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10-28 H2 12th Man News w/ Gregg Bell, Fact or Fiction & Reckless @ Breakfast · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, great morning to you. It is Chuck in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: is Chuck Powell. Coming up a little later, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: are bringing on Greg Bell and Hugh Millen here today.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: We've got to react to the Quentin Nelson trade, so
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  Speaker 1: Greg will be joining us in three minutes from now.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh's actually going to join us, a special Wednesday appearance.
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  Speaker 1: Normally doesn't appear on Wednesday, but he'll join us at
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  Speaker 1: 8 o'clock. We'll get his thoughts, because I know that
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  Speaker 1: he's done the deep dive down there in the Millen Cave.
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  Speaker 1: to come up with the top analysis here in town.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll do that at 8 o'clock. A lot more
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  Speaker 1: coming your way. There's always a busy Wednesday show here
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  Speaker 1: on Chuck in the Mornings. And every 7 o'clock hour
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  Speaker 1: starts with our headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed
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  Speaker 1: Coors Light Cold as the Rockies. We'll start with baseball.
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  Speaker 1: The World Series is not over just yet. The Rays
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  Speaker 1: came from behind in the bottom of the 12th. They
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  Speaker 1: were trailing by a run. Brewers were three outs away
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  Speaker 1: from their first World Series win. championship in franchise history,
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  Speaker 1: but the Rays showed they still have some fight. They
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  Speaker 1: scored twice in the bottom of the 12th. The inning
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  Speaker 1: started with an error from the normally reliable Joey Ortiz,
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  Speaker 1: and so we will have a game five tonight back
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  Speaker 1: in Tampa. The Miz is going to get the start
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  Speaker 1: for the Brewers. Make no mistake about it. The Brewers
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  Speaker 1: still hold all of the cards in this, despite the
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  Speaker 1: inane conversation that I heard this morning regarding how Now
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  Speaker 1: the pressure's on the Brewers. You mean the team with
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  Speaker 1: the two-game lead and the fresher starting rotation because they
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  Speaker 1: haven't had... I mean, the Rays did throw their starting
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  Speaker 1: pitcher last night for this game. And the Brewers have
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  Speaker 1: a fully rested best pitcher in the world getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to start tonight. And they have two games in pocket
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  Speaker 1: that they play in Milwaukee still. And they have not
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  Speaker 1: ever appeared rattled this entire season at any moment. Was
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  Speaker 1: it their first loss in a couple weeks? Three weeks.
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  Speaker 1: First loss in 21 days. I'm sure they're just like
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  Speaker 1: their knees are knocking together. I'm sure they're going to
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  Speaker 1: fall apart.
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  Speaker 2: Absurd.
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  Speaker 1: So Game 5 tonight in Tampa. Also tonight, very busy
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  Speaker 1: schedule for us here in Seattle. Sounders in action at
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  Speaker 1: 7.30 against the Dynamo of Houston at Lumen Field. Almost
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  Speaker 1: called it Lambeau Field for some reason. Kraken are in
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  Speaker 1: action tonight again. They'll take on the Toronto Maple Leafs,
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  Speaker 1: one of the great brands in the NHL. That'll take
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  Speaker 1: place at Climate Pledge Arena as well. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 1: Al Koniski about that today. at 9 30 also we've
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  Speaker 1: got huskies in lincoln nebraska saturday night um and cam
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  Speaker 1: cleo will join us to talk about that at nine
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  Speaker 1: we still don't know who's going to start at quarterback
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  Speaker 1: uh cam will have a thought or two on that
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks will next play the Chicago Bears. That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be Monday night football, so an extra day to prepare
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  Speaker 1: for Mike McDonald and the crew coming off their best
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  Speaker 1: win by far of the season. And, of course, yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the big blockbuster news that happened right at the tail
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  Speaker 1: end of our show. The Seahawks acquired maybe the best guard,
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  Speaker 1: probably the best guard in the National Football League, future
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Quentin Nelson yesterday for a third-round pick
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  Speaker 1: and a fifth-round pick in 2028. And joining us now
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  Speaker 1: to discuss it is our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell, on
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  Speaker 1: the radio program as he joins us most every day
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  Speaker 1: here at 7.05. Good morning, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: All right, blockbuster trade to break down there yesterday, right there,
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  Speaker 1: right before your radio show. So give us the Greg
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  Speaker 1: Bell reaction to Quentin Nelson being a Seahawk.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thanks. First, I don't think it's a rental. This
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  Speaker 2: fits into Ernest Jones and Leonard Williams and Rashid Shaheed
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  Speaker 2: and even go back to Dwayne Brown. When he makes
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  Speaker 2: major moves in the middle of the season for a
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  Speaker 2: top veteran, he re-signs him. That's been his recent M.O.
