Latest / Brian Thomas / Ken Kober - CPD Officer Assaulted. Where's is the City Manager?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The talk station 632 55 care cd talk station last
- 0:04Speaker 1: minute guests are great signal 99 first and on the
- 0:07Speaker 1: heels of that the return of insane police department president
- 0:11Speaker 1: of the union fop president he ken cober ken good
- 0:15Speaker 1: to hear you good to have you back on the
- 0:16Speaker 1: show today to respond to the violence over the weekend
- 0:18Speaker 1: and I was blown away by the beatdown that Signal
- 0:21Speaker 1: 99 had a video of on her site this morning,
- 0:23Speaker 1: and nobody else reporting on it yet anyway. But I'd
- 0:27Speaker 1: like to know if you have any information on the officer.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Is the officer or officers that were injured over the
- 0:33Speaker 1: weekend in this brawl, are they okay?
- 0:36Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, Brian. Yeah, they're both okay. I've talked
- 0:39Speaker 2: to one of them, and one of them is actually
- 0:40Speaker 2: a pretty good friend of mine. It's just... It's one
- 0:45Speaker 2: of those things where you show up to work, try
- 0:46Speaker 2: to restore order, keep the city safe, and you have
- 0:48Speaker 2: people that are doing everything they possibly can to make
- 0:52Speaker 2: Cincinnati the biggest toilet they can. And this weekend they succeeded.
- 0:57Speaker 1: They sure did. Well, my understanding, it all started on
- 0:59Speaker 1: Short Vine. Things got a little bit out of control
- 1:02Speaker 1: with thousands of Halloween party girlers. So cops had to
- 1:06Speaker 1: show up since the police ended up closing down Short Vine.
- 1:09Speaker 1: But the entire crew just moved on over to the
- 1:11Speaker 1: BP station at Jefferson and Corey. And, well, got involved
- 1:15Speaker 1: in some property damage, and that's apparently where the police
- 1:17Speaker 1: officers were hit, were beaten up. I just, I don't know.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I'm just still reeling over the fact that we live
- 1:24Speaker 1: in a society where people think it's just okay to
- 1:26Speaker 1: start wailing on a police officer. Again, someone's there to
- 1:29Speaker 1: try to control the situation and keep people safe.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Well, you know, it certainly doesn't happen everywhere. It doesn't
- 1:38Speaker 2: happen in counties where you have law and order judges,
- 1:41Speaker 2: where you have consequences for your actions. I mean, you
- 1:44Speaker 2: don't see something like this regularly happening in Butler, Warren, Claremont,
- 1:49Speaker 2: Dearborn County. Things like this just don't happen there because
- 1:53Speaker 2: people actually respect the rule of law for the most
- 1:55Speaker 2: part in those counties, but not here in Hamilton County.
- 1:58Speaker 2: We just allow people to do what they want, and
- 2:01Speaker 2: I'm sure the assailant will be out of jail here shortly.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah, without question. Let's not overlook our friends in northern
- 2:06Speaker 1: Kentucky and southeastern Indiana. Don't see those things going on
- 2:09Speaker 1: in the counties that are in those areas either.
- 2:12Speaker 2: No, absolutely.
- 2:12Speaker 1: You're right.
- 2:13Speaker 2: It's because they have elected officials that are for law
- 2:16Speaker 2: and order. And unfortunately, it's just something we are certainly
- 2:20Speaker 2: lacking in Hamilton County.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Certainly. Let's pause. We'll bring Ken Cobra back. FOP President
- 2:25Speaker 1: Ken Cobra. God bless the Cincinnati Police Department. This is
- 2:27Speaker 1: what they have to do. Show theme song music. We
- 2:39Speaker 1: have FOP President Ken Cobra representing the Cincinnati Police Department Union.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Of course, you made a comment about the judges, the
- 2:45Speaker 1: judicial race. Of course, Signal 99 did the same thing.
- 2:48Speaker 1: It's so important we get judges that are willing to
- 2:50Speaker 1: be tough on crime. Signal 99 speculated that a lot
- 2:53Speaker 1: of people in that terrible street takeover that took over
- 2:57Speaker 1: the weekend where the police officers got beat up, a
- 3:00Speaker 1: lot of them maybe had been juveniles. Maybe a lot
- 3:02Speaker 1: of them had been processed through the very lenient juvenile
- 3:05Speaker 1: court system. Judge Bloom has been a real problem. Juveniles
- 3:08Speaker 1: are not treated with, I mean, anything but kid gloves.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I always like to joke on it. It's like they
- 3:13Speaker 1: give them a glass of juice and a cookie and
- 3:15Speaker 1: send them back on their way. Juveniles turn into adults,
- 3:18Speaker 1: and you might think that that might provide some relief
- 3:20Speaker 1: and that, well, the big boy court would result in
- 3:23Speaker 1: big boy prosecutions and big boy sentences, but that doesn't
- 3:26Speaker 1: happen either, Ken. A little bit frustrating out there. Is
- 3:29Speaker 1: it not for the police officers who have to go
- 3:31Speaker 1: through this?
