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- 0:00Speaker 1: Provided by Thomas Alldrive and Frennus, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about private equity value creation in calendar weeks thirty-eight and thirty nine.
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- 0:28Speaker 1: So I want you to imagine a private equity firm dropping like half a billion dollars on AI implementation only To discover that their newest portfolio company is running its entire, you know multi-million dollar sales pipeline off A hidden spreadsheet called final version seven
- 0:45Speaker 0: Wow.
- 0:46Speaker 0: Yeah That Is a nightmare.
- 0:48Speaker 1: it really is.
- 0:49Speaker 1: The landscape of private equity is just fundamentally shifting beneath our feet right now and Our mission for this deep dive.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Is to unpack the absolute top trends in value creation being discussed across linkedin.
- 1:00Speaker 0: Yeah, we are looking at a pretty brutal new reality
- 1:04Speaker 1: exactly.
- 1:04Speaker 1: We're talking the new math of returns the harsh reality of hundred-day execution the shifting role of portfolio executives And well the unvarnished truth behind AI implementation.
- 1:15Speaker 0: I mean, if you look at the narrative connecting all these insights it really comes down to the death of financial engineering.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Okay unpack that a bit.
- 1:24Speaker 0: Well for a long time You could be just okay at operating your business But If you timed the market...you can rely on macro tailwinds right?
- 1:32Speaker 1: Just buy low and let the markets do their work.
- 1:34Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 1:35Speaker 0: You buy at ten X sell at fifteen X but That era is completely dead.
- 1:40Speaker 0: Operational alpha Is literally The only way forward.
- 1:43Speaker 0: now
- 1:44Speaker 1: Let's get into the actual math of that shift, because it is pretty staggering.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Anton Mungfak highlighted some macro data on this?
- 1:50Speaker 0: Oh!
- 1:51Speaker 0: The multiple expansion numbers.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Yeah So in twenty-twenty five, Multiple Expansion only accounted for eight percent of buyout returns
- 1:59Speaker 0: Just Eight Percent?
- 2:02Speaker 1: And before Fed raised rates It was sitting at forty per cent.
- 2:05Speaker 1: The market just refusing to do heavy lifting for sponsors
- 2:09Speaker 0: Right.
- 2:09Speaker 0: so when you strip away that cheap debt Your underwriting model has completely changed.
- 2:14Speaker 1: You can't just engineer your way out of a bad quarter.
- 2:16Speaker 0: Exactly, and Matt Hines and Sean Stevens brought up this concept regarding a recent Bain report.
- 2:23Speaker 0: their shorthand for This is so good.
- 2:25Speaker 0: they say twelve Is the new five
- 2:27Speaker 1: wait?
- 2:28Speaker 1: Twelve is The New Five meaning you need twelve percent growth to get what five percent used To Get you
- 2:34Speaker 0: Precisely deals that Used to Need Just A five Percent annual EBITDA Growth to hit a two point five X return.
- 2:41Speaker 0: Well, now they need ten to twelve percent growth.
- 2:44Speaker 1: That is a massive leap!
- 2:46Speaker 1: I mean hitting five percent is basically just keeping up with inflation and maybe pulling a few pricing levers?
- 2:53Speaker 0: Yeah but hitting twelve percent sustained.
- 2:56Speaker 0: that requires you to fundamentally reinvent the business especially with debt costing so much more.
- 3:02Speaker 1: The math is incredibly steep.
- 3:04Speaker 0: It really is And Joel Weber shared some data showing revenue growth accounts for fifty seven percent of value creation.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Fifty-seven percent.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Yeah,
- 3:12Speaker 0: that's nearly double what it was in two thousand nineteen.
- 3:15Speaker 0: Cost cutting has a floor.
- 3:17Speaker 0: You know the top line revenue is where three quarters of your return has to come from.
- 3:21Speaker 1: But okay Let me push back on that.
- 3:24Speaker 1: math sounds great On a spreadsheet sure but can operating teams actually deliver?
- 3:28Speaker 1: That kind of margin expansion In reality?
- 3:31Speaker 0: well Jordan hidden Actually gave us a huge reality check on this exact point.
- 3:36Speaker 1: What did they find
- 3:37Speaker 0: so?
- 3:37Speaker 0: Operational margin improvement is now driving over half of evident growth, but a staggering sixty-five percent have responded.
- 3:44Speaker 0: say they realize less than half the value identified in their value creation plans.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Less than half?
- 3:50Speaker 1: So...the opportunity's there!
- 3:52Speaker 1: But the execution capacity just failing?
- 3:55Speaker 0: Completely failing.
