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Inside The Data: Size, Strength Overshadows Speed For NFL Draft WR Class · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome back to Inside the Data. On Inside the Birds,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher and of course we got our data
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  Speaker 1: and analytics analytics expert Sam Finkel. As we continue, as
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  Speaker 1: we get closer to the draft, now less than a
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  Speaker 1: week away, Sam to go through athletic testing as it
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  Speaker 1: pertains to these NFL Draft eligible players and what the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles prefer. We've done a lot of positions in this episode, Sam,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do wide receivers, and there have been some
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  Speaker 1: positions that we've gone through where we've had to couch
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  Speaker 1: how important athletic testing is to the position, some more
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  Speaker 1: than others. Right in this one, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: there's much of a debate. You don't usually see guys
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  Speaker 1: at this position wide receiver drafted in round one to
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  Speaker 1: two and sometimes early three that don't at least meet
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  Speaker 1: some baseline top tier athletic criteria. You know, the ankwon
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  Speaker 1: Bolden's run a four to seven, You run a four
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  Speaker 1: to seven, You're not gonna probably get drafted in the
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  Speaker 1: first three rounds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agreed.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of this year's athletic you know,
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  Speaker 1: this year's class and the athleticism of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that this class is pretty athletic.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a decent amount of receivers that you know,
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  Speaker 3: fit a pretty good athletic profile. It's weird, despite the
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  Speaker 3: top guys, there's no one that really stands out crazy
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that may be somewhat of.
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  Speaker 3: A different, you know, opinion than some other people. But
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  Speaker 3: all these prospects have like some sort of flaws. There's
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  Speaker 3: no perfect receiver prospect. But I do think it's a
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  Speaker 3: pretty relatively deep class.
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  Speaker 1: Good good. It does look by the charts that we're
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  Speaker 1: about to show that as compared to some other positions
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  Speaker 1: that we've done, more guys did some more things at
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  Speaker 1: the combiness far as athletic testing, there were I know
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  Speaker 1: that they're like bench is not is not something that
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  Speaker 1: a ton of guys did, which is fine because wide
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  Speaker 1: receivers and bench presses, who cares. But guys did the forty,
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  Speaker 1: They did the split, the vertical, the broad you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess there wasn't a ton of three cone But
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  Speaker 1: I think when what do you think are the bigger
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  Speaker 1: obviously aside from forty, what do you look for at
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the split in the forty is really
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  Speaker 3: important obviously, because you know just how fast can you
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  Speaker 3: get to that speed. I think the vertical and the
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  Speaker 3: broad have some importance as well, just for explosion. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like all the athletic testing is pretty good
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  Speaker 3: in here.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, I do have to give one guy
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  Speaker 1: props at some point for doing something that is almost
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  Speaker 1: like extraordinary to me at his position. You'll probably know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about when we get to it. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: but let us bring up and we got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of names here, so we'll have to go through like
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  Speaker 1: the like we did last one. I forget what it was,
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  Speaker 1: Corners maybe or ed rushers were there, like fifty, so
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  Speaker 1: we had to do the first half in the second half. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right, I'm just gonna get it out
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  Speaker 1: of the way. Okay, Dion Burks from Oklahoma, you have
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  Speaker 1: my attention. Twenty six reps on the bench for a
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver is pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't the only one too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh did I miss somebody I might have missed? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, Jordan Tyson, the interesting name there. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how about that.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a reason why he's highlighted green him and
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  Speaker 3: Chris Brazel are my two favorite sleeper I get sleeper
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  Speaker 3: risk receivers in this class. They're both projected to be
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  Speaker 3: third round picks and you never know, but I think
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  Speaker 3: both of them are really fun. I really like the
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  Speaker 3: tape on both of them. But I also think.
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  Speaker 2: Their athletics scores were pretty good as well.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about Brazil, right, because he's from Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: you know the Eagles. I think a lot of people expect,
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  Speaker 1: and fairly so that you know, especially with the aj
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  Speaker 1: Brown situation, that if the Eagles don't wind up using
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  Speaker 1: a first round pick on a wide receiver, it's likely
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  Speaker 1: to come in round two or round three. And Brazil
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  Speaker 1: is a guy who I've seen. I know, Andrew Decheco
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  Speaker 1: has followed him and made some sort of mock draft
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  Speaker 1: connections there as well. What do you like about Brazil?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I love the way he moves. I
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  Speaker 3: think he it has pretty good ability to his hands
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  Speaker 3: are pretty solid, but it's it's more about how he
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  Speaker 3: at the catch point. He does a pretty good job of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, finding the ball, and I really enjoyed everything
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  Speaker 3: I saw about him. I mean, his athletic testing is
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  Speaker 3: pretty impressive at four to three seven, and he he
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  Speaker 3: looks like it on film.
