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Broken Arrows, Part 1: Whoops, Where's Our Nuke? · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much
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  Speaker 1: for tuning in. Let's hear it for our super producer,
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  Speaker 1: Max Defcon Williams.
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  Speaker 2: What's it?
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  Speaker 3: What's like a clason? Is that the sound that you
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  Speaker 3: hear remain indores, remain in doors. There's been an event? Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: I'm bad, Yeah you are indeed. Yeah, and today we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about the seminal nineteen nineties action film Broken Arrow,
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  Speaker 3: starring John Travolta and Christian Slater.
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  Speaker 2: Seminal seminal. That's pretty bold. Yeah, yeah, you think it's
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  Speaker 2: a semin I'm misusing it. No, no, I've been known
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  Speaker 2: to misused words. That is correct, because that is an
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  Speaker 2: amazing film. Did I get it right? Isn't Christian Slater
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  Speaker 2: in it? I don't know. He's a good guy.
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  Speaker 3: Travolt is the bad guy. I remember, he's the bad guy.
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  Speaker 3: What is a broken arrow? It's also, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: Brian Adams.
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  Speaker 2: Who else is going to bring you?
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  Speaker 3: I think he's talking about an actual broken arrow, though, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's naming off weird objects like a bottle of rain.
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  Speaker 2: You know, sure, don't think he's talking about lost nukes.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're all code words for different governmental disasters. Brian, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a biocontaminant that's lost the bottle of rain.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 4: So I want to kind of just jump in here
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  Speaker 4: and go completely off topic though, because Ben, screw you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, screw you. What does what happens? We just recorded
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I want you to know.
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  Speaker 4: Ben was talking about how much he loves I Will
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  Speaker 4: Follow You in the Dark by Death caf for CUTI.
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  Speaker 2: I will stay this right now.
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  Speaker 4: I just spent two hundred and sixty dollars on tickets,
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  Speaker 4: sixty sixty one dollars on tickets. You go see Death
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  Speaker 4: Cab for Cutie twentieth anniversary translations. I'm along with twentieth
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  Speaker 4: anniversary of Gave Up my post post service. I love
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  Speaker 4: Death Cab for Cuitie, but I stayed to band. That
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  Speaker 4: song is terrible. Yeah, he told me listen to it now.
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  Speaker 4: I was stuck in my head.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a catchy jam and it's not terrible. It's
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  Speaker 3: just a sacarin and it just makes you kind of
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  Speaker 3: I yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Killed it, you know, Like it's one of those songs
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  Speaker 1: where when the band plays it. The front guy doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to do much because the crowd's going.
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  Speaker 2: They love that, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: I saw them at a festival in Atlanta recently or
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Caught Time is weird, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and it's one of the ones he does on acoustic.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't really have a big explosive, so it's a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a snoozer, but I think it's pretty. It's
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  Speaker 3: just so elegantly written.
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  Speaker 2: It is elegantly written.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm a much bigger fan of the Postal Service
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  Speaker 3: than I am of Death Cab for Cutie and I
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  Speaker 3: Will Die.
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  Speaker 2: On that hill. Speaking of dying on hills, Wait wait, wait, wait, Max,
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  Speaker 2: where are you going with this? You listen to it?
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  Speaker 2: So I listened to it and it was pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: I went then put on styrophone Plates, off the Off
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  Speaker 4: the Photo album. Much better song. If you Think I
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  Speaker 4: Will Follow You in the Dark is a great song.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to starrophone Plates. It's a less famous album, but
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  Speaker 4: it's a much better song.
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  Speaker 1: I refuse to nol I refuse for us to do
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  Speaker 1: a Max with the Facts on that one, because that
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  Speaker 1: is a musical opinion.
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  Speaker 2: That was Max with the Wax The whack worth it,
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  Speaker 2: worth it you guys want a real facts. There are
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  Speaker 2: lost nukes.
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  Speaker 1: There are tons of lost nukes. This where we were going, right, like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Somehow we were gonna get there. Yeah, here we set up,
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  Speaker 2: We took it, are right, we did a couple of things.
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  Speaker 1: So, according to atomic archive dot com, since nineteen fifty,
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  Speaker 1: there have been no less than thirty two nuclear weapon accidents,
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  Speaker 1: and to your point earlier, Noel, those are conventionally known
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  Speaker 1: as broken arrows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or as we like to refer to them collectively, whoopsies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: new kuipsies, neukuipsies. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, how does this happen? One might ask, Well,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that today. Thirty two nuclear
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  Speaker 3: weapon accidents broken arrows, like you said, ben an unexpected event,
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  Speaker 3: according to atomic archive dot com, involving nuclear weapons that
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  Speaker 3: result in the accidental launching, firing, detonating, theft.
