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Undefeated Vikings Face a Discipline and Field Position Test Against Detroit · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Welcome in to the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  I am your host, Bubba Starts.
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  You are here tonight for Tailgate Tuesday, recapping a big Minnesota Vikings win over the
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  Indianapolis Colts and looking ahead to the matchup against the Detroit Lions.
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  We got some special guests for you tonight.
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  Really excited about having on, a very special guest in the 09:00 hour to help us preview the
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  Detroit Lions game.
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  But as always, I am joined by my cohost, BigB.
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  What's happening, Bee?
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  Not much, man.
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  Just got the World Series game on behind me.
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  And we're gonna talk a six and o team, the only one.
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  That's right.
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  A lot to be excited about.
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  We know it wasn't pretty in, you know, mostly on the offensive side of the ball for this
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  Minnesota Vikings team.
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  Underwhelming is a is a term that I think I would use there, especially with Kyler.
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  14 to 24, just not good enough.
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  Some overthrows, some pretty ugly play overall.
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  But once again, they find a way to get the job done, and I don't think that any Vikings fan
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  can be disappointed about that.
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  Let's get coach Cody in here, our expert analysis.
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  Cody, we were there at the tailgate.
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  We watched the first quarter or most of it together.
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  Not a lot to get excited about early in that game, but what were your thoughts kind of, you
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  know, recapping and and and after rewatching everything?
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  You're on mute.
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  Hear me?
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  Yep.
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  We got you.
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  So first first of all, that, fourth down
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  call
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  right away at the beginning of the game, I get it, but you don't do that out of.
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  That was ridiculous.
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  Plus, I mean, before the play even started, you could tell, from the defensive alignment, it
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  wasn't ever gonna work.
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  Can't throw up you the wrong way, but this was a game that I thought the offense needed to
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  show, like, hey.
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  By week, we got it together.
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  You know, we're starting to click.
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  Let's go out and do it, and I just didn't see it.
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  Yeah.
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  It felt like a a half a step backwards.
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  The efficiency that we saw in New Orleans just not being there.
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  Jordan Mason, not as effective as you would hope, with the fresh legs.
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  Looks like he's got a little bit of rust that he needs to shake off yet.
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  Talked about that with rap on his show, on Sunday night that, you know, he said he just
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  looked maybe a little hesitant on his cuts, not quite there.
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  A little bit to be expected with a guy who barely got his season started, and then he's on
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  the IR for a little bit of time, getting up to game speed, not really having an opportunity to
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  do that.
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  So, obviously, there's room for improvement.
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  But at some point, as a Vikings fan now, you have to get...
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  Be getting a little bit tired of that.
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  You wanna see the improvement that you're doing.
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  Now I would say a couple notables.
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  Juwan Jennings has a pulse.
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  Got him involved in game.
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  Would have really liked to seen him come down with the one throw there and get turned around
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  and make that catch, which would have been a touchdown and probably change the...
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  It changes the narrative least in the moment about what this offense is doing and what they,
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  you know, are capable of moving forward.
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  But there was...
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  You know, once again, this defense historic...
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  We're gonna get into some numbers.
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  B sent me some stats that, I'm gonna be really excited to get into and, discuss with
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  everybody, later on in the stream here.
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  But Blake Cashman is an absolute madman out there.
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  He's everywhere making plays.
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  I don't think there's, enough talk going around.
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  You know, I heard I heard someone talking and and once again, shout out to our guy rap on the
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  vocal like, you know, brought up that, you know, think it was Achal who was talking about,
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  oh, well, this team doesn't have, you know, generational talent.
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  And I'm like, hold on.
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  Harry Smith's been playing for two generations.
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  What is he if not a generational talent?
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  What what is Blake Cashman if not...
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  He may not be the household name that some other players.
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  Right?
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  He doesn't have the Von Miller esque name to him that carries, but how do you not consider
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  these people the talent, that they are?
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  And the disrespect is just rampant with this Vikings team right now.
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  Well, I mean, the disrespect is there nationally, but Cashman, he's homegrown
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  product.
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  Everybody knows about him.
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  I know, born and raised in Minnesota, went to the, U of M.
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  Took a while to get to the Vikings, but, I mean, 12 tackles, two sacks, four PBUs.
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  He almost had a pick.
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  It would have been a pick six.
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  This guy's all over the place.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I'm a I'm a Cody.
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  I mean, homegrown talent.
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  Honestly, he might be one of the guys the Vikings are looking forward to replace Harrison
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  Smith as the guy on the field.
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  I mean, may...
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  You know, that might be something that, you know, as the captain out there.
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  I mean, he would...
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  I mean, he's been all over the place.
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  Every game, I think we hear his name, you know, close to the ball or on the ball.
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  But, yeah, the guy was just a beast on on Sunday.
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  Yeah.
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  It was another impressive performance by this defense, and we talked about Harrison Smith
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  gets number 40, this year.
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  I I thought it was really telling, in an interview that he had done where he talked
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  about playing golf with with Ronde Barber this year.
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  Obviously, Ronde has his gold jacket, Super Bowl champion, incredible talent in the league.
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  And Ronde looked at him, and, obviously, I've talked extensively about my, one interaction
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  that I got to have with Ronde Barber.
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  But, you know, he's going, hey.
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  Like, why are you sitting here?
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  Like, why are you even leaving it a question, man?
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  Like, what are you doing here playing golf?
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  Get out on the field and go get it.
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  And to get that one to seal the game and then run out there and to drop the ball on the 40
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  yard line for that iconic photo.
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  No.
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  Just only really he can.
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  Just really great to to have that moment to finish off the game.
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  Very fitting with how this season has gone, And really excited for Harry.
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  Personal accolades, know probably don't mean a whole lot to the guy, but being part of a very
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  elite club on that defensive side of the ball.
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  I mean, he was already first ballot hall of famer.
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  I don't think a lot of people would push back on that, but this, I really think, cements
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  that, not leaving anything to chance sitting on 39 for your career, getting that 49.
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  He said a week before he signed, there's an interview that his daughter asked him when he
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  was gonna go back to Minnesota.
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  And he's like, I don't know, dear.
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  You know, I'm I'm getting the itch, though.
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  So he said him and his wife talked about it, and she was okay with it.
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  So that's why he signed to get number 40, go out there one last time, go on your own terms.
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  Yeah.
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  He should be the first ballot of the hall of famer.
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  He definitely should be, you know, wearing the purple, get in the ring of honor.
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  I mean, anything coming to him, he...
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  He's earned.
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  I mean
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  Well...
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  And and if you would ask him, there's probably only one thing left on the list now, and that's
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  to raise the Lombardi.
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  Right?
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  To to raise it, to get that ring, to have that next to your name, Super Bowl champion, it
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  means a lot to these guys, and especially people who have done it for a a couple of
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  decades.
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  Right?
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  It's really incredible.
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  And you know that they're chasing it.
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  You know
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  guys
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  like him and then Aaron Jones who...
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  You know, I I don't think Aaron ended up getting one anywhere in his career stops out
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  there.
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  So, you know, guys that are towards the tail ends of their careers, seeing that going, you
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  know, hey.
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  There's really only one thing left that I'm I'm playing for.
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  Right?
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  You know, it's the guys next to me.
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  Yes.
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  But it it...
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  It's to chase that championship.
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  Yeah.
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  It's to it's to it's to get the ring like Cody pointed to his finger.
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  You know, some of them actually just wanna play in the big games.
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  I mean, yes, they wanna win, but they wanna be able to say, played in the biggest game of my
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  career.
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  And, you know, so Well, you can't win it if you don't get there.
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  And I
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  see now That's Charles Barkley.
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  In that locker room has to be, focused on that before we kinda glaze into our our next topic,
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  which I wanna get into as we've watched a couple of trades happen today and targets that
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  I think all of us had talked about in Vikings media right now.
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  But we released before the horn, our Skullfest documentary this week.
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  You can go find it on our Roku channel, channel eight eighty eight, or search SPSN on your Roku
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  device.
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  Go check that out.
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  We had a great time with the guys from Skullfest, the aforementioned rap, SK, the g g
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  podcast, our guy Brevi, Bright Lights, so many people, Skull Mafia, who's always in the chat
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  with us as well.
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  These guys gave us an opportunity to get on and absolutely knocked it out of the park.
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  I I think the the documentary came out really well.
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  Viking Gaming, great to have you, brother.
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  Appreciate the new channel, making sure we're subscribing over there.
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  Congratulations to you on your content.
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  We're gonna have to get you on the show with us here soon too, brother.
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  We appreciate you tapping in with us tonight.
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  Make sure you subscribe.
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  Make sure you guys go check out the Roku channel where we have all of our replays going
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  out there, interviews that we've done with people from not just the NFL, but we have our
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  our NHL show, our NBA show, everything happening, the golf show coming out with some
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  great content as we head into the holidays as well.
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  So a shout out to our guy, Pods, who is on the ones and twos for us on Sunday.
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  Coach and I were there in the lot at 903 Washington Avenue South.
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  And something we touched on, you know, all last week and really during the bye week as well
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  was, are the Vikings going to add to this roster?
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  And then we have the news today.
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  Quentin Nelson traded over to the Seattle Seahawks and then DeForest Buckner getting
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  traded to the San Francisco forty niners, which is just...
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  I don't wanna say that I'm upset about it that we didn't get either one of these guys, but to
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  see both of them go to people that we could potentially see in the playoffs and have to go
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  face both of these guys again, possibly both of them in back to back weeks maybe with how
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  things end up shaking out, like, that's...
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  That doesn't really...
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  That's Well, we'll see
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  one of them in a couple weeks.
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  Well, exactly.
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  You're gonna see DeForest Buckner in Mexico City who a guy that was a big part of why this
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  offense couldn't get going on Sunday against the Colts.
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  And to know that you're gonna have him on a much better team in San Francisco, and it
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  just...
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  Man, you got it, brother.
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  There there it is right there.