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  Speaker 2: It's quite impressive.
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  Speaker 1: He's also a big guy, right, So to run a
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  Speaker 1: four to three seven, I think he's like six six'
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  Speaker 1: three something like.
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  Speaker 2: THAT i will confirm.
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  Speaker 1: That, YEAH I i think he's one of the bigger
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver prospects in The. Giraffe this is not a
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  Speaker 1: Little Deshaun jackson kind of. Guy so to run a
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  Speaker 1: four to three seven at his SIZE i thought was pretty. Impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely it's not looting for, me but either, way, YEAH i.
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  Speaker 3: Do he is a bigger guy for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure and what do you like about the other? Guy
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  Speaker 1: you haven't green that with that Like Dean.
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  Speaker 3: Brooks, YEAH i mean he also was pretty impressive on.
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  Speaker 3: FILM i mean he has a rare combination of speed and,
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  Speaker 3: strength as you can kind of see with the bench.
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  Speaker 3: Press he was our bronze medal finisher and athleticism. Score
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  Speaker 3: BUT i actually, thought out of the three guys in
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  Speaker 3: that were, MEDALISTS i thought he did the best out
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  Speaker 3: of the.
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  Speaker 2: Three. RIGHT i enjoyed his film the most out of the.
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  Speaker 1: Three i'll, say sure got to like that vertical by
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  Speaker 1: the way of forty two and a.
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  Speaker 2: Half, yeah it's.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible and his broad jump is also, impressive but his
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  Speaker 3: a vertical particularly, impressive and his split was really really.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he was a silver medalist there behind and
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  Speaker 1: tied With Bryce, lance who was an excellent athlete From
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  Speaker 1: North Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: State by the, way, brother go, Ahead Trey lance's.
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  Speaker 1: Brother, yes, Right Trey lance's. Brother and going back To,
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  Speaker 1: Brazil sam six ft. Five, now he's one ninety, eight
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  Speaker 1: so he's, lanky, Right it's not like he's carrying a
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  Speaker 1: lot of. Weight BUT i still think with long arms
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  Speaker 1: and long legs to run a four to three seven
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty. Good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and the thing, IS i think he will have
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  Speaker 3: to put on weight in the next. LEVEL i really
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed watching his, film BUT i remember his frame being really,
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  Speaker 3: small AND i do think if he can keep some
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  Speaker 3: of that speed and put on you, know twenty, pounds
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  Speaker 3: maybe it'd be pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Impressive, yeah for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure Brendan, thompson you have shaded also along With Bryce
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  Speaker 1: lance in A i don't, know, Well i'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out a good green to describe, that like.
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  Speaker 3: A Min, yes, YEAH i put the guys in mint
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  Speaker 3: green THAT i really liked and then the like kind
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  Speaker 3: of bluish. COLOR i just because there was just so
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  Speaker 3: many of, them and there's some we can only talk
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  Speaker 3: about so many people.
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  Speaker 2: Like Antonio.
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  Speaker 3: Williams isn't that light? Blue BECAUSE i liked, him BUT
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  Speaker 3: i didn't love. HIM i thought his concentration was. Incredible
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  Speaker 3: but you, know like guys Like Brennan thompson And Bryce,
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  Speaker 3: LANCE i really enjoyed. THEM i thought their film looked pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Good uh they.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't brazil And burke's kind of looked like the complete
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  Speaker 3: package to. Me and they're guys THAT i don't feel
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  Speaker 3: like are talked about. Enough BUT i Think Brennan thompson
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  Speaker 3: And Bryce lance have some. Limitations Bryce lance looked, incredible
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  Speaker 3: but his level of competition like not so. Great SO
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  Speaker 3: i would have loved to see him against you, know
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  Speaker 3: a top tier defensive.
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  Speaker 2: Back it would have been better to.
