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- 1:02In this episode of the Woman at the Well Ministries podcast,
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- 1:10In today's conversation, we continue a series on the book of Proverbs.
- 1:14In today's podcast, we're discussing the lessons learned in Proverbs chapter 13. Hello, everyone.
- 1:20My name is Erica Close, and I am here with Kimberly Miller.
- 1:24Hello, and thank you for joining us in this broadcast of Women at the Well Ministries
- 1:28as we take a close look at Proverbs chapter 13.
- 1:31I'm excited to dig into Proverbs chapter 13, and today I'm going to ask Kim
- 1:36if she would like to start off and read for us the first half of Proverbs 13.
- 1:41A wise son heareth his father's instruction, but a scorner heareth not rebuke.
- 1:46A man shall eat good by the fruit of his mouth, but the soul of the transgressors shall eat violence.
- 1:52He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life, but he that openeth wide his lips
- 1:57shall have destruction.
- 1:58The soul of the slugger desireth and hath nothing.
- 2:01But the soul of the diligent shall be made fat. A righteous man hateth lying,
- 2:06but a wicked man is loathsome and cometh to shame.
- 2:10Righteousness keepeth him that is upright in the way, but wickedness overthroweth the sinner.
- 2:15There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing. There is that maketh himself
- 2:20poor, yet hath great riches.
- 2:22The ransom of a man's life are his riches, but the poor heareth not rebuke.
- 2:27The light of the righteous rejoiceth, but the lamp of the wicked shall be put out.
- 2:31Only by pride cometh contention, but with the well-advised is wisdom.
- 2:36Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished, but he that gathereth by labor shall increase.
- 2:41Hope deferred maketh the heart sick, but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.
- 2:48Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed, but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.
- 2:54The law of the wise is a fountain of life to depart from the snares of death.
- 2:59Good understanding giveth favor, but the way of transgressors is hard.
- 3:04Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge, but a fool layeth open his folly.
- 3:09A wicked messenger falleth into mischief, but a faithful ambassador is health.
- 3:14Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuses instruction, but he that regardeth
- 3:20reproof shall be honored.
- 3:22The desire accomplished is sweet to the soul, but it is abomination to fools to depart from evil.
- 3:28He that walketh with wise men shall be wise, but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.
- 3:34Evil pursueth sinners, but to the righteous good shall be repaid.
- 3:38A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children,
- 3:41and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.
- 3:45Much food is in the tillage of the poor, but that is destroyed for want of judgment.
- 3:51He that spareth his rod hateth his son, but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
- 3:58The righteous eateth to the satisfying of his soul, but the belly of the wicked shall want.
- 4:04There are so many things in Proverbs chapter 13.
- 4:07One of my absolute favorite verses that just always has stuck with me in God's
- 4:13word is coming out of Proverbs chapter 13, and that's verse 20.
- 4:18That he that walketh with wise men shall be wise, but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.
- 4:22That is one of my absolute favorite verses and just speaks to the power of who
- 4:27you surround yourself with.
- 4:28And I think that is a verse that we can all take to heart and we should all listen to.
- 4:34It matters who's speaking to you. Absolutely. It matters whose words you're
- 4:39listening to and heeding.
- 4:40And so many of the verses in all of the Proverbs, and again,
- 4:44in this proverb, Proverbs, are about wisdom and where wisdom comes from.
- 4:48And this very first verse says, a wise son heareth his father's instruction,
- 4:54but a scorner heareth not rebuke.
- 4:57Wisdom is hearing, and wisdom is listening, right?
- 5:00When we talk about the book of Proverbs, it's all about wisdom,
- 5:03and it's all about, to me, all the places where we can obtain wisdom,
- 5:08all the ways that we learn to follow the Lord so that we have wisdom.
- 5:13And this chapter starts out by saying we hear things, right?
- 5:17We hear wisdom from our parents and we take it.
- 5:22And that is one of the ways that we gain wisdom.
- 5:27I love how he talks about as you move forward into that.
- 5:32And he speaks in verse 3, it is, where he says, He who guards his mouth keeps
- 5:38his life, but he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.
- 5:42That's what he's telling us when he says, He that keepeth his mouth keepeth
- 5:46his life, but he who openeth wide his lips shall have a destruction.
