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MINI SCROLL: Sabrina Carpenter's 25th birthday dress Depop drama, Taylor Swift's 'Female Rage' + Sophie Turner speaks on Joe Jonas divorce · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone. Welcome to Mini Scroll, the
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  daily Internet culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories
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  from social media, the creator economy and the digital space.
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  Every Monday through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  I have no updates for you guys today because Fashion Week is
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  done. Everything's a little bit more
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  chill now and I'm just getting back to regular schedule, so
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  let's just get right in to the stories for today.
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  So the first story is that Sabrina Carpenter's 25th
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  birthday dress has sparked a discussion about the ethics of
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  reselling fashion. So last weekend, Sabrina
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  Carpenter, she turned 25 and she wore this short yellow slip
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  dress for her 25th birthday. Her stylist, Jared Ellner said
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  that the dress was inspired by Kate Hudson's dress in To win a
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  Guy in 10 Days and that it was actually purchased on D Pop.
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  So after she posted the photos from her birthday, TikTok user
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  Jules Berg made a video explaining that it was actually
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  her D Pop shop that Sabrina Stylist purchased from.
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  In the video, she explains that she got a message on D Pop
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  asking if she could overnight the dress to New York City.
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  She said she wasn't in town, so she couldn't.
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  This was last week, and in the message it said it needed to get
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  there by Saturday. Then the buyer said that they
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  were a stylist for Sabrina Carpenter.
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  So Jules got her sister to ship it out, obviously, as you would.
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  Jules said that she cropped the dress herself before selling it.
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  So she kind of considers that she likes styled Sabrina
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  Carpenter, which I thought was really cute.
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  And she of course was like, I don't know if Sabrina was
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  actually going to wear it. Her birthday came and went.
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  I didn't see it, so I figured, OK, she didn't wear it.
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  And then of course she posted Instagram photos in it and she
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  freaked out. So Jules's video went viral and
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  obviously this drove a lot of traffic to her Depop and what
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  users found on Jules Depop were many fast fashion items marked
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  up by up to 2000%. So, for example, she was selling
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  a pair of Forever 21 shorts for $280, calling them rare and
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  vintage. Users found the shorts reselling
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  elsewhere for no more than $15. Also Forever 21.
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  I was obsessed with Forever 21. Everything was like $10.00, So
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  $280 is wild. So then another TikTok user
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  named K Money. She found Jules's Burner D Pop
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  account that Jules uses to buy the clothing, and then she sells
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  it on her official account. So she found this to compare how
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  much Jules is paying for items versus how much she's reselling
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  them. So she found Hollister shorts
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  that Jules had purchased a few weeks ago off her Burner
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  account. She paid $35 for them, and then
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  on her main Depop account she was reselling them for $90.00.
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  So all of this has brought about many mixed reactions.
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  On one side of the Internet, there's people saying, like, get
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  your bag, that's what thrift flipping is.
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  And kind of, you know, criticizing the users who are
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  like digging into Jules's Depop history and what's going on
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  there. Because that is just a common
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  thing that happens on Depop, like Depop sellers.
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  This is how they function. It's not unique to Jules and it
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  kind of feels a bit like a pylon just because of the Sabrina
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  Carpenter thing. And especially when you consider
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  that for serious Depop sellers, curation is a huge part of why
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  people purchase from them. Like you follow a specific Depop
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  seller because you think their style and the stuff that they
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  are purchasing and selling is really cool.
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  So it kind of takes a few steps out of thrifting yourself.
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  If you're like going to a store or you're sifting through Depop
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  yourself. It takes those steps away from
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  you if you follow a few key accounts that you know have a
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  similar style to what you're trying to buy.
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  And then the other side of the Internet is noting how fast
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  fashion has ruined the second hand market.
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  So Alyssa Hardy wrote for Teen Vogue quote, there's more to
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  this than just overpaying and predatory marketing.
