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Donell Jones Tells What Really Happened on Versuz · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 3: bringing you guys part one of an exclusive conversation.
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Speaker 2: That I know is going to shake the room. because Mr.
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Speaker 3: Donnell Jones, R & B singer, will be joining us,
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Speaker 3: and he rarely, rarely ever does interviews. I had a time,
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Speaker 3: even in trying to prepare for this one, because there
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Speaker 3: ain't much out there.
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Speaker 2: About him, and we get into all of that.
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Speaker 3: You know, he comes from a time in music where
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Speaker 3: it was better for the talent to be seen, literally,
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Speaker 3: while doing your talent, the songs, the hits, the charting,
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Speaker 3: and not the talking, not the interviews. So, We're going
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Speaker 3: to learn some new things. I think you guys will
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Speaker 3: learn some new things, but also we're going to get
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Speaker 3: into that versus and what went wrong or what he
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Speaker 3: thinks was just another day, another walk in the park
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Speaker 3: that he does not regret. Let's get on into the
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Speaker 3: convo now. Well, we are here now in 2026. Now, um,
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Speaker 3: we took you through the timeline. We most recently saw
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Speaker 3: you at the versus with Joe fresh off the versus
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Speaker 3: stage talk first, before we get into the actual versus,
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Speaker 3: how did the versus come about? Did you guys hit
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Speaker 3: each other up and be like, y'all want to do this?
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Speaker 3: The versus reach out to you guys. Like how did
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Speaker 3: it even happen?
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Speaker 1: Well, versus reached out to us.
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Speaker 4: Um, and I had seen Joe in the airport and, uh,
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Speaker 4: we had a conversation, man.
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Speaker 1: And, uh, it was really dope.
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Speaker 4: Um, And, you know, once we decided to do it,
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Speaker 4: you know, I got on the phone with him. We
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Speaker 4: was like, yo, you know, like the last couple of
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Speaker 4: verses has been really, really a little disrespectful. We have
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to do something really good for the culture.
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Speaker 4: Let's just make this about like a celebration, you know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying? So when we decided to do that,
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Speaker 4: I mean, it just felt great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all verses felt different. First of all, y'all came
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Speaker 3: out and already knew who was going to go first.
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Speaker 3: There's normally like a little... You know, you talking back
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Speaker 3: and forth, talking a little crazy to each other about
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Speaker 3: who's going to go first, who's not.
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Speaker 2: Y'all already knew that. That was number one.
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Speaker 3: Estelle hosting it. So she kicked off the night very classy.
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Speaker 3: She looked beautiful. It was great to see her on stage, though.
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen her in some time. And did you
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Speaker 3: guys reach out to Estelle to host it?
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Speaker 1: Nah, that was Apple. You know, that was Complex or
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Speaker 1: whoever does that over at Versus.
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Speaker 4: I mean, but to be honest with you, I thought
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Speaker 4: we was going to do the coin toss on stage,
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Speaker 4: but when I got the sound check, they was like, well, we.
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Speaker 1: Decided that you're going to go first. I was like, what?
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Speaker 3: I thought, I'm like, no, they're so classy.
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Speaker 2: It's so cool. They came out already.
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Speaker 3: No, that was the first time I ever seen that ever.
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Speaker 2: It's normally they like, you know, it's a little, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm going for like, you talk a little.
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Speaker 1: Ish a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I think they knew that he was going to have
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Speaker 4: the 50 cent moment. So they was like, well, we
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Speaker 4: got to let that go last. Because, I mean, like,
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Speaker 4: that's probably going to make more sense.
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Speaker 1: So, I mean, I get it why they wanted me
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Speaker 1: to go first.
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Speaker 4: But I didn't know 50 was going to be there
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Speaker 4: until he actually popped out on stage.
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Speaker 1: So that was like, I think they knew that moment
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Speaker 1: was going to happen.
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Speaker 4: And so they were like, yeah, you go first.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right.
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Speaker 2: So, all right.