- 3:32Speaker 2: Well, sure it is. It's a revolving door. And juveniles
- 3:36Speaker 2: that grow up to rob and shoot each other are
- 3:38Speaker 2: going to do the same thing when they're adults. I mean,
- 3:40Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. And once you get
- 3:43Speaker 2: to adult court, right now in Hamilton County, you've got
- 3:46Speaker 2: maybe a 40% chance of there actually being some resemblance
- 3:50Speaker 2: of law and order in a courtroom. But that can
- 3:53Speaker 2: change here tomorrow. People decide that they want to take
- 3:56Speaker 2: Hamilton County back and they want to have a safer county. Well,
- 3:59Speaker 2: they should probably vote for judges that support law and order.
- 4:02Speaker 2: There's plenty of them on the ballot.
- 4:05Speaker 1: There are. That would be Chris McDowell, Leah Dankelacher, Betsy Sunderman,
- 4:09Speaker 1: Katie Cash, Roger Bouchard, Dennis Mahoney, Robert Gehring, Ralph Winkler
- 4:15Speaker 1: for probate court, and yes, Susan Lukin for juvenile court.
- 4:18Speaker 1: That would be a great start right there. Now, we
- 4:20Speaker 1: have a gang problem. Signal 99 suggests we have a
- 4:22Speaker 1: gang problem, but no one ever talks about it, and
- 4:25Speaker 1: the instructions that she said are that the mayor's office,
- 4:28Speaker 1: Cheryl Long, the city manager, do not want anyone to
- 4:31Speaker 1: acknowledge or talk about the gangs that we actually do
- 4:33Speaker 1: have in the city of Cincinnati. And I asked about
- 4:35Speaker 1: Chief Henney, Interim Police Chief Henney. Shouldn't he come out
- 4:38Speaker 1: and let us know about it? Should he not have
- 4:40Speaker 1: come out over the weekend and talked about the street takeover?
- 4:44Speaker 1: Silence seems deafening, and Signal 99 suggests that, well, he's
- 4:47Speaker 1: been instructed not to use the word gang. We can't
- 4:50Speaker 1: say we have gangs. And that just ignores reality and
- 4:54Speaker 1: deprives the citizens of, I think, information we all need
- 4:56Speaker 1: to know about. What's your take on that, Ken Kober?
- 4:59Speaker 2: Well, it's about how he ended up getting fired because
- 5:03Speaker 2: she went out and she started publicly talking about things
- 5:07Speaker 2: that either she was instructed not to or she wasn't
- 5:10Speaker 2: given permission to talk about. So I understand if the
- 5:13Speaker 2: interim chief's not saying something, it's typically because he's been
- 5:17Speaker 2: told by his boss not to. And that does not
- 5:21Speaker 2: surprise me. I've seen it time after time again.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Well, and the boss in this case would either be
- 5:25Speaker 1: mayor after Burwell or the city manager.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Cheryl Long.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Cheryl Long.
- 5:30Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I mean, we've seen emails from Cheryl
- 5:34Speaker 2: Long to T.G. when she was still there saying, you
- 5:37Speaker 2: need to tell me before you talk about X, Y,
- 5:39Speaker 2: or Z. We used to have a gang unit. We
- 5:42Speaker 2: actually had a unit called the gang unit in the
- 5:44Speaker 2: Cincinnati police. Now, understand that those task force, they change names. very,
- 5:51Speaker 2: very frequently, normally every couple of years. Their mission typically
- 5:56Speaker 2: stays the same. And it's, of course, to go find
- 6:00Speaker 2: violent criminals and get them off the streets. Whether it's
- 6:04Speaker 2: gang-related activity, whether it's random violence, but there certainly is
- 6:10Speaker 2: an organized effort of gangs in Cincinnati. regardless if politicians
- 6:14Speaker 2: want to admit it or not.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Well, and just by changing the name, you know, a
- 6:18Speaker 1: rose by any other name would smell as sweet. You know,
- 6:20Speaker 1: we got that old adage. And this just seems to
- 6:24Speaker 1: be some Orwellian exercise. You know, if it looks like it,
- 6:27Speaker 1: it smells like it, it sounds like it, it tastes
- 6:29Speaker 1: like it, it is. You can call it whatever you want.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It's a gang, for God's sake. We all know what
- 6:33Speaker 1: the definition of gang is, so calling it something sort
- 6:35Speaker 1: of more politically correct doesn't change the underlying nature. Our
- 6:38Speaker 1: city's got a crime problem on its hands, driven in
- 6:41Speaker 1: large part by gangs.
