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- 0:00Hi friends, you're listening to Loose the Plot with Carla and
- 0:02Emily. In this.
- 0:03Episode We're reading the Mindfuck series by St.
- 0:07Abbey. We are talking about all five
- 0:10books, so warning, there will be spoilers.
- 0:27I'm Carla, and you should have killed me, Debtor.
- 0:30I'm Emily. If he doesn't gift you people to
- 0:32unarrive on your anniversary, is he even the one?
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- 0:57Warnings. Hey.
- 1:00So these warnings are from book trigger warnings.com.
- 1:04I don't know if I just put in the first book.
- 1:06My bad. Let's just see what happens.
- 1:08Let's just see what these are and if there's anything else.
- 1:11Assault, Gore. Murder.
- 1:13Pedophilia. Rape.
- 1:15Yeah, that's pretty. Sums it up.
- 1:18I can't think of anything really.
- 1:20Just Triggery. Just frightened, Yeah, just all
- 1:23the hard. Hitters, all the important
- 1:25Honestly, it's fun. Can we just start off with the
- 1:29fact that the author's pen name is St.
- 1:32Abby, which is stabby? Stabby girl What?
- 1:35A great way to start the series, eh?
- 1:37It's like, what should I pick as my pen name?
- 1:39She had like 4 pen names. Oh.
- 1:42She's a busy goyal. She was a busy going.
- 1:46RITSTS. Abby, St., Abby.
- 1:49Look, thank you for producing your work.
- 1:51God's gift. OK, so can I just start off with
- 1:55a complaint just straight out the gate?
- 1:57You know what? Yeah, start out strong.
- 2:01Yes, the second I read an Albert Einstein quote, I was like, if
- 2:06this is going to happen through the whole 5 books, I'm.
- 2:08Done. Of all people, Einstein.
- 2:11You know what? I didn't read a single one.
- 2:14Did you just? Skip.
- 2:15I just skipped too many extra words.
- 2:18And for what? If it's got no relevance, I
- 2:20don't want to know. It had very.
- 2:22Loose relevance, but also Einstein.
- 2:24Like get out of here. Wasn't he the one that
- 2:27plagiarized all the work from his own wife?
- 2:30I wouldn't be surprised. Like she contributed to all of
- 2:32his work and never got a credit. It's giving man behavior.
- 2:37So we're coming in hot with the complaints and the man hating,
- 2:40so you can kind of see it's. Been a good week.
- 2:42It's been great. Real treat.
- 2:47Wow, so I just in my notes, I just skip straight ahead to them
- 2:50dating. Oh well.
- 2:52Yay, yay. We.
- 2:54Come in a hard and fast in a coffee shop.
- 2:55Chapter one. Yes, she gets hit on by Craig.
- 2:58Cancelled immediately. Out of all the names, Craig.
- 3:01Yeah, he's supposed to be the hottest man.
- 3:04And his name is Craig. This man's bald.
- 3:08His back doesn't work. And he.
- 3:11Uses a pillow for his ass. Cheek giving 100 giving
- 3:18decrepit. Decrepit Craig is not the name.
- 3:21No. Anyway, she hates Craig.
- 3:24Craig is shit. And then?
- 3:26Logan swoops in. Logan's like here.
- 3:29I'm paying for your $2.00 muffin.
- 3:33You know, it's a real treat, a treat on me.
- 3:36So he pulled the reverse psychology where he didn't ask
- 3:39for anything in return. He just walked away.
- 3:41He was like he was living in his girl energy.
- 3:44He wanted her to chase him down. Yeah, chase him.
- 3:49Chase him. We love, we no chase in her.
- 3:53So can we talk about Lana? First of all, let's let's she's
- 3:57our female main character, most of the stories from her
- 4:00perspective. What do we think about her?
- 4:03Depends. She's conflicting.
- 4:10I love her. Do you hate her?
- 4:14I don't know. I feel like.
- 4:14That one's coming, I. Don't know why.
- 4:16It's like AI love her, but is it misogynistic if I hate her?
- 4:22No. No.
- 4:23But you love her as? Well, I love her, OK?
- 4:25What do you love about her? That she just matters people.
- 4:31But OK, can I just Why does it always have to be pedophiles?
- 4:35Like, give the pedophiles a break.
- 4:36Sorry. Right.
- 4:38No, but like in these type of books you.
- 4:41Don't need a reason, just. Kill the man.
- 4:43No. But the reason is he is a man.
- 4:45No, but you're like, you know what, I'm going to pivot hard
- 4:48left. I'm going to go the opposite
- 4:49way. No, But why is it in these
- 4:51books, it's always it's like it's OK to kill them because
- 4:54they're a pedophile. Fuck the justice system.
- 4:57Yeah, like, I get it. It's the vigilante approach.
- 5:01But also, why can't they also just be assholes?
- 5:05Why have they got to be Pedos? I know.
- 5:08I actually realized why I don't like.
- 5:11What I'm like? No.
- 5:15No, this is our last episode of No.
- 5:20The thing I don't like is her weird profiling conversations.
- 5:24That's the only. Thing.
- 5:25That's the only thing. Everything else 99% I love her.
- 5:29Bro, didn't she just go to one side class and then she thinks
- 5:33she's an expert profiler on an FBI level?
- 5:35You know. What I just I just say when
- 5:39women do things well. Go boss.
- 5:43How dare she have skills? That's like me doing one yoga
- 5:47video on YouTube and then pretending I'm a full blown Yogi
- 5:50instructor. I know.
- 5:52But what if she's up? I don't know where she's getting
- 5:55her information. From You're like I support
- 5:57women's Rights and wrongs. Matter of way, do more, do less.
- 6:05Well, Logan. OK, so she meets Logan.
- 6:07They're flirting with each other, muffins are exchanged or
- 6:09whatever. Cool.
- 6:10He actually is an FBI profiler. But what confuses me about him
- 6:15is he also a detective? They keep calling him Special
- 6:17Agent Bennett. He's just a special agent.
- 6:20But why do they keep explaining him as a profiler when he's
- 6:23clearly a detective? Because he's.
- 6:26He's doing the work from start to finish.
- 6:28That's true. What profilers are the people
- 6:31that sit in like a lab doing statistics right?
- 6:34Yeah. And figuring out the psychology
- 6:37behind the criminal? They're not.
- 6:38And that's and that's it not going out.
- 6:40They're not doing the ground work.
- 6:42Yeah, true. What is going on?
- 6:43There was 2. FBI.
- 6:45Profilers, yeah. And fucking Lana, who's
- 6:49apparently in her profile herself.
- 6:52And oh, she's trained. She's trained.
- 6:54She can repress any emotion on her face so that she looks like
- 6:58something else. It's.
- 6:58Not even that. She just has so much metal on
- 7:01her face. She says that and a couple of
- 7:03times. But she does say that she
- 7:05purposefully went out of her way to train herself.
- 7:07Fair to. Pretty much be a spy.
- 7:10Yeah. What is her job?
- 7:13She's got an eBay store. Like she's drop shipping.
- 7:18She's Etsy. Or at least someone drop
- 7:20shipping could have this much free time because what is she
- 7:22doing? I don't think they.
- 7:24I think it's just a cover. I don't actually think they do
- 7:27any what. Is her.
- 7:28Income. She stole that girl's identity.
- 7:31But what's the income from stealing like being someone
- 7:34else? The girl that died in the car
- 7:36crash that she stole, the identity was rich, so she just
- 7:39stole. Just took all the.
- 7:41Assets, Yeah, they just transferred it to her.
- 7:44I don't actually think she. Works.
- 7:46They're like, what's your Social Security number?
- 7:49They're like, there's no much job, we're just going to bank
- 7:51transfer this stranger everything.
- 7:53Yeah, just memo, is that OK? She's literally pulling in Alex
- 7:58Volkov. She's got all the time in the
- 8:00world, all the income in the world.
- 8:02You can't murder people if you don't, if you have no time.
- 8:06Yeah, she's got time. Job is murdering people.
- 8:09She's. Doing week long stints of
- 8:10torture. That is true.
- 8:12She's very dedicated to her craft.
- 8:15OK, So the biggest problem in their relationship at the gate
- 8:17is the fact that she's a murderer and he's an FBI agent
- 8:21literally working on a case that ends up being hers.
- 8:25Yes, because he was working on a previous case.
- 8:28She gets somewhat involved as they start dating and then it
- 8:32sort of segues into her. Case Yeah, I honestly feel like
- 8:37he is the worst. He's so.
- 8:39Bad. He's so bad.
- 8:41His whole team at some point was like, I think, I think she is
- 8:46the murderer and he's just like, they're just trying to hint to
- 8:49him, oh, it might. Not.