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  Speaker 2: Or loss of the weapon.
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  Speaker 1: Important distinction, right, because it's not always just losing the thing.
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  Speaker 1: You could accidentally launch it. And it might sound strange, folks,
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  Speaker 1: because as you know, there are tons of redundancies involved.
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  Speaker 1: The US nuclear Arsenal is created in such a way
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  Speaker 1: that as long as everything works. You can't just have
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  Speaker 1: one guy have a bad afternoon and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, destroy the Marshall Islands. But the
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  Speaker 1: big ones, the scary ones, are the ones that have
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  Speaker 1: been lost. Like you were saying, six nuclear weapons over
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  Speaker 1: the course of history have been lost. They've never been found.
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  Speaker 1: That number, we should say is big thanks to Max here.
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  Speaker 1: We should say that number is highly debated because some
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  Speaker 1: people think there are just three missing nukes. Some people
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  Speaker 1: think they're way, way more. And that's the tricky part.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it's two part episode, right, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know, and I mean, let's
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  Speaker 1: think about it.
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  Speaker 3: Nukes are a thing that like some people get and
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  Speaker 3: other people don't get. They don't like it when I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking like geopolitically speaking, Yeah, and we're one of the
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  Speaker 3: ones that get them, you know, and I guess because
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  Speaker 3: of compacts and agreements and you know, whatever accords. Let's
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  Speaker 3: say they're nuclear deproliferation and all of that. And then
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  Speaker 3: we know also that there are countries that want them,
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  Speaker 3: oh want them so bad, or possibly are making them
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  Speaker 3: and not telling us about it, and they're not playing fair.
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  Speaker 2: But fair is what's fair in love and war, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and love and.
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  Speaker 1: Nukes right right, right, and this is uh, this takes
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  Speaker 1: us down so many interesting paths, you know, because nuclear weapons,
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  Speaker 1: at least in the view of the US, nuclear weapons
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  Speaker 1: are one of those things where if we have them,
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  Speaker 1: it's great. If someone else has them, it's terrible. It's
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  Speaker 1: like flying cars, right, Like if you have if flying
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  Speaker 1: cars are a great idea, if there's only one and
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  Speaker 1: you're the one who owns.
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  Speaker 3: It, and if we all have them, then it's sort
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  Speaker 3: of a zero sum game, you're right, and or mutually
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  Speaker 3: assured destruction.
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  Speaker 1: M yeah, mad, and so people got real mad during
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  Speaker 1: the first recorded case of broken arrow situation. It happened
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  Speaker 1: on February thirteenth, nineteen fifty. There's a B thirty six
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  Speaker 1: going out of an Air Force based southeast of fair Banks, Alaska,
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  Speaker 1: and it's flying to base in Fort Worth, Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: it's due in training. It's a simulating a combat mission,
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  Speaker 1: and the weapon aboard this B thirty six had a
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  Speaker 1: dummy installed, so it's like a fake gun. And six
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  Speaker 1: hours into the flight, the aircraft gets some serious mechanical difficulties,
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  Speaker 1: has to shut down three engines at twelve thousand feet
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  Speaker 1: and it couldn't maintain a level flight. It headed off
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  Speaker 1: over the Pacific Ocean. It dropped the weapon from eight
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  Speaker 1: thousand feet altitude. A flash occurred on impact, a sound,
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  Speaker 1: a shock wave, The weapons high explosive material detonated, but
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  Speaker 1: not the whole thing. The crew bailed out over Princess
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  Speaker 1: Royal Island and they later found the wreckage of the aircraft.
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  Speaker 1: So everything went wrong on this one. But it was
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  Speaker 1: not a nuclear detonation.
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  Speaker 3: No, but it did sort of have a domino effect,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it set some parts in motion. In nineteen fifty,
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  Speaker 3: we know of at least five broken arrow events in.
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  Speaker 2: One year on year.
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  Speaker 3: Great great, and the last one took place on November
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  Speaker 3: tenth of that year in Quebec, that's in Canada. And
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  Speaker 3: there's a quote here from a writer named Zaria Gorvette
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  Speaker 3: writing for bbcfuture dot com that describes these events as such.