- 5:50When we just start speaking and we don't really take thought about what we speak,
- 5:56we bring destruction to ourselves.
- 5:58Absolutely. Wisdom is hearing and listening.
- 6:01Listening wisdom is often keeping your mouth shut right when
- 6:05there's just when it's not the right time for you to
- 6:07speak or when there is just when what you need to say or want to say is it's
- 6:12just not the appropriate time he that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life i think
- 6:17that verses two and verse four in a lot of ways go together right it says that
- 6:23a good man shall eat good by the fruit of his mouth.
- 6:26So many things in our life, so many of the ways that we are provided for have
- 6:32to do with how we live our life.
- 6:34The Lord is more able to bless those who are following after him.
- 6:39And even if we are not blessed with much financially, we still need to live
- 6:45a life that the Lord can bless and that the Lord can provide for and provide into.
- 6:50We are all asked to live a life that the Lord has an easy job in blessing.
- 6:58And so often that is the life of obedience.
- 7:01And in verse 4, verse 4 is about how we live our lives.
- 7:05And in the previous two Proverbs, we've often seen these two words,
- 7:10the sluggard and the diligent.
- 7:12Those words just keep coming up.
- 7:15So clearly they're words that we need to know and words that we need to focus
- 7:19on. But this chapter says, The soul of the sluggard desireth and hath nothing,
- 7:24but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.
- 7:27God wants us to be diligent in doing his work. And whatever it is he asks us to do, that's his work.
- 7:34And when he says to be made fat, that means he gives us increase.
- 7:38And we want his increase, because his increase more than the world's increase
- 7:43will draw us ever closer to him. I love in verse 5 that he talks about a righteous man hates lying.
- 7:49That's somebody who's consistently righteous.
- 7:52They don't like lying or deceit because there's no truth in it.
- 7:56And Jesus is truth and a righteous man is all about Jesus. So he's all about truth.
- 8:02But a wicked man comes surely to shame.
- 8:06Verse 6 follows that, and it talks about how the righteousness of a man is what
- 8:11keeps him upright in the way.
- 8:13Keeping him upright in the way, to me, means staying on the path,
- 8:17staying on the straight and narrow path that the Lord asked for us.
- 8:21But it also says the wickedness overthroweth the sinner.
- 8:25Verses 4 and 5 are all about how sin is trying to take you over.
- 8:29Right sin is always going to try to overtake the
- 8:33believer and make them think that not following.
- 8:36The lord is the best thing when we know that is
- 8:39not not the right thing when we move on into verse seven we get into a little
- 8:46bit more about about our money there is that maketh himself rich yet he hath
- 8:50nothing there is that maketh himself poor yet hath great riches in verse eight
- 8:56the ransom Ransom of a man's life are his riches,
- 8:58but the poor heareth not rebuke. Right?
- 9:02Riches, which can be considered a blessing at times, can also be a snare.
- 9:07And the reality is these verses say that the riches can be, are of this world,
- 9:13right? They could be, they can be called for.
- 9:15They could be called for to pay off a debt.
- 9:18They can be called for because there's a disaster and suddenly you need, you need to have money.
- 9:22So you can have all this money saved up, but something happens and then you
- 9:25need to spend it, right? they are fleeting.
- 9:28They're not going to last forever, and we certainly know that they can't be taken with us.
- 9:33And when we make ourselves rich, we really have nothing.
- 9:37When our richness comes from living a life that God has ordained for us,
- 9:42that He wants us to live, that's where true riches actually come from.
- 9:46So I think in verse 7, we are directed to reflect on the fact that there are
- 9:52a lot of people who think they're rich, but they don't have anything permanent. it.
- 9:55They certainly don't have anything they can count on past this world.
- 9:59But those who may not be rich in this world's goods, which is what you were
- 10:03saying, have great and indestructible riches because they're laying their riches
- 10:09up in a home not made with hands eternal into the heavens.
- 10:12And they are walking in the way of the Lord and they are in a situation where they can be blessed.
- 10:18Let's hop down to verse 11 and we'll come back to 9.
- 10:2111 says, wealth gotten by vanity shall be be diminished, but he that gathereth
- 10:26by labor shall increase, right?
