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The Kenny Report | 6 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me Australia's disastrous renewable energy transition. I'll
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  Speaker 1: show you how AI backs up my warnings about our
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  Speaker 1: national energy self harm and in related hysteria, climate alarmism,
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  Speaker 1: the Great Barrier Reef and the facts Anthony Albanezi all
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  Speaker 1: but certain to recognize the non existent state of Palestine.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll share with you the wonderful response that you've
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  Speaker 1: given us on support for Israel and the Australian Jewish community.
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  Speaker 1: All that plus eighty years since the Hiroshima atomic bomb
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  Speaker 1: and the Wednesday wrangle with Nika de Giorgio and Justin Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Let me start with what some people like to portray
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  Speaker 1: as terrible news for the environment. It relates to the
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  Speaker 1: Great Barrier Reef, which, like polar bears, I guess, is
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  Speaker 1: often used as the kind of poster child for climate alarmism.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is a thing of beauty, of course,
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  Speaker 1: it's a natural wonder, it's world famous, and surely no
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  Speaker 1: one wants it damaged or destroyed. But the climate alarmists
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  Speaker 1: constantly tell us that the Great Barrier Reef is about
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  Speaker 1: to die. Remember more than a decade ago when the
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  Speaker 1: US President Barack Obama visited Brisbane, and he couldn't help
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  Speaker 1: but undermine the reputation of our wonderful natural asset as
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  Speaker 1: he hyped up the climate threat.
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  Speaker 2: Because I have not had time to go to the
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  Speaker 2: Great Barrier Reef, and I want to come back, and
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  Speaker 2: I want my daughters to be able to come back,
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  Speaker 2: and I want them to be able to bring their
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  Speaker 2: daughters or sons to visit, and.
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  Speaker 1: I want that there fifty years from that. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: the reef's still there, But I don't think anyone's seen
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  Speaker 1: the Obamas. Every year or so, we're told the reef
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  Speaker 1: is on the edge. It's like the tipping points we
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  Speaker 1: keep hearing about for global warm three decades ago, two
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  Speaker 1: decades ago, a decade ago, and now there's always a
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  Speaker 1: tipping point for climate action. Anyway, if you read the
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Morning Herald today, you'd be worried about the reef record.
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  Speaker 1: Coral decline and mass bleaching was the headline as they
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  Speaker 1: focused on global warming, and they reported the latest scientific
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  Speaker 1: assessment of the reef. The paper's climate alarmist in chief
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  Speaker 1: nic O'Malley, told us the reef suffered the largest annual
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  Speaker 1: decline in coral cover in two of the three regions
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  Speaker 1: over thirty nine years of monitoring, and this was due
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  Speaker 1: to climate change induced heat stress causing mass bleaching. Sounds dire,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. And if you look at the ABC's headline
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  Speaker 1: reporting the same data, it cites an ecosystem under stress. Well,
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  Speaker 1: which ecosystem isn't? I would ask? System by definition is
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  Speaker 1: a complex web of competing stresses. But even the ABC, yes,
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  Speaker 1: even the climate catastrophists at the ABC, could not avoid
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  Speaker 1: the central fact of the latest survey, telling us that
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  Speaker 1: while the coral losses were significant, they came off a
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  Speaker 1: high base, with observed coral cover now sitting at near
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  Speaker 1: to long term average levels. So that's the story. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: the reef is actually in normal condition. I mean we've
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  Speaker 1: heard reports of at least six major bleaching events bleaching
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  Speaker 1: events over the past decade, and the reef is still
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  Speaker 1: in good condition. So it's actually a story of natural resilience,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it a natural wonder doing what it's done for millennia,
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  Speaker 1: weathering the storms and thriving. And sure enough in the
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  Speaker 1: Australian we heard from reef expert Professor Peter Ridd, who
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  Speaker 1: lost his job at a university because he wouldn't bend
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  Speaker 1: to the climate alarmism zeitgeist. Sticking to the facts, rid
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  Speaker 1: told us that the normalized coral cover dropped from a
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  Speaker 1: record high number, but there is still twice as much
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  Speaker 1: coral as in twenty twelve. The raw coral cover number
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  Speaker 1: for all of the last five years has been higher
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  Speaker 1: than any of the previous years since records began in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. Worth repeating that, isn't it The coral
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  Speaker 1: cover of the Great Barrier Reef now and over the
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  Speaker 1: past five years is better than at any time over
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  Speaker 1: four decades of monitoring since before the global warming scare
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  Speaker 1: was cranked up. That is unashamedly good news. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to look after it to be sure, but the reef
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  Speaker 1: is doing just fine at the moment, which means Barack
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  Speaker 1: Obama and his family still get the chance to see
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  Speaker 1: it if they could ever bother to getting around to it.
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  Speaker 1: The latest thought bubble, released ahead of the Economic Forum
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  Speaker 1: around table, that is, the New and Higher Taxes Summit,
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  Speaker 1: relates to artificial intelligence. Now when it comes to Canberra,
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  Speaker 1: most of us would take any intelligence we could get
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  Speaker 1: but we've got to be cautious about the way Big
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  Speaker 1: Digital is pushing the interests of AI, and they don't
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  Speaker 1: seem to be getting much resistance from the Albanesi Labor government.
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  Speaker 1: There's a suggestion that AI should be able to skip
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  Speaker 1: Australia's copyright laws and hoover up all the information written, composed, printed,
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  Speaker 1: and broadcast to feed its thirst for information, facts and content.