- 8:51There might not be a bad thing he's so bad at.
- 8:54He's young. But why is he so dedicated at
- 8:56his job, but also so bad at it? Because he's like I.
- 9:00Grind all day. I practically don't have a day
- 9:02off. I've got no work life balance.
- 9:04Bro grind. All day.
- 9:06You're grinding, but you're bad at it.
- 9:09What is your output? Where is the murderers?
- 9:11Yeah, where's the results? Half his team is corrupt.
- 9:17Like it just gets worse and worse.
- 9:21That he couldn't even catch the boogeyman.
- 9:23I'm. Like the bait was right there.
- 9:25Oh, so close, stupid. And The thing is, I liked him at
- 9:30the start. Yes.
- 9:32Which is so problematic in. Itself he.
- 9:35Started out competent. He wasn't desperate.
- 9:37He wasn't a little red flaggy. And why was his character up
- 9:40turning into a loser? It started.
- 9:43It all started when they didn't do foreplay.
- 9:47Oh. Dude.
- 9:49Don't get me started. Don't get me started.
- 9:53Throughout the entire five books, the only time he did oral
- 9:58was when they broke up and he was scared that she was going to
- 10:00leave his ass. And he's all like like bitch,
- 10:07he. Knows that I keep them.
- 10:10One occasion of oral sex in the whole, however long this book
- 10:14is. He literally was like, I've been
- 10:16skipping the good part. Why?
- 10:19You seem to have all the time and no time, Sir.
- 10:22She. Seems like the type who never
- 10:24came, but just wouldn't say anything about it ever to him.
- 10:28She just rolls over like. Another one bites dust.
- 10:35Bong, bong, bong. That was too exciting.
- 10:38I feel like that song is too exciting.
- 10:40It's like a sad song. Another one.
- 10:49My orgasms I barely knew. OK, we're getting way too far.
- 10:57So. Does he get?
- 10:58Paid for all the sex show? I'm asking the important
- 11:02question. Is he rich?
- 11:03I I don't know if he's getting paid for a job.
- 11:05Why are they always at her house?
- 11:08Why are they never at his? Yeah.
- 11:11What even was his place like? He had a nice house.
- 11:15It's probably 'cause he was sniffing around, making sure
- 11:17that she didn't have guys up there.
- 11:19He wasn't an obvious insecure guy.
- 11:22He was a low key insecure. Guy.
- 11:24He was so jealous. Which is actually worse in my
- 11:28opinion. They were so jealous and they
- 11:30knew each other for like 5 minutes.
- 11:32Oh, A. 100% you know how they were flirting back and forth and
- 11:36I think they had already gone on maybe one date?
- 11:39She hints like she jokes to him. Oh, I guess you could just find
- 11:42my address. He double s down, looks up her
- 11:46dress, rocks up on the doorstep, and she opens the door without
- 11:50even realizing she's not wearing pants.
- 11:52Girl, please. She was so.
- 11:55Confident. When she was saying it to him,
- 11:56she's like, yeah, it did show up.
- 11:58I'm like what he would. And who doesn't check if the
- 12:01postie's coming or something? Who doesn't check if they're not
- 12:04wearing pants? Who?
- 12:08Who? Lana.
- 12:09Lana. Doesn't check.
- 12:10What if you're wearing your grundies?
- 12:12I just feel like if you're pantsless at home alone, right?
- 12:16You're in comfy grundies. You're in chunky grundies.
- 12:20And if you're wearing a delicious thong, absolutely go
- 12:23fuck yourself. You're not.
- 12:24You're not. You are lying.
- 12:27You're not chilling. You're not all the way up your
- 12:30crack. Unless you're expecting a booty
- 12:34call later. Crack out, Pussy out.
- 12:38Why is the pussy out? Why isn't it?
- 12:45You're like I'm comfortable. I'm at home, damn it.
- 12:48Oh, the gusset. Check.
- 12:49Oh, damn. So she's.
- 12:50She free she's. She's getting there.
- 12:53You know Grundy's? And then he just initiates so
- 12:56hard. Isn't that the first time they
- 12:58have proper sex? Yeah, he just bitch.
- 13:00My legs are hairy. Like what is going on if he
- 13:03just? Works.
- 13:04Up. She's not.
- 13:06She's got no hair. That girl ain't leaving evidence
- 13:09everywhere. She's hair free.
- 13:11Could they DNA my long ass like? Yes.
- 13:16No, my daddy long legs, not the. Daddies.
- 13:20OK, so this is the first time they have sex.
- 13:21It's very vanilla. It's very much pee in the
- 13:24straight away. Yeah, she has quite possibly the
- 13:27most instant female orgasm we've ever talked about in any of
- 13:30these books. It was faster than a 2 minute
- 13:33noodle. Like what is going on even?
- 13:37Maggie is not putting in the work.
- 13:38No, I counted 2 pumps. I don't know about you guys
- 13:45count of 1/2. That's the fastest orgasm for
- 13:48man too. I was just like, you can't tell
- 13:51me people are throffing over 2 Pump Logan.
- 13:54No. It really turned me off him.
- 13:57Yeah, at least. Give us a bit of tension.
- 14:00I mean, you're 28, there's no way you're not working out,
- 14:04working exactly, running around, taking down.
- 14:07He's hitting the gym. 28 is a males peak.
- 14:10Not Logan's Logan is actually. It is mid. 60s Oh my God, no,
- 14:19please. There's for the 60.
- 14:21Year olds, please take it back. So the next day he has to cancel
- 14:24because obviously work the boogeyman case is heating up or
- 14:27whatnot, so he accidentally left his boxes there.
- 14:31And she just wears. Commando when he left, must of I
- 14:35just don't. But the real?
- 14:38Scary part is her wearing his boxes.
- 14:41Yeah, you don't know if that man knows how to wash his own ass.
- 14:44He's not too much. What if he had full skinny in
- 14:47that? No.
- 14:48But you know. You know what the best part is?
- 14:51He literally texts her. Keep my boxes warm.
- 14:57Like what? They've been one for hours and
- 15:01she's. Just farting in them.
- 15:05Oh my God, if someone said that to me, I'd be like you are.
- 15:08Failed. But then she.
- 15:10He messages her three days later or something.
- 15:13And she's like, I'm just putting them back on.
- 15:15Did you wash them? I don't.
- 15:18Think she did. They are the most at that point.
- 15:20Just sell them. Befinder.com.
- 15:25They're one. Undies.com one.
- 15:27In hell. OK, I don't know if it's just
- 15:30me. Guys undies are like straight up
- 15:32and down. If I put my boyfriends undies
- 15:33on, they're not making it up past the thighs.
- 15:37Nah. They're not sleeping.
- 15:39It would probably fucking bust open and you're like keep my
- 15:48boxes warm. I'm like.
- 15:50You're like my thighs are saving lives.
- 15:53I'm like. Where did you buy these from?
- 15:55You have to pick up a replacement.
- 15:56Saying Calvin Klein. He would come again, like he
- 16:00would come over next time and I'd have like a 5 pack.
- 16:02I'd be like Sabi. And, you know, because it's
- 16:05American, it's like full, tidy, tiny whities.
- 16:10But it. Said boxes.
- 16:11So does that mean the silky ones?
- 16:13I hate those. They don't breathe.
- 16:14Men have the luxury of not needing.
- 16:17They. Sure they should.
- 16:18They should. But I feel like it's worse
- 16:20because they need. More.
- 16:23They need more aeration. They do.
- 16:25They should just be walking around in mesh pants.
- 16:27At the stage. Just a fucking whole fan up in
- 16:31there. Couch.
- 16:34Couch. Oh my God.
- 16:38Enough boxes. I love how we cling on to the
- 16:43most ridiculous parts, but no, everyone else probably, like,
- 16:46skimmed over this. Where's the fun?
- 16:49We know what the people want. It's fun.
- 16:51He's running around, not showering if he's at work for
- 16:54days on end. That man's stinky although.
- 16:58Didn't they at least use a condom?
- 17:00Yeah, he. Oh, OK, He popped on out of his
- 17:07wallet, but he hadn't had sex in months.
- 17:09Oh. It's coming out powdery.
- 17:13It's falling apart. Surely they last at least 12.
- 17:15Months or something. He said he hadn't had a
- 17:17relationship. In years.
- 17:20Really. What about?
- 17:21Oh mate. Lisa, that was like 3 years ago
- 17:23or something. Oh, that makes it even more
- 17:25embarrassing how she behaved. There's too many L's in this
- 17:28book. Yeah, Lana.
- 17:29Lisa Logan. Landon.
- 17:32Landon. Is it Landon?
