wow.
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  And while I was doing that, I just got a taste, I wanted to be doing some writing.
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  And what actually happened was we went to the Christian bookstore and found out there
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  was an audio drama of the left behind books, being produced in Wheaton, Illinois, by
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  Gap Digital, and just on a goof, I emailed Gap Digital, a gentleman named Todd Busteed
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  is the guy behind it all.
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  And just said, hey, you're doing exactly what I'd love to be doing.
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  And, you know, if you ever need a writer or anything, you know, I mean, it's kind of
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  a thing that doesn't work anymore, but it did work out that way.
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  And I got an email from Todd, which the first thing I noticed about it was he sent it at
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  three o'clock in the morning, and I thought, okay, this is probably not the kind of schedule
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  I want to be working on.
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  Creative people.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  And he said, if you're seriously interested in this, I'm going to give you an audition.
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  So he told me to go find a book, and a particular book, he says, write me an episode.
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  So I, you know, I read that at seven o'clock in the morning by ten o'clock I had to book
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  in my hands, and just wrote a sample episode form, and he liked it, and he just kept my
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  name in a file.
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  Okay.
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  Years later, they were launching left behind the kids, audio drama, and he invited me to
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  participate, and the rest is.
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  That's awesome.
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  So you got, you kind of got started on the left behind audio dramas, and the kids.
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  And then you said you were also a writer on, let's see, the rising.
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  Yeah, the rising was the, it's the first prequel book that Jerry Jenkins wrote after the
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  main series was done.
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  And that's actually still some of my favorite writing that I've done.
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  My personal favorite, most successful, I think.
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  Why is that?
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  It just seemed to hit exactly the way I wanted it to.
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  And at that point, Todd trusted me enough that I could really do some writing in a way
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  that was different from all the other audio drama that you heard.
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  Which at the time, and still, for that matter, you know, folks on the family doing adventures
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  in Odyssey, that was a high watermark.
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  And you know, we were doing stuff that really just because of the nature of the audience
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  and the series of books and the material that they would never try on Odyssey.
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  And that's okay.
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  Okay.
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  They have their niche in there.
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  They're doing it well.
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  So you've got a lot of projects, Jeff, I think you can pull up a Derby's website.
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  You've got all kinds of projects on there.
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  I go to DerbyKern.com and just scroll down a little bit.
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  You can see some of the projects.
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  There it is.
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  Yeah.
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  You've worked on and let's see what else the extraordinary adventures of GA Henty talks
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  about that.
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  Yeah.
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  That was produced by heirloom audio.
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  It's my friend Bill Hyde.
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  He lives in Northeastern Illinois, kind of on the river.
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  But you could stay here in Green Bay and work from home.
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  Which is amazing.
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  Yeah.
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  I didn't even have to put pants on most days to go to work.
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  It was nice.
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  Hopefully I'd sweat or something.
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  Yeah.
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  That house is always a little cool.
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  Yeah.
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  Bill had been doing the adventures of GA Henty, extraordinary adventures of GA Henty for
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  a couple of years.
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  And I knew plenty of the people who were involved and at one point I think they just needed
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  a writer.
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  They needed a script pretty quick and by that point I sort of got the reputation of working
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  pretty fast.
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  And doing a decent job.
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  I home.
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  And so they got in touch with me and I wrote the one that's on there Wolf the Saxon,
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  which is really about the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
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  But Henty always created a character who was sort of a cipher who had moved through these
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  historical events.
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  Okay.
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  And the books are a lot of fun.
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  They're over 100 years old now.
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  And not as historically accurate as we would have hoped, but they were good.
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  And these were sent, you know, mostly the subscription was for homeschool families.
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  Okay.
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  They love that.
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  Christian themes.
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  Absolutely.
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  You say that they are stories of honor, heroism, selflessness, qualities that aren't encouraged
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  the way that they should be today, right?
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  So these are good things for young families to have.
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  And then tell us about Unshackled.
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  Unshackled?
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  Well, it's the longest running audio drama in history right now.
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  The show was started in 1950.
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  Wow.
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  I've been involved for, I think, three or four years.
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  It's produced by the Pacific Art Mission in Chicago, great, great group of people.
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  They love the Lord and they are just committed to honoring him.
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  Unshackled are true stories of people whose lives were just a hot mess, we would say
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  now.
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  Just really in a bad place.
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  And they came to Lord and every story is different.
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  And you know, everyone has, I mean, we all have our own stories.