- 6:44Speaker 2: No, of course not. I mean, we now have what
- 6:46Speaker 2: used to be the gang units now called CGIC, the
- 6:49Speaker 2: Crime Gun Intelligence Center. I mean, I guess we should
- 6:52Speaker 2: rename that and we'll just say we don't have a
- 6:54Speaker 2: problem with gun violence. Yeah.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Well, you know, food stamps used to be called food
- 6:57Speaker 1: stamps and then they called it SNAP. Welfare didn't used
- 7:00Speaker 1: to be or used to be called welfare. And then
- 7:02Speaker 1: they changed the name of it because I guess it
- 7:03Speaker 1: had a bad ring to it. But it's all the
- 7:05Speaker 1: exact same system with a different name. Nothing's changed. You
- 7:07Speaker 1: haven't fooled anybody.
- 7:09Speaker 2: You know. You're absolutely right. The people that are intelligent
- 7:14Speaker 2: enough to see through this stuff, they see through it
- 7:16Speaker 2: pretty darn easily. When you have people standing on the
- 7:19Speaker 2: street corner, there's drive-by shootings going on. That's not because
- 7:25Speaker 2: they're a Bearcat fan and they got beat by Utah
- 7:28Speaker 2: this weekend. It's because they're fighting over drug trade and
- 7:31Speaker 2: things like that.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Well, and a lot of talk's been made about sanctuary cities,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and I know Vivek Ramaswamy promises that he will end
- 7:39Speaker 1: sanctuary cities in this state should he get elected governor.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Do we have a problem with illegal immigrant criminals in
- 7:47Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati? Are there any figures out there?
- 7:50Speaker 1: Do the police take an inventory about who they pick
- 7:52Speaker 1: up on, whether they're in this country legally or not?
- 7:56Speaker 2: Not completely, because.
- 7:59Speaker 2: These people that are here illegally that are victims of crime,
- 8:02Speaker 2: they don't report it. They just don't. They refuse to
- 8:06Speaker 2: report when they're victimized because they're afraid of being deported.
- 8:11Speaker 2: They're afraid to be discovered that they're here illegally. It's
- 8:15Speaker 2: been a problem forever. But I would argue that we
- 8:20Speaker 2: don't have the problem with illegals and violent crime that
- 8:25Speaker 2: maybe other cities are experiencing, but it certainly is there.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Well, Ann, I think one of the things is it's like,
- 8:31Speaker 1: you know, if you have a drug or alcohol problem,
- 8:33Speaker 1: first step is maybe acknowledging the problem, and then we
- 8:35Speaker 1: can take steps to resolve the conflict and problem. That's
- 8:38Speaker 1: what we need to do. We need to have the
- 8:39Speaker 1: city manager. We need to get Mayor Aftab Perval back
- 8:42Speaker 1: from his Al-Sayed campaign, have him address the public and
- 8:45Speaker 1: talk about what happened over the weekend and be honest
- 8:47Speaker 1: about crime, admit that it exists, and admit that he
- 8:49Speaker 1: will start working with and supporting the Cincinnati police officers
- 8:53Speaker 1: going forward. Hell, the morale's bad enough, Ken Cobra. I
- 8:55Speaker 1: understand that. It's a lot worse because the mayor just
- 8:57Speaker 1: keeps his mouth shut insofar as supporting the police is concerned?
- 9:03Speaker 2: It's pretty simple. You just have to tackle these things
- 9:05Speaker 2: head on and not just bury your head in the sand.
- 9:07Speaker 2: And unfortunately, that's what we see time and time again.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I mean, this weekend event on Jefferson Avenue very quickly
- 9:15Speaker 2: could have turned into 4th and Elm Brawl last year.
- 9:19Speaker 2: I mean, it certainly had all the makings for it.
- 9:21Speaker 2: There were probably 10 times the amount of people fighting.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Thank God no one was seriously hurt. That could have
- 9:28Speaker 2: turned bad very, very quickly.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Without question, this is something the police have to face
- 9:34Speaker 1: all the time, that they are outnumbered. They are outnumbered.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Numbers are down anyway with a contingent of police officers.
- 9:40Speaker 1: And then when you've got a full contingent of police officers,
- 9:42Speaker 1: how can they possibly deal with thousands and thousands of
- 9:45Speaker 1: people at one time? I feel for you, Ken Cobra.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I feel for all the police officers. And my listening
- 9:49Speaker 1: audience has your back as well as all the Cincinnati
- 9:51Speaker 1: police officers and all law enforcement. Who among us can
- 9:54Speaker 1: do that tough job? damn it you guys are the
- 9:56Speaker 1: best keep up the great work and we'll hope for
- 9:59Speaker 1: a change and I hope my listening audience heeds your
- 10:01Speaker 1: warnings and gets in and votes for the judges I
- 10:03Speaker 1: just rattled off get the Republican Party pink sheet if
- 10:05Speaker 1: you have any doubts Ken thanks again for the late
- 10:08Speaker 1: time and Eric coming on the program it's always a
- 10:09Speaker 1: pleasure having.
- 10:10Speaker 2: You on yep thanks Brian to you and your listeners
- 10:13Speaker 2: we appreciate your support and make sure you vote for
- 10:15Speaker 2: law and order
- 10:16Speaker 1: Tomorrow amen brother 646-55-KRC the talk station