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But upper bump Bang Bang or management fantasy hockey
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podcast. Woo woo, I felt a little accent
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there, Jackie. I don't know, I, I felt
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something happened that was totally out of my control and I
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was like, what did I just, what sounds did I just.
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Make it just rolls off the tongue, but not in a comfortable
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way, you know? I was as surprised as you are.
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Speaking wait. Speaking of roll off the tongue,
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how do you feel about Tootsie Rolls?
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Yay or nail? I don't think I've thought about
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Tootsie rolls in I had a decade. I watched Hey, like ranking of
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like a tier based ranking of candy the other day and that
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person had put like Tootsie rolls pretty high because
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they're very unique in terms of like what they're what they're
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doing and they stay in their own lane.
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You know, it's just like not trying to compete with anything
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or just like to see roles and you like us or you don't.
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I kind of appreciate that, I guess.
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Yeah, they're not my favorite, I would say.
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I wonder, I mean, if you were putting this in the same
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category as like Kit Kat or Coffee Crisp or parties?
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What's 8 like? Steer like cats You.
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Know that they don't? Yeah, they are.
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The cats are just to let you know.
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They don't have Smarties in the States or they are different.
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That's that's messed up. That's $8 nine dollar sign right
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there like that. Just yeah, that's worth not
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having. Like Ruffles all dressed.
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That's yeah, that's also a big one.
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I mean, to be fair, the the states have a lot of things that
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we don't have like. OK, who wants your finger
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anyways? You know, like apparently I've
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heard. My friend got this like spicy
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honey thing to put on pizza from Trader Joe's.
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OK, You had honey on pizza, like right.
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Like there's yeah, but there's like this spicy honey thing.
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It's actually life like pizza. Yes.
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It's just insane though. Like the one from Trader Joe's
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is nuts. Like they just have like a few
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things. I like all the fast food places
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like. Yeah, let's not get into fast
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food cause that'll be a whole conversation, but maybe in the
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office we do some pure tier rankings or something.
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That could be some fun. That's a good idea.
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Yeah, we should do that. We have a lot of stuff to say is
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the hockey. We're a pretty big food
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enthusiast, yes. So I just do do need everybody
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to know that steer chocolate is Kit Kat or caramel and steer
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candy is Sour Patch Kids at the number one spot for me.
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That's just. So is the only good answer.
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Yeah, yeah, fair enough. OK, today our Week 23 Hot topics
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Great time to join, whether you're fighting it out in the
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finals right now Week 23, or you're you're battling to try to
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get into the semis. We're still active in the
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Discord especially. Kevin fighting in for that into
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the finals. Fighting yes, that's what I
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meant to say sorry anyways, but it's a hectic time in fantasy
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hockey really down to the wire in many leagues.
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So keep keep at it. You're never out and join the
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discord community interact with us in the community over there.
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So great place to be my full time.
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Job is is answering questions and then discord right now it's
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like it's like night and day everybody's everybody's
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obviously feeling the pressure and the desperation it's like
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teams that have been yeah you know one lost the whole year
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coming down to the finals and gonna lose against a team that
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shouldn't be there type of thing so it's it's rough we feel we
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feel the pressure and you know everything that comes with that
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Josh feels so much that he's actually leaving Montreal to
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drive back to to where he lives near I always forget the exact
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city but thing near Philly I guess near he's best buds with
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Matthew Michkov now so it's. Yeah, that's it.
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That's it. OK, so let's start off with our
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hot topics for this week. Do you wanna?
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Do you wanna list them? Off we got 3 hot topics today
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and honestly, guys were like near the end of the season it's
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like so hard to find things that are gonna have any longevity to
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them, right? So we're going to talk about
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like some specific instances here, but front Dell of Chicago,
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he has been a hot topic in himself because I mean, I picked
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them up in the semis and he started two games.
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He had two points. And then the main thing with him
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though is that like first of all, I heard that in his draft
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class he was like the most athletic and in shape person.
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Like he had the highest ranked VO2 Max.
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Yeah like about dreaming of. The juxtaposition is insane, but
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he's just been like nuts and his playing time is like increased
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significantly. Every game he plays.
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He's playing with Connor Bedard. He's also on line 1.
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Like it really feels like he's kind of like a end of season
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darling here. So if you can make use of him in
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your in your finals, like he's he's a name there, but it's just
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mainly what do we how do we feel about him?
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How do we feel about Chicago and looking forward to the next year
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or two? Like, is he going to be, you
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know, the missing piece for, you know, maybe Bedard's partner in
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crime that we've kind of been searching for the last few
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years? I anticipate that's going to be
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the case, but it's gonna come in waves.
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So like for instance, I'm going to league that's a keeper league
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and one of the teams is kind of like out of the playoffs,
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already has them. I was like, oh, like can I go
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pick them up? So, you know, it's really like
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one of those things that if you're banking on next year, I
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have no idea how it's going to go.
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But I do anticipate that looking how good they were this year
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when Bedard playing, which were they were a fringe playoff team
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while he was healthy and then unfortunately had that injury
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and then, you know, everything, yeah, everything went to.
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A dollar $10 fee. After Exactly, exactly exactly.
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That's our shortened version of this version.
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Anyway, all this to say, we like I only can really focus on this
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year and there's many instances of, you know, good players from,
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you know, European leagues or rookies or whatever it is coming
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in and and shaking things up. I think that Chicago is just
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kind of playing to get the most out of their their talent right
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now. And Frondel is gonna be front
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and centre there. I expect them to be line one
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with Bedard and power play one for.
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The rest of the year, I mean week 24, they don't have the
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exceptional schedule. They only have five games.
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So you kind of would hope for like at least 6, but I still
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think if you're in a really deeply like our, our league of
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record is very deep. Like he was the one of the only
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guys that was available on waivers at the time when I
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picked him up that, you know, had some like line 1P1 exposure.
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So I, I like him for the, for the exposure and his third game
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that he played in the lineup, he played over 20 minutes and he
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played the most minutes out of any forward on the team, which
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is crazy for a guy that just got brought up right.
