Latest / Earn Your Leisure / Investor Daily: Why Novo Nordisk Can’t Beat Eli Lilly - The Pharma Drug War
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- 0:43Speaker 2: Novo is going in the opposite direction. Novo almost as
- 0:50Speaker 2: forty fifty two week low. So what is the deal
- 0:53Speaker 2: with Novo? Is this opportunity to buy Novo?
- 0:55Speaker 3: Hell No, Herald I didn't look like Jordan when Jordan
- 1:02Speaker 3: was out of the league playing baseball because David started
- 1:04Speaker 3: making them sit down. But when Jordan came back, heromined
- 1:07Speaker 3: shot the hair on his family because I don't watch
- 1:09Speaker 3: but no Novo. They missed on an Alzheimer's drug and
- 1:14Speaker 3: it's the crazy part that's interesting. They've fallen this much.
- 1:17Speaker 3: And isn't Novo's operate or net margin a gross margin
- 1:22Speaker 3: eighty nine percent? Like, how do you have a gross
- 1:24Speaker 3: margin net wide? And that stock does that? No, Lily
- 1:28Speaker 3: is a one of one company, and I have no
- 1:33Speaker 3: bias towards any of these, but Lily's just just is
- 1:40Speaker 3: it better company. This is like almost comparing Meta versus Snap.
- 1:44Speaker 3: I like Evan, I like to got glasses and when
- 1:47Speaker 3: the girls had the little filtered it's the fucking eight
- 1:49Speaker 3: years and it was fire. But they're not Meta. Novo's
- 1:53Speaker 3: not Lily. It's not I think if you look at
- 1:57Speaker 3: an executive management, drug the results of the drugs, the
- 2:01Speaker 3: pipeline that they have for the next five years, the
- 2:04Speaker 3: return on assets, return on equity. There's no point where
- 2:08Speaker 3: you look at Novo and say these two are the same.
- 2:13Speaker 3: It had a great moment, great, but it's over with.
- 2:17Speaker 3: I'm not saying that the company's dead. They're not going
- 2:19Speaker 3: to be delisted, but would they ever be Lily were
- 2:21Speaker 3: engine No.
- 2:24Speaker 1: No, Yes, it's doesn't look great. It doesn't look great.
- 2:32Speaker 1: They you know, ozempic was is a thing. It on
- 2:36Speaker 1: became the band aid of its adhesives, right, but you
- 2:42Speaker 1: don't have a mode on that that drug like they
- 2:47Speaker 1: So when zip bound comes out, other glps come out
- 2:52Speaker 1: less lesser known, even some white label GLP comes out.
- 2:57Speaker 1: That's going to cut into your business model. And again,
- 3:00Speaker 1: when you have an administration that is held doound on
- 3:03Speaker 1: making sure that American companies strives and going out an
- 3:06Speaker 1: American company, Well, every fifth ad when you watch Good
- 3:10Speaker 1: Morning in America, when you watch the Today's show, it's
- 3:14Speaker 1: going to be that American company tomorrow when you watch
- 3:17Speaker 1: the American America and you're like, damn sure it was
- 3:18Speaker 1: right that they're going to make sure that they're going
- 3:22Speaker 1: to promote lily and because it has obviously a superior product,
- 3:26Speaker 1: but it has the motive of having to not rely
- 3:29Speaker 1: on one thing, the Alzheimer's pilled. This is like the
- 3:34Speaker 1: third I feel like this is like the third time
- 3:36Speaker 1: that this has not worked.
- 3:37Speaker 3: That worked yep.
- 3:38Speaker 1: I don't know how many chances they're going to get
- 3:40Speaker 1: to not have it work. The stock is now trading
- 3:43Speaker 1: at the five five years ago it was that in
- 3:47Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, it was trading at forty two dollars
- 3:50Speaker 1: and the SOCC is currently sitting here five years later
- 3:53Speaker 1: at forty five. Had a crazy run up obviously during
- 3:56Speaker 1: the GLP phase up to one forty five forty seven,
- 3:59Speaker 1: and now we're right back down to where we were
- 4:01Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Gonna be tough. Would I would
- 4:06Speaker 1: definitely not invest in this.
- 4:08Speaker 3: If you look since inception when an ip or their
- 4:11Speaker 3: all time lowest two dollars and seventy four percent. Since
- 4:14Speaker 3: the high, they're almost have given up seventy five percent
- 4:16Speaker 3: of all those games I put in stock Club earlier.
- 4:18Speaker 3: Ten reasons why they have underperformed, but I'll give three here.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Through the expectations for the GFP one was too high.
- 4:26Speaker 3: The manufacturing bottlenecks and capacity limits were another issue, and
- 4:31Speaker 3: then also too Like outside of Lily, the weight loss
- 4:36Speaker 3: drug cycle of Boom and Bus has always been a
- 4:39Speaker 3: short cycle of winds and extreme losses like if you.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Go back to.
- 4:45Speaker 3: The ally drug like this category of weight loss drugs
- 4:49Speaker 3: has always had some issues, whether it was with a
- 4:52Speaker 3: veteran or heart issues or gut issues. This isn't a
- 4:57Speaker 3: sustainable product line that will work long enough to allow
- 5:01Speaker 3: you to build a business around it, to be able
- 5:03Speaker 3: to be okay, no, and then weight loss thows after
- 5:08Speaker 3: the two years. So in the best case scenario, after
- 5:11Speaker 3: two years, it's the end of the product cycle. So
- 5:14Speaker 3: the lifetime customer value is lower than every other competitor
- 5:18Speaker 3: that you have for other drugs that are doing incredibly well.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Like literally, is Damnar the n video of healthcare. You're
- 5:25Speaker 3: you're fighting a monster that cannot be defeated.
- 5:28Speaker 1: This might not be one of those situations where number
- 5:30Speaker 1: two is actually they already announced that they're they're trying
- 5:36Speaker 1: to get GLPS to be a part of healthcare plans.
- 5:40Speaker 1: They've already and we talked about this a few weeks ago.
- 5:43Speaker 1: They're dropping the price costs over the first six months.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Must stay right that they're trying to do all the
- 5:49Speaker 1: things I think when you have a pill form, because
- 5:52Speaker 1: that's the thing, right, like who gets to the g
- 5:54Speaker 1: LP pill first? And when you have a pill form
- 6:00Speaker 1: fail for a different drug, well, that puts uh that
- 6:04Speaker 1: red flat. Hey, this is another pill that has failed
- 6:06Speaker 1: for them, that's failed for them, We'll get to it first.
- 6:10Speaker 1: My assumption would probably be literally gets to the pill
- 6:12Speaker 1: form first, and that that changes a lot of things
- 6:14Speaker 1: into and if they can get the right price obviously
- 6:16Speaker 1: put that part of people's healthcare plans. Earners. What's up?
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