- 17:35Leonard. Leonard.
- 17:36Well. Landon.
- 17:37I had to Scroll down to find him.
- 17:39Landon OK, at this point I was thinking Lana's a bit of a pic
- 17:43me because their interactions on the phone.
- 17:46She was desperate to text him back immediately.
- 17:49And she's just as bad. But also, she was like
- 17:51apologizing. Yeah.
- 17:53And she was like, Oh my God, sorry.
- 17:55It's OK that you have to go to work.
- 17:57Oh my God. I'm sorry that you have a job,
- 17:59actually. Actually, that is the part that
- 18:02literally made me want to die. It just survive.
- 18:06You're just doing the best. Go be a hero anytime it
- 18:11mentioned his job. At this point they're in New
- 18:15York. He's hunting down, I think the
- 18:17boogeyman she is watching them chew guys that she ends up
- 18:22killing. I don't understand how they just
- 18:24out of nowhere to strap men and just drag them.
- 18:28Like what is she lifting in the gym?
- 18:30I know she's so strong, but they keep going.
- 18:32She's so petite. Her sidekick, Jake.
- 18:36Yes. At the start, I was like, why is
- 18:39this idiot just going along with everything?
- 18:41I was so sorry. Ride or die.
- 18:43Yeah. And then I thought he was her
- 18:44actual brother. And I got confused again.
- 18:47Yeah, so it was. It took a long time for that to
- 18:49sort of unravel. But at the start, he's described
- 18:52as her eBay business partner. Yes.
- 18:55And then they're making money, swapping shit on Facebook
- 18:57Marketplace. That's all I got from.
- 18:59Dispatch like she's like we trade, We trade dildos for a
- 19:05fucking who's trading dildos for a lawnmower or whatever it is?
- 19:09I know or. A car or whatever it was.
- 19:11Get your. Own get.
- 19:13Your own? That's not sanitary.
- 19:16We don't care about the environment that much of my bro.
- 19:19Trade Anything else we need to. Get an adult online shop sponsor
- 19:23so that we can plug sex toys every time we talk about them.
- 19:29Logan doesn't ask questions. What kind of detective is?
- 19:32He He's the worst. FBI.
- 19:36He could have. Looked up so much more on her,
- 19:38but he just tells Hadley to just do a quick check.
- 19:41Yes, I'm like just do the check yourself at this point.
- 19:44I know. What do you do?
- 19:46Just log on to your stupid computer.
- 19:48Yeah. What the fuck are you doing,
- 19:49bro? He nearly busts her in the first
- 19:53book, so after she comes back from offing them two guys, she
- 19:58has just got out of the shower and she's already just burned
- 20:02her clothes. And if he was like 2 minutes
- 20:04earlier, yeah, but then he nearly gets her anyway because
- 20:06she didn't wash her hair properly.
- 20:08Yeah. She runs her hair through the
- 20:10shower and lots of blood was coming out.
- 20:13Yeah, and he's like, well, I can't even remember.
- 20:15This excuse, it was her finger was cut.
- 20:18What? Yeah, bitch.
- 20:20There was a lot of blonde. Yeah, she said that her and Jake
- 20:23were hanging out right beforehand or something.
- 20:26So it's just weird. And he started getting a bit
- 20:28suspicious. He's like, I don't.
- 20:29Think he's actually gay? So what if they are friends and
- 20:33he is straight? It's kind of like that book
- 20:36trope where the second they put the Dick in that expected
- 20:41exclusivity. And I said, Bro, you haven't
- 20:43even had the conversation. They literally, I think we're
- 20:45talking for about a week at this point.
- 20:47But she. Was just as bad anytime a woman
- 20:50literally was in his orbit, so she was like staring them down.
- 20:54She was so suspicious when Hadley rocked up and she was
- 20:58like, oh, what is this energy between them?
- 21:00And then she was all jealous. And he's like, she's literally a
- 21:03lesbian, which is the same flip situation with her and Jake.
- 21:06Yeah. But she wanted to kill Hadley.
- 21:10She's like, I can't. She's not a rapist.
- 21:11So I just two wrongs do not make a right.
- 21:15People, you're allowed to kill rapists and paedophiles.
- 21:19Yes. Take a shot every time rape is
- 21:21in these five books. You would be passed away,
- 21:24deceased, dead. Murdered by Lana Myers.
- 21:27Literally gone. There was like, so much rape in
- 21:31this. I mean, it is the whole back
- 21:34story. To be fair, at least they gave a
- 21:38solid back story. This is the most solid back
- 21:42story I've ever read in my life. Because there's some books you
- 21:45read and you're like, why would that even matter?
- 21:48Hadley tries to like, spook her off.
- 21:50It's like second book. The pages are only like 100
- 21:53pages long. It's really one big book we're.
- 21:55Just going to breeze through all the books.
- 21:56It's just. It's one plot, it's one plot.
- 22:00There's no time jumps. It's just continual.
- 22:02I don't know why it wasn't just one big book.
- 22:03I don't know. She tries to spook her and she's
- 22:08like, I found out all this information, you're actually
- 22:10Kennedy, blah blah blah, and she just doesn't understand.
- 22:14She needed all them surgeries. The girl's face was caved in.
- 22:18Yeah. Chill, Hadley.
- 22:19She came at us so hard. But she just never got a break.
- 22:23She had Hadley, and then like a couple of days later, she had
- 22:25Lisa trying to fucking piss the kissing contest.
- 22:30Lisa's even worse because she had no information.
- 22:34She just disliked her because she was rooting.
- 22:36Logan. Yeah, that was all it was.
- 22:38It was so at. Least at least Hadley was like,
- 22:41I don't understand this bitch exactly.
- 22:45Yeah, so she was more protective, whereas Lisa was
- 22:48just like. Did you know that I used to fuck
- 22:50him? No one cares about Lisa.
- 22:54Lisa can't even do her job. Lisa, you haven't banged him in
- 22:57three whole years. Literally no one cares you're
- 23:00But why is she still on the team?
- 23:03I don't. Know What did she do?
- 23:04She never did anything but be a petty bitch.
- 23:07She didn't do a single job. No.
- 23:10Except get targeted. And she was like, Oh my God,
- 23:12they're targeting me because of Logan.
- 23:14And it wasn't Even so funny. She's like, I heard it's because
- 23:19I'm your ex-girlfriend. And he literally goes, no, it
- 23:21wasn't when the Boogeyman was, like, targeting people.
- 23:26Yeah, in Logan's life and writing his name on their chest
- 23:29and all that shit, she's like, Oh my God, he's after me.
- 23:32I need the full protection to Logan.
- 23:34And he's like, you're grabbing all the security, Delana.
- 23:38Although that's one of the reasons why I dislike Logan.
- 23:40Yes, because fucking why are you acting like Lisa isn't even a
- 23:44person anymore? Just because you're not
- 23:46together? You're the one who put it in
- 23:47her. Oh yeah, Don't take this.
- 23:50You can't, Undicker. You can't.
- 23:53Be mad that she did it for professional.
- 23:56Growth. You can't be mad that you did
- 23:58the 1-2 pump in her as well. That was your choice.
- 24:02If anything, she deserves better.
- 24:05Yeah, it got. Lisa for President 20. 20
- 24:08Justice for Lisa Lisa Lisa Justice for Lisa But you know,
- 24:13as insufferable as Lisa was, she's harmless.
- 24:15And Logan would come back and be like no one gives a.
- 24:18Fuck about you. And it's just like my guy.
- 24:20Just 'cause you think Lana is perfect, it doesn't mean you
- 24:23didn't bang Lisa. This is your undoing, you shat
- 24:26where you eat. That is your fault.
- 24:29That is your. Problem.
- 24:31Actually, Lanas descriptions throughout this whole book,
- 24:34while I think about it, it's all over the place, because in the
- 24:37first book she was hippie dippie, right?
- 24:38And then after that she was hot girl.
- 24:42They. Blow up between the two books.
- 24:43She had. I don't mean that.
- 24:45Like you can't be hot while you're hippie dippie.
- 24:47She went. From like, full hippie pants.
- 24:50Yeah. To like, tight dresses and shit
- 24:53like that. And I'm like, what happened?
- 24:55Yeah, she went from dressing from Tree of Life to Sheen sexy.
- 24:58Yeah, yeah, she's drop shipping. She's, yeah, she's.
- 25:03Picking up the merchandise that she's drop shipping.
- 25:06She's going as she goes. So Jake finds out that she's
- 25:09dating an FBI agent. He's.
- 25:11He's. So mad.
- 25:13And she's like, it's fine. I moved my murder room.
- 25:17Is she just upstairs now? Bitch.