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So I just think that he has a huge engine and he can play big
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minutes. He's playing minutes with the
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best players on this team. And so there's a lot to look
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forward to. So if you're in a really, really
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deep league, I think he's a name that you can definitely keep an
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eye on. And going into next year, I'm
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like really excited about what he can do.
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I just wonder if he's gonna be like they're gonna put him more
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at centre or playing on the wing because I think 1-2 punch in the
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middle of like Bedard and Nazar is going really well.
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You're one of us 3C or potential, you know, winger
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partner for Bedard. I think that is the most likely
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case and I think next year will be interesting to see where he
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goes in drafts. I think it's going to be a
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winger partner for sure. That's that's my that's my
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guess. I mean it they will change at
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some point, but the majority of of the year and the reason he's
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there, I think is to to have it. I remember there was like, you
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know, they do those like NHL simulations.
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Yeah, kind of like how their career is gonna shake out.
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Apparently. Frondel hide.
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Like aside from Schaefer, by far the most elite trajectory of the
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2025 draft class. So he I mean, according to this
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video game is gonna be sick. But otherwise, yeah, I actually
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I think it could be really good. And the last thing I'll add to
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this is that he came from the Swedish league.
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He didn't all come from playing in, like, you know, the Junior
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Hockey League with Shell or the Cure.
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Anything that means that he's been playing against actual, you
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know, grown men come this year. Yeah.
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And it's one thing to dominate among your age group.
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It's another thing to be able to do well among a group of people
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who are similar in age and everything to the NHL.
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The NHL, the Swedish Hockey League is not like the NHL.
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It's not as strong, but it is still one of the most
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competitive leagues in the world.
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And he had 28 points in 43 games, meaning I think he's
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ready to play at this level and for the duration of the for the
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rest of the season, I do think he's going to do well.
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Yep, I agree. Alright, another another I would
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say surprise that we need to talk about is Dylan Garand of
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the New York Rangers. Now listen, it's only been a few
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games that he's played, but he's honestly looked exceptional on a
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New York Rangers team that is honestly like really bad right
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now. I mean, they're obviously not
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trying to win games the end of the season, but you know, Igor
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is ahead of him and I'm not saying that he's the new starter
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or whatever, but like grandmas look nice and some coaches asked
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for you know what to cook. Like the reporters asked what
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they feel about them and they do you think he deserves like, you
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know, more stars going into this end of the season, right, Like
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just kind of find out what you have like, is he the potential
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backup next season? Like we don't really know like
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quick as injured right now, but next year, like what does it
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look like? And I'm very interested to see
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what kind of happens here. Like I didn't know much about
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them going into this. I just know that he's played two
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games and like the last game that he played against Chicago
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was exceptional. So how do you kind of feel about
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it? I feel we don't really have the
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most knowledge on, you know, his prospect profile and what the
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general expectations are, but I'm excited from what I've seen
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so far. Yeah.
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So the reason I think that this is a hot topic is, is like a few
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a few things external to just go around performance, which, by
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the way, has been fantastic. I mean, he's played only two
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games, but he had a 946 and a 964.
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So that's tremendous. Yeah.
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And the Rangers do have a good schedule over the next two weeks
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of fantasy, AKA 2 1/2 weeks of real hockey.
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I don't anticipate that this is going to be a frontal like
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situation going into next year. I have any interest.
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So I'll just kind of say that. But for the rest of the year, I
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mean why overwork Igor who is their guy and he's paid as the
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guy and even though they were an $8 sign dollar sign poop storm
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this whole year, the Rangers like they they are depending on
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him to be their goalie of the future.
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This episode really Thursday, they have a back-to-back on
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Saturday. Sunday versus the Red Wings and
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the Capitals. Well, obviously we're expecting
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him to get one of those games, but I would not be surprised if
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we see him get, you know, the odd game here that's not a
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back-to-back just because, you know, give it more playing time,
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see what happens. And, you know, you don't need to
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work ego into the ground right now either, right, with how the
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season is going, so. Yeah, no, it's possible that
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like I mean best, best case scenario scenario gets 50% of
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the starts. Otherwise, I'd say he gets like
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on A4 game week. I think he's going to get I
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think he could get too, honestly.
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It's possible. It's possible.
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I was. That's going to shake.
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Out. I mean, I think The thing is in
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week in week 24, they have two games in the first week and then
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the week after they only have two games as well.
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So they have the worst playoff schedule for Week 24, right?
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21 to 23. Was week 20 to 23, was sick like
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they had four games in every one of those weeks.
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So I wonder if he ends up splitting those games, like 4
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games, maybe just two of them. I'd be curious to see.
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But do you feel very comfortable starting in a spot start at this
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point? Like I feel like the sample size
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suggests, yes. Yeah, I mean it, it is 2 games,
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but it's, it's like the spot starts are are difficult to to
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find. I mean, if you listen to the the
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waivers episode that came out on Sunday, you know, the the spot
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starts that were suggested or Fowler, she loves and who.
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So I think there's a world in which, you know, if Goran is
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confirmed for one of the games, he could be in that
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conversation. For like Saturday, Sunday,
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back-to-back. Yeah, there you go.
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There you go. So that's yeah, we'll, we'll
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see. We'll see how it shakes out.
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OK, let's move on. This is a big hot topic.
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Yeah, this one will spend a bit of time on.
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It's going to be fun. Yeah, I'm calling it the Battle
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of the East and the West because we have, like, sincere playoff
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battles, you know, still in the mix right now.
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I mean, we're roughly halfway through Week 23, and teams are
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still trying to fight to make the playoffs.
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So they were recording this slightly before and I mean off
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the off your gut instinct, who do you think out of the East is
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not making the playoffs? 2 teams are not gonna make it
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right now. OK, so so not making the
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playoffs like are we talking like OK, so.
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Teams that Rangers conversation are yeah, yeah.
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Montreal is still technically in the conversation.