- 3:56Speaker 0: Operations are now THE single point at failure which means that pressure on first one hundred days is just immense.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Right And you see these highly polished hundred-day plans colliding with the messy reality of the organization.
- 4:09Speaker 0: Scott Peters noted something really interesting here, he said value creation rarely fails because the strategy was wrong.
- 4:16Speaker 1: It's the execution speed right?
- 4:18Speaker 0: Exactly it fails because execution wasn't fast enough.
- 4:22Speaker 0: He argues You need ruthlessly strict baselines a few KPIs and rapid leadership evaluation.
- 4:28Speaker 1: But Dr Sasha Hagenmuller brought in up pretty sobering reality check about those plans.
- 4:33Speaker 0: Oh, this statistic about the professionals?
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Forty-two percent of professionals admit their own one hundred day plans are unrealistic.
- 4:40Speaker 0: Wow!
- 4:41Speaker 0: Almost half.
- 4:42Speaker 1: And poor data quality is second most common stumbling block in an exit.
- 4:46Speaker 1: It sounds like PE firms were designing a Formula One race strategy without checking if car actually has engine.
- 4:51Speaker 1: You know
- 4:52Speaker 0: That's great way to put it.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Like.
- 4:53Speaker 1: why these plan so totally disconnected from reality?
- 4:56Speaker 0: Well Dr Nor Salman identifies root cause perfectly.
- 4:59Speaker 0: She calls them unmodeled organizational assumptions.
- 5:03Speaker 1: unmodeled organizational assumptions.
- 5:06Speaker 1: What does that actually look like in practice?
- 5:07Speaker 0: Okay, think about it like this.
- 5:09Speaker 0: The financial model works perfectly.
- 5:12Speaker 0: It falsely assumes the organization has clear decision authority Accountability and information flow.
- 5:18Speaker 1: So it assumes the VP of sales Has the power to just enforce an eight percent price hike.
- 5:22Speaker 1: right
- 5:23Speaker 0: but In reality maybe the founder is been manually approving every client discount for twenty years.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Ah, so the model assumes that structure is there but it isn't.
- 5:32Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 5:34Speaker 0: Francisco Lara expanded on this too – he argues operational excellence isn't just a one-hundred day checklist.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Right you have to standardize discipline.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Yes
- 5:43Speaker 0: You need operators before the ink dries and build data infrastructure first.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Do your Michelle provided highly specific examples with IT integration?
- 5:54Speaker 0: The shadow spreadsheets?
- 5:55Speaker 1: Yes.
- 5:56Speaker 1: The integration plan might focus on a shiny new ERP, but the business is actually being run by hidden spreadsheet titled final v seven.
- 6:05Speaker 1: use this one that calculates commissions.
- 6:07Speaker 0: You literally can't execute a plan without understanding those shadow processes right
- 6:13Speaker 1: and really quickly.
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- 6:19Speaker 1: It's the best way to keep up with these trends.
- 6:20Speaker 0: definitely
- 6:22Speaker 1: You know, going back to executing those complex data heavy one hundred day plans.
- 6:27Speaker 1: you really need the right leaders for that?
- 6:29Speaker 0: You do but PE firms are frequently hiring for the wrong things especially in The Finance Function.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Tim Garels talked about this.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Right Yeah!
- 6:38Speaker 1: The whole unicorn hunting concept.
- 6:40Speaker 0: Yes Sponsors demand these impossible candidates.
- 6:43Speaker 0: They want someone who can turn around drive double digit growth Do M&A Rebuild a team Manage a difficult founder
- 6:50Speaker 1: And I bet they want them traveling a hundred percent of the time, too.
- 6:53Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 6:54Speaker 0: It's just an impossible standard.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Mark Janssen zeroed in on how this impacts the CFO role.
- 6:59Speaker 1: He says PE keeps hiring for scale instead of velocity.
- 7:03Speaker 0: Oh dropping your Fortune-Five Hundred CFO into small portco?
- 7:06Speaker 0: Yes
- 7:07Speaker 1: They drop an executive who is used to twenty person FPNA team Into a sixty million dollar company where the ERP is ancient and cash has managed week to week.
- 7:17Speaker 0: Zachary Wingett actually got to the structural root of this failure.
- 7:21Speaker 1: What did he find?
- 7:22Speaker 0: Well, seventy-four percent of sponsors say their CFO is underperforming but it's an architecture problem not a talent problem.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Wait how?
- 7:29Speaker 1: so
- 7:29Speaker 0: if the operating team doesn't close margins weekly The monthly clothes ends up consuming eighty percent of the CFOs bandwidth.