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  That we we...
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  I don't wanna say that we missed out because I feel like this team is good enough.
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  And it was something that Rob brought up with us in our private chat.
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  Shout out to Rob Haspel, sir Rocker, who we got to spend Sunday with is if you add someone like
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  that in, who's kind of the odd man out on your roster?
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  And I think that you're very happy, obviously, with the development of Big Citrus and of, you
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  know, Kayla Banks and these other guys that are in their, you know, second and third years,
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  Jalen Redman becoming a a a household name on the defensive line, but you also can't deny
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  that a few of these guys got dog walked in the running game on Sunday, and it was a big reason
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  why Jonathan Taylor ended up having the game that he had.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  You're right.
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  I mean, it is something that you don't wanna see two teams get better that you're gonna be
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  facing possibly down the road, especially in the regular season.
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  And that...
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  And that's one thing with...
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  It seems like with a lot of Minnesota teams, it's just like, could we add a piece?
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  Where are gonna add it?
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  And then they decide not to do nothing.
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  And, you know, and then everybody else gets better around you.
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  So, they...
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  I mean, they must know what they're doing.
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  Maybe they'll surprise somebody here.
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  In the next few days.
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  They got, what, fifteen days until the trade deadline, the tenth, I think it is.
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  Mhmm.
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  One name that came up last week in all of it was Vida Vay.
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  I was gonna...
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  I was gonna to say something quick about a rap comment, our buddy rap.
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  He wants to know where Odell Beckham is.
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  I mean, we signed him and the
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  same thing.
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  Yeah.
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  But, hey, real quick.
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  You know, with the seahawks making the moves that they did, I mean, it just speaks to and
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  credits Nolan Teasley.
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  I mean, you make moves like that based off of a couple year plan.
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  And, I mean, they got how many compensatory picks because of, free agent sleep in this
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  year.
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  They got a three...
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  A third round pick because we got, Teasley as GM.
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  I mean, they just were gathering ammo.
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  This was preplanned.
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  We just gotta relax, let Teasley do his thing.
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  Well, think that the the depth of this draft coming up, no doubt, has something to do with
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  why they don't wanna move picks.
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  Right now, you're looking at an aging, you know, defense and Jettas as Skull says here,
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  not getting any younger.
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  You need to replenish some depth.
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  I don't know.
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  You know, they have Jordan Addison signed to that fifth year option, and a lot of people in
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  Minnesota are very high on Jordan Addison.
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  Unfortunate that his big play of the game gets called back on the penalty there because he
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  could really use the bumps in his stats right now to make his case for a contract extension
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  that just hasn't been there.
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  But, yeah, where's Odell where's Odell Beckham?
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  I don't think anybody really expected him to make that big of a splash on the team anyway.
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  So is that someone who's almost in an emergency status should a Juwan Jennings trade happen?
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  Right now, I think you're trying to boost that value a little bit, and and maybe it's addition
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  by subtraction a little bit, that...
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  I I don't think that's true, Skull.
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  I I don't think that he's someone who's gonna want to, just up and leave.
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  It just doesn't seem that way to me.
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  He doesn't seem like that kind of player.
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  Awesome.
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  Yeah.
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  And that was
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  actually brought up on 2.2
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  the last couple days is, you know, the quarterback situation and, you know, how much
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  more can Jenna take before he starts talking and wants out.
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  And a lot of people said what you said, Bubba.
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  I don't see him going public with it.
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  He'll probably go behind doors and say it.
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  So He's also on a...
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  He's also on the only undefeated team in the league right now.
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  So I I don't know how much it matters.
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  If championships are what matter to players, I I don't know that it's like, well, I'm not
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  getting mine and knowing it it has to come eventually.
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  Right?
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  But it's crazy to sit here and and to feel...
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  And I don't know what the comparison is to last season, but it doesn't feel like he's having
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  much better than
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  thousand yards right now.
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  He's on the same pace he was last year.
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  Right.
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  So, I mean, I know he's had more touchdowns or already matched his touchdown total from last
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  year.
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  You have to imagine that it's going to get there, but we've also been saying that for six,
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  seven weeks now.
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  So Yeah.
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  No.
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  It's it's gonna be tough, and this was a game I thought...
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  I I think you said at the beginning, Bubba.
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  We thought the Vikings were gonna come out and build out what they did with the Saints.
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  And, I mean, it started off good.
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  I mean, nice run back by the returner.
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  I can't think of his name right now.
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  Miles Price.
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  Yeah.
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  Price to open up the game, and then, like you said, four and out right away and a
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  questionable fourth down call.
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  Maybe maybe the play was just maybe we should've called something different, but,
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  yeah, the lines are coming up and, you know, this is where the next four out of five games
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  are gonna be a, you know, a tough one, and we're gonna see what this team's about.
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  Well, you brought on special teams.
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  My question to you guys is, we finally...
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  Well, not finally, but Will Reichard missed a field goal?
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  No.
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  Blocked.
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  It's not his fault.
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  Okay.
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  Blocked.
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  Alright.
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  I'm...
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  I feel bad, but I'm kinda...
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  I wish he would've kicked it and missed it just to get that out of the way.
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  Is that wrong in your guys' opinion?
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  Or Well, he he beat the team record.
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  Right?
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  He beats Gary Anderson's record, ties it in, beats it during the game before that gets
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  blocked.
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  Nice to have it over so it's not a talking point.
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  Right?
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  It's not a sticking point moving forward.
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  It's kind of over.
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  He missed this one for the year, and and you move on and start another streak.
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  Right?
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  So I hope he doesn't have to kick another 40 field goals this season.
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  Well, because right now, he's our only source of offense.
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  So maybe I do hope that he kicks 40 field goals this year so we can, you know, forecast that
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  we're gonna we're gonna win some games.
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  But it's definitely hard right now as a lot of, you know, everyone in Vikings media and in the
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  national media as well are, you know, really questioning and not gonna put any stocks into
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  this Vikings team until the offense is able to show up and to look competent.
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  And 14 of 24 for a 100, 50 yards with the one touchdown.
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  Now I will say no turnovers again.
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  Taking care of the football, pretty paramount.
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  So I can appreciate that, but I expect it better.
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  I didn't expect them to come out and have to throw for 300 plus yards.
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  That's never the expectation, but the overthrows to Mason a couple of times, a couple
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  of other misses.
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  If some of those are turned into catches, we maybe have a different a different vibe around
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  this team this week.
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  But you you expected, and I know I expected after the bye week for them to be a little bit
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  sharper.
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  And I don't know why I expected that because, historically, Kevin O'Connell's teams do not
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  play well out of the buy.
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  So the fact that they came away with a win, I think, is probably a positive that we can lean
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  on.
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  I don't know what the, you know, what the protocol is for buy weeks in this KOC system
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  and around his teams, but it's historically not been good.
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  But you're able to come out with the victory.
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  You remain undefeated.
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  The two other undefeated teams in the league suffer losses, and you remain at the top.
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  And still, with guys like Colin Cowherd, not even in their top 10 rankings.
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  It's like a team doesn't even exist in Minnesota.
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  Well, and and that's...
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  And that's all credit to the offense.
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  I mean, if the offense was putting up points and the defense was doing their job, then
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  there's no way that you can keep us out of the top five at least.
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  But, you know, the lack of office is what's keeping us out of national recognition in the
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  top list of everything.
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  Because they'll talk about the defense all day long and say how record breaking pace this team
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  is on, but it's the offense that's is holding them back.
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  So Well...
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  And we're gonna get into some numbers there just to kinda wrap up the the the topics around
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  additions before the bye week, is there a player that they add, to this?
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  A lot of talk about Jonathan Taylor and even some fake reports coming out after the game
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  that Jonathan Taylor wasn't on the team playing and and and different things like this.
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  Is there an addition that can be made that moves that needle, or is it just that they need
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  to kinda settle in?
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  And I guess, coach, I'll I'll throw it to you because you've had experience with teams.
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  Now, your teams as of late have just kinda steamrolled a lot of the the teams that they've
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  played against.
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  But is there something to just having time on task with the players that you have that can be
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  the improvement and not necessarily having someone come from the outside.
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  That is that shot in the arm.
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  Yeah.
• 21:55
  Time on task, building that chemistry.
• 21:58
  I mean, you gotta be able to trust the person next to you when it comes down to it.
• 22:03
  And you can have all the talent in the world, but if you can't trust somebody, it doesn't
• 22:07
  do
• 22:07
  a damn thing.
• 22:09
  So, I mean, I I think, yeah, I would be delighted for us to bring in another running
• 22:16
  back just because, you know, I don't I don't mind her depth.
• 22:21
  I think Claiborne's got it.
• 22:22
  He just needs a shot.
• 22:24
  But if we can stay healthy, we'd be alright.
• 22:28
  Yeah.
• 22:28
  I would've loved to see JT.
• 22:29
  If they ain't given up if they ain't giving up a third and next year's fifth for Quentin
• 22:34
  Nelson, you...
• 22:36
  JT gonna cost you a second plus.
• 22:39
  And I don't...
• 22:40
  It ain't happening.
• 22:41
  It just isn't happening.
• 22:43
  Is it Tony Pollard maybe on the table if you can get him for a four?
• 22:47
  We don't have a fourth, so a fifth rounder plus a fifth and another
• 22:51
  Third
• 22:51
  future fifth.
• 22:53
  Right?
• 22:53
  Late Yeah.
• 22:54
  I don't know.
• 22:55
  Because
• 22:55
  even
• 22:56
  Tony Pollard, I mean, I'd take him.
• 22:57
  Just add depth back there.
• 22:59
  If you're not gonna just then we gotta add a third guy.
• 23:02
  Well...
• 23:03
  And, Cody, you you kinda said it in in the moment as, Aaron Jones went down awkwardly on
• 23:11
  that run.
• 23:11
  We already know that he's praying with a sprained MCL, the way that he went down on it.
• 23:16
  They're talking his day to day.