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  Speaker 3: The only way to make our people and workers and
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  Speaker 3: industries beneficiaries is if we treat AI as an enabler,
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  Speaker 3: not an enemy of what we want to see in
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  Speaker 3: our economy.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but while AI is only ever going to be
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  Speaker 1: as good as the data that sustains it, it can't
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  Speaker 1: be expected to get that data pull together other people's
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  Speaker 1: data without paying for it. I mean, think about major
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  Speaker 1: media organizations that spend a fortune training and employing journalists
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  Speaker 1: and producers, technicians and editors to produce newspapers, websites, television
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  Speaker 1: programs and the like. The government's already struggling over the
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  Speaker 1: issue of forcing the social media giants to share some
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  Speaker 1: of the money they raise by spreading that content far
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  Speaker 1: and wide. Yet now we face the prospect of AI
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  Speaker 1: being able to use this information too, for free. It's
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  Speaker 1: not reasonable that the media companies employing people to get
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  Speaker 1: information and publish it should be doing that just so
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  Speaker 1: that everyone else can make money from it except them themselves.
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  Speaker 4: The opposition is wearing we have to protect people, we
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  Speaker 4: have to protect content creators, and I don't see that
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  Speaker 4: as very wishy washy language coming from this government this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the digital giants are doing well enough
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  Speaker 1: at the moment that they can resist plundering other people's
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  Speaker 1: intellectual property without paying for it. Now, just on AI
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  Speaker 1: because it was in the news today, I thought i'd
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  Speaker 1: test it out on one particular topic. I wondered how
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  Speaker 1: factual it is when it comes to the so called
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  Speaker 1: energy transition. Could we trust it to give us the facts?
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  Speaker 1: So I started off asking chat GPT whether Australia getting
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  Speaker 1: to net zero by twenty fifty was achievable, and I've
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  Speaker 1: got to say, just like most of the media and
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  Speaker 1: most politicians, it came back initially with more spin than facts,
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  Speaker 1: more aspiration than reality. It gave me a list of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons it's possible. You know, lots of solar and
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  Speaker 1: wind resources, which is just their jargon of course for
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  Speaker 1: sunshine and wind. It talked about the technology getting better
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  Speaker 1: all the time, and it even sprout the potential for
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  Speaker 1: green energy jobs, just like Chris Bowen. And then it
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  Speaker 1: cited the fact that governments and businesses are committed to
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  Speaker 1: achieving net zero. We know, we know now artificial or otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't a very intelligent response, that is, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the usual spin. So I punched in more questions contesting
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  Speaker 1: this spin from AI, and the results were immediately quite encouraging.
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  Speaker 1: It recognized I was right to be skeptical, but it
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  Speaker 1: said net zero was technically possible. It conceded too crucial
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  Speaker 1: points no one had built a renewable grid without back
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  Speaker 1: and that renewables grids would all need coal, gas or
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  Speaker 1: nuclear backup. But it argued that any fossil fuels used
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  Speaker 1: for backing up a renewable grid could be offset in
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  Speaker 1: other ways, so you'd still possibly get to net zero. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so if you ask the right questions, AI will start
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  Speaker 1: to give you factual answers on this stuff. It's a
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  Speaker 1: bit like in the viewing a green left politician, except
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  Speaker 1: you do eventually get to the truth with AI. So
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  Speaker 1: I persisted, and I got this apparently honest summary. It
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  Speaker 1: said it was fundamentally right. He said that I was
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  Speaker 1: fundamentally right in my questioning of its assumptions Australia is
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  Speaker 1: imposing significant costs on itself with minimal direct environmental benefit
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  Speaker 1: and only speculative economic upside. Was the conclusion that that's
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  Speaker 1: the conclusion I got from CHATCHTP. And then it was
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  Speaker 1: reduced to saying that strategic arguments about possible economic benefits
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  Speaker 1: for early movers, and it was only speculation that laggards
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  Speaker 1: would be punished economically, and it agreed that any benefits
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  Speaker 1: are not guaranteed, only that governments and businesses view in
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  Speaker 1: action as a greater long term risk. Yeah, the chatbot
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  Speaker 1: was giving ground fast. I responded by asking why it
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  Speaker 1: was feeding the arguments and aspirations instead of cold hard facts,
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  Speaker 1: and eventually we were getting somewhere. It said, I was
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  Speaker 1: asking the right questions, and it admitted that much of
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  Speaker 1: the case for Australia's transition is based on projected benefits
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  Speaker 1: political optics and climate diplomacy, not clear proven economic gain. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: there's some artificial intelligence honesty. It said. The public deserves realism,
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  Speaker 1: not marketing, stressing the transition will cost money, create disruption,
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  Speaker 1: and may not deliver meaningful climate impact unless other nations
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  Speaker 1: act too. If net zero is to be a long
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  Speaker 1: term economic strategy, it needs clear evidence, not just slogans.