- 25:20I don't, OK? I don't understand how her house
- 25:25works. I know it's irrelevant to the
- 25:27story. It's very relevant.
- 25:28Why is her bedroom downstairs and not upstairs?
- 25:32And she has a murder room upstairs, and I'm assuming it's
- 25:34like Dexter decked out in PVC plastic.
- 25:38She's she's got a lot of equipment out there, but she has
- 25:41rooms upstairs, a spare. Room and murder.
- 25:43Room. I'm like, why do you have so
- 25:44many? Wouldn't your spare room be
- 25:46downstairs? Why is your bedroom downstairs?
- 25:49Exactly. The layout makes me.
- 25:52Crazy. But why is that an excuse?
- 25:54Because I moved my murder room upstairs.
- 25:56It's OK that I continue this relationship with an FBI agent.
- 26:01When he barged in, she was like, oh, luckily I just turned off my
- 26:04TV screen with all the cameras on it.
- 26:08Oh yes, sitting out in the open, she.
- 26:11Wanted to be caught, I feel like.
- 26:13She just wanted to break. So Logan keeps Flip Flop
- 26:16flapping all over her like every sex scene was just a big old
- 26:20flop. Yeah.
- 26:22I feel like he's just lying on his back and making her do
- 26:24everything. Just.
- 26:25I feel like he's just flapping his arms.
- 26:29Or just missionary. There's so many problems, Okay
- 26:32one. I feel like they just soak when
- 26:35they have. Sex.
- 26:35Yeah, there's no movement. There's no movement, they're
- 26:38just laying there. But they only ever had
- 26:41conversations while they were texting, and then after that it
- 26:44was sex, murder, sex and literally nothing between them.
- 26:48I actually don't know how they fell in love.
- 26:50I have no idea. They kept rescheduling dates and
- 26:53I was like, why even include that?
- 26:54Why do we have to sit here and listen to this many dates being
- 26:58rescheduled usages? Whiny Set up a Google Calendar
- 27:02at this point. So when they find out the
- 27:05Boogeyman is targeting Logan. Yeah, take them forever because
- 27:08they really shit out their job. But they realized because he
- 27:11actually physically started writing Logan's name in dead
- 27:14bodies and they're like, and he's freaking out.
- 27:16He's like, Oh my God, he's going to know that I have a new
- 27:19boyfriend. No one's going to fucking know.
- 27:23And then he comes to her house with all the security detail.
- 27:27Yeah. And then kisses her in the front
- 27:29of the house, at the street, on the street.
- 27:31Google Street map probably drove past and put that online.
- 27:35Honestly, at that point, give her a bodyguard and send her to
- 27:38fucking Canada. That man's not going.
- 27:41Why did he literally show him where he was after the fact?
- 27:45You know what pisses me off more than anything?
- 27:48So right before she's wrapped, I'm probably jumping ahead.
- 27:51He's just like, oh, it's so scary for you to be out in the
- 27:55world. But then he goes here, just take
- 27:57my keys to my car and go home alone.
- 28:01Fucking his. Car that's probably bugged.
- 28:04So stupid, the boogeyman takes them out, she'd say.
- 28:08I don't know how this man has this much time.
- 28:11And she shows up to the hospital pissed because she's been told
- 28:15there was a whole incident And then just having this fucking
- 28:18teenage problem. Cly it's because.
- 28:21Duke tells her Yelp. And then Logan's like, Oh my
- 28:25God, I knew we shouldn't have had a nice physical fit man
- 28:28bodyguarding her. We should have had an old,
- 28:30decrepit man, but. Do you know what he literally
- 28:33says? Only single people and people
- 28:35with no families are allowed to look after Lana now.
- 28:39Imagining. You're an FBI agent.
- 28:41You get picked and then you're there and she's like, you're
- 28:43only here because you're lonely. I'd be like.
- 28:47That's fucking discrimination. If you're good at your job, what
- 28:50does it matter if you have a family?
- 28:53It was. Well, that was because he was
- 28:55taking daughters and the boogeyman was stole.
- 28:58Some guy's no one. Even cares about Lana that much.
- 29:01Logan, he was overkill. Put.
- 29:03Her in a hotel. Exactly.
- 29:05But then Duke and her are doing like fucking workouts I.
- 29:09Do not. I do not understand why they.
- 29:11Were doing workouts you're so good.
- 29:14You're worried about her getting off by some psycho man and
- 29:19you're gonna burn out all the energy she probably has?
- 29:21Yeah. I'm here for it though, because
- 29:24them just getting sweaty together in her house.
- 29:27And the. Logan was like texting up a
- 29:28storm. Just being like, what?
- 29:30Who's this Duke guy? I thought an 80 year old man was
- 29:32coming over. You're that worried about your
- 29:35girlfriend that you're just going to get this old retiree
- 29:40some? Trigger happy guy.
- 29:41Sitting on the front step, just like.
- 29:44He's out there with the shotgun. You know what the best part,
- 29:48though, was when he just got the security detail and she barely
- 29:52knows who his team is, right? And they all just barge in.
- 29:55Who's in there? Lisa.
- 29:57Straight up pouting? Yeah.
- 29:59And then she was like how? Dare you?
- 30:02How dare you not be grateful that all these fucking
- 30:06detectives are in your house? But Logan, you're an idiot.
- 30:10It's not everyone else's job to babysit your new girlfriend of
- 30:14one week. Well, when they were in the
- 30:15hospital, after their little rage, Lana disappears.
- 30:20Good for her. And they're like trying to get
- 30:23them to find Lana. And Hadley's like, no, I'm going
- 30:25to try find the girl he's probably trying to murder right
- 30:27now. Exactly.
- 30:28That's more important. Lana's fine, the.
- 30:31Actual target, not Lano. Who?
- 30:34If they can't find her, how's he gonna find her?
- 30:36Exactly. She had a secret hideaway, but
- 30:38can we breakdown why she left and wanted to break up with
- 30:41Logan? Yes, go for it.
- 30:42I can't remember. OK, so.
- 30:46I will look so. She was breaking.
- 30:49She was breaking up with him because he didn't call her.
- 30:53And then after Duke told her that they got into a crash, she
- 30:57freaked out. And she's like, I'm going to the
- 30:59hospital. No one's telling me no.
- 31:00Everyone refused to tell her what was happening and then she
- 31:04shows up and Logan's like, what the fuck are you doing here?
- 31:07The boogeyman could be here. Like.
- 31:09The boogeyman's going to walk into a hospital like there is a
- 31:12million people he. Just walks out out of the kids
- 31:15ward. He's just chilling in reception.
- 31:19He's like, I'm just waiting. He's.
- 31:20Wearing a wig like. Just.
- 31:23Little mustache. Look, honestly, hospital
- 31:26security apparently isn't that bad.
- 31:28The boogeyman could be in there, but I mean also, was she being
- 31:32over the top? No and yes.
- 31:34Yes and no, because, OK, after and she's driving to the
- 31:36hideaway. She's chatting to Jake about
- 31:38what happened and then Jake, who doesn't even want her dating the
- 31:42FBI agent, goes. Are you sure you didn't
- 31:44overreact? Who cares?
- 31:45She's breaking up with the person you want her to break up
- 31:48with. Just go with it.
- 31:49Jake, what are you doing? She's allowed to be mad.
- 31:51Jake is not for the girls. No, no.
- 31:54And there's even. More of a betrayal later when he
- 31:57turns bisexual. Sneaky.
- 32:01Oh, sneaky straights, I tell you.
- 32:03Sneaky. Straights.
- 32:05Can't trust them. But they break up and so.
- 32:08Sorry, I'm just like. Anyway.
- 32:10We need to go back-to-back to the.
- 32:12Place is the new moon moment. It's a possibility she's.
- 32:21Sitting in a hideout, just like rotating so.
- 32:25Half circles only. And then she's like, oh reset.
- 32:29She just decides that maybe it's a good time to go kill.
- 32:33Someone. Why not?
- 32:34You're off the hook, love. You're off the hook, you know.
- 32:37You just break up with your FBI boyfriend that's stressed about
- 32:41your safety, Yes. Like he's not going to be
- 32:43watching you every move. Well, he didn't know where she
- 32:45was, so they are. Like.
- 32:47How? So bad.
- 32:49That is so bad. I understand.
- 32:50I don't understand. I know her.
- 32:52There's no cameras in the warehouse, but surely at some
- 32:56point someone has seen her car. But did she switch cars?
- 32:59Yeah, in the warehouse. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:01So they're trying to hunt down the boogeyman and then Lana's
- 33:05like, you know what? Well, hell, Chilling Hadley's
- 33:09step dad. Oh, that was such a side
- 33:11mission. Appreciate it.