• 23:18
  I kinda set out of the buy.
• 23:20
  You know?
• 23:20
  Hey.
• 23:21
  Like, just just give him or, like, healthy scratch him.
• 23:24
  Right?
• 23:24
  Like, he doesn't have to go on IR.
• 23:25
  You don't have to do anything like that.
• 23:28
  But can you just, like, give the guy a rest?
• 23:30
  I think it's coming.
• 23:32
  You you hate to see it come in a pivotal moment now as you're going to Detroit to take on
• 23:37
  alliance team that's playing very well.
• 23:39
  They beat the hated Green Bay packers, you know, on Sunday afternoon.
• 23:44
  I definitely had a good time listening to that game on the way home because, hey.
• 23:49
  You know, pretty well, I mean, I I definitely...
• 23:51
  Like, I want the packers to lose more, but either team lose there.
• 23:55
  It it...
• 23:55
  It's it's fun regardless.
• 23:56
  And to see them kinda go back and forth against one another, I...
• 24:01
  Once again, not scared by these teams.
• 24:03
  Either one of them don't really strike fear into me because this historic defense.
• 24:10
  Yeah.
• 24:10
  I think I think coach is on to something that I think you...
• 24:14
  You're just staying pat.
• 24:16
  Yeah.
• 24:16
  Maybe if you get...
• 24:17
  You know, what school said, maybe if you get a right price for a running back, you know, but
• 24:23
  the next guy has gotta step up.
• 24:24
  I mean, you know, we drafted the Claiborne to hopefully produce.
• 24:31
  He's not with it right now or they're just, you know, dragging them along and letting them
• 24:37
  learn the offense before we see the explosive cup come in.
• 24:41
  But with Jones and and Madison both...
• 24:44
  Or Mason both already been on the IR and missed some time, you know, running back would be the
• 24:51
  place I would look to improve.
• 24:53
  But, hey.
• 24:54
  If we stay pat, we stay pat, and, you know, let's just keep it rolling.
• 24:59
  I mean, one game at a time.
• 25:02
  Well...
• 25:02
  And it's where are you going to subtract from the lineup that you have?
• 25:07
  I think they're very happy with the team.
• 25:09
  As it sits right now, you aren't trading a player for a player.
• 25:13
  So it's who's getting caught.
• 25:15
  And I think DJ Dallas, because of what he adds on the special teams and can be that versatile
• 25:20
  player, that I think a lot of other teams would be happy to add him as well.
• 25:26
  So you don't really want to ride the, the the chance of letting someone like that, trying to,
• 25:32
  you know, put him through to the practice squad or cutting him and then not having that option.
• 25:36
  It's a lot different than the punter that we kind of, you know, said said down and cut and
• 25:41
  kept bringing him back early in the season.
• 25:43
  DJ Dallas, I think, especially with the way that he's played this year, is a little bit of
• 25:48
  a different animal.
• 25:49
  So Yeah.
• 25:49
  So as you know, Quinn, the...
• 25:52
  Was more I was more
• 25:53
  disappointed
• 25:54
  today, and disappointed is probably a strong word.
• 25:56
  I I was a little more upset to see Quentin Nelson, not come over than, the Forrest Buckner
• 26:03
  because I thought he could've not...
• 26:04
  Not only this year, but you could've, you know, added him an extra.
• 26:07
  And maybe it's a case of, hey.
• 26:08
  Let Seattle go ahead and and, you know, trade for him.
• 26:13
  Maybe he doesn't stay there long term.
• 26:15
  Maybe they don't have the money to pay him, and they're willing to rent him, and you're making
• 26:19
  a move to get a guy like that onto your team in the off season, and there's a longer play here.
• 26:24
  You are trying to build a championship contender for years out there, but Yeah.
• 26:29
  You know?
• 26:29
  Yeah.
• 26:29
  We'll definitely
• 26:30
  I mean, running back o line sick or secondary, I don't wanna mess with any part of that
• 26:37
  secondary or the defense.
• 26:39
  The defense is solid.
• 26:40
  I don't wanna interrupt anything on there.
• 26:42
  So, yeah, I I definitely go with the running back or o line if we're making a move.
• 26:49
  Unless we're bringing Winfield over or someone
• 26:52
  brings
• 26:53
  Harrison Smith next year, I don't want him to be part of it.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  What's good, Selly?
• 26:58
  I know you were excited to see the Vikings win on Sunday.
• 27:02
  What's up, gentlemen?
• 27:03
  Yeah.
• 27:04
  I was after my jets laid an egg to the dolphins, so we don't have to talk about it on
• 27:09
  this broadcast.
• 27:10
  Yeah.
• 27:10
  It was the the
• 27:11
  Vikings.
• 27:14
  Well, it just makes that draft pick that much better.
• 27:16
  Right?
• 27:16
  So
• 27:18
  And it looks like the colts now are punting on any one of any talent on their team whatsoever.
• 27:23
  Yeah.
• 27:24
  So if Sauce wasn't hurt, they might be trading him again.
• 27:28
  Yeah.
• 27:28
  I know.
• 27:29
  Sauce.
• 27:30
  Three pick 13 right now.
• 27:34
  Pretty incredible.
• 27:35
  Well, B, I I really wanna kick it over to you for this next section here.
• 27:41
  And, Selly, we can definitely come back to you, get some of your thoughts here.
• 27:45
  But B sent me a bunch of stats today comparing the Vikings to the legends.
• 27:51
  So, B, I'm gonna kinda let you lead.
• 27:52
  I'll put the tables up on the screen and slide us off to the side here, but So kinda let you
• 27:58
  go through it and, you know, guide us through here.
• 28:01
  Yeah.
• 28:02
  So we all considered and and it...
• 28:05
  By stats, the 84...
• 28:07
  85 bears and the 2,000 ravans are the probably two best defenses around, and it and it shows.
• 28:16
  So I want to compare where the Vikings are sitting at compared to those guys.
• 28:21
  And, I mean, they're they're right there.
• 28:23
  I mean, as you can see there, the bears started off six and o.
• 28:27
  And then this is what the first six games.
• 28:29
  So six and o, Ravens are five and one, and, of course, Vikings are six and o.
• 28:34
  Point differential, you know, everybody's plus.
• 28:37
  You know, the bears, you know, plus 91.
• 28:40
  I mean, that's just ridiculous.
• 28:42
  But, you know, Vikings are right there in third.
• 28:46
  Points allowed per game, you know, 12.3.
• 28:51
  I mean, that...
• 28:51
  That's pretty good for a defense for the first six games.
• 28:56
  Total total yards allowed.
• 28:58
  You know, Ravens, you know, there are ballhawks all over the place.
• 29:02
  The bears, I don't know how they were six and o with the 315 yards allowed.
• 29:09
  But, you know...
• 29:10
  And then, of course, the Vikings are leading the pass.
• 29:13
  You can't you can't get a pass on the Vikings right now through six games, and that Ravens
• 29:18
  defense on the rush.
• 29:19
  You know?
• 29:20
  So, you know, we're giving up a little bit more rushing yards per game than, you know, the
• 29:26
  Ravens, but we're hanging around with the Bears.
• 29:29
  Takeaways, you know, we're not get...
• 29:31
  We're not taking the ball away, but we're also not turning it over in the sacks.
• 29:36
  I mean, we're right there, you know, a little bit ahead of the bears in the sack department,
• 29:42
  but three...
• 29:43
  Almost four sacks a game through the first six.
• 29:46
  I mean, this defense is legit, and, you know, we'll we'll get our trailer on and, you know,
• 29:53
  see what his thoughts are, what the lines...
• 29:56
  Or Vikings lines coming up.
• 29:58
  But, yeah, that defense, you know, is on record pace to be one of the greats.
• 30:06
  Well, some of these stats from that 2,000 Ravens team are absolutely insane.
• 30:11
  3.3 takeaways per game to average that over a season is wild, and 50.7 rush yards is is
• 30:19
  absolutely Oh, yeah.
• 30:21
  Bananas.
• 30:22
  I don't think we're gonna get to those levels just with how things have already gone this
• 30:27
  season and a different era of football completely.
• 30:29
  I think there's so many more talent.
• 30:31
  Selly and I talk about it a lot in the NBA, but the NFL as well.
• 30:35
  The talent level is so much higher across the board that that it's really tough to repeat
• 30:42
  some of these numbers, but this is crazy.
• 30:45
  I mean,
• 30:46
  the only The offense could help the
• 30:48
  offense could help with that point differential if they would just be confident.
• 30:51
  And and the one thing I would I would like to see improve, everything else if stage packed,
• 30:57
  would definitely be the takeaways.
• 30:59
  I mean, we definitely got to get that ball back at crucial times.
• 31:04
  You know, we can't miss those opportunities.
• 31:07
  It's kinda like baseball.
• 31:08
  If they give you that chance, you know, don't lose out on an error or whatever.
• 31:13
  Don't go over the lie...
• 31:14
  Next out.
• 31:15
  If we can get a takeaway, that's where I'd like to see us improve.
• 31:19
  Everything else, I mean, they're right there.
• 31:23
  Well, our
• 31:24
  defense was like, yeah, we won 16 to 10.
• 31:28
  But, I mean, the Colts were averaging 24 points again.
• 31:32
  Yep.
• 31:33
  They just put up 30 against the Chiefs, 22 against the steelers.
• 31:39
  Only 10 points against the Vikings, zero in the second half.
• 31:42
  Daniel Jones only had a 108 yards passing, you know, four sacks.
• 31:48
  I think pretty sure they had net 64 yards passing as an offense.
• 31:54
  Like, we we were doing it on, on the passing side, but Really?
• 31:59
  Not Jonathan Taylor.
• 32:00
  You're only gonna be able to contain him.
• 32:02
  You're not gonna be able to stop.
• 32:05
  Yeah.
• 32:05
  And and there is just...
• 32:09
  We're the top three of all three categories between us three teams.
• 32:13
  You know?
