Latest / The Play Therapy Circle / Episode 28- What Is Child-Centred Play Therapy- And How Does It Help My Child?
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- 0:00Hi there and welcome to the Play Therapy Circle.
- 0:04Before we begin, Please note this podcast is for
- 0:07informational and educational purposes only.
- 0:10It does not provide therapeutic advice and listening does not
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- 0:33Hi and welcome to an episode of The Play Therapy Circle.
- 0:38I'm Kylie Ellison, a therapist, clinical supervisor and play
- 0:42therapy trainer and I'm so grateful you're here.
- 0:45This podcast is a space for thoughtful, soulful
- 0:49conversations about child centred therapy, play based work
- 0:53and what it means to show up with presence and compassion
- 0:57both for our clients and for ourselves.
- 1:00Whether you're a seasoned play therapist, a student just
- 1:03starting out, or someone deeply passionate about working with
- 1:07children, you belong here. Hey everyone, and welcome back
- 1:13to the Play Therapy Circle podcast.
- 1:15I'm your host, Kylie Ellison and I am so glad you are here.
- 1:21Hello everyone, happy Tuesday. For any of you who've been
- 1:25following along, you know that I am trying to commit to doing
- 1:32this earlier in the week so that I can get organised.
- 1:35So I am super grateful that I have done it this week because
- 1:41it's a new week. How are all of you doing?
- 1:43How you doing? How is your week going?
- 1:47How are you travelling in the playroom?
- 1:49I had 6 client sessions today in the playroom, so I had the
- 1:54opportunity to connect with six beautiful, incredible kids in
- 1:59the playroom. So I have had a fantastic day
- 2:02and I think it's a really good day for me to be doing a podcast
- 2:04episode when the playroom is fresh in my mind in terms of my
- 2:09appreciation and deep gratitude for what I do each and every
- 2:14day. I often say to myself, I can't
- 2:16believe this is my job, that I genuinely get to sit and connect
- 2:20and not only just sit and connect, but really be able to
- 2:24use all of my skills in CCPT. But more importantly than
- 2:27anything else, the connection and relationship that I get to
- 2:31build with each of the clients that I work with and their
- 2:33families is so special, so special.
- 2:36So I'm so grateful. Hey, as some of you may know who
- 2:40follow me along in my podcast journey so far to date, the
- 2:47episodes have been very much focused on helping support our
- 2:51play therapists and our play therapy community.
- 2:54So in light of it being January 2026, in light of it being a
- 3:00couple of weeks before all of our kids in Brisbane go back to
- 3:04school because we are approaching that returning to
- 3:08school period of the start of the year, I wanted to do a few
- 3:13episodes. So I'm going to call it a mini
- 3:15series. I really probably should have
- 3:18thought this through more. I'm really kind of talking on
- 3:20the fly here, but I have some topics that I would like to do
- 3:25that relate to helping therapists explain play therapy
- 3:29to potentially new families or current families.
- 3:32Why I'm saying that is often for many play therapists and I'm
- 3:36talking again to Brisbane. I want to clarify the context of
- 3:41the information. I'm about to provide that at the
- 3:44start of the year in January, the end of January, our kids go
- 3:49back to school. So it's often a time for private
- 3:53practise and for play therapists to either start new clients
- 3:57where you might have finished over just before Christmas and
- 4:00then had the Christmas New Year break and now you're receiving
- 4:04referrals in your practise for the start of the year.
- 4:06There will often be referrals that we will receive once kids
- 4:10start school and maybe you're having trouble or difficulties.
- 4:13So I wanted to have some topics, some episodes that would be able
- 4:19to be shared with parents or that parents would be able to
- 4:21listen along to that will just support understanding and help
- 4:29spread the word about child Centre play therapy and help
- 4:32support both our parents and our therapist.
- 4:34So if you are a parent joining the podcast and listening to
- 4:39this episode, welcome. Welcome.
- 4:42It is so lovely to have you. We are so incredibly supportive
- 4:48and inclusive in our play Therapy Circle community because
- 4:52we acknowledge that play therapy lives everywhere and that we
- 4:55have so many incredible play therapists and supporters and
- 4:59parents and families out there. So if you are joining as a
- 5:03parent, you are so so welcome here.
- 5:06I want to spend today's episode and the topic that I've decided
- 5:11on is what is child centred play therapy and how does it help my
- 5:15child? So I also want to declare being
- 5:20a play therapist and a parent myself.
- 5:23So for those of you parents joining who don't know, I have
- 5:28at the moment a 12 and a 13 year old.
- 5:30So I will often refer to being in the trenches of parenting.
- 5:35So I want to normalise challenges that happen along the
- 5:40way in parenting because we all go through it.