- 33:13I like the side mission. OK, this is the bit that's just
- 33:16making sense. She pushed.
- 33:18He's a big guy. She pushed him uphill and then
- 33:22dumped his body in water and it just was floating there.
- 33:25And then they found it in a couple.
- 33:26Days tried to like, I think it was a couple of hours.
- 33:29She literally got home and he was floating and she was trying
- 33:33to push him underwater. And his face was like on the
- 33:35news 2 hours later, but she took the child that he currently had
- 33:39and gave her to a lady from her home.
- 33:43To got her name. God bless.
- 33:44They've got Lana at in the FBI office at this point because
- 33:47she's come back. Why would you go in at that
- 33:50moment too? They he showed, remember she was
- 33:53having a shower. Yeah.
- 33:54And she had like a gun in the shower and he just broke into a
- 33:58house. Oh, it's because they broke up
- 34:00and he hadn't even communicated with her.
- 34:02And he decides, you know, the best thing to do is, even though
- 34:04she thinks the boogeyman's after her is to literally break into
- 34:08her apartment or her house. Yes, and while she's in the
- 34:11shower, just walk in there. Yeah, yeah, I.
- 34:14I wish she got shot, because he deserves it.
- 34:16At that point. If your ex-boyfriend that you
- 34:19broke up with barges into your house in the shower while you're
- 34:22naked absolutely get fucked. Nikki.
- 34:27Nikki. Nikki Also, it's like I'm
- 34:30refusing to leave until we fix this.
- 34:33Oh. Haven't we all heard that
- 34:35before? Nothing could be worse when you
- 34:38just want to get away from someone.
- 34:41She just got entangled into the relationship again.
- 34:44Don't you hate it when you get back into relationship when you
- 34:46don't even want to get back into it like you've been trying to
- 34:48get out? Of it get.
- 34:49Trapped in you. Get in.
- 34:50You just get ensnared again. Yeah.
- 34:54Where was Logan's actual apology, though?
- 34:56I didn't. He didn't have one.
- 34:58He's just said I'm. Not leaving until we're together
- 35:01again. This is why.
- 35:04And he's like, it's my job that's the problem.
- 35:07Yeah, maybe it's your poor communication skills.
- 35:12Can we talk? About.
- 35:13Lana's plastic surgery. Yeah.
- 35:15Her face is more metal than bone, Logan is just an average
- 35:19guy and he never sees anything amiss with her face.
- 35:23And she's just naturally beautiful.
- 35:25Yes, I reckon they did that much work, but that much work to
- 35:29cover. Up the scars as well.
- 35:31That's convenient. She must to be in the world's
- 35:34best plastic. Search.
- 35:35She's roll it well, she said. He came from Russia.
- 35:37Okay. She paid him a lot more.
- 35:40I just feel like surely some of that would be noticeable where
- 35:42you'd be like, oh. They've.
- 35:44Have to have something done to their.
- 35:46Face It's book math. It never makes sense.
- 35:48True. I just love how Hadley ends up
- 35:52learning more about Lana within 5 minutes and then she Logan's
- 35:56ever known this entire time dating her?
- 35:58Yeah, but she's OK with it. She's like, you know what?
- 36:00It's fine. She killed my stepdad.
- 36:02Yeah, she's for the girls. And then she likes her from then
- 36:05on out, Which as the boyfriend you'd think is suspicious
- 36:09considering she was so up in her grill.
- 36:11And I hated her. He's so ignorant.
- 36:15Wouldn't an expert profiler, We're talking top tier FBI
- 36:19level. Wouldn't they knuckle down the
- 36:21gender by now? They keep.
- 36:23Going. Back and forth about it.
- 36:25Knuckle it down. That's on her, though, being
- 36:28smart because she was wearing weighted bags and big shoes.
- 36:31And yeah, customized shoes and everything.
- 36:33So while they're looking for like a six foot £450 man, it's
- 36:40just this small baby. But get it right.
- 36:43Get it right. Because they act so scientific,
- 36:45Ohh, there was no hesitation. And that means this, There was
- 36:48this, and that means that so get the gender right.
- 36:51I don't know how this man has his own team, honestly.
- 36:55He's the worst. He's so.
- 36:57Stupid. Imagine if your boss in this
- 36:59important detective team kept ragging on and on about his
- 37:02stupid girlfriend that he met on fucking Tinder 5 minutes ago.
- 37:05They did beat on Tinder, but. I'd be like bitch.
- 37:08We all have families, too. This isn't just about you.
- 37:12Yup, you pompous ass, you little butt hole.
- 37:16Did you get the five that Logan just started hating his job?
- 37:19He's like, I just want to go home all day and bang my
- 37:21girlfriend. Yeah, OK, 15 years old.
- 37:24Yeah. He was so regressive.
- 37:26He just wanted analogy. He just wanted a break.
- 37:30Yeah, like have a holiday. My dude go to Hawaii.
- 37:33The serial killer's still going to be there when you get back.
- 37:35Honestly, you're not even finding the next.
- 37:37Point Your team sucks anyway. They wouldn't have made any
- 37:40progress. You're telling me Lisa just got
- 37:42a promotion because if she had sex with you and that's OK?
- 37:47She's. She must have the fun and
- 37:50fanciest cooch. I don't even get that coochie
- 37:53queen mad at yourself, bro. SA.
- 37:56Johnson comes into it, which is the typical decrepit, the
- 38:05typical Army jock vibe guy who is the rival agent on the FBI
- 38:12team. And he's there.
- 38:13He's trying to take names and whip butts because he's like,
- 38:16what are you guys doing, you guys kindergartening this whole
- 38:19case? You're fucking it up.
- 38:21He has a point. He He has a point.
- 38:23I'm also buddy. Johnson.
- 38:25But he's no bet. Why?
- 38:26Because he's cracking worse. He's a bad guy.
- 38:30He can't even close a case. He never fucking found the
- 38:34original killer, He. Closes cases.
- 38:36Just not in a conventional, just not evidence kind of way.
- 38:39Yeah, just. Thought.
- 38:41He's. He's not a politics, OK?
- 38:43He's about the politics. He's about climbing the social
- 38:46ladder and he's about getting ahead.
- 38:47He but. There's. 1.
- 38:51There out there. Yeah.
- 38:53But. He's their reasons.
- 38:55They're not correct results, but their results he's some.
- 38:57Reason. Lana is so traumatized because
- 39:01he couldn't do his job. You know what he does Get
- 39:05results. Because, because she.
- 39:06Cleared out a whole town, a whole town of rapists and only
- 39:12started with SSA Johnson. Anyway, justice for SSA Johnson.
- 39:20Johnson is king. Johnson and Johnson and Johnson
- 39:23baby. Powder them thighs up because
- 39:25he's. Doing all of him and his Thunder
- 39:28thighs are coming in to wet booties into shape and he's like
- 39:31fucking Logan. Get your shit together.
- 39:33What are you doing if you do not fucking get your?
- 39:36Nemo leaves together. Nemo, He's only down there
- 39:39because he's like, he's going to work out.
- 39:41Who the real killer? Is and I'm going to lose my job.
- 39:43True. I'm going to lose my job.
- 39:47He's like this case is sloppy floppy.
- 39:49And you guys? This is picking it off.
- 39:51Murdered in the end. Or is he set free?
- 39:54I. Don't know.
- 39:55I'm assuming he gets murdered. I don't know.
- 39:57I'm assuming painfully. Hopefully.
- 39:59I think he was the painful ones. One of the painful ones.
- 40:03Nah. Surely.
- 40:05OK, my bad. I should be nice.
- 40:08Rode harder for my king, no about his ending.
- 40:15I know what he's doing. Look, I have to root for
- 40:17somebody, OK? High excess.
- 40:19Johnson. OK, Logan was giving at the
- 40:21start, but then he was not giving.
- 40:23So who else am I supposed to last trip long to?
- 40:25Fucking. Fucking who?
- 40:29Who? Duke.
- 40:33Duke. Yeah, we did love Duke.
- 40:34I feel like he was a bit of a himbo.
- 40:35Oh. We love Himbo for it.
- 40:37I love a golden retriever, Himbo.
- 40:40Love it and he's always down for an alibi.
- 40:42Like he just he's cool. He's always down for Lana's
- 40:46rights. Fuck her safety.
- 40:48She can do whatever she wants. If she wants to walk into the
- 40:51house with the killer, that's her, right?
- 40:54Exactly. Now it was getting to be like
- 40:57probably Book 3:00-ish or something.
- 40:58I don't fucking. Let's see.
- 41:00Yeah. But anyway, I could not.