• 32:13
  So this was just...
• 32:14
  You know?
• 32:15
  So, I mean, like I said, if we could get those takeaways up there, the sky's the only one for
• 32:21
  this defense, and we just need the offense to pick up the pace a little bit.
• 32:27
  What I have loved is the timeliness of the turnovers.
• 32:31
  It seems like in the big moments when you need one, you're getting it.
• 32:36
  I think that's something that can't be understated.
• 32:39
  Big time players make big time plays and big time moments.
• 32:43
  And I think you have those, you know, you have those players.
• 32:47
  Harry stepping up into the lane and getting that pick to kinda seal the game on Sunday as a
• 32:53
  great, case in point for this exactly.
• 32:57
  So, I think it's pretty huge what they've been able to do.
• 33:01
  Although the numbers and the averages aren't necessarily up there, it only takes one game
• 33:06
  where you go out and and have three, four turnovers in the game, to to flip that on its
• 33:11
  head as well.
• 33:13
  Yeah.
• 33:17
  So, I mean, they're they're right.
• 33:19
  Everybody's right.
• 33:19
  The defense is on a record setting pace to be one of the top five defenses of all time.
• 33:27
  I think once we get the turnover or up there in the offensive.
• 33:32
  If the office...
• 33:33
  I think we agree, and I think national media, if you agree, the office would just do
• 33:39
  offensive things.
• 33:40
  I mean, yeah, they're not turn at all, but if the boys would not rely on our kicker, We're at
• 33:47
  the Please be a good team.
• 33:52
  Yeah.
• 33:52
  So we gotta get you a new
• 33:54
  Internet router, the...
• 33:56
  Where it's
• 33:57
  like, I I already know what's on the Christmas list for you, buddy.
• 34:01
  Yeah.
• 34:02
  You know what?
• 34:02
  The the almost four sacks a game is absolutely massive.
• 34:07
  And what this means is that quarterbacks aren't even getting a chance to make a bad decision
• 34:12
  and throw the ball up for a bad takeaway.
• 34:15
  They are they are going down with the ship, which is creating the favorable field position
• 34:21
  that we've been getting and then not turning the ball over on the offensive side of the ball
• 34:26
  has really allowed it to just be time of possession, field position, defense wins
• 34:32
  championships.
• 34:33
  And then if your offense finally comes around, which, I I mean, we've seen the worst.
• 34:40
  Right?
• 34:40
  Like, it can't get it can get worse, but I feel like there is a there is a level and a standard
• 34:46
  that they're holding right now, and you you only have up to go.
• 34:51
  You don't have a quarterback back there playing YOLO ball and and putting the ball at risk.
• 34:57
  So I feel like there is a...
• 35:01
  At least an inkling of improvement that's possible where, you know, in years past, you
• 35:09
  haven't necessarily had that.
• 35:10
  And you do have something that we definitely haven't had around, that is the, the
• 35:18
  elusiveness and the athletic ability of Kyler Murray back there and being able to really
• 35:24
  change a game with his legs at any point.
• 35:26
  You know?
• 35:27
  The the 30 plus yard scramble that sets up the Hawkinson touchdown in the fourth quarter, that
• 35:33
  we...
• 35:34
  This team has never really had that, in in their history.
• 35:38
  So I I think that there is reason to be, if not bullish, at least slightly optimistic that
• 35:46
  things can come around here.
• 35:48
  But, yeah, I...
• 35:49
  This is incredible.
• 35:51
  I mean, another game where I...
• 35:53
  What did Daniel Jones...
• 35:54
  64 yards of passing?
• 35:56
  Or or...
• 35:58
  Unreal what they've been able to do with their passing defense.
• 36:03
  It's been absolutely incredible.
• 36:05
  Well...
• 36:05
  And then, you know, you gotta keep your defense fresh, especially late game.
• 36:10
  And just with us being second in the league, for time possession, that keeps them fresh.
• 36:16
  You know, has a good rotation going on right now, so, hopefully, we can keep it...
• 36:21
  That going.
• 36:23
  Field position through special teams, it doesn't show up on the stat sheet, but that's
• 36:27
  also important.
• 36:28
  That's that's been playing a big, big part.
• 36:33
  Sallie, would love to just hear, your thoughts.
• 36:36
  I know you're watching intently, on Sunday and probably have watched the game back again or at
• 36:42
  least the highlights again.
• 36:43
  What, stood out to you from the the Vikings against the Colts?
• 36:50
  Well, obviously, the defense for sure again just just doing a great job.
• 36:55
  I'm a speak it into existence.
• 36:56
  Be Flo, next Jets coach.
• 36:58
  I'm a just say it, I think, every week on No.
• 37:01
  I'll be the bad guy and say it every week.
• 37:06
  Besides him just doing another great job, I think, honestly, it looked like they were
• 37:11
  starting to get Justin involved a little bit more, and then it kinda went away.
• 37:14
  And it looked like they were getting chunks and moving the ball.
• 37:19
  The defense is just unbelievable.
• 37:21
  Like, those numbers be put up are just insane.
• 37:24
  Like, the the passing yards allowed, which was, like, less than even, like, the 85 bears of the
• 37:31
  2,000, like, when they weren't even really passing the ball like they do now, it's just
• 37:35
  nuts.
• 37:36
  It just...
• 37:36
  Everybody gets confused, blitzing everywhere...
• 37:39
  Blitzing from everywhere, people standing up at the line of scrimmage, you don't know where
• 37:44
  any...
• 37:44
  Who's coming, who's dropping.
• 37:47
  It's just overall impressive.
• 37:49
  And then, like you said, Harrison Smith with the turnover at the end, when it look...
• 37:53
  Because they were...
• 37:53
  It was a sloppy win.
• 37:54
  It was a sloppy win.
• 37:56
  Didn't really have the lead until the end just to battle the whole game.
• 38:02
  I I know we keep saying it, but, like, I don't I don't know when the offense is gonna pick up.
• 38:05
  I don't know whose fault it is anymore.
• 38:08
  Is it Kyler's fault?
• 38:10
  Is it Kevin O'Connell's fault?
• 38:12
  And, again, I know he shall not be named on this pod, but up here, the guy, he had a great
• 38:18
  game on Sunday, and they're going on the giant side.
• 38:22
  So it's another big topic up here.
• 38:25
  Yeah.
• 38:25
  Yeah.
• 38:26
  And I'm gonna push back a little bit, on Viking gaming.
• 38:29
  I have no reason to believe that this defense can't do this.
• 38:33
  Barring an injury to a cashman, which has been known to happen, and and does have a history of
• 38:40
  that.
• 38:40
  Now I'll knock on a little bit of wood there, but I have no reason to believe that a healthy
• 38:44
  Vikings defense can't continue to perform at this level.
• 38:48
  It just...
• 38:49
  I'm not going to...
• 38:51
  I have less confidence in the offense being able to get it together because they just
• 38:57
  haven't showed us that yet.
• 38:59
  And it's not just this team, and it's not just Kyler.
• 39:02
  KOC's team, since he got here, are bottom third of the league.
• 39:09
  Now for the last, what, four or five years since KOC arrived here in Minnesota.
• 39:15
  And this is a guy who has been called a quarterback whisperer and was supposed to be
• 39:19
  this offense of mine.
• 39:21
  Now I will add that I have been very happy with the run first mentality, playing ball
• 39:28
  possession and and just controlling the game and not putting anyone at risk, but at what
• 39:34
  point is it all going to click and put points on the board?
• 39:38
  I would also add that I'm kind of happy that they're having to win a lot of games in close
• 39:45
  matchups like this and being a little bit calloused to a tight game, having to come from
• 39:51
  behind.
• 39:52
  And maybe it's against what most people would consider inferior talent, but this is the NFL.
• 39:58
  Any team, especially early in the season, can beat anyone.
• 40:03
  And that's just the reality of this league.
• 40:06
  We've seen a lot of surprises.
• 40:08
  I think none more so right now than the New York football giants, winning games behind a
• 40:15
  quarterback that was punted away from his former team for a fifth round pick.
• 40:19
  I have more confidence in the Vikings figuring it out than that Giants team continuing to win
• 40:25
  football games, with their quarterback.
• 40:28
  And while it's a great talking point right now, I'm not going to feel bad for anyone in blue
• 40:34
  when eight weeks from now that team is below 500 again and going, what the hell have we
• 40:41
  done?
• 40:45
  Yeah.
• 40:45
  I I agree with you.
• 40:47
  It's just at some point, I don't even know what to what to say about the offense anymore.
• 40:53
  Like, this is...
• 40:53
  We've been talking about it for weeks now.
• 40:55
  This is the big, stretch.
• 40:57
  This is the big stretch games coming up.
• 40:59
  And maybe they can't...
• 41:00
  Maybe they, won't play to this level, but, like, maybe at some point...
• 41:04
  Because they'll have a bad game at some point.
• 41:06
  You can't...
• 41:07
  I don't think it's realistic or fair to expect them to play like this every single week.
• 41:12
  They might have one let up game, but I I think they could continue to play at an elite level
• 41:15
  the whole season.
• 41:18
  No.
• 41:18
  And and you're right, Sully.
• 41:20
  And the thing is is it always happens that Cody, you know, you follow Minnesota sports as
• 41:25
  much as I do.
• 41:27
  We lose we lose undefeated streak.
• 41:30
  Everybody's gonna come at us and be like, oh, see?
• 41:32
  The Vikings weren't legit.
• 41:33
  You know?
• 41:33
  Look at this.
• 41:34
  They they blew the game.
• 41:36
  They can't stay undefeated.
• 41:37
  You know?
• 41:38
  So, I mean, that's...
• 41:40
  You know, it's just the way Minnesota is.
• 41:42
  It's just we can't get no respect unless we go undefeated the whole year and probably still
• 41:48
  wouldn't get respect.
• 41:50
  Yeah.
• 41:51
  Just settle into it.
• 41:52
  I...
