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INTERVIEW: Jermaine Dupri Talks 'Magic City: An American Fantasy,' New Album, Billboard, Mariah Carey + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Don't every day up weak click your ass up the
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You don't finished for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's d j Envy, Jess Hilarrys Charlamage the God. We
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  Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
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  Speaker 3: the building. Yes, indeed, JD Jamain dupree.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening?
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  Speaker 4: How you feeling?
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  Speaker 5: You're looking at the wall, looking at the wall.
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  Speaker 4: We ain't got j D on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I made the wall.
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  Speaker 4: That's all right, that's where you got JD on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all got me up there.
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  Speaker 6: See the wall represents like iconic breakfast club moments.
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  Speaker 5: Not that you haven't given us great interviews. I haven't
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  Speaker 5: had it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: You have had some you know studio.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out of that. I'm not that comsation.
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  Speaker 5: But you have always coming in and gave giving us
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  Speaker 5: great conversation. Man.
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  Speaker 6: And I've been enjoying the Magic City docuseries and it
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  Speaker 6: got me to thinking about like just Atlanta. Like in
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  Speaker 6: Atlanta's had a lot of different runs as far as
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  Speaker 6: music is concerned.
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  Speaker 5: But what is Atlanta culture exactly? Is it? This? Is
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  Speaker 5: it the script clubs?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that that's one of the things skating, you know,
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  Speaker 7: And you know, I think like it's a bunch of
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  Speaker 7: different things, like the base music and a bunch of
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  Speaker 7: different things. But we haven't we've never really highlighted these
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  Speaker 7: things the way I guess I'm trying to do and
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  Speaker 7: make sure that people understand that that's what it is,
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  Speaker 7: because I think like people think, like even with the
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  Speaker 7: strip club situation, it was me and whoever else was
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  Speaker 7: promoting this from a long time ago, just black people
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  Speaker 7: trying to promote strip clubs. And you learned from the
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  Speaker 7: documentary that this this was a law that was passed
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  Speaker 7: in the city and might be more states in this
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  Speaker 7: you know South, that nudity was something that they opened
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  Speaker 7: the floodgates and made it a business.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So even me growing.
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  Speaker 7: Up, I never realized why it was so many strip
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  Speaker 7: clubs in Atlanta. It was a strip club, damn on
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  Speaker 7: every corner in every hood in Atlanta, and I never understood.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought we was just a strip club place.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look.
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  Speaker 7: At this documentary, you start going outside and looking at
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  Speaker 7: all the other places, like in Florida and all these
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  Speaker 7: other places. You're like, oh, it's a law that was passed, right,
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  Speaker 7: And I used to come to like New York when
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  Speaker 7: we used to do things and wherever. I go to
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  Speaker 7: other cities and be like, man, why these cities ain't
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  Speaker 7: popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs. And the law
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  Speaker 7: is a real law that gave us the entryway to
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  Speaker 7: just have this going.
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  Speaker 2: So there, that's a that's an Atlanta thing. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's Magic City, the biggest strip club and the most
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  Speaker 3: recognized trip club in the US.
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  Speaker 4: To you what you think, what your thoughts on it?
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  Speaker 7: Nah, I think I mean, I think it's been It's
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  Speaker 7: been a couple you know, over the years. I think
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  Speaker 7: Magic is in the top three, of course, but like
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  Speaker 7: Booby trapping, Miami, King of Diamonds when I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 7: Miami's always had you know what I mean, They've always
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  Speaker 7: had these trip clubs turn over and be live. I
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  Speaker 7: think that's Houston. So I think Houston, it's a couple
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  Speaker 7: of places that's got. But I don't think Houston can
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  Speaker 7: get naked though.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 7: It's like we're talking about Nudy is Flord's strip clubs
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  Speaker 7: is Miami.
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  Speaker 5: And.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Atlanta was nudy, nudity.
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  Speaker 6: Atlanta need that infrastructure. Now, That's what when I think
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  Speaker 6: about Magic City. I know people look at it as
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  Speaker 6: just a teddy ball, but when I'm watching The Doctor,
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  Speaker 6: even just growing up, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think of it as infrastructure. People with the break record,
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  Speaker 5: I want.
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  Speaker 7: To say, I mean, that's the that's the thing. Like
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  Speaker 7: I was going to answer your question. The reason why
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  Speaker 7: I wanted to do it is because, you know, we
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  Speaker 7: don't talk about the places that actually helped us get
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  Speaker 7: to where we are.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That part of hip hop
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  Speaker 2: stopped a long time ago.
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  Speaker 7: Like when you watch like Why Style, right when there's
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  Speaker 7: a person that's not from New York.
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  Speaker 2: I watched Wild Style.
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  Speaker 7: You can see like how Grandmaster cads them what they
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  Speaker 7: was doing to become and made what made hip hop
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  Speaker 7: turn into what it was here in New York. And
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  Speaker 7: in the later years of hip hop, what shows or anything,
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  Speaker 7: show kids what how we got?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, how we got to where
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  Speaker 2: we are?
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  Speaker 7: And I think that, you know, it's important for black
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  Speaker 7: establishments to show like it's a forty year old black establishment.
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  Speaker 7: The owner went to jail, they tried to sell his property.
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  Speaker 7: He took it back over and now it's back popping.
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  Speaker 7: Then that he got a TV show Like that's American dream,
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  Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Like, regardless of whatever good
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  Speaker 7: or bad, it's a Black American dream that we don't
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  Speaker 7: ever really be talking.
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  Speaker 6: About infrastructure now, huh is it needed?
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  Speaker 5: Now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: I mean we needed more than any everybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: not just Atlanta, like a bunch of cities need to.
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  Speaker 7: It's probably a bunch of other thats got like forty
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  Speaker 7: to fifty year old Black establishments that don't that I
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  Speaker 7: don't even know about.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think ruined strip clubs? Because at one
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  Speaker 3: time there was a strip club in every city. They
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  Speaker 3: were always big. There was fifteen in Atlanta, there was
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  Speaker 3: ten in New York. What do you think ruined the
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  Speaker 3: strip club safety?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 7: I think that's why magic stands out so much, because
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  Speaker 7: you can go in magic with all your jury on.
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  Speaker 7: You can go on magic and be the biggest star
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  Speaker 7: in the world and be standing next to the biggest
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  Speaker 7: criminal in the world. But whatever would happen somewhere else
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  Speaker 7: ain't getting ready to happen in magic. And you know,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, and I say that proudly because even me,
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  Speaker 7: I go to Magic without security, like because the security
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  Speaker 7: in there gonna take care of me like they like
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  Speaker 7: if they was working for me. And I feel like
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  Speaker 7: it's the safest club in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like that.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like the safety of strip clubs and how
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  Speaker 7: Magic ran the club strip club atiquette, I think that
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  Speaker 7: is that that's what killed strip clubs for the most part.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I notice, you know, growing up, when we used
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  Speaker 3: to go to strip clubs, you go with a couple
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  Speaker 3: of dollars, right, and you would you will be fine
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  Speaker 3: all night.
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  Speaker 4: That's totally changed that.
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  Speaker 7: That's just your mental okay, right, that's just people's mental space, right,
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  Speaker 7: because I go to the club now and you know,
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  Speaker 7: I don't if the if Magic City is like overly crowded,
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  Speaker 7: I'll go stand by the bar and I might spend
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  Speaker 7: five one hundred to one thousand dollars, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, Katie, that's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about a hundred dollars a thousand dollars at the bar.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, let me put this in perspective, said,
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  Speaker 2: what's happened the other night when Chris Brown was in Atlanta?
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  Speaker 2: They spent two hundred thousand dollars in Magic City.