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  But, you know, mine doesn't involve, you know, laying in an alley with a needle stuck in
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  my arm or something like that and some of these people have that and it's, it's just
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  powerful.
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  It's a, God has really used that, that show to draw people to him and the mission is amazing
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  too.
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  So I have another one January 3rd going down now.
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  Really awesome.
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  They do live recording.
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  They do live recording.
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  People get ahold of that.
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  They have an app that, and that's how I listen to everything on it, but it also plays
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  on a lot of radio stations around the country.
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  I know in Green Bay, WRVM has been playing it for 40 years, maybe.
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  Is that on Saturday or Sunday morning?
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  I think it runs every night.
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  Okay.
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  Night time.
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  Okay.
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  They run some reruns and then there's a new one.
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  Unshackled.
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  I've actually heard of them.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And the voice of the master.
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  That's right.
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  All right.
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  So, well, this brings us to the Jake Muller adventures.
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  I met you.
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  I met you years ago.
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  Yeah.
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  But most recently, I was preaching, filling in for my pastor one way Christian Church
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  on Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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  You happen to come on a day when I was sharing a message on spiritual warfare and colliding
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  worldviews and demonic agendas.
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  And you say that the Jake Muller adventures is largely about spiritual warfare.
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  I'm going to give the website again.
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  It's Jake Muller Adventures.com.
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  So tell us how you started this, the idea, the development, and a more about Jake Muller.
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  Yeah.
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  There was a period of time when I was not writing much.
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  There were a few jobs.
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  I was actually pre-COVID.
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  So I gave him a swimming before COVID.
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  Yeah.
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  BC.
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  Exactly.
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  Boy, the world has changed.
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  Yes, it has.
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  But I was, I was working.
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  I had an idea for a story and I just thought, okay.
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  You know, if I don't get this story out of my system, it's just going to become toxic.
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  And that's one of the, one of the hard parts of being a writer.
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  If you don't have an outlet for some of this stuff, some of your ideas, it can become
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  a bad scene.
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  So I went ahead and I wrote the script and did a little research on it, wrote the script.
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  It's the first one called unidentified.
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  And all the stories, all the Jake Muller adventures start with a question.
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  What should a Christian have to do with blank?
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  And for that one, it was aliens, UFOs, extraterrestrials, UAPs, whatever you want to call them.
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  And you know, there's 150 sightings of something every day.
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  So what are they?
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  I mean, obviously, there's something out there.
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  Are they demonic spirits, do you think?
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  Well, not to spoil the show.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, that is my idea.
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  That is what I believe.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I think I don't really, I know there's a lot of people to say, absolutely aliens are
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  absolutely real, life on other planets.
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  I mean, maybe that's in God's territory.
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  Yeah.
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  But what we understand is demonic spirits, angels, principalities, if you read Ephesians
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  6 and other places in Scripture, warfare.
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  I'm even the angel that announced to Mary that she would have the Jesus, right?
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  And just some angels appear to people in Scripture.
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  And there's a very real aspect to that.
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  And then spiritual warfare comes into play.
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  Go ahead and continue, Darb.
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  Well, I wrote the show and just, you know, so I had it out of my system at that point,
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  but then I thought, no, I really like the script.
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  How am I going to get this produced?
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  So I'm part of a group of like-minded Christians who enjoy audio drama.
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  And I just put it out to one of them, hey, is anybody interested in helping me with
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  the show?
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  I don't know what I'm going to need, actors, but I'll definitely need a, you know, a sound
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  designer and an editor for it.
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  And one gentleman in a group, his name is Micah Tuchet, lives in Louisiana.
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  He stepped up and was interested.
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  And I gave him kind of a brief audition, you know, as far as being able to put just a kind
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  of trailer together for it, that we recorded with some actors.
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  And he knocked it out of the park.
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  And I'm convinced that the Lord put them on my path for some good things to happen.
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  And we've worked together on all three shows so far.
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  So you say all three, do I have all three of them here?
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  Yep.
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  I've got undead, I've got blood, and I've got unidentified.
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  So these are the three that you're talking about.
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  Yeah.
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  Friends, you can get these.
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  Primarily, these are geared toward young Christian families.
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  Well, we always say that we are trying to catch the kids who have been growing up listening
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  to adventures in Odyssey, and they hit a, hit an age where they think, I'm too cool
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  for that kid's stuff.