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Columbus and Pittsburgh are still technically in the
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conversation. Boston, the Islanders, Ottawa
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and Detroit, so these are two of those teams are not making the
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playoffs. So, so Philly, like we're we're.
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I'm confident saying Philly is not making the playoffs.
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Alright, thank you. Come on.
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No, no, no, I I agree. Just love Mitch comma so much.
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Yeah, that's it. That's it.
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We're all Georges hate towards Michael.
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I I gotta balance it out somehow.
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So, yeah, I think that I think of the teams that are not gonna
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make the playoffs, you're saying that that it's two of them,
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Yeah. Two of them.
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Of those six I listed, two of them are not making the
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playoffs. So which 2 is that gonna be?
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This may be such a brutal take, but I I I think it's going to be
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Ottawa and Pittsburgh. Do you think Pittsburgh not
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making the playoffs? Yeah, that'd be devastating.
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Reason, though, I only because of the injuries.
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Yeah, like it's like they're not keeping Crosby out or walking
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out if they if they have a choice.
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And honestly, I don't really trust their goaltending at this
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stage. And I think that the team
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success really depends on those two players.
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So I. I mean, I hold down the Fort in
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the past when those guys were missing games earlier this
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season. So I don't think it's a complete
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like long shot, but definitely harder.
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Yeah, hey, like, and by the way, I want Pittsburgh to make it.
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I really, really do. This is The Last Dance Part 2,
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as as we alluded to on a previous episode, but
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realistically, Carolina, Buffalo, Tampa Bay are absolute
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locks. So at this point was over 90%
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chance they make the playoffs. Yeah, three of the eight playoff
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teams are are like, you know, a lock and then I think it could
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go the other way. I I think Boston, Boston's just
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been too good too, and so are the and the Islanders.
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I really like their acquisitions actually.
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I think they're a very solid team now with a great goalie.
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So yeah, I think if I had to guess, uh, Pittsburgh,
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Pittsburgh is gonna be at the short end of the stick.
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And who did I say? Pittsburgh?
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Ottawa, Yeah. OK, I think I'm going.
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I'm going the Islanders and I'm going Detroit.
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Really. Yeah, I mean, this is just a gut
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feeling, obviously, that we could be very wrong, but I think
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the Islanders just like they're relying too much on Sorokin and
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I think the rest of the team is kind of slowed down a little
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bit. Like we've seen them still have
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good quality games, but I think they're the team that's kind of
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just like trying to scrape by to make it in Detroit.
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Detroit, I think it's still a great team.
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Like honestly, I'm, I feel bad putting them out there, but I
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think for sure the haves are making it.
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I think for sure Columbus is making it.
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I think I've just been too hot near the end of the season and I
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Ottawa has also been on fire to right.
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So like but out of any of the teams, like if you were like, of
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course this team like choked and miss the playoffs is Ottawa
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right so. That's what that's kind of the
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vibe like. And they have been good.
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Like I said, I'm conflicted to say that I think they're gonna
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be the ones that are gonna miss. But I think Detroit, Detroit
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really feels like, I mean, they all feel like they have a chip
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on their shoulder that they're playing for something.
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But Detroit, like the whole thing with the Eiserman stuff
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and. You didn't enough moves to, you
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know, fight for a playoff battle when the teams around them did
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make moves. And I think this is the, this is
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the area of the season where that's where kind of bites you
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in the $8 sign, dollar sign. Yeah, that's it, That's it.
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So in conclusion, you believe it's going to be Buffalo, Tampa
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and Montreal as the three from the Atlantic.
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So that's gonna and then you think it's going to be Carolina,
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Pittsburgh, Columbus from the Metropolitan and then the two
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wild card, you think it's going to be Boston and Ottawa.
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Yeah, maybe not in that order. And I feel bad about saying
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yeah, yeah, not necessarily in that order, but I think those
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are the teams that will end up making it in.
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Obviously, a lot of this could go gravely wrong.
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Worst case scenarios that happens Mr. Playoffs and I'd be
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devastated but. That I don't think is going to
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happen. Like, I think that they're
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they're really. I really want this week to make
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the playoffs too, like I've been wanting to make of Carlson and
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Rachel, like this whole season so.
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Yeah, I'm like conflicted because I've had, I've had the
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Hagel Cutera V stock this year and it's just been so, so great.
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So I feel like they're kind of like by default my sort of non
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Habs team. That I'm yeah, I was one of the
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favorites of the whole thing, so.
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Yeah, I know. But at the same time, just for
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the story of it all, like if Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh can win,
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that would be like I would love to see.
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Pittsburgh would just be so fun. It would be.
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It would be. So, yeah, I really hope they
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don't miss it. I just like, how can they keep
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weathering the storm? And if they do, I think they're
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gonna be such a force in the playoffs.
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So yeah, what about the West? The West is West.
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Almost just as close to be honest.
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Well, the Central's a lock. Complete, complete lock that
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those top three teams I think are are good.
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One of those top three teams is gonna make sound like a final.
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That's what I. Think I know Edmonton this year?
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You never know. Yeah, No, I don't think it's
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Edmonton. I don't think it's Vegas.
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I don't think it's like that's who the top guys are in the
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Pacific. I think that the Central is just
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so those three teams are so dominant, Colorado, Dallas and
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Minnesota. So I think that's staying the
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way it is. I guess you could list off the
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ones in. Contention, yeah.
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The ones in contention I would say are Edmonton, Vegas, Utah,
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Nashville, Los Angeles Kings and Seattle I think are the only
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teams. And now depending how the games
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go between what like when we recorded this and when, when the
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episode comes out, it'll be like it might be a few games
19:03
different. But I think in general, these
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are teams are still trying to fight for it.
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Now. I think the biggest thing is
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like Vegas, you would have assumed that I've been a lock
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for a while. Edmonton too, but like they have
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not been in good form. So they're they kind of made
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this possible race. Like the teams behind them are
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only like 2 or two to four points behind.
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So kind of feels like the the window is open there.