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  Speaker 7: So my little five hundred to a thousand that corner
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  Speaker 7: is like one hundred dollars man space, because I have.
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  Speaker 5: When people say those numbers and I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 5: believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God, I mean godred thousand, God a
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  Speaker 2: hundred went to Chris, right.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen people bore one hundred thousand singles.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean one hundred went to Chris without a doubt.
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  Speaker 7: And magic in magic they go when you when you
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  Speaker 7: order the money, they bring a Magic City bag backas
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  Speaker 7: for you backpack. So the backpack had a hundred in it.
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  Speaker 7: Jada Waiter, y'all know, Ja, she got about a dog right.
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  Speaker 7: I think maybe more p from QC. I think he
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  Speaker 7: ordered forty right then, and that you know, that's that's
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  Speaker 7: one sixty right there. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Chris by himself had one hundred, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: So if you start splitting it up, I think Booo
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  Speaker 7: probably got ten and fifteen to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: You were two hundred fast.
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  Speaker 6: So when you was in the back of the day
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  Speaker 6: with BMF, how much did you see them spend that.
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  Speaker 7: One on my album, I have a conversation with Meech
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  Speaker 7: and he says he spent six hundred thousand dollars one night.
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  Speaker 4: That's insanity, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: What's the most you spent with Janet? What did you spend?
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  Speaker 7: I mean I had a I had a limit, like
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  Speaker 7: when everybody heard me say I spend ten thousand, that
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  Speaker 7: was my limit. So once I got to that ten,
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  Speaker 7: I wasn't trying. But by the way, I'm not in
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  Speaker 7: there trying to compete. I always felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: at one point in time when BMF came well, when
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  Speaker 7: BMF grew, because I've been in the club with meet
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  Speaker 7: for a long time before BMF was a crew like that,
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  Speaker 7: and we used to be at the Gentlemen's Club back
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  Speaker 7: and when you watched the episode where Magic supposedly was
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  Speaker 7: burnt down or whatever, and everybody went to the Gentlemen's Club,
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  Speaker 7: that's back in the period of time when I actually
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  Speaker 7: met Meech, and Meech didn't have the crew, the crew
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  Speaker 7: of people with him, and we was in the Gentleman's
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  Speaker 7: Club and then the Gentlemen's Club. It wasn't about it
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  Speaker 7: wasn't it was like what he saying, We wasn't really
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  Speaker 7: throwing the money. We was just like giving the girls
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  Speaker 7: the money, right. And that's that's where I that's where
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  Speaker 7: the whole confusion about who started throwing the money came from,
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  Speaker 7: because I start I started doing this in Money and
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  Speaker 7: the Thing video, And I know people want to.
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  Speaker 2: Say they did it and did it.
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  Speaker 7: Will you find a video that came out before Money
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  Speaker 7: and any thing where you see rappers throwing money like this, right?
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  Speaker 7: And that I never had a like, it wasn't about
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  Speaker 7: me trying to challenge nobody. It got it got to
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  Speaker 7: be like when Meaching them crew came and it was like,
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  Speaker 7: oh damn, they throwing more money, we gotta throw It
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  Speaker 7: became like a money wore.
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  Speaker 2: I was never I was never part of that.
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  Speaker 6: I was thinking about you too, man, watching the documentary,
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  Speaker 6: because especially thinking about everything that's going on in Atlanta. Now,
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  Speaker 6: did you purpose because you was outside, you was outside
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  Speaker 6: connected with everybody? Did you purposely stay away from rappers
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  Speaker 6: that were too in the street?
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I just I'm not. I'm not a street guy
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  Speaker 2: like that. I mean what I mean, I'm.
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  Speaker 7: Like, I'm a real hip hop person, right, a purist basically, right,
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  Speaker 7: And I don't believe that you should be rapping about
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  Speaker 7: shit that you don't actually do.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I've been that guy. Right.
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  Speaker 7: If you ain't in the jury and you ain't do it,
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  Speaker 7: don't talk about it. If you ain't flying, you don't
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  Speaker 7: be getting, then don't be making raps about it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And I ain't never had no reason to talk
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  Speaker 2: about me selling no dope.
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  Speaker 7: That ain't That just ain't been my life, right, I
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  Speaker 7: ain't come up like that.
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  Speaker 5: What about signing an artist that.
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  Speaker 2: I have signed artists like that. I mean, Brat smoke
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  Speaker 2: more weed than Damnar Snoop Dog.
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  Speaker 7: But you know what I mean, it wasn't like it
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  Speaker 7: wasn't from a drug dealer perspective.
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  Speaker 2: It's from an actual stoner.
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  Speaker 7: Perspective, right, I just think the perspective of how we
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  Speaker 7: I never was trying to sell, like I said, selling
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  Speaker 7: selling drugs.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, you know all the artists I think
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  Speaker 2: Damn It talked about.
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  Speaker 7: I mean that franchise boys, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 7: White Tea is about dope boys, like all of that.
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  Speaker 7: All the music, I just think it's it's also camouflaged
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  Speaker 7: in beats that make you want to dance where you're
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  Speaker 7: not paying attention.
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  Speaker 5: To it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not this dark, I'm gonna kill you type of music.
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  Speaker 5: That was the other thing about Magic City too. Why
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  Speaker 5: are script clubs?
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  Speaker 6: Why are you able to break records in script clubs
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  Speaker 6: but not liking the regular club. And the regular club
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  Speaker 6: you got to play the records that keep the party going.
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  Speaker 6: But in the script club you can try new shit.
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  Speaker 7: Why is it Because in any lounge setting, music is
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  Speaker 7: just played right. It's just like almost like getting on
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  Speaker 7: the elevator. When you get on the elevator, you don't
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  Speaker 7: care what the music is. They play all kind of
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  Speaker 7: music in the elevation. Especially when you go like the Vegas,
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  Speaker 7: you hear all kinds of stuff and you're like, you
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  Speaker 7: might listen, you might not.
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  Speaker 2: You're having a conversation. It's the same way. If it's
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  Speaker 2: it's ultimately it's for DJ to pay attention.
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  Speaker 7: If he play a record and y'all over there talking
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  Speaker 7: and then all some somebody start moving, you can see
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  Speaker 7: at that point this was not forced, right, And I
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  Speaker 7: feel like that's the most organic thing that we still
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  Speaker 7: have left in the music business. It's like, organically, I
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  Speaker 7: didn't pay you to listen to my song, or ain't
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  Speaker 7: nobody come over there and over promote you to listen
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  Speaker 7: to my song.
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  Speaker 2: You just heard it, and you like, damn, who is that?
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  Speaker 2: Who is that?
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  Speaker 7: That's like cuevos, you know, you know you could see
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  Speaker 7: the emotional people trying to figure out what it is,
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  Speaker 7: or you see somebody in is shazam the song.
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  Speaker 2: This is actual real time at.
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  Speaker 3: One time with women band from mister Club. Thought I
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  Speaker 3: never remember because I know they would be charged now.
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  Speaker 7: It was one It was a period of time where
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  Speaker 7: none dancing females looked down on dances and the Gentleman's
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  Speaker 7: Club was a gentleman's club.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't no women in the Gentleman's Club. That's what
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  Speaker 2: it was called.
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  Speaker 7: And that's how we That was our spot, right. But
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  Speaker 7: then these ladies start figuring out, these guys are going
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  Speaker 7: to having fun, they eating, and they not calling us,
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  Speaker 7: They're not coming home.