• 41:52
  I'm not gonna sit here and get mad about it.
• 41:54
  Danny Parkins sounds like an idiot on his show saying that they're gonna go o and four over
• 41:58
  the next four weeks.
• 41:59
  I mean, I don't know how to say impossible, but statistically, don't think it's probable at
• 42:06
  all.
• 42:07
  Now you can say that you think those four teams are better teams and can can beat the Vikings.
• 42:14
  Sure.
• 42:15
  But they still have to go out and do it.
• 42:17
  And so far, nobody has been able to yet.
• 42:20
  So as much as they want to disrespect this team and this offense, we're also...
• 42:27
  I feel like on the cusp.
• 42:29
  It's not like guys aren't open.
• 42:30
  It's not like they're getting embarrassed.
• 42:32
  It's a few missed assignments, a couple of bad penalties, an overthrown ball here.
• 42:37
  And and I guess I kinda believe them when they're like, we're right there.
• 42:41
  I'm not going back and watching the all 22 on this and and and really digging into it, but I
• 42:47
  feel like opportunities missed that if you capitalize on a few, it completely changes
• 42:54
  narratives around the team, changes some of the scores.
• 42:57
  Right?
• 42:57
  The Addison ball coming back on the penalty that then sets you back.
• 43:01
  That's an extra touchdown.
• 43:02
  You you put that up on the board.
• 43:04
  Now it's 23 or maybe more because Indianapolis now has to press a little harder in that
• 43:09
  moment.
• 43:10
  Maybe you do drive an extra.
• 43:11
  So it...
• 43:12
  It's a few plays during the game, and I guess I'm going to defer to the coach and what they
• 43:19
  are seeing on the tape to know that they are right here, cut away.
• 43:23
  What
• 43:24
  I would like to see is them stop talking about it and just do it.
• 43:27
  Like, just put it together.
• 43:28
  Finally, we are six, seven weeks into the season.
• 43:32
  Go put together a game right now and go out there, and none more timely right now than
• 43:38
  heading into this game against the Detroit lions who are coming off a big win themselves
• 43:43
  and playing really good football here early on in their season as well.
• 43:49
  Yeah.
• 43:49
  Yeah.
• 43:50
  No.
• 43:50
  You're you're right.
• 43:51
  And, you know, until somebody could figure out how to beat the Minnesota Vikings defense, I
• 43:59
  mean, the only game I'm kinda really worried about is that Bills game because the Bills
• 44:03
  could strike at any moment.
• 44:05
  Yeah.
• 44:06
  Josh Allen ain't MVP Josh Allen, but he's still Josh Allen.
• 44:09
  So...
• 44:10
  But as long as nobody can figure out how to beat the Vikings defense, I think the Vikings
• 44:17
  will be in good hands.
• 44:18
  But, yes, they do need to get that offensive rolling.
• 44:21
  I feel like it should have been figured out by now.
• 44:24
  Yep.
• 44:25
  Going into the season, you set up the schedule.
• 44:29
  You knew it was...
• 44:30
  You had pretty good chances of, coming out four wins, five wins, maybe even, you know, three
• 44:38
  wins at the very least going into the bye week.
• 44:42
  And, yeah, there were injuries, not as much time getting chemistry between Tyler and the
• 44:48
  offense, but you gotta get it going.
• 44:51
  You know, even KFC said it.
• 44:53
  He's like, we gotta we gotta stop having this conversation.
• 44:56
  So, yeah, defense is gonna come and do its thing, but offense has to start showing more
• 45:02
  improvement.
• 45:04
  I mean, I'm a fan of Danny Parkins.
• 45:06
  Like, you know, it's just hot take stuff.
• 45:08
  It just...
• 45:09
  Those those kinda show how big their brand is.
• 45:11
  A Chicago guy So, like, it doesn't surprise me that he has no respect on his name when it
• 45:16
  comes to the Minnesota Vikings.
• 45:18
  Forgot.
• 45:18
  He is a bears fan.
• 45:19
  I I would just say, like, what?
• 45:21
  The line's coming up.
• 45:22
  So, like, last year on Christmas Day...
• 45:24
  Was it Christmas Day when they did what they did?
• 45:27
  Yeah.
• 45:29
  That...
• 45:29
  That's gonna be a thing even though they are playing really well.
• 45:33
  30 points a game, basically, besides the last one.
• 45:36
  Then the Bills game...
• 45:38
  Because I have watched Josh play his whole career.
• 45:42
  He'll put up points.
• 45:43
  He will, and it'll be difficult.
• 45:44
  You'll probably...
• 45:45
  It'll probably be your toughest test of the season defensively.
• 45:48
  However, at the end of the day, Josh is good for giving you the ball...
• 45:52
  Throwing you the ball once or twice.
• 45:54
  You just gotta catch it.
• 45:55
  So, like, that one could go either, and their defense is still really bad.
• 46:00
  So, like, again, I know we say every week, but maybe that'll be the week.
• 46:04
  The offense pops out.
• 46:06
  JJ can get some yards.
• 46:11
  Yeah.
• 46:11
  No.
• 46:11
  I think if we get through these two games, and I know we've we've said it all five or six
• 46:19
  weeks or five weeks into the buy, that office could do what it...
• 46:25
  Do it with the saints, I I I think we get there, but we need to see consistency.
• 46:30
  And one of the announcers made a comment, I don't know if you guys heard it, but out of
• 46:36
  Jefferson misplay, they're like, is Jefferson and and Kyler not on the same page?
• 46:42
  Are they are they lacking cohesiveness?
• 46:45
  And it's just like, god, they've been together for six games, all practice.
• 46:50
  They know what they're doing.
• 46:51
  They're pros.
• 46:52
  It was just a misplay ball.
• 46:55
  Well, coach,
• 46:55
  maybe you can speak to that a little bit because Kyler was splitting reps in the
• 47:00
  preseason, and then Jefferson gets hurt for the few weeks.
• 47:04
  Kyler was hurt for a few weeks.
• 47:06
  Is there something to just having time on task with guys?
• 47:10
  Now we all saw the amazing throws that they made down in New Orleans and the the the
• 47:15
  ability to hook up there.
• 47:16
  Is there opportunities for them?
• 47:19
  I mean, that's why we play the game every single week.
• 47:22
  Is there opportunities during practice to solidify these things, to to really work on
• 47:28
  this, or does it have to just be during the game getting it done?
• 47:33
  Practice and film time.
• 47:35
  I mean, yeah, you can have chemistry, but, you know, in game, I mean, hey.
• 47:42
  If a quarterback does this
• 47:43
  on the option route and going
• 47:45
  here,
• 47:46
  like, no questions about it.
• 47:48
  I think they just need a little bit more time.
• 47:49
  They're getting that, but, just a little bit miscommunication.
• 47:54
  Someone saw something different.
• 47:56
  That's all that it takes.
• 47:58
  Two e, that's because people in Minnesota can't stop talking about the guy.
• 48:02
  Like, just leave it alone.
• 48:04
  We have a swear jar for his name on here.
• 48:07
  I won't even read your comment.
• 48:09
  Well, the thing is, though, he is six and o in his last six starts, I think it was, or five
• 48:15
  and o.
• 48:16
  So Yeah.
• 48:17
  Good good for him.
• 48:18
  Congratulations.
• 48:20
  I don't care about the New York football giants.
• 48:23
  So it's only a matter of time before that turns on them.
• 48:27
  And then, hopefully, the debate is over, and we can worry about fixing the problems that we
• 48:32
  have here.
• 48:33
  I I don't see...
• 48:34
  It would be like me constantly going back and be like, man, I wish I didn't go to prison.
• 48:38
  You know?
• 48:38
  But I wish I didn't...
• 48:39
  You know, I I wish I didn't make all those mistakes in my life and do better.
• 48:43
  No.
• 48:43
  You can only move forward and do better for yourself.
• 48:46
  So we need to focus on what we can do right now, and nobody in that locker room is is
• 48:51
  looking back with seller's remorse right now.
• 48:55
  It's about moving forward.
• 48:56
  It's about getting better each and every week.
• 48:58
  How do we
• 48:59
  improve
• 49:00
  and keep winning football games?
• 49:02
  Because at the end of the day, you're six and o, and you have an opportunity if you keep
• 49:05
  winning games to play all of your games.
• 49:08
  To not just get a first round buy, but to hold serve and hold court in US Bank Stadium through
• 49:14
  the rest of the playoffs.
• 49:16
  So a a big deal here and something to have here.
• 49:21
  Yeah.
• 49:22
  Tooey.
• 49:22
  I can't believe we didn't go over this when we were hanging out during Skullfest.
• 49:25
  By the way, the Skullfest dock is up on Roku now.
• 49:29
  And, I mean, it wasn't bad.
• 49:30
  It's like adult day care.
• 49:31
  It it wasn't anything too crazy.
• 49:33
  It was still South Dakota prison, so no big deal.
• 49:36
  Not to derail our conversation here, but...
• 49:38
  Yeah.
• 49:39
  Check out before the horn inside Skullfest twenty twenty six.
• 49:43
  It's available on our Roku channel, channel eight eighty eight, or search SPSN on your Roku
• 49:48
  device.
• 49:48
  Download the app.
• 49:50
  We got all of our content goes out there on the replays.
• 49:53
  Eventually, we'll start streaming live over there as we get more people kind of using that
• 49:57
  platform and engaging with us on there.
• 50:00
  So make sure you download it.
• 50:01
  Check out the documentary with our guys, SK Rap.
• 50:05
  Touille was there, although I didn't get him on the interview, was an integral part to making
• 50:10
  it all happen for us.
• 50:11
  Brevi, Bright Lights, Skolmoff.
• 50:12
  I I
• 50:13
  I do want to test and get you guys...
• 50:16
  I do wanna ask, though.
• 50:18
  You guys made me jealous as I was watching the livestream, and Cody's out there working his
• 50:23
  magic.