- 41:02At this point in the books, I was eating this up because I was
- 41:05like, I cannot wait for Logan to feel like such a full idiot for
- 41:09not realizing that his girlfriend was the murderer.
- 41:11This whole time I was just like. Almighty.
- 41:15Almighty, the reveal did not give at the end, but it was
- 41:19worth it at the. Time.
- 41:19It was not the worst. I was consuming this I.
- 41:22Feel like he could have been more outraged.
- 41:25I mean, he did it all the way wrong, but we'll talk about it
- 41:28when we get there. We get there because after
- 41:30immediately after that, she murders Morgan, which was more
- 41:35of the rapey one on the list. Yeah, he was.
- 41:38He was just there because he had wanted that moment for his
- 41:42entire life. He didn't care what the others
- 41:45were doing. But she just walks into his
- 41:47house. Just walks right in.
- 41:49And then she was all like he he Can I use your phone?
- 41:52I'm lost. And he was like, what an
- 41:55opportunity to be the scum I am. Just another day being me.
- 42:00Just another dying. And then she she.
- 42:04Whooped his ass. She whooped his ass.
- 42:07She burned his house down. I love how no one knows who she
- 42:10is because they thought she died originally after that attack.
- 42:13Yeah. So she's always coming in.
- 42:15Like, don't you know who I am? And she.
- 42:17Bitch. You look totally different.
- 42:19I know, but it's so good at the same time because she'll say
- 42:22something that they said and they're like, oh.
- 42:24Yeah. They're trembling, quaking.
- 42:26They're pissing themselves as their Dick was still attached
- 42:29pussy. Quivering.
- 42:31Yes. Gooche contracting.
- 42:37Taint. Rippling.
- 42:38I just don't get it. I.
- 42:42Got just OK, can we just talk about the fact that it's a
- 42:46revenge book? Uh huh.
- 42:47Why does it always have to be? Rape.
- 42:50For it to be bad enough. And this is in movies.
- 42:53Can we not just? Murder someone.
- 42:55Can't we just have feminine rage anymore?
- 42:58Just rage. It.
- 43:00Does like he walked in front of you?
- 43:02Right. You know.
- 43:04He cut in front of you in line at the fucking post office.
- 43:07At McDonald's, he spilt your coffee.
- 43:10He didn't wave when you let him in the traffic lane like what is
- 43:13going on? Because it's always these trauma
- 43:16back stories where the woman has to be.
- 43:18Oh no, I'm a survivor. I feel like I love the like.
- 43:22It actually is a good reason. But it was a lot.
- 43:26It was a lot to take in. I was not ready.
- 43:28I was not ready. For the entire trauma.
- 43:31But you know what? It was not censored, not even a
- 43:34little bit. No, but you know what eked me
- 43:36out is when I think one of the first time she was hooking up
- 43:39with Logan. It might have been the very
- 43:40first time she goes. I cringe waiting for the moment
- 43:44that my whole body seizes up and doesn't accept him for the sex
- 43:48or something. But because it's Logan, it was
- 43:50all good. I was like, is that really an
- 43:52accurate representation of how a traumatized person would they?
- 43:55'D be like, oh, it's OK. Because it's Logan.
- 43:58Sorry, that's sounds really good in a book, but it's kind of
- 44:03downplaying. I don't know.
- 44:05Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a way I was like.
- 44:09Yeah. So they decide, OK, we've got to
- 44:14go for a trip to Delaney Grove as a team.
- 44:17And of course he's like Do we bring Lana?
- 44:19Do we not bring Lana? Is she your pet dog?
- 44:22Oh, I know she. Has a life, Sir.
- 44:25You've been dating two weeks. Apparently the queen she is was
- 44:28like, absolutely. She's too scared to be alone
- 44:32after the boogeyman. Yeah, she's in for the murder.
- 44:35She's like, absolutely murder them all.
- 44:38But how convenient, convenient. What's that?
- 44:41How convenient that they're just a town over because she can run
- 44:44to her house from Delaney Grove. And why It made it seem like
- 44:48there shouldn't have been just right next to each other.
- 44:50Because she changed her whole identity.
- 44:52She went through all this effort.
- 44:54Yeah, it made it seem like she was going across the state.
- 44:57And they're like, no, it's just a stone's throw away.
- 44:58It's like, what? Yeah, imagine if they just got
- 45:01one of those baby strap on things and she could just be on
- 45:04his back. Yeah, yeah.
- 45:06That's the energy it's giving. Just a little praying, oh.
- 45:09Really. I think this is the moment that
- 45:12Leonard started putting it together.
- 45:15Oh, how convenient that Lana's where all the murders are and
- 45:19she's tired. But he wasn't even mad.
- 45:22Yeah. I don't get why none of these
- 45:24people actually care about their job.
- 45:25Nah. So they tracked down Diana from
- 45:28Delaney Grove. Yes, and she just.
- 45:30Spills the entirety. Where has this lady been this
- 45:33whole time? Why?
- 45:34Has she not? Well, to be fair, her son was
- 45:37threatened. Yeah, So she couldn't do
- 45:39anything. But it wouldn't he be all grown
- 45:41up now? Yeah, he was grown up.
- 45:44Well then, you should have gone to the police.
- 45:45Yeah, who sucks that up? They were fucked.
- 45:49Even if you're the most fucked person, why would you be like,
- 45:52yeah, I'm going to get my son to be a ringleader and rape these
- 45:57kids. Yeah, the whole situation.
- 46:00On the street. Was the weirdest shit I've ever
- 46:02read in my life. And also who recorded it?
- 46:06Yeah, I I don't think it ever came out.
- 46:08Who recorded it? What kind of camcorder are they
- 46:10holding? Like one of those big ass
- 46:11camcorders from back in the day, literally years and years later.
- 46:16Why the OK? This is the bit where it all got
- 46:18muddy to me because it was too much.
- 46:19It's too much. So essentially, SSA Johnson
- 46:24framed their dad and instead of just putting him in jail like a
- 46:28normal person, they made him swallow nails.
- 46:30Which is why the the nails and the house and stuff comes into
- 46:34it. And they raped him.
- 46:35Yeah. And I was like why?
- 46:37I don't understand why, and it's gross, so I'm sorry in advance
- 46:43why people are so against gays, right?
- 46:47They can't. They can't handle gays in their
- 46:49life, right? This in this particular town.
- 46:52But then they raped. Them.
- 46:54Yeah. It's God's sin that they're gay,
- 46:57but we're going to rape. Them Exactly.
- 46:59Like you're the problem, I'm like it's.
- 47:02You non consensual is the problem not the the actual
- 47:06method of sex. I just.
- 47:08And the way he. Talked about it.
- 47:10He's like, his butt hole was so tight.
- 47:12I was like like. What?
- 47:13And now? It's a son, so not I'm like.
- 47:19And this is. Like this is like.
- 47:20And they use like hills. Have eyes in this town I.
- 47:23Just don't understand how he was like, oh, his butt hole's so
- 47:27tight it's better than her vagina at this point.
- 47:31But then was like and then called in the F word.
- 47:34Yeah, I'm like your. Logic is not logically, no, it's
- 47:38not Logically, it's. Just.
- 47:42Bamboozled. But that's the bit where the
- 47:43book just went COO, COO, na na so much.
- 47:46And I was listening to the audio book and I had it on like double
- 47:49speed. And I was like, am I even
- 47:51hearing this correctly? Why are they raping the dad?
- 47:54I thought they were just perverts because she was a. 16
- 47:57year old girl and they were trying to get old mate to rape
- 48:00her because he's the brother. So the reason the sheriff went
- 48:03batshit crazy is because his daughter was raped, tortured and
- 48:07put in the street. So then he was like, we must do
- 48:10it to these people we're framing.
- 48:12And he's like the children must feel the pain of what my
- 48:14daughter had to do. OK, also I that doesn't make
- 48:17sense. Like they're children.
- 48:19Why is Kyle not the first suspect?
- 48:22They all knew he was deranged. The reason he went to that town,
- 48:25like the mum Pomp d'boff, was because he was killing animals
- 48:29and stuff. It was just.
- 48:32Fucked. How is the whole town?
- 48:34OK? They gossip about it.
- 48:36They've talked about it. This happened years ago.
- 48:38And how is Let it go? Electively OK to let it go, but
- 48:41at the same time when it's the end and she's getting her
- 48:44revenge and they do like a purge situation, they do a big
- 48:46announcement on the TV and everything, they're like.
- 48:48She's all you. Guys covered this up for years
- 48:51and years. If I was sitting watching myself
- 48:53on the TV screen, I'd be like, 'cause I knew I didn't do.
- 48:56Anything. Yeah, not everyone can know that
- 48:58that happened for real. Not everyone that happened in
- 49:01front of their house. Yes.