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  Speaker 1: That's not me talking, that's chat GTP. I was starting
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  Speaker 1: to think this was the most satisfying question and answer
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  Speaker 1: session I've ever had, And in the end I still
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  Speaker 1: questioned the aspirations and the political spin it was regurgitating
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  Speaker 1: in its answers as part of its answers, and it
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  Speaker 1: gave me this final summary, a final summary with no
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  Speaker 1: caveats and no spin. That was its title. That's how
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  Speaker 1: it summed it up. Will the transition deliver affordable power? No,
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  Speaker 1: power is more expensive. Will it deliver reliable power?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Reliability is worse in some regions. I would say all regions,
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  Speaker 1: it says some. Will it help the economy, No, it
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  Speaker 1: is hurting key sectors and competitiveness. Will it improve the climate, No,
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  Speaker 1: The impact is globally negligible. That's it. Everything I've been
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  Speaker 1: saying about the renewable energy transition here for years, more
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  Speaker 1: than a decade even, is confirmed by the awesome fact
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  Speaker 1: based reasoning of artificial intelligence. The facts on this argument
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  Speaker 1: all favor my case, and they all stack up against
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  Speaker 1: what the government is doing to us in its national
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  Speaker 1: energy self harm. It must be time to switch out
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  Speaker 1: Chris Bowen for Chatji. Now, another clear signal from the
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  Speaker 1: Albanese Labor government today that it intends to recognize the
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  Speaker 1: non existent, ill defined, unresolved, unclear and ungoverned sovereign state
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  Speaker 1: of Palestine later this year. Now, let's be clear, this
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  Speaker 1: will do nothing for peace. It won't advance the Palestinian
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  Speaker 1: cause at all. In fact, it will only embolden the
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  Speaker 1: terrorist groups like hum Us and possibly even encourage Israel
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  Speaker 1: to fully annex Gaza and the West Bank. It is
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  Speaker 1: pathetic posturing by politicians who are not directly involved, but
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  Speaker 1: we want to make it look like they're doing something
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  Speaker 1: when in fact they don't have the backbone to do
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  Speaker 1: what's needed, and that is support Israel in rooting out Hummus. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we heard today that Anthony Albanesi is going to turn
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  Speaker 1: up in New York for the United Nations Assembly next month,
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  Speaker 1: which is a clear sign he'll vote for statehood on
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  Speaker 1: behalf of Australia. And he this comes after he had
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  Speaker 1: a phone conversation with the French President Emmanuel Macron overnight.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the Treasurer.
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  Speaker 3: There has been a lot of progress and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of momentum behind efforts to recognize a Palestinian state. I've
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  Speaker 3: said before to all of you that we consider that
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  Speaker 3: to be a matter of when, not if. One of
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  Speaker 3: the most important things that we've been doing. I salute
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  Speaker 3: Penny Wong and the Prime Minister and others for this
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  Speaker 3: is engaging with other like minded countries. And the conversation
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  Speaker 3: that Prime Minister Albaniz he had with President Macron overnight
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  Speaker 3: is another important part of that effort.
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  Speaker 1: What a hopeless bunch, and never forget that, by their
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  Speaker 1: own admission, there's virtue signiggling. This virtue signaling diplomacy that
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  Speaker 1: they're getting involved in has been triggered in large part
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  Speaker 1: by what they I've seen on television, No firsthand visits,
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  Speaker 1: no real intel, just reacting to media coverage and actually
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  Speaker 1: reacting to the public's response to the media coverage.
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  Speaker 5: The images that we've seen. It's not surprising that so
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  Speaker 5: many Australians have been affected in order to want to
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  Speaker 5: show their concern at people being deprived of food and
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  Speaker 5: water and essential services.
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  Speaker 1: But as I've shown you before many times. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the images that Albinizi and others have reacted to have
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  Speaker 1: been misleading, deliberately deceptive, purporting to show a starving child,
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  Speaker 1: when in fact they are showing a poor little one
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  Speaker 1: year old boy suffering from a range of congenital diseases,
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  Speaker 1: including cerebral palsy. So while the suffering is real and true, Mattic,
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  Speaker 1: the media coverage trying to convince the world that Israel
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  Speaker 1: is starving Gazans has been blatant propaganda. Wider photos revealed
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  Speaker 1: by other media showed little Mohammad al Matuk's mother and
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  Speaker 1: older brother were clearly not starving. And today we can
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  Speaker 1: show you another example of this manipulation propaganda orchestrated by
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  Speaker 1: Humas and run right around the world. Many of you
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  Speaker 1: would have seen these images run on television, on websites,
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  Speaker 1: on social media, showing what is presented as starving children
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  Speaker 1: clambering for insufficient supplies of food. Still, images of the
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  Speaker 1: same event have been widely published too. It all seems incontrovertible,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean, pictures can't lie, can they. But
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  Speaker 1: a German newspaper has exposed wider photos that show the context.
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  Speaker 1: Here you see the photographers organized in a prime position,
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  Speaker 1: pres organized by humm Us. No food is being served,
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  Speaker 1: but rather what looks like an orchestrated picture opportunity. You
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  Speaker 1: can see the same children, the same utensils, in the
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  Speaker 1: same places, only in reality, they're not clambering, they're not distressed,
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  Speaker 1: they're not starving. That presumably was an act for the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: So you can't believe everything you see, especially when it
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  Speaker 1: comes out of Gaza, where Hummus is still in control,
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  Speaker 1: and the only media information, images and interviews that come
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  Speaker 1: out of Gaza are controlled in the end by Hummus,
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  Speaker 1: a bloodthirsty Islamist extremist terrorist organization that obviously can't be trusted.