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  Speaker 2: And John Schneider is not in the business of giving
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  Speaker 2: up multiple draft picks for a guy he's only going
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  Speaker 2: to have for three months. So that's first. So... If
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  Speaker 2: they are going to resign, and you can guarantee that
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  Speaker 2: he's already, before he even made the trade, he talked
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  Speaker 2: to Quentin Nelson's agents at CAA and said, okay, Tom
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  Speaker 2: Condon's one of them. He's had a long history with
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  Speaker 2: Tom Condon, back to the poison pill and Steve Hutchinson.
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  Speaker 2: They know what the number is to resign Quentin Nelson.
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  Speaker 2: That's number one. So I don't see this at all
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  Speaker 2: as being just the rest of this season. His contract
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  Speaker 2: ends after this year. His $ 80 million deal ends. And
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks know what number that is to redo beyond 2026.
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  Speaker 2: The interesting thing now is where they move Gray Zabel.
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  Speaker 2: Because Quentin Nelson, as you said, is the best left guard.
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  Speaker 2: It's metrics, opinions, coaches, scouts all say the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been a left guard his entire career with
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  Speaker 2: the Colts, eight seasons, eight Pro Bowls, three All-Pro, first-team selections.
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  Speaker 2: So why would you move him? Gray Zabel played right... guard,
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  Speaker 2: right tackle, left tackle at North Dakota State and some
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  Speaker 2: left guard. Every position he played at North Dakota State
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  Speaker 2: except center. The idea of him as a center, Gray Zabel,
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  Speaker 2: came from the senior bowl coming out of his college
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  Speaker 2: days and before he got drafted by the Seahawks in
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  Speaker 2: the first round in 2025. In Mobile, Alabama in January 2025,
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  Speaker 2: the NFL scouts wanted to see him at center. And
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  Speaker 2: so the Seahawks and everybody else in the league saw
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  Speaker 2: him at center that week during senior bowl practices. Is
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  Speaker 2: that where he goes? Anthony Bradford's on an expiring contract.
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  Speaker 2: The die seems to be cast here for Anthony Bradford.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the Seahawks make this move if they
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  Speaker 2: planned on re-upping Anthony Bradford. This is a sign to
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  Speaker 2: me that they're going to let Bradford's contract expire at
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  Speaker 2: right guard, and perhaps that's where Graves Abel's going. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what's that mean in the meantime for Bradford? Well, the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline's not until November 10th. And I could definitely
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  Speaker 2: see John Schneider, if his plan is to re-sign Quentin Nelson,
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  Speaker 2: to try to move Anthony Bradford, who has four years
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  Speaker 2: of starting experience and would command, most likely, at least
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  Speaker 2: the fifth-round pick that Schneider gave up. And then if
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  Speaker 2: you don't re-sign Quentin Nelson by some chance, which, again,
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  Speaker 2: I think is a small chance, you're going to get
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  Speaker 2: a third-round comp pick for losing him in free agency.
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  Speaker 2: So the net would be zero, and you get Quentin
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  Speaker 2: Nelson for at least a playoff run. You get what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah. If you could trade Bradford, you might
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  Speaker 2: have net of zero and eat Nelson for three years
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  Speaker 2: on somebody else's contract and just pay in a prorated
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  Speaker 2: part of half a season. I think that's the bare
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  Speaker 2: floor here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So in other words, another brilliant move by John
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  Speaker 1: Schneider at the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it looks like it, but then it makes you wonder,
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  Speaker 2: why doesn't another GM in the league do this? Yeah!