- 5:44I want to be as authentic and congruent as I can because that
- 5:48is our core tenants of CPT. So I'm going to be honest and
- 5:52transparent here about my own experience and the challenges
- 5:55that we as parents face as well. So hopefully this will be a
- 6:00really helpful episode that you might be able to share with
- 6:02parents as a therapist or parents can listen to as well or
- 6:06just helping therapist to have some of that language to explain
- 6:09child centre play therapy, especially if you're beginning
- 6:12in the profession. So I want to acknowledge for our
- 6:15parent listeners that you often may be feeling pretty worried or
- 6:22anxious about your child and how they're going.
- 6:25You might be carrying lots of questions or being slightly
- 6:30hesitant about starting therapy. Like I said, I myself work in
- 6:35private practise. I'm coming up to 10 years in a
- 6:38couple of weeks. Our practise is going to
- 6:42celebrate it's 10th birthday of delivering child centre play
- 6:45therapy services in the Redlands and beyond.
- 6:47So I am super excited. So I will talk about that more
- 6:50in the next episode. But getting back on topic.
- 6:54So having worked as a child centre play therapist for the
- 6:57last 10 years, working in the child protection and disability
- 6:59space for the last 20 years, I'm, I know that there can often
- 7:04be hesitation questions, wonderings around how play
- 7:08therapy works. So this episode is for you and
- 7:11certainly for those therapists also listening who want to
- 7:13explain it to parents. So what I want to talk about in
- 7:17the next couple of episodes is really wanting to do some
- 7:20episodes to help parents and caregivers who want to
- 7:24understand CCPT. So this episode and the next few
- 7:27are for you. I want to, as I said, offer
- 7:31language to therapists as well who might be struggling to
- 7:34communicate that. But I just want to clarify just
- 7:37before we get started that obviously this isn't parenting
- 7:40training. This is not a parenting manual.
- 7:42We're not going to be analysing play.
- 7:44This is purely informational. This is a space of understanding
- 7:50to share all about child centre play therapy and how it helps
- 7:53children heal through play and a place to slow down and make
- 7:57sense of how therapy and especially child centre play
- 8:00therapy works. So if you are listening and you
- 8:02don't know anything about child centre play therapy, you're
- 8:05totally fine. That's totally fine.
- 8:07Listen on your we've got you. You don't need to do anything
- 8:11differently yet. And this is just about
- 8:14understanding. It's not about fixing or
- 8:16changing. This is really about sharing as
- 8:19much information as we can about child centre play therapies.
- 8:22So welcome and let's dive in. Hey, so I want to start off and
- 8:30acknowledge along the way that I'm going to be talking to
- 8:32parents. So I will try and caveat that if
- 8:34I'm talking to different audiences in this podcast, but
- 8:38I'll also interchangeably use my own experience as both a play
- 8:41therapist and a parent. So hopefully we can all follow
- 8:45along together. But what do I want to talk about
- 8:48today? So why parents often ask, but
- 8:50what is play therapy like? What actually is it?
- 8:54So many parents imagine therapy as talking about problems.
- 9:00That isn't uncommon because often in our community,
- 9:05community expectations around therapy, what we traditionally
- 9:07know about therapy is talk based.
- 9:10So I really want to normalise that potential preconception
- 9:14that parents might have is that I'm bringing my child to therapy
- 9:18to talk to someone. That's totally fine.
- 9:21I'm going to unpack why child centre play therapy is most
- 9:25definitely a very effective, evidence based, research based
- 9:29approach to working with children, but how using play is
- 9:34often far more effective than talk based work with children.
- 9:36So we're going to get into that. Oftentimes parents expect that
- 9:40they'll children will be taught some sort of skill base, you
- 9:44know, coping skills, skills to navigate life.
- 9:47That can be part of a parent's expectation when they're
- 9:50engaging a therapist and that adults asking direct questions
- 9:54is part of the delivery of intervention as well.
- 9:57So it can be really confusing when parents are inquiring about
- 10:03child centre play therapy or play therapy in general.
- 10:05And our understanding in the beginning that it might be
- 10:11sounding like children just playing.
- 10:14That is a very, very common understanding of play therapy
- 10:18and child centre play therapy. So again, if you're a parent
- 10:20listening and when you're reading, I guess information
- 10:25about play therapy or you're listening to a play therapist
- 10:28talk about it and in the back of your mind you're kind of like,
- 10:30but that just sounds like play. That is so, so common as a
- 10:35beginning misconception of child centre play therapy.
- 10:38So I'm really keen to debunk that and help provide that
- 10:43information to better understand.
- 10:45But that is common that it just often to parents sounds like
- 10:48play so they don't talk about home or school.
- 10:53So it could be really confusing when they don't do that.
- 10:56So naming that fear of how can playing instead of talking help
- 11:02my child? And that's a very valid
- 11:04question. You are a parent, you are
- 11:06concerned about your child, you want the best for your child and
- 11:09you want the best service for your child, right?
- 11:12So you want to understand exactly how this works.
- 11:14And that's completely understandable.