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But yeah, to me, I don't think actually the playoff team, like
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I think they're still winning games and it's crazy.
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We've been saying it all year, but I think at this point we saw
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them, we saw them sell some pieces.
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So it's kind of just like I, I just don't think that this is a
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team that even though they held on to all the veterans, I just
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don't think it's it's in the cards for them this year.
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I just don't think that's their plan whether it happens or not.
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I think it happens. But I think LA is a team that
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has been on the bubble that is starting to try to figure it
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out. And Seattle is the other team I
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think has just, I think they don't have it in them, but you
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never know. To me, Utah is like one of the
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stronger teams going into the end of the season, even though
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they do have a harder matchups. Yeah.
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So if I had to bet right now, who I don't think is making the
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players, I think it's Seattle. I think Nashville or not making
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the playoffs. Seattle and Nashville are not.
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Yeah, so you think LA? Is I think Ellie and I think LA
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takes Nashville spot and I think Seattle stays out out of it.
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Yeah, I actually agree there. I think that's exactly how it's
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gonna shake out. So we're on the same page for
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the West. To be honest, there's not much
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more to add. I think the reason that I had a,
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I think it's top of the Pacific this year.
20:33
So there's that. But I think that what LA did in
20:38
acquiring an error in acquiring lot and like all the moves that
20:41
they made and they fired Hillary like they were really, really
20:44
trying. And it just feels like feels
20:47
like they're they're too good of an actual team to not make it.
20:50
And even though Kemper had a horrible year, they're still
20:56
that the team in front of them, like if you look at this roster
20:58
like this, looking very, very solid.
21:00
And they should be a playoff team.
21:02
They should. So I think LA is gonna take
21:04
Nashville spot. So in conclusion, in no
21:07
particular order, I'll just kind of like list off the way we see
21:10
this. The East I see as Buffalo, Taba,
21:14
Montreal, Carolina, Columbus, Boston, NY and Detroit does 8
21:22
teams right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:26
Yeah, yeah. So that's exactly it.
21:31
So and then you see it as Buffalo, Tampa, Montreal,
21:35
Carolina, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Boston and Ottawa.
21:42
Ottawa, right? Yeah, Yeah.
21:44
So I essentially the only difference there.
21:46
I have the Islanders, I have the Islanders and the Red Wings over
21:53
the Penguins and the Senators, right?
21:58
Yes, that's the difference, how it's split.
22:01
And then in the in the West, we believe both of us that it's
22:04
going to be Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota, Anaheim, Edmonton,
22:08
Vegas, Utah and LA. Yeah, I think we're on the same
22:12
page for the West, right? So that's fun, yeah.
22:15
And maybe, maybe we're just both be wrong.
22:17
Who knows? Yeah, exactly, exactly.
22:20
Well, see how it shakes out. It's gonna be fun to listen to
22:21
this and see how it goes. Let us know in the Discord or in
22:24
the comments on YouTube or Spotify, Apple, wherever you're
22:27
listening, what you think and how it's gonna shake out and why
22:30
we're right or wrong. Yes.
22:33
All right, let's get into some mail back questions.
22:37
We narrowed it down to 8 questions, all from the Discord.
22:40
So if you want to ask a question, you wanna hear it on
22:42
the podcast, we always make a post in the Discord a few days
22:46
before we record. So that's the place to be if you
22:49
want to ask your question. And I guess let's go get right
22:53
into it. Some of these will be really
22:55
fun. Brian from the Discord asked, do
22:58
you guys find larger category leagues like 12 to 14 people
23:01
harder than 10 men cast leagues? He says he personally thinks
23:05
that 10 men's leagues should be hard because most of the teams
23:09
in the league are bound to have like great teams.
23:11
Since it's quote UN quote more shallower where you know, 12
23:15
team leagues, it's harder to pick because you know, the
23:18
players are more ambiguous on like who's going to be good and
23:20
who's a drop and whatnot. Yeah.
23:22
So I think that there's two components of that question and
23:25
it's a really good one. If you're in a 10 man league,
23:27
each team is pretty solid. So right, right there.
23:30
I think the likelihood of people dropping off and not paying
23:33
attention or whatever is going to be less likely because I
23:37
think it's gonna be like the Atlantic Division this year,
23:39
super tight. And you have no idea like up
23:43
until the very end as to who's going to make it because you
23:47
could already have like, like each team is inherently going to
23:50
be better than a 14 team league. And then the second component
23:54
has to do with the the amount of players on your waivers, right,
24:01
Like in our waivers show that we do every week we go under 40% of
24:04
them to kind of own to kind of cater to those leagues.
24:06
But in many 10 man leagues, I believe that you can have like
24:11
50% and under solid formidable players to choose from.
24:17
So I think that that it's harder to rationalize picking up a guy
24:21
who's lower percentage owned in a league like that.
24:25
So in a way it makes it harder, you know what I'm saying?
24:27
So I would say there's a world in which I can agree that a 10
24:30
man league is harder. One, because it's gonna stay
24:32
competitive for longer, and two, because your waivers are more
24:35
plentiful and it means that finding the diamond in the rough
24:41
is not as consequential because there's other guys that you have
24:45
that you could pick. I mean, for that reason, I feel
24:48
like I think for sure 100% twelve and 14 men's leagues are
24:51
harder because with elsewhere without deep, they are your
24:56
decisions have more consequences and the shallower your league
24:59
is, I think the more the luck factor is high because, you
25:03
know, picking between, you know, the 50th best player and the
25:07
51st best player is like way less consequential than picking
25:11
between like the 120th best player and like the 121st best
25:14
player. Like the the difference is going
25:16
to be more grave with the deeper it is.
25:19
And I think your rewards managers that are better at
25:22
planning for the future and evaluating talent or what's good
25:26
on your team, Whereas like is it, do I feel like really
25:30
rewarded if I picked like Mark Scheifele over Dylan Larkin type
25:33
of thing? Like both are excellent players
25:36
On a scale of 1 to 100, like maybe 1 was a 95 year old was
25:39
like a 92. Like, yeah, you did the right
25:41
decision, but it doesn't feel like rewarding because both were
25:44
just like such good options, right?
