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Did Skid Row Blow It While Aerosmith Said Goodbye? | THE CLASSIC METAL SHOW LIVE 10/31/26 · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_02: It's Metal Church right here on your classic metal show from the dark release
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SPEAKER_02: with Watch the Children Pray.
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SPEAKER_02: And kicking off the show tonight,
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SPEAKER_02: we heard LA Guns from the Waking the Dead release with the title track and
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SPEAKER_02: a man who's been known to wake the dead with some of his antics
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SPEAKER_02: in his younger years, my good friend and partner, Chris Akin.
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SPEAKER_02: What's going on there, Chris?
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SPEAKER_03: What is up, man?
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SPEAKER_03: How's it going?
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SPEAKER_03: You have no backdrop.
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SPEAKER_02: I just see green screen.
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SPEAKER_03: I know, but the fans see the backdrop.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know what the fuck's going on.
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SPEAKER_03: The ghosts are in the machine, so to speak.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: I know what a big police fan you are, too.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm literally looking at the OBS, and it's not a green screen.
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SPEAKER_03: It's the Billy Studio.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: But you see a green screen for some fucking reason.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I updated OBS today, probably the biggest mistake of my life.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, boy.
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SPEAKER_02: But, well, as long as the fans see what you think they should see, so be it.
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SPEAKER_02: But they don't even realize you're sitting there naked.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
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SPEAKER_03: This is green screen clothes.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm painting my dick green so it doesn't show on the screen.
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SPEAKER_03: That's it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're the green goblin.
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SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Mr. Grinch.
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SPEAKER_02: There you are.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, here we are on Halloween.
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SPEAKER_02: Halloween.
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SPEAKER_02: One of the rare occasions that the Classic Metal Show falls on a Halloween and
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SPEAKER_02: a Saturday night that unfortunately we kick the clocks back an hour.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't mind this kickback, although I wish we weren't doing it at all.
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SPEAKER_02: I wish we weren't doing it at all either.
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SPEAKER_02: I absolutely hate this.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't love it.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't love it,
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SPEAKER_03: but I don't mind this one as bad because I actually do get an extra hour
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SPEAKER_03: of quote-unquote rest, I guess, but...
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SPEAKER_03: A whole hour.
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SPEAKER_02: A whole 60 minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: Look, when you go as long as I do on a Saturday into Sunday morning until
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SPEAKER_01: the light sun comes up, I'll take that hour.
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SPEAKER_01: That hour is precious.
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SPEAKER_02: You're living to the light of day.
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SPEAKER_02: Just like Michael J.
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SPEAKER_02: Fox and Joan Jett.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly right.
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SPEAKER_02: Right there in Cleveland.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Next thing I know, you're going to be Entertaining at the Euclid Tavern.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I'm that big time.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, then you'll get kicked off stage what would be Nine Inch Nails.
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SPEAKER_03: Right, exactly.
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SPEAKER_03: Look at Jackal already, bonus hour.
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SPEAKER_03: I can promise you, Jackal, there will not be a bonus hour.
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SPEAKER_02: We go through this
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SPEAKER_03: every time.
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SPEAKER_03: Every fucking time.
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SPEAKER_03: We're not doing it, nor do we cut off an hour.
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SPEAKER_03: In six months.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't short you an hour when the clocks turn ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So we're not going to give you an hour when the clocks turn back.
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SPEAKER_02: How about that?
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SPEAKER_03: That's it.
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SPEAKER_03: We're doing six hours.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't give a shit what your fucking clock says.
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SPEAKER_02: Six hours of our greatness, that's all you get.
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SPEAKER_02: That's it.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: it's so funny,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, when people who, you know, who are fans of the show, and trust me, I...
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SPEAKER_02: Appreciate each and every one who tunes in every week, but they want more.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just like, what is it that we do that you want more of?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, seriously, six hours of us.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, you go,
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SPEAKER_02: all right,
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SPEAKER_02: I've had enough of these two chuckleheads, but it's like, no, we want one more.
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SPEAKER_02: Give us one more.
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SPEAKER_03: That's like four hours more than I want of us.
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SPEAKER_03: I'd love this to be two hours.
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SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, you and I both agree that, you know, things do fly by as quick as they do.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But, you know, six hours.
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SPEAKER_02: Come on, man.
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SPEAKER_02: That's plenty.
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SPEAKER_02: Come on, man, as the former former Joe Biden would say.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Even Joe Rogan doesn't do six hours and they pay him 100 million a year or whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you what, guys, if you guys could do enough super chats to fund 100 million dollars.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll give you an extra hour for the rest of this year and all of next year.
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SPEAKER_03: In fact,
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SPEAKER_03: I'll give you eight hours a Saturday if you guys can just contribute $100 million
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SPEAKER_03: between now and the end of the year in rumble rants or whatever
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SPEAKER_03: the fuck they're called.
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SPEAKER_03: See, Jay Lee got us started.
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SPEAKER_03: He put the first $5 in.
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SPEAKER_03: Did he?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Jay Lee.
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SPEAKER_02: I get $250 of that, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, let me text that over to you right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Venmo me, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let me do that.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you take Zell, Neely?
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SPEAKER_03: Can I Zell you after tax about a dollar and a quarter?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't do any of that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't do any of that mobile banking shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Can I write you a check for a dollar and a quarter?
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SPEAKER_03: Give me my piece, man.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
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SPEAKER_02: But here we are on Halloween.
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SPEAKER_02: What does that mean for you and I?
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely nothing.
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SPEAKER_03: Not a damn thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I looked out the window two or three times earlier this evening.
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SPEAKER_02: I did not see a one trick-or-treater in the entire neighborhood.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess they don't do that anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: They do do it,
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SPEAKER_03: but there's,
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SPEAKER_03: and I am speaking from a thousand percent ignorance here other than,
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SPEAKER_03: I know I saw it advertised a couple times when I was doing
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SPEAKER_03: the pinball PA social shit.
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SPEAKER_03: There's something in every city,
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SPEAKER_03: and if somebody in the chat wants to explain what it is, that's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that trick or trunk?
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SPEAKER_03: Trunk or treat.
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SPEAKER_02: Trunk or treat, yes.
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SPEAKER_03: But I don't know what that is,
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SPEAKER_03: but it seems like that's like the safe way to trick or treat or something.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, it's typically sponsored by church organizations.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, so it's a safe way of having Halloween, I guess, in a safe environment or something.
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SPEAKER_02: My nephews came to have dinner with me a couple Sundays ago.
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SPEAKER_02: And as we were driving to dinner, they were having this trunk or treat thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't know what it was either.
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SPEAKER_02: And my nephews knew what it was.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, what the hell is going on here?
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SPEAKER_02: Because there were quite a few people there,
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SPEAKER_02: a couple hundred at least,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: parents and their kids and everybody dressed up in Halloween,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, Costumes and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, wait, what the hell's going on?
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SPEAKER_02: And my nephews knew what it was.
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SPEAKER_02: He goes, yeah, I think that's a trunk or treat thing.
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SPEAKER_03: So do they all just gather in one place and get like handed a whole bag full of candy?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's like,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's they play games and they get candy and it's sort of like a,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, it's a, it's a sponsored by church organization, I guess.
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SPEAKER_03: According to dude, bro.
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SPEAKER_03: People don't do it in the neighborhood anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: They pack them into cars and go to the rich neighborhoods.
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Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I didn't hear, of course, I was asleep, so they could have been banging on my door all evening.
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SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't have heard it.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: They wouldn't have got shit either because there ain't no candy here.
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SPEAKER_03: Sorry, I'm on a diet, kids.
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SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: No candy for you.
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SPEAKER_03: Would you like an apple?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what?
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SPEAKER_02: I see so many of these videos out there.
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SPEAKER_02: Just a certain demographic out there who will just walk up on a porch and take the entire bowl.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, and it's like, who are you fucking people?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I'll tell you the reason.
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SPEAKER_03: The reason is because the parents don't smack them in the back of the head when they do that.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to lie and say I never tried to do that
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SPEAKER_03: when I was 10 years old either, and they just leave the bucket out there.
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SPEAKER_03: I can remember distinctly taking the bucket and dumping it in my bag,
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SPEAKER_03: and my dad fucking smacking me in the back of the head and dumping all my candy back
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SPEAKER_03: in the bucket and taking my ass home.
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SPEAKER_03: Don't be such a fucking gluttonous pig, you bitch.
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SPEAKER_02: I saw this one of this Indian woman come riding by on a bicycle, of all things.
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SPEAKER_02: She stops at a porch.
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SPEAKER_02: And not only did she take all the candy, but then she took some of the lights off the porch.
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SPEAKER_02: They were like LED lights.
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SPEAKER_02: They had the railings of the porch and things decorated with battery-operated lights, I guess.
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SPEAKER_02: And she took them.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Most people are in training to grow up to become Amazon package thieves.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
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SPEAKER_03: Halloween is their training ground.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_02: There's just some places where a 12-gauge really comes in handy.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's just some people that just need to be killed.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, really.
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SPEAKER_02: You serve no purpose.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: You serve no purpose.
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SPEAKER_01: None.
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SPEAKER_03: None.
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SPEAKER_03: What is the thing in the Bible about the people fiddling while Rome burned
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SPEAKER_03: and everybody just kind of danced around and didn't give a fuck
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SPEAKER_03: that their own lives were ending?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: That's kind of where we're at now with society.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Society is slowly burning and we're sitting there going, yeah, give me some more gas.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no shit.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: I've been slightly amused and kind of riled up a little bit watching some
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SPEAKER_02: of these Degenerates, you know, that just can't act civilized in society.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I get trick-or-treat and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: the whole shenanigans with Halloween and all that,
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SPEAKER_02: but this is a day-in, day-out occurrence for some demographics.
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SPEAKER_02: This is what they do every day.
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SPEAKER_03: Every day is Halloween in Sweden.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Every single day.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just like, you fuckers.
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SPEAKER_03: The Swedish neighborhood Walmarts, they have it every single day.
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SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
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SPEAKER_02: This is done with it.
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SPEAKER_02: Done with it.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm with you.
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SPEAKER_02: The fatigue is now exhaustion.
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SPEAKER_03: It's past exhaustion.
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SPEAKER_03: It's coma-inducing at this point.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: So, anyway, what's new
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SPEAKER_02: in your world?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think I spoke with you at all this week.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think you did.
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SPEAKER_03: And there's nothing new in my world.
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SPEAKER_03: Nothing at all.
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SPEAKER_03: What happened?
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SPEAKER_03: I got my pulmonary back finally after six weeks.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: And I have asthma.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh.
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SPEAKER_03: It's not the worst, but...
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think you did not know that.
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SPEAKER_03: Here is your new permanent prescription to an inhaler.
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SPEAKER_02: But are you short of breath and have a hard time breathing and stuff?
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SPEAKER_03: Not going to lie, I am tonight.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I don't have the inhaler yet.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, I mean, have you had those symptoms for a while or something?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, since I had COVID.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, well, that's been years.
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SPEAKER_03: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: That's been five years.
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SPEAKER_02: But I just.
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SPEAKER_02: What have you been doing since?
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SPEAKER_02: Sitting around, not going anywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: But you haven't not left the house because you can't breathe.
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SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_03: Nothing like that.
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SPEAKER_03: But I do get.
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SPEAKER_03: It's the weirdest goddamn thing because I get fucking winded like a motherfucker.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Just walking out to the mailbox or something.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_03: But I don't get.
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SPEAKER_03: Like.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know how to explain this.
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SPEAKER_03: There's a difference between being winded and being tired from exercise.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, you're not getting enough oxygen in your system.
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SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I'll go out and I'll do stuff or I'll walk around or whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: And I won't get tired from too much exercise or something,
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SPEAKER_03: which you might expect as a fat fuck walking around the neighborhood
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SPEAKER_03: and fucking wind you.
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SPEAKER_03: But it's not like that.
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SPEAKER_03: But it's literally I'm 14 steps down my driveway and I'm like,
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SPEAKER_02: oh, Yeah, well, yeah, you're not getting enough oxygen in your system is what it is.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I'm slowly but surely turning into one of those old fucks that's going
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SPEAKER_03: to have my,
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SPEAKER_03: the excitement to my week will be filling my little pill collector and my,
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SPEAKER_03: you know, oh, good, I get to take the green one today.
14:03
SPEAKER_03: Yes, it's Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Tuesday is green.
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SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: I'm slowly between the iron pills and now this fucking thing and Now I got
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SPEAKER_03: to put eardrops in my ear every fucking night.
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SPEAKER_03: It's like, holy fuck, I am an old fucking loser.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, let's just put it this way.
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SPEAKER_02: Had you not gone to get physical and get medical attention and all this and that,
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SPEAKER_02: you would have been happily ignorant of any of these things.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, that's exactly it.
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SPEAKER_03: I literally said that to somebody yesterday.
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SPEAKER_03: I literally was like, I wish I just didn't know.
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SPEAKER_03: Because now that I know, now it bugs me even more.
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SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_03: It was better when I was just saying, I'm just a fat fuck, I'm out of breath, whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, that was actually a better answer than, well, you have asthma.
14:51
SPEAKER_03: And if you stray too far away from, because I know what's going to happen.
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SPEAKER_03: It's just like wearing fucking glasses, which I'm supposed to do and I don't.
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SPEAKER_03: When you start wearing glasses, your vision starts to go.
15:05
SPEAKER_03: So that's why I only wear them when my eyes are really fucked up.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, that's the only time I put them on.
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SPEAKER_03: And it's because I've been trying to preserve my sight.
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SPEAKER_03: But it is with the advent of putting doctors in my world.
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SPEAKER_03: Now, now it's like a whole thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Now it's like, well, if you want to hear right, you got to put these drops in your fucking head.
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SPEAKER_03: And if you want to breathe right, you got to puff on this fucking silver dick once a day.
15:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:34
SPEAKER_03: And if you want to not die of low iron or low vitamin D or whatever,
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SPEAKER_03: you got to take this fucking pill every day.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, just fucking kill me.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: But see,
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SPEAKER_02: here's the thing,
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SPEAKER_02: and I can only attest for myself,
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SPEAKER_02: is because I'm aware of all those things that diminish as you get older
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SPEAKER_02: that I've always...
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SPEAKER_02: I kept up on preventative action.
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SPEAKER_02: So knowing that you lose iron or you lose vitamin D or whatever it is,
16:08
SPEAKER_02: I kept up on the study on that, the ravages of aging.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, I'm no spring chicken, but I'm doing pretty well for aging.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: You know what I do?
16:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not on any medication.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't wear glasses.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: I can see and hear perfectly.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm in, you know, good health.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: But I started,
16:31
SPEAKER_02: you might remember years ago when we used to have Bob Leather on or,
16:36
SPEAKER_02: you know, people and we were and I would talk about dietary habits and stuff.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like,
16:42
SPEAKER_02: You know,
16:43
SPEAKER_02: poking fun at me for,
16:44
SPEAKER_02: you know, eating right and eating healthy and doing these things right.
16:48
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, well, it's paid off in the long
16:51
SPEAKER_01: run.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
16:53
SPEAKER_02: Because I've been this way for decades, you know.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: See, I spent so long not thinking I was going to be here.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: That I didn't give a shit.
17:04
SPEAKER_02: I know that.
17:05
SPEAKER_03: That I literally was like, fuck it.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: You believed you had a certain expiration date.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: I did.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: And you lived that way as if that expiration date was going to come up on you.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: And now you're way past that expiration date that you had in your head.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: And you're just like, wait a minute.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: I might have a chance to prolong myself a little bit.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: I passed the third year of the expiration
17:28
SPEAKER_03: date on Tuesday.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, happy birthday.
17:30
SPEAKER_03: Belated birthday.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:33
SPEAKER_03: Like, I give a shit.
17:34
SPEAKER_03: What are you, 58?
17:35
SPEAKER_03: 58, yeah.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: 58.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:39
SPEAKER_03: But, I mean, I lived so long just going for it, going, fuck it.
17:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to eat as much fucking pizza as I want, and you can't stop me.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: And you couldn't stop yourself.
17:50
SPEAKER_03: No, and I couldn't.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: I really couldn't.
17:52
SPEAKER_03: I still have trouble with that one.
17:54
SPEAKER_03: But, yeah,
17:56
SPEAKER_03: when you've kind of just said,
17:57
SPEAKER_03: fuck it, now all of a sudden I'm like, not fuck it anymore?
18:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm really kind of focused in a little more on,
18:05
SPEAKER_03: I haven't had my third cup of water today or whatever.
18:08
SPEAKER_03: You know,
18:09
SPEAKER_03: I get to that point and I'm like, ooh,
18:12
SPEAKER_03: you know,
18:13
SPEAKER_03: and it's such a weird thing for me because I'm so used to, well,
18:18
SPEAKER_03: it's nine o'clock,
18:19
SPEAKER_03: it's as good a time as any to make a screwdriver and just start drinking.
18:23
SPEAKER_03: You know,
18:23
SPEAKER_03: I lived,
18:24
SPEAKER_03: and you know this well,
18:26
SPEAKER_03: when I first got divorced for that first five years,
18:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't think there was one time I was on this show sober.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: Was there?
18:34
SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: And if you were, I couldn't tell the difference.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:39
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was always drunk.
18:41
SPEAKER_03: Always drunk.
18:42
SPEAKER_03: And I was just living to die.
18:45
SPEAKER_03: And now I'm actually trying to hang around for a little bit.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, all right, well.
18:49
SPEAKER_03: I guess this comes with not trying to hang around for the first 50 fucking years.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, I didn't give a shit for 55 years.
18:58
SPEAKER_03: So now it's like, oh,
19:00
SPEAKER_03: now I'm stuck to pills and doctors and,
19:04
SPEAKER_03: you know, it's like, fuck, I just have so many goddamn doctor's appointments.
19:08
SPEAKER_03: And every other day I get a call from the fucking VA.
19:13
SPEAKER_03: Uh, yeah.
19:14
SPEAKER_03: Dr. So-and-so just wants to tell you that.
19:17
SPEAKER_03: And, and I hate when that's the start of every call.
19:20
SPEAKER_03: Every call is like, I'm calling from Dr. So-and-so's office.
19:23
SPEAKER_03: Just got a little information for you.
19:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
19:26
SPEAKER_03: I know this isn't going to be your perfectly healthy and your dick's grown two inches.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: I know that's not what it's going to be.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, I know it's going to be something awful or you wouldn't be calling me.
19:37
SPEAKER_03: Right.
19:38
SPEAKER_03: Give it to me.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, All things considering,
19:44
SPEAKER_02: when the things that you've chosen to share here on the show over
19:49
SPEAKER_02: the last few months, all things considering, you're not in a bad way.
19:57
SPEAKER_03: Not as far as the internals.
19:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's still obviously the fat that has to come off, or I will be dead here soon.
20:07
SPEAKER_03: And I know that, and the docs know that, and I'm trying to do that.
20:12
SPEAKER_03: I have Fat Camp Day 2 coming up in two weeks.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: And what does that mean?
20:18
SPEAKER_03: I think that's when they're actually going to start.
20:21
SPEAKER_03: We're going to actually have the conversation about GLP-1s versus getting cut on
20:26
SPEAKER_03: and starting to make that decision.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: I gotcha.
20:31
SPEAKER_03: We haven't done that part yet.
20:33
SPEAKER_03: We've agreed that I'm willing to do it,
20:35
SPEAKER_03: but we have to do – I don't even know what you have to do to – Honestly,
20:40
SPEAKER_03: you know, I'm still going into this happily stupid.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's not like I get done with one thing.
20:47
SPEAKER_03: It's like, oh, let me look up and see what other people have done with this.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: You know,
20:51
SPEAKER_03: I'm just like,
20:52
SPEAKER_03: I'll show up for the appointment and they'll tell me what they're going to tell me
20:55
SPEAKER_03: and I'll tell them what I'm going to tell them.
20:57
SPEAKER_03: I'm not shy.
20:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm not one of those people that's going to be pushed around by a doctor.
21:03
SPEAKER_03: Fuck that.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're not going to zoom.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, whatever you say, I guess.
21:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: But if I did that, you're going to question everything.
21:11
SPEAKER_03: If I ever did just what a doctor is going to say blindly,
21:14
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't have this fucking hand because they wanted
21:17
SPEAKER_03: to cut this fucking arm off back when I was burned up.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: And I just laughed at them and said, no, you're not doing that.
21:24
SPEAKER_03: And they were like, no, no, we have to.
21:25
SPEAKER_03: We have to.
21:26
SPEAKER_03: You got gangrene in your elbow.
21:28
SPEAKER_03: We have to cut your arm off.
21:30
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, nah, we're not doing that.
21:33
SPEAKER_03: We're not doing it.
21:35
SPEAKER_03: And I swear to you, they had my whole family in there, my mom, my dad, Georgetta.
21:40
SPEAKER_03: And I looked at Georgetta.
21:41
SPEAKER_03: I was like, if I wake up from a surgery and my arm is missing, I will never fucking forgive you.
21:46
SPEAKER_03: And I screamed at her.
21:48
SPEAKER_03: And she's like, yeah, I'm not signing off on that.
21:51
SPEAKER_03: She knew.
21:52
SPEAKER_03: She knew.
21:52
SPEAKER_03: I would have cut.
21:53
SPEAKER_03: Even in divorce,
21:54
SPEAKER_03: I would have still called her every fucking day to remind her
21:57
SPEAKER_03: that she cut my fucking arm off.
21:59
SPEAKER_03: I would have.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: I have no doubt in my mind I would have ruined her life for ruining my life.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: And thankfully it didn't come to that.
22:07
SPEAKER_03: Thankfully I took a risk and I was right and the doctors were wrong and so be it.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: You and Dave Mustaine have something in common.
22:16
SPEAKER_03: No, it's that and a horrible attitude.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: Both have that too.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
22:27
SPEAKER_02: overall, we're,
22:30
SPEAKER_02: I think,
22:30
SPEAKER_02: you know,
22:31
SPEAKER_02: myself included,
22:32
SPEAKER_02: I think the fans appreciate you just being as open and honest about everything going
22:37
SPEAKER_02: on with you.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: It's a sort of, we're all taking this journey with you in a way.
22:41
SPEAKER_03: What am I going
22:42
SPEAKER_02: to do?
22:43
SPEAKER_02: Not tell?
22:44
SPEAKER_02: No, but you're,
22:45
SPEAKER_02: you know, you're, You're open, and I think the fans in general are very supportive.
22:51
SPEAKER_03: I think so.
22:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they are, and they do message me.
22:54
SPEAKER_03: I get a lot of messages off of the show.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: Dude, just want to tell you,
22:59
SPEAKER_03: my cousin Sid,
23:00
SPEAKER_03: he did this, and he had that, and this is what he did, and I get a lot of those.
23:04
SPEAKER_03: I get, you know, and I appreciate them all, and I do tend to answer them all.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't just look at it and not answer it, but And you know this better than anybody.
23:14
SPEAKER_03: The show,
23:15
SPEAKER_03: the people don't know this,
23:16
SPEAKER_03: but when I came back to the show, like in 2012 or whatever it was.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
23:24
SPEAKER_03: When I came back to the show, me and you had a conversation.
23:28
SPEAKER_03: And I told you at that point,
23:30
SPEAKER_03: I said I would come back,
23:31
SPEAKER_03: but I would only come back if I was just brutally honest about everything
23:36
SPEAKER_03: in my life.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: Right.
23:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, instead of, I didn't want to just...
23:41
SPEAKER_03: I felt like as good as I thought that the years that we did previous with
23:46
SPEAKER_03: the show were,
23:47
SPEAKER_03: I didn't like having to keep the kind of Georgetta thing out of the picture.
23:55
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
23:56
SPEAKER_03: Because that was an important part.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: The show would have been that much more fucking crazy
24:00
SPEAKER_03: if I would have been sharing some of that stuff.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: It really was.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, because you saw it firsthand.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine if I had those stories in real time to tell?
24:10
SPEAKER_03: Holy shit,
24:10
SPEAKER_03: you might have seen me and her fist fighting on the air,
24:14
SPEAKER_03: which would have been great for the show.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: It wouldn't have been great for my life, but it would have been great for the show.
24:20
SPEAKER_03: And when I came back,
24:21
SPEAKER_03: I told you that,
24:21
SPEAKER_03: that I was like,
24:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm coming back,
24:23
SPEAKER_03: but I'm going to be deadly honest and I don't care what that causes me as far
24:28
SPEAKER_03: as problems.
24:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm just going to be honest.
24:31
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, you can go back and listen.