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  Speaker 1: If they can slaughter babies, if they can kidnap, rape
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  Speaker 1: and murder innocent young women, that hardly balk its staging
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  Speaker 1: the odd misleading photo. Let's go to One Nation leader
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  Speaker 1: and founder Pauline Hanson joining us from Queensland. Pauline first up,
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  Speaker 1: It seems clear Anthony Alberanezi is going to recognize Palestine.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think he has any mandate from the public
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  Speaker 1: to do this? He seems to think that the few
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  Speaker 1: people marching on the bridge of ninety thousand people marching
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  Speaker 1: on the bridge is the popular view in Australia.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with you, Chris. He's always had that leaning
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  Speaker 6: towards you know, Palestine, and he's been a bleeding bloody
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  Speaker 6: heart for years without really looking at the true facts
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  Speaker 6: behind it. And to actually give them the one state
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  Speaker 6: or declare them as a state, I think it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: You know, where's Israel. Why aren't they being asked how
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  Speaker 6: they feel about this? And to say that the kids
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  Speaker 6: are starving, people are starving when actually Israel Nahu has
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  Speaker 6: actually said they've sent him two million tons of food already.
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  Speaker 6: This is supposed to be their enemy. These are supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be the people that't want to see the death
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  Speaker 6: of them, and it's genocide where they're overlooking and making
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  Speaker 6: sure that food gets in there, and they denied the
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  Speaker 6: Israeli is to actually act as protection to make sure
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  Speaker 6: the food got there. But the Masks are actually taking
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  Speaker 6: the food selling it on the black market. They're going
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  Speaker 6: to use their own people as pawns in all this
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  Speaker 6: for their own gain what they want. They are a
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  Speaker 6: terrorist organization. You cannot give them the authority of having
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  Speaker 6: a state, and my understanding, Chris, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 6: They've applied for it four times already to be a state.
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  Speaker 6: They have commented they don't want it unless they can
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  Speaker 6: actually move into Israel. They want to take it over,
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  Speaker 6: destroy Israel. It is not going to work. This is
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  Speaker 6: where Alban Easy is so pathetic and going along with
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  Speaker 6: mccron and the Canadians and the UK President all the
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  Speaker 6: rest of it a bunch of bleeding hearts that are
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  Speaker 6: not looking at the true facts and how to actually
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  Speaker 6: deal with this situation. And disregarding Israel. We have no
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  Speaker 6: place in that saying this. Where is Israel and where
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  Speaker 6: is there saying this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shocking turn of events. And of course
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  Speaker 1: every time a two state solution has been profered to
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  Speaker 1: the Palestinian authority, they've rejected it. So here we go again.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whether you've got to see my little
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  Speaker 1: exchange with chat GTP GPT on our renewable energy transition,
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  Speaker 1: but it just confirmed the facts that you and I
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  Speaker 1: and most Australians know that is the renewable transition is
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  Speaker 1: undermining reliability, pushing prices up and will not benefit the
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  Speaker 1: global climate. One Iota Chris.
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  Speaker 6: I've been talking about this for years and actually the
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  Speaker 6: research that I've had and listening to Malcolm Roberts, who
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  Speaker 6: has the credentials to actually talk with authority on this,
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  Speaker 6: he's been studying it for years, even before he got
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  Speaker 6: into parliament. It's been an absolute scam. Why the hell
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  Speaker 6: are we given carbon credits for land that we're already
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  Speaker 6: under trees and there. Why are we offsetting our carbon
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  Speaker 6: emissions when we are we have the resources there, but
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  Speaker 6: we're actually paying people to offset again, it's ridiculous. I'm
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  Speaker 6: actually doing research into this as well at the moment
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  Speaker 6: and to put forward to policy. What I've found out
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  Speaker 6: today is in twenty three twenty four, fourteen hundred manufacturing
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  Speaker 6: companies became insolvent. That's apart from the thirty thousand small
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  Speaker 6: businesses that have also went under. So this is destroying industries.
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  Speaker 6: And I've said this all along, it's nothing but a scam.
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  Speaker 6: The true facts and figures need to come out. But
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  Speaker 6: people need to wake up out there and listen to
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  Speaker 6: what it's being told and tell me where have the
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  Speaker 6: ocean's risen to actually flood the coastline? Why do we
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  Speaker 6: have those people who are still buying properties on the
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  Speaker 6: ocean fronts. You know, tell me that if they think
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  Speaker 6: the world's coming to an end. And Flannery, don't get
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  Speaker 6: me started on here.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me started on Flannery. Yeah, we'll keep showing
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  Speaker 1: those grabs of him saying it'll never rain again. We
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  Speaker 1: never should tire of showing it quickly. One other topic
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  Speaker 1: to get you've got to get your thoughts on the
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  Speaker 1: announcement this week that the government's going to increase the
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  Speaker 1: student overseas student intake by twenty five thousand people. This
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  Speaker 1: is the same government that earlier this year before the election,
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  Speaker 1: said it was going to reduce immigration.