- 11:16So let's talk a little bit about what child centre play therapy
- 11:19is all about. And I want to give I guess a
- 11:21little caveat here with my own professional background that one
- 11:25of the reasons why I went searching for a alternative to
- 11:29talk based therapy for kids was I was working in intervention
- 11:33mention roles both in government and non government where I was
- 11:37using directive approaches and really not getting the outcomes
- 11:40that I was seeking as a professional.
- 11:43And it was becoming frustrating. I wasn't a parent at that time,
- 11:46but I was really wanting to understand, I guess, and
- 11:50navigate better how to better reach children.
- 11:54And so I found a little bit later child centre play therapy
- 11:58and I've never looked back. And so my kids were little when
- 12:01I found child centre play therapy.
- 12:02So unfortunately my kids, because I use child centre play
- 12:07therapy in my everyday language everywhere, are also little mini
- 12:12play therapist in the making because they use my language,
- 12:16because we've been using it for so long.
- 12:18So I want to give that encouragement and support to
- 12:23parents who have little ones who are kind of thinking about child
- 12:27centre play therapy and how this might work.
- 12:29That can also be something that you learn and then that's called
- 12:33filial therapy. We won't talk about that today,
- 12:35but there is a programme where it can teach parents how to use
- 12:39therapy with their own children at home.
- 12:42So I don't want to overwhelm parents.
- 12:44So let's get back to the basics. But child centre play therapy
- 12:47really is all about a relationship based therapy.
- 12:51So one of the things that parents often say to me when
- 12:54they refer and connect with me is that their child struggled to
- 12:59build a connection with their previous therapist.
- 13:02And that's not uncommon either. And that's completely fine.
- 13:06There is situations where there's matching and
- 13:08mismatching. Those things happen in the
- 13:11therapeutic context and it is so important that parents are
- 13:15empowered to know how informed consent works and freedom of
- 13:21choice. And so finding the best and
- 13:23right fit for you and your child is absolutely essential.
- 13:28So it's very important that you feel like your child can connect
- 13:33and build a working relationship with the therapist that you
- 13:36enlist for help. So child centre play therapy is
- 13:39deeply based in taking the time investing in building a
- 13:45therapeutic alliance and relationship with the child and
- 13:48it works throughout the journey. What I want to explain to
- 13:51parents is that child centred play therapy isn't just about
- 13:53working with your child, it's about the therapist connecting
- 13:56and working with you too. A good child centre play
- 13:59therapist will work holistically with the system, so they will
- 14:03work with the parents, work with stakeholders, so schools, allied
- 14:08health doctors, whoever is involved and you give permission
- 14:13as a parent to do so, there is that opportunity for your play
- 14:17therapist to work holistically. So it's very important that your
- 14:21play therapist in that initial consultation explains how they
- 14:24work and that you will be kept updated and involved with
- 14:28regular ongoing parent consultations so you can provide
- 14:32feedback, ask questions, review goals.
- 14:35There is so much about the parent being involved in the
- 14:38process as well. So if you've had an experience
- 14:40prior with a therapist that hasn't necessarily involved and
- 14:47supported you along the way alongside the work that they've
- 14:50been doing with the child, with your child, it's really
- 14:54important to make sure that you feel that inclusion in that
- 14:58delivery of services. So it's very much CCPT is
- 15:03developmentally appropriate. It's designed specifically and
- 15:06developmentally for children. So it is a mode of delivery of
- 15:12intervention that honours the different developmental stages
- 15:15of children and that specifically children
- 15:20communicate through play the way adults communicate with words.
- 15:25Let me say that again for you. So children communicate through
- 15:28play the way adults communicate through words.
- 15:32So sometimes when we explain that to parents, it does give a
- 15:37little bit of an aha moment because oftentimes either
- 15:41they've tried or other therapists have tried to use
- 15:44talk based work in engaging with their child and haven't really
- 15:47gotten very far. And the reason for that is often
- 15:50kids struggle to put words to their feelings.
- 15:53They struggle to put words to their experiences or to be able
- 15:57to recall it or be able to detail it, but they absolutely
- 16:01can do it fantastically through play.
- 16:05They can do it to the tee of, of everything that happened to
- 16:09them, the the emotions that they felt, how it went for them in
- 16:14terms of their family situation or dynamics, absolutely to to
- 16:19the core. They can talk through in, in
- 16:22play. So as a play therapist, I'm
- 16:24trained to understand that play, to be able to interpret it and
- 16:28to be able to communicate updates to you.
- 16:31So that's my job as a play therapist to be, I guess kind of
- 16:34that conduit between the child and the parent.
- 16:36So we recognise that children will use play to process their
- 16:42feelings, process their experiences and they are always
- 16:45trying to work towards a resolution because in our
- 16:49approach to child centre play therapy, we believe in the
- 16:52potential of every child and family that we connect with if
- 16:56given a supportive space to do so.