24:34
SPEAKER_03: It's not like there's any, A,
24:36
SPEAKER_03: I don't need to prove myself, but B,
24:38
SPEAKER_03: if you want proof,
24:39
SPEAKER_03: You can go back and hear those 2012,
24:42
SPEAKER_03: 2013 episodes,
24:43
SPEAKER_03: especially where I was going out when I was in my dating frenzy after divorce
24:49
SPEAKER_03: and I was going out and then I was reading texts and stuff
24:54
SPEAKER_03: and just blowing up relationship after relationship by being real, by being honest.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: And I like that.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: I like that part,
25:04
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:06
SPEAKER_03: Other than admitting sticking my dick in a fucking ham,
25:10
SPEAKER_03: you know, everything else that I've told, I don't have any regrets about.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: And even that I don't because it's a funny story.
25:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's true, but it's funny.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: And also,
25:21
SPEAKER_02: also circumstances in my life changed where I could also be open
25:26
SPEAKER_02: about things I couldn't be open with before because I was involved with
25:30
SPEAKER_02: a family related business.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: And my former brother-in-law was deathly afraid that one
25:39
SPEAKER_02: of our potential clients would catch wind of something I'm saying on the show,
25:45
SPEAKER_02: especially with you, because periodically my sister would tune in and listen.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: Your friend Chris, you know, I'd have to hear about that, you know.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
25:57
SPEAKER_02: I was no longer involved in that situation,
26:00
SPEAKER_02: which allowed me to also be,
26:03
SPEAKER_02: you know, open about a lot of things I couldn't be open about before.
26:07
SPEAKER_03: Well,
26:07
SPEAKER_03: there was a lot of time where me and you would have a conversation during the week
26:13
SPEAKER_03: and I would so want to bring it up.
26:15
SPEAKER_03: And you're like, nah, dude,
26:16
SPEAKER_03: come on,
26:16
SPEAKER_03: let's leave that kind of off the table, especially with some of the women, you know.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
26:22
SPEAKER_03: Some of the,
26:22
SPEAKER_03: there's still things that I would love to go to,
26:25
SPEAKER_03: but I'm just like, nah, you know what?
26:28
SPEAKER_03: I know he still talks to this one every once in a while.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: Let's, let's leave that alone.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: Right.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, but, but I mean, you've got a lot like, and I'll be honest.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: And again,
26:39
SPEAKER_03: since we're just pulling the curtain back and just telling everything,
26:42
SPEAKER_03: when you told the story about, I don't want to say your name.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: Cause I don't know if you ever have about the one from Pittsburgh.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Pittsburgh girl.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: And I met the Pittsburgh girl in Chicago.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: I was stunned that you brought it to the air.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: I was stunned.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: She pushed my button so bad that I had no problem with that.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: But it's so out of character for you.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: True, but I had nothing to lose at that point.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, it was done.
27:13
SPEAKER_02: Because that just...
27:14
SPEAKER_02: That was like one of the worst experiences I ever had in a relationship as far
27:22
SPEAKER_02: as just flat out just being a cunt.
27:26
SPEAKER_03: Well, and she definitely lived up to that.
27:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't think I've ever turned on anybody's girlfriend,
27:33
SPEAKER_03: not even just yours,
27:34
SPEAKER_03: anybody's girlfriend as fast as I did on that one because I committed the crime
27:40
SPEAKER_03: of offering to buy her a drink.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: And she acted like I asked her to,
27:45
SPEAKER_03: you know, suck my dick and fucking let me finger bang her asshole.
27:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, she literally was like, well, don't you know that I don't, Wendell should have told you.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: Why are you being so disrespectful?
27:58
SPEAKER_03: I was like, whoa.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: I thought Kelly was going to kick her ass because Kelly was like, you need to shut the fuck up.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: I was like, what the fuck?
28:11
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, all I literally did was said, hey, I'm going to the bar.
28:14
SPEAKER_03: You want me to get you a drink?
28:17
SPEAKER_03: And somehow that was an ultimate crime.
28:21
SPEAKER_03: Ultimate crime.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: I was like, geez.
28:27
SPEAKER_03: Chicks.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: I've had a share.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you have.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: I've had a share.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: You have.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: You know, but that's.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: Two years.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Two years is usually, you know, about the limit.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is it for you, really.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: It's like,
28:50
SPEAKER_02: then it becomes a problem of the whole, you know, where's this going thing?
28:57
SPEAKER_02: Where's this going?
28:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's not going anywhere.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: It's where it is today.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: Where's it going?
29:04
SPEAKER_03: Do you still have to do that show with that foul-mouthed fat guy?
29:08
SPEAKER_03: There's all those things.
29:11
SPEAKER_03: And I heard that a lot over the years.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I know you have.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: I feel confident in saying that every girlfriend you've ever had since me
29:22
SPEAKER_03: and you have been doing the show hated me.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: Except one.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: Who's the one?
29:28
SPEAKER_03: Taylor.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: And she does.
29:33
SPEAKER_03: She seems to like me.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: And she likes the show.
29:37
SPEAKER_03: Well, then that's why.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: Believe me, though,
29:39
SPEAKER_03: if she ever moved to the point where she's trying to pull you out of the show,
29:43
SPEAKER_03: I will instantly be cancer in her fucking stomach.
29:48
SPEAKER_03: Instantly.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they all do.
29:52
SPEAKER_03: They all hate you.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: And then they all hate me.
29:56
SPEAKER_03: After two years, at first, they're like, oh, you're friendly.
29:58
SPEAKER_03: So friendly.
29:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
30:00
SPEAKER_03: It's just fun.
30:01
SPEAKER_03: It's fun.
30:02
SPEAKER_03: And then it's like, I don't like the way he talks about women.
30:06
SPEAKER_03: I think he was talking about me.
30:09
SPEAKER_03: And I know that's what you've heard.
30:10
SPEAKER_03: I know that's what you've heard.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: Hell, you even got into it with my sister.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
30:18
SPEAKER_02: And you were nothing but kind to her and her husband.
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SPEAKER_03: Couldn't have given me a colder shoulder after I literally hooked him up
31:17
SPEAKER_03: to meet Michael Francis.
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SPEAKER_02: I know.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, holy shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll meet him in spite of you, you fucking prick.
31:31
SPEAKER_02: What an asshole you are.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: I know.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, she earned that one.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: That's one of those things.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: A lot of times,
31:42
SPEAKER_03: if I felt I was wrong about it,
31:45
SPEAKER_03: I would have called you and had you get her on the phone and apologized for it.
31:49
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: Because I'm not going to lie and say I wasn't over the line.
31:54
SPEAKER_03: Me calling a...
31:56
SPEAKER_03: One of your family members, a cunt, even though she was...
32:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you called her that.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: I think you said, stop acting like a cunt.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: Stop acting like one is what you said.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: You didn't say, you know, shut up cunt or something.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: You're a cunt, yeah, no.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: You said, well, you said something.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: Stop acting like a cunt, yeah.
32:13
SPEAKER_02: She said something about the C word.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: And you said, well, stop acting like a cunt then.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
32:21
SPEAKER_03: And...
32:22
SPEAKER_03: 99.99% of the time I might have been like,
32:28
SPEAKER_03: you know,
32:29
SPEAKER_03: that's your sister,
32:30
SPEAKER_03: you know,
32:31
SPEAKER_03: maybe I'm over the line or maybe I was cranked up a little bit or whatever.
32:34
SPEAKER_03: Let's smooth that out.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: I looked back on it and there's no God's honest truth.
32:40
SPEAKER_03: I listened back to it a couple of times and I was like, no, I'm not.
32:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm not wrong on this.
32:50
SPEAKER_03: And I still don't think I was wrong on that.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
32:53
SPEAKER_02: the last blowout I had with her and her husband, that was still part of the blowout.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: And that was in what?
33:04
SPEAKER_01: 2011?
33:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: All I heard from that last blowout that we had,
33:12
SPEAKER_02: and I haven't spoken with them since, because it's been like three years.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: It was like, and you couldn't even defend your sister after your friend called her a cunt.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, in fairness,
33:27
SPEAKER_03: he didn't defend his wife when he saw me at the Michael Francis thing,
33:33
SPEAKER_03: which was after that.
33:35
SPEAKER_03: True.
33:36
SPEAKER_03: He could have easily pulled me aside and been like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
33:39
SPEAKER_03: Or let's duke it out or whatever he wanted to do.
33:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, he could have done that too.
33:46
SPEAKER_03: He did not.
33:48
SPEAKER_03: So I think he's as culpable as you in that situation.
33:52
SPEAKER_03: He had his chance.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: We were right two feet away.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: But in that situation, I didn't think I needed to defend her because she's an adult.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: And in today's world with this, you know, everybody have equal rights, you get treated equally.
34:07
SPEAKER_03: Well, and what got me mad, and I'm not even going to lie about it.
34:12
SPEAKER_03: I was definitely mad.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: I wasn't playing.
34:15
SPEAKER_03: I was definitely mad.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: I did not like her coming on to my show.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: And I know technically it's your show.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: But it's my show and your show.
34:26
SPEAKER_03: Right, of course.
34:27
SPEAKER_03: And I did not like her coming on and trying to act like she was the boss.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: And I was just a fucking monkey here to clap for her.
34:36
SPEAKER_03: And I wasn't going to take that.
34:39
SPEAKER_03: I just wasn't going to.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, since we're telling this whole story anyway, she was drunk.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: I think I was drunk.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: And words were spoken.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: And as adults,
34:56
SPEAKER_02: those kinds of things can just be,
34:58
SPEAKER_02: you know, taken for face value and go, well, I was drunk.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: You were drunk.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: Things were said.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: So be it.
35:05
SPEAKER_03: Move on.
35:07
SPEAKER_03: 15 years later.
35:08
SPEAKER_03: And I did what I still would think would be a big enough favor to kind of wipe the slate clean.
35:15
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying forgive.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: But the slate should be at least start at zero at this point.
35:21
SPEAKER_03: Right.
35:21
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
35:22
SPEAKER_03: I completely agree.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: It's not.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: So it's like, all right, whatever.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, the character was shown to me three years ago by both of them,
35:32
SPEAKER_02: even though she's blood and, you know, and her poor choices and husbands and things.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: The character has been shown to me at that time.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not going to let it go unless I get a...
35:46
SPEAKER_02: Some kind of an apology, and I have not received that yet, so it's not going to happen.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: I don't blame you.
35:53
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
35:53
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we won't get into all that.
35:55
SPEAKER_03: I definitely know that story, and you're not wrong on that either.
35:58
SPEAKER_03: You're 100% not wrong on that.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: I would never.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know my story.
36:05
SPEAKER_03: I went 12 years without speaking one word to anybody in my family.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: 12 years.
36:10
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
36:12
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, I don't think I was wrong.
36:15
SPEAKER_03: I still don't think I was wrong.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: I just needed to get over it or I was going to put a bullet in my face.
36:21
SPEAKER_03: So I just needed to just settle it.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: So I did.
36:24
SPEAKER_03: But I still don't think I was wrong.
36:26
SPEAKER_03: I don't.
36:28
SPEAKER_03: It is what it is.
36:30
SPEAKER_03: You had just cause.
36:32
SPEAKER_03: I did.
36:33
SPEAKER_03: I definitely did.
36:35
SPEAKER_03: All right, enough about this.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: Now I'm getting all angry.
36:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, fuck!
36:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, it gets that high blood pressure going.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: And I know you said that's one thing you don't have is high blood pressure.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: Until the next time I go to the doctor,
36:50
SPEAKER_03: I'll be like, what have you been talking about on that show?
36:52
SPEAKER_03: Your blood pressure is 220 over 70.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: And I like the fact that, you know, in your previous situation, I was the bad guy.
37:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
37:09
SPEAKER_03: That literally...
37:11
SPEAKER_03: Was the biggest injustice of understanding a person I think I've ever experienced.
37:20
SPEAKER_03: And I understand it from her side, but she's wrong.
37:25
SPEAKER_03: She had it in her head that the reason I was the way I was was not me.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: It was all the outside sources to me.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
37:37
SPEAKER_03: And that that.
37:39
SPEAKER_03: She was the inside source that I should be leaning toward being more like her
37:45
SPEAKER_03: than all of these outside sources that were not like her.
37:54
SPEAKER_03: Look, I was totally leading the double life.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: I was going to work every day and, hell, I'm so glad to be here.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: How about the big baseball game yesterday?
38:04
SPEAKER_03: That was wonderful.
38:06
SPEAKER_03: I was that guy during the day.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: During the day, I was nine to five, you know, corporate Chris.
38:13
SPEAKER_03: And I played that game and I hated it,
38:15
SPEAKER_03: but I would come home and,
38:18
SPEAKER_03: you know,
38:18
SPEAKER_03: then I had to deal with all her religious bullshit and homework with kids and blah,
38:23
SPEAKER_03: blah, blah, all that bullshit, which I really didn't have any time for.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: It just wasn't for me.
38:28
SPEAKER_03: You know, I was a terrible dad.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: I'll admit that I was not very good at it.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: But then I would be myself and
38:38
SPEAKER_03: For those six hours during the week, that was my self time.
38:44
SPEAKER_03: Those six hours and the two that I would do on MMS were Chris being Chris.
38:49
SPEAKER_03: Well, she always equated that to,
38:52
SPEAKER_03: well, the only time I do crazy shit is when I'm doing that radio stuff.
38:58
SPEAKER_03: So you were the worst of the bad guys, but she didn't like Wardlaw either.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: And he couldn't be a more passive, more easygoing guy that you've ever known in your life.
39:10
SPEAKER_03: He could be a deacon in a church and no one would look twice.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: That's true.
39:15
SPEAKER_03: He is that guy.
39:17
SPEAKER_03: And I was told in both of these situations,
39:20
SPEAKER_03: in this show and in the metal show,
39:22
SPEAKER_03: when I was doing that for MMS, there was a straight guy and then there was me.
39:30
SPEAKER_03: That was my role in both shows.
39:33
SPEAKER_03: You were the one that's disciplined, organized, well thought out.
39:39
SPEAKER_03: And I'm the guy that'll jump off a bridge because somebody threw a dollar and I want it.
39:45
SPEAKER_03: That's the difference.
39:47
SPEAKER_03: And that works.
39:49
SPEAKER_03: You know, it works on this show.
39:50
SPEAKER_03: It worked on the metal show.
39:52
SPEAKER_03: Quite honestly, it works on the Seth show.
39:54
SPEAKER_02: And you're happy being that guy.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's who I am.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: And you're happy being that guy.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: You're happy in your own skin when you're allowed to be who you are.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:07
SPEAKER_03: I love, and I say this without saying that I do things on purpose because I really don't.
40:13
SPEAKER_03: It just happens this way.
40:15
SPEAKER_03: But I love being in the middle of controversy.
40:18
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
40:20
SPEAKER_03: That devil-may-care attitude.
40:22
SPEAKER_03: I am so bored when everything's going smooth.
40:26
SPEAKER_03: That's almost universally when I get into the most trouble.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: I get in trouble when I'm coasting.
40:34
SPEAKER_03: But when we have something cooking or whatever,
40:36
SPEAKER_03: like on this show,
40:38
SPEAKER_03: I have been more happy the last two or three weeks with all this Sebastian Bach
40:42
SPEAKER_03: and Quiet Riot bullshit.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
40:45
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely love it.
40:46
SPEAKER_03: I love that people are all pissed off and upset.
40:49
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, dude,
40:51
SPEAKER_03: in the last three weeks,
40:52
SPEAKER_03: we've had one that has just rubbed people the wrong way constantly.
40:56
SPEAKER_03: First, it was the John Torres stuff.
40:59
SPEAKER_03: Then it was Sebastian Bach.
41:01
SPEAKER_03: And this week it was, um, Hetfield versus, um, Roger Waters.
41:08
SPEAKER_03: And on all of them, You guys are fucking stupid.
41:11
SPEAKER_03: You fucking Trump-tard faggots.
41:15
SPEAKER_03: And I just sit there and smile.
41:18
SPEAKER_03: Where most people would probably be like, oh, fuck this guy.
41:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to tell him.
41:22
SPEAKER_03: I just sit there and I laugh and I heart their comment.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: Because it doesn't affect your life in any way, shape, or form.
41:33
SPEAKER_02: It's nothing.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: You have a viewpoint that I disagree with.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: And?
41:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's just hilarious to me.
41:43
SPEAKER_03: But I love that.
41:45
SPEAKER_03: And you know that.
41:46
SPEAKER_03: I've always loved the controversy.
41:49
SPEAKER_03: When the Rev showed me an ounce of weakness, what did I do?
41:53
SPEAKER_03: I went into that motherfucker with a whole construction crew to tear him apart.
42:00
SPEAKER_03: Same with Talking Metal.
42:02
SPEAKER_03: We held on to Talking Metal for 10 fucking years.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
42:06
SPEAKER_03: And that was really my fight, not even your fight.
42:09
SPEAKER_03: You just liked poking fun at them because they were silly.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they were goofy.
42:13
SPEAKER_03: But for me, it was they got me fired from CBS.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, you had a personal grievance against them.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: Right.
42:22
SPEAKER_03: But I took it out for 10 fucking years.
42:25
SPEAKER_03: I didn't stop.
42:26
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't stop.
42:28
SPEAKER_03: You know, it wasn't until really until I came back that that ended.
42:36
SPEAKER_03: And it was even after that.
42:37
SPEAKER_03: I don't think it was right away then.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: Didn't we try and do Talking Metal once or twice?
42:40
SPEAKER_03: But it just sort of wasn't there anymore.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just, the silliness was gone.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, they weren't quite as dedicated to it either.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:53
SPEAKER_02: Because these guys were moving on to other things.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: You know,
42:56
SPEAKER_02: obviously John was off doing his Ace Fraley thing and You know,
43:00
SPEAKER_02: Mark was trying to host the show solo.
43:03
SPEAKER_02: And when they did do a show together, it just wasn't quite.
43:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it wasn't quite there.
43:08
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't the same energy or whatever.
43:11
SPEAKER_03: And the world changed and our world's changed too.
43:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, that's, I don't think I would have as much fun.
43:17
SPEAKER_03: Like we, I get asked that a lot, you know, in locals and in Facebook messages and stuff.
43:23
SPEAKER_03: You guys need to go back to reviewing more podcasts.
43:26
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, we get it.
43:29
SPEAKER_03: They stink.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, if you think about it,
43:33
SPEAKER_02: you know, a week or so ago in the locals, I posted all of the Jocktobers.
43:39
SPEAKER_02: We literally were doing Jocktober before ONA were doing Jocktober.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because we were doing it in what, seven or six or something?
43:49
SPEAKER_02: 2006.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: 2007,
43:51
SPEAKER_02: and they didn't start Jocktober until 2008 where they started critiquing You know,
43:57
SPEAKER_02: shows, but we were sort of doing that ahead of time.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: We were doing that with the blog talk radio and,
44:04
SPEAKER_03: you know, because we were just looking for stuff to have fun with.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
44:08
SPEAKER_02: And it was all new to us too.
44:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:10
SPEAKER_03: Well, the whole internet thing was new.
44:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, our ability to do a show was new.
44:16
SPEAKER_02: It was, and the content that was out there,
44:21
SPEAKER_02: because everybody and their brother wanted to have a show and be a DJ,
44:25
SPEAKER_02: and they wanted to have this,
44:27
SPEAKER_02: and you and I,
44:30
SPEAKER_02: we both had previous actual broadcast radio experience, and my obsession with
44:41
SPEAKER_02: Good audio, good clean audio and doing it right and sounding like a real show.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: It fooled a lot of people.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: Because they actually thought we were a corporate show.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: They thought we were in the same room.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: But the thing is,
44:58
SPEAKER_02: we used to get those emails and letters about our content all the time
45:03
SPEAKER_02: and how they were going to go to our station manager and get us pulled off the air.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to get you guys fired.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to get you guys pulled off the air.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: So that to me was a testament on how well we did so early on.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: To where people listened to us and they thought we were an actual corporate show.
45:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:26
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that was, God, I cannot stress enough how difficult that was.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Quite honestly, I'm about halfway through our book.
45:35
SPEAKER_03: I am like ridiculously slow at getting this book read.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm finished with it.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to get you to the point of being finished with it so we can kind
45:45
SPEAKER_02: of discuss the strategy of what's next.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: I'll get there by this week.
45:49
SPEAKER_03: But I'm about halfway through.
45:52
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know that we talked about that enough.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: Well, again, there's time to put that in.
45:58
SPEAKER_03: We may have to because I don't know.
46:00
SPEAKER_03: I mean, again, I haven't read the whole thing.
46:02
SPEAKER_03: Do you feel like we addressed that enough?
46:04
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think so.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't think we.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, like I said, I'm about halfway through.
46:09
SPEAKER_02: Right.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, yeah, there's things I believe,
46:13
SPEAKER_02: you know,
46:13
SPEAKER_02: I read through it in two days and I thought,
46:16
SPEAKER_02: well, this needs to be fleshed out a little more.
46:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: And this needs to, you know, this needs to be in there.
46:23
SPEAKER_02: This was kind of an important, you know, stepping stone to where we are today.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: And I agree with you that I had the same exact same feeling that we need to talk
46:34
SPEAKER_02: about that, about how we got where we got.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, there's a little more work to do, but it's getting there.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: I just decided that if it comes out this year, great.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: If it doesn't, if it comes out after the first of the year, I just want it done right.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to lie.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: I don't see any way it comes out this year.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: We're only eight weeks away from the end of the year.
47:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and by the time...
47:07
SPEAKER_03: X does his additions or rewrites or edits or whatever.
47:12
SPEAKER_03: And I do cover work, if it's me that's doing the cover, which I'm assuming it is.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm going to think that that's the way it is.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: And don't despair, folks.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: I know there's been some people waiting on this.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: It's going to be a good book when it comes out.
47:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm just not going to hurry it up just to make it to the end of the year.
47:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to do that.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: If it comes out before the end of the year, so be it.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: But we have the first draft.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: There needs to be some edits done.
47:46
SPEAKER_02: There probably needs to have some additional work done.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, it's got to be right.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: That's the only thing in the back of my mind.
47:56
SPEAKER_02: It's just got to be right.
47:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I agree.
47:59
SPEAKER_03: And we'll get it right.
48:01
SPEAKER_03: And again, I don't think it's bad by any means.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: I wish I'd had time to just sit down.
48:09
SPEAKER_03: For two or three hours and just read.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I read it over two nights.
48:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I keep reading like,
48:18
SPEAKER_03: all right, well,
48:19
SPEAKER_03: I got 15 minutes until this has to start or this phone call has to be made
48:24
SPEAKER_03: or whatever.
48:24
SPEAKER_03: So I pop it up on my phone and then I'm just reading,
48:28
SPEAKER_03: you know,
48:29
SPEAKER_03: 15 minutes and then I stop and then I go and do whatever and then I come back to it,
48:34
SPEAKER_03: you know, four hours later and read another 10 minutes or whatever.
48:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm slowly getting my way through, you know, but I think it's going to be fun.
48:44
SPEAKER_03: I will say this about it,
48:46
SPEAKER_03: and I don't want to turn this into a whole book sell,
48:48
SPEAKER_03: but there's a lot in it that I did not know.
48:54
SPEAKER_03: And this is as somebody that's been here for the whole time.
48:58
SPEAKER_03: So if I didn't know a lot of it,
49:00
SPEAKER_03: I imagine the fans don't know a good amount of it because I'd imagine there's stuff
49:06
SPEAKER_03: That I've said in the book that the fans don't know either.
49:12
SPEAKER_03: Is there stuff for you or did you know everything that I kind
49:14
SPEAKER_02: of heard?
49:15
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: There were things in there, a candid viewpoint that you gave on a few items there.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:24
SPEAKER_02: But there needs to be more.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: The whole story isn't complete.
49:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
49:34
SPEAKER_03: I agree from what I've read.
49:37
SPEAKER_03: Again, it might be complete.
49:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't know,
49:40
SPEAKER_03: but it seems like we're already into where I'm already at is kind of the middle
49:45
SPEAKER_03: of it.
49:47
SPEAKER_03: And we'll see how that all fleshes out, but it'll be fun.
49:53
SPEAKER_03: I'll be anxious and horrified and terrified when it actually comes out.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: Horrified and terrified.
50:05
SPEAKER_03: But I'm like that with all my books.
50:08
SPEAKER_03: Every one of the books that I've released so far, I'm excited to release them.
50:13
SPEAKER_03: Dude, there's nothing better for me and you'll get this experience
50:17
SPEAKER_03: and you'll probably think the same thing.