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  Speaker 6: It won't work, you know, they won't do it because
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  Speaker 6: they're going to increase the numbers. Apart from the students
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: come and increase, you've got all their families and they
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: can bring them out as well, so that's extra to
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: the country. These foreign students export around about in the
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: twenty three twenty four figures about ten billion plus I've
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: read even thirteen billion plus, and money that they make
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: here they send back to their own country, such money
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: we're losing here as well. They take up about forty
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: percent of the accommodation the cities in Sydney and Melbourne,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: so they are not an asset to us, and a
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: lot of them, the foreign students get abns. They are
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: actually working jobs that they don't clean the tax they make,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: and they're actually out here scamming the system to make
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: money send back home. It is there here for educational purposes.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm certain we'll come back to this population debate. Thanks
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: for joining us, Pauline. I appreciate it. Paula enhancing their
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: lives from Queensland. I got to get to a break
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: on the other side of it. I'm looking forward to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: sharing with you the wonderful response that you've given us
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: on support for Israel and the Australian Jewish community. Now
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a follow up to what I've been saying about anti
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Semitism in this country. The abhorrent nature of those weekend
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: protests against Israel, Protests that shouted death to the IDF,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: burned the Australian flag, involved Islamist extremist hate preachers, saw
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: terrorist leaders, lauded, terrorist flags waived, and yet were presented
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to the rest of the country by the media and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: by the Prime Minister as peaceful. Really, when was the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: last time you saw a peaceful protest chant for death?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: When did you see a peaceful protest that endorsed terrorism
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and involved people who celebrated the slaughter of innocent men,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: women and children? Just repugnant? And I wondered what I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: could do, what we could do to counter this hatred,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to counter this misconception. And look, we'll do more, We'll
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: think of other things. But first up, I just thought
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: we'd offer you the opportunity to share your views, to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: communicate through us to the broader Australian community and to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the Jewish Australian community who were being attacked and intimidated
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: in the most shameful way in this country, in ways
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I never thought possible. So I gave you this email
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: address last night, Kenny Report at skynews dot com dot au,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and I invited your thoughts well pleasingly, the emails came
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in a thicken fast immediately. Thank you so much. Hundreds
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: upon hundreds of emails have come into that address, so
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: many that I haven't been able to read all of
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: them yet, but let me share a sample. Hi, Chris,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: please pass on my support for the Jewish community. I'm
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: both dismayed and ashamed of the road that so many
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: are taking. That's from Barbara. I fully support Israel and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: their fight against islamus I hope they govern Gaza, says Brian.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: We won't share surnames on the program, but let me
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: tell you that these emails came from all around the country.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: The Palestinians were never a state, but were given an
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: undeserved land Gaza in two thousand and seven by Israel,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and instead of working to make it prosperous, they've caused
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it to be utterly destroyed, says Peter. Josephine said please
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: send lots of love and support, and Ian said he
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: supports Israel's right to bring home the hostages, while Chris
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: said he's it's totally appalled at our government not stopping
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: this march. He feels like the governments no longer work
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for our Australia, and Vicki writes Hi, Chris, I want
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: to let the Jewish Australians know that they are not alone.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: The radical lefties who say they represent Australians could not
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: be further from the truth of the matter. Our PM
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and his cabinet are to be held to account on
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the atrocious manner in which they've enabled some to act.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Keep the strength and know that some are doing the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: best to support you and ride out the next three years.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Well said Vicky. Here's another Hi, Chris, I certainly don't
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: support those single minded fools who march last Sunday against Israel.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I have many Jewish friends and can't believe that people
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: don't remember who started the conflict and who can end
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: it tomorrow by releasing the hostages and surrendering. That's from Peter.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And there's this email regarding the march as one can
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: only look at this with disbelief. Our treason, ABC Broadcast Networks,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: media outlets, and our education system have actively supported these
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: marches against Israel. We must ask who initiated the conflict,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: who refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist or engage
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: in peace talks. Who's turned hospitals and schools into human
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: shields and diverted international aid towards building weapons rather than
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: helping their people. The answer is humm us, it's shameful
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: that we're supporting Islamic terror groups. We stand with Israel,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and that's from Jerry. Thank you, Jerry, and thank you
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to everyone else. Some of you could write my editorials
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: for me each night, Lynn wrote, I'm all for what
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Israel is trying to do. They have to get the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: hostages back and destroy humm Us. Go Israel. To the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Jewish people in Australia. This family from Brisbane want you
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to know we support you. Our shame at having a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: PM who has betrayed you, and the awful sight of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: people marching on the iconic Sydney Harbor Bridge with such
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: hatred in their hearts has horrified us. Just know that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: there are many like us who would gladly walk the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: bridge in support of you and the hostages. Blessings from
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: R and G. They're obviously in Brisbane. And I'll make
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: this next one the last one. It's from Elijah, an
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Indian Hindu who's a Christian convert. He says it breaks
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: his heart to be witnessing this in Australia. We unequivocally
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: are in support of Israel and Australia we stand with Israel,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and so does the entire Christian community. As you pointed out,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: if only Christians would do a silent march, we would
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: outnumber the recent protest. Hoping and praying that we would
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: march in support, that we could march in the support
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of Israel. We don't hate any people or race, but
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: certainly are against Humas and their values. It's one sided.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks again for your support in the media and speaking
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: out much regards and blessings from a lie Well, that
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is but a mere sample, a tiny sample of the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: emails that we've received. It is very heartening and I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: want to go to community activist Jewish community activist Marty
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Perstin now for a reaction. Thanks for joining us again, Marny.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I know it's seen such a difficult time it continues
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: to be for the Jewish community. But seeing that support,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: knowing there's that widespread support out there, surely that is heartening.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: Chris, I actually feel emotional hearing those messages. I'm not
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: going to line that our community has felt so lown
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: and really scared and somewhere between scared and depressed. So
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: to hear messages like that and to know that they
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: came in their hundreds is really incredible and gives me