- 16:58So we acknowledge, and there's a term for this, so I don't want
- 17:03to lose any parents, but if you've ever heard of the self
- 17:05actualization principle, it's this idea of in our philosophy
- 17:11of practise that clients are always trying to work towards a
- 17:15better version of themselves. They actually don't don't want
- 17:18to feel frustrated, they don't want to feel depressed, they
- 17:20don't want to feel angry. They actually want to feel
- 17:23better. And so we want to provide that
- 17:26supportive space to help them do that.
- 17:28So we acknowledge that children can't use words to do that, but
- 17:31they can do it through play. So here comes my therapy and why
- 17:34it's so important. So our role as the therapist is
- 17:37to provide a safe, consistent space.
- 17:41We know if we don't provide that space to support kids, they
- 17:46won't feel that sense of trust to be vulnerable and open up
- 17:49about the big tough stuff. So that investment in
- 17:52establishing that relation first, relationship first, is
- 17:54key. So you might hear your play
- 17:56therapist in your first catch up with them after you've had a few
- 17:59sessions, say, I've spent time building a relationship with
- 18:03your child and we've established that or we're still working
- 18:06towards that. That's really important that you
- 18:09understand what that means as a parent.
- 18:12So I'm going to do a separate episode on stages in play
- 18:15therapy to explain to parents. But just to give you that
- 18:18reassurance, the beginning work that play therapists do with
- 18:22children is really establishing that consistency and safe and
- 18:25trusting space. It's very important that we're
- 18:28following the child's lead. The child innately knows what
- 18:32they need to talk about and where they need to go.
- 18:35I wholeheartedly can say that anecdotally as a play therapist
- 18:40of practise over the last 10 years, the amount of kids where
- 18:44we have as a collective between the therapist and the parent
- 18:49established those goals of therapy at the beginning of our
- 18:52work. And then I've started working
- 18:53with the child and that agenda has shifted significantly and
- 18:58I've been able to go back to the parent to explain what might be
- 19:01some of the other elements that the child is struggling with and
- 19:04give more context. It's incredible how children
- 19:07will tell us what they need to tell us about their problem or
- 19:10their issue. So letting them take the lead is
- 19:13absolutely critical. If I went in with my agenda of
- 19:16what I thought they needed to be taught or what they needed to
- 19:20discuss, I miss the child. So if I bring in the agenda, I
- 19:26miss connecting with and understanding at a core level
- 19:30what's happening for the child. Because it's my agenda, it's not
- 19:32the child's. So we respond with warmth,
- 19:35acceptance and emotional understanding.
- 19:38So we can be that independent person from your family, from
- 19:42the stakeholder group that can offer a safe space for kids to
- 19:45talk through, through play, what's going on for them.
- 19:49So what is CCPT not? So it's not behaviour
- 19:53management. I need to kind of clarify that.
- 19:55It's especially for some of us working in Australia in say the
- 20:00NDIS space, it's really important to acknowledge child
- 20:03centre play therapy is not positive behaviour support.
- 20:06It's not behaviour management, it's not teaching lessons.
- 20:09And it's not direct problem solving, it's very much about
- 20:14emotional expression, meaning making healing through the
- 20:19relationship and healing through play.
- 20:21That's what it is. So how does child centre play
- 20:24therapy help children to heal and grow?
- 20:27If that's what it is, how does it work?
- 20:29So how does it go into real time?
- 20:33I guess goals, outcomes, tangible, measurable intentions.
- 20:40I guess when we are connecting with a therapist and asking them
- 20:43to work with our child. So what can we do and what can
- 20:46we help in child centre play therapy to support the child?
- 20:49We help to develop emotional regulation skills.
- 20:52So to break that down a little bit more, what a play therapist
- 20:55often does is uses a skill called reflecting feelings.
- 21:00So when play therapist use reflecting feelings, it provides
- 21:04an opportunity for children to understand both unconsciously
- 21:09and consciously what a particular emotion is.
- 21:12So in effect, we're helping children to be able to build
- 21:15their emotional literacy, but we're also able to support
- 21:19emotional regulation through Co regulation, through us
- 21:23regulating ourselves and helping to support regulate the child.
- 21:26So what happens is when we're able to do that and we're able
- 21:30to help support regulate a child in the playroom to help them in
- 21:35simple terms, to remain calm in the playroom.
- 21:38So if your child is struggling with big emotions, big feelings,
- 21:42one of the ways we can help do that is communicating that
- 21:45acceptance, that understanding and reflecting feelings to
- 21:49validate how they're feeling and to help de escalate them.
- 21:53So when we can do that through that action orientated
- 21:58experience, because we know kids developmentally need to move.
- 22:02They can't sit still and just talk to someone.
- 22:04They are on the go, they need to move.
- 22:07I just did 6 sessions today. Like I know I really have moved
- 22:11today. Like I have made my steps today
- 22:13as a play therapist because I was running in that playroom.
- 22:17So kids need to move to learn they can't sit still.
- 22:21So if they have this opportunity to play it out through an action
- 22:25orientated and experiential experience, they can establish a
- 22:29new way of being able to connect with others outside.