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  Speaker 3: A B fifty jettisened a Mark four baumb over the
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  Speaker 3: Saint Lawrence River near Rivier Delu, about three hundred miles
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  Speaker 3: northeast of Montreal. The weapons high explosive detonated on impact,
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  Speaker 3: although lacking its es central plutonium core the explosion did
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  Speaker 3: scatter nearly one hundred pounds of uranium.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, tuy, not great, not like catastrophic, No, man, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Just uraniums. This little uranium, Just a.
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  Speaker 1: Little uranium, right, just a sprinkle, you know, like Salt
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  Speaker 1: Bay level. Unfortunately, you know, as you established, there were
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  Speaker 1: many more Broken Arrow events, fifteen more throughout the nineteen fifties,
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  Speaker 1: and we're not sure how many during the nineteen sixties.
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  Speaker 1: Because this is the height of the Cold War, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of secrecy on both sides of the curtain.
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  Speaker 1: And Tzaria Gorvette you mentioned earlier, talks a bit about
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  Speaker 1: the concept of mutually assured destruction with the Soviet Union.
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  Speaker 1: This is the time of the Dead Hand. Remember we
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  Speaker 1: did a stuff. They'll want you a new episode on that.
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  Speaker 1: The dead Hands system that the Soviet Union had and
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  Speaker 1: Russia probably still has at this to this day, is
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  Speaker 1: a thing that is designed to instantly retaliate against a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear strike, even if Moscow is wiped out. It's very,
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  Speaker 1: very spooky stuff. People were rightly terrified, and because both
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  Speaker 1: sides felt like they were on the brink of a
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  Speaker 1: war at any given moment, the US made the decision
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  Speaker 1: to keep airplanes armed with nuclear weapons in.
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  Speaker 2: The sky.
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  Speaker 1: At all time, all year round. Twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna have some birds in the sky with nukes,
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  Speaker 1: and they do that for eight years in an operation
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  Speaker 1: with a hilariously dumb name chrome dome.
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  Speaker 2: Chrome dome. Why not? That's fun. Isn't a chrome dome
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  Speaker 2: like sort of a I mean, it's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: term of abuse for a bald person.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought chrome dome for some reason, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: of like implants in someone's head.
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  Speaker 3: I think calling someone a chrome dome because speech, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a larious it's it's like figure.
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  Speaker 2: Mean towards like Jonathan Strickland. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: So, uh, this is kind of funny because the inspiration
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  Speaker 4: of this episode came from me playing fall at four.
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  Speaker 4: But chrome Dome is what they called the Gen one
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  Speaker 4: since and fall at four, you know those creepy robots
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  Speaker 4: that show up and try to kill you, pretty sure
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  Speaker 4: they're chrome domes. And you know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: nuke jokes in Fallouts, such as you know, the like
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  Speaker 4: devastating weapons called the fat Man, which is the name
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  Speaker 4: of the nukes that got dropped on.
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  Speaker 2: And Little Boy. Yeah, and in the game it's like
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  Speaker 2: a personal nuke. It's like shot. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, just also, just just to clarify, to chrome,
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  Speaker 3: dumb is in fact a bald person. Specifically, it's idiomatic, indelicate,
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  Speaker 3: and offensive. According to dictionary dot.
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  Speaker 1: Org, we are against prejudice, of course, in any form here,
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  Speaker 1: bald people are still people, right, right, right, And.
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  Speaker 4: Even if their names trickland, I mean, Jonathan, don't want
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  Speaker 4: to say lost name many times and all I'm showing
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  Speaker 4: up or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's be careful. We're on the precipice across
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  Speaker 1: that rubicon. So where are these broken arrows happening all
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  Speaker 1: over the place? South Dakota, Maryland, Texas, California, North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, Indiana, Ohio. Also, of course, is Savannah, George.
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  Speaker 3: It's right, Savannah, Georgia, the Redneck Riviera. Okay, that's not
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  Speaker 3: quite right, but it is. It's a riviera of sorts.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Redneck riv Era is like myrtle beach, right.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you know. It's a state of mind exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It's like salt life.
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  Speaker 3: Savannah is really cool, though, it's kind of our own
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  Speaker 3: little New Orleans, I said, this here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got there. It's A'm embarrassed already, but I
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  Speaker 2: can't take it back.
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  Speaker 3: It's just sort of New Orleans ask you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a history of piracy because of its proximity,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to the ocean. So there is like a
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  Speaker 3: really cool kind of goofy restaurant called the Pirates House.
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  Speaker 3: I remember there where you can get I just remember,
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  Speaker 3: like I was a weird kid. I really liked escargo.