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: some faith that Australians really do understand that this is
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: not just an issue about the Jewish community, but it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: really an issue about Australian values and the erosion of
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Australian values and I hope that everybody that sent a message,
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: if they have a friend or family member who was
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: on the Harbor Bridge on Sunday, that they can explain
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: to those people what those isis flags and what the
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: Taliban flags and the photos of the Ayatola really mean.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: So thank you Chris for those messages. It's it will
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: do a lot for our community.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: When you understand the nature of their protests. And I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: not smearing everybody who went there. There be there will
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: be useful idiots if you liked people who just thought
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: they're marching to stop a war, not knowing that they're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: marching alongside hate preachers and people are going to be
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: waving terrorist flags. But when we saw those things unfold
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and we had the flag of the Ayatola over around
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: his poster around the place, we had people charting death
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: death to the IDF. Yet the Prime Minister described it
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: as peaceful. That is alarming, isn't it.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: It's a arming and it's almost laughable. Obviously, the march
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: was sold to the Supreme Court as a march for humanity,
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: but I have to say that the government and the
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: police force must have known that it was never going
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: to be a real march for a march for humanity,
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: because a march for humanity could have included the Jewish
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: community of Australia or of Sydney, and we could have
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: marched together. But let me do We could have been
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: advocating for the Palestinians and the Israeli hostages at the
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: same time. But the Jewish community was told to stay home.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: We were told to stay home for our own safety,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: and therefore there was a feeling that this march could
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: be violent and aggressive. It was never a much for humanity.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: It was always an anti Israel march, as was evidenced
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: by what people could.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: See on that bridge.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: And the real catastrophe is that it was not ideologically
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: peace at all. Just because no one was physically injured
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: does not mean it was a peaceful march. And I
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: would say that the true tragedy of that march is
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: that most people on that bridge may not have even
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: been aware of what they were really marching for and
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: where this country is really heading. It was literally, it
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: was a literal bridge that our community had to march
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: to get one step closer to us becoming entrenched in
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: very dangerous ideology and I thought the whole thing was.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Really scary, Well said Money. Apologies for trying to interrupt.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure you got to that point
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and you did. Anyway, that Jewish Australians were warned away
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: just a terrible indictment of what unfolded. Thanks so much
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: for joining us again. I appreciate it. That's Maney Perlstein,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: whose community activist in the Jewish community in Sydney. Jewish
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Australians were warned away, some of them who have regular
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: visuals for hostages at Circular Key warned away because of
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: this peaceful march. Much for humanity. Give me a break.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Israel now and catch up again with
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Gerald Steinberg's the professor of politics at bar Elin University.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again. Gerald. The news that might
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: not be big news in Israel as yet, but it
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: is certainly dominant here. It seems very clear that our
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: labor government is about to join with the French and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the UK and others and recognize Palestine as a state
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: next month of the UN General Assembly. What difference will
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that make when it comes to the peace process and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the path forward.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: Will make almost no difference, you know, Manu Martcron in
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: France has almost no government. He's in very deep political problems.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: There to be deep political crisis, so he's looking for attention.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: He's looking for something international. Israel the Middle East is
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: always a good one to do, so that helps him politically.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: And then you have this mass hysteria.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: You have key.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: Steiner in the UK, you have for the Canadian Prime
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Minister of Marcaroni, and now you have Albany in Australia
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: and others joining this bandwagon. And it's quite clear that
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: none of them have any idea what they're doing. You're recognizing,
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: they're recognizing, they say, they're recognizing a non existent Palestinian state,
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: a state which is sort of run by a corrupt
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: organization called the Palestinian Authority, which is really the PLO
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: and the FATA organization of Fata militia that was thrown
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: out of Gaza by Hamas. These are all tribal conflicts,
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: tribal not in the sense of necessarily ethnic tribes, but
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: tribal in the sense of within the Palestinian society, different organizations,
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: and they're not interested in running a government. If they were,
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: they would have already been able to have an agreement
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: with Israel.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: So all of.
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: These international leaders are just putting for slogans to be
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: able to say to their constituencies, to get headlines in
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: the media, we're doing something, but in fact, what they're
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: really doing is creating adding to the chaos that already exists.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I want to show you something that our Foreign Minister,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Penny Wong said yesterday. My analysis of this was that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: it was the sort of thing we would expect to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: hear from a radical activist rather than a foreign minister,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and it was intent on demonizing Israel. Have a listen.
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: Everybody understands that there is a risk there will be
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: no Palestine left to recognize unless the international community work
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: together towards two states.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Gerald there'll be no Palestine left if this doesn't happen.
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: These are slogans that many political leaders around the world
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: are now adopting, and it really shows very shallow understanding
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: of the history of the reality. There are four or
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: five million Palestinians, people who identify themselves as Palestinian Arabs,
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: and it's important to understand that the term Palestine came
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: about roughly two thousand years ago, where the Romans used
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: that term in order to destroy or to remove erase
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: the history of the Jewish people. And then it was
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: basically rekindled by the British back in around nineteen seventeen
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: during the Mandate period when these were all foreign occupiers,
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: these Palestinian Arabs. There are Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: at the time. And now the world has this concept
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: of Palestinians of a Palestine that never existed as an
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: independent Arab state of any kind, and they themselves don't
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: want an independent state. What majority of Palestinians, certainly the
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: political leaders, whether it's Kamas or whether it's Mahmudabas from
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: the PLO and from the Fatah organization, what they want
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: to do is see the end of Israel, and that
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: has been the goal since nineteen forty seven. And when
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: you have people like Penny Wang, who clearly has no
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: depth or understanding of the history and no real interest
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: in all the millions of people who live in this area.