50:20
SPEAKER_03: The greatest experience is when you finish a book and you get that first box
50:25
SPEAKER_03: and you open the box and it's like, here it is, motherfuckers, my book.
50:33
SPEAKER_03: It really is exciting.
50:35
SPEAKER_03: It's very exciting when you get it.
50:38
SPEAKER_03: And then when you start reading it and distributing it and whatnot,
50:45
SPEAKER_03: and the fans read it,
50:47
SPEAKER_03: and then people that aren't fans, that's always the part that's horrendous to me.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: Is, you know, I got some reviews on, there's a website out there for authors called Goodreads.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people use it to buy books and whatnot and to evaluate books.
51:04
SPEAKER_03: And not everything was always, you rule, Chris, you're the best.
51:11
SPEAKER_03: You know,
51:11
SPEAKER_03: there was quite a few kind of,
51:14
SPEAKER_03: kind of, man, this is like, call me Chris, which I think is my best book.
51:19
SPEAKER_03: Um,
51:20
SPEAKER_03: There was quite a few people that said I was overly graphic for no other reason than
51:24
SPEAKER_03: to be graphic.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you were being shocking for the sake of being shocking.
51:29
SPEAKER_02: Is that the deal?
51:30
SPEAKER_03: That's what they said.
51:31
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51:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think
52:05
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52:26
SPEAKER_03: I personally think that every other book I've ever read on Burnvix,
52:32
SPEAKER_03: which I've read a few, every other one that I read goes soft on what it actually is.
52:39
SPEAKER_03: And that was 100% not what I wanted to do.
52:42
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to tell it as real and as raw as I could so that people
52:48
SPEAKER_03: that read it would be like, oh, and they would feel it.
52:53
SPEAKER_03: Like they would literally feel it.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: You wanted them to experience it from standing in your shoes.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I didn't want this book that does it.
53:05
SPEAKER_03: And then a magic orb came over me and it was Jesus and he picked me up
53:10
SPEAKER_03: and carried me out of the room.
53:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, I didn't want any of that.
53:14
SPEAKER_03: I wanted this shit fucking hurt.
53:18
SPEAKER_03: I wanted 22 fucking surgeries.
53:21
SPEAKER_03: I wanted doing exercises and the fucking stitches ripping and just bleeding all over.
53:27
SPEAKER_03: I wanted that stuff.
53:29
SPEAKER_03: I wanted people to read it and be horrified because getting burned near to death is horrifying.
53:36
SPEAKER_03: And I wanted to portray that.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: And I think I did.
53:38
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, Most of the reviews have been that, have been like, this is a little too close.
53:46
SPEAKER_03: Like, I've got a lot of five-star ones,
53:49
SPEAKER_03: like on Amazon and whatever,
53:50
SPEAKER_03: that say this is a little too close to home,
53:52
SPEAKER_03: but I wouldn't expect anything less from Chris.
53:56
SPEAKER_03: And that's a great compliment for me.
53:59
SPEAKER_03: To me, I love that compliment,
54:02
SPEAKER_03: because that really says that I did exactly what I wanted to do for that person,
54:07
SPEAKER_03: so...
54:08
SPEAKER_03: You know,
54:09
SPEAKER_03: but it is,
54:10
SPEAKER_03: to go back to the main point,
54:13
SPEAKER_03: it is definitely a little bit intimidating when you put your life out there and
54:19
SPEAKER_03: then strangers evaluate you.
54:22
SPEAKER_03: And you get everything.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: You get everything from there's no way that happened to he's lying to,
54:29
SPEAKER_03: you know, he's glamorizing his injuries for his own purpose.
54:35
SPEAKER_03: You know, you get all that shit, which is fine.
54:36
SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
54:37
SPEAKER_03: People think whatever the fuck they want.
54:39
SPEAKER_03: What do I care?
54:39
SPEAKER_03: I took your 17 bucks.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you could be part of Jim Florentine's podcast and stories that never happened.
54:46
SPEAKER_03: There you go, Jim.
54:47
SPEAKER_03: Here's the whole book.
54:48
SPEAKER_03: I didn't get burned at all.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: That's too good.
54:56
SPEAKER_03: I sent him a doozy this week,
54:58
SPEAKER_03: which should be,
54:59
SPEAKER_03: I can't imagine he's not going to use this on his Well,
55:02
SPEAKER_02: I sent him one this week, too.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh, good.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: We might both get some love.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: Because for pinball PA purposes,
55:11
SPEAKER_03: I had to sign up for Nextdoor because the marketing people want me to do Nextdoor.
55:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
55:19
SPEAKER_03: So I signed up for Nextdoor, and I get their emails every day.
55:24
SPEAKER_03: It's unbelievable.
55:26
SPEAKER_03: But the one that I found...
55:27
SPEAKER_03: Was a lady that wrote three fucking paragraphs,
55:31
SPEAKER_03: three fucking paragraphs about her food not being good from McDonald's.
55:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
55:39
SPEAKER_03: And I couldn't screen capture it fast enough and send it to Jim.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: I was like, and I sent it to him and I just get a one word text back from just unreal.
55:53
SPEAKER_03: Because it was unreal.
55:54
SPEAKER_03: She was critiquing McDonald's food.
55:56
SPEAKER_03: McDonald's.
55:57
SPEAKER_03: McDonald's food.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: If it doesn't taste like an actual shit sandwich, be happy.
56:03
SPEAKER_03: It's McDonald's.
56:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:05
SPEAKER_02: It's a C minus at best.
56:07
SPEAKER_03: C minus.
56:08
SPEAKER_03: You must have nicer ones than I do.
56:12
SPEAKER_03: Jesus.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: I'd rather eat a gas station sandwich.
56:20
SPEAKER_03: That's a throwback, by the way, people.
56:22
SPEAKER_03: Neely got it.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you guys did.
56:25
SPEAKER_02: A little Black Metal Ray humor there.
56:27
SPEAKER_03: A little throwback to 2008.
56:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: All right.
56:34
SPEAKER_03: Well, I say we take a break.
56:36
SPEAKER_03: Wait a minute.
56:36
SPEAKER_03: Wait a minute.
56:37
SPEAKER_03: What are we missing?
56:38
SPEAKER_03: Winter in the chat room.
56:41
SPEAKER_03: McDoubles rule?
56:43
SPEAKER_03: No, they don't.
56:45
SPEAKER_03: They rule what?
56:47
SPEAKER_03: They rule as the cheapest sandwich that makes your stomach rot.
56:52
SPEAKER_03: They don't rule.
56:54
SPEAKER_03: They rule at three in the morning when you're shit-faced drunk
56:57
SPEAKER_03: and you need something to get you home.
56:59
SPEAKER_03: A couple of McDoubles will do the job, but it's like eating fucking right out of the toilet.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: You know, the last time I rolled through a McDonald's was 2017.
57:11
SPEAKER_02: Jeez,
57:12
SPEAKER_01: oh man.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: And that wasn't...
57:15
SPEAKER_02: My choice, that was the choice of the person I was with at the time.
57:21
SPEAKER_03: Did you eat something?
57:23
SPEAKER_03: No.
57:24
SPEAKER_03: No, you didn't get, you just rolled through.
57:26
SPEAKER_03: I rolled through there to get her something.
57:28
SPEAKER_03: You're like, what do you want?
57:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, she knew what she wanted.
57:32
SPEAKER_02: She was very focused on that.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, okay.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: You weren't like, oh, and give me a chicken sandwich or a filet-o-fish or whatever?
57:41
SPEAKER_02: No, I was just like, yeah, I'll, you know, I'll pass.
57:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:45
SPEAKER_03: I don't like McDonald's.
57:47
SPEAKER_03: I mean, every once in a great while,
57:49
SPEAKER_03: maybe twice a year, I'll run through there, but
57:53
SPEAKER_01: not a big fan.
57:54
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's literally just like eating a food supplement.
58:00
SPEAKER_03: It's not like, it's kind of like eating MREs back in the military.
58:03
SPEAKER_03: It's not really food, but it's sort of food.
58:08
SPEAKER_03: Food-like.
58:09
SPEAKER_02: It's food adjacent.
58:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's food-like.
58:18
SPEAKER_02: It's similar to food.
58:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it looks like food.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: It kind of smells like something.
58:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:26
SPEAKER_03: That is,
58:26
SPEAKER_03: unless you get the waft of the person that's fucking serving you
58:29
SPEAKER_03: that food coming out of that window.
58:32
SPEAKER_03: Then you're just like, ooh, Jesus.
58:35
SPEAKER_03: No thanks.
58:36
SPEAKER_03: Why does this smell like burnt hair?
58:38
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
58:39
SPEAKER_03: Ugh.
58:43
SPEAKER_03: Or some soul glow.
58:44
SPEAKER_03: What do you think that special sauce is?
58:56
SPEAKER_02: All right.
58:56
SPEAKER_02: Now can we take a break?
58:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we can take a break.
58:59
SPEAKER_02: All right.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, as always,
59:01
SPEAKER_02: those of you who support the show monetarily and put a request in the old fast pass
59:09
SPEAKER_02: in the locals, I appreciate that.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: And if you want to get a request in on a Saturday and you want to support the show,
59:16
SPEAKER_02: go over to classicmetalshow.locals.com.
59:19
SPEAKER_02: Sign up.
59:20
SPEAKER_02: $4.99 a month, $5 a month gives you the little perks that we offer you through the locals.
59:27
SPEAKER_02: And one of the perks is getting a request on a Saturday.
59:31
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
59:31
SPEAKER_02: So that's where the requests come from.
59:34
SPEAKER_02: And if I ever run out,
59:36
SPEAKER_02: which lately I have not been running out of requests,
59:38
SPEAKER_02: you guys and girls have been doing a great job at filling up that FastPass box.
59:44
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
59:45
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, if I ever do run out, I resort to the email request.
59:49
SPEAKER_02: So those who pay get first choice.
59:52
SPEAKER_02: Kind of like riding a ride at Disney.
59:55
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
59:56
SPEAKER_02: So, all right, I will let you pick the song to lead us off.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: So what shall we play?
1:00:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, in honor of Halloween,
1:00:04
SPEAKER_03: why don't we go with Little White Zombie with, what is this song called?
1:00:09
SPEAKER_03: El Phantasmo and the Chicken Liver Special or whatever.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_03: It's some dumb name, but it starts with El Phantasmo.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_03: It's on the Astro Creep record.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_03: It's like track nine or ten or something.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_02: El Phaztasmo?
1:00:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, whatever.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_02: El Phantasmo
1:00:32
SPEAKER_01: or something.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_02: Is it iZombie?
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: No?
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_01: It's on the AstroCreep record.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_01: All right, let's go to the AstroCreep.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_01: Let's go to AstroCreep.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_03: I know that's where it is.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_03: And then it's near the bottom.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_03: Got it.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_02: White zombie AstroCreep.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_02: There we are.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_02: Astro Creep 2000, Songs of Love.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: Astro Creep.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_02: They got a shit ton of stuff up here for White Zombie.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_01: I didn't know this was going to be this hard.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's see here.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_01: It's like track nine or something.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to pull up the album itself because every time I put in a song title,
1:01:32
SPEAKER_02: just that title comes up.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh, there it is.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_02: It's number nine.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I got it.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: All right, well,
1:01:49
SPEAKER_02: leading into this song,
1:01:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to play one of our better Chris beatdowns with the merciless onslaught
1:02:00
SPEAKER_02: of Chris and the Revs.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_02: To wrap up this segment.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_02: So here it is.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: It's the Merciless Onslaught exclusively here.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_03: On your classic metal show.
1:02:11
[music]
1:02:22
SPEAKER_02: Hey guys, Morgan from 7Dust here and you're watching CMS-TV Podcast.
1:02:26
[music]
1:02:39
SPEAKER_02: It's Wasp right here on your classic metal show from the KFD release with the horror.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_02: That one going out by request to Floyd Gundoli.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_02: Just before that, we heard King Diamond in there with Halloween for Shelly Rocks.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_02: The Misfits with the Halloween for Fuego.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_02: Hallow's Eve with Hallow's Eve for Chuck from North Carolina and White Zombie
1:03:01
SPEAKER_02: in there with El Phantasmo and the Chicken Run Blastorama for Chris.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_02: Stupid title.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_02: That's quite a long title.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_01: It's a cool song, but a terrible title.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_01: Which is kind of Rob Zombie's way, isn't it?
1:03:19
SPEAKER_03: He always has these albums that are ridiculous titles and songs with stupid titles
1:03:24
SPEAKER_03: that nobody will remember.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_03: I think that's kind of why he does it.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_01: I like that song, nonetheless.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_01: I love that riff.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_01: It's almost country.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of that Wasp tune,
1:03:40
SPEAKER_02: I was thinking, you know, that KFD album, that was like none other album out there.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_02: From Wasp or in general?
1:03:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, in general and from Wasp.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_03: I think Marilyn Manson might have a thing or two to say about that, but okay.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, but that was the reason Wasp did that album was because of Marilyn Manson.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: Because I remember Blackie doing interviews for KFD,
1:04:09
SPEAKER_02: and he said he was going to out Manson Manson.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't think he did that, but
1:04:17
SPEAKER_03: it's a great record.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_03: Don't get me wrong.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: I'm not shitting on it in any way, shape, or form.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, that show, that KFD show, I still remember that like it was yesterday.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_01: It's a great show.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_02: And that was, what, 1998?
1:04:29
SPEAKER_02: 98, 99, somewhere in there.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I believe it was
1:04:32
SPEAKER_02: 98, but...
1:04:34
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit, that was 30 years ago almost.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: And that was one of the most wild experiences I ever saw.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_02: I saw it at the Odeon.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_02: And Blackie was just trying to pull out as much offensive shit as he could do.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, seriously, he had TVs stacked up on each side of the stage and it was showing porn.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_02: Then he had a cod piece and he had a Makita grinder.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_02: And I think this is the first time he debuted that mic stand,
1:05:14
SPEAKER_02: that Elvis mic stand he still uses to this day.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_02: So I think that's when he debuted that thing.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_02: And then he fucked the nuns.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: And he ground his cod piece on that little Nikita drill or grinder that was on his mic stand.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_02: So he had sparks shooting off his cock.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: And then he fucked it done.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_02: Then he delivered a fetus.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_02: And then he impaled the fetus on his sharp cock.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: Remember that?
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: I do.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: I saw the show.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_02: I was there.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: And then he pulled a pig out of a box and he cut its head off.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_02: And there was blood all over the fucking place.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_01: It was definitely a show.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_01: It was like if you took a Marilyn Manson show and a GWAR show
1:06:08
SPEAKER_03: and you wedged them together and made them a little bit more mean,
1:06:12
SPEAKER_03: that's what you got.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_03: It was a great show.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_03: I don't disagree with you at all.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_03: It was a great show.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_02: That was one of those shows like, holy shit, what
1:06:21
SPEAKER_02: did I just watch here?
1:06:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: Were you not familiar with the record ahead of it?
1:06:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, it was new, but the stage show was outlandish.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: It was.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: It really was.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he pulled out all the stops.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the most quote-unquote shocking thing he did,
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: and no pun intended,
1:06:45
SPEAKER_02: on this go-round, it was that electric chair guy where he electrified Hitler.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_02: They carry that whole stage prop around just for that 30
1:06:58
SPEAKER_02: seconds of electrocuting Hitler.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's just crazy.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_02: But the stage show for KFD, that was so sad.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_02: And to see it in a small club on top of that, you know.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_01: Don't you wish that that was available somewhere like on DVD or something?
1:07:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_01: I'd love to own that.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a while.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and then he had like a strobe light running at the end of the show.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the place was like pitch dark and he had a strobe light.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_02: And for some reason,
1:07:33
SPEAKER_02: he like ripped open some feather pillows and started
1:07:39
SPEAKER_02: flinging it around and flinging
1:07:41
SPEAKER_02: the feathers all around, you know, which was like really wild looking.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, with the strobes, it was nuts.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he definitely, that was definitely their best visual show.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_01: And it was a great, just a great concert in general.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_01: It was a very good show.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_03: I still don't know that he beats Manson in his heyday.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying he beat anybody.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying for the record that it was at the time,
1:08:10
SPEAKER_02: that was a very,
1:08:14
SPEAKER_02: you know, between him and Manson, there was really nothing like it at that time.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_01: No, that's true.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there really wasn't.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that was it.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_03: And Guar.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_03: You got to throw Guar in there.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_03: But Guar is so bad musically that it doesn't matter.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_03: That's all about the show.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_02: But that KFD was, you know, as Blackie does, concept records.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:08:39
SPEAKER_02: so it was,
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: you got to wonder when he looks back at that era in his life,
1:08:47
SPEAKER_02: especially where he is in life now.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_02: If he regrets that.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sure Baptist Blackie does not like that he did that at all.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure that he hates that he did that stuff.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_03: Just like he hates that he did Fuck Like a Beast.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_03: He hates that people still want to talk
1:09:06
SPEAKER_01: about that song.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and they want to hear it still.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_01: One of their best songs.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_03: He wants to forget, you know, as successful as they were at the beginning...
1:09:19
SPEAKER_03: He wants to start his career at the Headless Children.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_03: That's where he wishes his career started, was Headless Children Up.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_03: Because he does not like any of that original stuff, you know, because it's all about fucking.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_03: Right, of course.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: And he doesn't want to sing about that anymore.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_03: He'd rather sing about, you know, whatever.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, Plague or whatever.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_03: He'd rather sing about real things than, you know, Ball Crusher or whatever.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, regardless, I still enjoyed the show a few weeks ago.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I enjoyed it a couple weeks ago.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: For me, it was good.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: It was really good.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_02: Got to give it to Blackie.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_02: I've enjoyed speaking with him and knowing him a little bit over the years.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, he's definitely a different animal.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you don't go into his interviews unprepared.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_02: Not at all.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_03: He will fucking hang up on you in a country second.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_03: He'll be like, oh, you don't know what you're talking about.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_03: Goodbye.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_02: Who's this guy wasting my time?
1:10:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_03: Why am I talking to this fucking turd?
1:10:37
SPEAKER_03: Click.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_02: Only he wouldn't say fucking turd anymore.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_03: No, he'd say freaking bowel movement.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_02: This unprepared individual.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_03: This so-called journalist.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_02: Too good.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_02: Don't waste my time, fella.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, pal.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, what would you like to talk about, Mr. Akin?
1:11:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, I want to do a quick show announcement before
1:11:12
SPEAKER_03: we get into anything too far.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_03: Just for people that are probably a little more hardcore,
1:11:20
SPEAKER_03: I did launch at long last the new CMS website this week.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_03: I didn't even know that.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_03: I texted it to you.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_03: You did?
1:11:30
SPEAKER_03: I did.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_02: I know I did.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was like I was in the middle of something
1:11:36
SPEAKER_03: and I wasn't paying
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: attention.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_01: But it's really clean.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_01: It looks good.
1:11:42
I'll pull it up.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_01: Let me pull it up real quick.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_01: It actually,
1:11:48
SPEAKER_01: when we're live on the show,
1:11:49
SPEAKER_01: it puts the live player and a quick connect to the chat right at the top.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_01: And then for the rest of the week, it just has me and you next to the most current show.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_01: It's really pretty, pretty sweet.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, AI.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_01: You're fucking something special.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_01: There's the news.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_03: This is how it looks right now.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_03: And then for the rest of the week, where the square is here, this will be me and you.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_03: And then over here will be that square.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_03: So that square will move over.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_01: But it's real simple.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_01: It's got the connections to Spotify and Apple Podcasts and countdown to
1:12:26
SPEAKER_01: the show each week and
1:12:28
SPEAKER_03: How you can get the cut and join the VIPs and blah,
1:12:32
SPEAKER_03: blah, blah.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_03: You know, all that kind of stuff.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_03: So just quick.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_03: I tried to make it as simple as I could because certain people in our fandom say
1:12:43
SPEAKER_03: that I make things too difficult.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_03: This is as easy as it gets.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_03: I can't be any easier than this.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_03: It's like a McDonald's menu.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_03: It really is.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_03: Believe me when I tell you, this is a McChicken Deluxe right here.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_03: It's super simple.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_03: But it is up if people want to,
1:13:06
SPEAKER_03: if people are looking for a central hub to watch the show,
1:13:09
SPEAKER_03: watch it live, connect to the chat.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_03: I know there's always this running question of where can I listen to the show?
1:13:19
SPEAKER_03: All of that is at theclassicmetalshow.com.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_03: Right here at the bottom is the player for the show.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_03: So when we're live, for the 24-7 rather, so when we're live, it's right here.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_03: People hear the music,
1:13:32
SPEAKER_03: and then when we're not live,
1:13:33
SPEAKER_03: they'll hear the best of shit for endless amounts of hours.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_03: So it's quick and easy, and I just wanted to share that, theclassicmetalshow.com.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_03: We can start promoting that again, Neely.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_03: And once we have the book together, we'll put that up here as well.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_03: In an equally easy way for certain people, Sal, to be able to find things.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_01: Where is Mr.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_01: Romance tonight?
1:14:02
SPEAKER_01: Is he out dating tonight?
1:14:03
SPEAKER_02: He could be.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: I think he's out.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: He might be out with his new squeeze.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_02: With his woman.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_02: Sal's found romance.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_03: Good for him.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_03: They can sit together and watch Fox News and cheer for the president.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah!
1:14:24
SPEAKER_03: I would watch you guys tonight,
1:14:25
SPEAKER_03: but me and the girl, we're going to watch Trump speak in Wisconsin.
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1:15:29
SPEAKER_03: What a relationship that must be.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_03: Holy smokes.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_03: Funny.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_03: All right, and then one other quick, just a quick note.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_03: Last week,
1:15:40
SPEAKER_03: and this will tell you,
1:15:42
SPEAKER_03: for you guys that are hardcore fans,
1:15:45
SPEAKER_03: this will tell you that I do read the chat, even if I don't comment on it a lot.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_03: So I don't remember who it was exactly, but last week, someone said...
1:15:59
SPEAKER_03: That they watched the new show,
1:16:03
SPEAKER_03: Crystal Lake,
1:16:04
SPEAKER_03: or I think that's what it's called,
1:16:05
SPEAKER_03: Crystal Lake, the prequel to the Friday the 13th movies.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_03: It's on Paramount Plus, or not Paramount Plus, Peacock.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_03: It's on Peacock,
1:16:17
SPEAKER_03: stars Linda Cardellini,
1:16:19
SPEAKER_03: who, you know, we've rambled about on this show a million times.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_03: But whoever said it, and again, I'm not
1:16:29
SPEAKER_01: trying to point the finger at anybody.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_02: Wasn't that a Jason Lundgren thing?
1:16:33
SPEAKER_02: I think it was, yeah.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_02: Then he got all angry at us and calling me out on YouTube or some shit.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, making videos about how much you suck dick or whatever.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_03: He told you, pal.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_02: I know, look at me.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_02: Cowering, cowering in my corner.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_03: That's why you quit radio, because of him.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, back to this Crystal Lake.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_03: Whoever it was that posted it last week said it was an atrocity.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_03: And at that point, I was only two episodes in.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_03: And I'm not going to lie, I was kind of with them at that point.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_03: I was like, I was only, I mean, you know how I watch TV.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_03: I usually will watch it from start to finish if it's all there.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_03: And it was all there and I only watched.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_03: First two episodes because it was kind of boring at first.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_03: But in hindsight,
1:17:31
SPEAKER_03: now that I've watched the whole thing,
1:17:34
SPEAKER_03: I will absolutely give this my stamp of approval.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_03: If you're a fan of Jason and,
1:17:42
SPEAKER_03: you know,
1:17:42
SPEAKER_03: Friday the 13th movies,
1:17:45
SPEAKER_03: this answers a lot of the questions that we always had about that,
1:17:51
SPEAKER_03: about the whole setup.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_03: Why was the mom so fucking nuts?
1:17:54
SPEAKER_03: Why was she dead?
1:17:56
SPEAKER_03: Why was Jason a killer?
1:17:58
SPEAKER_03: How come Jason could be shot and stabbed and everything else and keep living?