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  Speaker 2: Why doesn't another GM give up a third and a
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  Speaker 2: fifth and think, well, at least I can get a
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  Speaker 2: comp pick, a third-round pick if I can't re-sign him?
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  Speaker 2: it begs the question, it makes you wonder, after the
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  Speaker 2: deals are done, why didn't someone else do that? Why
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  Speaker 2: didn't someone else trade for Leonard Williams out of New
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  Speaker 2: York and get the best years of his career into
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  Speaker 2: his 30s? Yes, this goes right in line with all
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  Speaker 2: those other midseason moves he's made.
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  Speaker 1: And this change of Nelson being your left guard and
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  Speaker 1: whoever Zabel replaces, I mean, I I think I know
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  Speaker 1: the answer to it, but I'm just going to ask
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  Speaker 1: the question anyway. I mean, it's going to be implemented Monday, right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: Nelson's ready to play right away. I mean, the system's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be some shock to him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to play against the Bears Monday night as
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  Speaker 1: a Seahawks, correct?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine. Right, exactly. There should not be
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  Speaker 2: a ramp-up for an eight-year veteran, the top of his
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  Speaker 2: profession guy. Yeah, there's no scheme. They may call it
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  Speaker 2: different words, but there's no scheme. He doesn't know. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if he isn't playing right away.
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  Speaker 1: And he's perfect for the outside zone. That was one
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  Speaker 1: of the key points people were making for the last
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  Speaker 1: 24 hours, is that not only is he ideal for it,
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  Speaker 1: he might be the best at it that's ever played
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's... Yes, he has a trajectory of Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame credentials. There's been 16 players in the modern era
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  Speaker 2: who have made the Pro Bowl in each of their
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  Speaker 2: first eight years. Twelve of them are now in the
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. And there are a couple of those 16,
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  Speaker 2: the four that didn't make it, that aren't even eligible
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  Speaker 2: yet because they haven't been retired for four years. So
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  Speaker 2: that's one indication of how good Quentin Nelson's been.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of information provided by Greg there. On Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: and at KJR as well regarding the Quentin Nelson trade yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So a big blockbuster for the Seahawks with still two
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  Speaker 1: weeks left to go before the trading deadline. So is
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  Speaker 1: there room for more? I mean, usually in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League, Greg, because of the salary cap, it's not
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  Speaker 1: like Major League Baseball. Because of the salary cap, and
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  Speaker 1: most teams operate at least close to the cap, you
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  Speaker 1: usually get like one big swing at the NFL trading deadline.
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  Speaker 1: And once upon a time... Nobody took a swing at
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  Speaker 1: the NFL trading deadline. So is there room here for
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  Speaker 1: something else, another move?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they have cash and cap space to do another move.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's not going to be nearly a
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  Speaker 2: splash of bringing a three-time All-Pro in. And I've talked
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  Speaker 2: about it. I don't see Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley running
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  Speaker 2: back like that because of the draft capital and salary
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  Speaker 2: through 2028 each of those guys have. Otherwise, you just
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  Speaker 2: re-up Kenneth Walker back in the spring so I could
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  Speaker 2: see him making a move for a lesser running back
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  Speaker 2: than that I could also see the Bradford move they
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  Speaker 2: have three guards now three starting guards that have started
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  Speaker 2: multiple seasons in the NFL for two spots Jalen Sandell
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  Speaker 2: at center smart picks up audibles and blitz calls and
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  Speaker 2: changes in fronts, but not considered as big or as
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  Speaker 2: strong as some other centers in the NFL. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what they do with three guards. They move one of
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  Speaker 2: them to center, like I say with Grace Abel. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure Mike McDonald's not going to tell us, but we're
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  Speaker 2: going to ask him today. That's the question now. What
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  Speaker 2: do they do going forward? If they do like Anthony Bradford,
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  Speaker 2: like they said they have, And they plan on resigning him.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps Gray's able to center is the move. But we'll
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  Speaker 2: ask it. We probably won't get answers on that. But no,
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  Speaker 2: to answer your question, I can't see two title waves
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  Speaker 2: in one trading deadline period.