- 22:33So what we find and what's incredible about this work is
- 22:37kids will workshop ideas, they'll play out ideas, they'll
- 22:40trial different ways of doing things.
- 22:42And once they've established that, they start using those
- 22:45skills outside of play therapy because why?
- 22:49Child centre Play therapy is a relationship based therapy.
- 22:53So what happens is they learn in that relationship between myself
- 22:57as the therapist and the child and they generalise it to the
- 23:01outside world because eventually it's not just about myself and
- 23:05the client. They take those skills to all of
- 23:07their relationships. So they learn through that one
- 23:11relationship with me and they take it outside and use it with
- 23:14everyone else. It's incredible, it's amazing.
- 23:16And kids don't intentionally do this either.
- 23:18I want to preface to parents, it's not.
- 23:21There is no thought process where kids go, OK, well I've
- 23:25learnt how to manage my big feelings with Kylie, so now I'm
- 23:28going to try and manage my big feelings with my teacher in the
- 23:30classroom. None of that happens in their
- 23:32brain. They just don't have that
- 23:34capacity yet to do that. But they have that experience,
- 23:38that relationship with me where they're able to build those
- 23:41skills so that they can gently and effectively take them
- 23:44outside of the play therapy space and use them in other
- 23:47contexts. So we help them to build
- 23:49confidence and self trust. In play therapy, there is a term
- 23:54called returning responsibility. It's a big one.
- 23:59So I, I want to connect with parents who are listening right
- 24:02now who may have a child who can't do things for themselves.
- 24:08So if you are struggling with your child who becomes upset,
- 24:15becomes frustrated, angry, defers to you or to another
- 24:21family member to do things for them, can't do things for
- 24:24themselves, there is a term in child centre play therapy.
- 24:28I don't want to lose anyone, but there is a term called learned
- 24:32helplessness. So we use that in our therapy
- 24:35work to talk about a child who through repeated experiences,
- 24:40the same way that they have repeated experiences in the
- 24:43playroom and they learn those new skills with us.
- 24:47They can in other settings also have these repeated experiences
- 24:50where they learn how the world works.
- 24:53And one of those things could be that if over repetition, they've
- 24:57learnt that if they dig their heels in and they refuse to do
- 25:02something and they become say upset or Yep, cry or become
- 25:08angry that others will do it for them and so they stop doing
- 25:14things for themselves. So what I want to say in this
- 25:18space when I'm talking about some of the benefits of CCPT is
- 25:21one of the ways that we build confidence in kids is returning
- 25:24responsibility. So in the playroom, my job is
- 25:28not to do anything for the child unless it's outside of their
- 25:31developmental stage, which is a whole other conversation.
- 25:35But generally speaking, if it's something that is within the
- 25:40developmental expectations of a child to do so, if I have a 10
- 25:44year old who can't pick colours to draw a picture, I'm not going
- 25:50to pick that colour for them. What we're going to do is return
- 25:54responsibility to build their confidence, their capacity,
- 25:59their self direction, their self responsibility.
- 26:02Because in play therapy, we believe that those skills can't
- 26:06be taught. It needs to be learned through
- 26:08experience. So I'm trained to sit in the
- 26:12uncomfortable with kids until they're able to do it.
- 26:17So if they become upset and frustrated, I'm going to use my
- 26:20reflecting feeling skills to help validate their feelings,
- 26:24but also hold those boundaries. So this is where I'm going to
- 26:28put my my parent hat on now because I want to talk to
- 26:31parents who maybe have a family context where both parents work.
- 26:40Maybe you guys both work full time and your time pressured.
- 26:46You have maybe a couple of kids, two or three kids, and they're
- 26:51school aged or their daycare school aged, and you need to get
- 26:53them to school and to daycare and you need to get to work.
- 26:57And so when we have one of our kids who is refusing to put
- 27:00their school shoes on and you need to be in the car because
- 27:04you need to be at work in the next half an hour and you need
- 27:07to get everyone going. Like we've had, you know,
- 27:10breakfast, We've gotten dressed, we've packed our school lunches,
- 27:13we've packed our bags, we brush our hair, we've cleaned our
- 27:16teeth, and we are literally trying to get into the car.
- 27:18And you have one of your kiddos who is refusing to put their
- 27:22shoe on. I just want to validate and
- 27:24normalise that you may not have the time to be able to sit there
- 27:29for 45 minutes while you are trying to get your child in the
- 27:33car. So if you are struggling with
- 27:35this, that is part of why you would engage a child centre play
- 27:40therapist to help support you through that.
- 27:42Because parents now more than ever are flat out over schedule,
- 27:49eyes struggling, time poor. All of those things are so
- 27:54relevant to parents right now. And so I want to remove any of
- 27:59that guilt or shame that any parents might feel around not
- 28:03being able to give as much time as you would like to help
- 28:07support build those skills for your your child.