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Speaker 3: Now let's get into the verses. So first of all,
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Speaker 3: you didn't know 50 Cent was even going to be there.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think he would do it. I mean, I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest. I didn't think he was going to do it.
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Speaker 4: Cause I'm like, cause I be, like, I be feeling
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Speaker 4: like 50, 50, like if I don't own part of
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Speaker 4: this shit, like I ain't doing it.
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Speaker 1: So I thought he wasn't going to do it.
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Speaker 3: I was surprised to see him. But I know the,
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Speaker 3: they say this is a big risk. I know that
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Speaker 3: that's a huge, I mean, it's big for Joe, but
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Speaker 3: I know that that was really big for the Power Universe.
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Speaker 3: When they tried to change that song, we were like, uh-uh.
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Speaker 3: People argued them down online enough where they changed it back.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: I understood it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had changed it from the song with Joe
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Speaker 3: to a song with Trey Songz on it. And the
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Speaker 3: audience was so loud online, they changed the theme song back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they made him come out, man, because,
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Speaker 4: I mean, like, but it was so dope, though.
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Speaker 1: It was so dope.
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Speaker 4: That moment was really good, and it felt good. I
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Speaker 4: felt like it was kind of dirty, you know.
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: You said like they were what?
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Speaker 4: No, I said I felt like it was kind of dirty,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, how they did that.
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Speaker 1: But it was cool, though. I kind of expected it,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't think he was going to be there.
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Speaker 3: I thought they let y'all know, like, who is bringing who.
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Speaker 3: That's not a thing?
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Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah. Nah, I didn't know that.
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Speaker 4: You know, I kind of, I figured it was a possibility,
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Speaker 4: but it wasn't like, nobody said like, okay, he definitely
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Speaker 4: bringing 50, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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Speaker 3: So how did you feel when you saw people reacting
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Speaker 3: to your performance on the versus? Like people had a
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Speaker 3: lot to say. I know we talked about it the
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Speaker 3: next on the breakfast club. I don't know if you
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Speaker 3: saw our, did you see our critique on it?
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Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I didn't. I haven't watched anything. I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen anything or anything like that, but I get it.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like it's a, it's a competition.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And, uh, People are going
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Speaker 1: to have their opinions about what they feel. And I'm
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Speaker 1: okay with that. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you were at a disadvantage? Because
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Speaker 3: I know, like, we were literally watching you. You were
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Speaker 3: asking for, like, your audio to be turned up. And, like,
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Speaker 3: what was happening with your sound?
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was a couple of times where, you know,
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Speaker 4: I really couldn't hear the ears and things like that.
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Speaker 4: But we don't... I'm not the kind of person where
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Speaker 4: I blame anything or I let the cards fall where
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Speaker 4: they may and we deal with it afterwards. And so
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say that I felt like something
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Speaker 4: was wrong. I'm just going to say that, you know,
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Speaker 4: it is what it is. And I appreciated the moment
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Speaker 4: because it was really dope. I think we did something
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Speaker 4: great for R & B. And I've always loved Joe's music.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like there's anything you would have done differently, though,
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Speaker 3: with the performance? Even if it is what it is
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Speaker 3: and you, you know what I mean? Like, I get
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Speaker 3: what you're saying there. But do you feel like there's
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Speaker 3: something you would have done differently because there were so
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Speaker 3: many people that were watching who may have discovered Donnell Jones,
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Speaker 3: like younger people watching? who might've discovered Donnell Jones for
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Speaker 3: the first time. And now it's because of all these
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Speaker 3: like viral remakes and jokes about the way that you
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Speaker 3: sounded on the stage.
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Speaker 4: Um, I don't, I don't know if I would've did
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Speaker 4: anything differently. I mean, you know, I, I probably would've changed, uh,
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Speaker 4: like I didn't get a chance.
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Speaker 1: To do, you know, that I love you. There was
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Speaker 1: a couple of records that I didn't get a chance
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Speaker 1: to do.
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Speaker 2: A lot of your big records.
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Speaker 4: I didn't think that, but see the thing is, I
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Speaker 4: didn't think that like we were, we were supposed to
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Speaker 4: do 20 songs at first and then it got cut
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Speaker 4: down to 15 and And then.