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: So she repeats these lines which are fed to her,
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: that are echoed among many other political leaders, very similar
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: shallow understanding to absolutely nowhere, it's not going to make
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: any difference to Israelis, to Israeli government policy still finding
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: a very bitter terror war. We have to remove Commas's
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: ability not just to have another October seventh massacre and
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: atrocities that were so horrible. They're still firing rockets at
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: Israel because they line Gaza, and that's the important thing
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: to understand. The reality. Gaza still has kilometers filled with
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: terror tunnels where hostages are being kept, where terrorists live
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: and eat well, and where there are still hundreds, if
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: not thousands of rockets. And as soon as there's just ceasefire,
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: those rockets will be aimed at as rockets. We've seen
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: this over and over again for the last twenty.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Years were having. That's what people like any.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Wong and be your Prime Minister need to understand and
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: forget all those slogans that they're fed by, whether it's
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: the Foreign Office or whether it's from international sources.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: In the meeting they choose, they choose to remain ignorant
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to Sadley, Thanks so much for joining us. Jord'll keep
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in touched. Gerald Steinberg there from the Barilan University in Israel,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: where running over time, we're going to get to a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: break on the other side. Eighty years since the Hiroshima
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: atomic bomb will cross to Japan. It's an historically significant
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: anniversary today. It's eighty years since the United States detonated
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: an atomic bomb over Hiroshima, heralding the end of the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Second World War just days later. Here's a look back
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: at what happened.
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: If Germany defeated and Hitler dead, Japan held firm, and
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: the war continued in the Pacific until the United States
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: dropped atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, forcing their surrender.
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: A shark time ago, an American aeroplane dropped one bomb
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: on Hiroshima and destroyed its usefulness to the enemy barm
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: has more power than twenty thousand tons of TNT.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Let's cross to Japan now and catch up with our
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Asia correspondent Stash Butler, who's in Hiroshima for today's commemorations.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Great to talk to, Yustasha. I was in Hiroshima are
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: probably nearly two decades ago. Such a beautiful and peaceful city,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: but of course, especially today, the commemorations, the memories very stark.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Talk us through what you've experienced.
• 39:32
  Speaker 12: That's right, Chris, Yeah, there's certainly a really solemn moment
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: here in Hiroshima. I think a long day for a
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: lot of people involved, beginning very early and then building
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: to that ceremony at eight am, where fifty thousand people attended,
• 39:47
  Speaker 12: including delegates from over one hundred countries, all there to
• 39:51
  Speaker 12: hear and witness survivors paying testament, to laying flowers at
• 39:57
  Speaker 12: the memorial to the one hundred and forty thousand and
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: or so victims of the bombing that really you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: killed instantly, seventy thousand people left, seventy thousand more to
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: more long and painful deaths in some ways, and this
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: really has defined the city, I think to this day.
• 40:14
  Speaker 12: Japan's Prime Minister was at the ceremony and he reiterated
• 40:17
  Speaker 12: Japan's long standing call, based on the memories of that bombing,
• 40:22
  Speaker 12: that Japan should be the country that leads the world
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: towards a nuclear free future.
• 40:28
  Speaker 13: Leading the international community's efforts for a world without nuclear
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: weapons while adhering to the three non nuclear Principles. Is
• 40:35
  Speaker 13: the mission of Japan, which is the only country that
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: has been exposed to atomic bomb explosives.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, words there against the nuclear weapons. Let's hope that
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: work continues. This comes at a fascinating time in the Australia,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Japan relationship because of course we were at war with
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Japan back in the Second World War, we had some
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of our soldiers there as an occupying force after Hiroshima
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and Nagasaki. Yet now we're such close economic partners, are
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: becoming increasingly close when it comes to security issues, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: we're going to be buying our next lot of warships
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: from Japan, manufactured just down the road at Nagasaki. It's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: an incredible turn of events given the history.
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: That's right, Chris, and I think you know the significance
• 41:22
  Speaker 12: for Japan. Obviously, this is the biggest foreign military sale
• 41:26
  Speaker 12: they've made since since twenty fourteen when Shinzo ab the
• 41:30
  Speaker 12: form of Japanese Prime Minister is the kind of de
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: facto rules that are in place effectively prohibiting foreign military
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: sales of any kind, and that ten billion Australian dollars
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: will certainly, you know, be a big boost to Japan's
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: domestic defense industry. But also I think it signals, yes,
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: you said, the kind of growing ties between Japan and Australia,
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: you know, seeing eye to eye on things like China's
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: rapidly growing military. But you know, this is really demonstrating
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: I think to other people in the region. The depths
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: of those ties that they're not just limited to words,
• 42:06
  Speaker 12: but also backed up by by things like that great stuff.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Stash, thanks so much for joining us, Stash Butler. They're
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: live from Hiroshima on this crucial day. Hiroshima, I should say,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and let me praise label. We haven't talked much about
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: that frigate deal. It's a very good decision now and
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: then they get something right. And one of the reasons
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it's a good deal is because China will not like it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: coming up, well, the Wednesday Wrangle with Danika de Giorgio
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  Speaker 1: and Justin Smith. Don't go away. Well, look at Chris
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  Speaker 1: Bowen's latest antics. Let's get into the Wednesday Wrangle now
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  Speaker 1: with Danika de Georgio on the desk. Here with me
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  Speaker 1: and Justin Smith. Columbus and Broadcast are joining us from
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  Speaker 1: the wonderful city of Melbourne. Guys, I've got to show
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  Speaker 1: you the latest from Chris Bowen. He's worried about climate change.
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  Speaker 1: This is the latest effort on the Instagram.
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  Speaker 14: I walk around the suburbs that I live in and represent.
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  Speaker 14: It's not true one that climate change is in inner
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  Speaker 14: city obsession. You know, I said, a lot of electric.