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  Speaker 3: I still do like it. It's snails. Grew up eating
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  Speaker 3: it in Germany, where it was called schnecken. I've never could.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually, you know, what you can get in the
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  Speaker 3: can not bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing Lord and Vogelbaum and I used to
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  Speaker 1: do stack stuff. Yeahes cargo has been unfairly maligned. We
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  Speaker 1: promise you it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a sponge for garlic butters.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And if you you know what, if you eat oysters
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  Speaker 1: or clams, the boogers of the sea, you have no
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  Speaker 1: you have nothing to stand on if you condemn enjoyers
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  Speaker 1: of vest cargoes.
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  Speaker 3: Snails are just a little cheerier than an oyster. Somewhere
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  Speaker 3: between the consistency of like a calamari uh and and
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  Speaker 3: an oyster. But I find them to be delightful anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Pirates House has them. Childhood Memory, Savannah, Georgia a beautiful place,
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  Speaker 3: Tybee Island, all of that good stuff, but also home
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  Speaker 3: to a buried nuke if I'm not mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna We're gonna get to that one now.
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  Speaker 1: This is gonna be a two part episode, folks. We
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  Speaker 1: just want you to know that they are way more
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  Speaker 1: of these out there than you would reasonably assume. And
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  Speaker 1: they're not limited to the United States either, right.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're definitely not. We've got some, you know,
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  Speaker 3: throughout the Pacific Ocean. And Paul maris Spain in a toolul.
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  Speaker 3: How do you say that? Is that in Greenland or something?
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  Speaker 3: What is the White Sea? Which is Scannon Scandinavian green
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  Speaker 3: What is perhaps dol To? I don't know that one man.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see I would I have been saying dool But
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  Speaker 1: we're not from Greenland, so let's give it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's give it a go. Here, we'll actually just play this.
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  Speaker 1: We are looking at how to pronounce the name of
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  Speaker 1: the Swedish company.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love this and that.
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  Speaker 1: Owns a collection of brands related to outdoor and transportation problems.
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  Speaker 2: So delightful do you say it? You may think it
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  Speaker 2: could be Thule or we did without all of these things.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, probably because it is a Swedish company.
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  Speaker 2: This is to be said as truly reason.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, well cool, we learned something, thanks Internet guy.
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  Speaker 2: Probably because it is a Swedish company.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, with also sort of an indiscernible accent, because for
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  Speaker 3: a minute I.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, is this guy Swedish?
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  Speaker 3: But then he says it as though the Swedes are
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  Speaker 3: another Yeah, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: You know we're gonna learn more about that guy.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, the these broken arrows are all around. There
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  Speaker 1: are even a few incidents that remain highly classified today,
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  Speaker 1: such as a little bit of a food bar situation
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. And then on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the Iron Curtain, we've got reports of Soviet
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  Speaker 1: broken arrows because they were making some of the same
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  Speaker 1: mistakes that Uncle Sam was making.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So enter the Golden Age of excess, the nineteen seventies.
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  Speaker 3: That's when the wave of peace and love and hippie
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  Speaker 3: good vibes broke.
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  Speaker 2: As me paraphrasing Hunter S. Thompson very poorly. And also
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  Speaker 2: the other other thing that broke in the nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Seventies arrows, baby, oh the broken arrow get it.
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  Speaker 2: That was my attempt at transition.
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  Speaker 3: Atomic archive dot Org once again talks about a couple
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  Speaker 3: of incidents in the seventies. So seventies was like exactly
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  Speaker 3: the golden age of broken arrows. Four however, in the
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  Speaker 3: eighty three of which to your point, ben were Soviet
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  Speaker 3: and we've got four more in the combined decades that followed.
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  Speaker 3: Max comes in hot with the facts here, saying there
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  Speaker 3: are two ways that we know about broken arrows. One
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  Speaker 3: of them is that it's too big of a story
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  Speaker 3: for you know, the government to hush up. The second
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  Speaker 3: is from classified data that has been declassified and when
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  Speaker 3: the first point would be it would be some sort
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  Speaker 3: of incident or event that was like observed, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just it's too big to keep quiet.
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  Speaker 1: We're near a major city or community, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of people see a plane crash, What are you
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to tell them?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly?
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  Speaker 3: And again declassified classified documents. To the point we've been
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  Speaker 3: kind of hitting at this whole time, there are probably
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  Speaker 3: more of these that we don't know about yet. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: these documents haven't been declassified. That takes time one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: You know why because if someone is directly responsible and
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  Speaker 1: they fumbled the nuclear football, then you want to wait
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  Speaker 1: till they're retired or dead totally so they don't get embarrassed.