1:18:02
SPEAKER_03: It answers all those questions.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_03: So for me,
1:18:09
SPEAKER_03: just as a fan of those movies,
1:18:10
SPEAKER_03: I did want to give it a quick,
1:18:14
SPEAKER_03: I sort of now that I've watched it disagree with what was said in the chat room.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_03: That it was garbage because I really did quite enjoy it actually.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_03: And I saw that they're going to do a season two.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how they're going to do that,
1:18:28
SPEAKER_03: but you know, cause pretty much everybody in the thing died.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know how they're going to do season two.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_03: I guess Jason didn't die.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_03: So I guess there's,
1:18:37
SPEAKER_03: there's more to it,
1:18:38
SPEAKER_03: but I did like to at the end of it and spoiler alert people,
1:18:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying not to give too many spoilers, but I'm going to give this spoiler.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_03: They ended the show, like it's an eight episode arc or whatever.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_03: They ended the show with
1:18:59
SPEAKER_03: the first scene of the original Friday the 13th movie
1:19:04
SPEAKER_03: with them all sitting around the campfire and telling stories about how there was,
1:19:08
SPEAKER_03: you know, ghosts or killings at the park and all that shit.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_03: And I loved that throwback.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_03: I thought that was a pretty cool Cool little throwback to that.
1:19:18
SPEAKER_03: So pretty good.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_03: If you're a TV person,
1:19:22
SPEAKER_03: I know we're a little late for Halloween,
1:19:24
SPEAKER_03: but Crystal Lake will still be there tomorrow.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_03: And if you want to check it out, it's definitely worth it.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_03: It's definitely better than Jason Goes to the Moon or whatever that movie was.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_03: Jason X.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_03: But not bad.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_03: Pretty good if you're into that sort of a thing.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_02: Jason X, formerly Jason Twitter.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: Formerly Jason of Twitter.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_03: Comes out of your posts and kills you.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_03: So anyway,
1:19:52
SPEAKER_03: that's all I had on that was if you're looking for something to watch,
1:19:57
SPEAKER_03: as I always am looking for something to watch, that's a pretty good watch.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_03: Worth the time.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_01: Definitely worth it.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_01: Fair enough.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_01: So enough of that.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_01: Let's get into real stuff.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_01: And by real stuff,
1:20:13
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what to make of this.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_03: So the big news of the week,
1:20:17
SPEAKER_03: we'll start with the biggest story, I think is the biggest story of the week.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_03: That being the announcement of the new singer from Skid Row.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_01: What's his name?
1:20:26
SPEAKER_01: Justin Sargent?
1:20:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_01: Justin Sargent?
1:20:30
SPEAKER_01: Jason Sargent?
1:20:31
SPEAKER_01: Justin Sargent.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_03: That landed like a pile of mud on a sidewalk.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_03: Just clink.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_03: I hate to say it,
1:20:44
SPEAKER_03: but for everybody that wants me to say something nice about John Tora,
1:20:49
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to say something nice about John Tora.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_03: Quiet Riot did a lot better.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_02: Getting a guy who sounds like Quiet Riot.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_03: They did a lot better than Skid Row did on first glance.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_03: And we'll play the song that they recorded.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_03: This being said, I don't know that we still know anything from watching this video.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_03: I think the video was 100% done as a fuck you to Eric Gronwall.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you thought that or not.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_02: We won't get fooled again.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_02: Won't get fooled again.
1:21:25
SPEAKER_03: I thought that was 100% hey, Gronwall, go fuck yourself.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_03: And I'm sure a lot of people thought that as well because that's probably why they did that.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_03: Because why else would they do that song as the first taste of this guy?
1:21:41
SPEAKER_03: You know, as far as this guy goes, I guess he's a Broadway singer.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_02: So I've seen or heard.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_03: He looks like he could be in Skid Row.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_03: They don't have to put him on Slim Fast to get him ready for shows.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_03: You know, he looks the part.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_03: I just don't know that we got anything from this video.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_03: Did you watch it or no?
1:22:10
SPEAKER_02: I was very underwhelmed.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, it was like, okay.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_02: He just sounded like some guy.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I didn't hear anything that...
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying he can't sing.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_02: He can sing, but he doesn't...
1:22:26
SPEAKER_02: It was very underwhelming.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_02: It was just some guy who sang a song.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_01: And again, not bad.
1:22:33
SPEAKER_01: Not good.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_01: Looks the part.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_03: I...
1:22:41
SPEAKER_03: After such a long wait,
1:22:44
SPEAKER_03: I would have thought that they would come back with something
1:22:49
SPEAKER_03: that shows off his voice.
1:22:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_03: This is in the tone of Chris.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_03: I can sing in this register.
1:22:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying I'm better than this guy or anything,
1:23:01
SPEAKER_03: but I can sing at the register that he's singing.
1:23:05
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, he sounds like some guy singing a song.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_01: It's a JAG video.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_01: It's just another guy.
1:23:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, but let's give it a listen.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_01: We'll stop along the way and we'll talk about it.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_01: So here it is.
1:23:21
SPEAKER_01: It is Brand New Skid Row with Justin Sargent.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_01: Boss hip-bound single.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_01: Won't get fooled again.
1:23:29
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
1:23:33
Yeah.
1:23:34
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1:24:11
SPEAKER_03: Somebody on Locals rightly said,
1:24:14
SPEAKER_03: this looks like they shot it in the same room that Plush did their video.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_03: And I think they're right.
1:24:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, because they're all from like New York, New Jersey.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_03: They probably did do it in the same building.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_03: But it does look like the exact same thing as the animalistic video.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_00: We'll
1:24:32
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1:25:35
SPEAKER_02: Every other singer.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you'd think that, you know, like that line right there, he would do something.
1:25:42
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_02: Instead of, we won't get fooled again.
1:25:47
SPEAKER_03: And he does it a little later, but he doesn't really go for it.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_03: They really,
1:25:54
SPEAKER_03: and again,
1:25:56
SPEAKER_03: I'm not trying to tell Skid Row what to do or Quiet Riot or anybody,
1:26:00
SPEAKER_03: regardless of what the fucking dick fucks on the internet say.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_03: I don't really care what any of these guys do, really.
1:26:06
SPEAKER_03: I'd like Skid Row to get a good lineup together because I'd like to go see them again, honestly.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_03: But they really should have brought them out doing,
1:26:20
SPEAKER_03: doesn't even have to be like a Sebastian song,
1:26:24
SPEAKER_03: but they should have taken one of the,
1:26:25
SPEAKER_03: even the Gangs All Here or Time Bomb or one of those from the last record
1:26:30
SPEAKER_03: and had this guy re-record the vocals.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_03: So you could at least get a sense of him?
1:26:38
SPEAKER_03: Because the sense I'm getting of this guy is this guy is going to be gone in six months.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_03: And we'll be on the carousel again.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_03: We'll get the same press release here in another year saying, you know what?
1:26:49
SPEAKER_03: This guy really feels like the right fit for the band.
1:26:53
SPEAKER_03: Same as we got on the other day's press release.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_03: It's like, holy shit, how many times are you going to redo this press release?
1:27:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just change the name.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_01: Just change the name.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_01: Here's more of it.
1:27:04
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1:28:18
SPEAKER_01: right, so you can hear he can scream.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_01: He can hit high notes.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_01: But why would you debut this guy in a band that sings in high register with
1:28:30
SPEAKER_01: a low register song?
1:28:33
SPEAKER_01: What is the... Did this answer any question?
1:28:37
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not asking for me.
1:28:38
SPEAKER_03: I know my answer and I think I know your answer.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_03: But do you think out there,
1:28:43
SPEAKER_03: even hardcore Skid Row fans,
1:28:45
SPEAKER_03: like the people that live and die by this band,
1:28:48
SPEAKER_03: do you think this answered questions for them?
1:28:50
SPEAKER_03: Seriously?
1:28:52
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_01: Or does it make more questions?
1:28:55
SPEAKER_01: Like, how does he sound when he does the songs we want to hear?
1:29:00
SPEAKER_01: Not a fucking Who song that everybody covers.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_03: That's a whole other thing.
1:29:05
SPEAKER_03: Why this song?
1:29:06
SPEAKER_03: I guess because we won't get fooled again.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_03: But man, this is one of the most covered songs out there.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_03: Just dumb.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_03: If they wanted to be real wise asses, they would have covered one of Sebastian's songs.
1:29:20
SPEAKER_03: That would have been great.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_03: How great would that have been if they just came out?
1:29:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, they did cover a Sebastian with Tony Harnell.
1:29:29
SPEAKER_03: A Sebastian Bach song?
1:29:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_03: A solo Bach song?
1:29:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you mean
1:29:33
SPEAKER_02: a solo song.
1:29:34
SPEAKER_02: A solo Bach song.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, a solo Bach song.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_03: That would have been hilarious if they came out and said, yeah, here's our cover.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_03: It's fucking whatever.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_03: I can't even think of one of his songs, but.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, here's something off of Angel Down for you.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_03: That would be hilarious.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: That would be funny.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_03: That would get attention.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine how much that clown would be whining?
1:30:02
SPEAKER_01: See, they got to steal from me, mother truckers.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they can't come up with anything original of their own.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they got to play my songs.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty funny.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_03: That would have been great.
1:30:17
SPEAKER_03: But don't you think they should have come with, it's fine to do this song.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_03: If you want to send that message to Groundwater or whatever, that's fine.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_01: But also have another song or a snippet or something.
1:30:31
SPEAKER_03: Have 30 seconds of him doing Youth Gone Wild or whatever, I Remember You or something.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_03: You know, just something so that you're like, all right, this guy will fit.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's what they did with Tony Harnell.
1:30:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_03: Maybe they've just gone through all the other steps,
1:30:49
SPEAKER_03: so they're trying not to repeat themselves.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:30:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_03: Let's play a little more of this, but not much, because there's not much here.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_03: I move
1:31:04
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SPEAKER_02: I guess I'd have to hear,
1:33:52
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:33:53
SPEAKER_02: maybe see some YouTube videos or something like that once they start getting out on
1:33:58
SPEAKER_02: the road.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_03: What if the first show was over at that place near you?
1:34:04
SPEAKER_03: Would you go?
1:34:05
SPEAKER_02: Sure, why not?
1:34:06
SPEAKER_03: How much would you spend?
1:34:09
SPEAKER_02: $25.
1:34:11
SPEAKER_03: That's about where I'm thinking, too.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_03: I would go.
1:34:13
SPEAKER_03: I would definitely go.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_03: But I went to see it with Sollinger.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_03: I went to see it with Z.P.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_03: Tharp.
1:34:19
SPEAKER_03: Or Thart or whatever his name was.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he's dead.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_03: But I saw that once.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_03: You want to talk about a CMS name for the past.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_03: Me and Kurgan went and saw it with Sollinger a million years ago.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I would go.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_02: I saw him with Sollinger when they were on,
1:34:41
SPEAKER_02: I think it might have been one of those Rock Never Stops tours at the...
1:34:49
SPEAKER_02: Where was it that I saw him?
1:34:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it was I talked to Johnny.
1:34:57
SPEAKER_02: So I'm thinking it might have been something that they did at Nautica Stage.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_02: Something like that.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_02: I think Rock Never Stops came to Nautica Stage and I came into town for that or something.
1:35:11
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:35:12
SPEAKER_01: What, Dokken was on it or something?
1:35:15
SPEAKER_02: No,
1:35:15
SPEAKER_02: I just think that I think it might have been Tesla and Skid Row and I can't remember
1:35:22
SPEAKER_02: who else, but I just remember talking to Johnny.
1:35:26
SPEAKER_02: Might have even been Quiet Riot might have been on it too.
1:35:30
SPEAKER_02: Something like that.
1:35:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't recall, but it was years ago.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_01: Right on.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would go see it.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the guy sounds like he can sing, but the verdict is
1:35:43
SPEAKER_03: the only thing that we know.
1:35:44
SPEAKER_03: Mediocre.
1:35:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the only thing that we know that we didn't know last week is the name of this guy.
1:35:51
SPEAKER_03: Because I don't think anybody knows anything about this guy either.
1:35:54
SPEAKER_03: We heard he's from Broadway or something.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_03: I guess that's some sort of a sign that he can sing.
1:36:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, but I don't know.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you and I are denying that he has the capability of singing.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_02: But this example is just underwhelming, that's all.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:36:18
SPEAKER_03: It's just amazing to me that two bands in a month can announce singers
1:36:24
SPEAKER_01: and both
1:36:25
SPEAKER_01: of them fall, I don't want to say flat, but not 100% right.
1:36:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:36:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean,
1:36:38
SPEAKER_01: and again,
1:36:38
SPEAKER_01: not trying to slam Tora, not even trying to slam this guy, the sergeant guy.
1:36:44
SPEAKER_03: But our first taste of this guy, very average.
1:36:49
SPEAKER_01: First taste of Tora, it's grimacing and Kelvin Dubrow.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, and that's not even necessarily a negative.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_01: I will give Tora some credit.
1:37:02
SPEAKER_03: I've seen some recent videos,
1:37:03
SPEAKER_03: does look like they got him on the Slim Fast and he's Chunking off some weight
1:37:08
SPEAKER_03: and he looks a little better.
1:37:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:37:11
SPEAKER_03: Looks a little better.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_03: He's not wearing the stripes as much.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_03: He's wearing like Motorhead t-shirts and stuff, which is definitely an upgrade.
1:37:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of that,
1:37:21
SPEAKER_02: since we're talking about him,
1:37:23
SPEAKER_02: Demon sent over a little video of them playing at the whiskey.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_02: And he tries to do this little jump.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_02: It's just a real quick clip there, but it's just kind
1:37:40
SPEAKER_01: of funny.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_02: I had to look at it.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_02: I looked at it and I laughed because it was just the way she put
1:37:49
SPEAKER_02: in there was just kind of funny.
1:37:50
SPEAKER_02: It made me laugh when I read her little email.
1:37:55
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_02: He attempts a split jump.
1:38:01
SPEAKER_03: That's not nice.
1:38:05
SPEAKER_03: That's not nice at all, what the title of this is.
1:38:12
SPEAKER_03: Is it play it right where it was?
1:38:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: I stopped it.
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: I stopped it right just before he does it.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_01: All right, let's see.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_01: Let's get you full screened here.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
1:38:25
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1:38:43
SPEAKER_03: It's like me jumping.
1:38:47
SPEAKER_03: It's like trying to jump over a cockroach or something.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_03: He's got a two-inch vertical.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_03: Good for him.
1:38:58
SPEAKER_03: Good for him.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_03: Good for Quiet Riot.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_02: They got him all decked out in the leathers and the chains and the vest and all
1:39:06
SPEAKER_02: that other stuff.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_03: Well, you knew that was going to come.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_03: You knew they weren't going to accept him looking like a Like what he was,
1:39:12
SPEAKER_03: a kid that came out of his bedroom into a quiet ride.
1:39:16
SPEAKER_02: And to go get him some cool rock clothes.
1:39:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_03: Again, as we said a hundred times,
1:39:22
SPEAKER_03: we don't know this kid and we ain't got nothing against this kid.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_02: You know, the world thinks we do.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_02: But that's the whole thing.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_02: These old school bands, they still dress to go on stage.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, they don't show up like they just got off their shift at the gas station.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_02: They come out to look like performing rock stars.
1:39:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they don't look like fucking Candlebox or whatever.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean,
1:39:51
SPEAKER_02: even in the Skid Row video that we just watched,
1:39:54
SPEAKER_02: all those guys still look lean and mean and,
1:39:58
SPEAKER_02: you know, dressed like, you know, hardcore rocker guys.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, much good on them because they need to.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_03: If they're going to be as flat as that performance was, they need to look the part.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_03: That's for damn sure.
1:40:12
SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
1:40:14
SPEAKER_03: Well, anyway, Justin Sargent is your new singer.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_03: They announced a bunch of gigs.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_03: So I guess they are going to definitely take it to the road.
1:40:24
SPEAKER_03: Coming to a casino near you very shortly.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:40:28
SPEAKER_03: I saw they're on, I think, Sonic Temple or something.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_01: They're going to be at that.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:34
SPEAKER_01: Good on them.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_01: I would definitely go see it.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_01: Let's get those free tickets on VetTix.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm there.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_01: That way I don't have to.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_01: One way or the other.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's one I think I could call on.
1:40:44
SPEAKER_03: How many times have I interviewed Skid Row in the last three years?
1:40:48
SPEAKER_03: Five?
1:40:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you have.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_01: I've interviewed him a bunch of times.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_01: I just interviewed Rachel, what, six months ago or whatever when that solo record came out.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I could make the call for that one.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_01: I hope.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_03: But until then, I'm just going to watch Quiet Riot bring back hair metal.
1:41:09
SPEAKER_03: As I keep reading online how he is single-handedly restoring hair metal.
1:41:14
SPEAKER_02: Is he?
1:41:17
SPEAKER_02: We're the two guys that are single-handedly ruining the Brotherhood of Metal.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_03: I guess we proved it on that one.
1:41:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we did.
1:41:27
SPEAKER_03: We didn't ask Kiss John Tora, and therefore we proved our own bumper.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's funny.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_01: That's really funny.
1:41:37
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:41:39
SPEAKER_01: Let's move forward, shall we?
1:41:43
SPEAKER_01: This is probably going to be short.
1:41:48
SPEAKER_01: I come across some weird shit on the Internet.
1:41:53
SPEAKER_01: And I came across this one.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how.
1:41:58
SPEAKER_01: It was not sent to me.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_01: It just sort of popped up in my algorithm.
1:42:03
SPEAKER_01: This is bizarre.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_03: Have you heard of The Grind Mother?
1:42:11
SPEAKER_02: The Grind Mother?
1:42:13
SPEAKER_02: Yes, The Grind Mother.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what that is.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_02: Is that a music group?
1:42:17
SPEAKER_02: Is that a thing?
1:42:18
SPEAKER_02: Is that a...
1:42:19
SPEAKER_01: It's a person.
1:42:21
SPEAKER_02: It's a person?
1:42:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:42:24
SPEAKER_01: She is a grandmother and a mother.
1:42:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_01: Who sings grindcore.
1:42:33
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:42:33
SPEAKER_02: She looks like Stephen King.
1:42:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she does.
1:42:38
SPEAKER_03: But she's the grind mother.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:42:41
SPEAKER_02: Instead of grandmother, she's the grind mother.
1:42:43
SPEAKER_03: She's the grind mother.
1:42:45
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:42:46
SPEAKER_03: So let's play some grind mother videos here of her just doing some grind core.
1:42:51
SPEAKER_02: She's grinding it out.
1:42:52
SPEAKER_02: She's unbelievable.
1:42:54
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:42:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm 67 years old and I'm the lead singer of a grind core band.
1:43:00
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1:43:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm 67... She only does these in Reels, so I gotta play it.
1:43:10
SPEAKER_03: I'm 67 years old.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_00: The band is called Grind Mother,
1:43:16
SPEAKER_00: and we started as a result of my son,
1:43:19
SPEAKER_00: Rain, asking if I wanted to go up to his studio and scream into the microphone.
1:43:25
SPEAKER_00: You want me to just do one?
1:43:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:43:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:43:34
SPEAKER_02: That's probably how she yelled at him when he was a kid.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
1:43:40
SPEAKER_03: What the hell?
1:43:41
SPEAKER_03: The Grind Mother.
1:43:42
SPEAKER_03: What's crazy is this is from 2015.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_03: This shit has been going on for 11 years.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_03: The Grind Mother.
1:43:51
SPEAKER_01: All
1:43:51
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1:44:01
SPEAKER_03: right.
1:44:02
SPEAKER_03: What would you think if this was your grandma?
1:44:06
SPEAKER_02: So they ended their thing?
1:44:10
SPEAKER_02: There are no more?
1:44:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:44:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I see what it says here,
1:44:14
SPEAKER_03: but I don't know if that just means, I don't know what that means.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:44:19
SPEAKER_02: Their farewell show in Montreal in 2025?
1:44:23
SPEAKER_01: They must have got back together.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_01: Why am I still getting videos from the Grind Mother?
1:44:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_03: They have merch, Neely, if you want some Grind Mother merch.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_02: It is kind of cool though.
1:44:37
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_03: The grind mother.
1:44:39
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1:44:50
SPEAKER_00: I can't look at it as good protest music because you can get angry about things
1:44:53
SPEAKER_00: and excited about stuff,
1:44:55
SPEAKER_00: but it had to listen and break down the music and it's fast and really quite unique
1:44:59
SPEAKER_00: and quite beautiful.
1:45:00
SPEAKER_02: Quite beautiful.
1:45:02
SPEAKER_03: Grindcore.
1:45:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, you can tell she's Canadian, eh?
1:45:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:45:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's got that Canadian accent.
1:45:10
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, that's all I want to show you on that, the grind mother.
1:45:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's pretty funny.
1:45:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, she's kind of manly.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she does have a Stephen King thing going on.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_01: Just how funny is that?
1:45:25
SPEAKER_01: This woman's probably 70 years old doing grindcore music.
1:45:29
SPEAKER_02: She said she's 67.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, doing grindcore.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:45:36
SPEAKER_01: Really funny.
1:45:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, what's funny is that she doesn't have a stage presence about her.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:45:45
SPEAKER_02: She doesn't have like stage clothes or anything.
1:45:47
SPEAKER_02: She just looks like she put on a set of headset and just, you know, left her kitchen.
1:45:55
SPEAKER_01: When you have that kind of talent, Neely, you really don't have to dress the part.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:46:01
SPEAKER_01: She's a stunner.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty funny.
1:46:05
SPEAKER_03: The grind mother.
1:46:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, you gotta admit, that's pretty original.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I will say that.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_01: That is true.
1:46:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking to see if I got anything else short here.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_01: This is just a real quick, I'm just curious what you think.
1:46:28
SPEAKER_01: John Bush announced...
1:46:30
SPEAKER_03: European anthrax shows or the music
1:46:33
SPEAKER_01: of anthrax with John Bush.
1:46:34
SPEAKER_02: Of course, I saw that a year ago.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, people are excited about it.
1:46:41
SPEAKER_02: As they should.
1:46:41
SPEAKER_02: It was an excellent show.
1:46:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I took a lot of video that we posted on our locals.
1:46:47
SPEAKER_02: And I know you were actually kind of envious.
1:46:51
SPEAKER_03: I was.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_03: I wish I would have come here.
1:46:53
SPEAKER_03: I know.
1:46:54
SPEAKER_02: It was good.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_03: The question always comes up when they do this.
1:47:00
SPEAKER_03: Can they put something back together?
1:47:01
SPEAKER_03: Should they put something back together?
1:47:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
1:47:05
SPEAKER_02: I think that Anthrax in their current form, they seem as if they've
1:47:14
SPEAKER_02: get along.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they do.
1:47:17
SPEAKER_02: And it works.
1:47:17
SPEAKER_02: And obviously they've released new music with the Joey Belladonna lineup over the last 15 years.
1:47:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:47:27
SPEAKER_02: You know, so...
1:47:29
SPEAKER_02: I guess if you aren't having issues within the band and it's working,
1:47:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you would go tear it apart just to...
1:47:41
SPEAKER_01: See, this leads to my question, though.
1:47:43
SPEAKER_01: Do they have to tear it apart?
1:47:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying record a new record and
1:47:47
SPEAKER_03: bring John Bush back in the band.
1:47:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying doing just what John Bush is doing right now.
1:47:54
SPEAKER_03: Go and play six weeks around the country once.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_03: With John Bush.
1:48:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that might cause some friction though.
1:48:05
SPEAKER_01: You think?
1:48:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:48:07
SPEAKER_01: Think Joey's still butthurt about that kind of shit?
1:48:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know that it'd be so much that it's butthurt.
1:48:12
SPEAKER_02: It's just like,
1:48:14
SPEAKER_02: why is my band,
1:48:16
SPEAKER_02: and I'm not saying that Anthrax is Joey's band,
1:48:20
SPEAKER_02: why are my bandmates going out as Anthrax without me?
1:48:24
SPEAKER_03: Well, the answer is because they had a different era of the band.
1:48:28
SPEAKER_03: That was successful.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_03: This is not like Iron Maiden if they were to go back with a Blaze Bailey,
1:48:39
SPEAKER_03: you know, which obviously that's not going to happen, but it's not similar to that.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they had significant success with John Bush.
1:48:52
SPEAKER_02: And I agree with that.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_02: I enjoyed the John Bush era.
1:48:56
SPEAKER_02: More than the Belladonna era.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_02: And I think there's a lot of
1:48:59
SPEAKER_03: people that way.
1:49:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_03: Which is why I,
1:49:04
SPEAKER_03: and again,
1:49:04
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying that they throw Joey out on any means,
1:49:08
SPEAKER_03: but I will say this, Curse Imperficio has not really done well.
1:49:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it came out hot and when's the last time anybody's talked about it?
1:49:20
SPEAKER_02: Last time you heard about it, a month ago.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think it's the same way as the Megadeth release.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that was a shit release.
1:49:29
SPEAKER_02: And I agree, but the thing is, it's still a release from a band of that era.