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  Speaker 2: We want them to come home. What the hell is
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  Speaker 2: going on in this club? And then once, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: even like me with Janet, she wanted to go so bad,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm just in there having fun, kicking
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  Speaker 2: it with my guys, eating blah blah blah. And it
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  Speaker 2: was like multiple times where I was like.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going, not going, And then when we got
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  Speaker 7: to take her in that, she's like, oh, oh, I
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  Speaker 7: thought y'all was in here. I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 7: what y'all thought we was in here doing, but they
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  Speaker 7: they thought it was something else prior to them going,
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  Speaker 7: and enough of them started going and they start realizing, like, girl,
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  Speaker 7: they don't be doing nothing in there.
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  Speaker 2: They ain't having a good time.
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  Speaker 7: If you are able to just party and not pay
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  Speaker 7: attention to the girls being nicked, then you should be
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  Speaker 7: able to have a good time with your man or
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  Speaker 7: your friend or whoever that's in there. So I think
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  Speaker 7: that started right that that situation started, and then guys
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  Speaker 7: start realizing like they didn't have to lie to their
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  Speaker 7: girls either, because ain't nobody having sex in Magic City,
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  Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: They got other clubs where that might.
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  Speaker 7: Be going on, but Magic City is a full on show, right,
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  Speaker 7: It's no way for you to be in there, you
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  Speaker 7: know what I mean, doing that in that club and people.
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  Speaker 2: Not see you with nothing. So that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what's happening in that club.
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  Speaker 6: The other thing about Magic City, or just watching the
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  Speaker 6: docu Atlanta used to pride itself on having a unique sound. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: Now a lot of folks say Atlanta music just kind
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  Speaker 6: of like blends into the mainscream. Do you feel like
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  Speaker 6: the city has lost its identity or it's just a
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  Speaker 6: natural evolution.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 7: I was trying to figure out how we how we
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  Speaker 7: talk about this because I don't want people to get
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  Speaker 7: this misconscrewed about me saying, because I'm not saying anything
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  Speaker 7: about what's going on with Thug, but what's happening with
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  Speaker 7: Doug is almost making people believe that that's just that's
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  Speaker 7: all of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Atlanta has a sub culture of these female rappers
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  Speaker 7: right now with Pluto, Yk Bankro Niah, Banna Bee, and
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  Speaker 7: they have a real thing going. They have a real
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  Speaker 7: motion going, and they have a real movement going that
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  Speaker 7: is being ignored. Like right when they said, I saw
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  Speaker 7: people saying, it's no song of the summer.
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  Speaker 2: When Whammy.
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  Speaker 7: In Atlanta, it was the song of the summer, you
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  Speaker 7: know what I mean, That's that's the song of the summer.
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  Speaker 7: But for some reason, and it's the first time that's
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  Speaker 7: ever happened to me in Atlanta. So I'm saying, I'm
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  Speaker 7: trying to figure out why. But it's the first time
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  Speaker 7: that anybody else that's in the pressed. They're stealing all
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  Speaker 7: of the energy away from all of the artists that's
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  Speaker 7: out there, like we got Belly, Gang Cush, we got Swabe,
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  Speaker 7: we got all these new artists that's hot, even like
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: Jed Jig got a hot.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: New record with Sierra Earth Gang.
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: No no, no, it's not record. It's it's not the
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: label fault.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: It's actually it's actually the media that all of the
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: new artists claim that they don't want to deal with
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: by saying they don't want gatekeepers, the media is acting
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: like gatekeepers and all they're talking about all these little podcasts.
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: Guys, all they talking about this thug. If you want
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: to talk about that and that's what you got going,
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: then cool. But don't say this is Atlanta Atlanta fell off.
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: And you ain't mentioning these girls, you know what I mean.
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: And you ain't mentioning Belly, and you ain't mentioning Jed
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: new album, and you ain't talk like because that's that
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: now you now you're deterring the energy that we out
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: here putting out and making it seem like this is
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: the only thing that's happening in Atlanta, and Atlanta's never
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: been like that.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: That's a great conversation.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: You open it up because I'm sitting there thinking like
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: back in the day, we had artists who had big records,
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: and you maybe didn't know the artists yet, but at
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: some point those dots connected, like you know, white teams,
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: franchise by all of that stuff, but then.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Eventually you knew who the group was.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the disconnect, like you might hear
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: the record but not know who the artist is connected.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta they gotta work harder.
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's like I said, it's
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: still mainstream media is promoting this as ra at Atlanta,
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: Like that's not that's not that's not where I live
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: at you know what I mean. And like I said,
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: these girls, I'm just looking at these girls and I
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: managed bank Ronina and and just me coming into helping
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: her with her career. What attracted me to it is
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: that they they doing this in a hip hop way.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: They're using TikTok and whatever things means that they got
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: to get what they want and actually really creating a
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: thing in the hip hop and the only thing that's
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: missing is mainstream media paying attention to.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: I think I think that takes uh. That takes sometimes
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: people to run the circuit. Like everybody talks about the
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: clips right and they're like, yo, the clips had it's
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: one of the most genius rollouts. I'm like, that wasn't
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: a genius rollout. It was just a rollout. That's what
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: the artists used to do. So I think sometimes it
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: takes somebody like you to say, naw, we're.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Going on the circus.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: But now it was the thing even with the Franchise Boys, right,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: you took the Franchise Boys out on the road. Right,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you went from Mark de markets city to city, you
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: spoke to DJ to DJ until it connected.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: So somebody got to do that with a night and
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: it got to be you because you just more artists.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: But I get you say with Ji DJ like he
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: has to get out there and people like they know
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: his music, but do.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: They know his face as much? Same thing with Pluto.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that Pluto is out, she's outing
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: about she came on the Breakfast Club, she's doing podcasts,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: she's starting to see her face outside of her music.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: But we don't see that a lot anymore. And with
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: the thing I was going to ask you, but what's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: going on with Atlanta. I've never seen Atlanta in a
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: place where it seems like it's been so much against
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: each other because Atlanta is usually the place where everybody.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Fucks with each other. Everybody sees each other at the club,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: everybody sees each other.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Magic City, you see everybody together, whether they on good
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: terms or not there together. And I've never seen a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: land in a place where it seems like they're not connected.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: If we put the I mean, you're right both sides,
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: but if we put the eyes on these girls, they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: demonstrating what you're talking about.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: They making records of each other, They making songs.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: They putting out records every week, and it's one record
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: with Bunnabee and YK might be bent rod Nya the
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: next week and this person they put their showing that
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: they cool, they kicking it, they not beefing, even though
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: YK and Pluto kind of split, but they still out
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: here moving in a motion that shows the love that
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: what you're talking.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: About Atlanta was prior.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: And that's really what I wanted to do with my
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: album is just get back to that and just put
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: people in spaces that I didn't that I haven't seen
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: people doing. So when I put like Jay Money and
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: Sean Paul on the same that's what I was trying
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: to do. It's like, because that is how I That's
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: how I grew up seeing Atlanta.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: But people got to make the rounds that these niggas
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: ain't Beyonce and so many niggas like the drop music
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: with no promotion nobody.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Let's let's put that out there, nigga.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: Everybody got to stop doing that ship in the music business.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: Everybody got to stop doing that. I say that every
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: time the album come out, like I don't understand what
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: what what you think you're gonna get by not giving yes?