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  Speaker 3: See And i'm not saying he's not capable of, it but,
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  Speaker 3: yeah And Brendan THOMPSON i thought was also.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting so, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: With the nice forty yard, desk there are four two
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  Speaker 1: six that's pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Good and he looks like he runs four to six.
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  Speaker 2: Feet it's.
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  Speaker 1: Great, Yeah and so what was the the sort of
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  Speaker 1: baby bluish there with. Answer it's kind of like someone
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  Speaker 1: you sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah it's SOMEONE i kind of Like antonio And.
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  Speaker 3: WILLIAMS i really liked his. Concentration it was his best
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  Speaker 3: best feat for. SURE i mean he was catching the
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  Speaker 3: ball and making these contorted catches and he just he
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  Speaker 3: seemed to have a really good, concentration AND i thought
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  Speaker 3: it was worth discussing. Him but like the rest of his,
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  Speaker 3: film there was nothing that was that impressive besides the.
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  Speaker 2: Concentration in My, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: WHAT i find interesting about him is that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys who if they don't think they're going to
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  Speaker 1: like test really well in certain, categories they won't do.
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  Speaker 1: Him you, see half these guys are are not five for, five,
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  Speaker 1: right he did, everything even though he did not you,
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  Speaker 1: know he didn't win a, medal although he wasn't too far.
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  Speaker 1: Off but a four to four is it's, Okay. Matt
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  Speaker 1: so it's hard to believe that in twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: we're calling four four speed. Okay but that's the reality of.
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  Speaker 2: IT i mean it really.
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  Speaker 1: Is, yeah but the split is, good, right one five
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  Speaker 1: to five year al right with and the vertical is
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  Speaker 1: not far off from from the. Bronze, SO i mean
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  Speaker 1: it's it's not he didn't test. Terrible he just didn't
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  Speaker 1: meddle in.
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  Speaker 3: Anything, yeah AND i thought that's kind of how his
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  Speaker 3: film looked. Like he didn't look, bad but he didn't
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  Speaker 3: look great besides his. Concentration his concentration was definitely his
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  Speaker 3: best attribute for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure So Denzel boston And Carnel, tate let's parse them
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  Speaker 1: for a. Second boston out Of, Washington tate out Of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: State tate will probably be a top ten, pick at
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  Speaker 1: least the first round. Pick boston could be a first round.
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  Speaker 1: Pick should, Be, well we'll, see we'll. SEE i shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: say should, be we'll. See let's start With. Tate four five.
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  Speaker 1: Three concern you at? All, no, okay because he's such
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  Speaker 1: a technician and he's An ohio state.
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  Speaker 3: Guy, YEAH i, mean you get The ohio state coelo.
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  Speaker 3: APPROVAL i wonder if it'll change now the heartline left.
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  Speaker 3: Right probably.
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  Speaker 1: Not i'm not totally. Concerned i'm and for those who
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  Speaker 1: are only listening and not, watching he only did the
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  Speaker 1: forty and the, split nothing, else which is normal for
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's, gonna you, know go that. High BUT
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  Speaker 1: i guess in my If i'm a scout AND i
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  Speaker 1: did have a little bit of, CONCERN i would have
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  Speaker 1: hoped that the split at least would be a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: BETTER i mean one five five is not bad by
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  Speaker 1: any stretch of the, means but if you're gonna run
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  Speaker 1: a slower, forty you would love that split to be
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  Speaker 1: a little faster and, say, hey you, know at least
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  Speaker 1: he in short. Area he has got great.
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  Speaker 2: Burst and if you look at his, film HE i said.
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  Speaker 1: One it was one six,' one so that is kind of,
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  Speaker 1: far off.
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  Speaker 2: And, it is but it's it's here's.
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  Speaker 3: The thing, his film like a lot of, the times
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  Speaker 3: when you're looking at the athletic testing you're trying to,
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  Speaker 3: confirm things it is a little bit of a red
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  Speaker 3: flag when you see it doesn't. Confirm it but he
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  Speaker 3: consistently was beating top defensive backs over, The Top so
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  Speaker 3: i'm not worried about it.
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  Speaker 2: At.
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  Speaker 1: All, YEAH yeah i mean if the worst thing he
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  Speaker 1: winds up becoming as a slot receive a high volume.