1:49:35
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_02: And supposedly their final release.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_02: But just kind of was here today and gone later today.
1:49:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it landed with a thud too.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_03: Came in, nobody liked it very much, and it's gone.
1:49:54
SPEAKER_03: Same with the Anthrax.
1:49:56
SPEAKER_03: I do like the one song,
1:49:57
SPEAKER_03: but overall as a record,
1:50:00
SPEAKER_03: I've listened to it 10, 11 times, and it's just like, it's all right.
1:50:07
SPEAKER_03: I think it's better than some people are saying.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_03: Some people are saying, it's the worst thing they ever did.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't agree with that, but it's probably near the bottom.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're a remarkably consistent band, to be honest.
1:50:19
SPEAKER_03: When you really look at Anthrax's career, they are pretty consistent, consistently strong.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_03: There's not really a whole lot of weak ones in there.
1:50:30
SPEAKER_03: Do you think?
1:50:31
SPEAKER_03: Not really.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean,
1:50:35
SPEAKER_03: I know a lot of people don't like Volume 8, but I thought that was pretty good.
1:50:42
SPEAKER_03: What are the other weak ones that people talk about?
1:50:46
SPEAKER_03: Euphoria, maybe?
1:50:47
SPEAKER_03: I know a lot of people love that.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_03: I just didn't.
1:50:51
SPEAKER_03: But I would like to see, I would love to see, even if it was just a few shows.
1:50:57
SPEAKER_03: Because I think it's even more weird when John Bush, like at the show you were at.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_03: I think it's weird that Charlie Benanti's sitting out in the audience.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_02: Right next to me, actually.
1:51:07
SPEAKER_03: That's what I mean.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_03: I mean, wouldn't it make more sense that, hey, look who showed up.
1:51:14
SPEAKER_03: Have him sit in on drums and play Room for One More Only or something.
1:51:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, just the one song even, you know.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_03: But it seems like they're all kind of into it.
1:51:28
SPEAKER_03: I would like to see it happen.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think, didn't Scott Ian ask if he could come out and play with them?
1:51:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_03: That's what I mean.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_03: They seem like they're sort of interested in doing it.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_03: And it would really, like you said, the only stop point on this has to be Joey.
1:51:49
SPEAKER_03: I don't think Frank Bellow is going to give a shit.
1:51:51
SPEAKER_03: And I know John Denae isn't going to care.
1:51:54
SPEAKER_03: He'll play.
1:51:55
SPEAKER_03: You can bring in another singer.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_03: He'll play.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_03: You don't care.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_03: He's thrilled to be in Anthrax.
1:52:00
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, it would come down to Joey.
1:52:06
SPEAKER_03: And is Joey a big enough guy at this point to say, you know what, that's fine.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to go out there and do a Belladonna tour, goddammit.
1:52:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, that too.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_02: But then...
1:52:16
SPEAKER_02: It comes to question is,
1:52:18
SPEAKER_02: well, if this gets a big reception,
1:52:24
SPEAKER_02: do my bandmates go, well, you know what?
1:52:27
SPEAKER_02: Things have been working out pretty good with Bush.
1:52:31
SPEAKER_02: We're kind of going to go that direction for a while.
1:52:34
SPEAKER_01: I just don't see that going that way.
1:52:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying you see it happening or it would happen,
1:52:39
SPEAKER_02: but what I'm trying to say is you're opening up the door.
1:52:42
SPEAKER_02: To unforeseen circumstances.
1:52:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that could be.
1:52:47
SPEAKER_03: And maybe Bush is the one saying no to it.
1:52:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's because we're not.
1:52:51
SPEAKER_03: He's doing his armored saint thing.
1:52:53
SPEAKER_03: And he seems happy with armored saint.
1:52:57
SPEAKER_03: You know, so maybe maybe it is Bush.
1:52:59
SPEAKER_03: Maybe these guys have all said, hey, let's do something to Bush that no.
1:53:02
SPEAKER_00: Classicmetalshow.locals.com Could be.
1:53:30
SPEAKER_02: Because obviously, you know, Armored Saint is booked up with Metal Church.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_02: And they've been able to tour fairly consistently over the last few years.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the last three,
1:53:44
SPEAKER_02: four times I saw Armored Saint,
1:53:46
SPEAKER_02: they were either matched up with Metal Church or Wasp.
1:53:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's good shows.
1:53:54
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if maybe it is Bush and not the other.
1:53:56
SPEAKER_01: Because like I said, the other guys seem like they're into it.
1:54:00
SPEAKER_03: You know, like we said, Charlie was standing right next to you.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_02: And he was rocking along with it.
1:54:06
SPEAKER_03: That's what I mean.
1:54:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, he was just really getting into it, you know.
1:54:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:54:10
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, like you said, Ian is out there saying he'd like to jam with them on stage.
1:54:16
SPEAKER_02: Because they certainly don't get to play those songs.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:54:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they did for a while play only.
1:54:23
SPEAKER_01: But it's just the one song.
1:54:25
SPEAKER_01: It's the only song that Joey will sing.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_01: And no offense to Joey, but I don't want to hear Joey sing that song.
1:54:32
SPEAKER_01: And not even because he's bad at doing it.
1:54:33
SPEAKER_03: I've seen it live and it's not bad, but it's not his song.
1:54:39
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like when Sammy Hagar was out there trying to sing Running With
1:54:42
SPEAKER_03: The Devil or whatever.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_03: It's like, fuck, that's terrible.
1:54:46
SPEAKER_03: Even I'll say that as a Sammy guy.
1:54:47
SPEAKER_03: I'll say that when Sammy was doing the Dave songs, that was no good either.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_03: That wasn't good.
1:54:54
SPEAKER_03: Does anybody want to hear Sammy Hagar singing Jamie's Crying?
1:54:57
SPEAKER_03: I don't.
1:54:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm singing Moss Tequila.
1:55:03
SPEAKER_01: That's what I want.
1:55:04
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:55:06
SPEAKER_02: I think that Anthrax should team up with Dan Nelson and do a tour, too.
1:55:11
SPEAKER_03: That's the tour we're waiting on.
1:55:14
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
1:55:16
SPEAKER_03: Still waiting after, what, 16 years or whatever.
1:55:18
SPEAKER_03: It still hasn't happened.
1:55:20
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_03: Sons of bitches.
1:55:22
SPEAKER_03: But I'm holding out hope.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:55:25
SPEAKER_03: Boy, that guy, he...
1:55:29
SPEAKER_03: Is there ever been a guy that gets a more high profile gig
1:55:33
SPEAKER_03: that could do absolutely nothing with it?
1:55:37
SPEAKER_03: I know he never performed it.
1:55:39
SPEAKER_03: I know it was controversial, but wouldn't you think that he would be able to do something?
1:55:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:55:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah.
1:55:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at, um, look at Mitch Malloy.
1:55:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:55:52
SPEAKER_02: He didn't get the, he didn't get the Van Halen gig, but he sure capitalized.
1:55:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:55:57
SPEAKER_02: He's still out there.
1:56:00
SPEAKER_03: He gets an Eddie Van Halen painted guitar on a guitar player and he's out there.
1:56:04
SPEAKER_03: There, let me sing some Van Halen songs that I never sang other than in rehearsal once.
1:56:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, Mitch Malloy is like the all-timer for that.
1:56:13
SPEAKER_03: But, you know, I mean, all these guys, you would think they could do something.
1:56:20
SPEAKER_03: You know,
1:56:21
SPEAKER_03: Dan Nelson,
1:56:23
SPEAKER_03: I know we didn't really hear him,
1:56:25
SPEAKER_03: but I would think that there'd be I know myself,
1:56:31
SPEAKER_03: and maybe it's just me,
1:56:33
SPEAKER_03: if there was a Dan Nelson album,
1:56:37
SPEAKER_03: just knowing that he was in Anthrax for a minute and he was supposed to be the guy,
1:56:42
SPEAKER_03: I would at least give the album a listen.
1:56:46
SPEAKER_03: Like if I got the Dan Nelson project or something, I would at least listen to it.
1:56:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it would have to be good or else I wouldn't listen to it twice, but.
1:56:55
SPEAKER_03: But I would listen to it.
1:56:56
SPEAKER_03: Would you listen to it once?
1:56:58
SPEAKER_03: Just out of curiosity?
1:56:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
1:57:01
SPEAKER_01: That's what I think, too.
1:57:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't know.
1:57:08
SPEAKER_03: You know.
1:57:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, well.
1:57:10
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's what's going on with the anthrax.
1:57:12
SPEAKER_03: Nothing.
1:57:13
SPEAKER_02: You realize that that whole Dan Nelson thing fell apart 17 years ago?
1:57:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was going to say, it's been a while.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 2009.
1:57:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_01: And Anthrax has put out remarkably little music in that time.
1:57:28
SPEAKER_02: Put out worship music.
1:57:30
SPEAKER_01: They put out that for all kings and now this one.
1:57:33
SPEAKER_02: Not little music, worship music.
1:57:34
SPEAKER_02: Worship music, yeah.
1:57:38
SPEAKER_01: Should be worship Joey because he saved them.
1:57:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:57:43
SPEAKER_01: What do you think would have happened if Joey said no?
1:57:45
SPEAKER_03: You think that would have been the end of Anthrax?
1:57:48
SPEAKER_02: No, I think they would have fell into the category of Skid Row.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_03: Think Justin Sargent could have been the guy?
1:57:56
SPEAKER_02: Just, you know, trying out new guys.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_03: Could have been.
1:58:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure they could have found an anthrax tribute guy to fill the slot.
1:58:07
SPEAKER_03: Maybe it would have been John Toro when he was 10.
1:58:09
SPEAKER_03: Could have been.
1:58:10
SPEAKER_03: Could have been him.
1:58:11
SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
1:58:16
SPEAKER_03: Since he's out there saving metal, he could have saved it starting with anthrax.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, fortunately, Joey came back.
1:58:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, thank God.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_02: Speaking of that, and I'm sure we'll just wrap this segment up.
1:58:29
SPEAKER_02: Remember we had Joey Belladonna lined up to be due on the show
1:58:35
SPEAKER_02: because we were celebrating Joey Belladonna Day?
1:58:40
SPEAKER_01: Joey Belladonna Day?
1:58:41
SPEAKER_02: Remember, it was under the premise that we were celebrating Joey Belladonna Day on the show.
1:58:47
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember that.
1:58:48
SPEAKER_03: You don't?
1:58:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying it didn't happen.
1:58:53
SPEAKER_03: You know, even the memory, I don't know.
1:58:55
SPEAKER_03: Did he come on?
1:58:56
SPEAKER_02: He did, but he missed the show when he was supposed to call in,
1:59:02
SPEAKER_02: and then he came on the following week,
1:59:05
SPEAKER_02: and he was all apologetic because I don't know what it was you did with,
1:59:11
SPEAKER_02: like, the publicist or something, but you told her that it was Joey Belladonna down.
1:59:16
SPEAKER_02: He was...
1:59:19
SPEAKER_02: And so when he came on,
1:59:21
SPEAKER_02: he was all apologetic and was just for missing the show
1:59:26
SPEAKER_02: and didn't realize we were doing Joey Belladonna Day.
1:59:31
SPEAKER_03: Meanwhile,
1:59:33
SPEAKER_03: we were probably just making up anything to try and get somebody of name on
1:59:36
SPEAKER_03: the damn show.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_03: Well, we were goofing.
1:59:39
SPEAKER_02: And then when you and I were pretty much in
1:59:48
SPEAKER_02: Constant contact with Jack Frost.
1:59:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do remember that.
1:59:52
SPEAKER_02: And we basically told Jack that he needed to team up with Joey.
1:59:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_02: I think, no,
1:59:59
SPEAKER_02: we were talking to Joey and said,
2:00:01
SPEAKER_02: because he was saying about needing a guitarist or something.
2:00:05
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what, and we recommended Jack.
2:00:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I said, well,
2:00:09
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:00:09
SPEAKER_02: Jack is in the area,
2:00:11
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:00:12
SPEAKER_02: here's his name and number, blah, blah, blah,
2:00:15
SPEAKER_02: and Sure enough,
2:00:17
SPEAKER_02: like during a live show,
2:00:19
SPEAKER_02: we were doing a live show and the studio phone rang and it was Joey
2:00:22
SPEAKER_02: and Jack thanking us for hooking them up.
2:00:26
SPEAKER_03: It's because they were working together.
2:00:28
SPEAKER_03: And that project went exactly nowhere, but it was still funny that
2:00:31
SPEAKER_02: they called in.
2:00:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they called in.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_02: Hey, just wanted to let you know, hey, it's Joey Belladonna and Jack Frost.
2:00:37
SPEAKER_02: Just wanted to let you know we're working together.
2:00:39
SPEAKER_03: And if I remember right, they were both kind of tanked up.
2:00:43
SPEAKER_03: They're both a little
2:00:44
SPEAKER_02: bit drunk.
2:00:45
SPEAKER_02: You'd have to be to call our show.
2:00:47
SPEAKER_02: No shit.
2:00:49
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that was just kind of funny.
2:00:52
SPEAKER_03: I know there's a new,
2:00:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't know when or how, but there's a new Seven Witches release getting ready.
2:01:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it's a compilation type thing.
2:01:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:01:04
SPEAKER_02: It's a re-release of the Seven Witches catalog
2:01:07
SPEAKER_01: is what it is.
2:01:10
SPEAKER_01: We'd need to get him on.
2:01:12
SPEAKER_01: I'd like to talk to him about playing with Aldo Nova.
2:01:14
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
2:01:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm interested in that.
2:01:18
SPEAKER_01: I don't see him as an Aldo Nova guy, but that's fine.
2:01:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Jack is like a chameleon.
2:01:23
SPEAKER_02: He'll play with anybody.
2:01:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because he just likes to play.
2:01:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'd like to have Jack back.
2:01:31
SPEAKER_03: I love Jack.
2:01:33
SPEAKER_03: I still think he dosed me at the Melodic Rock Fest.
2:01:38
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
2:01:39
SPEAKER_03: I've never felt that stoned in my life just from eating a piece of pizza.
2:01:44
SPEAKER_03: I took nothing.
2:01:45
SPEAKER_03: I took nothing.
2:01:47
SPEAKER_03: And Jack's like, here, man, got your piece of pizza.
2:01:49
SPEAKER_03: I was like, all right, thanks, bro.
2:01:52
SPEAKER_03: I ate the pizza.
2:01:54
SPEAKER_03: 30 minutes later, I'm walking around like, hey, this is fucking great.
2:01:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:01:59
SPEAKER_03: I totally think he dosed me.
2:02:02
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he ever denied it either, did he?
2:02:04
SPEAKER_03: I think we asked him and he didn't exactly deny it.
2:02:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:02:08
SPEAKER_03: He just said, it was good, right?
2:02:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was good.
2:02:14
SPEAKER_02: Kind of made me a little wobbly, but.
2:02:16
SPEAKER_02: It did.
2:02:18
SPEAKER_02: It was good.
2:02:20
SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
2:02:20
SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
2:02:22
SPEAKER_03: If he dosed me, that's fine.
2:02:23
SPEAKER_03: That's payback for the Dan Lorenzo nonsense with him, I guess.
2:02:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:02:32
SPEAKER_03: How could you guys put that out there?
2:02:34
SPEAKER_03: You put that out there.
2:02:36
SPEAKER_03: You mean the interview that you did?
2:02:39
SPEAKER_03: You did that on a live show.
2:02:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_03: How could we put
2:02:43
SPEAKER_03: it out there?
2:02:44
SPEAKER_02: You said it.
2:02:45
SPEAKER_02: You came right out the gate.
2:02:47
SPEAKER_02: That was the first thing you said out of your mouth when we introduced you.
2:02:51
SPEAKER_02: The first thing I want to say is Dan Lorenzo is a fucking asshole.
2:02:55
SPEAKER_02: Douchebag.
2:02:56
SPEAKER_02: Douchebag, that's right.
2:02:57
SPEAKER_03: Remember it was douchebag because that was the headline on Blabbermouth.
2:03:01
SPEAKER_03: Jack Frost, Dan Lorenzo is a douchebag.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_02: And we were just like, what's that all about?
2:03:08
SPEAKER_03: And then we read it and we're
2:03:09
SPEAKER_02: like, oh, that's
2:03:09
SPEAKER_03: us.
2:03:12
SPEAKER_02: But when he came on and he said that right out the gate,
2:03:15
SPEAKER_02: we were just like, what is that all about?
2:03:17
SPEAKER_02: We had no idea.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_02: This guy criticizes every goddamn thing that I do.
2:03:22
SPEAKER_02: I just want people to know and I want to put it out there.
2:03:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's out there.
2:03:27
SPEAKER_03: No, it's out there.
2:03:29
SPEAKER_03: And then four days later, dudes, you guys are sandbagging me.
2:03:33
SPEAKER_03: What the fuck?
2:03:34
SPEAKER_03: Why did you put that out there?
2:03:36
SPEAKER_03: Why would you do that?
2:03:36
SPEAKER_03: You put that out there.
2:03:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you said it.
2:03:38
SPEAKER_03: It's not like I said, is Dan Lorenzo a douchebag and you acknowledged it.
2:03:44
SPEAKER_03: You said it.
2:03:46
SPEAKER_03: All we said was, hey, Jack, how you doing?
2:03:49
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
2:03:52
SPEAKER_03: Good times.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_03: That's the old show.
2:03:54
SPEAKER_03: I know.
2:03:55
SPEAKER_03: Old school.
2:03:57
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
2:03:57
SPEAKER_03: Back when we were happening.
2:04:01
SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
2:04:02
SPEAKER_02: That is funny.
2:04:04
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:04:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, I say we take a break.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:04:08
SPEAKER_02: Get back into some of this spooky music that everybody's requesting.
2:04:13
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's into their Halloween bullshit.
2:04:18
SPEAKER_02: Their Halloween-y music.
2:04:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_02: This next request is going to make Shelley Rocks very happy.
2:04:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:04:28
SPEAKER_02: This song is requested by a CMS listener by the name of Joe's Lost Marbles.
2:04:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:04:39
SPEAKER_02: And he would like to hear Ghost, Stand By Him.
2:04:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, good.
2:04:45
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:04:45
SPEAKER_02: So here's Ghost exclusively here.
2:04:49
SPEAKER_02: On your classic metal show.
2:04:50
[music]
2:05:03
SPEAKER_03: Hey everyone, I'm Scarlet from Scarlet Riot and you're watching CMS TV.
2:05:10
[music]
2:05:18
SPEAKER_02: From the Carnival of Souls release, that is Kiss with Rain.
2:05:23
SPEAKER_02: That one going off by request to Johnny Castle.
2:05:26
SPEAKER_02: Just before that, we heard Thin Lizzy with The Rocker for Jackal.
2:05:30
SPEAKER_02: UFO in there with Diesel in the Dust for Roger.
2:05:34
SPEAKER_02: Vinny Vincent Invasion with Love Kills for George from Sydney.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_02: Twisted Sister with Burnin' Hell for the Hardy Boy.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_02: And Kicking Off That Block, Lynch Mob with Hellchild for My Nephew James.
2:05:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was good.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_01: I could have done without the Thin Lizzy for 20 minutes or however long
2:05:53
SPEAKER_01: that song was, but whatever.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
2:05:56
SPEAKER_01: I'll take the time.
2:05:57
SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:06:00
SPEAKER_02: So that leaves us with a flat 90 minutes to get done whatever it is we got to get done here.
2:06:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, we got things.
2:06:07
SPEAKER_01: We got some things.
2:06:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:06:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think we'll call this segment It's Time to Go.
2:06:17
SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell you why it's time to go.
2:06:20
SPEAKER_01: Because everybody's fucking done.
2:06:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:06:24
SPEAKER_01: Let's start with the one that hit us, me and you, the most.
2:06:28
SPEAKER_01: Out of the blue, Triumph canceled their tour.
2:06:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, due to unforeseen medical problems.
2:06:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, blue dot flu.
2:06:39
SPEAKER_01: That's why this is canceled, right?
2:06:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:06:43
SPEAKER_01: Tickets were thin.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know about that because I didn't do any research into that,
2:06:49
SPEAKER_02: but I know Rick Emmett was complaining that he lost all his hair due to the stress
2:06:57
SPEAKER_02: that he went.
2:06:58
SPEAKER_02: Did you see that?
2:06:59
SPEAKER_01: I did see that, that he was wearing hats now and he was alopecia or something.
2:07:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
2:07:03
SPEAKER_02: he said due to all the stress and the rigors of putting on an arena-style show after
2:07:13
SPEAKER_02: so many years and The pressures of it all, he said that he suffered hair losses.
2:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Hair just started falling out.
2:07:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm just, look, I'm not saying that that's not true.
2:07:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm sure it is.
2:07:29
SPEAKER_01: But we said from day one,
2:07:32
SPEAKER_01: when they first talked about that they were going to do this tour,
2:07:36
SPEAKER_01: we were like, is there really enough love for Triumph to do this?
2:07:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, they had to move it from smaller venues to bigger ones.
2:07:46
SPEAKER_01: But that was the first announcement.
2:07:50
SPEAKER_01: When they announced the second leg of the tour,
2:07:53
SPEAKER_01: I think most of the people had kind of traveled to see it where they needed to go.
2:08:01
SPEAKER_01: I think they mistakenly thought that they were as big as Rush.
2:08:05
SPEAKER_01: And since Rush was out there, they could be out there.
2:08:09
SPEAKER_01: And again, I could be dead wrong on this.
2:08:11
SPEAKER_01: It could just be that Alopecia fucking stopped the Triumph Tour.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:08:18
SPEAKER_01: I don't know either.
2:08:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
2:08:20
SPEAKER_02: But if they were repeating the same markets as they did on the first leg,
2:08:27
SPEAKER_02: I would probably say that that was more likely the cause.
2:08:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:08:33
SPEAKER_02: But the second leg was hitting markets they hadn't played yet.
2:08:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, who...
2:08:41
SPEAKER_01: They were already doing it without the drummer.
2:08:43
SPEAKER_01: Do you think that they couldn't lose a second guy?
2:08:45
SPEAKER_01: Or do you think if it was Rick Emmett?
2:08:50
SPEAKER_02: If it's Rick Emmett, it's a no-go.
2:08:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:08:53
SPEAKER_01: But if it's the other two guys, does that matter?
2:08:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, only two of the guys are touring.
2:09:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because the one guy said, I'm going to be out there.
2:09:03
SPEAKER_01: And he was there for like, what, half a show or some shit?
2:09:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's not in the best of condition, I guess.
2:09:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_01: And again, I don't have a problem with any of it.
2:09:14
SPEAKER_01: I just am like, just admit it.
2:09:21
SPEAKER_01: See, this is where I hate when bans act like bans.
2:09:26
SPEAKER_01: If it's a medical condition, say what it is.
2:09:30
SPEAKER_01: Because what is everybody doing now?
2:09:32
SPEAKER_01: Exactly what we're doing right here.
2:09:35
SPEAKER_01: You're either wondering what it is or questioning if it's real.
2:09:41
SPEAKER_01: Because so many times in the past when bands can't sell tickets,
2:09:44
SPEAKER_01: they say, oh, so-and-so is sick.
2:09:48
SPEAKER_01: Yes or no?
2:09:49
SPEAKER_02: That is true.
2:09:51
SPEAKER_02: We know that from personal experience.
2:09:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:09:55
SPEAKER_01: So if there's an illness, come out there and say, you know what?
2:09:58
SPEAKER_01: Rick Emmett is struggling.
2:10:01
SPEAKER_01: He's got a heart murmur or whatever it is.
2:10:04
SPEAKER_01: And I'm, you know, again, not hoping for anything to be wrong with these guys.
2:10:10
SPEAKER_01: But just say what it is.
2:10:12
SPEAKER_01: Just say, yeah, we can't go on because Rick Emmett has leukemia or whatever.
2:10:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, and that's it.
2:10:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:10:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, there's a couple of factors here.
2:10:23
SPEAKER_02: Now, of course,
2:10:24
SPEAKER_02: the press release said that they were going to be back and reschedule shows,
2:10:30
SPEAKER_02: blah, blah, blah.
2:10:32
SPEAKER_02: Now, my question is, is this tour too late in the season to draw enough interest?
2:10:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it's like in the Christmas run.
2:10:44
SPEAKER_02: It's Thanksgiving Christmas.
2:10:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:10:47
SPEAKER_02: So is it too late in the season and will they reschedule during
2:10:51
SPEAKER_02: the concert tour season next year?