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: And once again I go back to the clips.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: The clips O g Rap Group showed everybody what you
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: supposed to do when you got a.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Project, go work all the rooms.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: Like you can't just put your ship online and expect
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: people to come come to you.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure they did.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: They were out on the street and performed in the
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: middle of Brooklyn at a block party.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: To do that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: They went to the car show, they went to concerts, they.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Did radio, they did you podcast, they did everything they
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: was to get those numbers, and it showed.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I told it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: I saw these memes going around about the VMA's this
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: past weekend this week and everybody was like, yo, this
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: is like this means saying, that's how I feel watching
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: the VMA's. You know less and less people every year,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: and that's not because you getting older. It's because a
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: lot of these people just ain't running the circuit.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Well, like everybody you just name. The only person I
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: know faces Pluto.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, but the VMA's I went, and I
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: was gonna tweet while I was there, but I was like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to because I might get in trouble.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like turning something else.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: But black culture is what is driving the internet when
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: it comes to music, right. It ain't enough black culture
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: at the VMA's for where the culture is from this
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: interviewing space, right, And I think that's a that's a
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: disconnect that you see at the VMA's and so so
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: a lot of the artists don't know if they should
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: go because they don't know, you know what I mean,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: because it's being frontloaded with like people like Paris Hilton
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: and I mean, you know, they put Lotto in an
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: what's the last I spice on there? But that's what
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: I'm saying. It's still like it's not it's like, let's
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: forget about the under the down low people that's really
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: coming up. I thought Busters should have got what he got,
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: but we should have saw somebody new, you.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Jid, Sierra, you know what I mean. They could have
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: easily performed though. I just don't think that. I just
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: don't think people are actually from the mainstream perspective of
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: paying attention to this ground swell of music that's happening.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: And then what do you do because I know for
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: a fact that first time I heard your album, I'm like, Yo, this.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Skate record goals with Sierra and Earth Game.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: When when you're a JID and you're telling the label
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: this is the record, but the label saying, nah, let's
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: go with something else. But then the label ain't servicing
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: nothing to radio.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I mean when you got to you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: like like NB nos it you saying it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You gotta bring these labels to what's going on. That
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: ain't never.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: Been a nun practice. Right when we had never scared.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: It was Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta. I threw everybody
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: to Atlanta, and my mindset was when everybody leave, everybody
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: gonna leave here saying Bone Crushes the biggest record they
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: heard in Atlanta. People left Atlanta and they were saying
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: that bone Crushing record is the big When everybody got
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: back to New York, that was what was happening in
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: their office.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Can you send me this bone crushing record? What's up
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: with that bone crush artist? Blah blah blah. You've always
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: been that's always been part of the practice. I don't
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: know why people think that these things change.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: You have to None of these people know, you know
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: what I mean, Like nobody skates, right, nobody, these older
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: people us in these labels, they're not skating. So how
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: do they know that it's a skating thing.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Going on in Atlanta? Three three days out of the week.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: What night is popping?
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: What?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: They're not even trying to go? They just thinking about music.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But we are actually selling culture inside our records and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: we're actually doing what we talked.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: It was like selling drugs if you talk about the
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: drug wrappers. That's why so many of them going to jail,
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: because it's actually real life.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: What skating rink was? It?
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Cas skating is that is that would that be the
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: equivalent of Magic City for the skating rinks in Atlanta.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: On the west side, But it's a skating rink on
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: every side. Like where I'm from, we had Sparkles and
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: we had and we got skate Town. But I think,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: like when we shot the video for Jig, is that
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: Golden Glide that's on the east side. So all of
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: like each side of Atlanta they got skating rings.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Did they break records?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I want to say that the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: first time I ever heard the Jaquess hit that he
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: had was at the skateing ring and it was on
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: like a because they do you know. The crazy part
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: about it is like R and B records, they do
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: slow skate or they do couple skate, and they don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: play no ghetto music when they do that. They actually
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: play whatever the ballad is. Right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: So I'm sure, like right now the Chris Brown record
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: probably going crazyness came round.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't been in the last you know, the last.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Couple of months, but I'm sure it goes crazy when
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: they do the couple skate and that definitely breaks music.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: You skate, No know what I'm saying I'm just saying
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: these are time I hear records.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: You didn't produce.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, we had Coach k
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: up here about a week ago. He was saying that
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the industry is missing a and.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Rs right, and we talk about it a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Do you still think that we need somebody to develop
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: these artists, to help develop these artists.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: But the an rs need somebody to develop them, you
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: know what I mean?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Like you know that that's that's the truth.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Because the problem is is that the an ars is
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: acting more like babysitters down They scared to tell the
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: artists like that shit ain't that ain't hot, And because
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: they know if they tell them, the artists might smack
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: shit at them all, or they might just the artists
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: might call a label and be like, y'all don't like him, right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So people trying to be friends with people.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: As opposed to like giving them creative criticism, and it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: not it's not helping the music, you know what I mean?
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: I I it's crazy as I was working with so
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: many artists during this album, and the artists coming to
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: school and they're like, JD, don't don't just not produce me,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: let me make me sound the best.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: So it's artists out here that want creative criticism.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: I just think it's from the They gotta people gotta
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: get back to like making sure that that's their job.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: And when you see a person, they understand that that's
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: what they're supposed to get from you.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Every time, every time I see you and I talk
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to you, I always ask you the same thing. I
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: feel like you're one of those hip hop people that
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: are underrated, right, that people forget about what you've done
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and the lineage you put out there and the people
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: that you brought out.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Do you always feel that way? And when do we?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: When does JD tell his own story in a movie
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: form where you talk about the beginning, the artist you popped,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the A and r's you, you birth, the producive, you birth,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: the sound you brought out? When does that happen? Because
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: people don't necessarily forget even to this day.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm like, dam Jady did that one?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I don't know, man, you know
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: I was thinking about this on the way up here today.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: I was like, I'm gonna see what Charlamagne I get today.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna get the.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Cool Charlamagne I'm gonna get there, you know what I mean.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: With Charlaman, I'm gonna get But last time I was here,
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: I told y'all, y'all, ain't gonna have nobody come up
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: here that would have a number one record in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: same time that I did with the Money Long Record.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: Right this time, I'm here and Billboard basically finally called me,
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: I mean named me the number one producer of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: twenty first century of hip hoppin' on be So I
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: feel like the tide is changing, you know what I mean.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: It's like I saw a bust To say something at
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: his speech the other day, like it's timing. Man, when
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: God wants you to get your flowers, he gonna give
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: them to you, you don't rush it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So I've just been sitting back waiting.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I feel like everything that you're saying, it's gonna eventually come.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: Because at the end of the day, when you look
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: at that list based on who I started with, ain't
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: none of them niggas even on the list, you know
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: what I mean, Like this a whole new list of
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: people that I'm going against based on who the guys
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: I came out with.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: So as long as I just keep doing what I'm doing.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that is one of my most
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: proud accomplishments though, to make that list, because I feel
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: like for the first time people have to really like
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: go and see why. And when you go see why,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: first of all, the list that is not comprived of
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: your heart and your stomach. It's comprived of who has
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: the most number ones in the last twenty first century.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: Them is facts, Like that's what I was telling you
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: last time we was up here. When you start dealing
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: with the stats, you know, it's a different conversation. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: I feel like if people start having to have that conversation,
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: then you know, the respect has to change at that point.
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've seen people like completely mad about Beyonce
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: being at number five on that list, But Beyonce actually
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: produces these records.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: She's telling the other people in.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: The room, like just what I want do a drop
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: right here? Just you know what I mean, that's production,
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: So you know what I mean. I mean, I've never
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: been but I'm sure.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sure.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: But even with the versus conversation. I remember the versus
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: conversation and they played you, so I don't want to
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: say he's so little. But they made it seem like
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: at the time, puff was gonna wax you, right, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: you start thinking about the amount of records you produced
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: and the hits that you did, the records that you
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: writ that you wrote, that's why.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: You were so like, let's do this, let's let's do this.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it will never happen, but is
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: that the reason why you was like I wanted you
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: wanted to do it so bad.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: It was gonna happen.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, and I want to do it here in
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: New York because I wanted, you know what I mean.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I feel like, I mean, I performed at the Tunnel.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: I done been in, I done been in the ship
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: storm of hip hop.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So it ain't none of that. Don't none of that
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: scare me, right at the end of the day.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: And I feel like that's the only way at that
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: time that people were gonna realize, like, oh, this nigga's crazy, right,
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: because if you I can't keep saying it, you know
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, it is what it is is at
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: this point if you ain't you know, I saw somebody say, oh,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: yesterday when I said something about the female rappers, like
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: I'm saying right now, and somebody come in and say, oh,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: now you want to say something good about female rappers,
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: I'm like, damn, did I not get you out of brack?