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  It's the sheer volume of fast fashion that you would have to
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  wade through when shopping secondhand these days.
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  Walk into any consignment store or scroll through Depop, thread
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  up and many other secondhand platforms for two minutes and
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  you're bound to come across dozens of items from brands like
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  Forever 21, Sheehan and Zara. Selling those pieces and keeping
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  them in the cycle is better than, say, disposing of them or
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  sending them off to global secondhand markets.
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  But the issue is that the brands have overproduced to the point
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  that we are losing the best parts of smaller scale
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  secondhand shopping. And that's so true.
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  You know, even when, I mean, I keep talking about myself like
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  I'm elderly, but I feel like so I the, the culture in general,
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  like just in the world has changed so much because of
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  platforms like TikTok and just like the rise of social media in
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  the last like 10 years. When I think about like
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  thrifting, when that was really popular, when I was in my late
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  teens and early 20s and all of us were like thrifting a lot,
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  you were not seeing Forever 21 at thrift stores or any type of
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  fast fashion. That's not what you found at
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  thrift stores. It was usually higher quality
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  items that were going to last. But now there's this like
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  ethical dilemma where it's like for resellers, for example, like
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  thrift flippers on Depop, if they're buying something at a
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  very, you know, affordable rate and they're reselling it, but
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  the quality of clothing or item that they're reselling is just
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  not there and you know it. It's like a Forever 21 quality
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  which is not going to last very long and somebody's paying
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  $90.00 for it is that predatory. And as this Teen Vogue article
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  notes, there is a lot of onus that needs to be placed on these
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  brands for their overproduction. So I don't know, I thought that
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  this was just really interesting.
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  It's a pretty online story, but it's obviously about a pretty
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  mainstream celebrity and it brings about a very interesting
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  discussion that's happening in fashion right now.
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  All right, the next story that I have for you guys is that Taylor
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  Swift is trying to trademark Female Rage the musical.
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  So it was recently discovered that Taylor Swift filed a
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  trademark in the US for Female Rage the Musical.
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  The Female Rage the musical trademark has been filed with
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  the intention of seeking the rights to produce musical sound
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  recordings, jewelry, clothing, live performances, as well as
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  additional merchandise. Taylor recently used the term to
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  describe the Tortured Poets Department segment of the era's
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  tour, writing on Twitter on May 13th.
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  Quote This post is dedicated to the new Tortured Poets section
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  of the era's tour, AKA Female Rage, the Musical and everyone
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  who made these memories so magical.
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  Though a full on musical with Tortured Poets department would
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  be sick. I'm actually like a massive fan
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  of the album. I I liked it when it first came
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  out and now I'm like obsessed. I can't stop listening to it.
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  And you guys know I don't like slow songs normally.
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  There's just something like, I know people do not like the
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  Taylor Swift or they're not that they don't like but they're
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  tired of or saying that like there needs to be a refresh with
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  like the Taylor Swift Jack Antonoff collaboration.
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  But there is actual crack in those songs when they
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  collaborate on a song like that is my perfect song.
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  I can't explain it something, it just does something to me, like
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  it scratches my brain in like the perfect way.
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  So I'm obsessed and I would love a musical with Torture Poets
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  department, but it's more likely that she wants to trademark the
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  name for New Era's Tour Merge and then other Swifties actually
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  think it could be related to a New Era's Tour film that will
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  feature this segment. But again, who knows?
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  OK, so also Speaking of Taylor Swift, I considered if I wanted
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  to discuss that commencement speech from the Chiefs player
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  who I won't even dignify with a name, but I decided against it
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  because he's a loser and I don't want to give him any more
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  airtime. So just know me ignoring it was
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  intentional and this is me ignoring it even though I just
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  mentioned it. OK And the last ray that I have
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  for you guys is Sophie Turner has opened up about her split
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  from Joe Jonas in a new interview.
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  This is like a celebrity, like mainstream celebrity heavy
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  episode. So last year Sophie Turner and
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  Joe Jonas split after four years of marriage and two children.