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  Speaker 1: SLOT receiver, i mean that's not what you want out
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  Speaker 1: of a top ten to. Twelve pick but THAT'S why,
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  Speaker 1: i said if it's if the worst thing he be
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  Speaker 1: kinds upcoming Is Like, nelson agalore you at least get a,
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  Speaker 1: productive player. You, Know yeah boston did. The vertical thirty five,
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  Speaker 1: was okay and he was a, that is a bronze
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  Speaker 1: third place finisher in, the shuttle which not a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: People did but what did you make?
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  Speaker 2: Of, THAT yeah i mean.
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  Speaker 3: HIS vertical i know that thirty five was the. MAGIC
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  Speaker 3: number i was saying for a lot of these guys,
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  Speaker 3: for receiver you want it a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, higher yeah it.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't need to be that much like maybe like thirty
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  Speaker 2: six would. Have been so it's.
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  Speaker 3: Not concerning it's a little bit lower THAN what i
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  Speaker 3: would have liked, to, See, RIGHT so i.
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  Speaker 2: DON'T know i.
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  Speaker 1: REALLY question i. HAVE that i was wondering to, ask
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  Speaker 1: you is THAT because i think he's the only one
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  Speaker 1: who ran the shuttle but didn't run the forty or.
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  Speaker 1: The split i'm sort of like curious as to why
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  Speaker 1: he would.
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  Speaker 3: Do, That yeah i'm sure there was. A reason maybe
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  Speaker 3: he just wasn't going to perform, as WELL or i
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  Speaker 3: don't who knows in the head of his agent. And,
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  Speaker 3: him YEAH but i Really. LIKE boston i think he's
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  Speaker 3: a really fun prospect one of my favorite receivers in
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  Speaker 3: this draft, Class too, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he's another kind, of big, strong.
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  Speaker 2: Guy.
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  Speaker 1: Right Yeah denzel boston six four, To twelve, so okay
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  Speaker 1: you're six four, to twelve you're forty time unless You're
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  Speaker 1: Like randy moss is not going to be like you're you're, carrying,
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  Speaker 1: car right you Know what. I'm saying like you're a
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  Speaker 1: big contested. Catch GUY and i now maybe he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to show people doing the, shuttle that for a he's
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  Speaker 1: not stiff hipped for a big, strong guy he can
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  Speaker 1: he can move laterally. Pretty well that would be my read. Into,
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  Speaker 1: it agreed, Good stuff We'll move is there anybody else
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  Speaker 1: you WANTED to I know chris bell is a is
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  Speaker 1: a really good wide, receiver prospect but he didn't. Do
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  Speaker 1: anything so for the purposes of, this show it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of hard to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About, it yeah. For SURE and i watched his film
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  Speaker 2: and it.
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  Speaker 3: WAS okay, i mean there was nothing that really stood
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  Speaker 3: out to me as much as some of these.
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  Speaker 2: Other, guys okay.
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  Speaker 1: We will move ON to i Was Hoping elijah surratt
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  Speaker 1: would do IT because i kind of liked Him. From,
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  Speaker 1: indiana yeah he also didn't. Do, Anything Now, Jeremy Bernard
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  Speaker 1: jeremy Bernard, from alabama a guy who could PROBABLY go.
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  Speaker 1: I don't some people say, late first but he's more
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  Speaker 1: like a second, round pick maybe. Early third, you know he.
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  Speaker 1: Did everything, but again this is a receiver who is
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  Speaker 1: more of a almost the taate like where he's a
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  Speaker 1: technician more than athletic freak.
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  Speaker 2: Of, NATURE absolutely i. Don't disagree he is a kind
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  Speaker 2: of a.
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  Speaker 3: Fun prospect, He, TESTED okay i don't like the thing
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  Speaker 3: is it's not super concerning because of his production and
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  Speaker 3: some of the. Other THINGS but i would have liked
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  Speaker 3: him to test a little bit better in some of.
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  Speaker 2: The.
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  Speaker 1: Areas yeah, but again so this is an example OF
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  Speaker 1: what i was. Talking, about right he didn't run the
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  Speaker 1: fastest forty at four to, four eight but a one
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  Speaker 1: five to two split compared to what the one six one,
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  Speaker 1: that right it's a. Great, split yeah and then that's
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  Speaker 1: not too far off from whatever the the bronze was at. One,
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  Speaker 1: five oh so you're you're happier.