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: I have the ability to talk about female rappers more
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: than anybody because I'm the one that took the chance
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: to even try to see if it were right. But
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: people don't want to. They still want to fight it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Like, so I'm like, whatever it is, what what's the motivation?
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: One of the only things I think about this list
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: when you look at this Billboard list.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: The list name the top five, so people, but.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: I'm only gonna name top two, but you number one.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: And then when he I guess you was that's your protege, Michael,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: it's my part?
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, how did that make you feel?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I mean amazing?
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: Because you know when you think about like what people
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: say about Mike, Michael Jordan and basketball, I always use this.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: They always talk about like you can only be the
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: best on list if you can make other people.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Better, right in any business, right, I think that's the thing.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Like, so, I mean half of them songs that put
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Brian in there is the same songs that got me
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: up there.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: So it's like we make each other better.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: So I mean, that's that's the focus that we have
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: when we work and the records that we do together
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: is just that's the focus. We have a goal amongst
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: us both And if he was lower on that list,
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: I'd be mad because I'm like, it ain't no way possible,
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's been right there with me every step of the way.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: And I think too, when I think about Mariah Carey getting,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: you know, the accolade she got the other night at
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: the VMA, I don't know if that happens without you.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is Mariah had a
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: fantastic career, but that album was like a comeback album
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: that kind of solidified her forever.
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: I was talking to her about this yesterday and I
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: was saying, like, it would have happened without me, but Mariah, listen,
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: Mariah is such a New York hip hop person that
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: she wants to gravitate towards the shit right as opposed
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: to like promoting the Boys the Men record, which was
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: no song her first song of the decade, right, she
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: ain't even perform that song the other night, Like you
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like she.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Got records that's bigger than the records I did.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: That.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: She just like, yeah, you know, we gonna redly do
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: this tonight. This is what we're gonna do.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: I listen. I love it because I'm a part of it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: But don't get it twisted. These songs is you know
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: what I mean? She got records that she could do.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: That's like hero, you know what I mean, these songs
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: that's huge. That made her Mariah has sold thirty million
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: records before I even worked with her, you know what I'm.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Saying, Like that charm Bracelet and then that was it
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: was that movie called I don't even remember that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: It was a bad It was dark.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but one one black eye can't kill you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: No, that's true.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: But then you came back to the mess vision of
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: me me, and that's that's a nuclear bomb.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I mean that's not a normal album, you know.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just I always look at that like, I'm really,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I can't take credit for Mariah. She's She's who she is,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and she was who she was before.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: I you know, I'm just happy that she let me
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: be a part of the ride.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: I think that puts more pressure on you though.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is when you're tasked
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: with going in there with the iconic person already and
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: creating something that gets them, you know, back scene the
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: way that they were seeing before that, you know, last flop,
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: that says a lot that you was able to accomplish.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: That then to put pressure on you, I would think
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: so back then, nah, because I don't think about it
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: like you know, like the thing about it, this is
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: when I go in to studio people I don't be like,
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: I don't get caught up on what's happening in their life.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: And I think that that was what was going on
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: in her life outside of the studio.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I go in the studio and I'm like, I.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: Say this all the time when I when I work
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: with Aretha Franklin, she made me realize, like, listen, if
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: you're gonna be in here working and I'm gonna pay
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: you and we're gonna let you get this credit, you
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: better say what the fuck you gotta say If I
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: sound bad, if I don't even sound halfway good.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: She was like, tell me to do it again.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, I can't tell Aretha Franklin, nothing like
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: this will Rita Franklin. But the way she was talking
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: to me was like, I flew you here to Detroit
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: to cut my vocals, So what you're gonna do. You're
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: gonna sit in here and there and watch me? Or
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: if that's I'm going home, that's what she told me.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: She says, literally, I'm going home, that's what you're gonna do.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: And that's when I set that for me and I'm like,
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: you know what, I gotta do this. I just gotta
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: be brutally honest with artists. And when it came to
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: mancipation to me me we belong together. We made the
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: song like listen, Marian, if you don't hit the note
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: that this at the end of the record, the record
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: ain't gonna be what people want the record to be.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: They want you to that's that's what they want. We
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: gotta give them what they want. And it was like
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: nobody else wanted to say this. I had to say it,
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: and I have to be like, you know, if you
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: don't like me for saying what is real? Then while
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: we in the room together, what.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Was one of the artists that didn't like you being
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: brutal Lyannes That was like, nah, it's not for me, nobody.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think nobody.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think everybody want they don't want to
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: address it, but when it's right, they're like, oh, okay,
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: But a lot of them like you know, Bow, I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: didn't like. Oh, I think they like me.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Usher didn't seem like you wrestled with him every time.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: You're understand that's what balance.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying Usher didn't like you make me want
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to And you have to sit there and be like, man,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: why what do you what are you listening to that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: make you not like this song?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: So what did you say that Mariah Carrey when she
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: didn't do that the last note at the end, right,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the note that everybody tries to sing, did you call
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: her back like, hey, I need you to do the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Like what's crazy is we had six hours to do.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: We belong together.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: She came to Atlanta, We did everything in the song
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: except for that note. Right the song was finished, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: I kept saying, Mariah, when you do the you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: because she also was gonna sing her vocals when she
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: came back, and I just kept saying, when you sing
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: the vocals, make sure you end the song with this note.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: And it wasn't there, It wasn't in there, and it
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: was just like you had to say it or not.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: I had to feel like I felt like I had
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: to keep saying it before she left me because I
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: wasn't gonna be there with her. And sometimes you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: artists want to be cool and like Mariah is like
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: a singer that don't that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Can really sing, but she's a rapper.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: She want to be like she want to do rapper shit,
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: so she don't actually be wanting to like show you
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: how well she can sing no more. And I'm like, no,
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: show these niggas you could really fucking sing. They can't,
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: by the way, So you have to do that. You
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: have to tell her because she'll get she's a rapper.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: I told this, I told her this other.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: How many times? You know how many times did she
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: have to do that? Last note her?
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: I don't think she had to do that. I mean,
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: it don't take her long when she's when she's in
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: that mode.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they don't take one time.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: It don't take the Mariah's she's she's flawless when she
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: want to be. But like I said, she's so New York.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, like the first time I went to
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: work when Mariah I came here.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I ain't know what to expect.
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: She walked in the studio and she laid the CD
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: on the desk and it was the Wu Tang Cream
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: and she was like, I want you to sample this.
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: This is what I'm singing over. And I'm like, nah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: I'm not doing it. I'm not because I start thinking
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: about like you already successful and you think I'm getting
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: ready to be the nigga that's gonna put cream under
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: you and make you We're not doing that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that right. But I quickly learned who
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: she was, Like she just told us that story, like
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: she's that's who she is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: No, somebody told that story about Mariah wanted to sing
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: over cream?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Who was it?
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Mike literally just.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Told us that's that's that's the thing. Like right now,
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: she put out a song where she's over for president,
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: She's New York to the call.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: What was it about the emancipation of me me that
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: got her back to where she needed to be?
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Was it the freedom that maybe you provided?