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  Speaker 1: But something else. I mean, Tony Pollard's salary works with
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: the cap room they have remaining. And you know how
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  Speaker 1: they always fudge the math anyway. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 1: real math.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can defer money. You can avoid your contracts.
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  Speaker 2: You can release guys and put them back on the
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  Speaker 2: practice squad to reduce rate. Yes, all of that. Someone
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  Speaker 2: that is damaged and been injured in Achilles recently but
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  Speaker 2: is available for next to free, Najee Harris. Something like that.
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  Speaker 2: A veteran who has had multiple thousand-yard seasons around the
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  Speaker 2: league and would cost you next to nothing with no risk.
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  Speaker 2: If he isn't healthy and isn't producing, then you release him.
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  Speaker 2: That could be another tight move in the running back spot.
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  Speaker 2: But they also think they're getting eventually Zach Charbonnet back
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  Speaker 2: and perhaps Jadarian Price this week back. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: get two new running backs to them. Certainly one new
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  Speaker 2: for this season. Charbonnet is coming back eventually, it appears.
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  Speaker 1: How much credit do we give John? I mean, we're
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  Speaker 1: already giving him a ton. But for the cleverness of
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  Speaker 1: this that, yeah, I recognize that we have a run
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  Speaker 1: game issue. We've got to be better. We've got to
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  Speaker 1: be more consistent. But there's more than one way to
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  Speaker 1: fix that. And I'm going to stand by my belief
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  Speaker 1: that we have the right parts in the running back room.
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  Speaker 1: And now I've just made the running game better by
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  Speaker 1: adding a guard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a commitment. You said at the beginning, it's
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  Speaker 2: a commitment to the outside zone and that they have
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  Speaker 2: decided that John Benton and his scheme and how he's
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  Speaker 2: preaching and teaching is here to stay. They've seen the results.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hell, they got a Emmanuel Wilson that got
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  Speaker 2: a hundred yard game for them against an undefeated team.
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  Speaker 2: running outside zone. That's how much they believe in the system.
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  Speaker 2: So that to me is a validation of they are
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  Speaker 2: so all in. It's why Brian Fleury is the offensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator and not somebody else with experience to continue the
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  Speaker 2: outside zone Shanahan run game. And this Quentin Nelson acquisition
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely all that.
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  Speaker 1: Charles Cross update. And then secondly, I mean, is there
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  Speaker 1: a chance that in the interim of Cross, if he's
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  Speaker 1: not available, that Zabel could play left tackle? Or does
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  Speaker 1: that go to Josh Jones?
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  Speaker 2: I would think it goes to Josh Jones. Interior versus
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  Speaker 2: becoming a tackle and doing that for the first time
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  Speaker 2: in the league are two different deals. That's apple to
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  Speaker 2: oranges to me. And that's why you have Jones on
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  Speaker 2: the team with an experienced former starter. That, to me,
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  Speaker 2: would make more sense. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider. And, of course,
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  Speaker 1: you can follow him at GBellSeattle for complete coverage of
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  Speaker 1: the Quentin Nelson trade yesterday. Big blockbuster. And San Francisco
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: didn't take long to follow up with the DeForest Buckner
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  Speaker 1: move themselves. How many teams do you think were kicking
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  Speaker 1: themselves over letting John Schneider slip this in on them
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  Speaker 1: at such a rate?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, on the surface, you go a third and a fifth,
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  Speaker 2: and you go, oh. My team could have done that. Yeah. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And it does make you wonder. But here's another thing.
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  Speaker 2: Ed Dodds is the interim GM in Indianapolis. You know
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  Speaker 2: who Ed Dodds worked with for about 12 years?
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  Speaker 1: John Schneider.