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  Speaker 1: But this let's you mentioned Spain, so that's the home
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  Speaker 1: of one of the most famous broken arrowcases. It's nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty six, the golden age for losing nuclear weapons, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Zaria Gorvette for BBC Future. She writes.
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  Speaker 1: It was a mild winter's morning at the height of
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  Speaker 1: the Cold War on January seventeenth, nineteen sixty six, at
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  Speaker 1: around ten thirty am, a Spanish shrimp fisherman watched a
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  Speaker 1: misshapen white parcel fall from the sky and glide towards
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  Speaker 1: the sea. It had something to hang him beneath it.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't make out what it was. He saw a
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  Speaker 1: slip beneath the waves, and then in a nearby fishing
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  Speaker 1: village Palomades, they looked up and from their perspective they
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  Speaker 1: saw two giant fireballs hurtling toward them and explosions ensued.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you call a big story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, two giant fireballs hurling towards people. So yeah, this,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the quaint solitude of this tiny berg was absolutely upended.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Also, I kind of jump in here. I cut a
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: line out of this because they got a little too graphic.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: But there was other stuff hurling at them too.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: That we will just leave it. Was it poop? No, No,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know why my mind went straight to poop.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Body parts.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say yes to you that ben okay, okay,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: but body parts?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Got it? Got it?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Well, that was a diplomat. I'm sorry I led with poop.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Guys. That was just the child in me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: It's a fair questions quest share on the planes for
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: a long time. It has to go start somewhere.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It's true. So the building ground shook.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: You know, there's you know, flying pieces of of boop
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: boop potentially, and when we're not confirming nor denying, Yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: all right, I'll take as far as this is a
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: joke is going to go.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Shrapnel, right, the stuff that the stuff, what's what slices? Oh?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I learned a dumb fact about shrapnel. Would you like
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to hear it?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Uh, it is invented the inventor of shrapnel is a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: guy whose name is I kid you not Henry Shrapnel.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That's amazing and that's what he's known for. Now, that's cool,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: do you think?
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like people like famous doctors whose names get associated
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: with like horrible diseases.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Sure, that's kind of a bummer, right, Like how or
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just uh public figures like they did Lou Garrick dirty?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: He really did?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's his legacy is no longer being an
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: amazing sports baller.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what sport he played. Was a baseball?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Was baseball? Was? He has nowhere war an als shirt?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Right now? Did you do the Brice Bucket challenge? Oh?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Stand up the best? Uh so yeah, that's a good point.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: We're all over the place right now, just like broken
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: arrow situations, just like these nukes. So, like you said,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Uncle Sam can't keep this quiet. They tried to, but
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: they definitely can't. The story is already too big. It's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: an entire village. Everyone's seen this. Newspapers are reporting rumors
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: for terrible accidents. Shortly thereafter, they're saying two US planes
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: collided in mid air and they scattered not one, not two,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: but four twenty eight thermonuclear bombs across the area. I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: was sure it was going to be three, right, we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: skipped three? They found three? Okay, they found three? See
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: of the four? Okay, got it? That is why out
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: man one of them sank into into the sea. Uh
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and and was lost beneath the waves of the Mediterranean.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Uh.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And now it was game on to to to get
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: down in there and find it. So this thing, it
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: was a one point one mega ton. I always love
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: that megaton is sort of spelled like British style, Yes,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: like t O N n E. Whenever we use the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: word ton to refer to a measurement. Isn't it just
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: spelled t O n Yeah?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It's a US v U K thing, right, And I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: like mega ton just because to me it sounds like
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it's an anime.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Isn't mega ton the name of a city or a settlement?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And fallout as well? I don't know you guys, do
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you guys know more of sky Rim kids? Nearly certain
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it is? Yeah? Which one is that? It's not? It's not?