25:45
If there's no wrong answer. So that's kind of how I see it.
25:48
I just feel because the teams are so stacked, it reduces the
25:53
competitiveness and it increases the luck factor.
25:55
Obviously all these other components come into play where
25:57
like, you know, planning for schedule off nights and and all
26:00
that. But in terms of like building a
26:04
good squad and like finding those diamonds in the rough on
26:07
waivers and like, I think that's the rewarding.
26:09
That's how you can tell, like when you're a good fantasy
26:12
manager and it makes the league more competitive in that way,
26:14
like the best teams, you'll know where the best teams.
26:16
Are so I think that OK, so we're kind of saying the same thing
26:21
but with a different conclusion. So you're saying that because
26:24
you it's separate, it's harder in a way to find the diamonds in
26:29
the rough to build the team, especially like through, you
26:31
know, like kind of scouring the waiver wire for and seeing the
26:35
potential. Like that's harder.
26:37
But I think that it's easier in a way because you can dedicate
26:41
at that time listening to bank management fantasy hockey
26:44
podcast and you know, looking at your waivers and by doing so,
26:49
you will be rewarded, whereas you could.
26:51
That's what I'm saying this is the difference is that you could
26:54
spend that time in a 10 man league and still may not be
26:56
rewarded. That's why I think it's harder.
26:59
It's harder to win because the luck factor is higher, so I
27:01
think the. Competitiveness is lower, that's
27:04
what I'm saying. You know what I mean?
27:05
But you wanted more competitiveness to be high.
27:07
You want look to be low because then it rewards like it means
27:09
like your actions actually have you know the consequences like
27:13
your reward for making good actions, not just like reward
27:16
for just like playing the league and having it go either way type
27:18
of thing you. Know by and by the way I do
27:20
prefer like 12 to 14 man yeah man teams you know what I mean
27:23
but the reason that me you and Josh are always very competitive
27:26
in our leagues is because we spend that time to like go above
27:30
and beyond and by doing so we we gain a competitive advantage
27:36
whereas in the 10 man league by by doing that that's why I
27:39
concluded it was quote harder is because it doesn't necessarily
27:42
reward you no, you know what I mean so it's fun it's a it's a
27:46
fun question with a lot of philosophy that could go into it
27:49
actually. Alright next question.
27:53
Both show me Peugeot and also Joshua Furon kind of like echoed
27:57
a similar sentiment on is, is hoarding any specific position
28:03
to try to incite trades a valuable strategy?
28:07
One of them they playing the where they only start 1 goalie
28:10
and some guy was like hoarding like 7 or 8 goalies because he
28:13
was just using them as trade to try to get people to trade with
28:15
them. And somebody else is like, you
28:17
know, they have, you know, 4 defensemen spots and people are
28:20
like drafting only the high level defensemen to start their
28:22
draft so they can try to trade them away for like, you know,
28:26
yeah. How do you think it's a viable
28:28
strategy? How do you feel about that?
28:30
So OK, fantasy hockey is a binary outcome when it's all
28:36
said and done. It doesn't mean you can't have
28:38
fun if you don't win, but at the end of the day, you either win
28:41
or you lose. So what happens is that this guy
28:46
hoarding 7 or 8 goalies is not going to win his weeks because
28:50
he's in a position where he's trying to like trade these guys
28:56
in order to get better at other positions.
28:57
This has happened in our league, we've seen this.
28:59
And then what happens is like they ask for those goalies is
29:03
ridiculous. But realistically, you know that
29:06
this guy hoarding the goalies is probably at the bottom of your
29:08
league. No, he's good.
29:10
Exactly. Has no leverage and he's in
29:12
desperation mode. So I don't think that this is a
29:15
good strategy at all. I would never do it.
29:18
I like to try to build a balanced team and sort of see
29:20
how it goes. Maybe there's a category I
29:22
sacrifice or whatever, but usually I just try to build my
29:25
team to be competitive in every single way and then kind of work
29:29
from there and see how it goes on.
29:30
If you just decided to do that, frankly, I mean you, you as the
29:35
non goalie hoarder are never in bad enough of a position that
29:39
you're going to need to give up what he's requesting.
29:42
He's not gonna get it in return. So right away that guy is out of
29:46
it. And that means that that's just
29:47
one less manager to compete with.
29:49
Echoed a similar sentiment in the discord when I answered one
29:52
of their questions. But it's basically like the
29:54
people that try to hoard positions to trade them never
29:56
end up succeeding and it's to their own detriment.
29:58
Maybe they're just trying to, you know, some people just want
30:00
to watch the world burn type of thing.
30:02
You know, like they'll they'll hold all these goalies to try to
30:05
like make everybody else's lives worse, but they'll just sit in
30:08
last place and just enjoy it. I guess.
30:10
I have no idea. But that strategy never works
30:12
out because, you know, you're just ruining the supply and
30:15
demand balance and people, you're assuming people will be
30:17
willing to pay because they're desperate, but they're just like
30:20
the the value ends up being so off off balance that it just
30:24
never makes sense to make those trades.
30:25
And they know that if you want to succeed, you have to drop
30:27
these guys. It makes no sense, right?
30:29
So I'd rather just wait for you to drop the guys and pick them
30:31
up instead of giving up value to try to, you know, get them off
30:33
your roster. Right.
30:34
So it's like, OK, then the other guys, like, well, out of spite,
30:37
I'm just gonna hold them. But like, OK, I'll just like,
30:40
stream goalies on back to backs or whatever.
30:42
And you sit there and last place hoarding all these guys you
30:45
can't fit in your lineup. So yeah, it never works out.
30:48
You never, never be that guy. And I never try to indulge in
30:50
that guy either. Right?
30:51
Like, we see it in fantasy football, too.
30:52
Some people do the same thing with quarterbacks.