• 50:24
  What was it like interviewing caller caller Ellard?
• 50:29
  Carly?
• 50:31
  Is it
• 50:31
  Lee that you guys got?
• 50:32
  I thought it was Ellard.
• 50:33
  But anyway
• 50:33
  Carl Lee.
• 50:34
  Yep.
• 50:35
  Okay.
• 50:35
  How was that?
• 50:37
  What do what do you mean?
• 50:38
  It was just like any of the other thousand interviews that I've...
• 50:41
  I didn't even know who he was, b.
• 50:44
  He walked up.
• 50:45
  He's like, hey.
• 50:46
  I'm Carl Lee.
• 50:46
  I'm like, cool.
• 50:47
  I'm Bubba Stars.
• 50:48
  Nice to meet you.
• 50:50
  Are you having fun today?
• 50:52
  You know?
• 50:52
  So different for me not being a lifelong fan.
• 50:56
  It was great to have him on here.
• 50:57
  Really appreciative of Carl coming on the show and being a part of the being a part of the
• 51:04
  stream with us.
• 51:05
  Now I will say it will be a little bit different at our next livestream from that lot.
• 51:09
  Should we get another special guest on with us, I will feel a little bit different about that
• 51:14
  one.
• 51:15
  Who's it?
• 51:16
  Who's who's there next week?
• 51:17
  Or I'm on the before.
• 51:21
  Saw big one.
• 51:24
  Well, time will only tell.
• 51:25
  He will be in town for his ring of honor ceremony that night with the service and
• 51:30
  everything.
• 51:30
  So, you know, little little bird has told us he will be around on the lot, and they're they're
• 51:37
  putting in a good word for us and everything that we're doing.
• 51:40
  So, hopefully, we'll be able to snag him for a few moments and get to talk about him and,
• 51:45
  obviously, a a massive day for him with the, you know, the the honoring at the Ring Of honor
• 51:52
  and and just everything that it's gonna mean to him.
• 51:54
  So pretty awesome.
• 51:56
  It it was Carly.
• 51:57
  I'm sorry.
• 51:58
  Yeah.
• 51:58
  It was it was Carly.
• 51:59
  Sorry, Tooey.
• 52:00
  But next time, Carl Eller is around, if we get him on, I'm gonna ask him about fighting with
• 52:07
  the police
• 52:08
  for sure.
• 52:09
  I need I need to know who we're gonna have or at least the potential and have two e write up
• 52:14
  my questions for me so I can I can ask the good ones?
• 52:18
  Well, and to be honest with you, it was kind of a shock because big b, you know kind of where
• 52:24
  they sit Yep.
• 52:25
  Do their autographs.
• 52:26
  Couldn't hear from us.
• 52:28
  He was between our tent and the cornhole.
• 52:31
  I just walked up to him.
• 52:33
  You know, Bubba was like, hey.
• 52:34
  Do your drive by.
• 52:35
  Go find a fan.
• 52:36
  I just talked to him.
• 52:37
  I was like, hey.
• 52:38
  You wanna come do this podcast?
• 52:40
  We'd love to have you.
• 52:41
  And no hesitation.
• 52:42
  He just followed me.
• 52:43
  He was like, alright.
• 52:43
  Let's go.
• 52:44
  Yeah.
• 52:45
  We we should get, like...
• 52:46
  I...
• 52:46
  I've seen a lot of people get, like, a little board, like, a plaque or something.
• 52:51
  We should have them all signed.
• 52:52
  Every interview that we get there, just have them sign on there just kinda commemorate that.
• 52:59
  So Yeah.
• 53:00
  Something for sure.
• 53:01
  We do have those...
• 53:03
  I do have the copies of the yearbook.
• 53:05
  I definitely need to bring them along and have something like that.
• 53:10
  B, I mean, you...
• 53:10
  You've been there during the...
• 53:12
  There's a lot going on, and I am definitely doing way too many things, trying to produce
• 53:17
  the show and keep it all going.
• 53:18
  Thanks...
• 53:19
  Thankfully, we have Cody to go and kinda do his thing as well, but it...
• 53:24
  I thought it went really well.
• 53:25
  That was by far our best broadcast, I think, of the season, especially being able to do it
• 53:30
  ourselves.
• 53:30
  Shout out to our guy, Paul Slothowg, who who helped us with the first one and bringing his
• 53:34
  whole big setup, but this one felt different, being able to run our entire livestream from a
• 53:40
  laptop and our, you know, my cell phone and being able to do what we did and and to have
• 53:46
  such a great time and to be able to bring that, you know, bring that coverage to our people is
• 53:52
  is really awesome, man.
• 53:53
  So I really appreciate it, and I can't wait to get back up there in, you know, what, ten days
• 53:58
  ish or so.
• 53:59
  I guess a little bit longer because it's Monday night football and do it all over again with
• 54:03
  our people for that Bills game.
• 54:05
  It's gonna be a really incredible opportunity for all of us.
• 54:09
  No.
• 54:09
  I can't wait.
• 54:10
  I can't wait to see what, you know, I was there for opening week with the packers.
• 54:14
  Can't wait to see what this bills week is gonna be like.
• 54:18
  So definitely can't wait to get a couple pickle shots and go over to the three tents in a bus
• 54:26
  over there, talk with Nancy and the cooks and see what they got grilling over there.
• 54:30
  Man, it's such a good spread out there every single time.
• 54:33
  Shout out to crew life.
• 54:34
  Yeah.
• 54:35
  I know we talk about the VWO, but there's a couple other groups that are there as well.
• 54:39
  Shout out to our guy, Dan, with the Valhalla squad as well as Sarah and, you know, her man
• 54:46
  with CrewLife, man.
• 54:47
  They just put on an incredible spread of food for everybody.
• 54:50
  It's absolutely amazing what they do week in and week out.
• 54:54
  I'm so impressed and so grateful to be accepted into that tailgate and to to make...
• 55:00
  For them to make space for us is really
• 55:02
  really
• 55:03
  awesome, and we're super appreciative of that.
• 55:05
  Selly, wanna get a few words from you in here kinda looking ahead to this Detroit Lions game.
• 55:10
  Now I'm gonna get you back on tomorrow.
• 55:13
  We're gonna shoot our preview as well, but I want you to go ahead, share a couple of things
• 55:17
  with us because we're actually gonna let you go when we're bringing Taylor in here when when we
• 55:22
  do our, bit with Taylor over from the Michigan, sports truth podcast and get him in here to
• 55:28
  chronicle this Detroit Lions team.
• 55:31
  Yeah.
• 55:32
  Watchman, watch Detroit a lot this year.
• 55:34
  The Jets played them this year.
• 55:36
  They're kind of a different team a little bit now.
• 55:39
  I mean, Bryant Branch returns, so their defense has been playing a a lot better.
• 55:43
  As of the last two weeks, they're not as bad as they have been.
• 55:47
  DJ Reed has been giving up a lot of yards.
• 55:50
  I think it's either...
• 55:51
  He's either dead last or second to second to last and, like, yards allowed.
• 55:55
  Even though I swear, like, he used to play for the Jets.
• 55:58
  He's a really good player.
• 55:59
  I don't know what's happening this year.
• 56:01
  But JJ, if guarded on him, should be thrown at every single time, like, no matter what because
• 56:08
  he's just...
• 56:09
  Because our players had a field day against him when we played.
• 56:14
  The offense is still elite.
• 56:16
  Jamere Gibbs has taken another step, obviously, not with no Montgomery.
• 56:20
  And he pretty much doesn't come off the field.
• 56:22
  It's just him.
• 56:23
  I think he had 27 carries the other day on Sunday.
• 56:29
  Aminra, J Mo, still there doing their thing.
• 56:32
  Sam Laporta still great.
• 56:35
  Penay Sul now plays on the on the left side.
• 56:37
  He's a he's a left tackle now, so the right tackle.
• 56:40
  And it's still the line, so you still got your trick plays.
• 56:43
  And then Dan Campbell, who almost gave Tom Brady a heart attack live on the live on the
• 56:48
  broadcast with multiple...
• 56:50
  His decisions the last game, going for it, fourth and one at his own 20.
• 56:56
  So, like, you always have to account for...
• 56:59
  I think the playing the lions, the only team in the NFL where you have to account, you have...
• 57:05
  You're gonna play...
• 57:06
  You're you're gonna have to defend four downs no matter what time of game it is.
• 57:11
  You have no idea.
• 57:12
  I know some people try to defend the decision.
• 57:14
  I don't know.
• 57:15
  I I like Dan Campbell a lot.
• 57:17
  I don't know if I'm gonna give him that much credit that he was thinking that far ahead
• 57:21
  about getting his offense another possession.
• 57:24
  I just think it's Dan Campbell.
• 57:25
  And he's like, I'm just gonna go for it on fourth down.
• 57:27
  Why not?
• 57:28
  This is what I do.
• 57:30
  So those are just a couple of my
• 57:33
  I don't even know why they dress a punter.
• 57:36
  Like, when...
• 57:37
  Kevin Burkhart was like, they're not going for this, are they?
• 57:40
  And I was like, no.
• 57:41
  They're going for this.
• 57:42
  This is like...
• 57:42
  This is Dan Campbell.
• 57:43
  They don't bluff.
• 57:45
  They they go.
• 57:46
  They...
• 57:46
  There...
• 57:46
  There's no hard there's no hard count.
• 57:48
  There's no nothing.
• 57:49
  They're going.
• 57:50
  Like, there's no question.
• 57:51
  They're just lucky the backers kick or miss the field goal.
• 57:55
  Incredible.
• 57:56
  Well, Selly, I appreciate you, brother.
• 57:58
  We'll get together tomorrow for the rim report.
• 58:00
  That'll be at seven central.
• 58:02
  We're gonna talk some NBA basketball.
• 58:04
  Condolences to aunt Edward who's gonna undergo a knee surgery there after the wolves were off
• 58:10
  to such a great start this season.