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Speaker 1: He started doing back-to-back songs.
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Speaker 4: And so I didn't, to be honest with you, I
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Speaker 4: didn't even know where we were as far as the
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Speaker 4: number of songs that we were supposed to do. Nobody
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Speaker 4: was keeping count. Like, okay, how many songs did we do?
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Speaker 4: What songs did we do? What songs didn't we do?
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Speaker 4: And so nobody was really keeping count of that. So
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Speaker 4: I really didn't even know, like, damn, did I do this?
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Speaker 1: Did I do that?
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Speaker 4: I just seen a list of songs. And I'm like, damn,
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Speaker 4: what didn't I do? But nobody could tell me what
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Speaker 4: we didn't do.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, damn.
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Speaker 2: So you had 20 songs.
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Speaker 3: Your DJ just basically has everything ready, and you're just
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Speaker 3: letting your DJ know as you go out what you
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Speaker 3: want to do? It's planned, but you're not going in
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Speaker 3: an order that is planned?
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Speaker 1: Correct. So what it is, and we didn't even have DJs.
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Speaker 1: We had bands. Oh, yeah. Okay.
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Speaker 4: And so there's a list, but nobody is scratching off
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Speaker 4: the list and saying, okay, you did this, you did this.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at a list.
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Speaker 4: And I'm sure he's looking at a list because it's
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Speaker 4: kind of based on, okay, if he does this song,
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Speaker 4: then I'm going to do this song. If he do this,
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Speaker 4: then I'm going to do this. So it's kind of
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Speaker 4: like a back and forth. It's not like a list
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Speaker 4: of songs where you go, all right, we did this, this, this, this, this, this, this.
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Speaker 4: It's more like you're just grabbing a song.
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Speaker 1: If he do this, I'll do this. So that's kind
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Speaker 1: of like the setup.
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Speaker 2: Got you, got you.
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Speaker 3: What is one thing that you walked away from the
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Speaker 3: Versus stage when it comes to... Because you've been performing
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Speaker 3: live literally... I'm 34 years old. You have literally an
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Speaker 3: album that is 30 years old. You've been doing this
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Speaker 3: for some decades. But I think in a lot of
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Speaker 3: the critiques that I was seeing, people were talking as
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Speaker 3: if this is like the first time that they've seen
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Speaker 3: you on stage and the performance wasn't what I think
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Speaker 3: a lot of people expected because we've been listening to
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Speaker 3: those records for so long. Is there any, is there
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Speaker 3: anything that you think in preparation for the stage, you
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Speaker 3: not would have done different, but like you learned from
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Speaker 3: this versus moment that even you and your veteran years
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Speaker 3: and yet, you know, a legend at what you do,
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Speaker 3: we're like, Oh, this was, that was the first.
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Speaker 2: Time thing for me.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that I, I don't think that I,
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Speaker 4: There's anything I could have did differently.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we got to understand the voice is a muscle.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And you're not going to
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Speaker 1: have a great day all the time.
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Speaker 4: Again, I don't like making excuses because, I mean, it
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Speaker 4: is a big platform.
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Speaker 1: And I can't make.
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Speaker 4: Excuses for what happened. I can just say that it
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Speaker 4: wasn't one of my better days. And, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, I let
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Speaker 4: the cards fall where they may. People have their opinions.
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Speaker 4: This is not me all the time. And so that's
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Speaker 4: what I can leave.
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Speaker 1: With, you know.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like there should have been a different
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Speaker 3: matchup for you? Because that was another conversation, too. Like,
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Speaker 3: both of you guys are great at what you do
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Speaker 3: and have these amazing catalogs, but people felt like the
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Speaker 3: matchup didn't really make sense either. But I saw you
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Speaker 3: guys say that you guys were like a dream matchup.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 4: Because I think our catalog, we both have similar catalogs.
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Speaker 4: Quite naturally, Joe is from more of a church background.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And I'm not.