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  Speaker 2: About that you're definitely happier.
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  Speaker 3: ABOUT that i really don't love his, vertical, though yeah
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  Speaker 3: or HIS broad, i mean it's, broad's good but, it's, vertical.
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  Speaker 1: Okay but the vertical. Yeah no but then and this
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  Speaker 1: is like this is the beauty of like right analytics
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  Speaker 1: or just an. Athletic testing then he winds up putting
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  Speaker 1: in a. Gold medal is that a h at? Three?
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  Speaker 1: Cone yep so go figure figure, can't jump but he's.
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  Speaker 1: Very agile doesn't, run fast but he can run fast
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  Speaker 1: in a. SHORTER space i mean it kind OF has
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  Speaker 1: z slot written all, over him almost a, Yeah YEAH
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  Speaker 1: and i bet you he's the type of guy that
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  Speaker 1: will really, excel there, you know like almost Like A
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  Speaker 1: jason elevant type.
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  Speaker 2: Of, GUY yeah i could see that, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Just made for. The slot what do you Like About?
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  Speaker 1: Jacoby lane you got him?
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  Speaker 2: In. BLUE yeah i think he is an.
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  Speaker 3: INTERESTING prospect i really think he tested pretty well relative to,
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  Speaker 3: you know. HIS production i think at the four four
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  Speaker 3: seven speed, pretty solid one five eight, split solid the
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  Speaker 3: forty vertical was, PRETTY good i mean really, good actually
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  Speaker 3: and then the ten to nine broad also. Pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, ALL around i thought his testing was, pretty
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  Speaker 3: good AND so i thought he was worth just, you
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  Speaker 3: know even just talking.
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  Speaker 2: About passing, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah another guy who did not meddle but wasn't far
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  Speaker 1: off in some of. The. Categories, Yeah yeah so the
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  Speaker 1: other RECEIVER from Usc Is. Makay lemons are the, purple
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  Speaker 1: guys like guys who you think are gonna go. Top
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  Speaker 1: fifty is that why?
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  Speaker 3: They're, Purple yeah and they're also just like the obvious
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: guys that we should at least be, talking, ABOUT.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean conceptsi on is a Really, INTERESTING conceptcian i,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: DON'T know i pronounce it like The OLD dave conceptsi
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: from The. Reds uh he didn't, do, anything unfortunately so
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: but we know he's going to be a. Good Player,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: malchai lemon another, top guy didn't. DO anything i think
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: it really jumps out To me sam looking at, like
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: like Oh So omar cooper did do, a lot and
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: he's another one of those GUYS that i think this
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: class is more full of wide receivers who are not
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: going to blow you away with their, forty time but
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: are good athletes in.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Other, AREAS yeah, I mean i think that this class
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: has a lot of. GOOD receivers, I really i really
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: am impressed this class as, a WHOLE and i think
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of value you can get in. This
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: CLASS like i think, the second, the third the. Fourth
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: round there's a lot of value in.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: These, Receivers yeah like if you're Getting A omar Cooper
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: from indiana who, made that, You know SAM and i.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Are torture we probably still lose sleep. Over it the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: catch on the back of the line of the end
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Zone Against penn state for. That miraculous who would have
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: thought we would have two heartbreaking Losses to indiana in
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: a seven, Year SPAN like i still lose sleep About
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: The michael pennix touchdown stretching the ball over the pylon, allegedly,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: right yes and then just NOT to I would i would.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: HAVE think i remember, thinking like we will go a
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: long long time before we ever Lose to indiana, like
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that and then, sure enough, sure enough just a few,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: years later we Lose to indiana just. Like that but
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: THE point i was Making was sam that you know four,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: four two, it's fine not going to blow, your way
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: but it's good one five, To, five okay you're happy
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that the split is at, least competitive if not, you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: know close. To medaling if, not there if you're not
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: going to run the fastest forty and at, thirty seven that's,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you know it's higher than the baseline that you want on. A,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: JUMP yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I agree he did everything he needed to do to
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: at least solidify his spot as that like second tier
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: of receivers in.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: THIS class i have to, ask you did you watch
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this Kid, From Connecticut, skylar bell because there's been some
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: buzz on him because of. HIS athleticism.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I did i did.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Watch him what do YOU think i?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: HIM yeah i actually went IN and i, Was like
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: he's one of the FIRST guys, i WATCHED and i
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: enjoyed his film quite. A bit AND then I watched
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Brazil and BURKES and i, Was, LIKE okay i like
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: these guys a little.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Bit, more SURE but i Really. LIKED bell i thought