30:54
You're only starting one day or like four or five quarterbacks.
30:56
Like, Oh yeah, people are gonna try to get good quarterbacks
30:58
from you. I'll just stream the position
31:00
and make do, right? So same thing for hockey.
31:03
But I guess I'm the only thing I'll add is that you can do that
31:06
with a category as opposed to with a position that that can
31:10
work. You could be a dominant faceoff
31:12
wins team and like go into the year winning every league,
31:15
everything basically, sorry, winning every week.
31:20
And then what happens is that then you can kind of trade
31:22
accordingly. And you know, you trade away one
31:24
of your top faceoff wins teams to a team that needs it to be
31:28
competitive also, but still maintain that category.
31:30
That's a little bit different. Would you agree?
31:33
Yeah, it is different. I still obviously like that,
31:36
just requires more context throughout the season.
31:38
But nonetheless, like when you're trying to hold a position
31:41
to try to take it away from others, that just never works.
31:43
Yeah, I know. Yeah, absolutely.
31:46
All right, Jordan on discord asked if y'all had to build an
31:50
all time starting lineup for Stanley Cup playoff run, who
31:53
would it be? Said y'all can put position
31:55
restrictions on this if you want to make it harder than it
31:57
already is. Like skill, physicality, clutch,
31:59
defensive ability, all factors in, not just most skills.
32:05
So how about like we're not gonna make a whole starting
32:09
lineup, but how about we just do or I guess starting starting
32:12
lineup. So like 3 forwards, 2
32:13
defensemen, 1 goalie and we can do it together pulling a Stanley
32:18
Cup playoff run like all time. Maybe we just do recent years.
32:21
So we're not like going all the way.
32:23
Like I, I think Gretzky, I think you know, yeah, yeah, just like
32:26
the last like 10 years ish. Yeah, very, very general.
32:31
OK, well, well, OK, classic Homer answer.
32:34
But that 2021 playoffs like what Carrie Price was able to do to
32:37
like single handedly win, you know, three of the four series
32:40
was nuts. So 21 Terry Price in the lineup.
32:42
I mean, to me it was him or Vasilevsky just because of the
32:45
dominant run we've seen in the playoffs from him.
32:47
Yeah, exactly. McDavid, any given year, I think
32:52
he has to be there. Even without the Cup, like you
32:55
just feel like you gotta put him there, like just what he's done
32:57
in the last like two or three years is enough to just have me
33:01
be like, I need him on my team when it's clutch time.
33:04
Yeah, so so they're they're hanging out over there that
33:08
that's pretty good. I mean, I guess like this is a
33:11
deep cut, like it can't count, but like Alec Martinez scoring
33:14
that really clutch goal over LA and that's not counting.
33:18
That doesn't count. OK, that's fair.
33:20
OK, so we got those too, right? You gotta.
33:24
You have to. You have to put there.
33:27
You definitely pooch left wing over.
33:30
But I will say Cooch, Cooch when they won the Stanley Cup, that's
33:33
that's like a big kind of a big caveat.
33:35
Sam Bennett from last year, No, he's gone.
33:39
Are you kidding? You're not over me, David.
33:42
No, but it's it's 3. Forwards, OK.
33:45
I mean, I'm trying to make a line out here, you know?
33:47
Sam Bennett, like had fifteen goals in 23 games in the
33:51
playoffs last year. That was in, I don't know if you
33:53
remember how crazy was absolutely automatic.
33:57
He was completely, completely automatic.
34:00
I have to put him there. I'm sorry, I feel.
34:02
Some better than top three. OK, listen.
34:04
I know that sounds nuts, but like it doesn't like honestly,
34:08
OK, I don't wanna overload it with like the obvious McKinnon
34:12
McDavid dry side. I feel like that's just like,
34:14
you know what I mean? But I so like, so I'm gonna put
34:18
I'm gonna put Bennett there. I feel like that's like.
34:20
For the sake of not spending one hour on this topic, I'll agree
34:22
with you, but let's go defenseman.
34:25
Yeah, defenseman. That's a good one.
34:29
Rasmus Dahlin, this coming year, I feel like he's just ready to
34:35
just to just go hard. Would you say like just for like
34:39
the tenure of light production, would you put Victor had been
34:42
there even though this year is like the reverse of that?
34:46
I, I have trouble doing that, to be honest, really.
34:49
I, I have trouble putting like, yeah, I just, I feel like, I
34:53
mean, I guess like, it does make sense, but I don't know.
34:56
Eric Carlson's been huge in the playoffs for, in the past two
35:00
times he was in the playoffs. I mean, we're dealing with 10
35:03
years ago, the centres. He got 18 points in 19 games
35:06
when they made their Stanley Cup run.
35:08
And then with San Jose, when they made theirs, it was 16
35:11
points in 19 games. So, I mean, they're always very
35:15
productive. And maybe this isn't the he
35:18
carries Pittsburgh to another Stanley Cup final.
35:20
Who knows? Oh, we gotta put Crosby.
35:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I got over 7 minutes.
35:28
It's close, but Are you sure? I mean, yeah, Crosby's Crosby,
35:34
but. OK, fun longer gold than what's
35:38
that invented did last year or whatever and so. 20/17/2018 he
35:41
got 21 points and 12 games. Yeah, OK, Yeah, OK.
35:45
So Crosby's fine. I wanna put picture head man.
35:48
I feel like Victor Hedman is just like even if he's not like
35:50
the best power play quarterback, let's say, for example, has on
35:54
the ice in terms of like being a good defenseman as well in the
35:57
leadership. I know this year is like
35:59
completely falling off the rails, but like, we're talking
36:01
previous, Yeah. And maybe Eric Carlson to your
36:06
point, but I mean, we're we're missing so many names.
36:09
We're not gonna spend so much time on this.
36:10
But I think that's a good, good lineup.