- 28:09This is the reality of working and needing to run a household,
- 28:16I believe, as far as I'm aware. What I have read is that we are
- 28:22one of the first generations out, and I'm gonna say it to all
- 28:25my parents listening geriatric millennial parents.
- 28:29If you're out there, if you're a millennial parent, I see you.
- 28:32I totally see you. We are one of the first
- 28:35generations that is trying to run a household and hold down a
- 28:39job. We are also part of a parent
- 28:43cohort where we are trying to work through our own experiences
- 28:47growing up and parent in a different way our own kids.
- 28:52So there is so many pressures, so many challenges with
- 28:56parenting in modern day. So I just want to really
- 29:00normalise that and help support you in looking for a way of
- 29:06being able to support kids that and your child in particular
- 29:11that will address some of those challenges that you're
- 29:13experiencing. So if that is you, if you
- 29:16identify with that concept of learned helplessness, you are
- 29:20not alone, definitely not. So what else can we help in
- 29:25child centre play therapy with expression of big or confusing
- 29:30or intense feelings? So what we do in child centre
- 29:33play therapy is we have another term called limit setting.
- 29:37So that's really important because we are very conscious in
- 29:42child centre play therapy of role modelling, A socially
- 29:46acceptable relationship as one of The Pioneers in child centre
- 29:50play therapy, Garrett Landreth would say.
- 29:51So it's very important that we are upholding our professional
- 29:56ethics, our code of conduct, our ethical guidelines as well as
- 30:01our professional practise. So it's important that kids have
- 30:05an opportunity to be able to express feelings that they have
- 30:09inside them that they need to release.
- 30:11So we often talk about child centre play therapy because it's
- 30:14play based, providing an opportunity for kids to process
- 30:18cathartically big feelings, which is great.
- 30:21That's what helps children. So we want to provide that
- 30:24opportunity, but we will also put limits in to make sure that
- 30:27they're safe. So we have a basic rule of thumb
- 30:31because obviously goes into a lot more detail, but I want to
- 30:34just share the basics with parents that it's all about
- 30:38making sure that I'm safe, that the child is safe and the room
- 30:42and the toys are safe. So as long as that's the case
- 30:45and it's within that socially acceptable relationship, they
- 30:49are feelings that we will allow the child to express in process.
- 30:53So we have resources in the room to do that.
- 30:55So we have punching bags. We have a giant teddy I've
- 31:00actually got with my punching bag.
- 31:01I got it from Kmart, so it's fantastic.
- 31:04I have never, I have looked so many times for different
- 31:08resources and the one from came out is amazing, but it has
- 31:10targets on it and like an inflatable glove so kids can
- 31:15punch it and they can let out those feelings in a safe and
- 31:20supported and therapeutic way. So we would never let them do
- 31:23anything that's not acceptable outside of play therapy, but we
- 31:26also wouldn't let them do anything that would not be OK in
- 31:30terms of safety. So we're always making sure that
- 31:33they are safe in the playroom. So we also help them to process
- 31:37and talk through without having to use any words, experiences
- 31:41that are really tough for them. So in play therapy, they don't
- 31:45even need to use any words to talk about some of those
- 31:48traumatic experiences that maybe they have been through.
- 31:51So we help them do that with the resources we have in the room.
- 31:54We really want to promote with kids a sense of being understood
- 31:58and accepted. So when we are connecting and
- 32:01building that relationship, it is an ongoing process of that
- 32:05safety trust and we have key tenants.
- 32:09So these are our key principles or our core beliefs in child
- 32:12centre play therapy that we provide congruence.
- 32:16So we are authentic, we are who we are, We are transparent to
- 32:22kids and truly kids and parents value that.
- 32:25When we're authentic, we're congruent, we have deep empathy,
- 32:30deep empathy for everyone involved, including parents and
- 32:33children, and unconditional positive regard.
- 32:37They're the three kind of key core beliefs of child centre
- 32:40play therapists. So when we do that, we're able
- 32:43to help children to feel that sense of being understood and
- 32:46accepted. So change happens from the
- 32:48inside out. It's not kind of the other way,
- 32:52way around where we're trying to teach them things.
- 32:55We want them to be able to have that self insight, to be able to
- 33:01develop strategies and skills that resonate for them as
- 33:05opposed to things that I'm I'm teaching them.
- 33:08And we believe that when children feel safe, growth
- 33:12follows naturally. It's not something that needs to
- 33:15be forced or pushed. So what can this look like in
- 33:19terms of how play therapy works so often times and what happens
- 33:26in child centre play therapy? After our initial kind of couple
- 33:29of sessions where we've set I guess those expectations, we
- 33:33have a welcome statement that we use with kids.
- 33:35Once kids have gotten into that routine, it's very much
- 33:39welcoming them into the space and allowing them to set the
- 33:42agenda. But what happens is because kids
- 33:45innately want to move towards feeling better, and they want to
- 33:48talk about the things through play that are bothering them, we
- 33:51often see repetitive play. We'll see kids express big
- 33:56emotions. We might see them actually be
- 33:59quite quiet and withdrawn or they might use overt or covert
- 34:04ways to test boundaries. And we will definitely see
- 34:07shifts over time and, and we're able to in our ongoing parent
- 34:12consults, provide you updates along the way about that.