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: he was a.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: FUN prospect i think he will be successful at the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: next level.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: For.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Sure yeah well. HE can i don't know how much
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: this helps a, wide receiver but he can really jump. Long, distances,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: yes again that. Is true and by, the way his
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: broad jump wasn't, a medal but it was pretty good at.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: FORTY one i mean that broad, jump vertical RIGHT yeahh
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: i mean that's.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: He missed the bronze medal by half. An.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: INCH yeah i was, gonna say that's that's pretty pretty good.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Right there and How About.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Ted, hurst yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: INTERESTING prospect i definitely thought he was worth mentioning just
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: because of, his athleticism and he gold medaled in the,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: broad jump which is. Pretty IMPRESSIVE but, i, mean look
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: he hit every measurable you're kind of looking for for.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: A receiver, i mean.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: His speed is, good enough his split is, pretty solid
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: he's over that threshold for vertical and obviously again the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: gold medal in the broad.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: So right, but yeah by, the, way again like if
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you're just looking at the forty time and not taking
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: into a context that he's six, foot four, two eight
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: so you run that forty times four to four at,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that size. That's good that's. Really, good, yeah that, My friend,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: sam right is what you CALL an, x receiver a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: guy who has that kind, of build which means you
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: can strong physical fight off, press coverage but can also
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: run down the field with four four speed at. That
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: size if YOU'RE Trading, aj brown you're kind of looking.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: FOR that, i MEAN If aj brown's down the ROSTER
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and x is definitely the receiver they're. Looking FOR so
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: i wouldn't be shocked if they took a swing at.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: This guy, of.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Course we can't have a show without talking About a, georgia,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Kid Right. Zachariah branch, of course he was the bronze
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: medalist in the in the, test split so.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: That's, GOOD yeah i mean his speed's.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Pretty, good yeah his vertical and, broad solid and his
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: bench was, bronze medalist, so.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah everything's, above baseline like a four to. Three five
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: he was. Absolutely fine like, that's good that's. Really GOOD.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And i enjoyed watching, his film but it WASN'T what
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: i was hoping it. Would BE like I still i
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: kind Of Like dylan bell a little, bit MORE like
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: i liked watching his film a little.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Bit MORE but i do Think.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Zach rya branch will BE an, nfl player and a
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: pretty good one. At, THAT sure i could see him
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: having a pretty, solid CAREER but i think he's a
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: little bit, role LIMITED so i.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Don't know, he's, short right he's like, five nine so
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he might so, when again when you see a guy
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: who has five to nine and a little bit more
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of a short area burst with the one to five
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: split and he's strong ry because he had twenty twenty
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: reps on, the bench which was good enough for BRONZE
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that i think that makes me think slot like, you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: know a guy who can block a little bit line
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: up in. The slot he's not gonna have great size
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: or speed on. The outside soul could be a functional, slot, player.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: YEAH and i think he'd be a really good.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Slot PLAYER but i do think you can't really put
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: him on the outside. AS much i mean, you COULD
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: but i think you lose. A, LOT yeah i think
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: it's optimal having him in. The SLOT and i think
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: something that is valued is the ability to have Guys
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Like DeVonta smith where you can put in the slaught
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: or you can have on.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: The outside like.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: There's VALUE and i Guess aj brown, as well.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Having that versatility. IS valuable i think a Guy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Like branch you feel almost like you're losing some of
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: his efficiency if you move him to.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: The outside, So agreed, All right well we have to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: talk about a kid that probably not a lot of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: people are, talking About But jeff Caldwell from cincinnati who
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: just blew it up here at the combine and he
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: meddled in three, different events including. Second place he can
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: obviously jump right forty, two vertical eleven, two broad so
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that's good and a one four eight split four to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: three speed is. Very good It. Didn't meddle, but again
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: guess what a Size.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Is sam he's a big boy, for sure six.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Five six you give me a six foot five guy
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: who can run a four to Three and i'm happy,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: with that especially one hundred and.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Sixteen pounds and the, THING IS i i, watched HIM
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: and i was actually more Impressed With bryce lance's film