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Isn't it the ship? Isn't it that the the big
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: old repurposed U warship?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: No?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: No, no, No, Mega ton is the is the is
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the place that you go very first in the game.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I think the prid wind is the zeppelin and four.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the mayor or the sheriff of Megaton is
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: this fella with like a totally goofy western hat on
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: and like a kind of a mad max vest and
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you you interact with him.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: He's an NPC that you hang out with character. That's right. Yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: we're giant nerds. Sorry, we keep bouncing on this one.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: We're having fun with what is ultimately kind of a
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: heavy topic at the end of the day, the fact
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: that any one country or group possesses this technology.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: By the way, looking forward to checking out the Barbie movie.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Uh and of courseheim on the same day.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Perhaps, But it's wild that that any that it could.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: There could ever be a situation where something with this
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: much destructive power could just be whoop seed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: You knows, it's wild.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: One megaton is a unit of explosive force that equals
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: one metric tons of T and T, so when we
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: talk about something that is a mega ton warhead million
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: metric tons. Yeah, it's just we have to remember it's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: terrifying that these things exist, even when we know where
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they are, right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, let's picture somebody holding a single stick of dynamite. Okay,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: remember it kept happening in Loss where they had that
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: unstable dynamite and inevitably somebody bumped it and then just
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: got blown up. And it was like with one or
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: two sticks. You know, this is million tons of those.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I mean this, this is the force to decimate cities, obliterate.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I mean if anybody wants to truly experience a very
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: very accurate depiction of what this is like, and you
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: want to watch it as a cartoon, highly recommend the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: anime film Barefoot Gin. It is incredibly messed up and sad,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: but it is beautiful and it really does. There's a
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: sequence where a nuke goes off where it just shows
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and very graphic detail what would happen.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And the US military, the world's militaries are aware of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the dangers inherent in this kind of technology and weaponry,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: so they want to get their nuke back, and the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: military sends a crack team of experts to search the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: bottom of the Mediterranean for this nuke. One of the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: members of this team is a guy named Philip Myers.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Myers and his crew are thinking out of the box.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: They're trying to imagine any possible way they can find
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this nuke. So they get they get some help from
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: some weird sources. Two crazy inventions. One is some is
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it a weird idea made up in the eighteenth century
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: by an amateur mathematician who used to be a Presbyterian minister,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and it helps people use information about past events to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: calculate the probability of them happening in the future.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Beijian inference, I believe. Is that how
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that's pronounced?
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: And then just you know, we're we're not math surgeons
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: here a ridiculous history, but it is, according to the interwebs,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a method of statistical inference in which this theorem Bayes'
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: theorem is used to update the product probability for a
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: hypothesis as more evidence or information becomes available. Beyesian inference
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: is an important technique in statistics, and especially in mathematical statistics. Cool,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I feel dumber somehow. Yeah, they definitely were thinking outside
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: of the nuclear box.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were saying, okay, maybe this will help
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: us predict where the bomb ultimately landed, like where it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: sank that's right, because it's a needle.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: In a Hayes one hundred percent.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: And then we have the delightfully named Alvin, which whenever
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I see that where I can't help but say it
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: in Dave's angry voice, you know, from the Chipmunker. But gosh,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: this is kind of prescient for some news of events.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: A cutting edge deep sea ocean submarine able to dive
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to unprecedented depths, described as looking like a rotund white shark.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And I have people in it. And this is in
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the sixties.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Why are these startup douchebags imploding people in the two thousands.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Because they're going down much, much further and they're skipping
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: safety checks.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: It was a bit of a rhetorical question.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: And I just want to point out I wrote this
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: before that all happened, so no one accused me of
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: writing some bad taste.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It was fallout that motivated nobody. And it's an important fact.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's an important fact because bays and inference is the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: theory that informs their search, and Alvin is the vessel
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that takes them there. They do find this miss nuke.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It's on March first, nineteen sixty six, and from the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: declassified imagery. What you can see is that the the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: tip of the missing nuclear weapon is covered by a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: white parachute that it partially deployed, and it tangled itself
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: up with the nuke with the missile, and uh.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Looked kind of like a spooky ghost, isn't it. That's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: what they're saying.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm still blown away by this sub.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: You know, existing in nineteen sixty six, in the way
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that they can find this. Yeah, it's Iran a million,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it's a lot.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And they certainly they were basically using maths and this
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the sub, you know, and it's not like they had
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: crazy cameras or anything unmanned you know, vessels. You know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: this is sata really wild and really you know, enterprising.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently you know how those those nukes when