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider and the Seahawks. So that helps, too. John
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  Speaker 2: Schneider knows people. And when you're in the job for
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  Speaker 2: 17 years, you know people. And he knew people from
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay and Kansas City and Washington before this. He's
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  Speaker 2: the longest, on top of my head, I think he's
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  Speaker 2: the longest, him and Mickey Loomis with the Saints, are
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: among the longest tenured GMs in the sport. So they've
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  Speaker 2: got networks of people, both with agents and GMs and
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  Speaker 2: personnel and scouts, all over the league that other GMs don't.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of teams have these whiz-bang kid GMs, which
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  Speaker 2: is great, and they've got new ideas and analytics, but
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  Speaker 2: they don't know anybody. They don't have networks around the
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  Speaker 2: league like Snyder does. And his networks come into pretty handy.
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  Speaker 2: The Russell Wilson trade with Denver's GM, Patton. The Leonard
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Williams trade. The re-signings of the three agents that he's kept.
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  Speaker 2: The Rashid Shaheed trade and the agents. The interpersonal relationships
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  Speaker 2: that Snyder has has paid off for the last 15,
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  Speaker 2: 17 years that other teams just don't have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't underestimate the power of drinking, buddy. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you that much. oh yeah he's he's phenomenal i think
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  Speaker 1: it's a great point uh to make about him like
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  Speaker 1: just having somebody that has relationships across the league because
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  Speaker 1: i'm telling you every single one of these i my
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  Speaker 1: reaction is man how did you pull that off again
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  Speaker 1: and you Your original point, how do more teams, how
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: are they not capable of doing the things John Schneider?
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you copycat the way John Schneider handles an NFL
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  Speaker 1: trading deadline since he basically knocks it out of the
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  Speaker 1: park every year? And yet it's as if nobody wants
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  Speaker 1: to challenge the king right now. I mean, he's lapped
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  Speaker 1: them in this particular area of his job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, think about it. When Schneider picks up the phone
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  Speaker 2: and goes to Indianapolis, go, yo, Ed, how's the kids?
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  Speaker 2: Did you get a new house in Indianapolis? Yeah. Whereas
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  Speaker 2: if some other first-time GM calls, they're like, hi, this
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  Speaker 2: is so-and-so with the so-and-so. Can I speak to someone?
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  Speaker 2: I've got to go through the secretary. You've got to
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: be put on hold. You've got to have a voicemail.
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  Speaker 1: Our data says Nelson's worth a four and a six.
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  Speaker 1: That's what our data says.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's real life. That's what matters. There's some GMs
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  Speaker 2: that have to call the team switchboard and go through
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  Speaker 2: the main operator in front. John Schneider texts them and
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  Speaker 2: writes a trade proposal on the back of a napkin
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  Speaker 2: at a Starbucks in Indianapolis. I mean, it's the art
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  Speaker 2: of the deal. that's where Seattle has its advantage. The
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  Speaker 2: art of the deal with a GM who knows everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is when he's at his best. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's great. But this is remarkable. Every year he does this,
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  Speaker 1: and every year he catches the league off guard by
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: adding something to this team. So happy we've got him.
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  Speaker 2: And he's a scout. Fundamentally, he's a scout. He came
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: up as a scout. Ron Wolfe hired him as a
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  Speaker 2: scout in Green Bay. So he knows the weeds. He
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: knows your scouts, your team's scouts. He doesn't just know
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  Speaker 2: your team's GM. He knows the guys that are going
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: to Tuscaloosa and College Station and Columbus on weekends. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? He's got grassroots connections with these organizations.