36:13
Yeah, I I think what what is the final like Sam Bennett is a
36:17
healthy. Scratch, yes, I bet it will be
36:19
the healthy scratch and Mckinnon's in also a healthy
36:22
scratch. But for me it's like Crosby,
36:25
McDavid, Kucherov, let's say Eric Carlson and Victor Hammer
36:29
with Kerry Price. 1120 twenty one.
36:32
Sorry, not 2001. Or or or or all the players we
36:37
mentioned. Just none of them.
36:39
And just Patrick Maroon. It worked out.
36:42
The helicopter pad Maroon was unstoppable for that season over
36:48
carrier price. Yeah, Pat Maroon and Bennington,
36:50
just them too, could take on the entire.
36:52
World Alright, well we unfortunately have to move on to
36:56
the next question, but Joshua Furon also asked how different
37:02
are the teams you drafted from the teams you have now?
37:05
Like did 80% of your roster survive?
37:06
Did like the bottom few picks turned into streamers that
37:10
trades massively shake up the team?
37:11
Like he said, going into the playoffs he had 10 of 16 of his
37:14
players in one league and eight of 16 of the players in the
37:16
other. So almost half of his players
37:18
swapped between like the draft and like the end of the season.
37:21
OK, let me like, let me actually count.
37:24
I'm curious because I feel like the top team in our league.
37:28
I was about to say I was like if you if your team is not at least
37:31
50% different then it means you're not dedicating enough
37:33
time to fantasy yet. The top team in our league made
37:35
what? Like let me debate one.
37:38
Through trade in the beginning of the season that they might
37:41
still end up winning the league, who knows?
37:44
Who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the guy who ended.
37:47
Up in first place. Yeah, the guy who ended up in
37:49
first place barely made any moves and he's done.
37:51
He made one move tremendously well, and I think he regrets it
37:55
kind of. I don't know, I got this.
37:59
All this is there they go like I think you're your team if you're
38:02
a dedicated manager, should be about like 50% different.
38:05
Who is still on my team. I have, yeah, not a lot.
38:12
It's definitely less than we have less.
38:14
Than 20% we have 20 lineup spots plus some IRS.
38:19
Let me count how many people that were not on my team when I
38:22
drafted. Yeah, yeah.
38:25
I have seven of the 20 players. That's that's nothing.
38:29
That's like. Ten of my players were not on my
38:32
roster when I drafted. That's the trades or pickups,
38:35
yeah. I have 35% of my squad from the
38:39
beginning and one of them is Jason Zucker, who I dropped and
38:42
then picked up again. Do you?
38:43
Still on the team when you drafted so that doesn't count.
38:46
What do you mean? Like you drafted him, right?
38:48
I did drop it, yeah. And then I dropped them and then
38:50
I picked them up. So yeah, seven of the 20.
38:52
Players yeah, that's almost half as well.
38:54
Like it's and that that's a good thing, right?
38:56
Like that means you're making it far into the playoffs.
38:58
Like if you if you look at the standings in your leagues, I've
39:01
done this analysis before, but there's a strong correlation
39:04
between the amount of moves you make and the success you have.
39:07
And like if you look at the playoff teams and you look at
39:08
the non playoff teams, the playoff teams tend to have like
39:12
significantly more, you know, waiver moves throughout the
39:14
season than the bottom half. And it's just because the more
39:17
active you are, the more you're keeping up with trends, the more
39:19
you're making those tough decisions.
39:20
This guy is out of form because inform that we make the swap and
39:23
that's why you build a better better fantasy teams.
39:26
Absolutely. Yeah, next question Camino
39:30
asked. This was directed to Josh.
39:32
So Josh, if you will please answer this question.
39:35
He alludes to his spreadsheet a lot.
39:37
How do you incorporate the anticipated category stats
39:39
within your Excel? Is it automated or manual update
39:41
or do you take the last season average or just plug it in for
39:43
the whole year? He says he wants to up mine from
39:46
this year and that's the next step.
39:48
So I have, I have my own model as well.
39:51
I refer to it not as often as Josh does to his, but I know
39:56
Josh pulls season average stats in Sicily.
40:00
So he's just always looking at that.
40:02
I have more of a manual approach.
40:03
I, I try to like mimic the stats of the players that are, you
40:06
know, informed. So like if the last 14 days is
40:10
more representative of a players like, you know, anticipated
40:13
value for my week no matchup, then I'll use that as opposed to
40:16
like the season stats because, you know, deployments change and
40:18
something not relevant anymore. So I usually have a manual
40:21
approach of like last 14 days, last 30 days, season average and
40:25
I consistently update that and then, you know, I do the
40:28
averages. Times, you know, the amount of
40:30
games to play in the week and it gives me like a rough estimate
40:31
of like what I should expect from my team going into this
40:34
following mix matchup. And I plan accordingly.
40:37
And also I will say that early in the season, I tend to use
40:44
previous season data to populate my model at the start of like
40:48
the first like 2-3 weeks, let's say, until things start
40:51
averaging out and you have a good enough sample size of like
40:53
what this new season looks like. So that's what I would do.
40:57
Maybe in the offseason we make a little tool on like, you know,
41:02
put our models and like maybe we make it a Patreon tier or
41:04
something like an offer it. If you guys want to use our
41:07
models and like you know, up your fantasy level, that can be
41:11
something that we offer if people are really interested.
41:14
Yeah, Yeah, I, I guess the like the only thing I'll add to that
41:18
is that the, the situational circumstances are huge in in
41:21
this factor, right. I mean, after I picked up Chikov
41:26
Travon, Columbus was totally different.
41:27
Than General exactly, yeah. And that that's like also like
41:30
an intra team deployment situation that it could really
41:34
change. Some guy goes from line 4 power
41:36
play 2 to line one power play one with like it really does
41:41
change. So even if you do use the models
41:43
like, don't follow them religiously.
41:47
Do this as a last question, uh, guy 81 in the discord asked are
41:52
you guys making or joining any fantasy pools for the playoffs?
41:56
If so, what format are you playing in?