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  So we give him a story that's action and adventure, but with a Christian worldview, we,
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  we used to describe it as the adventures of Indiana Jones meets the intrigue of the exfiles
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  but from a Christian worldview.
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  But if you think about it, both Indiana Jones and the exfiles are kind of outdated now.
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  So I've come up with a new one, if anybody has any ideas, let me know.
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  Back to Darby Kern, I want to talk about Jake Muller's adventures and what you've mentioned
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  about the undead.
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  There's two more.
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  You said they're coming out?
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  There's two more that are going to be coming out in 2026.
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  We've already recorded the voices and begun the post-production work on them and they're
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  going to be, the next one after undead is called engineered and it's about social engineering.
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  Really great topic deals pretty strongly with a lot of the spiritual warfare issues.
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  I don't want to spoil anything for people who are going to see this and say, hey, let's
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  listen to this.
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  But there's a cabal of people who are trying to control the world.
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  And it may be more close to reality than fiction.
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  OK.
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  Well, people need to know about these things too.
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  Even young people that are growing up and they need to understand what's happening.
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  In fact, what should Christian think about these things?
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  One of the things you sent me some pre-show notes on were vampire subcultures.
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  I mean, they're in New York, Chicago, in New Orleans, other places, vampires, voodoo.
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  It's very real to these people and cults and other things.
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  It's a very real thing.
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  But so what about Christians and do you address any of these in your projects?
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  Yeah.
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  Blood is all about the vampire subculture.
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  The story takes place in Chicago and there is this subculture that exists.
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  There where you think that it's just role-playing or something like that.
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  And for some people, it might be or it might be that's how they get started.
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  But there's a real, I'm not afraid to say demonic element to some of it.
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  And some people take it well beyond role-playing and create a lifestyle around it.
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  And it's not that people go around biting necks and drinking blood or anything like that,
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  but there's an element of blood that is involved in what they're doing.
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  So I'm asking the question, what should a Christian think about this?
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  I mean, the obvious answer is this is something we should really flee from.
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  But then what does blood mean to a Christian and blood sack or fight against it?
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  They're washed by the blood of the Lamb, but the blood of Christ.
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  Which is a great sentiment, but for someone who's not a believer who doesn't understand
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  the artistic element of what you're saying, it just sounds weird.
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  And we have a lot of songs and hymns that talk about the blood, and they're great songs,
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  they're great hymns.
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  But we need to make sure that these people who don't know the Lord will understand what
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  we're talking about.
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  So you mentioned social engineering, oh my goodness.
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  You also mentioned you've got an upcoming show that deals with a new world order, working
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  about to bring about the anti-Christ.
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  I mean, we talk about that on this program.
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  Tell us about that.
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  Well, that actually, the seeds of that get started in the very first show, Undead.
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  There's a bottom on actually, the blue one.
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  Oh, like I said.
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  Oh, I'm sorry.
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  Unidentified.
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  Unidentified.
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  Hey, I'm showing the right one, unidentified.
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  I screwed up.
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  In that, you're introduced to this cabal that strangely has their offices in Strasbourg,
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  France.
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  You don't want to say too much more about that.
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  And it's just populated with the UN, or they might have something to do with that.
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  But they, I don't present them as anything but corrupt and demonic.
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  And I believe that it's, I think there are people who are controlled.
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  I think there's a lot of people in power who are not doing the Lord's work, even the opposite
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  of that.
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  So there's an ultimate group of bad guys that you learn about more.
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  But the fifth story, it's called Shroud, is kind of a combination.
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  Now I'm going to be secretive about this.
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  Okay, that's coming out next year.
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  That, yeah, that'll be towards the end of next year.
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  It's a bit of the boys from Brazil, what else would I say?
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  I take these old stories and old movies and kind of update it.
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  So there's an element of science fiction involved.
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  But there's nothing that happens that I don't think is happening in the real world.
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  So.
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  Okay, something before we run out of time, Darby, you said what you sent me, we were exchanging
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  emails before he came on the show.
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  You said biblical eschatology is a subject you've studied for about 40 years.
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  Yeah.
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  You're very into that.
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  Talk to us about your interest in that and just share your thoughts on that.
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  Yeah.
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  If you want to label me, I would be considered a pre-trib dispensationalist.
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  It's what I see in the Bible.
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  There's a lot of people who probably just turned off the podcast because they don't know
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  it.
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  No, I think most majority, we can agree to disagree on these things.
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  We do not break fellowship with believers who have different views on the rapture.