2:10:56
SPEAKER_02: Where they might have a better shot at selling tickets?
2:11:00
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
2:11:02
SPEAKER_01: Don't want to see Rick Emmett losing his eyebrows though.
2:11:05
SPEAKER_02: True.
2:11:07
SPEAKER_01: You know.
2:11:08
SPEAKER_02: But I thought,
2:11:10
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:11:10
SPEAKER_02: when we were first discussing the second leg of the tour,
2:11:16
SPEAKER_02: that they were playing in Cleveland on Thanksgiving Eve, of all things.
2:11:22
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, well, that's the night before Thanksgiving.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:11:27
SPEAKER_02: That's not a good thing.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:11:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, because people are traveling, they're preparing, they're...
2:11:35
SPEAKER_02: Welcoming family into town, whatever it is.
2:11:39
SPEAKER_02: And that's not a good night to have a concert in the middle of the week than
2:11:43
SPEAKER_02: the night before a major holiday.
2:11:48
SPEAKER_03: And a major travel holiday.
2:11:50
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:11:51
SPEAKER_03: So it's like even if you were wanting to fly in to see it, it's going to be a real bitch.
2:11:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_01: Fly in the day.
2:11:58
SPEAKER_01: You're going to pay premium prices on those airlines.
2:12:03
SPEAKER_01: Oof.
2:12:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:12:04
SPEAKER_03: I mean, look, I hope that it's whatever it is.
2:12:08
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I hope it is Blue Dot Flu.
2:12:12
SPEAKER_01: And that's why they're canceling, because obviously you don't want them to be sick.
2:12:18
SPEAKER_01: But I just think they were trying to be too big.
2:12:23
SPEAKER_01: Honestly.
2:12:25
SPEAKER_01: I thought that from day one.
2:12:27
SPEAKER_01: Now they canceled half of their tour.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_01: I still think that.
2:12:31
SPEAKER_01: And they did good numbers for a while until they announced the second thing.
2:12:36
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you who's probably celebrating, the TSO people.
2:12:40
SPEAKER_01: They're probably thrilled that there's a bunch of people with concert money
2:12:44
SPEAKER_01: that don't have tickets yet.
2:12:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:12:47
SPEAKER_01: You know, TSO will probably pick up a good amount of that, don't you think?
2:12:52
SPEAKER_02: You would think so.
2:12:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're always a big draw.
2:12:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they sell out two shows a thing.
2:13:00
SPEAKER_01: If they haven't sold them out already,
2:13:02
SPEAKER_01: they'll grab some of those Triumph people that now have $300 and $400
2:13:06
SPEAKER_01: in their pocket that they haven't spent.
2:13:10
SPEAKER_01: That's a good thing for them.
2:13:13
SPEAKER_02: I forgot about the yearly trek of TSO.
2:13:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, it's back out there again.
2:13:20
SPEAKER_02: So that Triumph thing would definitely be a rival to that.
2:13:25
SPEAKER_02: To TSO, yeah.
2:13:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, same exact time frame.
2:13:31
SPEAKER_02: It's like, yeah, we wanted to go to see Triumph, but TSO is coming.
2:13:39
SPEAKER_02: And we never miss it.
2:13:39
SPEAKER_02: We go every year.
2:13:41
SPEAKER_02: It's a pilgrimage.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:13:45
SPEAKER_01: Well, so much for seeing you on Thanksgiving Eve.
2:13:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:13:53
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so Triumph is the first one that canceled this week.
2:13:57
SPEAKER_01: Then, out of the blue...
2:14:01
SPEAKER_01: Today, Deep Purple is done.
2:14:06
SPEAKER_01: Or at least for now,
2:14:08
SPEAKER_01: Deep Purple has announced that due to Ian Gillen having some health issues,
2:14:13
SPEAKER_01: medical emergency or whatever, they are now done off the road.
2:14:20
SPEAKER_01: So, and again, hard to be surprised when they're 80 years old, but
2:14:28
SPEAKER_01: another one done.
2:14:31
SPEAKER_01: Just done.
2:14:34
SPEAKER_01: Any thoughts about Deep Purple?
2:14:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm surprised that they lasted as long as they have.
2:14:41
SPEAKER_02: Because isn't Ian like about blind?
2:14:44
SPEAKER_03: Blind.
2:14:45
SPEAKER_03: He's 80.
2:14:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, he's...
2:14:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:14:51
SPEAKER_03: I think we saw the very best of the last of them when Blackmore came out for that.
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2:16:02
SPEAKER_02: And Blackmore didn't look well.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_03: He looked very unhealthy as well.
2:16:06
SPEAKER_02: He had the big bloated belly and not looking the best.
2:16:12
SPEAKER_03: Wearing his sweats with the white socks.
2:16:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:16:15
SPEAKER_03: And the sweats tucked into the socks.
2:16:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:16:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, look, these guys, and I know they're never going to do it.
2:16:26
SPEAKER_01: We can bitch and moan and whine about it forever.
2:16:28
SPEAKER_01: These guys are never going to retire
2:16:30
SPEAKER_03: when they should.
2:16:31
SPEAKER_03: They're going to go until the wheels fall off.
2:16:35
SPEAKER_01: This is two examples,
2:16:36
SPEAKER_01: and I'm about to give you a third example here in a second,
2:16:39
SPEAKER_01: of the wheels falling right the fuck off the fucking cart.
2:16:43
SPEAKER_01: These guys here should...
2:16:46
SPEAKER_01: Deep Purple, yes, they've still been making quality music, I guess, like the new music.
2:16:52
SPEAKER_01: The last couple albums have been okay.
2:16:55
SPEAKER_01: Horrendously named, but pretty good records if you listen to them.
2:16:59
SPEAKER_01: Negative One and...
2:17:01
SPEAKER_01: Or equals one or whatever that was.
2:17:04
SPEAKER_01: And then now Splat.
2:17:07
SPEAKER_01: Splat.
2:17:08
SPEAKER_01: So dumb.
2:17:10
SPEAKER_01: But decent records if you listen to them.
2:17:14
SPEAKER_01: Deep Purple should ask Mike Love to be their singer.
2:17:19
SPEAKER_03: He's probably got the same energy.
2:17:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:17:25
SPEAKER_02: Wow, was that a train wreck?
2:17:26
SPEAKER_02: That was the worst.
2:17:29
SPEAKER_02: And again, I'm really disappointed with this John Stamos.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, because he just trotted him out there?
2:17:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, not only that, but he's making excuses for the guy.
2:17:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:17:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, and he's like the, you know, obviously John Stamos is a known person.
2:17:47
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:17:48
SPEAKER_02: But this whole being part of the Beach Boys and he's out there, you know, Making excuses.
2:17:56
SPEAKER_02: And, well, he's just out there doing what he loves to do.
2:17:59
SPEAKER_02: And I hope he continues doing this for many years to come.
2:18:03
SPEAKER_02: It's like, what are you talking about?
2:18:05
SPEAKER_01: This guy can't barely get out of his own way.
2:18:07
SPEAKER_01: He's not going to continue breathing for many years to come.
2:18:12
SPEAKER_01: He will be, again,
2:18:13
SPEAKER_01: we joked about it a little bit,
2:18:15
SPEAKER_01: but it will not surprise anybody if he's dead before Christmas.
2:18:20
SPEAKER_01: That guy looked dead.
2:18:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he looked like a Beach Boys at Bernie's.
2:18:26
SPEAKER_01: It did.
2:18:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that was really, really sad.
2:18:32
SPEAKER_01: That was really, really sad.
2:18:36
SPEAKER_01: But he's not the only one that's doing a really sad thing.
2:18:39
SPEAKER_01: Because the third band that called
2:18:41
SPEAKER_03: it a career this week,
2:18:43
SPEAKER_03: or at least they said they're on indefinite hiatus.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_02: On an extended hiatus.
2:18:50
SPEAKER_01: That would be cheap trick.
2:18:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've seen any of the most recent Cheap Trick shows.
2:18:58
SPEAKER_02: No, I have not.
2:18:59
SPEAKER_01: Have you ever seen Cheap Trick live?
2:19:02
SPEAKER_02: Once.
2:19:02
SPEAKER_01: Okay, fair enough.
2:19:03
SPEAKER_02: No, I've actually seen them twice.
2:19:07
SPEAKER_02: They opened for Heart on two times that I've seen Heart.
2:19:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've seen them a bunch of times.
2:19:13
SPEAKER_01: I obviously saw them at, whatchamacallit, the Borgata, when...
2:19:20
SPEAKER_01: Ed took me there and I met Larry David.
2:19:24
SPEAKER_01: That was at a Cheap Trick show.
2:19:26
SPEAKER_01: And I saw him once open for Rat.
2:19:29
SPEAKER_01: And I saw him once open for, I'm tempted to say like Motley Crue maybe.
2:19:35
SPEAKER_01: I've seen him a few times.
2:19:37
SPEAKER_01: But you've seen him a couple times.
2:19:39
SPEAKER_01: So am I crazy in thinking that one of the appeals to the show was always seeing Rick Nielsen?
2:19:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
2:19:54
SPEAKER_01: Basically, it was the two guys that mattered, Xander and Nielsen.
2:19:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, it's always the drummer, the vocalist, the guitarist, always.
2:20:03
SPEAKER_01: But there was an energy to Rick Nielsen that I personally think was the signature
2:20:10
SPEAKER_01: of Cheap Trick.
2:20:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know,
2:20:13
SPEAKER_01: he always had the wacky guitars and everything,
2:20:16
SPEAKER_01: and, you know, that was kind of cool.
2:20:18
SPEAKER_01: But he had his own Kind of unique energy on the stage.
2:20:23
SPEAKER_01: Do you agree with that?
2:20:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, of course.
2:20:26
SPEAKER_02: He always kind of came off like a lunatic.
2:20:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:20:30
SPEAKER_01: Let me show you what this lunatic's been doing lately.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_01: This is from about a month ago, I believe.
2:20:42
SPEAKER_01: Wait till you see him just rocking out.
2:20:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, there he is sitting down.
2:20:47
SPEAKER_01: But you know that's a bad sign.
2:20:51
SPEAKER_01: Alright, so here we go.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_01: This is Cheap Trick playing Surrender.
2:20:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah!
2:21:01
SPEAKER_02: I think you might know this next song.
2:21:05
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2:21:35
SPEAKER_01: Who is this dude with the hat over here?
2:21:39
SPEAKER_02: Peterson?
2:21:40
SPEAKER_02: I think that's his name.
2:21:42
SPEAKER_01: Is that him?
2:21:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:21:43
SPEAKER_01: Who's the guy playing drums?
2:21:45
SPEAKER_02: That's Dax.
2:21:46
SPEAKER_01: Dax Carlos or whatever?
2:21:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's the son of...
2:21:51
SPEAKER_01: Bunny Carlos?
2:21:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:21:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:21:53
SPEAKER_02: Of Rick Nielsen?
2:21:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I think so, yeah.
2:21:56
SPEAKER_01: Or no, Xander.
2:21:58
SPEAKER_01: Is he Xander?
2:21:59
SPEAKER_02: Whatever, who cares?
2:22:00
SPEAKER_02: He's the son of one of these guys.
2:22:02
SPEAKER_02: Son of a bitch, that's who he is.
2:22:05
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_01: Now, not having Rick Nielsen in this picture that we have on the screen now
2:22:11
SPEAKER_01: before we continue, is this cheap trick?
2:22:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know.
2:22:18
SPEAKER_02: Again, did they make any announcement what's wrong with him?
2:22:23
SPEAKER_02: Why he can't stand?
2:22:24
SPEAKER_01: No, not that I'm aware of.
2:22:26
SPEAKER_01: Maybe they did, but I didn't hear it.
2:22:28
SPEAKER_02: I didn't either.
2:22:30
SPEAKER_01: I would think we would have heard this.
2:22:33
SPEAKER_01: How about he's just old and broken down?
2:22:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:22:37
SPEAKER_01: Him and Phil Collins are forming a new band.
2:22:43
SPEAKER_01: But without him out there, this is worthless.
2:22:48
SPEAKER_01: Say what you want, but I don't think Cheap Trick's songs were good enough just as songs.
2:22:53
SPEAKER_01: Do you?
2:22:55
SPEAKER_02: Not really.
2:22:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they got a cult following, you know.
2:23:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that Budokan record did justice for them.
2:23:08
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, I like some of their songs.
2:23:10
SPEAKER_01: Don't get me wrong.
2:23:12
SPEAKER_01: I like, what is the song?
2:23:18
SPEAKER_01: And Tonight It's You.
2:23:19
SPEAKER_01: I think that's a pretty good song.
2:23:21
SPEAKER_01: I like The Flame.
2:23:22
SPEAKER_01: That was okay.
2:23:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, The Flame's a good song.
2:23:28
SPEAKER_01: When's the last time they were relevant, though?
2:23:31
SPEAKER_02: I think when they had The Flame and Can't Stop Falling in Love.
2:23:35
SPEAKER_02: What's that, 80s?
2:23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was late 80s.
2:23:38
SPEAKER_02: Can't Stop Falling in Love.
2:23:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:23:44
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, they've been great live.
2:23:46
SPEAKER_01: I've seen them a few times, and they definitely brought energy.
2:23:53
SPEAKER_01: I saw this video and I was like, what is this?
2:23:56
SPEAKER_01: This is not even the energy that I saw 10 years ago, which admittedly, they're 10 years older.
2:24:02
SPEAKER_01: They're probably pushing 80.
2:24:05
SPEAKER_01: This is horrible.
2:24:07
SPEAKER_01: All right, here's some more.
2:24:09
Just the end of the day.
2:24:10
SPEAKER_00: I told you to fall in love.
2:24:15
SPEAKER_00: There's no reason to die.
2:24:21
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2:24:48
SPEAKER_01: All right, that's a big solo, yeah!
2:24:51
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2:25:00
SPEAKER_01: He looks like a retarded guy that doesn't know what he's doing.
2:25:05
SPEAKER_03: Or like if Michael J.
2:25:06
SPEAKER_03: Fox tried to play guitar or something.
2:25:09
SPEAKER_01: It's just all over the place.
2:25:13
SPEAKER_01: What he does does not work sitting down.
2:25:16
SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't work.
2:25:18
SPEAKER_02: No, because you want to see the checkerboard,
2:25:22
SPEAKER_02: you know, guitar strap and the wacky guitars and, you know.
2:25:30
SPEAKER_02: His goofy, you know, stage moves and things.
2:25:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, persona or whatever.
2:25:35
SPEAKER_01: Here's the real question.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_01: Can they tour without him?
2:25:42
SPEAKER_02: They could, but I think that there'd be a big, well, here's the thing.
2:25:48
SPEAKER_02: It would depend on if a promoter is willing to take the chance to hire Chief Trick without him.
2:25:58
SPEAKER_01: What kind of money?
2:25:59
SPEAKER_01: Are they getting LA Guns money at that point?
2:26:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what they command now.
2:26:06
SPEAKER_01: Probably not a ton.
2:26:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to guess $50,000 to $75,000.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_02: You think that much?
2:26:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:13
SPEAKER_02: Easily, yeah.
2:26:15
SPEAKER_02: $50,000 to $75,000.
2:26:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:26:20
SPEAKER_01: What does a Dokken get?
2:26:22
SPEAKER_01: $30,000?
2:26:23
SPEAKER_02: $30,000.
2:26:24
SPEAKER_01: So they get almost double Dokken money?
2:26:29
SPEAKER_02: I think that's not enough or too much.
2:26:31
SPEAKER_01: I think it's way much.
2:26:35
SPEAKER_02: But they're a radio staple legacy act.
2:26:39
SPEAKER_02: They're still played on commercial radio.
2:26:42
SPEAKER_01: Just the two songs, this one and I Want You to Want Me.
2:26:46
SPEAKER_01: I guess that matters.
2:26:47
SPEAKER_02: But they're a classic rock band.
2:26:50
SPEAKER_02: They've got that classic rock following.
2:26:54
SPEAKER_01: And I guess every oldie station in the country plays them.
2:26:58
SPEAKER_01: I want you to want me.
2:27:01
SPEAKER_01: I always thought that was a shit song.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_01: Do you like that song?
2:27:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a big Cheap Trick fan.
2:27:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm not really either.
2:27:10
SPEAKER_01: I've tried.
2:27:11
SPEAKER_01: My guy Ed is like the biggest Cheap Trick fan in the world.
2:27:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm a very, very casual fan.
2:27:18
SPEAKER_02: Very casual.
2:27:19
SPEAKER_01: I like about half the hits.
2:27:22
SPEAKER_01: By far, my favorite song is Tonight at You.
2:27:25
SPEAKER_01: By a million miles.
2:27:26
SPEAKER_01: That's my favorite.
2:27:27
SPEAKER_03: And I know that's from like the late,
2:27:29
SPEAKER_03: most of the real hardcore cheap trick fans would say I'm a poser because
2:27:36
SPEAKER_01: that's like
2:27:36
SPEAKER_01: the modern cheap trick.
2:27:38
SPEAKER_01: I know it's 1980 whatever,
2:27:40
SPEAKER_01: six or whatever, but they don't look at that as the, you know, the Budokan era.
2:27:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm with you.
2:27:50
SPEAKER_01: I never got it.
2:27:52
SPEAKER_01: Seen them.
2:27:54
SPEAKER_01: Didn't hate them.
2:27:55
SPEAKER_01: Knew the songs.
2:27:57
SPEAKER_01: Sang along with most of them, the ones I knew.
2:28:01
SPEAKER_01: And sat there waiting for the ones I knew and the ones that I didn't know.
2:28:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, again, I don't dislike them, but I'm not a fan.
2:28:10
SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't go, oh, man, I got to go see Cheap Trick.
2:28:14
SPEAKER_01: I got to catch them one last time before they're done.
2:28:18
SPEAKER_01: There's none of that going on.
2:28:20
SPEAKER_01: Definitely not.
2:28:21
SPEAKER_02: You know, and they don't live too far from me.
2:28:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're from what, Rockford?
2:28:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Rockford, Illinois, yeah.
2:28:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
2:28:32
SPEAKER_01: I go back to what I say all the time and I get flack every time I say it,
2:28:36
SPEAKER_01: but I'm going to keep saying it.
2:28:38
SPEAKER_01: If you can't stand up, you cannot be on that stage.
2:28:42
SPEAKER_01: That should be a rule.
2:28:44
SPEAKER_01: The only one that should be sitting is the drummer.
2:28:47
SPEAKER_01: That's the only one.
2:28:49
SPEAKER_01: And he better be able to stand up and take a bow.
2:28:53
SPEAKER_01: This is bullshit.
2:28:55
SPEAKER_01: This is like this to charge $100 a ticket to see this where the main guy
2:29:03
SPEAKER_01: that you would go to see is sitting there acting like a fucking MS patient.
2:29:11
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's fucking terrible.
2:29:14
SPEAKER_01: It's terrible.
2:29:15
SPEAKER_02: What would Mike Damone say about this?
2:29:19
SPEAKER_01: He wouldn't sell me tickets.
2:29:21
SPEAKER_01: You're like, I didn't even bother with the cheap trick tickets this time.
2:29:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm working here, Stacey.
2:29:27
SPEAKER_02: I could be blowing a big deal.
2:29:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:29:31
SPEAKER_01: Where were you last week?
2:29:33
SPEAKER_01: I had 10 rows and 10 pairs.
2:29:39
SPEAKER_02: Trying to sell some cheap trick.
2:29:41
SPEAKER_02: Your mama's all right.
2:29:42
SPEAKER_02: Your daddy's all right.
2:29:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like, no thanks.
2:29:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:29:52
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, cheap trick, donezo.
2:29:55
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
2:29:57
SPEAKER_02: For the foreseeable future.
2:29:58
SPEAKER_01: For the foreseeable future.
2:30:00
SPEAKER_02: Until they get Rick Nielsen some titanium legs.
2:30:05
SPEAKER_01: Or if he has his grandson or something.
2:30:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:30:08
SPEAKER_01: James Nielsen will be out there playing.
2:30:12
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
2:30:12
SPEAKER_01: We'll just get all the grandsons out there to play these songs.
2:30:17
SPEAKER_01: People would probably still go see it.
2:30:19
SPEAKER_01: Don't you think?
2:30:20
SPEAKER_02: There's people out there seeing bands that have no original members,
2:30:24
SPEAKER_02: so what
2:30:25
SPEAKER_02: makes this any different?
2:30:27
SPEAKER_01: There's people out there seeing Paul and Gene's kid for no other reason
2:30:31
SPEAKER_01: than their Paul and Gene's kid.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Wolfie Van Halen.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_01: Same with Wolfie Van Halen.
2:30:37
SPEAKER_01: Same with, what's that band, Bastardine, James Hetfield's kid.
2:30:43
SPEAKER_01: And whatever that band is with Corey Taylor from Slipknot's kid.
2:30:48
SPEAKER_01: There's a bunch of the kid bands out there.
2:30:51
SPEAKER_01: I just wonder if any of them could stand on their own two feet.
2:30:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
2:30:55
SPEAKER_01: I really don't think so.
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2:32:28
SPEAKER_01: All right,
2:32:29
SPEAKER_01: last but not least in this topic,
2:32:33
SPEAKER_01: as you and I both speculated, this Aerosmith thing was a real shit show.
2:32:41
SPEAKER_01: Have you watched any of it or no?
2:32:44
SPEAKER_02: I didn't even know when it was happening.
2:32:46
SPEAKER_02: I have not seen any of it.
2:32:49
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:32:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, good.
2:32:50
SPEAKER_01: It happened two nights ago.
2:32:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:32:55
SPEAKER_01: And then tonight was the second show, I guess.
2:32:58
SPEAKER_01: October 31st, I think, was the second one.
2:33:02
SPEAKER_01: And as you and I predicted, and I think anybody could.
2:33:09
SPEAKER_01: It's not like we're geniuses.
2:33:11
SPEAKER_01: It was nothing but a bunch of bands coming out and doing some Aerosmith songs and
2:33:17
SPEAKER_01: then Aerosmith playing a few songs.
2:33:19
SPEAKER_01: I think they played six in the opening night.
2:33:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't like what they did with Ozzy.
2:33:26
SPEAKER_01: Similar, similar thing.
2:33:30
SPEAKER_01: There was no need for most of this.
2:33:35
SPEAKER_01: This was, and when we watch some of the video, you'll see why.
2:33:41
SPEAKER_01: This was a industry circle jerk.
2:33:46
SPEAKER_01: That's what this was.
2:33:47
SPEAKER_01: This was an industry jerk off fest to the tunes of Aerosmith.
2:33:53
SPEAKER_03: You had a bunch of people that don't really have anything to do with Aerosmith,
2:33:56
SPEAKER_03: except maybe they like Aerosmith,
2:33:59
SPEAKER_03: which gee,
2:33:59
SPEAKER_03: that only narrows it down to
2:34:01
SPEAKER_01: every musician of the last 50 years,
2:34:05
SPEAKER_01: but they're just out there for no real reason.
2:34:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, Well, let's get to it.
2:34:12
SPEAKER_01: I'll give you a little bit of the startup of the show.
2:34:18
SPEAKER_01: Because when I think of Aerosmith, I don't think of that.
2:34:23
SPEAKER_01: The first thing I think of is, of course, Sully Erna from Godsmack.
2:34:31
SPEAKER_01: Right?
2:34:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_01: That's what you think of, right?
2:34:35
SPEAKER_01: When somebody says, hey, how about that Aerosmith thing?
2:34:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's from the Boston area, correct?
2:34:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, so that's the tie-in there.
2:34:46
SPEAKER_01: Okay, tie-in is one thing.
2:34:49
SPEAKER_01: Opening an Aerosmith tribute is another thing.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_01: Completely another thing.
2:34:57
SPEAKER_01: He's there because he's from the same city?
2:35:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, it's no different than Gary Cherone.
2:35:06
SPEAKER_02: Same thing.
2:35:06
SPEAKER_02: Who I agree shouldn't be at this thing either.
2:35:09
SPEAKER_02: Because,
2:35:11
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:35:11
SPEAKER_02: when Joe Perry went out and did some shows that,
2:35:17
SPEAKER_02: you know, I went to one of the shows that was at the...
2:35:22
SPEAKER_02: I can't think of the name of the theater.
2:35:27
SPEAKER_02: I went to see it.
2:35:28
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, Gary Cherone was...
2:35:32
SPEAKER_02: Singing with Joe Perry.
2:35:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:35:36
SPEAKER_02: Because they're Boston, you know, Boston bros, I guess.
2:35:40
SPEAKER_01: Wonderful.