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  Speaker 2: That's another factor in Seattle's favor is that his Rolodex
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't start at the top. It starts at the bottom
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: of other teams. And that's how he nails all these
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: other teams in the draft. That's how he knows some
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of their players better than some of the guys inside
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: their own team know them. So the networking and how
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: these deals get done is a fascinating component to this.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: What do you got at 10 o'clock today?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to Chicago, and the Chicago Tribune
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: beat writer is going to join us, talk about the Bears.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: We do Wednesday. We look at the opponent, and the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Bears are rolling because Ben Johnson's got Caleb Williams playing
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: really well, and Williams seems to be a perfect quarterback
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: for Ben Johnson. Williams is now healthy. This is a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: big task for Mike McDonald and the Seahawks. But when
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you get an extra day, when Mike McDonald gets any
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: extra days recently, ever since that Tampa loss last year,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: when they get extra days, they shut down on offense.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: All right. Sounds great. We'll be listening. Thank you, sir.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday. Thank you. All right.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joining us right here on
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the radio program as he does most every day at 7.05. Now,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen doesn't normally join us at 8 o'clock on Wednesdays,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: never joins us on Wednesdays, but he's going to today.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: We're going to get his deep dive thoughts on Quentin Nelson.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We'd be fools not to, so we'll do that a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show. Coming up next, though,
• 19:00
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• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We've got an interesting angle to this week's Waver Wire Wednesday. Maybe, maybe,
• 19:11
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• 19:14
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• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Save a lot of money. This money's already spent. I'd
• 19:20
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• 19:23
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• 19:26
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• 19:30
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• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I really do take that seriously. I try to help
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you out with your fantasy team, maybe give you something
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that you weren't thinking about. That's what I'm going to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: do with this entire episode this week. Because the trading
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: deadline is coming, If it didn't land yet in your
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: head and heart, it should have yesterday with Quentin Nelson
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: getting traded to the Seahawks. That should have woken you up.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to get some moves. The big moves are underway.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody now is like, oh gosh, I can't wait. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: can't wait a week and a half. Seahawks 49ers already
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: started the ball rolling. We might see some moves here
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and there could be a couple of things that By
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the time the moves are over, a couple players might
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: be a lot more valuable than they seem right now.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts have already started their fire sale. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: picked up Josh Downs this week. Josh Downs, all right,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Colts and Daniel Jones, and you're looking
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: at the projected eight points that he's going to score
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: this week, man, I don't want Josh Downs. But now
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: imagine if Josh Downs is in a Chiefs uniform. Oh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: that's a lot more intriguing. Or a 49ers uniform.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Or a Rams uniform with Devontae Adams hurt right now.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Or a Buffalo Bills uniform with DJ Moore not quite
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: providing what they thought. Now all of a sudden it changes. Now,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he might not end up with one of those teams,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: but he is going to be traded. And yet... If
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: your roster is so stacked that you can't roll the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: dice on possibly getting a Kansas City Chiefs Josh Downs
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: on your team right now and pull one over, a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: fast one over on the rest of the people in
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: your league, then you can't. Good for you. If your
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: roster is so full that you couldn't remove one guy
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: from it to add a player that could be the Chiefs'
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: number one receiver by next week if they don't get
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: anybody else healthy, then good for you. You've got a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: great roster. Don't change a thing. Don't do it. Brian
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Thomas is another one. Even though the Jaguars look good,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: he's obviously fallen out of favor there. There's a lot
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of talk that he could move. If he ends up
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills or one of those four teams
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that I missed, I just mentioned, then that changes him.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Even like a Quentin Johnston, who I don't believe in,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: but it might be worth taking a risk on a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: deep threat. You don't know what team he might end
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: up on. He's with the Chargers right now. They obviously
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: can't function. I would also say from the running back position,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I do think Tony Pollard's going to get traded. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: think the Titans saying that he's not available is either
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: stupid or it's the worst Poker play of all time.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You are bluffing, you idiot. I have such a good hand. Yeah, exactly.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: There's no way you should keep him. You have to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: trade him. So I'm not saying that if he goes
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: somewhere else that he's probably already on a roster. He's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: probably starting with teams.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But now, look at his backups. Tajay Spears probably isn't
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: on a roster right now. It could be the rookie
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Nick Singleton, who looked pretty good in the preseason. Might