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He created a format with his friends where he chooses four
42:00
teams in the east and the West. And then we pick a player from
42:02
each team we pick and after it's like 1 points I think he said.
42:07
And after it's one point, a win, 2 points, a goal, one point and
42:11
assist. And then he just said he's
42:13
curious to hear what we do. We do, we do one pool every
42:16
year. Jake usually runs.
42:18
It's really a good system. So all the back stories that I
42:21
wanted to implement something, and this is during COVID where
42:24
it's like, you know, the hockey season abruptly ended and then
42:28
they bring it back for the bubble.
42:29
And it was the whole thing. And like, I was like, hey, we
42:31
gotta do something. Because, you know, the fantasy
42:34
season can't just end like that. And I know we always want more
42:37
hockey, more fantasy. Hockey.
42:39
So what happened was as I suggested we do something where
42:42
it was like you actually pick a draft of players and it's sort
42:46
of the same thing as like a snake draft as you would do
42:49
where you pick players from teams, obviously only the
42:51
playoff teams. And then as the rounds go on,
42:54
you know you'd get eliminated. So these success was really
42:57
depending on also the team success.
42:59
But then I someone suggested what we do instead is like kind
43:03
of a blind draft of sorts, not even dropped, just a selection
43:07
where let's say just for this example, I could pick my team,
43:10
could have McKinnon, McDavid, etc.
43:12
And Kevin could have his same players.
43:15
You have 10 forwards, 4 defensemen and two goalies.
43:17
And then by the time the playoffs start, everyone's team
43:20
is revealed and you see how it's going.
43:21
Now, the issue I thought was, well, everyone's gonna have a
43:25
similar team, They're just gonna pick the top players.
43:27
But we've had years and years of this where there's been like 20
43:32
ish teams in the league, you know, ranging between let's say
43:35
15 and 25. And it's never been the one team
43:40
exactly replicated the next. So it was actually really cool.
43:43
I mean, I guess like if you're dealing with like 100 teams or
43:46
whatever, like, yeah, maybe. There's going to be some
43:48
overlap. Yeah, but there's always
43:51
overlap, like everyone always has to McDavid and Dryside all.
43:53
But it's really the way that you kind of separated is last year
43:59
I'm pretty sure the winner was the only one who had Sam Bennett
44:01
on his team as an example. So it's really cool because it's
44:05
contingent on the team success and also the players success.
44:10
Like you don't want to go too many teams because if you go,
44:13
you know, just the best player from every team, then someone
44:15
who has, let's say last year Florida who went deeper than
44:20
Tampa Bay, if you just picked Kucherov and Barkov, it wouldn't
44:25
have done as well as picking, let's say Barkov and Bennett.
44:27
So it's a really cool mix. That's what we do.
44:29
And then there's also just the brackets that you can get on.
44:32
Hill Yep, I love making a bracket.
44:34
We will 100% run a banger management back bracket bracket
44:38
challenge. That'll be really fun.
44:40
Yeah, maybe we give a prize to the winner or something like a
44:43
free entry into the banger management league next year or
44:46
something like that. But I, I think that the system
44:49
that we have is really fun because it's different from like
44:51
the regular fantasy we play through the whole season.
44:53
So like Jackie said, you're basically just picking guys and
44:56
you want to want to like, you don't want to spread yourself
44:57
too thin. Like if you just pick the best
44:58
players on every team, maybe you'll have a really good round
45:01
one. But then after that, as people
45:02
start getting eliminated, you're really diluting the amount of
45:04
points you're going to be able to get later in the later in the
45:07
playoffs. So we kind of wanted like and
45:09
told it into like maybe three to five teams on the teams you
45:11
think will make it the furthest and pick the best players on
45:13
those teams. And then listen, not everybody
45:15
thinks the same teams are gonna make it all the way in, right?
45:18
And maybe you one team has Sam Bennett and somebody else has
45:23
over Hague like last we've seen in recent years type of thing,
45:25
right. And the difference between one
45:27
of those is maybe the difference maker on who makes it further
45:29
right. So it's very.
45:30
Fun. And I've also seen where people
45:32
try to pick like one team from the East, one team from the West
45:35
and load up 5050 on those teams and.
45:37
Then just hope they both teams make it like a final.
45:40
And like, let's say it's like you pick Carolina and Colorado,
45:43
but you don't pick McDavid. McDavid goes to the semis, loses
45:46
the. Colorado goes to the finals.
45:47
Like 3 Series of. McDavid is probably gonna do
45:51
like 2 series of. David could be better than the
45:55
seventh player. You're picking on the team that
45:57
makes the finals, you know? Yeah, like I am very confident
46:00
that if McDavid goes 3 Series in the playoffs, he's gonna
46:03
outscore Chaudry in four. Yeah, you know what I mean?
46:06
So it's like people really have to kind of there's like a whole
46:09
system and I don't haven't found the right answer yet.
46:11
Yeah, you know, I've. Never made it.
46:13
Made it. Yeah, there.
46:15
People have used AI to try to come up with their teams and
46:18
they they don't win, so AI has not.
46:19
Outsmart ever. I would never let a I pick my
46:22
fantasy team that's. For sure.
46:23
Exactly. So like AI is not like, you
46:26
know, more sophisticated than the human approach to this.
46:30
So all this to say, yeah, it's really fun.
46:33
We'll see what we end up doing. But the bracket challenge that
46:36
I'm really excited about because I feel like I do not do well at
46:41
that. This is not my Forte, but it's
46:44
always fun. It's always fun to see why.
46:48
And Josh always makes his bracket.
46:50
Every year he just does one bracket.
46:51
He puts the Habs as the Stanley Cup champion, so.
46:53
Yeah. One one year he'll be right, and
46:57
that year it'll be pretty fun. That's it, that's it.
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47:35
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47:38
seatbelts. So we're on for the ride.
47:39
And hopefully we all taken to the promised land.
47:42
Yeah, good luck to everyone. Do you want to do the outro
47:46
Jingle today? Of course I do.
47:47
I'm very confident. All right, not now.
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