- 49:03So what if you're just an innocent person in the town?
- 49:06That had. Nothing to do with.
- 49:07It but I think it was poor so they couldn't pretend.
- 49:12Yeah, but I'd be like what happened 10 years ago?
- 49:15Yeah, I'd be pissed. I'd be like, I'm like your side,
- 49:18OK? I would be getting out there.
- 49:20I'd be like see you. She kills Kyle, she goes into a
- 49:25haunted house and just fucking chops up the security guards in
- 49:30front of everyone. She.
- 49:31Cuts one up with a chainsaw and they're like, oh, it's so real.
- 49:34You're telling me you're in a backwards town where you can't
- 49:38even watch the TV and they have that much special effects.
- 49:41Yeah, as if they're like, this is way better than last year.
- 49:45Yeah, The local town purposefully puts together a
- 49:48haunted house and they depict rape on purpose to scare the
- 49:53teenagers about having sex and going out at night.
- 49:56Yes, what the fuck? I'm like your whole town.
- 50:00No wonder why they thought it was part of the show.
- 50:02Yeah, and that's how Kyle got away with a lot of his rape,
- 50:05because he was doing it in the rape section of the fucking
- 50:07haunted house. But.
- 50:09Like, have you met Kyle? He's that resident rapist.
- 50:12He's our OGI. Don't understand this town.
- 50:15Yeah, it's giving House of Wax or?
- 50:18Have you seen House of? Works.
- 50:19No, I haven't. I do not watch scary movies or.
- 50:23The hills have eyes like Colty small town.
- 50:26I don't even know. After that whole situation, he
- 50:29still hasn't clocked on, no, and Leonard is giving him hints
- 50:32left, right and centre, calling her she from now on like he
- 50:35doesn't even. Keep saying our girl he's like,
- 50:38it's not like who boy other girl do we know that happens to be
- 50:42everywhere we are. And Logan's too caught up acting
- 50:46like Lisas and inconvenience. He's too caught up and stupid
- 50:50shit. Lisas and Girls girl.
- 50:52She's just keeping him. So on his toes, that line is
- 50:57sneaking through. You've got Hadley helping her,
- 51:01Lisa not realizing she is. I was getting so frustrated.
- 51:05I think this is this is when I texted you.
- 51:07Leonard. Knew for way too damn long.
- 51:09Yeah, and he figured it out himself.
- 51:11Like, I know Hadley figured some stuff out, but it was confirmed
- 51:14to her way early on, so I feel like that made sense because she
- 51:16had a personal reason. Leonard didn't have a personal
- 51:19reason to cover it up. No, the reason he covered it up
- 51:23is because he listened to what happened.
- 51:26They found out what happened. They found out all the traumatic
- 51:29stuff. He's like on board with them
- 51:31being trash and was just like, you know what, I think I'm just
- 51:34gonna let her do her. Play it out.
- 51:36And was this the night that four people died?
- 51:40Because Logan didn't do shit? He was too busy trying to get
- 51:42back to Lana one night and. Bone and then.
- 51:45That's when SSA Johnson came in. And he's like.
- 51:47What the fuck? Like you're too busy getting
- 51:49laid. Then he's like four people died
- 51:52tonight and literally you haven't done anything.
- 51:54Here's. Logan's whole team is standing
- 51:57up for Lana doing the work, so SSA Johnson doesn't get fired.
- 52:01From his job, but they're like. On strike or something, they're
- 52:04purposefully fumbling at their job.
- 52:07I just don't it's. Weaponized incompetence.
- 52:09Job edition. Job edition.
- 52:12There's this slow build up because like I said, Leonard
- 52:15knows for way too long. So there's this bit where
- 52:19Leonard like he's had enough Logan being an idiot and he's on
- 52:23the verge of revealing Lanas. True identity to Logan, right?
- 52:27Yeah, OK, this bit made me quake and make me want to leave the
- 52:31planet. He starts off the conversation
- 52:33and he keeps edging Logan and Logan's like just out with it,
- 52:35out with it. And he's like, just so you know,
- 52:39Lana's not currently fucking anyone else, bro.
- 52:42Why is that the first thing you've got to reassure him She's
- 52:45a full. Murderer I.
- 52:47Think because he was so sussed that she was sleeping with like,
- 52:50oh, it's because of Jake. He was so sad.
- 52:52How did you? Start that conversation with
- 52:55just so you know, at least she's not double dicking someone she's
- 52:58not sleeping with. Jake, she's she's.
- 53:00Murdering. People.
- 53:02He not only says that, but he also goes.
- 53:04She hasn't even had her. Her body count is not even high
- 53:08in the sexual department. OK I.
- 53:10Think he's just trying to ease him in, like?
- 53:12What information is that? Because even if he said she's
- 53:15had two ex boyfriends, it would be too many for Logan.
- 53:18I actually think the reason he was doing that was because they
- 53:21thought that Jake was the mastermind behind it and Lana
- 53:24was the one killing people, so they were sleeping and like
- 53:27manipulation. So I think that's why he's like
- 53:30Lana's not getting manipulated by because she's sleeping with
- 53:33Jake. She's just, she's just
- 53:35murdering. So Logan finds that out.
- 53:37Except he's got the story wrong, of course.
- 53:40No one in their department could get anything right, even
- 53:42Leonard. So he thinks she stole the
- 53:45identity of a different girl, but he doesn't realize she's
- 53:48Victoria. He thinks that she's the other
- 53:52girl. And he comes home.
- 53:53And Rage fucks her. Actually, I was done at that
- 53:59point. I was.
- 54:00All bored. For this book, because I you
- 54:03know how authors do this thing where they do like a little
- 54:08casual rape because that's what it is.
- 54:12And then they're like, but they'll be in the girl's head
- 54:15and they'll be like, yeah, but it's okay.
- 54:18They justify it. Yeah, they justify it because
- 54:20they did it identify because remember the 1st 16 and that and
- 54:24but they were like, but you didn't say no.
- 54:26Logan was already trashed. In my mind, he was.
- 54:28Trashed. By this point.
- 54:29But he was definitely. Why unforgivable at this stage?
- 54:33Why would you do that? That's what I don't get.
- 54:37You've learned that your girlfriend has been lying to you
- 54:39and everything. It's because he was trying to
- 54:40get his Dick in one more time because he knew he was going to
- 54:43be single for a bit, yeah. And he was mad at her.
- 54:45And then they went into her head and she was like, I know he's
- 54:49figured it out and he's mad at me and I'm just going to take on
- 54:51his anger. Girl, so you're being.
- 54:55Traumatized again. And you're cool with it, yeah.
- 54:58But then he goes, if I knew it was Victoria, I would have
- 55:01handled it better. He should have handled it better
- 55:03from the start. I.
- 55:07OK, foul behavior, negative points for Logan Bennett.
- 55:11Of course, why even speak to her?
- 55:14To clarify if he's even right? What if she was telling the
- 55:16truth the whole time and Leonard's hunch was wrong and
- 55:18he's just rage fucked his girlfriend for no reason?
- 55:21And like, tied her to bed. Didn't put clothes on her,
- 55:24didn't let her put clothes back on.
- 55:25Literally handcuffed her to the Ben and didn't let her speak.
- 55:28He had intense, scary eye contact.
- 55:31Yeah. So after that, obviously she
- 55:33fucks off, she does the disappearing act again, which
- 55:36fair. And then fucking Jake is just
- 55:38there, casually reveals himself to Logan and Logan's all like.
- 55:43What the fuck? And then?
- 55:44Fucking Jake's horrible lecture. I get that what?
- 55:47Logan did was wrong, but Jake's lecture bored the fuck out of me
- 55:51so long. It was such a guilt trip.
- 55:54Logan's an idiot for doing that, and he shouldn't have done that.
- 55:57Yeah, but Jake's guilt trip, which filled in all the actual
- 56:01information. Imagine.
- 56:03Being on the receiving end of that lecture.
- 56:05He could have got that if he listened to Hadley.
- 56:07Yeah, he just refused that because, you know, can't listen
- 56:10to another woman. OK, is this a miscommunication
- 56:14trope or what? I don't know because they never
- 56:16speak properly about anything. They don't do anything.
- 56:19They don't care if I have sex and kill people.
- 56:23They're clearing out the town and she's like killing the
- 56:25sheriff. Love that for her.
- 56:27I love how she just decides to take on the entire sheriff
- 56:30department in the entire town that was.
- 56:31The stupidest shit I've ever seen.
- 56:34She's out here stabbing people daily and she's like, I'm going
- 56:38to go full in there with all the guns in the world against
- 56:41fucking 30 people. You know how she gets shot?