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: Because I started brat telling this story about how Tommy
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Matola got guns pulled on you because you let Mariah
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: go to Bird.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't let them do nothing. They pulled off and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: went on their own.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll tell the story cause I don't know
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the story.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: Okay, So the first time I started working with Mariah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: I decided to do it. Always be my baby remix, right,
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: that was out in Upstate with her and Tommy. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: this was the first time me I started bringing my
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: people around Mariah and I brought Brat.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Her and Brat kicked it. They hit it off, and.
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: She convinced Brat or either Bratt convinced her let's take
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: a trip in the car, just me and you and
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: go to McDonald's or some mored shiite left the ground
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: without me knowing, and niggas showed up in the studio
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: like what's going on. I'm like, I seen motherfucker's running
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: around like and it always looking at me like JD,
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: this is your person. She done ran off with Mariah
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: and I'm like, what the fuck? Like that was a
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: crazy moment.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: This is my first time being there, this is my
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: first time at her house, and I bring some niggas over.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: This was just like a story. You bring some niggas
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: over to the house and this is what happened. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: I'm in the house like this, like, I'm just trying
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: to make a record, man, what the fuck is going on.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Where you're at? Yeah?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I called her.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: She's like, we just getting some frize and I'm like, what,
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: why why? And she was saying that MARIAJH. Just like
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: at that period of time, Mariah was, you know, this
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: was a different type of success life at this point. Yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: she wasn't the artist that could go outside and go
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: to McDonald's or she wasn't even doing that. Like, she
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: was sheltered in the house and she just wanted to
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: get out, and Brat was her her person that was
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: ready to go escape and do it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: So what did that level of freedom you provided her?
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm called the emancipatient.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, A MEI.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Nah, just I just think I think I make Mariah comfortable, right,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: I don't fake with her about the music that we
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: should make. And I think that's what makes her feel free,
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: you know, free because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: if you sing, make singing records man, like, and like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: I get it. You want to rap, And I'm a
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: rapper at heart, but I learned how to make music,
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: And I learned through the success that I've had that
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: these people want these records to sound like the records
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: that they know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: The audience don't change, right, So I just have to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: keep beating that in people's minds and letting them know, like, listen,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you might want to change your shit up, but the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: person that's listening, they want the new Mariah record to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: sound like the Mariah record that they heard before. And
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: that's always a hard fight with artists.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Did you ever take the Magic City?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, no, no, she won't won't. She probably
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: won't go to that. That ain't her That ain't her bag.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Now back to Usher, you said she didn't like make
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: me want to? Yeah, why not?
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Was the problem with that?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: And how'd you get him? How did you force him
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: to finally do it?
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean I have to force him, but he
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: also just let me know it wasn't like, that wasn't
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: what he felt.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: He should be coming with.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: At this point in time, Usher was still not sure
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: where his career was gonna go. So he's still cut
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: the song, luckily, but if we was in that space
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: right now, he's not gonna cut the song right now.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: He ain't gonna be like, I don't fuck with that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Song right now. He don't care if he don't like it.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: No, it's not even gonna get cut even now. Right now,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I would trust you to not he's gonna be like
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: that's right now. I'd be like, yo, Usher, please cut
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: this song. Us should turn his phone off.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Like, when you look at this new generation of Atlanta rappers,
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: do you feel they understand the history of the city
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: sound I.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Know all about what's hot? Right?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Well? I think they do, but I don't think they respected.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: From a level of why how high you should be
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: holding it right because a lot of people in Atlanta
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: still don't understand the how we even got to where
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: we are, right. I did an interview the other day
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: like about no First of the Month or something like
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: that with big facts right and Bank was saying, you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: JD niggas in Atlanta used to think you wanted to
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: be from New York.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because it wasn't that I wanted to
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: be from New York.
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: It's just this is where hip hop lives, and this
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: is where hip hop was at and it wasn't hip
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: hop nor no hip hop in Atlanta.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: It wasn't no place in Atlanta that even gave me
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: what I felt I was getting when I came to
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: the city and I wasn't getting anything.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I was treated like I wasn't even supposed to be here.
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: But still I was looking at people doing what I
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: wanted to do, right, So I'm like, Yo, we gotta
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: get We got to figure out how to get this going.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: So he was telling me that when I did Money
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: and a Thing, that it felt like I wanted to
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: be from New York as opposed I also, I wanted
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: to be the first nigga from Atlanta to make a
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: record with a nigga from Brooklyn that everybody kept claiming
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: was gonna be who he came who he became to be.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And I don't think people.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: Understand that move as much as they want to try
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: to make it seem like I want to be from
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: New York.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I was trying to be the.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: First person to push us forward and make sure that
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Atlanta exists the way it does in hip hop?
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Did you have to pay hold for that record? How
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: did that record come about? Money? In a day?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I had to?
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: I mean, it was my idea from the jump, and
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: he took it and put it on his album once
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: it started popping. So you know, we just were just
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: an even swap.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: So who when you when you talk, I loved I
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: loved these Atlanta stories, and I really feel like Atlanta
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: story still hasn't been told the way it should have.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: That's why I'm glad you did the Freak Nick Doc
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: and y'all got the Magic City Doc. When you think
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: of Atlanta, who should really get the credit for introducing
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: the world to Atlanta hip hop.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: Outa Outcast was calling so so death trying to get signed,
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: like I think, I think, you know, one of the
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: things that that we have to really start doing is
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: in dealing with me. And that's where it goes, like
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: people start moving the goal posters that Chris Cross was
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: the first rap crew from Atlanta to sell over two
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: three four million records.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Point blank, ain't no if and butts about it, right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: But when we start having a conversation about Chris Cross,
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: people start trying to make it seem like it's kitty rap, right.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: But then when I start saying something about me making
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: a record, the niggas starts saying, jad o g it's.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: A young man game. If it's a young man game.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Then give it to the young man who started the
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: ship for the city, right. But when you ask for
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: that credit, niggas try to make it seem like nah nah,
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: nah nah, it can't be these kids. But that don't
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: make sense, right it don't you one minute it's for
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: the kids, then the next minute the kids. You don't
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: want to get the kids to credit. And I think
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: that's the biggest mistake in Atlanta h hip hop is
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: that niggas don't give Criss Cross the credit for pushing
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: the door open. Like t I definitely says that he
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: started rapping because he saw Crisscross and he realized that
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: he didn't have to be old, he didn't have to
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: be twenty five years old to make a record. He
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: saw some little niggas from his hood making music and
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: he was like, I can do it right. Even Killer
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: Mike says the same thing. And I feel like, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: you got a couple of people that like these guys
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: that say it, But the rest of the city, if
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: you start having conversations about it, it's always who who
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: started at first. Criscross came out way before Outcasts, you
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, And they sold eight million records
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: the first album.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You can't just not talk about that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: What's the biggest differ between being a music mogul in
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: the nineties versus being in one now.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: They don't look the same.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they don't look the same. And I think that
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: the difference now is that it just ain't a bunch,
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: That's what it is. That's the ultimate difference. Because we
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: all learned from everybody. I learned most of everything that
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: I started doing from Russell, you know what I mean,
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: just seeing Russell Simmons do what he was doing. Andre
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: Horrel rest in peace, just everybody. You know, we had,
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: We had books of people that we could look at
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: and read their book and be like, Okay, if I'm
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: gonna do it, I want to do it like this.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: If I'm gonna have this company, I'm gonna have it
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: We don't have that no more. Right, we don't have
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: that no more. And I need it, you know what
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: I'm saying, Even me, I need it. So it's therefore
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: it's like I mean, at least I always used it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: I might be that person that people look at at
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: this point, but I'm saying, for the most part, we
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: don't have these guys that's out here that you could
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: actually look at and be like, Okay, I want to
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: have I want to even like Jay Prince Prince was
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: doing what he was doing in Houston. They not doing
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: that no more in Houston, right, So the niggas ain't Houston.