- 34:15But there is no right way for a child to play.
- 34:18Every child is unique. Every experience they have is
- 34:21unique and their feelings are unique.
- 34:24So we're not looking for clues and we're certainly working at
- 34:30their pace because they take the lead.
- 34:33So why or what do parents often worry about?
- 34:37Why do parents worry about potentially using child centre
- 34:40play therapy if you're still trying to understand what it's
- 34:42all about And what do you often worry about the most?
- 34:46So here are some of those common questions.
- 34:48So shouldn't my child talk about what's wrong?
- 34:53Again, we're acknowledging for kids that their natural mode of
- 34:58communication is play. So their preference is always to
- 35:02use play first and then talking maybe second.
- 35:05So I often say when I first meet for the first consultation,
- 35:10before I start working with the child, when I meet with a
- 35:11parent, I'll say to them, it is very likely that the play that I
- 35:17see in the playroom, you will most likely be seeing a version
- 35:20of that at home. Because play and how kids talk
- 35:25doesn't just live in the playroom, it lives everywhere.
- 35:27It lives in the playground, it lives in their classroom, it
- 35:31lives in their bedroom, it lives in their playroom.
- 35:34If they've got a playroom at home, it lives everywhere.
- 35:37So when we understand how they talk through play, we can
- 35:43understand what they're telling us.
- 35:44So it's putting sometimes an adult lens on a child's
- 35:51perspective when it comes to being able to talk about
- 35:54difficult things. We as adults are potentially
- 35:58expecting them to be able to talk when their preference is to
- 36:01play it out. So will they learn skills?
- 36:05Absolutely. Is my my response to that.
- 36:07But it's not going to be necessarily in the way that you
- 36:11may have seen in other interventions.
- 36:13They learn through play, through playing it out, through playing
- 36:17it repetitively, through being supported by the therapist to
- 36:20move towards resolution, to be able to develop in that
- 36:25relationship and test out and troubleshoot new skills.
- 36:30They do that in that relationship with me as the
- 36:32therapist. So then they can start using it
- 36:34outside of the playroom. So yes, they absolutely learn
- 36:36skills, just not in a directive talk based way.
- 36:40How long will this take? I have learned over the last 10
- 36:44years that it is absolutely impossible to be able to
- 36:48pinpoint and guess exactly how many sessions a child is going
- 36:51to need. So we absolutely do not offer
- 36:55any kind of number to parents in an initial consultation.
- 36:58So why do I say that? Because I want to make sure that
- 37:02I'm not setting myself up to fail as the play therapist, but
- 37:05I also don't want to set up the child to fail.
- 37:07If we give expectations of this is how many sessions they're
- 37:10going to need. I often in talking to parents
- 37:13want to I guess, help build that parallel understanding of maybe
- 37:19their own experience of going to therapy as an adult or their
- 37:21understanding of how therapy works for adults.
- 37:24That we don't necessarily put a number to adults when they go to
- 37:28adult counselling or adult talk based therapy.
- 37:32So we can't do that with children either.
- 37:34Children innately know how long they need to be there.
- 37:37And so we, again, our responsibility as the play
- 37:40therapist is to keep the parent updated and informed of how much
- 37:43longer it's going to need. How long will, how will I know,
- 37:47excuse me? How will I know it's working?
- 37:50I mean, that's a great question because you as the parent are
- 37:54investing your time, your resources and your commitment to
- 37:58this approach. And so you want to know that
- 38:00it's going to be progressive and you're going to see shifts and
- 38:04changes. One of the first ways that you
- 38:08will notice if it's working is if you start to see a shift in
- 38:11your child at home or at school. So often times I will have
- 38:16feedback from parents that will say, you know, Johnny, my son is
- 38:21starting to feel or starting to seem a little bit more settled
- 38:25at school. It's not, it's not a massive
- 38:28like aha, yay, they've achieved their goal.
- 38:31It's often very subtle and slow, but you'll just start to see I
- 38:35guess some softening, some de escalation of some of those
- 38:39challenging behaviours. Whatever it is related to the
- 38:41goal of the child, it's, it's very hard, I guess to kind of
- 38:44put definitive indicators, I guess of progress.
- 38:49It's going to be unique for each child, but it will be in
- 38:52relation to the goals that you set with your play therapist in
- 38:54the beginning that if you start to see a shift or progression
- 38:58towards that, that's a great indicator that play therapy is
- 39:02working. It's very important if you feel
- 39:05like you are not sure that progress is happening, that your
- 39:10child might be stuck to reach out to your play therapist.
- 39:14I welcome, you know, any opportunity I can to talk about
- 39:18play therapy. You can only imagine.