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: they deploy them, they often have a parachute.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Sure, so that, like you said, the thing was wrapped.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Around and it had this billowy They described it actually
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: in the piece for BBC Future as.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: A ghostly shroud, ghostly shroud.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Well, and here's where it gets even weirder, Folks, finding
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the nuke is not the same thing as retrieving the nuke.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: They know where it is and the odds were against them,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and now Philip Myers and his team have to figure
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: out how to get this bomb out of the ocean
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: floor where it's thousands of feet into the depths, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: they have to do it without detonating the thing. So
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: they they tried they basically do if this is old school,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: but if you've ever locked yourself out of a car
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: and used like.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: A gym to get under and then.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, close Hagler for sure that they tried to do
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that with the with a nuclear weapon. The way they
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: describe it is, we improvise a kind of fishing line
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: out of thousands of feet of heavy duty nylon rope
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and a metal hook at the end, just like breaking
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: into a car or try or trying to use those
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm standing up trying to use those claw machine arcade
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: claw machine.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: That's what they tried to do really quickly. Bet why
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: did the thing not detonate?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Aren't these things often like in these days on some
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: sort of pressure change detonator or like how is it
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: literally it's not a button do you hit? Is it
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: like remote controlled? Fully, I'm just different ones. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: it's a good question.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: So I know on this one or at least around
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: this time, there was like a switch that had to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: be had to be switched for like the material for
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: the bond to really come together to actually build a detonate.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: So a lot of these cases it hadn't been switched
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: so like the stuff, they were separate elements had him
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: been pushed together.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: It's like you drop this thing.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: There's you know, the first one that the high matter
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: explosion went off, but since there.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Wasn't actually I don't think any uranium in it. There wasn't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a lot of them.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: They'll say a nuclear detonation was not possible ICEE, which
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: is like safety, which is one of the safety measures
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: protecting it, which is good. We have one of them
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: down the road, and we tell you, guys, right now
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: where that safety measure fails.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we're going to get to it again. These
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: are the B twenty eight thermonuclear bombs. There are a
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: couple of different variants. But even though it hasn't detonated,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and even though the team has been briefed on the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: danger of these things, they're still, you know, rightly kind
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of terrified. Meyers says, we were going very slowly, very cautiously,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and there's a funny line here. This guy feels like
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: he's cool to hang out with. Yeah, he says, So.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: We just kind of waited around.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: We were anxious, We wanted to we wanted to figure
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: out what we would do if we actually were able
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to hoist it out of the water. And things go
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: wrong because they lift this thing from the ocean floor
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and the parachute, which is in play, is slowing down
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the effort because think about it now, it's a parachute
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: working in the.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Water in reverse.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing too, man, I was already blown
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: away by the existence of this manned deep sea sub,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the small deep sea sub. They this doesn't work, They
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: ultimately fail. They deploy another kind of sub a month later,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: that is robotic. I would not have thought in the
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: sixties they would even have the ability to have remote
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: controlled robotic subs. It just goes to show, yes, but
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: also goes to show how much like the government holds
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: back from the consumer availability or from.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, from even just like they're
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: always a couple steps ahead.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Oh of course, Yeah, the technological suppression is real. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: they had to use this robotic sub because Alvin or
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: little Alvin was almost stuck down there, tangled in the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: parachute with the missing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: New wa Why didn't they send the robot in the
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: first place. It seems like that would have been the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: smart move.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was still very experimental. Maybe you know, I.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you say, given the time period, something like that
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: would be very ahead of its time.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so. Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So that's one example of a successful retrieval of a
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: broken arrow. What happens is the RoboSub is controlled by
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a cable. It's able to grab the bomb by its
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: parachute and haul it up, and then they had to
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: disarm it. They managed to do it. It's a harrowing,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: terrifying process. But it's one of the most successful broken
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: arrow cases. And as we're going to see, maybe maybe
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: we finished part one talking a little bit more about
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the less successful cases here, because there are a number
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of lost or broken arrows. So, like we said earlier,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: how many broken arrows are out there, it depends on
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: who you ask. It's really tough to tell because a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: lot of this is still classified. Some folks say it's six,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: some say it's three, and some say many, many more.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: It kind of.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Also depends on how you want to define it. So
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: if you don't have all the components installed on a weapon,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: on a missile or a bomb, then does it count as.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: A broken arrow? Ah?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, if it's like a training session, you got a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: dummy bomb there, then does I feel like this stuff