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: be worth it. Might be worth the gamble. Philadelphia, if
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they move on from Barkley, Tank Bigsby's going to be
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: back from the injury list at some point. He's probably
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: wide open available in your league. And Damian Pierce has
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: been pretty good for them as a substitute. Dallas Goddard
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: from the Eagles is also a guy that could end
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: up on another team uh, here real soon. So another
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: way to look at it, maybe it's the type of
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: move that you could make, uh, that gets one over
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: on your league buddies, but, uh, keep an eye on
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that because we are going to see some player movement
• 23:11
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• 24:21
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• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You know something? This might be, and I know this
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: is going to sound crazy, this might be a playoff game. Really?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: The winner of this game might win the division. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: don't believe in Carolina. Do you believe in Carolina?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Not really.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: No. And New Orleans is cooked. They're done. Like, It's
• 25:49
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• 25:52
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• 25:56
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• 25:58
  Speaker 1: win over the 49ers. They've already been on that roll
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: since Michael got back. And now Tampa Bay's coming off
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a dominant performance over Carolina. Defensive first dominant. No, it
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: was defense. It was defense. Baker didn't have a great game. No,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Bucky Irvin. Oh, Bucky Irvin did. Yeah, he absolutely did.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But Baker's back. You can't bury any team in that division.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: This could be, like, whoever wins this game might win
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the NFC South. How about that? How about that for
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a hot take? In week, what, eight?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Because it might be just that thing. Gets them, like, okay,
• 26:35
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  Speaker 1: 93.3 KJR FM. All the money at the expense of
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  Speaker 1: the product of the sport, of its growth, then yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: stay on that train. I've been trying to tell you,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I've never been for a salary cap, but I have
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: come around in the last couple of years, and it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: almost essential for the game's growth that we get the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: same rules the National Football League and the NBA operate by,
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  Speaker 1: and they have experienced tremendous growth since they have incorporated
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a salary cap, which also includes a salary floor. And
• 27:39
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• 27:42
  Speaker 1: why it became even more apparent with this series. Because
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: right now, the average national baseball fan won't watch the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Dodgers and the Yankees in the World Series because... They
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just spin and they spin and we never do. And
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: they can, who cares? Like they just outspend one another
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and they're the only reason that they're in. And then
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: we get two teams that don't do that. The Milwaukee
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Brewers and the Tampa Bay Rays, who without spending, are
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: clearly the two best teams in their respective leagues. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: here they are putting on a classic World Series for us. Sure,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee was up 3-0 going into tonight, or going into
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: last night. But the first two games of the series
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: were spectacular, featuring two worthy teams that don't have the same, like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: all we do is outspend everybody persona, and they give
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: us some great baseball, and it just so happens that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee has won all three of the games, and then
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I have to read on social media from a thousand
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: different people, is this the worst World Series ever? How
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: does baseball win when that is the perception of baseball
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: fans that aren't really watching because their local team's not
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in and their local team can't get in because baseball's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: broken and our owner doesn't spend enough money to let
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: us compete?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Okay? That's the reason why you're not watching. Because locally,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: unless you're in Tampa, everybody's mad about the World Series
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: when their team gets there. But nationally, the average fan
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: who considers himself a baseball fan or herself a baseball
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: fan won't watch if the big spending teams get in,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and they won't watch if the low spending teams, cause
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: they don't believe them worthy. The NFL does not have
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to deal with this. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and green
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers, same two cities could meet in the NFC
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: championship game. And the ratings would go off the charts. Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs could meet the Packers in the Super Bowl,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and nobody's spending any time thinking about, two small market
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: clubs are in the Super Bowl, I'm not watching. Or
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: if the Rams played the Jets. Nobody's going to watch
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that Super Bowl with the idea that, oh, big market club.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Nobody.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And it's because the NFL and the NBA put in
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a salary cap years ago, and they made it an
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: even playing field. And so now fans don't feel like
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the playing surface is unfair. The playing landscape is unfair.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So you watch. It's not that the Super Bowl, that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: football's that much more entertaining of a game to watch
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: than baseball. It's that people believe in the product and
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that people want the product because people like the fact
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that there's not a team out there with grossly unfair
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: advantages out there and they don't blame that for the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: reason why their team isn't in the World Series. They