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: who had he had ninety eight instead of ninety nine. Athleticson, score,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: yeah which by, the way a ninety eight and a
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: ninety nine athleticism score. Is, ridiculous yes it is. Absolutely.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous right it means not only did you test, really
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: well but your size is. Awesome too so you have
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to have both of, those things, you know the measurables and.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: The TESTING but I think caldwell is a little bit of.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: A project i think you can develop him a. LITTLE bit,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: i mean he has clearly has all the tools, and ability,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: BUT yeah i think that there's some something to be
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: desired a. Little bit i'm trying to remember back because
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: obviously there's forty six GUYS and i watched, them All
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: so i'm.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Trying to remember.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: EXACTLY well i do want to point, out though that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: when you're comparing his Tape To bryson. Lance's tape right
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: One Of bryson lance is getting thrown the ball by
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a quarterback who will play IN the Nfl In. Cole,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: payton sure you know it'll probably Be a, day three
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: maybe a, Day late, day two but, you know something
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in the three to. Six ROUND but i don't Know
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: if cincinnati's quarterback is. A PRO probably i doubt that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: HE is i DON'T think i remember Seeing A cincinnati
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: qb on, that list.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: So yeah, BUT anyway i think it's definitely worth talking
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: about him with again ninety nine athleticism and IT only
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: i feel like it only goes up to ninety nine or.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: One hundred, so yeah, it's insane the measurables and.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: THE testing i think that's a guy that you take a.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Swing, On sure so Sure absolutely, day three, sixth round.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Seventh round hope that maybe with, you know in an
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: offense with a better quarterback, or something that all the stuff.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Shines through that happens quite. A, Bit, yeah yeah you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: almost slipped one past me here because he's not he's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not color coded and there's really nothing to say about
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: him other than it didn't hit me until seeing his
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: name for the third time that, you know we are
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Familiar With. Harrison wallace the third who you Know Us
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: penn staters Know As, Trey Right trey WALLACE who i we, Always,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: THOUGHT sam i thought that was gonna be the guy
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that kind of Broke The penn state's recent mold of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: just underwhelming. Wide receivers and he wound up like just
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Like A lambert smith right transferring. Somewhere else he Goes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: To mississippi he only did the forty and the and.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: The SPLIT but i was a little surprised by the.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: FORTY time i thought he was a little bit faster.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: In, that yeah it was not an impressive showing in,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: terms of like the, thing is Guys like tate don't
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: need their forty to be, anything Crazy right willis did
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: he needed to be crazy in order to get as.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: A prospect he's. Nothing special it's. A, shame yeah it's. A, SHAME.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Well i guess maybe it Wasn't All drew. Allard's fault
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: then in, The end right.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: ANYBODY else i neglected to mention here that you Want To,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: josh cameron you have In.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Nybe, BLUE yeah i just thought he was a pretty,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: solid Prospect.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Just okay he sat on all of his. GREAT times,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I guess i.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Guess, So.
• 26:33
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  Speaker 1: Up awesome i'm. REALLY listen i like this class ONLY
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: because i feel like sometimes there's a class of receivers
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: come out and they all just run these amazing, forties
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: right and everybody falls in love, with them and then
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: they don't really translate because they have straight line speed and.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: NOT else i like that this class is full of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys who don't have The great they,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: have size they, have weight they have, positional versatility they
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: excel In other you got a couple guys who excelled the,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: bench PRESS which i like. To, SEE uh i feel.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Like that that's impressive about. This class they may not
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: be the, greatest burners but they might actually be more. Complete.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: RECEIVERS yeah i really like.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: This, class, YEAH yeah i think there'll be some good
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: guys in round three and round four that can help
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a team out and then three years down the road
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: maybe develop into.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Something agreed.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Good stuff, My friend are we gonna do? One more is?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: The question do we have one more position that we
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: have yet to? Focus on what if we probably got
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to do corner before all is said, and, done right
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: maybe that'll be the last one before, all right we'll
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: do corner next and call it a. Great series that's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: gonna do it for inside the data on Inside the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Birds For. Sam Finkel I'm. Jeff mosher we'll catch you
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: all on the. Next one