2:35:40
SPEAKER_01: Has nothing to do with fucking Aerosmith.
2:35:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, I agree.
2:35:44
SPEAKER_02: But aside from just being friends, I guess.
2:35:47
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
2:35:48
SPEAKER_02: Boston, Bostonians.
2:35:50
SPEAKER_01: But they literally just trotted out anybody.
2:35:53
SPEAKER_01: It really feels like they trotted out anybody that was willing to come to this fucking thing.
2:35:56
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:35:57
SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure that's probably the case.
2:35:59
SPEAKER_01: They trotted out Johnny Depp.
2:36:02
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
2:36:03
SPEAKER_01: He plays with Joe Perry in The Hollywood Vampires.
2:36:07
SPEAKER_01: There's no place for Johnny Depp at an Aerosmith tribute.
2:36:10
SPEAKER_02: It's just not.
2:36:12
SPEAKER_02: Aside from just being friends.
2:36:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
2:36:17
SPEAKER_01: Hart was there.
2:36:20
SPEAKER_01: What's their tie-in?
2:36:23
SPEAKER_01: Other than willingness to show up.
2:36:28
SPEAKER_01: The Black Crows were there.
2:36:33
SPEAKER_01: I do think they were supposed to maybe be the opener for the tour that got canceled.
2:36:38
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
2:36:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you might be right.
2:36:42
SPEAKER_01: Let me scroll up here a little bit so I can see who all else was at this thing.
2:36:48
SPEAKER_01: Sully Erna.
2:36:52
SPEAKER_01: Bill Burr and Warren Haynes jumped out there.
2:36:55
SPEAKER_02: Bill Burr again is Bostonian guy.
2:36:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:37:00
SPEAKER_01: Warren Haynes.
2:37:01
SPEAKER_01: Why is he out there playing Aerosmith songs?
2:37:06
SPEAKER_01: Then Billy Idol and Steve Stevens.
2:37:10
SPEAKER_01: Another one that I think of all the time when I listen to Aerosmith is Eyes Without a Face.
2:37:17
SPEAKER_01: It's the same as Lord of the Thighs, isn't it?
2:37:21
SPEAKER_01: Of course, Sammy Hagar shows up because does Sammy not show up at everything?
2:37:30
SPEAKER_01: Then Heart.
2:37:32
SPEAKER_01: Then Eric Church showed up for a couple of songs.
2:37:34
SPEAKER_01: I know you were waiting on that one, Neely.
2:37:37
SPEAKER_01: Eric Church made an appearance.
2:37:40
SPEAKER_01: Black Crows.
2:37:41
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
2:37:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know who
2:37:44
SPEAKER_02: that is.
2:37:45
SPEAKER_01: He's just one of these modern douches.
2:37:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:37:48
SPEAKER_02: Don't know him.
2:37:50
SPEAKER_01: Guns N' Roses, of course, show up.
2:37:52
SPEAKER_01: I know they have history.
2:37:54
SPEAKER_01: But of course, Guns N' Roses decided to be the only band to play their own songs.
2:38:03
SPEAKER_01: They couldn't just play three or four or five
2:38:10
SPEAKER_01: Aerosmith songs.
2:38:11
SPEAKER_03: They, of course,
2:38:12
SPEAKER_03: had to work in Welcome to the Jungle in Paradise City into an Aerosmith tribute.
2:38:20
SPEAKER_01: Fucking dumb.
2:38:22
SPEAKER_01: Then Aerosmith came out, played six songs,
2:38:27
SPEAKER_03: only one of them with Joey Kramer.
2:38:30
SPEAKER_03: So Joey Kramer is either half dead or really hated.
2:38:34
SPEAKER_01: But whatever it is, he really ain't back in Aerosmith.
2:38:42
SPEAKER_03: So we can play anything you want here.
2:38:44
SPEAKER_03: I'll start with some Sully Erna.
2:38:47
SPEAKER_01: Because again, when I think of Aerosmith, I think of Godsmack.
2:38:52
SPEAKER_01: So why not have Sully open the show?
2:38:55
SPEAKER_01: Open the show.
2:39:18
SPEAKER_01: Just as a reminder, Neely, The tickets were anywhere from $300,000 for this.
2:39:24
SPEAKER_01: For this.
2:39:25
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
2:39:40
[music]
2:40:45
SPEAKER_01: Thoughts?
2:40:47
SPEAKER_02: It's not terrible.
2:40:48
SPEAKER_02: It's not terrible.
2:40:49
SPEAKER_02: I thought it sounded pretty good.
2:40:52
SPEAKER_01: $1,000 worth of good?
2:40:54
SPEAKER_02: Again, I wouldn't spend the money to go even if it was just a full Aerosmith show.
2:41:00
SPEAKER_01: No?
2:41:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, shit.
2:41:03
SPEAKER_01: People are bitching.
2:41:03
SPEAKER_01: I forgot to put the video up.
2:41:06
SPEAKER_01: Sucks to be you guys.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_01: We enjoyed it.
2:41:09
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:41:11
SPEAKER_01: Who do you want to hear?
2:41:12
SPEAKER_01: Who would
2:41:13
SPEAKER_02: you like?
2:41:13
SPEAKER_02: I want to hear Black Crows.
2:41:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm a Black Crows fan, so let's hear some Black Crows.
2:41:17
SPEAKER_02: Let's see what they bring to the Aerosmith grouping.
2:41:23
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:41:25
SPEAKER_01: What the fuck?
2:41:29
SPEAKER_03: Look at us on Planet Aerosmith.
2:41:32
Yes!
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2:44:04
SPEAKER_02: I was wondering if Chris was even singing and then they finally brought him up.
2:44:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they brought him up.
2:44:09
SPEAKER_02: It was like buried.
2:44:10
SPEAKER_02: It was just like, what the hell?
2:44:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the whole thing sounds okay.
2:44:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we'll pop through a couple other songs.
2:44:16
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:44:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that.
2:44:18
SPEAKER_01: What I really find to be the issue,
2:44:23
SPEAKER_01: other than the fact that it's just kind of random who's on stage here and who's
2:44:32
SPEAKER_01: with this,
2:44:33
SPEAKER_01: The other thing I don't like
2:44:35
SPEAKER_01: about this is this just feels like it was thrown together.
2:44:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I agree with that.
2:44:42
SPEAKER_02: The question I have is what is the reason for this?
2:44:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why?
2:44:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, is this Aerosmith's farewell?
2:44:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe so.
2:44:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:44:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they didn't say it was.
2:44:59
SPEAKER_02: That's my point.
2:45:00
SPEAKER_01: I know Trunk said it was, but that's Eddie.
2:45:03
SPEAKER_01: He does a lot of shit.
2:45:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:45:06
SPEAKER_02: But the question is, is why this?
2:45:09
SPEAKER_02: Why now?
2:45:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:45:11
SPEAKER_01: And why did it have to come from?
2:45:14
SPEAKER_01: Obviously,
2:45:15
SPEAKER_01: they were planning it longer than two weeks
2:45:16
SPEAKER_01: because you couldn't do all this production behind them in two weeks.
2:45:21
SPEAKER_01: But why couldn't they do like they did with the Ozzy thing?
2:45:26
SPEAKER_01: Six months, build it up.
2:45:29
SPEAKER_01: Build it up as something special.
2:45:30
SPEAKER_01: This doesn't feel special.
2:45:33
SPEAKER_01: This just feels like a random fucking show.
2:45:36
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't it?
2:45:37
SPEAKER_01: Or am I crazy?
2:45:39
SPEAKER_02: No, it does.
2:45:39
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, you know, there was nothing unique about this reason that they're doing this.
2:45:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:45:49
SPEAKER_02: Aside from...
2:45:50
SPEAKER_02: Hey, it's a night of Aerosmith music with Aerosmith and Friends.
2:45:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:45:54
SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, what's the reason for this?
2:45:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe this is just testing the waters to see if they still can get out there
2:46:01
SPEAKER_02: and do something.
2:46:02
SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
2:46:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I mean, do you really think they made that gigantic backdrop for two shows?
2:46:09
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:46:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's that too.
2:46:12
SPEAKER_01: That shit's, how much do you think that costs to make?
2:46:16
SPEAKER_01: Probably not cheap.
2:46:20
SPEAKER_01: That might be trying to gear up for a show.
2:46:22
SPEAKER_02: But again,
2:46:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that was what they were using for their tour a couple of years ago
2:46:29
SPEAKER_02: that they had to cut short or not.
2:46:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:46:33
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, yeah, I agree with you that that huge backdrop.
2:46:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:46:38
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they didn't do that for two shows.
2:46:41
SPEAKER_03: No way.
2:46:42
SPEAKER_03: There's no chance of that.
2:46:44
SPEAKER_01: And I'm with you.
2:46:45
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that they were using that or not before.
2:46:48
SPEAKER_01: Let me give you some heart.
2:46:51
SPEAKER_01: Because, boy, Ann Wilson.
2:46:54
SPEAKER_01: Is she still sitting down?
2:46:57
SPEAKER_01: You'll see.
2:46:59
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:47:04
SPEAKER_02: Who's to say Ellison would never get any good covers?
2:47:10
[music]
2:48:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm okay.
2:48:07
SPEAKER_00: And I'm stuck like you.
2:48:10
SPEAKER_00: Because I am there.
2:48:14
SPEAKER_00: I need you.
2:48:14
SPEAKER_00: If I need you, don't love to me.
2:48:19
[music]
2:48:30
SPEAKER_02: So boring.
2:48:33
SPEAKER_02: Is that the only song that they're playing?
2:48:35
SPEAKER_01: They have another one.
2:48:37
SPEAKER_02: I see Kenny Aronoff back there.
2:48:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
2:48:40
SPEAKER_02: Is he playing with
2:48:41
SPEAKER_03: Hart now?
2:48:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:48:43
SPEAKER_03: He might just be in the,
2:48:44
SPEAKER_03: I think he was playing at the beginning,
2:48:46
SPEAKER_03: too, so I think he might just be the house band.
2:48:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, so this is like the house band, okay.
2:48:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because Nuno seems to be out there at most of this shit, too, so.
2:48:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he's in the house band as well, and I think Phil X might have been out there as well.
2:49:01
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, here's Janie's Got a Gun from Hart.
2:49:07
There we go.
2:49:08
SPEAKER_00: You ready?
2:49:11
You ready?
2:49:12
[music]
2:49:23
SPEAKER_01: Shut up, Spanish guy.
2:49:25
SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
2:49:27
[music]
2:49:44
SPEAKER_02: I thought that was my imagination.
2:49:46
SPEAKER_02: No, it's some Spanish dude.
2:49:49
SPEAKER_02: I hear him.
2:49:50
SPEAKER_03: They're going, making it even worse.
2:49:55
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
2:49:58
She's got a gun.
2:50:04
SPEAKER_00: She's got a gun.
2:50:06
[music]
2:50:20
you could daddy do?
2:50:20
[music]
2:51:05
SPEAKER_01: Whoever filmed this could
2:51:07
SPEAKER_03: have used you.
2:51:07
SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
2:51:09
SPEAKER_03: I was thinking the same thing.
2:51:11
SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
2:51:12
SPEAKER_01: People don't know how to.
2:51:14
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:51:19
SPEAKER_01: She sounds okay in parts.
2:51:23
SPEAKER_01: But it's clear it's kind of over.
2:51:25
SPEAKER_01: Another one should just retire.
2:51:28
SPEAKER_01: It's over.
2:51:30
SPEAKER_01: She's reduced to a chair.
2:51:31
SPEAKER_01: She has cancer.
2:51:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm not even trying to belittle the lady.
2:51:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, she's had an amazing career, but it's done.
2:51:39
SPEAKER_01: Don't you think?
2:51:40
SPEAKER_01: It's done?
2:51:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they've been going at it since, what, like since 1970?
2:51:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 1970.
2:51:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:51:50
SPEAKER_01: It's time to be done.
2:51:52
SPEAKER_01: It's time to move on.
2:51:54
SPEAKER_02: They actually started before Aerosmith.
2:51:58
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
2:52:00
SPEAKER_01: All right, how about Billy Idol doing Living on the Edge?
2:52:04
SPEAKER_01: You up for that?
2:52:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm up for some Billy Idol.
2:52:07
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:52:16
Woo!
2:52:17
SPEAKER_01: Woo!
2:52:18
SPEAKER_01: Woo!
2:52:21
SPEAKER_01: Considering what a wreck he was as a human being in his 30s, he's held up okay.
2:52:27
SPEAKER_02: He's done all right.
2:52:28
SPEAKER_02: He's had some plastic surgery and shit.
2:52:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, he does look like he's wearing a Billy Idol mask,
2:52:37
SPEAKER_01: but he looks healthy.
2:52:39
SPEAKER_01: You know,
2:52:39
SPEAKER_01: when you consider the rampant drug use and the motorcycle accident and You know,
2:52:46
SPEAKER_01: didn't they at one time think they were going to cut his leg off because of
2:52:48
SPEAKER_01: that motorcycle accident?
2:52:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think he was in pretty bad shape.
2:52:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's come all the way back.
2:52:54
SPEAKER_01: He looks pretty healthy for whatever he is.
2:52:57
SPEAKER_01: He's got to be 70, right?
2:52:59
SPEAKER_01: 65, 70?
2:53:01
SPEAKER_01: At least 65.
2:53:02
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
2:53:09
SPEAKER_00: Now that they see it, you know.
2:53:18
SPEAKER_03: What?
2:53:21
Yeah, that's it.
2:53:23
[music]
2:53:40
[music]
2:53:52
SPEAKER_00: There's something wrong with the world today.
2:53:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it is.
2:53:54
[music]
2:54:52
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't have any power anymore.
2:54:55
SPEAKER_01: He sounds okay,
2:54:56
SPEAKER_01: but he, you know, I don't know if you ever saw him live before, but he was powerful.
2:55:01
SPEAKER_01: This ain't the same guy.
2:55:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:55:05
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
2:55:08
SPEAKER_02: He's out there just singing the song.
2:55:11
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of it.
2:55:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah?
2:55:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see.
2:55:15
SPEAKER_01: Want to hear Sammy Hagar?
2:55:18
SPEAKER_02: Sure, let's see what he brings to an Aerosmith song.
2:55:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure a lot to draw the line.
2:55:22
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
2:55:24
SPEAKER_00: And coming to the stage, the grand rocker, the money not
2:55:29
[music]
2:55:40
SPEAKER_01: Can we stop with the red rocker at this point?
2:55:44
SPEAKER_01: The man's wearing zero red.
2:55:46
SPEAKER_03: He's not the red rocker anymore.
2:55:49
SPEAKER_03: He's got white hair now.
2:55:50
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't even have red hair.
2:55:52
SPEAKER_01: He has nothing on that's red.
2:55:54
SPEAKER_01: He's not the red rocker anymore.
2:55:56
SPEAKER_01: He's the shuffleboard rocker or something.
2:55:59
SPEAKER_01: He just looks like an old guy that should be teaching shuffleboard or something.
2:56:04
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
2:56:05
[music]
2:56:25
SPEAKER_00: I said, no, gosh, honey, I'm living on an ice cream.
2:56:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, God, let's go, God, let's go, God, let's go, God, let's go.
2:56:38
[music]
2:56:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he sounds fine.
2:56:54
SPEAKER_01: Again, most of these guys sound fine.
2:56:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for an 80-year-old guy, he's moving around.
2:56:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot better than most of them.
2:57:02
SPEAKER_01: Certainly better than Rick Nielsen these days.
2:57:04
SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
2:57:06
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, let's get to some fun ones, shall we?
2:57:09
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:57:10
SPEAKER_01: Let's go right to the GNR.
2:57:13
SPEAKER_01: Because it's over.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm going right to Welcome to the Jungle.
2:57:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't even care what they sound like singing Aerosmith songs.
2:57:23
SPEAKER_01: It really doesn't matter.
2:57:25
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the jungle.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_01: Appropriate at an Aerosmith show.
2:57:28
SPEAKER_01: We're honored to
2:57:29
SPEAKER_02: be here.
2:57:32
SPEAKER_00: That was really special to all of us and to each of us in their own way.
2:57:39
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
2:57:45
[music]
2:59:16
SPEAKER_02: What do you think happened to his voice?
2:59:18
SPEAKER_01: I think he tore it out.
2:59:20
SPEAKER_02: He blew it up.
2:59:22
SPEAKER_02: Do you think he's had some vocal surgery or something that,
2:59:25
SPEAKER_02: you know, he sounds like, you know, Mickey Mouse now?
2:59:28
SPEAKER_01: He sounds terrible.
2:59:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he cares.
2:59:33
SPEAKER_01: Still selling stadiums, so why fucking fuck
2:59:35
SPEAKER_02: with it?
2:59:37
SPEAKER_02: That's one thing that's just absolutely amazing to me is that since they got back
2:59:42
SPEAKER_02: to this, back together, what, a decade ago already, right?
2:59:46
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
2:59:47
SPEAKER_02: Not in this lifetime.
2:59:49
SPEAKER_02: No, 16,
2:59:49
SPEAKER_01: I think.
2:59:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a decade.
2:59:53
SPEAKER_02: They've been out consistently playing stadiums.
2:59:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:59:57
SPEAKER_02: On the strength, really, of one album.
3:00:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:00:03
SPEAKER_01: And I don't care what anybody says.
3:00:09
SPEAKER_01: Live, they were never brilliant.
3:00:14
SPEAKER_01: They had their moments.
3:00:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:00:16
SPEAKER_01: But Axl was always hit or miss.
3:00:20
SPEAKER_01: Always.
3:00:22
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you'd catch a show that was really, really good.
3:00:25
SPEAKER_01: I caught one or two of those.
3:00:28
SPEAKER_01: But I would say,
3:00:29
SPEAKER_01: I've seen them like six or seven times,
3:00:31
SPEAKER_01: and I would say most of them were not this bad, but not great Axl either.
3:00:40
SPEAKER_01: You know,
3:00:40
SPEAKER_01: honestly,
3:00:41
SPEAKER_01: the best time I saw them was with the The fucked up version of Guns N' Roses.
3:00:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you mean the bastardized version when nobody else was in the band except for Axl?
3:00:52
SPEAKER_01: Axl.
3:00:52
SPEAKER_02: It was like Axl and Buckethead and Brain.
3:00:55
SPEAKER_02: Was that the one that the Eagles of Death Metal opened for them?
3:01:01
SPEAKER_01: No, it was the Waka Waka guy from the Beastie Boys.
3:01:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:01:08
SPEAKER_01: It was at Convo, I think.
3:01:12
SPEAKER_01: Maybe Gundarina, I don't know.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_01: Was at one of those two places.
3:01:16
SPEAKER_01: And Randy and I, Rockin' Randy and I went.
3:01:19
SPEAKER_01: And they were really fucking good.
3:01:22
SPEAKER_01: And I will say, Buckethead was amazing.
3:01:25
SPEAKER_01: He was better than I've ever seen Slash.
3:01:28
SPEAKER_01: Honestly.
3:01:29
SPEAKER_01: He was really good.
3:01:32
SPEAKER_01: And Axl sounded really good.
3:01:33
SPEAKER_01: And the song sounded really good.
3:01:34
SPEAKER_01: Well, why wouldn't it?
3:01:35
SPEAKER_01: You had a fucking all-star band playing them.
3:01:39
SPEAKER_01: You know, but... Yeah, it cracks me up that, you know...
3:01:45
SPEAKER_01: Who was it?
3:01:46
SPEAKER_01: Corey, our friend Corey, Corey Harker.
3:01:49
SPEAKER_01: He told me the reason Axl sounds so bad is because he has TMJ.
3:01:53
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
3:01:54
SPEAKER_01: It's like a jaw condition.
3:01:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
3:01:57
SPEAKER_01: That makes your jaw hurt, like when you eat or sing or talk or whatever.
3:02:05
SPEAKER_01: But I don't see why that would make him sound like Mickey Mouse.
3:02:07
SPEAKER_01: If anything, it would make him sound like, welcome to the jungle, like a ventriloquist.
3:02:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:02:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that it would fuck with his voice, but he just sucks now.
3:02:21
SPEAKER_01: He's just lousy.
3:02:24
SPEAKER_01: And he doesn't belong at an Aerosmith thing.
3:02:27
SPEAKER_01: And if he's going to play at an Aerosmith thing, don't play your own songs.
3:02:33
SPEAKER_01: Everybody else knew not to play their own songs.
3:02:37
SPEAKER_01: Every other band played Aerosmith songs.
3:02:40
SPEAKER_01: Guns N' Roses played some Aerosmith songs, but then they couldn't just
3:02:46
SPEAKER_01: They couldn't just be like everybody else.
3:02:51
SPEAKER_01: They had to separate themselves by playing horseshit.
3:02:59
SPEAKER_01: Because quite honestly,
3:03:00
SPEAKER_01: what does Welcome to the Jungle and Paradise City have to do with Aerosmith at all?
3:03:06
SPEAKER_01: Anything?
3:03:06
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3:04:11
SPEAKER_01: Did they tour together?
3:04:13
SPEAKER_02: What, Aerosmith and GNR?
3:04:15
SPEAKER_02: Guns N' Roses?
3:04:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:04:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:04:17
SPEAKER_01: 80, what, seven?
3:04:19
SPEAKER_02: Somewhere around there.
3:04:20
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, I guess that would be the friendship part of it, I guess.
3:04:25
SPEAKER_01: But you're there celebrating Aerosmith.
3:04:30
SPEAKER_01: That would be like if Guns N' Roses had a going away show and fucking,
3:04:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, The Warning came out and played their own songs.
3:04:40
SPEAKER_01: It would just not make any sense.
3:04:41
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make sense.
3:04:43
SPEAKER_01: It's really dumb.
3:04:46
SPEAKER_01: But why do I think that Axl said we'll only play it if we can play our own songs?
3:04:51
SPEAKER_01: Probably.
3:04:52
SPEAKER_01: Why else would they be the only ones?
3:04:56
SPEAKER_01: Everybody else was probably like, hey, whatever, just glad to be here.
3:05:00
SPEAKER_01: And then this dick nozzle's like, well,
3:05:02
SPEAKER_01: you know,
3:05:02
SPEAKER_01: we need 14 dressing rooms and we need purple M&Ms and we got to play at least two
3:05:08
SPEAKER_01: of our songs.
3:05:14
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:05:15
SPEAKER_01: So let's get to Aerosmith.
3:05:19
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:05:20
SPEAKER_01: Who sounded okay.
3:05:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, I know when Steven Tyler played at the Aussie thing last year,
3:05:27
SPEAKER_02: he seemed to bring it pretty well.
3:05:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he sounded fine.
3:05:32
SPEAKER_01: You find me some Aerosmith.
3:05:36
SPEAKER_01: Aerosmith and Friends.
3:05:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's the whole two hours.
3:05:39
SPEAKER_01: Let's try this.
3:05:41
SPEAKER_01: I could pop over to the end.
3:05:46
SPEAKER_01: Is this the same one?
3:05:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, here we go.
3:05:54
[music]
3:07:10
[music]
3:07:20
SPEAKER_00: Los Angeles!
3:07:23
SPEAKER_00: City of the Angels!
3:07:27
SPEAKER_00: El Pueblo!
3:07:29
SPEAKER_00: And use candid
3:07:30
SPEAKER_01: people too!
3:07:31
SPEAKER_00: We're going to rock this place so hard you're going to think the big one is coming.
3:07:36
SPEAKER_00: And you're very well made.
3:07:40
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be tectonic, so this is the way it goes.
3:07:44
[music]
3:08:03
SPEAKER_01: What fucking giant store did he buy that maraca from?
3:08:07
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
3:08:09
SPEAKER_01: He's as big as a balloon.
3:08:12
SPEAKER_03: Do you like seeing Dave Grohl back there playing drums too?
3:08:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh, is that who that is?
3:08:16
SPEAKER_03: No.
3:08:18
SPEAKER_03: Because again, Dave Grohl can't miss one of these moments.
3:08:22
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
3:08:22
SPEAKER_03: He has to be there.
3:08:24
SPEAKER_02: When I'm not out cheating on my wife, I'm at every tribute show out there.
3:08:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm establishing myself with the establishment so that the wife will forgive me
3:08:34
SPEAKER_03: for sticking my dick in another chick.
3:08:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:08:37
SPEAKER_02: Plus, I have to support my illegitimate kid.
3:08:39
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
3:08:41
SPEAKER_03: Send my money from this show to that kid.
3:08:43
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:08:45
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
3:08:47
SPEAKER_00: All right.
3:08:51
[music]
3:10:27
SPEAKER_01: Sounds all right.