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: don't have to deal with that. LeBron James can go
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Cavaliers and they can be the most
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: watched team in the NBA. Wimby can go to the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs and people can't get enough of them.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It's because the NBA and the NFL don't have to
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: worry about those biases. And if the argument is, yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: but the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes, and even greater evidence
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: for my argument. Because in those leagues, you can draft
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. You can develop a great quarterback. He can
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: become a superstar. He can be on every shampoo commercial
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: and insurance commercial on every television break that you have.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And you don't have to lose him because you have
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the financial means because of the salary cap. And floor.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and four, to keep Patrick Mahomes on your roster in
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a small market. There is no big giant advantage for
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles teams to get Patrick Mahomes, where the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers and Tampa Bay Rays, if they draft a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: top player and he becomes a superstar, they have a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: really hard time keeping that player. They've got to do
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: clever contracts like Jerry and John did with Cal Raleigh
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and Julio Rodriguez, rolling the dice on them before they
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: ever become superstars, just on the hope that they will
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: become superstars. You don't have to do that in the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: National Football League and the NBA. And that's why a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: small market team in Kansas City can have a household
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: name in Patrick Mahomes leading them as their quarterback for
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a 20-year span. Baseball has to go to the salary
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: cap because I am so tired of the biases that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: are expressed by people who call themselves baseball fans that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: won't win a World Series if a big market club's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: in it and won't watch a World Series if a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: small market club's in it. The only thing that you'll
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: root for or you'll tune in for is a Chicago Cubs,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: they haven't won in 100 years type of story. If
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: there's a hero you can root for and a villain
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you can root against, it's the only thing that can
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: move the needle for Major League Baseball when it comes
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: to a national television audience. If we change the rules,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: if we give ourselves a cap, if every baseball fan
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: in every Major League Baseball city believes that going into
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the season, if we don't make it, it's because somebody
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in the front office or somebody on the bench or
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: somebody on the field didn't get it done. It's not
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: because the rules of the game don't allow my team
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: to be good. They've got to get where the NBA
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and the NFL are so that we can stop talking
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: about whether or not a small market team or a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: big market team is of any significance any longer.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a PR issue. It's not anything other than that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Everyone thinks it's a parody issue.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Major League Baseball has just as much parody, if not more,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: than those other leagues that you're talking about. But it's
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: a perception issue more than anything else.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: That's how you get the big national audiences that the
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: nba and nfl get it's you want to watch your
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: you know you want to watch the best exactly even
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: if your team's not.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: In it you still want to watch the best baseball
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: does not have that in their.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Corner absolutely not it's all about market size that's the
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: first thing people think about when you know they think
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: about the teams that maybe besides local teams obviously it's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: like oh it's the big market team versus the small
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: market team If it's Yankees, Dodgers in 2024, it's up.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: It's the teams that spend more than anyone else. That's
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: why they're in the World Series.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Baseball has to get those biases out of their sport
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in order to grow. Because locally, everybody's doing fine. Most
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: teams are doing fine. It's the national television audience that
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: won't show up because of the biases that are built
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: in to the sport. And that's what Rob Manfred wants
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a salary cap for. And that's why baseball needs to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: have one. And a floor... Before anybody corrects me, they
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: go hand in hand. Whenever I say there's a salary cap,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: there's got to be a salary floor. But baseball's got
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: to get rid of that big market versus small market stuff,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: or they're never going to be able, from a perception standpoint,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to be embraced like the NFL and the NBA are
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: as leagues. We have Mariners fans. We don't have baseball
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: fans anymore. We have You know, we have Mets fans.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: We don't have baseball fans anymore. They got to get
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: back to having a nation that likes the game and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: likes to see it played at its highest level. And
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: right now, people don't because they have a bias against
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the small market club because I've never heard of any
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of these guys or the big market club because all
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: they do is spend. We have to get rid of it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: The owners have to win. Rob Manfred has to win
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: in this round of collective bargaining. All right, Hugh Millen's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: next on KJR.