- 10:29God values our hard work.
- 10:32He values when we are diligent. He values when we're not sluggish.
- 10:37He values when we are working hard at whatever it is that he has asked us to do.
- 10:42And when we get wealth by vanity or unjustly. Or I think sometimes when he's
- 10:48talking about not earned.
- 10:49Right. But maybe one in haste or unjustly by doing things for vain or some sort
- 10:56of detrimental riches, like cheating scales and cheating other people,
- 11:00that's going to just dwindle away.
- 11:02That's going to catch up with you. But when you gather little by little,
- 11:06you increase in his riches.
- 11:08Absolutely. Absolutely. Let's pop back up to verse 9, where the light of the righteous rejoiceth.
- 11:15We have a light in us.
- 11:18We have the light of Jesus in us. And that light rejoices. It rejoices in who who God is.
- 11:26But the wicked also have a lamp.
- 11:29It says, but the lamp of the wicked shall be put out, right?
- 11:32We don't want to have a light or a lamp that can be put out.
- 11:37We need to ensure that our lights and our lamps are always ready to go and are shining brightly.
- 11:45Verse 10 lets us know that only by pride cometh contention, but with the well-advised is wisdom.
- 11:52You know, we talked earlier in this chapter about how wisdom comes by hearing
- 11:56and listening, and wisdom comes by keeping your mouth shut.
- 12:00But in verse 10, we see too that wisdom comes by the well-advised.
- 12:06I think that goes closely with
- 12:08our verse 20 verse, right? He who walketh with wise men shall be wise.
- 12:12If we choose wise people to speak into our lives, we will gain wisdom.
- 12:18But if our world and what we choose to do in our world is controlled by our
- 12:25pride, we're not going to end up with wisdom.
- 12:27It says here that we will have contention. We'll live a contentious life.
- 12:31That's not the life that Christ wants for us. He wants us to live a happy life
- 12:37that's lived and filled with the wisdom that he has for us.
- 12:41Verse 12, I think, gives us just a nugget. It says.
- 12:51So when we are fulfilled with our desires, it causes us to grow,
- 12:57and we are bigger than who we really are.
- 13:01And it's important that we are patient and wait upon the Lord,
- 13:07as we are told to do in Isaiah.
- 13:09And he will lift up us on wings of eagles.
- 13:15But we have to trust him completely to wait upon him.
- 13:20You know, I think it's important to note that waiting itself is work.
- 13:26Yeah. I feel like I've done a lot of waiting in my life recently. And waiting is work.
- 13:32But waiting when there is hope and waiting when you have peace is a very different kind of waiting.
- 13:40That's that be still and know that I am God. Exactly. In Psalms 46.10.
- 13:45It can still be work to wait for an answer to prayer or wait for an answer for
- 13:52something that's coming in this world.
- 13:55Waiting is work, but we can wait in the presence of Jesus and it's much less
- 14:03work because he's the one that's doing the work and holding us.
- 14:06The next two verses, 13 and 14, really speak to just how powerful God's word is.
- 14:13Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed, but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.
- 14:19When we have a godly fear of who the Lord is, a reverence for him and a reverence
- 14:26for his word will be rewarded.
- 14:29In verse 14, it says, The law of the wise is a fountain of life to depart from the snares of death.
- 14:35The word of God has the power to give us life.
- 14:39The word of God has the power to take us from the snares of death.
- 14:44And we can't deny that. Those, if that's not something that you recognize.
- 14:50I recommend you spend more time in the Word, because when you spend more time
- 14:54in the Word and you understand the power of the Word and you experience the
- 14:58power of God's Word in your life,
- 15:00then you understand how literally it is a fountain of life and it pulls us from the snares of death.
- 15:07For the Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword,
- 15:12piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joints unmarrowed,
- 15:18and is a discerner of the thoughts and the intents of the heart.
- 15:23That's found in Hebrews 4.12.
- 15:25When you think about this description of what the Word of God is in relation
- 15:31to what he's saying in Proverbs chapter 13,
- 15:35we really get a clear picture of the importance of the Word of God and how not knowing it,
- 15:42we're told in 2 Timothy 2.15 that we're to study the Word of God so that we're
- 15:47able to use it to answer questions appropriately and to know how to live.