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Speaker 4: I've never sang in church. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: So there's going to be a difference in that. But
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Speaker 4: I think we share similar catalogs. You know, again, we
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Speaker 4: both had the big pun moment together. A lot of
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Speaker 4: our songs came out around the same time. And so
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Speaker 4: I think that's what we share. I'm not sure what
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Speaker 4: other matchup it would have been that would have been better.
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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of people say Avant, but we
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Speaker 4: haven't seen Avant do a show in a while.
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Speaker 1: So who knows, you know? So what other person could
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Speaker 1: it have been?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what other person. Okay, I can understand.
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Speaker 3: I think I could understand why people would say Avant, but...
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Avant, does his catalog spend the
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Speaker 3: years that yours does?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. But again, he would have been
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Speaker 1: another great opponent for Joe.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think really nobody really wanted to go
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Speaker 4: up against Joe. Because, I mean, Joe, again, has a
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Speaker 4: very incredible catalog. And me, personally, I didn't mind. You
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? I felt like, yo, this could
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Speaker 4: be great for both of us.
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Speaker 3: So what has come for you since the versus? Cause
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Speaker 3: we always hear artists talk about like how the streams
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Speaker 3: go crazy. The tour opportunities come like what, what has
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Speaker 3: happened for you since the versus?
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Speaker 4: I mean, the streams have been crazy, man. We definitely, um,
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Speaker 4: a lot of shows have come. Uh, I mean, I just,
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Speaker 4: I recently just found out that, that, uh, we did a,
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Speaker 4: I don't know what you call it, but, um, we.
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Speaker 1: Just looked at, at all the streams, the streaming stuff.
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Speaker 4: And, and we just found out that, that, majority of
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Speaker 4: my fans now are like 35 down.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Which is crazy. And I'm like, wow,
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Speaker 1: how did this happen?
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Speaker 2: It's the virality of the internet.
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Speaker 1: Like, let me tell you something.
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Speaker 3: One thing about that versus stage, and that's why I
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Speaker 3: think what Swizz Beatz and Timbaland did with the platform
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Speaker 3: is so dope from the time that they started it
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Speaker 3: in the pandemic to now, is not only does it
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Speaker 3: breathe a new life into your catalog because it exposes
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Speaker 3: you to another era of fans, but it like, reinvigorates
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Speaker 3: it in a way where like people might not have
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Speaker 3: been listening to in 2026 unless they were like a
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Speaker 3: fan that caught on years ago they listening to it
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Speaker 3: today like it came out yesterday which is amazing for
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Speaker 3: you guys that are you know what i.
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Speaker 4: Mean it is because i mean that i mean like
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Speaker 4: i had a song that i put out i don't
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Speaker 4: know how many years i mean like maybe 15 years
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Speaker 4: ago and it's It's viral. I'm like, damn, this song
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Speaker 4: came out.
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Speaker 1: 15 years ago.
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Speaker 4: Why are people asking for this damn song like this?
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Speaker 1: And it's crazy, but it just.
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Speaker 4: Goes to show you, man, that music has no expiration date.
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like now you've got a chip on
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Speaker 3: your shoulder, though, where wherever you perform now, after the verses,
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Speaker 3: it's like you've got to show up and show out
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Speaker 3: because the people, they talking shit.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it is what
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Speaker 1: it is.
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Speaker 4: And that's what's going to happen. I think it's going
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Speaker 4: to surprise a lot of people. That, I mean, you
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Speaker 4: can't base everything off of one performance that you see.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Like, it's just ridiculous if you do. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying? But at the same time, I know where
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Speaker 1: we're at. I know where we live at now. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: And they'll take one moment and let that moment try
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Speaker 4: to paint your narrative for forever. But, I mean, you
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Speaker 4: got to have thick skin doing this right here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you do. Yes, you do.
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Speaker 3: 100%. Well, I appreciate you, Mr. Donnell Jones, for joining us. So,
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Speaker 3: is there new music coming?
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Speaker 2: A lot of people dropping music around the verses.
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Speaker 1: Yes. We're in the studio working on something new right now.