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: Only nobody like patting what they're doing off and nobody.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: They can talk about it, but you don't see nobody
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: coming out of Houston. It's like the new j Prince.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: That's true, you know.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: I mean it's interesting too it Atlanta because you always
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: repeat yourself when you think about all the different sounds
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: that have come out of Atlanta now, Like I love
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Metro booming out and the stuff you got on the
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: on the Magic City soundtracks sound like that too. Why
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: is that era it seemed like coming back?
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean mine is because it's connected to the dock, right.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: I think Metrom was onto something that was just like
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: they felt like, like I said, I don't know where
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: these girls, what mindset these female rappers was in when
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: they started, but they started taking these old records and
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: remaking new records on top of them. So like all
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: the jatoven beats, that's the Pluto song when Wami was
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: a zatoven beat right.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Like I said, the.
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: Girl bank Roll Now that I worked with, she got
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: a bunch of these records that they they they're taking
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: all of these older records and they putting new records
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: on this. So I think the feel of it when
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: they when you start seeing that, that feels like okay.
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: You know, everybody make music, always try to get into
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: the tempo and what's gonna go with the next song.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: As a producer, I mean, that's what I do. So
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: if you're listening to oh I think they like me
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: beat and somebody come on with a new song that
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: your your next move is to damn to make a
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: record that sound like leaning with it. Rock with is
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: just automatic because you can't just come with a song
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: that you can't just blow by and be like, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: ain't paying no attention to that tempo.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Let's do something else.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: No, that ain't that ain't never been hip hop. So
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: I just think that it's just a wave. Like I said,
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: these girls they started, and I just feel like you're
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: seeing people just follow the wave.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: It's gonna be address that take me through their record. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: with that with that influences.
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm saying that's why kto Yeah, So I
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: mean that's that's what I'm saying. It's like it's it's
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: just it's just they wave and people just they started it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Now, we talked about a lot of stuff that you've
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: done in your history. What's left that Jamaine wants to
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: do that he hasn't done yet?
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Like, because you.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Didn't did everything, you didn't did docu series, you didn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: did produce for every decade, what's left that you want
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: to do that's like this is the last thing I
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: want to do, or this is something I want to do.
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: Just continue, man, I think that, Like it's a lot
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: of stuff that I did that I didn't know what
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: I was doing, right, So it like go back and
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: do it in a way now that I know, Like
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: when I came up here and talked about the Rap Game,
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: I ain't know what that show was going to be.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I ain't know a lot of what was going to
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: come from that show. I ain't know. I don't know
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: what was going to happen.
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: Right now, I know now people know that show would
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: be accepted, you know, and received so much better now because.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: People when it wasn't accepted back then, like like I
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: think it would be now, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: It's proven though, Yeah, it's just really just like like
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: I said, a lot of the stuff is like I'm
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: the first to like step out here and see what's
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: going on, and you don't even know what's happening. And
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: once it worked, if you come back and do it again,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, Okay, now people fucking with this, and
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: they might do it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: But that's a lot of the stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: I just you know, I was just like, you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: like even like the Division I signed Division, and the
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: first album that I did with Division, I jumped out
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: here with a song called if I Get Caught, and
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: you know, their fan base was a little like that,
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: ain't we don't fuck with that?
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: I was just trying to make records and get them
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: guys popular because I felt like they too good to
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: be such a box group, and they.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Also wanted that song, so I'm not gonna just say
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: pushed it on them.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: But at the same time, I learned in that process
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: they got a fan base, right, and they make love music,
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: and you can't come out with a group that make
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: love music. Talking about if I Get Caught cheating that
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: just is not gonna it's gonna be a crash. So
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: this new project. We put out two new records last week,
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: and all I see is people online saying, this is
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: the division we wanted. This is what I'm talking about,
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: you know, Joe Budden's so you just learned.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I just learned. So I don't know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: I feel like, you know, I just have a look
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: at the things that I feel like I'm not I
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: didn't know what I was doing totally, and then just
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: come back and do it again and try to make
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: it right right the way that I feel like it
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: should have been the first time.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: What's the hardest personal sacrifice you made for your career life.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I don't really have no life. I just be making music,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: And I have people that tell me this all the time, like, Jad,
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: you know, you don't really you My baby mother's be
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: saying it's like, you know, you your life is the music.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: All you do is care about the music. All you
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: care about is putting out records. All you care about
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: is doing what you're doing every day. And that's the truth,
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: it is.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. I don't care about nothing else.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: You enjoy the money, you don't go on vacation.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that come along with it, but it ain't.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That's not a chase for me.
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: Like my chase is to be you know, like what
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: they said on the Billboard, I get number one, I.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Feel like I feel like I finally did something by
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: getting number one on that list.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: But that it's never enough because you one more, not
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: but now it's like but it's but it's also like fighting.
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: It's like boxing, you gotta you gotta can you can
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: you stay in that space?
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like watching Floyd and
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Tyson tug while they gonna fight.
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: It's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: the He wants to be the best.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like, I'm not saying
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I'm retired. I'm out here.
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: So I just know that, you know, Like I also
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: know that it's space in hip hop and R and
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: B that hasn't been touched. What I'm doing, going from
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: ninety two and being becoming the number one producer the
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: twenty first century in twenty twenty five ain't been seen
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: ever ever.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Right, So if you start doing shit that ain't never
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: been seen, you don't have no reason. I don't have
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: no reason to stop. I just gotta, you know, pray
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: to God that don't stop. You know what I mean.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: It's funny. I wonder if hip hop had limits you
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: may do for you.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is when people start
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: talking about, yo, who's the greatest producers of all time?
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: You'll start you a bunch of people who do a
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: lot of hip hop records. Right, But you gotta just
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: say Jamaine is a musician. If you if you said
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: Jamaine is is just a musical producer, And I think
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: the conversation is a little bit different.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: I mean it's hard, man, because I feel like I
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: switched from people. I switch up on people so much.
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: When I'm in R and B mode, I'm not talking
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: about no rap, right. I remember one time I came
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: up here and I was so R and B and
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: out and I want, I'm waving the flag for R
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: and B and I ain't talking about nothing rap. I
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: think that confuses the podcast and the guys that usually
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: talk to me about they like, wait a minute, I thought.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: This nigga was money anything.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: And you you know what I mean, Magic City, this
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: niggas over tell me, you want to make division.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Records, you know what I mean?
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: I think that that that throws the whole thing off
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: because I do switch. I mean, that's how That's the
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: only way I can do it. That's the only way
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: I can make it is to get away from, you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: from one thing for a minute and go into that
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: space and be one in that space.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Is there a media bias even towards the South, But
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: I think about that with the producers and the artists.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: There's some artists from the South who should be getting
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: mentioned this top lyricists all the time, and some producers
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: from the South should be getting mentioned this top.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: I just think that, and I want to I want
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: to get I want to shoot Bank a shout out
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: because I feel like his interview with.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Doug Fantastic pushes brilliant.
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: Finally somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip hop
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: media in the city of Atlanta. And I think it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: taken thirty years for somebody in the city of Atlanta
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: to be the person that you have to sit down.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: And talk to. If you that guy in hip hop
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and he just made himself that person.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: If you asked, I'm glad you said that. I said
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: it on the air.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: Regional identity matters in media and everything, and Atlanta has
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: been the hip hop capital for so long, but have
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: never had that media Prince Luther Gray screening on, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: they've never had that person You've got to go.