- 7:37Speaker 1: So they spend all their time just trying to figure out what happened last month.
- 7:40Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 7:41Speaker 0: They can be strategic If data is a
- 7:43Speaker 1: mess But with hold periods stretching this seven years now, we saw that data from Jonathan O'Leary earlier.
- 7:49Speaker 1: How do you keep these burnt out executives motivated if the exit is nowhere in sight?
- 7:54Speaker 0: That's a big question and Robert Friedman highlighted an emerging trend here.
- 7:59Speaker 0: We are seeing new compensation structures moving away from traditional equity waterfalls.
- 8:05Speaker 1: So they aren't just waiting for an IPO.
- 8:08Speaker 0: Instead, some executives are getting an annual payment equal to a strict percentage say five percent of pure EBITDA.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Wait really?
- 8:16Speaker 1: Not EBITTA growth.
- 8:17Speaker 1: just pure EBITA
- 8:19Speaker 0: Just pure EBita.
- 8:21Speaker 0: it creates this immediate alignment without waiting for a liquidity event.
- 8:24Speaker 1: That's incredible!
- 8:26Speaker 1: It totally changes the incentive structure which aligns perfectly with Shannon Talbot rule-of-thumb
- 8:31Speaker 0: To upgrade selectively.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Yeah, always assess the talent and upgrades selectively before you just redraw the boxes on the org chart.
- 8:39Speaker 0: You have to get people an incentives right first.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Absolutely So if you have the right people.
- 8:44Speaker 1: The ultimate lever everyone is trying pull to get that ten-to twelve percent growth Is AI?
- 8:49Speaker 0: Oh definitely But there was a massive gap between conference buzz And actual deployment.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Guillermo Flore shared a staggering number about this.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Blackstone spend with the AI company Anthropic jumped twenty one X in a single year.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yeah, from two point five million to five hundred and twenty-five million dollars.
- 9:09Speaker 1: This proves we are way past the pilot phase.
- 9:11Speaker 1: an into full scale enterprise deployment.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Wow.
- 9:13Speaker 0: But Steve Budd actually offered a reality check on that adoption.
- 9:17Speaker 0: Oh he noted that while seventy one percent of firms have adopted AI Only eighteen percent claim it is provided a durable advantage.
- 9:25Speaker 1: only eighteen percent.
- 9:27Speaker 0: yeah.
- 9:27Speaker 0: Why's it so low?
- 9:28Speaker 1: It's the ceiling holding everyone back, a total lack of structured data foundations.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Right?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Christopher Donito explained this failure rate perfectly.
- 9:36Speaker 1: he said.
- 9:37Speaker 1: ninety-five percent of AI pilots produce no measurable P&L impact.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Ninety
- 9:41Speaker 0: five percent is brutal!
- 9:43Speaker 1: Yeah... He says companies are just trying to dress up fundamental data quality problems in fancy A.I agent costumes.
- 9:49Speaker 0: That's a great visual and Philip Kraft highlighted The Human Risk Of Getting This Wrong.
- 9:55Speaker 1: What happened?
- 9:56Speaker 0: Well, he used Meta as an example.
- 9:58Speaker 0: They made the mistake of cutting headcount before redesigning the actual workflows...
- 10:03Speaker 1: ...they just assumed that AI would cover the gap?
- 10:05Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 10:06Speaker 0: The required sequence must be design first automate second measure third and only then let the organization in head count follow.
- 10:16Speaker 1: So if scattered pilots fail and premature cuts fail how does a PE firm actually scale AI across a massive portfolio?
- 10:24Speaker 0: Lucharan Chakrabati provided a model for this.
- 10:27Speaker 0: The winners are stopping the scattered experiments and building an AI factory!
- 10:32Speaker 1: An AI Factory?
- 10:34Speaker 1: Yeah,
- 10:34Speaker 0: it's a unified two-tier machine operating across the entire portfolio rather than each company trying to build it from scratch.
- 10:41Speaker 1: That makes total sense.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Centralize the heavy lifting
- 10:44Speaker 0: Exactly
- 10:46Speaker 1: Well looking at all of these I want leave you with final lingering question.
- 10:51Speaker 1: With PE hold periods lengthening, returns relying entirely on operating data and massive cross-portfolio AI deployments becoming the norm.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Are we witnessing end of traditional financial sponsor?
- 11:03Speaker 0: It's a fascinating question.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Will private equity firms in future look less like investment banks or more like giant highly integrated tech and software holding companies.
- 11:14Speaker 0: I guess will have to wait & see
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