• 58:12
  We're gonna talk more ball.
• 58:13
  Join us back here tomorrow on the scene.
• 58:15
  Project Sports Network for that.
• 58:17
  We're gonna let Selly go.
• 58:18
  We're gonna bring in our guy, Taylor Phillips, from the Michigan Sports Truth podcast.
• 58:24
  Taylor, welcome to the show, man.
• 58:25
  Appreciate you being on with us today.
• 58:27
  Thanks, guys.
• 58:29
  Yeah.
• 58:30
  Vikings are undefeated.
• 58:31
  This this should be an interesting matchup.
• 58:36
  Yeah.
• 58:37
  No doubt.
• 58:37
  I I mean, I I feel like the the Detroit lions are getting a lot more respect around the
• 58:42
  league.
• 58:44
  They're earning it.
• 58:45
  The Vikings are, but they are.
• 58:48
  Exactly.
• 58:48
  They're they're playing well.
• 58:50
  The offense, obviously, Jared Goff kinda playing out of his mind and lately.
• 58:55
  So, yeah, tell us a little bit about, you know, Detroit, and tell us a little bit about you
• 59:00
  first, and your podcast, and then we'll get into the football talk.
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• 1:00:14
  I'm the director of marketing for operation combating veteran suicide, a South Dakota based
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  501C3 here where I live.
• 1:00:23
  So appreciate you, man.
• 1:00:24
  Really great to have you on.
• 1:00:26
  Is there anywhere that you're not on?
• 1:00:28
  Are you on Al Jazeera?
• 1:00:29
  Are you on
• 1:00:33
  Never heard of it.
• 1:00:36
  I I...
• 1:00:37
  Well, we we all use StreamYard.
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  That's that's one thing for sure.
• 1:00:42
  But I've never but I've never heard of Algeron.
• 1:00:45
  Good.
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  Good.
• 1:00:48
  All good, man.
• 1:00:49
  Well, we...
• 1:00:50
  We're we're happy to have you in here.
• 1:00:51
  We're gonna talk a little bit about this matchup coming up between the Vikings and the
• 1:00:57
  Detroit lions here.
• 1:00:58
  What can you tell us about the lions season so far?
• 1:01:01
  They were also coming out of there by this week.
• 1:01:03
  They beat Green Bay in a nail biter down there to the finish.
• 1:01:08
  What can you tell us about them?
• 1:01:10
  Well, the lions secondary defense has improved since since their first two games where
• 1:01:17
  they've...
• 1:01:17
  Where the secondary was just nowhere.
• 1:01:20
  And then their offense...
• 1:01:23
  You you got their offense.
• 1:01:25
  You...
• 1:01:26
  Usually, it's been good.
• 1:01:28
  Just just a rough night against those packers even in a win.
• 1:01:34
  Two fumbles.
• 1:01:35
  Their defense got it done.
• 1:01:37
  DJ won them partially blocked Tyler...
• 1:01:40
  Trace Max 35 yard field goal attempt.
• 1:01:44
  That...
• 1:01:45
  Josh Jacobs had the ball in his hands for god's sake.
• 1:01:49
  And the Lions get...
• 1:01:51
  The Lions got a break right right there with that, and then one of them one of them made the
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  defensive play in order for their offense to run down the clock and win it as time expired
• 1:02:06
  with the Jake Bates 22 yard chip shot field goal right down the middle.
• 1:02:10
  Glad Kevin Burkhart was there to call call the lions win at home, which they usually don't win
• 1:02:17
  with him in the booth, but, really, a a hard fought win.
• 1:02:21
  That was dating back two years ago, by the way, when the lions beat the packers at home, 34 to
• 1:02:29
  31 when Jake Bates nailed a, on, like, like, a 20 or 32 yard field goal as time expired.
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  Yeah.
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  It...
• 1:02:42
  Yeah.
• 1:02:42
  It's been...
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  It it...
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  But that...
• 1:02:45
  They also...
• 1:02:45
  This was was more nail biting than than it was.
• 1:02:48
  But both both of those games were epic battles.
• 1:02:53
  They were.
• 1:02:54
  So the lions secondary defense has been doing a a much better job covering except they left
• 1:03:00
  Tucker Craft wide open twice in the first quarter, but, they learned their lesson.
• 1:03:06
  Brian Branch with the interception, good coverages by Ennis Rakestraw.
• 1:03:12
  Roger McCrary, with with coverages in Arizona.
• 1:03:17
  Holy cow.
• 1:03:19
  Also, Ennis Rakestraw.
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  Also, you got Khalil Dorsey with two pass breakups.
• 1:03:26
  Holy cow.
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  And and, yes, there there was some ref ball against the packers, but but I don't wanna
• 1:03:32
  apologize for that.
• 1:03:33
  I take what's given.
• 1:03:35
  Oh my god.
• 1:03:35
  With as many calls as as the green and gold have gotten over the years, I...
• 1:03:40
  I'm not here for them, and I...
• 1:03:42
  I'm not listening to any talk.
• 1:03:43
  Not that we pay much attention to what comes out of Green Bay anyway.
• 1:03:47
  But, Taylor, introduce you to our expert analyst here, coach Cody Halmdahl on the stream
• 1:03:55
  with us.
• 1:03:56
  Coach, any questions for for Taylor as it pertains to this game against the Vikings?
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  What do you think is the contributing factor to Jared Goff going insane lately?
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  And do you think he can keep going?
• 1:04:14
  Well, Jameson Williams has been catching the deep ball.
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  Got two touchdowns against the packers.
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  What...
• 1:04:21
  Yeah.
• 1:04:22
  J Mo loves to go deep, but, the Vikings defense, the passing defense has been great.
• 1:04:28
  So look for them to, cover J...
• 1:04:30
  Jamo, but, they're...
• 1:04:32
  But the Vikings run game, from what I read in an article, were were struggling with a run
• 1:04:38
  defense.
• 1:04:39
  So, Jamere Gibbs is gonna look to take advantage of that.
• 1:04:43
  But, he's gonna...
• 1:04:45
  But either way, he's he's gonna need some help behind him with, Isaiah Pacheco out.
• 1:04:52
  Somewhat...
• 1:04:52
  Some other running back for the Lions needs to step up behind him and and just to give give
• 1:04:57
  give some breathing room because Gibbs can't run all by himself.
• 1:05:02
  But Jared Goff, I've seen him carry the ball quite a few times himself.
• 1:05:11
  Needs to get that going a little bit more often than not, but you got those wideouts, J Mo,
• 1:05:22
  Amon Ross, Saint Brown.
• 1:05:25
  I I think the...
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  Yeah.
• 1:05:28
  Those are dangerous weapons that the Vikings are gonna have to cover receiving defenses
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  wise.
• 1:05:36
  But it's it's it's gonna it's gonna be a good comparison between the Vikings receiving
• 1:05:42
  defense and the lions and the lions receiving defense.
• 1:05:47
  So you you...
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  So this this
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  should be a very watchable game.
• 1:05:56
  Yeah.
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  I agree.
• 1:05:57
  Speaking of watchable games, the the Vikings dismantled the lions on Christmas day last
• 1:06:04
  year.
• 1:06:05
  Now, obviously, these teams are different, but with what the, the Vikings were able to do last
• 1:06:13
  year, against there, is there any fear on the side of the lions that they won't be able to
• 1:06:20
  kind of impose their will against this Vikings defense and led by Brian Flores?
• 1:06:27
  Well, the lions are all about grid.
• 1:06:29
  They they don't fear anything, of of course.
• 1:06:32
  But, But they're biting kneecaps.
• 1:06:34
  And Yeah.
• 1:06:36
  Going forward on fourth down deep with it in their own territory.
• 1:06:40
  They...
• 1:06:40
  Well, they gotta stop that.
• 1:06:41
  Dan Campbell's gotta stop that.
• 1:06:43
  He's he's gotta play...
• 1:06:45
  Place...
• 1:06:45
  He...
• 1:06:46
  He's gotta be wiser than that.
• 1:06:47
  If you're gonna go for it, make sure to go for it whether it's at midfield or deep in the
• 1:06:53
  opposing territory or any...
• 1:06:55
  Anywhere in between.
• 1:06:56
  Just not deep in your own territory anymore, please.
• 1:07:01
  But
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  yet
• 1:07:02
  Do you feel like you could be a a Dan Campbell kind of one of those crazy calls that is the
• 1:07:08
  the turning of the tide in a game like this that I don't think either team is gonna put up
• 1:07:13
  huge numbers offensively just given the success of these defenses lately, especially with this
• 1:07:20
  Vikings kind of on a historic pace that they are.
• 1:07:24
  Does it...
• 1:07:25
  That wise football, does that become even more paramount as you move into this game?
• 1:07:31
  It's a lot...
• 1:07:32
  It...
• 1:07:33
  It's very paramount.
• 1:07:34
  That...
• 1:07:34
  That's that's most paramount.
• 1:07:36
  You get...
• 1:07:36
  You gotta play smart.
• 1:07:37
  You gotta coach smart.
• 1:07:39
  You gotta make smart decisions.
• 1:07:40
  You gotta be smart with everything.
• 1:07:43
  So, of course, it comes down to execution, but the the play calling factors in as well along
• 1:07:52
  with the decision makings.
• 1:07:54
  The...
• 1:07:55
  And and that's just that's just the way it is.
• 1:08:00
  Go ahead, B.
• 1:08:00
  I'll let you jump in there.
• 1:08:02
  Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  So, Bill, I've been following you for last few years lobbying programs and stuff like that.
• 1:08:09
  With
• 1:08:10
  the trade deadline coming up, I mean, we got talk here that, you know, Vikings are looking
• 1:08:13
  at this guy, this guy, this guy.
• 1:08:15
  Are the lions looking at anybody specific that they wanna bring in, or they kinda stay in Pat?
• 1:08:23
  Well well, the lions, like I said before, they need someone to step in behind Jamere Gibbs in
• 1:08:30
  the running back department.