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  Now, sitting down with British Vogue, Sophie has spoken out
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  about that experience. I have a few different poll
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  quotes that she said, but she basically spoke about what it
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  was like to be mom shamed. She spoke about what it was like
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  to be married to Joe Jonas and how that made her feel.
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  And she spoke about kind of how difficult this split was.
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  And she also talked about, which I don't have a quote for, but
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  she also talked about Taylor Swift and how Taylor really
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  helped her and her children during that time and how she
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  just has like nothing but love for her, which was really sweet.
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  So she said quote, I mean, those were the worst few days of my
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  life, she said about the early days of the split.
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  I remember I was on set. I was contracted to be on set
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  for another two weeks. So I couldn't leave.
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  My kids were in the States and I couldn't get to them because I
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  had to finish Joan. And all these articles started
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  coming out. So during those early days,
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  Sophie was mom shamed a lot by the public.
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  There were paparazzi photos all the time of Joe with the kids
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  and Sophie without them or like going out.
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  And obviously, as she explained prior, she still had a few weeks
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  left of her contract so she couldn't get to her children.
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  When the news broke, she said, quote, it hurt because I really
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  do completely torture myself over every move I make as a
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  mother. Mom, guilt is so real.
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  I just kept having to say to myself, and none of this is
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  true, you are a good mom and you've never been a partier.
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  And then she dropped a bit of a bombshell about how she felt
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  being married to Joe. Saying quote, there was a lot of
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  attention on the three brothers and the wives.
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  Well, we were always called the wives and I hated that.
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  It was kind of this plus one feeling.
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  I did not see Sophie Turner as a + 1 to Joe Jonas, but I can see
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  how that would be really difficult if you were not down
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  for that. Like, OK, if you guys listen to
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  this podcast, you know that Married to Jonas, which was the
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  reality show of Kevin Jonas and Danielle Jonas when they first
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  got married. That is like my favorite show
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  ever. I miss it so much.
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  I'm so sad. I think it only had two or three
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  seasons. I'm so sad it got cancelled.
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  It's such a good show. And Danielle Jonas is built for
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  this. Like she was built to be a
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  supportive wife and just holds down the Fort, holds down the
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  family while her husband is out being a Jonas brother.
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  Like she does that so well and it seems to actually make her
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  happy. But I can understand how for,
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  you know, Priyanka or Sophie or other women who would come into
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  the family who are chasing their own stardom, their own careers
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  in that different kind of way, how it would be difficult.
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  You would always feel in someones shadow.
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  So I get it because the Jonas Brothers, there's such like an
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  institution, you know, they're like this iconic kind of
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  Hollywood Disney institution. So she did say that she is
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  unhappy with how the divorce played out publicly, but then
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  called Joe a great father and said she's confident that they
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  will work it out as Co parents. She also talked about how in
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  those days she would call her lawyer and just say like I can't
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  do it. Like I just can't keep going.
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  Like, this is so hard with all the paparazzi in the media
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  attention. And it's like, I I really
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  appreciate that she spoke out about that and it was really
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  recent, right? Like, sometimes I think
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  celebrities come out, women celebrities will come out and
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  talk about how they were shamed or treated by the media.
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  But it will be sometimes like a decade on, you know, it'll be a
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  very long time ago. So it makes us as the public and
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  as journalists and whatever, Like, it makes it easier for us
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  to remove ourselves from that and be like, well, that was a
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  different time. We didn't know better.
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  Like that's just how we treated women.
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  Or like, Oh my God, Can you believe we did that?
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  We would never do that. Now her talking about this and
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  being so open about how difficult this was for her
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  mental health, that's really powerful because it literally
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  was just last year. And I hope that this makes
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  people reconsider how they covered that whole divorce.
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  All right, guys. Well, that's it for today.
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  Thank you so much for listening to mini Scroll.
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  Bye.