3:10:29
SPEAKER_01: Sounds like Aerosmith.
3:10:30
SPEAKER_01: Not great, but okay.
3:10:33
SPEAKER_02: They haven't played in years, so.
3:10:37
SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't have bugged me if they didn't come back either.
3:10:40
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, and not because they sound bad or anything like that, but this is another one.
3:10:46
SPEAKER_01: Just end it.
3:10:47
SPEAKER_01: Put it away.
3:10:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, they allegedly thought that that was the case.
3:10:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they can't stay away.
3:10:55
SPEAKER_01: Nope, they can't.
3:10:58
SPEAKER_01: And let's play a little more.
3:11:00
SPEAKER_00: Andrew Watt, Kenny Imus,
3:11:03
SPEAKER_00: the Wilson sisters in all the glory,
3:11:07
SPEAKER_00: Guns N' Roses,
3:11:08
SPEAKER_00: the Black Fucking Crows, and our hilarious host, Boston's own Bill Burr.
3:11:16
SPEAKER_00: And before we say goodnight,
3:11:18
SPEAKER_00: I just want to say that what a ride it's been with my brothers,
3:11:23
SPEAKER_03: Joe, Tom, Brad, and Joey.
3:11:27
SPEAKER_03: 55 fucking years.
3:11:29
SPEAKER_01: And we sing a fucking band that started 55 and a half
3:11:39
SPEAKER_00: years ago.
3:11:42
SPEAKER_00: Joey Kramer, right
3:11:49
SPEAKER_00: here.
3:12:03
SPEAKER_03: Joey Kramer must be on death's door.
3:12:08
SPEAKER_03: If they only brought him out for one fucking song.
3:12:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:12:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know,
3:12:12
SPEAKER_02: you know,
3:12:13
SPEAKER_02: when Aerosmith was doing that residency in Las Vegas a few years back and he wasn't
3:12:20
SPEAKER_02: with them.
3:12:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:12:21
SPEAKER_02: And he complained bitterly that he, quote unquote, had to audition.
3:12:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:12:26
SPEAKER_02: To get his own job, his own job back.
3:12:29
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
3:12:30
SPEAKER_02: So he must not be capable of,
3:12:34
SPEAKER_02: you know, pounding those skins like he needs to for an entire show.
3:12:39
SPEAKER_01: And now it's been five years or whatever.
3:12:41
SPEAKER_01: He probably hasn't played a lick.
3:12:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:12:44
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
3:12:45
SPEAKER_01: One song.
3:12:45
SPEAKER_01: They couldn't get him up to speed for six.
3:12:48
SPEAKER_01: But again, if they only announced it a few weeks ago.
3:12:54
SPEAKER_01: They might not have had time for him to get in shape.
3:12:57
SPEAKER_01: Again, Bill Ward,
3:12:59
SPEAKER_01: to go out and play those four Aussie tunes or whatever,
3:13:01
SPEAKER_01: he said he had to train for two or three months.
3:13:05
SPEAKER_01: So they may not have given him any heads up on this.
3:13:08
SPEAKER_01: They're like, you can show up if you want to, asshole.
3:13:13
SPEAKER_01: It's what it seems like, doesn't it?
3:13:15
SPEAKER_02: It does a little bit.
3:13:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, but,
3:13:17
SPEAKER_02: you know,
3:13:18
SPEAKER_02: there seems to be some strained relationship between him and the rest of the band.
3:13:27
SPEAKER_01: They brought him out there only to introduce him.
3:13:30
SPEAKER_01: Right.
3:13:31
SPEAKER_01: So that Tyler could say exactly that.
3:13:33
SPEAKER_01: Same guys we started with.
3:13:36
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's a convenient thing to say, considering how many changes they had in the middle.
3:13:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, they had quite a few changes in the middle.
3:13:46
SPEAKER_01: But I guess they all came back together.
3:13:48
SPEAKER_01: But there we go.
3:13:51
SPEAKER_01: A little more.
3:13:52
[music]
3:14:01
SPEAKER_00: Check this shit out.
3:14:02
[music]
3:14:14
SPEAKER_01: ... ...
3:14:15
SPEAKER_00: ... ...
3:14:17
[music]
3:14:58
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing more annoying when they fucking drop the beach balls.
3:15:02
SPEAKER_01: That fucking sucks when every band does it.
3:15:06
SPEAKER_01: Every time it sucks.
3:15:07
SPEAKER_02: It's a festive atmosphere.
3:15:09
SPEAKER_01: No, it's not.
3:15:10
SPEAKER_01: You big party pooper.
3:15:11
SPEAKER_01: It's a dumb and annoying thing.
3:15:14
SPEAKER_01: Every time.
3:15:18
SPEAKER_01: I got to give Steven Tyler credit, though.
3:15:19
SPEAKER_01: He's still in really great shape.
3:15:22
SPEAKER_01: He's like 78 years old or whatever.
3:15:25
SPEAKER_01: He's still running around the stage like he's 25.
3:15:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
3:15:28
SPEAKER_02: good for him.
3:15:30
SPEAKER_02: After being the toxic twins, he's somehow survived that so far.
3:15:36
SPEAKER_01: Who would have thought that after all that,
3:15:39
SPEAKER_01: that the guys that were kind of quiet in Aerosmith are the ones
3:15:42
SPEAKER_01: that are all fucked up?
3:15:45
SPEAKER_01: You would have thought for sure it would have been Tyler and Perry that would be
3:15:48
SPEAKER_01: a mess, and instead it's Joey Kramer and Tom Hamilton.
3:15:54
SPEAKER_01: You know,
3:15:54
SPEAKER_01: Kramer obviously can't play more than one song,
3:15:58
SPEAKER_01: or Kramer can't play more than one song, and Hamilton, he can't speak.
3:16:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what happened to him, but something with his tongue or something.
3:16:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, he had mouth cancer.
3:16:10
SPEAKER_01: Is that what it was, mouth cancer?
3:16:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, mm-hmm.
3:16:12
SPEAKER_01: I know that was one of the biggest mistakes of my life was agreeing to do
3:16:18
SPEAKER_01: that close enemies interview.
3:16:20
SPEAKER_01: And he was in it.
3:16:20
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, yeah, we'll accommodate.
3:16:23
SPEAKER_01: We'll accommodate.
3:16:24
SPEAKER_01: And he comes on and goes.
3:16:31
SPEAKER_03: I felt bad.
3:16:32
SPEAKER_03: I was.
3:16:33
SPEAKER_03: You know, I made such a stink to the publicist about getting
3:16:37
SPEAKER_01: him on.
3:16:38
SPEAKER_01: And the publicist was like, no, no, no, you'll.
3:16:41
SPEAKER_01: Really, he doesn't want to come on.
3:16:42
SPEAKER_01: I was like, no, I want him on.
3:16:45
SPEAKER_01: And then the speech was so bad
3:16:48
SPEAKER_03: that I literally just started directing every question to the other guys in
3:16:52
SPEAKER_03: the band, hoping that I wouldn't, because I didn't want to embarrass the man either.
3:16:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I get it.
3:16:59
SPEAKER_03: So literally,
3:16:59
SPEAKER_03: I switched from what was supposed to be a predominantly Tom Hamilton interview to
3:17:06
SPEAKER_03: a Tony Brock interview.
3:17:08
SPEAKER_03: Because at least he had history with, you know, Air Supply and Rod Stewart and whatever.
3:17:13
SPEAKER_03: Babies.
3:17:14
SPEAKER_03: So I just kind of twisted real quick and was asking every question
3:17:20
SPEAKER_01: to that guy.
3:17:21
SPEAKER_01: So that I didn't bring Hamilton in.
3:17:25
SPEAKER_01: But he, of course, still wanted to get, you know, because he's used to this shit.
3:17:29
SPEAKER_01: He wanted to answer.
3:17:30
SPEAKER_01: So every once in a while I'd be asking some question.
3:17:35
SPEAKER_01: That's right, Tom.
3:17:37
SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
3:17:40
SPEAKER_03: Not one of my best ones.
3:17:42
SPEAKER_03: People look it up, though.
3:17:42
SPEAKER_03: It's on Rumble.
3:17:44
SPEAKER_03: But here we go.
3:17:45
SPEAKER_03: A little more of Aerosmith.
3:17:47
[music]
3:19:09
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, you get the picture.
3:19:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, for a guy who was never supposed to be able to sing again, he sounds like Steve entirely.
3:19:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he sounds fine.
3:19:18
SPEAKER_01: And again,
3:19:20
SPEAKER_01: my bitch about this whole thing,
3:19:22
SPEAKER_01: and it's not really a bitch because obviously I wasn't there,
3:19:26
SPEAKER_01: but it just feels so haphazardly thrown together.
3:19:31
SPEAKER_01: And you see the fucking cameras and stuff floating around,
3:19:33
SPEAKER_01: so they're clearly recording this for some sort of a release.
3:19:39
SPEAKER_01: But what was the point of this?
3:19:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:19:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's no point to this.
3:19:46
SPEAKER_01: It's just a bunch of random guys coming together to do some Aerosmith music, I guess.
3:19:53
SPEAKER_01: Because nobody said anything to the contrary to that.
3:19:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe some promoter offered to do this.
3:20:04
SPEAKER_02: For a boatload of money.
3:20:05
SPEAKER_02: That's my point.
3:20:07
SPEAKER_02: And they agreed.
3:20:08
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, well, we'll assemble a boatload.
3:20:13
SPEAKER_02: You know, a bunch of things.
3:20:14
SPEAKER_02: We'll put a two-night show on.
3:20:16
SPEAKER_02: We'll sell tickets at $1,000 apiece, blah, blah, blah.
3:20:21
SPEAKER_01: Pay you guys $10 million or something to do.
3:20:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you guys get $10 million or whatever, and it's worth it to me.
3:20:31
SPEAKER_02: So it could be just a cash grab.
3:20:34
SPEAKER_01: I think it is.
3:20:35
SPEAKER_01: It has to be.
3:20:37
SPEAKER_01: It has to be.
3:20:39
SPEAKER_01: What else could it be?
3:20:41
SPEAKER_01: Would they really do it as final shows and not announce that it's the final shows?
3:20:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe it is.
3:20:47
SPEAKER_02: I think there's a couple of things behind it.
3:20:52
SPEAKER_02: I think it's testing the waters.
3:20:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dipping the
3:20:55
SPEAKER_02: toe.
3:20:57
SPEAKER_02: So we're not going to put on a 90-minute show as Aerosmith, but...
3:21:03
SPEAKER_02: You know,
3:21:03
SPEAKER_02: we'll put out a two hour show with Aerosmith and friends and we'll come out there
3:21:08
SPEAKER_02: and we'll see, uh,
3:21:10
SPEAKER_02: see how well, I mean,
3:21:11
SPEAKER_02: it's kind of like what Bon Jovi was doing after his vocal surgery and just kind
3:21:16
SPEAKER_02: of testing the waters,
3:21:18
SPEAKER_02: seeing if we can, you know, get by with doing the shows, do a residency.
3:21:25
SPEAKER_01: Do you think that's what this will end up being is like a sphere residency or something?
3:21:30
SPEAKER_02: It could be.
3:21:31
SPEAKER_02: They could be that, uh,
3:21:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, ginning up interest.
3:21:39
SPEAKER_02: If Steven is, you know, healed enough to go out there and actually do a 90-minute show.
3:21:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't get the feeling he is.
3:21:51
SPEAKER_01: Do you?
3:21:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he sounds fine, but I wonder how hard he would go.
3:22:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, after everything he's been through.
3:22:03
SPEAKER_01: How far would he be willing to push it to really fuck himself up again?
3:22:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but maybe not a night after night back-to-back show tour.
3:22:13
SPEAKER_02: Maybe kind of like what Metallica did with doing only weekend gigs.
3:22:20
SPEAKER_01: Right, and then having a day in between or something.
3:22:23
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know.
3:23:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
3:23:30
SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't it be something if we found out
3:23:31
SPEAKER_02: that Steven Tyler didn't have damaged vocal cords at all?
3:23:36
SPEAKER_02: He just faked it.
3:23:38
SPEAKER_02: They just faked it because there were some other issues going on.
3:23:42
SPEAKER_03: Just hated those guys so much he didn't want to do
3:23:44
SPEAKER_02: it anymore.
3:23:45
SPEAKER_02: Or a money issue or something.
3:23:50
SPEAKER_02: Because when he sang last year at the Aussie Tribute Day, he sounded great.
3:23:56
SPEAKER_02: And he sounds like Steven Tyler here,
3:23:59
SPEAKER_02: and he doesn't look like he's babying his voice or anything.
3:24:02
SPEAKER_01: No, it looks like he's bringing it.
3:24:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:24:05
SPEAKER_02: So it's just like, okay, is he miraculously healed, or was the whole voice thing a big farce?
3:24:16
SPEAKER_01: Could be, and he just wanted time off, too.
3:24:17
SPEAKER_01: He hadn't taken, I mean, when's the last time Aerosmith took a break?
3:24:21
SPEAKER_01: They're always working.
3:24:24
SPEAKER_01: It could be.
3:24:25
SPEAKER_01: Look, in this business, would anything shock me?
3:24:29
SPEAKER_01: No.
3:24:29
SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
3:24:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we know how business is in this thing.
3:24:33
SPEAKER_02: You don't get the truth.
3:24:35
SPEAKER_02: No, you never get the truth.
3:24:37
SPEAKER_02: You know, the people in general never get the real story, ever.
3:24:44
SPEAKER_01: No.
3:24:46
SPEAKER_01: So your prediction is what, 2027 string of shows?
3:24:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:24:53
SPEAKER_01: Summer?
3:24:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:24:56
SPEAKER_03: Going?
3:24:59
SPEAKER_03: No.
3:24:59
SPEAKER_03: It's going to be expensive.
3:25:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, of course it is.
3:25:03
SPEAKER_02: It ain't going to be cheap.
3:25:05
SPEAKER_02: I've seen Aerosmith at least eight times.
3:25:11
SPEAKER_02: I've seen him enough.
3:25:13
SPEAKER_02: I know the Aerosmith catalog.
3:25:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a big fan of the newer Aerosmith.
3:25:20
SPEAKER_02: 86 and up.
3:25:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Janie's got a gun, all that stuff.
3:25:27
SPEAKER_01: I like it, but not enough to see it now.
3:25:29
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
3:25:31
SPEAKER_01: I love that living on the
3:25:33
SPEAKER_02: edge record.
3:25:34
SPEAKER_02: I'll go from pump back.
3:25:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like to get a grip too, but that's where I stopped.
3:25:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:25:41
SPEAKER_01: I hated Nine Lives and Honking on Bobo was okay, but it wore out in about a minute.
3:25:47
SPEAKER_02: Just Push Play.
3:25:49
SPEAKER_01: Just Push Play was,
3:25:51
SPEAKER_01: anytime you're stealing artwork from fucking autograph, that's a fucking problem.
3:25:56
SPEAKER_01: Just Push Play was shit.
3:25:58
SPEAKER_01: That was just terrible.
3:26:00
SPEAKER_01: Which one had pink on it?
3:26:01
SPEAKER_01: Was that Nine Lives?
3:26:03
SPEAKER_01: That was another shit album.
3:26:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's another one.
3:26:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they had a lot of bad albums at the end.
3:26:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:26:10
SPEAKER_01: They did that one that was kind of good,
3:26:12
SPEAKER_01: like near the end, that back to the music dimension or whatever that was.
3:26:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
3:26:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
3:26:18
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember what it was called, but it was okay.
3:26:20
SPEAKER_01: It was pretty decent.
3:26:22
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, honestly, for most people, they cut
3:26:26
SPEAKER_03: off where you do it, pump.
3:26:28
SPEAKER_03: Most people don't even like pump.
3:26:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, like I said, pump back.
3:26:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I like pump.
3:26:35
SPEAKER_02: Permanent vacation, great album.
3:26:38
SPEAKER_01: I think Permanent Vacation was an okay album.
3:26:41
SPEAKER_01: I liked Done With Mirrors ten times more, even though those guys hated each other.
3:26:47
SPEAKER_01: That's why I liked it.
3:26:48
SPEAKER_02: It's a dysfunctional album.
3:26:52
SPEAKER_01: I love that Tyler was just screaming at Perry, my fist, your face, that's for sure.
3:26:58
SPEAKER_01: And you know that's how that song came about.
3:27:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:27:01
SPEAKER_01: Those two were fucking arguing and he just wrote it down, my fist, your face.
3:27:06
SPEAKER_01: That's for sure.
3:27:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, I love that record.
3:27:10
SPEAKER_01: I think that's the last truly great Aerosmith album in my eyes was done with mirrors.
3:27:19
SPEAKER_01: You think permanent vacation?
3:27:24
SPEAKER_02: No, I, I, I just,
3:27:25
SPEAKER_02: I just think that as far as like a solid Aerosmith release,
3:27:31
SPEAKER_02: I think, you know, this is when they finally, you know, got their footing again.
3:27:35
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
3:27:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had a real,
3:27:39
SPEAKER_01: I remember hating Angel,
3:27:42
SPEAKER_01: which is,
3:27:42
SPEAKER_01: I bought the tape,
3:27:44
SPEAKER_01: you know,
3:27:44
SPEAKER_01: I had the cassette, and I played the shit out of it like everybody else did.
3:27:49
SPEAKER_01: It was a huge record.
3:27:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was a big record.
3:27:53
SPEAKER_01: But I just remember Angel,
3:27:54
SPEAKER_01: I just didn't like that song,
3:27:55
SPEAKER_01: and I just was, I was kind of turned off by the whole thing there.
3:27:59
SPEAKER_01: But then they brought me back with Pump.
3:28:01
SPEAKER_01: I really, I liked Pump.
3:28:03
SPEAKER_01: I thought Pump was great.
3:28:04
SPEAKER_02: That's when I first saw Skid Row.
3:28:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I saw them on that tour too.
3:28:10
SPEAKER_02: They opened up for them.
3:28:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I saw that tour.
3:28:12
SPEAKER_01: Where did you see it?
3:28:13
SPEAKER_01: Here or somewhere else?
3:28:14
SPEAKER_02: No, I saw it at the LA Forum.
3:28:16
SPEAKER_01: I saw it here.
3:28:17
SPEAKER_01: It was really good.
3:28:19
SPEAKER_01: And then I personally, I know a lot of people don't seem to like it.
3:28:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why, but I really like Get a Grip.
3:28:27
SPEAKER_01: I thought Get a Grip was excellent for what they were doing at the time.
3:28:32
SPEAKER_01: You know, it was like not as soft.
3:28:35
SPEAKER_01: It had its soft moments, but it also had some real rocking songs on it.
3:28:42
SPEAKER_01: And I liked that record.
3:28:44
SPEAKER_01: But then after that, it was just over.
3:28:47
SPEAKER_01: Like you said, Just Push Play and Nine Lives.
3:28:51
SPEAKER_01: Those are some weak records.
3:28:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to miss a thing.
3:28:58
SPEAKER_01: Dude, the worst part about that song, Georgetta was real into that movie.
3:29:05
SPEAKER_01: So we would watch that.
3:29:06
SPEAKER_01: We actually owned the VHS of that movie.
3:29:10
SPEAKER_01: And she would watch that a lot, which meant I had to hear that fucking song a million times.
3:29:15
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you remember this or not, but the song doesn't only play in the credits.
3:29:22
SPEAKER_01: They also mix pieces of it into the movie.
3:29:26
SPEAKER_01: So when you're watching the movie,
3:29:28
SPEAKER_01: you get reminded two or three times before the end credits when
3:29:31
SPEAKER_03: they play the song.
3:29:33
SPEAKER_03: Of this shit song that's coming up.
3:29:36
SPEAKER_01: It's almost like, yeah, this shitty song.
3:29:39
SPEAKER_01: Another 30 minutes, it's going to
3:29:40
SPEAKER_03: be here.
3:29:42
SPEAKER_03: Another 20 minutes, it's going to be here.
3:29:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I hated that song.
3:29:48
SPEAKER_03: Don't want to close my eyes.
3:29:51
SPEAKER_03: Don't want to fall asleep.
3:29:53
SPEAKER_01: Because I miss you, babe.
3:29:59
SPEAKER_01: That's really gay.
3:30:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:30:02
SPEAKER_01: That's a really gay song.
3:30:07
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:30:07
SPEAKER_01: I think we're done.
3:30:08
SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
3:30:09
SPEAKER_02: Are we done?
3:30:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:30:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know,
3:30:11
SPEAKER_02: we could wait till the clocks go back and we could just give them another hour.
3:30:16
SPEAKER_01: No, we're not doing that.
3:30:19
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm done.
3:30:20
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you notice, I'm really struggling with my voice tonight.
3:30:25
SPEAKER_01: Got a little bit of laryngitis coming on.
3:30:27
SPEAKER_02: Must be that bronchial problem.
3:30:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:30:32
SPEAKER_03: Now that I'm waiting for an inhaler, I can't breathe now.
3:30:36
SPEAKER_02: Next thing you know, you're going to be carrying around those little tanks on a cart.
3:30:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
3:30:41
SPEAKER_01: That'll be me, the little thing in my nose.
3:30:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
3:30:46
SPEAKER_03: Feel better now, Neely.
3:30:51
SPEAKER_03: Let's do another hour, Neely.
3:30:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing good tonight.
3:30:56
SPEAKER_02: Am I doing another hour with Chips Enough or Jack Frost?
3:30:59
SPEAKER_02: That's right, Neely.
3:31:00
SPEAKER_02: Or Jack Frost?
3:31:02
SPEAKER_02: Both.
3:31:06
SPEAKER_03: Mostly Chip, though.
3:31:07
SPEAKER_02: It's Jack's Enough.
3:31:09
SPEAKER_03: It's Jack's Enough.
3:31:11
SPEAKER_03: I can't even do that
3:31:12
SPEAKER_02: damn voice.
3:31:14
SPEAKER_02: It's Chip Frost.
3:31:17
SPEAKER_01: Too funny.
3:31:19
SPEAKER_01: Bringing you the new thing, Neely.
3:31:21
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:31:24
SPEAKER_02: Did you read Chip's Afterword?
3:31:27
SPEAKER_03: I have not yet.
3:31:28
SPEAKER_02: Is it funny?
3:31:29
SPEAKER_02: It is.
3:31:30
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
3:31:30
SPEAKER_03: All right, I'll check it out.
3:31:31
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead.
3:31:33
SPEAKER_02: He goofed on us pretty good,
3:31:35
SPEAKER_02: but he was very complimentary, but he goofed on us at the same time.
3:31:41
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
3:31:42
SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding?
3:31:42
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
3:31:43
SPEAKER_02: It's hysterical.
3:31:45
SPEAKER_02: I actually laughed out loud when I read a couple of the lines he put in there.
3:31:49
SPEAKER_02: Did you text him?
3:31:51
SPEAKER_02: No, not yet.
3:31:52
SPEAKER_02: But he goes, those two cats have been around me forever.
3:32:01
SPEAKER_02: Like alley cats?
3:32:02
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:32:04
SPEAKER_02: Like you two cats.
3:32:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like he's a hipster.
3:32:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, he kind of is.
3:32:10
SPEAKER_02: He kind of is a little bit.
3:32:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's got that 60s groove, man.
3:32:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he does.
3:32:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it made me laugh.
3:32:19
SPEAKER_01: Those two cats have been around as long as I've been smoking pot and dating Deems.
3:32:25
SPEAKER_02: Those two cats have been around me forever.
3:32:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:32:28
SPEAKER_02: That's what he said.
3:32:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, he's not wrong.
3:32:32
SPEAKER_02: I know.
3:32:34
SPEAKER_01: That's funny, though.
3:32:35
SPEAKER_02: And Don did a nice job with the forward.
3:32:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was good.
3:32:39
SPEAKER_02: That was real good.
3:32:39
SPEAKER_02: That was very kind of him.
3:32:42
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
3:32:43
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:32:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's get out of here.
3:32:46
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:32:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to play some of your Monty Colvin, the Galactic Cowboys.
3:32:53
SPEAKER_02: Cool, cool.
3:32:55
SPEAKER_02: And this is for the King Trump, and he wants us to play the Liars.
3:33:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
3:33:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that's a message to us or not.
3:33:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
3:33:05
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, well, we're going to get out of here.
3:33:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to leave you with the Galactic Cowboys with the Liars.
3:33:10
SPEAKER_02: So until next Saturday night, this is Neely along with my very good friend.
3:33:16
SPEAKER_01: Chris Agan.
3:33:17
SPEAKER_02: And we're gone.
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