- 15:52But you can see that not knowing it would bring destruction.
- 15:55But those who do reverently fear and respect what the Word of God is saying
- 16:02to the point that they adhere to the commandments of God, they are rewarded
- 16:07with the abundant life he promises in John 10.10.
- 16:10And that's an abundant life that any child of God would want and having experienced
- 16:16would never want to lose.
- 16:18And you know, Proverbs is always about this balance. What's on one side is good
- 16:22and what's on the other side is bad.
- 16:25And so if you listen to wise people, again, that circle of people you allow
- 16:29to speak into your life, then you're going to have a fountain of life and you're
- 16:33going to avoid the snares of death.
- 16:36Because when you have a good understanding of the scripture,
- 16:39of who Jesus is, of what the Lord is asking of you, then you have favor from the Lord.
- 16:46Yeah, that verse 15 that talks about the good understanding ends and says,
- 16:50but the way of transgressors is hard.
- 16:53Amen. I mean, wisdom and living in wisdom, living a godly life literally makes
- 16:59life easier. And this set of verses here, like 15, 16, 17, and 18 are all about that.
- 17:07They're all about how wisdom makes life easier.
- 17:10It says that a prudent man dealeth with knowledge, right?
- 17:13When we are prudent in what we do, when we think about what we're doing,
- 17:17when we pray about the decisions that we make. And truth is knowledge.
- 17:21Absolutely. Knowledge is truth. And truth is Jesus.
- 17:25So when you know Jesus, you know the truth. And when you know the truth,
- 17:29you're going to do the right thing.
- 17:31Absolutely. Verse 17, a wicked messenger falls into mischief,
- 17:34but a faithful ambassador is health.
- 17:37Having a good understanding means that you're a faithful, truthful ambassador for Christ.
- 17:43When you are a faithful ambassador, it says you'll have health.
- 17:46Health is easier, right? Life can be hard, but having a healthy life,
- 17:51we know is easier. And then verse 18.
- 17:57Wisdom is taking instruction, right?
- 18:01It's taking the reproof. It's reflecting on our lives and looking at our lives
- 18:06and what we've done. It says.
- 18:10Wisdom makes life easier. Amen.
- 18:14And those who regard reproof positively, like have a positive regard for reproof,
- 18:19for taking instruction from the Lord or from the godly people that you have
- 18:22in your life, your life will have honor. It will be honored.
- 18:26Verse 19 is a really, really, really sweet verse to me.
- 18:32And it says, "...the desire accomplished is sweet to the soul.
- 18:37But it is an abomination to fools to depart from evil.
- 18:40I think that really harkens back to verse 12, which is the one that says,
- 18:43hope deferred maketh the heart sick, but when the desire is come,
- 18:47it is a tree of life, right?
- 18:50When the desire is accomplished, it's sweet to the soul.
- 18:57When we have the eyes to see an answer to prayer, when we have the eyes to see
- 19:03what the Lord has done, it is sweetness.
- 19:07To our soul. And when we have an understanding of the word that says that he
- 19:12who has begun a good work in you will complete it, that means we can have the hope it takes to wait.
- 19:19And then when we see this all come to fruition, it's just a sweet, sweet satisfaction.
- 19:25But those who are self-confident and are not relying on the Lord and are not
- 19:30trusting in him, they put their hearts to evil desires, not to the truth or
- 19:36not to the knowledge, and they reap upon themselves destruction.
- 19:40Our next verse is the verse we started talking about with, He that walketh with
- 19:43wise men shall be wise, but a companion of fools.
- 19:47Shall be destroyed. I don't think this verse can be mentioned,
- 19:49ever mentioned too many times, but if we want to be wise, we need to surround
- 19:55ourselves with wise people. That's it.
- 19:58We need to know the Lord, we need to know his word, and we need to surround
- 20:01ourselves with wise people.