- 56:45Yeah, at some point it was very Hunger Games where they all had
- 56:48cameras zooming in on her somehow, like Jake had all the
- 56:50cameras zooming in and they were like, oh is she injured and
- 56:52Logan's like. Oh my God, I hope.
- 56:54It's just a shoulder grazed baby who's shooting at her because
- 56:57you know how she was down at one point and she was speaking to
- 57:00Jake on the headset and she was like, remember?
- 57:02When we were little kids and we enjoyed our time together and
- 57:07like, I'm totally lying. And he's like, you're not
- 57:09allowed to say goodbye. I'm like bro who's shooting at
- 57:12her at this point because I'm imagining Constant.
- 57:14Why? I just don't understand why she
- 57:17went and cut up the judge, the other guy or lawyer or whatever,
- 57:21whatever. But then she was like, you know
- 57:23what? I'm just going to have a
- 57:24shootout with 30 deputies. And Jake says because she wanted
- 57:27to die. Yeah, that was kind of part of
- 57:29her plan. She kind of knew she had to just
- 57:31go out all gums blazing, revealed her face.
- 57:35Meanwhile, Logan. 'S having this full mental.
- 57:37Breakdown and. They're like what is happening?
- 57:40And he's like throwing shit around the fucking office and.
- 57:44He's like, I won't be able to get down the suit quick enough,
- 57:47so isn't the town a millimeter away?
- 57:49I don't understand at this point.
- 57:51So the big, big reveal at the end is that it was Lanas,
- 57:57Daddy's best friend. Yes, that stitched him up, which
- 58:00is Jakes. Dad.
- 58:01Yeah. So Jakes dad was in love with
- 58:05Lanas mom and. Bullshit like.
- 58:09This was the Oji killer because he was killing him, raping
- 58:13people that look like hunting. Adeline all over again.
- 58:16But The thing is, they thought it was because of Lana.
- 58:20They were like, they all looked like Lana and then someone was
- 58:23like, well, Lana looked like a lot like her mum, yeah, and.
- 58:27It's three months later, wasn't it?
- 58:29Yeah, it was. Three months later, Logan had
- 58:31been working nonstop to find out who the killer was.
- 58:34Because, you know, Lana can't make it easy for anyone.
- 58:36She's just got to make everyone do the work.
- 58:39He thought he could get in her good books again if he found the
- 58:42OG murderer. Yeah, and it's like get.
- 58:45A loan. Lo and behold, they had already
- 58:47found him. They had one of the original
- 58:51girls. That one murdered sister as his
- 58:54nurse. So she was slowly poisoning him.
- 58:56Yeah, and then apparently Katie had already taken out the
- 58:59catheter, so we should sit and piss or something all day long
- 59:02and. Then Logan comes in and he gives
- 59:04him the big villain speech kind of thing.
- 59:06Yeah, he's like, you know what? I'm gonna get my girl back.
- 59:09She's alive. Had least like they're alive.
- 59:12You know what's stupid? She'd already done the work.
- 59:14Yeah. Logan, we don't want you to come
- 59:17in here and shorten his misery. He's miserable.
- 59:20He can't talk, he can't move, He's saturated in piss.
- 59:23The fact that you go in there and kill him is doing him a
- 59:27favour, you idiot. Yeah, Hadley, She's just like
- 59:30Jake's enough the two times we had sex.
- 59:33He's enough for me to lose my job and disappear off the
- 59:37planet. And what was the weird
- 59:39heteronormativity of it all? Like, Don't make her straight at
- 59:44the end after saying you're a lesbian the whole time.
- 59:47Well, she never said she was a lesbian.
- 59:49That was they kept. Telling her that she was.
- 59:51Yeah, she was, said I. She literally said she wasn't
- 59:54comfortable with men and Logan was fine because he's a dumb,
- 59:56dumb and really bad at his job. He just said you're a lesbian.
- 59:59Yeah, he just decided. This is why he's bad at his job.
- 1:00:02He makes assumptions and goes with it as if it's factual.
- 1:00:05Yeah, no wonder why he couldn't find anybody.
- 1:00:08He's no good. But then he's just like he finds
- 1:00:10it in Greece and she's just bored out of their mind.
- 1:00:14They're just bored. And then of course, he comes up
- 1:00:17to her and then they're dancing and she's like.
- 1:00:20Yeah, how do? You prepare that relationship,
- 1:00:23even Lana. How do you?
- 1:00:25Even forgive him. Didn't he talk about it?
- 1:00:27And she's like, it's OK. I knew that you had known at
- 1:00:30that point. And it's fine.
- 1:00:33Women in these kind of books always do that.
- 1:00:35They forgive the most atrocious things with barely an apology
- 1:00:40at. All.
- 1:00:42Yup. Oh.
- 1:00:43Pharrell also when they hook up at the very end, no fool play,
- 1:00:48he. Literally just.
- 1:00:49Sticks it in what a way to end the the series to be.
- 1:00:53Honest. What a way to end it?
- 1:00:55What should we rate this one out of?
- 1:01:00How many? Chewed up pieces of hair.
- 1:01:02Gum out of five? Yes.
- 1:01:04She spits the gum into Lisa's hair.
- 1:01:06Gum hairs out of five. Gummy hairs?
- 1:01:09Yeah. How?
- 1:01:10Many. Gummy hairs out of five.
- 1:01:13Look, I started off thinking it was a three.
- 1:01:16As in, I liked it, and now I've just ranted about it for a whole
- 1:01:19hour. I feel like it's a two.
- 1:01:21Yeah, it was OK. It's a 2 vibe.
- 1:01:24You know it's a. Bit and I think it's the first.
- 1:01:26Book the original original original murderer that he was
- 1:01:29working on. The case that before they even
- 1:01:31started dating, when he had the brain wave, that it was a person
- 1:01:35obsessed with Leonardo da Vinci. I was like.
- 1:01:39What? It's the only time he did any
- 1:01:42work. But why was he, like, a genius
- 1:01:44in that instant and then every other time he's an idiot?
- 1:01:47Because he's like, there's a little bit of clay residue.
- 1:01:50So this guy was clearly making masks of all the women's faces
- 1:01:52that he saw as symmetric. Has to be gold or.
- 1:01:56Bronze. Look for people who are making
- 1:01:58these masks on Etsy and. Will as that's like how did he?
- 1:02:05Come out. Out with that at the gate, so.
- 1:02:07Hard and devolve so heavily. That's what I mean.
- 1:02:12How did he start at A+ plus Logan?
- 1:02:15And consistent. And like an A.
- 1:02:18Logan is not a consistent king. He went so far down and I feel
- 1:02:22like she stayed consistent the whole time.
- 1:02:24You know what it was? It was this stress and lack of
- 1:02:27sleep. Because they're constantly
- 1:02:28talking about his lack of sleep. Yeah, I feel like he could be
- 1:02:32really great, but all he does is rush home, have sex with her and
- 1:02:36go back to work. The only time they have a
- 1:02:38conversation is in the first book.
- 1:02:40Yes, And he only cares about her physical safety.
- 1:02:42He does not care about her emotional safety.
- 1:02:44Yeah. So the entire time he doesn't
- 1:02:46ask. How are you coping with the fact
- 1:02:48that the boogeyman tried to murder you?
- 1:02:50He's just like, just get people tailing her because I can't do
- 1:02:53it. Yeah.
- 1:02:54Or. She's coping really well.
- 1:02:56I thought she'd cope worse. You haven't fucking asked.
- 1:02:58Exactly how does he know this information?
- 1:03:01Yeah, so for content, I'm giving it A2.
- 1:03:04For readability, I'm going to give it a four because I was
- 1:03:07eating it up. Yeah, I agree.
- 1:03:09I'm squabbling the shit out of. It it wasn't like the best
- 1:03:12dialogue or anything, no. But I just wanted to see what
- 1:03:14happened next. So it had enough balance of
- 1:03:17suspense and action. It was keeping me going.
- 1:03:20I don't like big long action things.
- 1:03:21So it was losing me towards the end and then drawn out
- 1:03:24explanations. I think because there was less
- 1:03:26smart, I was more invested. Because you know how books, when
- 1:03:30they start fucking, they never stop.
- 1:03:32So every second chapter was sex. This at least was like they
- 1:03:35didn't have time to bone. Nah.
- 1:03:36So they were only having quickies and I could just move
- 1:03:39forward with the plot. Yes.
- 1:03:41So it was giving 95% plot, 5% smart.
- 1:03:45Yeah, so that's. Probably it.
- 1:03:46Hey, I hear a lot of people talk about this book, so I'm glad
- 1:03:49that we we went there. It's been on the.
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