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: is dangerous enough that it should still count? You know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like how you always treat a gun like it's loaded,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: even if it's a prop.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Exactly, Yeah, Because I mean, as we know, sometimes when.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: People think it's just a problem, it can still put
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: one right in your dumb.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Oh your chrome dough Yeah, indeed your chrome dome. Props
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to the bald community.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So the first of the first of these lost arrows
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: is from our initial example. It's from the February thirteenth,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty B thirty six bomber incident where they had
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that engine trouble and the US military said, Okay, no
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: matter what happens, we're not going to have a crash
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: with a nuclear warhead on US soil. So drop the bomb,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the fat Man thirty kiloton Mark four into the Pacific Ocean.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And according to the official report, the bomb like you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you had said earlier, and all the bomb didn't have
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that plutonium core you need for a nuclear detonation, so
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: some of the more pedantic people will say it doesn't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: count as a broken arrow.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Another case, on March the tenth of nineteen fifty six
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: took place around six years after that first bomb was lost. Too.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Nuclear cores from a B forty seven bomber were lost
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: when that plane.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Crashed into the Mediterranean. Once again, it's Mediterranean. It's really
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: lousy with this stuff. It's a nukesponge. Yes, so perhaps
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it had to do with the flight path.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: It was specifically making the journey from McDill Air Force
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Base in Florida to Ben Gerreer Air Force Base in Morocco.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It did it one of those really badass aerial refuels.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: We're so cool, the pipe kind of comes down, they
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Hovered's what a neat maneuver. But it failed to make
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: contact with a tanker for an additional refueling and was
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: then reported missing with the plane right.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't know what kind of NUKA was carrying,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: but we do know the B forty seven, this type
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of plane at this time usually had a thirty four
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: hundred kilogram Mark fifteen nuclear bomb, and to this day,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: no trace of the bomb nor the plane have ever
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: been found. So Mediterranean scavengers, treasure hunters, now it's your time.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Indeed, is that the kind of I don't know, man,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: do you think do you think they are like amateur
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: nuke hunters?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: You really?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I guess, I guess it'd be a bit. But to
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: what end as an artifact or like for nefarius nefarious things.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Some of it nefarious, some of it just for the glory,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like eccentric treasure hunters.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: The final bomb that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Got lost, the final of the three lost and never recovered,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: occurred sometime in the beginning of nineteen sixty eight. It
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: was the USS Scorpion, a nuclear sub that sank about
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: four hundred miles southwest of the Azores, and almost one
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: hundred people died ninety nine crew members. No one survived
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: on the sub. It was also carrying a pair of
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: nuclear tipped weapons, which yield like two hundred and fifty kilotons,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: So immensely dangerous. And that's just part of the worry
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  Speaker 1: right now, you know what, No, we've gotta got to
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  Speaker 1: call this our two parter, gotta get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. I gotta tell you I love this stuff.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I am I will rewatch Broken Arrow for you, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna see.
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  Speaker 2: Listen if I consider a seminal.
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  Speaker 3: I use that term very very liberally. I have not
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  Speaker 3: seen the film since it came out. It does currently
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  Speaker 3: whole day. I think two and a half star rating
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  Speaker 3: on IMDb.
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  Speaker 2: Check. I did check, and I was right about the cast.
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  Speaker 3: I remember practically nothing about the movie other than that
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  Speaker 3: is where I first.
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  Speaker 2: Learned the term Broken Arrow outside of the Brian Adams song.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I remember liking it because I
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: love those kind of movies when I was a kid.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember which film John Travolta, this is
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Dary in his like face off villain face.
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  Speaker 2: Right around there. Yeah, I'm trying to remember what the
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: film was where he was a hacker with a ponytail.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Was this swordfish? I didn't see sword Is that a thing?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It is a thing.
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  Speaker 4: Remember him being a hacker with a pony hill? And
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea, So I'm gonna say swordfish.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well we'll see. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: That is clearly, you know, maybe not the most important
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  Speaker 1: mystery of today's show. I think that prize goes to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the missing nuclear weapons but please tune in for part two, folks,
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  Speaker 1: We have much more to explore. Big big thanks to
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  Speaker 1: our super producer and research associate for today's episode, mister
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Max Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Huge thanks to Alex Williams who composed this Slam and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: jam and bam and bob you're listening to at this
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  Speaker 3: very moment. Chris frasciotis here in spirit, Eves Jeff Coats
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: traversing this wild world.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland aka the Quister aka the John Travolta of
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: ridiculous history.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, except no point hell which it is swordfish.
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  Speaker 3: Our personal Yeah, Crumdone would also be a really good
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: name for like a bald Bond villain m perhaps with
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: some sort of implant, like.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: A metal are a he Man action figure? Oh definitely, yeah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: no question because they really kind of with basic with
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: the universe of he Man. That's the name of the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: may character. We've talked about this, It's totally true. Why
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: is it she row anyway?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in a raw stand for it sounds like
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: a like a battle cry. Yeah, We'll see you next time.
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  Speaker 2: Books.
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