- 20:03And you see that in verse 21, because he says, evil pursues sinners,
- 20:07but the consistently upright,
- 20:09the ones who are doing the right thing all the time, and who are in right standing with God,
- 20:13they are rewarded with good yes there
- 20:17is a good and there is a bad those who
- 20:20walk in the knowledge and the truth of the lord receive good those
- 20:23who walk in the knowledge of sin and darkness and who pursue that are also going
- 20:29to be pursued by sin that's that's an interesting concept in this verse is that
- 20:35we see that in verse 21 he that walketh with wise men shall be why i mean sorry
- 20:40sorry, evil pursues sinners.
- 20:42So it's not just that you pursue, when you start going down that slippery slope,
- 20:46you're going to get overcome with evil because evil will check you out.
- 20:50It will find you because you've opened the door for it to grow in your heart and mind.
- 20:55I think it's really important. You know, we talk a lot about sin and specific
- 21:00sins passing from generation to generation, right?
- 21:05We learn things from our parents, and good can pass from generation to generation as well.
- 21:13Sin doesn't have to pass from generation to generation because the power of
- 21:16God is stronger than any generational experience.
- 21:20But your verse that you just talked about in verse 21 says that,
- 21:24you know, to the righteous, good shall be repaid.
- 21:27That very next verse is a good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's
- 21:32children, and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.
- 21:36The wealth of the sinner can be lost and given to the just, but a righteous
- 21:41good man will leave an inheritance to his children's children.
- 21:45And I don't think that the righteous good man, it doesn't say that he's a rich man.
- 21:50It says that he's righteous. So that inheritance that is passed down can be
- 21:56an inheritance of godly, holy understanding.
- 22:00And it can be passed down to your children's children. We have a responsibility
- 22:04as adults, whether we're parents or not.
- 22:09To share the Lord and to speak the Lord and to get the Lord into the lives of all those around us.
- 22:15And if you happen to be a parent, it's your responsibility to ensure that your
- 22:19children know the Word of God and that your children are introduced to Him.
- 22:23But when that work happens, it can go from generation to generation.
- 22:29And He tells us that we are to do this kind of when they're young.
- 22:33Start out from the very beginning. If you really love someone,
- 22:38especially your children, you're going to discipline them.
- 22:41If you don't, in this case, he's using as a rod, if you spare the rod of discipline,
- 22:47you really don't love your child because you're not setting them up for the best life possible.
- 22:52You're not setting them on the course of knowledge and truth,
- 22:56and you're not giving them a foundation in Jesus.
- 23:00But if you really love them, you're going to discipline them,
- 23:02and you're going to gently push them in the road of holiness and godliness and
- 23:10to pursue wisdom and goodness and peace and to know the truth, which is to know Jesus,
- 23:17which imparts the knowledge and the relationship that one needs in order to navigate this world.
- 23:25The last verse in Proverbs chapter 13 says that the righteous eateth to the
- 23:30satisfying of his soul, but the belly of the wicked shall want.
- 23:34I think that there is nothing greater that we could leave our children or whoever
- 23:40the Lord has put into our care than with a satisfied soul.
- 23:45A satisfied soul is one that knows Jesus. A satisfied soul is one that.
- 23:50Knows how to have a relationship with Jesus, and has an eternity prepared for them in heaven.
- 23:56We want to leave our children and those the Lord has put in our life with a satisfied soul.
- 24:04We would never say that we would want our children to be in want or to have a need.
- 24:09But I think this verse speaks to every individual.
- 24:12We're told in John chapter 4 that if you drink this water, you'll never thirst again.
- 24:17There is a undeniable space in every individual's heart intended for God to
- 24:25feel that nothing else will.
- 24:27And you can try everything you want, but until you have made your relationship
- 24:31with Jesus secure, until you've purposed in your heart to follow him,
- 24:36you're going to feel just a little off.
- 24:39In some cases, a lot off if you pursue evil instead of good.
- 24:44But the righteous person, the one who's uncompromisingly righteous,
- 24:48who's consciously choosing to do the right thing, they are satisfied.
- 24:54But the wicked always want more. The devil will never allow a person to be satisfied,
- 25:02no matter how much wickedness and evilness they possess, because he's always
- 25:08seeking to destroy you, to drop you just a little lower.
- 25:11But Jesus said, greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.
- 25:16And he's always looking to build you up, to bless you, to help you and to assist you.
- 25:22Proverbs 13 is rich. It absolutely is.
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