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: And I think that's the problem, is like every time
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: somebody from Atlanta that's popped, they always had to come
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: to New York. And no disrespect, but I've been saying
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: it should have been somebody that did what he did
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: with Future Ludacris Ti I got out of jail. We
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: know had so many artists that have so many stories
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: or they missed the opportunity like what just happened with
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: Doug because we don't have that person in the city,
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: and that just that goes to the culture like people
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: should Like I just saw the magazine out there with
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: you on the front covered Variety. I've never seen that
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: before right in Atlanta. I don't think young people read
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: and see things like that to push them to say,
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: you know what, I want to do?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: What Charlamagne doing? Man?
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: I want to do what Envy doing? He got a
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: call show? Like they don't see that enough to distract them.
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: All they see is JD throwing money and this nigga
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: throwing money them nigg rapping niggas be I'm gonna be
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: a rapper. Nah, you ain't gotta be no rapper.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Bank getting ready to hit
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the bank.
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying based on the way he
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: just did that one interview, as far as I'm concerned,
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: if he do what he gotta do and he keep
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: it at that level and the way he talked to him,
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: it makes you gonna have people that really want to
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: sit down and like, let you interview him the same
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: way you did.
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: And Big Facts has already been that platform to me, right,
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: And then now to see Bank doing the perspective with banks, yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I agree with that. But it took thirty years, That's
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: It took took thirty years for somebody to say this
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: is what we need. I'm gonna do it like this, right,
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: And I'm really happy to see that. I feel like
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: that's gonna turn that's gonna change the city because that's
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: gonna people. Somebody gonna see that and they gonna create
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: another one, right, and at that point that world will
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: open up.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Because when I came here, I think the beginning of.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: Me talking about Magic City, I was like, Yo, everybody
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: in New York got a fucking podcast. I mean everywhere
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: I went, everybody got podcasts cluing him. Got one across
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: the street in a little bar, everybody, Fat Joe I
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: was going to all of them. I mean, carmeloed them
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: out in Brooklyn. It's a podcast everywhere.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I was just like this, this bug ain't hit Atlanta yet.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: N they got them in Atlanta because you got big facts,
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: you got bank, got eighty five South shows in Atlanta.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: You got poll Mind podcast based out of Atlanta.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Four y'all have about twenty out there. I mean, you
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just and they moving. Y'all
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: got y'all got twenty out here. That's moving.
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, these guys that you like the eighty
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: five South show, I think that's probably the closest next.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: But after that, it ain't no real Like, ain't nobody you.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: Gotta talk to Poor mind is big.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: You ain't got to talk to them. That's all I'm saying.
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: I'm just talking about as far as like, if you
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: want of these people, I feel like we don't have
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: We ain't had nobody that you have to talk to,
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: like if they was like call me Carla wrect company,
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: like jo Jamaine, who you wanna have an in depth
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: conversation with your name? Your name is gonna come up?
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: And then who's the competitor to Charlemagne in Atlanta?
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: From Atlanta too? You know if.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: So, I just feel like I feel like Bank put
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: himself in the category to get there, you know, the
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Gucci man. It's all of these people that we want
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: to hear calling Bank right now.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: Gunna should be calling Bank like I need to come
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: sit down with you and just to reas reply.
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, but it ain't even never heard
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: this side. It's just like I said, he just made
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: it where like Oprah Winfrey, like you want to watch it,
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: you want to hear it. And he's not gonna hold
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: back on the questions. And he's creditable in that category
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: to where you can't run no bullshit all hill right?
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Is he gonna let you know you running some bullshit?
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: That's what I love he was. He wasn't afraid to
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: push back.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Nah. But I mean, but he don't have no that's him,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He wanted he the guy
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: that told me when I said, He's like Jad, we
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: thought you you want you want to be from New York.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: That's who told me that, right, And I'm like.
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: Nah, I wasn't trying to be from New York. I'm
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: trying to just push my music. And I just feel like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: like I said I part of on that interview, he did.
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: It fantast They have two more questions. What's the one
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: misconception about JD that you wish people would let go.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Of that I'm anything like any of these other people
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: that we talk about. I don't do none of the.
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: People talking about they got a case with Chris Krustin.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: I don't do none of that ship all that shit.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: People don't know.
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: I ain't got time for all that I make music. Right,
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: If you want to talk about music, then that's what
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: we talk about. If you want to talk about all
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: this other bullshit that's going on in the.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: World, I'm not your guy for free coss whatever you
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: want to call it, like not freaks.
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: I think like you know, like you know, they got
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: like transporting kids and all this type of shit going
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: on out here now. And just I feel like, because
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: we have seen so many people do and get in
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: trouble for things. You know, it's like, well, JD part
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: of that system.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Too, JD, I ain't never hear your name bullshit.
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: Nah, But I'm saying like that. I mean, you know,
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: I'm been around a long time, but I'm just from
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: saying I'm not. I don't I don't have no reason
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: to be doing that, Like I don't have no reason
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: to do it.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people don't understand, like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of my success I was with Janet, you
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I had, I was the first.
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: Nigga to be out here doing that besides Bobby and Whitney,
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Me and Janet was together
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: before Jay and Hole. I mean Jay and b actually
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: really announced it. So I was kind of like pushed
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: to the side, like a boyfriend type of dude that
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: was like just making music.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I just think I think that's
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the one.
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: I think people just they want me to be in
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: that shit, but I'm not going in that direction.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you wanted a few.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: It seems like yo, you jay Z, like y'all planes
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: are landing with the wheels out of a lot of people.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Planes did not land with the wheels.
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, well, I had this conversation with Chad because
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: Chad Ellie shout out to Chad Alley, that's my best
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: friend and we've been friends since I was twelve thirteen,
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: and we was talking about the list of Billboard list
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: and we started out in the garage. I used to
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: live with him in Brooklyn, Easton Park where and we
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: was we used to make you know, we go buy
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: records and we ain't know what he's doing, was just
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: trying to make beats and we ain't have no drum machines.
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: We just used to use our imagination. And I was
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: telling him about it the other night. Was I was like, yo,
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: we got a toast. I'm number one producer, right And
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: he was like, man, just sitting here think about it
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: made me want to cry because it's like what we
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: went through for me to even be in that space,
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: I don't think people even realize. So it's just like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: I'm all all I focus on is that man just
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: trying to be I'm a I'm a you know, I'm
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: trying to be the top of the top of the
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: game and I made it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to stay in that space.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: When your name is mentioned fifty years from now, what's
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: the one record or one artist you want to define
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: your legacy.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know who the artist is.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: Somebody great, I mean I think, you know, I think
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: like watching Mariah get Van Gold Award and her performing
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: in that piece to of records that I did, I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: think that means that means a lot, you know what
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, like almost like you're saying, it's like my
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: records a loud enough to make people damnar believe that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: I had something to do with her success. And that's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: a that's a that's a to me, that's a mean
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 7: accomplishment because I didn't have anything to do with her
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: becoming who she is.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: That's not true. I mean it's a second wave.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm saying I think I think I might
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: have made more black people like her, Yes, but she
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: still Rode Carrett.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it says something you me. I mean, I mean,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: best album I get it me me is brock Carey's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: best album.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's probably the definitive album of her whole career.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: That's her thriller.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Run well, yeah, I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: mean before I go, I got an album. I think
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: my album's coming out on Friday.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: They got yeah, I think because I've been I had
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of sample clearance issues.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: We're supposed to.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: Come out last Friday to go with the doc, but
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: I'm hoping it comes out this Friday because this is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: the last episode of Magic City this Friday, so we're
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: trying to make sure the album comes out and I'm
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: supposed to turn it in by four o'clock.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: So that's what my running is a right, that's.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: What my phone is doing, all right, well, JD Jermain
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Dupre may make sure you check out the Magic City
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Doc and of course the album.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: We appreciate you always for joining us.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Its j oh No every day up week ago. Click
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: your ass up the Breakfast Club.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: You'll finish for y'all. Done it.