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  But I mean, the other doctrinal issues and cults and false teachings, yes.
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  But this is something most of our audience is probably aligned with.
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  Yeah.
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  And I don't think that my ideas are unorthodox or anything, but I think when I was about
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  18, I started reading more about it, listened to some conferences that were recorded and
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  just started thinking about things in a different way.
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  And what I realized and what most important to me is that clearly, clearly, scripturally,
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  got had a plan.
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  And it's a detailed plan and it's an exact plan.
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  And nothing that happens is a surprise to them.
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  So all these things go in a row and it's funny because in the mid 1980s, when I really
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  started studying this stuff, people had ideas about what was coming up and I'd read just
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  about everything.
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  And you know, someone comes up with 88 reasons why he's coming back in 88 and then 89
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  reasons, you know, all that jazz and it just really created an interest in me that I need
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  to get into the word.
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  I need to understand this stuff and gone through some periods of my life where I was less
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  interested in spiritual matters.
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  And that always ends with a question about, okay, why do I believe what I believe?
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  And one of the things, just one of the things that really draws me back every time I would
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  even think to, you know, answer, ask that question is a biblical prophecy.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  Yes, which is between a third and a quarter of the Bible.
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  And Jesus fulfilled hundreds of prophecies.
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  People don't put a lot of emphasis on that.
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  Like, I think it should be emphasized because if you can predict the outcome and successfully,
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  I mean, the Bible's got a 100% track record of being right on prophecy.
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  And more to come, by the way, and plus, the prophecy from Isaiah, what was it about 700
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  BC?
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  Yeah.
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  700 years before Jesus was born.
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  That's where we get our, the wonderful counselor, Prince of Peace, mighty God, everlasting
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  father.
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  Right.
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  That's Isaiah 9, you know, 6 and 7 there, but then we get the part where the government will
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  be on his shoulders and that hasn't happened yet, but it's going to.
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  So before we run out of time, I want you to encourage creative people that are in our
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  audience that would love to use their gifts and talents and whatever capacity for the Lord,
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  but maybe our hesitant, I know you've gone through that, maybe a lot of ups and downs.
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  Share your heart on that.
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  I just do what you're doing.
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  If you're interested in something like acting, voice acting, their place is to go where
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  you can get connected with people who are doing a lot of production or writing or writing.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  Absolutely.
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  And, you know, there's, I'm working on a course, a video course for writing, which I can't
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  even promote now because there's not enough to put together, but, you know, learn, learn
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  how to write, learn for yourself why you want to write.
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  You have a story, tell it as best you can, find a way, and if you're thinking about like
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  a movie script or an audio drama script, just imagine the best movie you can imagine,
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  beginning to end, and then go back and write it all down.
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  It's, you know, it's as simple as that, but it's as difficult as that.
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  And then you have to be disciplined and get down and just write it out in the details.
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  So you have a podcast too, right, Jake Muller, adventures.com podcast, it's been a little
• 26:20
  farlo, for a while, but we're going to be coming back real soon.
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  Okay.
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  So anything else people need to know, we've got your website, derbykern.com and Jake Muller
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  adventures.com, people can get these through the website or Amazon or what you can do
• 26:38
  both.
• 26:39
  If you go through the website, you can buy CDs or digital downloads, anything that you
• 26:44
  do through the website might be more expensive, but the money goes right into us producing
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  more.
• 26:50
  You can find it on Spotify and you can find it on audible.com as well.
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  And your sweatshirts are on there too.
• 26:57
  Yeah, they are.
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  Jake Muller sweatshirts.
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  You too could wear it.
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  Awesome.
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  Oh, and you've got a mug.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  All right.
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  Awesome.
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  Okay.
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  Well, so good to have you in Studio Brother.
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  I wish you continued success and that God would enlarge your territory and that people would
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  check these out for their kids, especially homeschool families, that as you said, once
• 27:17
  they get to adventures and Odyssey and they're not listening to that anymore, this is
• 27:21
  a great transition.
• 27:22
  So friends, I'd encourage you to check it out.
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  And I would encourage parents to listen to it first if your kids are younger, just to
• 27:28
  make sure that it's right for your kids.
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  Good call.
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  Well, you have a Merry Christmas, brother.
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  You too.
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  Thank you.
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  God bless.
• 27:36
  Good seeing you again, Dave.
• 27:37
  Yep.
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  Friends, thank you so much for all of your prayers and sharing the podcast.
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  That's how it's getting out there.
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  God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.