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Speaker 4: And the name of it will be Elevate. And I'm
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Speaker 4: just ecstatic about being able to do something new. You know,
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Speaker 4: my last project was probably about maybe six, seven years ago.
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Speaker 4: So I'm happy to put something else out now.
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Speaker 2: Dang, almost a decade ago. And now you back at
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Speaker 2: it again, new music jargon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Look at that.
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Speaker 3: Did you, were you already planning to do this project
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Speaker 3: before the Versus happened or because Versus came and opportunity
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Speaker 3: was there, you're like, let's, figure it out because of
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Speaker 3: what the platform was going to do.
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Speaker 1: Um, you know, I was something that we had already
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Speaker 1: planned on doing.
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Speaker 4: Um, and you know, again, we had been speaking about
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Speaker 4: this versus for, for like a while, ever since like,
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Speaker 4: like 2020, we were talking about this.
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Speaker 1: So, but it just never, never came to fruition.
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Speaker 3: 2020.
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Speaker 2: Why did it take so long?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't even know.
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Speaker 4: I think that there was some other things they wanted
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Speaker 4: to get to first before they got to this one.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just happy that we got to it. We
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Speaker 1: did it.
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Speaker 4: The buildup was ridiculous, man. I mean, like just trying
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Speaker 4: to get the contracts and get it done and then
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Speaker 4: the buildup to it. So it was a lot of anxiety.
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Speaker 4: It was a lot of things going on. But again,
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Speaker 4: it was a beautiful platform. And I love what Swiss
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Speaker 4: has done and what Apple and Complex and Versus, man.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a really, really beautiful thing
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Speaker 4: that they're doing.
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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see who comes next.
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Speaker 3: And you guys get like some ownership in the company
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Speaker 3: or something like that, right?
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Speaker 2: When you do versus?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know about that part.
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Speaker 3: I thought there was something like you guys get to be,
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Speaker 3: maybe there's like a stake in something.
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Speaker 4: There's some memorabilia stuff that they're selling that they bring
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Speaker 4: the artists in on and that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a beautiful platform for sure.
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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I love that. I
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Speaker 2: love that.
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you're not, like, letting all of the, like,
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Speaker 3: the stuff.
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Speaker 2: Because they was coming at you pretty hard the day after.
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Speaker 2: But you know how.
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Speaker 3: Under people can get. Like, you know how we can
14:43
Speaker 3: get a bit. It's like, they do it. They make
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Speaker 3: the jokey jokes.
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Speaker 2: They move on. And then they back the bump in,
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Speaker 2: you know, where I want to be.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what?
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Speaker 4: Like, again, you know, I can't do nothing. If I
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Speaker 4: can't laugh at myself, then, I mean, why am I
14:55
Speaker 4: doing this? I mean, because if you're going to be
14:57
Speaker 4: upset and you're going to be all in your feelings, like,
14:59
Speaker 4: you can't do this type of work.
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Speaker 3: I know your kids online seeing some of the remakes, though,
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Speaker 3: because you got comedians remaking the performances.
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Speaker 4: Yo, I've seen some new performances, and I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 4: that dude really look like me. What's his name?
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Speaker 2: The light-skinned comedian guy. Yes. Oh, my God. Yo. And he, like,
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Speaker 2: in his living room?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, this is.
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Speaker 3: So spot on from the white button. They trying to
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Speaker 3: say you had on shapewear and everything.
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Speaker 2: They was really on you.
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Speaker 1: That was hilarious, man. That was hilarious.
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Speaker 2: You got through it. You got through it.
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Speaker 1: We are here.
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Speaker 3: New project coming. You know, all the songs are streaming crazy.
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Speaker 3: So congratulations on, you know, just that on, you know,
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Speaker 3: that new discovered audience and everything that is to come.
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Speaker 3: We appreciate you at the latest with Lauren LaRose. I
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Speaker 3: don't care what the people saying. I'm going to press
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Speaker 3: play on where I want to be or where you
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Speaker 3: want to be.
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Speaker 2: Whoever want to be there. We're going to press play
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Speaker 2: after this.
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Speaker 1: Okay.