• 1:08:33
  With Isaiah Pacheco out, Sion Vake, Sion Vake, just not contribute...
• 1:08:39
  Contributing enough.
• 1:08:41
  Other other running backs of the lions have, they don't contribute they don't contribute
• 1:08:46
  enough either.
• 1:08:47
  So the lions need at least an...
• 1:08:50
  Another backup running back behind Gibbs since...
• 1:08:54
  But but but Checo's been struggling lately, but he got injured.
• 1:09:01
  But...
• 1:09:02
  So by all means, they they need another backup running back that...
• 1:09:05
  That's more valuable to this team behind Gibbs.
• 1:09:10
  Yeah.
• 1:09:10
  That's something that we're talking about, you know, getting a running back here.
• 1:09:15
  So going into the game, I mean, yeah, Vikings are 16...
• 1:09:18
  They're six and o, looking to go seven.
• 1:09:21
  What are you worried about in this game coming that may give the Lions a loss or or, you know,
• 1:09:31
  what do you see that could hurt the Lions from those Vikings team?
• 1:09:36
  Well, what I'm worried about is the consistency of the lions receiving defense.
• 1:09:42
  Sure.
• 1:09:42
  They sure they shine against Green Bay for, like, the the last three quarters, but I wanna
• 1:09:47
  see more consistency for the lions receiving defense.
• 1:09:51
  They just need to keep on covering, playing more of the ball and not the body because they
• 1:09:57
  because they got away with, like, a couple pass interference penalties, and they they they just
• 1:10:03
  got...
• 1:10:04
  They just they just locked out, obviously, which I'll take as a Lions fan and and critic
• 1:10:11
  as well.
• 1:10:13
  So Roger McCrory is is...
• 1:10:16
  Has been valuable.
• 1:10:16
  He's been playing the ball.
• 1:10:17
  He's been playing it.
• 1:10:19
  He...
• 1:10:19
  Well, he's been playing just the ball and not the body.
• 1:10:21
  He's been
• 1:10:23
  he's been...
• 1:10:24
  He produced six pass breakups in Arizona.
• 1:10:29
  And so look for him to do more of that against the Vikings.
• 1:10:36
  And Brian Brian Branch got an interception, so he needs to be more active.
• 1:10:44
  Still still, you gotta play the ball and not the body.
• 1:10:47
  Khalil Dorsey, good coverages as as well.
• 1:10:50
  They just need to keep it up and and turn up the consistency.
• 1:10:55
  That's all I'm worried about.
• 1:10:56
  Yeah.
• 1:10:57
  Well...
• 1:10:57
  And so imagine with with the noise after following the game last week that it's gonna be
• 1:11:04
  a point of emphasis in that secondary.
• 1:11:07
  They're probably not going to get away with as much as they did against Green Bay two weeks in
• 1:11:12
  a row.
• 1:11:13
  And and good as the...
• 1:11:15
  You know, Christian Watson is a a terrific football player, but he is not a Justin
• 1:11:19
  Jefferson.
• 1:11:20
  And and, ultimately, you have to go out, and now the Vikings offense has not been able to
• 1:11:26
  really get things going coming out of their bye week.
• 1:11:28
  We thought it would be a little bit better against this Colts team last week.
• 1:11:33
  Even though they come away with the win, the offense is lackluster at best.
• 1:11:38
  But you saw flashes in the New Orleans game of what it can be when Kyler Murray is able to
• 1:11:44
  hook up with a Justin Jefferson.
• 1:11:47
  Obviously, the one in the end zone getting a lot of attention, but there was a couple other
• 1:11:51
  throws during that game, that were on point as well.
• 1:11:55
  I feel like this Vikings team is, always...
• 1:11:58
  It's right around the corner.
• 1:12:00
  Right?
• 1:12:00
  But it's also been right around the corner for seven weeks now.
• 1:12:03
  So I I hope they get there in Detroit and, make it a game because it just as easily could go
• 1:12:09
  the other way if the, the the Detroit defense can get it going and create turnovers, which
• 1:12:16
  have been hard to come by against the Vikings offense.
• 1:12:19
  At least we're not giving the ball away.
• 1:12:22
  Right.
• 1:12:23
  Turnovers can be a factor.
• 1:12:24
  The Lions receiving defense can can create turnovers as well, mostly interceptions, and
• 1:12:33
  sometimes fumbles as well.
• 1:12:36
  But the the easiest way to create create a turnover is to intercept the ball and cover the
• 1:12:44
  receiver, play the ball.
• 1:12:46
  Oh, by the way, speaking of Kyle...
• 1:12:48
  Kyler Murray, he has thrown for 812 yards and com...
• 1:12:51
  Compared to golf's 1,788 passing yards.
• 1:12:55
  Holy cow.
• 1:12:57
  Holy hokey smokes, Bullwinkle.
• 1:13:00
  That...
• 1:13:00
  That's quite a comparison.
• 1:13:02
  I I just saw it on espn.com, the matchup between the Vikings and
• 1:13:07
  Lions.
• 1:13:09
  Well, Kyler did miss a couple of weeks as well, but, yeah, you're you're not making much of a
• 1:13:14
  dent in it only throwing for one fifty a a game like he did against Indianapolis.
• 1:13:20
  But, yeah, Jared Goff is playing amazing football right now.
• 1:13:23
  One way to, you know, attack that for this Vikings team, which is averaging 3.8 sacks per
• 1:13:31
  game, is to create chaos.
• 1:13:33
  And that's something that this Vikings team does better than any team in the league right
• 1:13:38
  now and maybe on a historic pace of doing so.
• 1:13:41
  Now they're not generating all the turnovers, but they are getting home.
• 1:13:45
  Four sacks with a guy who's known for being a bit of a statue back there and not being the
• 1:13:49
  most mobile quarterback.
• 1:13:52
  Is it a point of emphasis this week in Detroit to protect Jared Goff and to go to more of a
• 1:13:58
  quick game with an Amun Ra, Saint Brown, who I think is a terrific football player himself?
• 1:14:04
  And to get that short passing game going and looking to create yards after the catch and not
• 1:14:10
  necessarily hunting deep down the field with Jameson Williams.
• 1:14:15
  Certainly, that's why the Vikings are undefeated.
• 1:14:17
  They can create chaos.
• 1:14:19
  So the lions offensive line will have to get get even bigger buff...
• 1:14:26
  Buffer and more stronger or or just a lot stronger against the Vikings defensive front.
• 1:14:33
  So it...
• 1:14:34
  It's gotta be a showdown for sure.
• 1:14:37
  Also, we we also saw Penne Sul protect us...
• 1:14:43
  Do do some extra blocking reporting as eligible, doing some extra blocking in the
• 1:14:48
  secondary.
• 1:14:49
  So Penne Sewell's a two way offensive lineman, not just in the offensive line, but at the line
• 1:14:58
  of scrimmage, but also in the secondary.
• 1:15:00
  So So are you saying they brought...
• 1:15:03
  They...
• 1:15:04
  The...
• 1:15:04
  Now he's playing left tackle this year.
• 1:15:06
  We know that he's made the switch over to that side, but that they brought in a backup left
• 1:15:10
  tackle and put him out as an eligible receiver and as your third blocking tight end.
• 1:15:17
  That's what I saw against the Green Bay packers.
• 1:15:20
  And Terrifying.
• 1:15:22
  It is.
• 1:15:22
  Yes.
• 1:15:24
  Very very schematic.
• 1:15:28
  Well...
• 1:15:28
  And it fits in exactly with the the coach that a Dan Campbell is and really great.
• 1:15:36
  So, Taylor, I appreciate you tuning in.
• 1:15:38
  B, you got one more question for Taylor before we let him go?
• 1:15:42
  No.
• 1:15:43
  Just...
• 1:15:43
  I mean, it's a division collision, a rivalry game.
• 1:15:47
  I think it's gonna be a good one.
• 1:15:49
  Yeah.
• 1:15:49
  I mean, what's your guys' special teams like?
• 1:15:52
  Because I...
• 1:15:52
  It may come down to field position with the special team.
• 1:15:55
  So how how confident are you on the special teams to get you some yards there?
• 1:16:00
  Well, just gotta return the football and create the field position.
• 1:16:05
  It's the way it goes.
• 1:16:07
  Jake Bates has been solid in the field goal department.
• 1:16:10
  Jack Fox can really boot those punts, like, over 60 freaking yards per punt.
• 1:16:18
  Holy cow.
• 1:16:19
  So look for those to happen.
• 1:16:22
  That's good.
• 1:16:23
  Awesome.
• 1:16:23
  What's your prediction right now for the game?
• 1:16:27
  That's...
• 1:16:28
  I think it's gonna go to overtime, but I but I think the Lions are gonna win by a field goal.
• 1:16:33
  Like, 34, 31.
• 1:16:36
  Big back to back weeks against the vision rival.
• 1:16:40
  We hope not.
• 1:16:41
  We got a pretty good kicker ourselves, and we hope that he's the one kicking it from 75 yards
• 1:16:47
  away at Ford Field.
• 1:16:49
  And now that his streak is over, he
• 1:16:51
  75 yards.
• 1:16:52
  Wow.
• 1:16:53
  I don't
• 1:16:54
  know don't know how far he can kick from, but coach coach Kevin O'Connell said as soon as we
• 1:17:00
  get across midfield, we're in his range.
• 1:17:03
  So we'll see if it comes down to it and they need to.
• 1:17:05
  If this offense can't move the ball, they're gonna have to rely on someone to score points.
• 1:17:10
  So we'll see who gets it going.
• 1:17:12
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• 1:17:15
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• 1:18:41
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• 1:19:01
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• 1:19:03
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• 1:19:10
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• 1:19:15
  Well, it
• 1:19:16
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• 1:19:25
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• 1:19:27
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• 1:19:27
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• 1:19:35
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• 1:19:38
  I mean, you know...
• 1:19:39
  But
• 1:19:44
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