- 39:20But I think it is important that we are transparent in our
- 39:23practise. So as play therapist, being able
- 39:26to offer that transparency, to be able to provide those updates
- 39:29to explain the progress that's occurring very important.
- 39:33So I want to normalise if you've had some of these questions that
- 39:36I've just talked about and it's been kind of your wonderings,
- 39:40Your questions come from care and love.
- 39:43And I say that as a parent, they come from a space that you just
- 39:48love your child and want the absolute best for them.
- 39:51We all do as parents. So those questions are important
- 39:55for you to ask if you feel like you're still unsure, We need
- 40:00clarification. I definitely want to unpack
- 40:03further. I've had to keep stopping
- 40:04myself. If you've noticed, I want to
- 40:06dive into so many topics as we've been talking.
- 40:09So we will definitely unpack further aspects of child centre
- 40:14play therapy to help support and educate parents to have a sense
- 40:19of understanding. But just like we do with
- 40:22children, I want to offer you as parents that empowerment and
- 40:26confidence in child centre play therapy because that's
- 40:29important. That you feel when you connect
- 40:32with your play therapist that they've got this, that they know
- 40:36what they're doing and that they've got a plan to support
- 40:38you. That's very important and so
- 40:41much a core part of child centre play therapy.
- 40:44So what might be some of the topics that we'll cover in the
- 40:48next couple of episodes? I want to talk to parents about
- 40:52what progress in child centre play therapy looks like so that
- 40:56you can have an understanding of what that might be all about.
- 40:59Why therapists don't correct kids in session.
- 41:03For example, how CCPT supports so many different presenting
- 41:08issues and skill development, including emotional regulation
- 41:13and how parents can support therapy without feeling that
- 41:17pressure or feeling that urgency.
- 41:21So I hope that this episode, it was really, I guess, an
- 41:28intention to be able to share this information with more
- 41:32families in the communities that we support.
- 41:35We are in something like 38 countries now across the globe
- 41:40our podcast reaches. So I really hope that this is a
- 41:44podcast that might be helpful and useful not just for
- 41:47Australian play therapist but internationally.
- 41:50And I really want to send, I guess that empathy and
- 41:55understanding to parents about how tough it is right now to
- 41:59parent. It is so challenging for so many
- 42:03reasons. So I just want to normalise
- 42:06those struggles and challenges that you might be feeling and
- 42:09facing as well and why play therapy can offer that safe
- 42:13space for kids and also offer that educational support for you
- 42:17as well. So if you're considering play
- 42:19therapy, you're not behind, you're not behind, you're right
- 42:22where you should be. You found us, you found our
- 42:24podcast. So that's amazing.
- 42:27Seeking Understanding is showing how supportive you already are
- 42:32as a parent. So that is amazing.
- 42:35And your child doesn't need to be fixed, they just need to be
- 42:39understood. So maybe in other contexts and
- 42:42other interventions, they just haven't had that opportunity to
- 42:45connect at that deeper level where that therapist can truly
- 42:48understand what's happening for the child.
- 42:52So I am excited to do the next couple of episodes speaking to
- 42:56parents and connecting with parents.
- 42:58So for therapists and parents listing, I hope that this
- 43:01episode has been helpful and useful to you.
- 43:05Thank you so much for being here.
- 43:07I love talking about play therapy as child centre play
- 43:09therapy, as I'm sure you can tell.
- 43:11So please, please, please reach out if you've got questions.
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- 43:28We post our episodes every week on there and short clips as
- 43:32well. So we are starting to post some
- 43:34short videos about child centre play therapy as well.
- 43:36So you might want to check us out on our social media.
- 43:39We're on Apple and Spotify and YouTube as well.
- 43:43So you anyone that is watching this video right now on YouTube,
- 43:46Hello, hello, hello. So reach out to us.
- 43:50Feel free to email us if you've got questions about this episode
- 43:53or just want more information. Hello at playtherapycircle.com,
- 43:57That's our email. We welcome the chance to connect
- 44:01with you all. So we will keep this
- 44:03conversation going next week with more topics, helping
- 44:07support parents and helping to share this information for
- 44:11therapists as well. Thank you so much for being
- 44:15here. I love to say at the end of
- 44:16every episode to take care of yourself and each other.
- 44:19I think that's so relevant now more than ever.
- 44:22So please, please, please look after yourself and each other.
- 44:24Have a wonderful rest of your week.
- 44:27And like I said, next week we're going to continue the
- 44:30conversation. But I am also super excited
- 44:32about our practise birthday, so I've got to obviously share
- 44:36about that along the way as well.
- 44:38So all fun things coming up in the weeks ahead.
- 44:41So thank you so much for your support.
- 44:43Please look after yourself and each other.
- 44:45Go well and I will see you next time.
- 44:47Bye. Thank you so much for being here
- 44:53for another episode of The Play Therapy Circle.
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- 45:14want it to feel like a conversation.
- 45:16Until next time, take care of yourself and remember you belong
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