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  Speaker 1: Vehicles where I live, and you know, a lot.
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  Speaker 14: Of a lot of a lot of cultural groups come
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  Speaker 14: talk to me about climate changes in situ. But is
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  Speaker 14: also where we've got so much at stake. Situents living
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  Speaker 14: in apartments without air conditioning. You know, it gets hotter
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  Speaker 14: and hotter. Kids trying to do the HC and swater
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  Speaker 14: and heat elderly people. Not much tree cover in many
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  Speaker 14: parts of these people is there's a lot of stacker
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  Speaker 14: climate change for people who rely on labor governments.
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  Speaker 1: It cracks me up to firstually it's hot in the
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  Speaker 1: sun because there's no trees, Well guess what the rest
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  Speaker 1: of us do? We plant trees, plant trees, and if
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  Speaker 1: it's hot with no air conditioners, well we'd use our
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  Speaker 1: bloody a conditions if you hadn't made power so experiensive.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, do you remember in Sydney a couple of years
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  Speaker 15: ago when we were told to turn off our air
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  Speaker 15: conditions there was enough for energy to go around. Look,
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  Speaker 15: that bloke is a complete megalomaniac, is it? He has
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  Speaker 15: got tabs on himself. For somebody who thinks so highly
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  Speaker 15: of themselves, he is spectacular average. That whole curated Instagram video.
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  Speaker 15: The reality is, Chris, how many green energy projects have
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  Speaker 15: failed in the past few months. I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 15: but I have lost count. And this bloke's putting out
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  Speaker 15: videos like that thinking everything's all peachy, everything is absolutely fine.
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  Speaker 15: Hey Chris, it's not. Okay, okay, it's not That is
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  Speaker 15: the problem. And I just feel like he thinks it's
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  Speaker 15: a big joke.
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  Speaker 1: He is a ripper. You got the case for Chris Bowen,
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  Speaker 1: have you justin? Oh?
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  Speaker 9: Thanks mate, I appreciate that very much.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 9: I would have a look at the politicians who have
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  Speaker 9: lost elections for going against climate change. I would say
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  Speaker 9: that unfortunately you two and I'm not here to stick
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  Speaker 9: up for Chris Bowen, but you too are on the
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  Speaker 9: losing side. The guy that you backed decided to put
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  Speaker 9: up nuclear power without having any plan at all, and
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  Speaker 9: he lost the election. I think we've roundly seen in
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  Speaker 9: state elections and in the federal election that people actually
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  Speaker 9: do care about climate change. So laugh at up if
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  Speaker 9: you will, And I would say that if you if
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  Speaker 9: you want to stay on the losing side, keep laughing.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I think the facts are what matter. And
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  Speaker 1: as I showed at the top. When I went through
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  Speaker 1: the chat GPT, it tells me that the transition is
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  Speaker 1: making electricity more expensive, it is making it more unreliable,
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  Speaker 1: it is hurting our economy and it won't improve the environment.
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  Speaker 1: So that's it. Game set match, isn't it?
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  Speaker 15: What about the power bills?
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  Speaker 1: Justin? Is that game setting match? Well?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, Well, what's your plan, Danik, what's your what's your
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  Speaker 9: plan for the future?
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  Speaker 1: Then we never have any renewal we need. What do
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  Speaker 1: we do?
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  Speaker 9: Just keep and keep using clothes?
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  Speaker 15: No, justin, what we need is cheap, reliable energy, and
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  Speaker 15: this is why nuclear has.
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  Speaker 9: Been Okay, is well your plan to be cheap.
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  Speaker 15: And reliable, both of those things. Yet here in Australia
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  Speaker 15: we are floundering on this pipe dream, this magic carpet
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  Speaker 15: right of renewables only energy. No, it's never been done
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  Speaker 15: nowhere else in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's some of the giant e.
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  Speaker 9: This is this is a this is a stupid and
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  Speaker 9: childish argument here. Anybody who believes in climate change and
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  Speaker 9: believes that something needs to be done about it doesn't
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  Speaker 9: want to see electricity prices come up.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of bloody are of course we don't want that.
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  Speaker 9: Nuclear power it's not about too that I don't believe
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  Speaker 9: in ruling out nuclear power. That I don't believe in
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  Speaker 9: ruling it out completely either. I think it needs to
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  Speaker 9: be looked at properly. But but Heata Dutton was too
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  Speaker 9: afraid to let people have a look at it properly.
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  Speaker 9: And that's the current state of nuclear power.
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  Speaker 1: And that's politics about that, that's politics. We've got to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the substance what needs to happen. And bringing
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  Speaker 1: in climate change is ridiculous because we know whatever happens
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  Speaker 1: in Australia, you change in climate. So it's well, because
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  Speaker 1: he's wreckoninged the country, mate, and he's talking nonsense. I'd
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  Speaker 1: love to keep going with this, but I'm afraid of
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  Speaker 1: running out of time, and I want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that we all get to see this. This is from
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  Speaker 1: the United States. It involves that man, the leader of
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  Speaker 1: the free world, Donald Trump, and here in Prince House,
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  Speaker 1: in the Orange Prince. Just when you think you've seen
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  Speaker 1: everything from Donald today, he's turned up for no apparent reason,
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  Speaker 1: on the roof of the White House. Have a look.
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  Speaker 1: Take it a little book.
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  Speaker 8: Always to spend my money, well.
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  Speaker 1: Level show you it's just another way to spend my money.
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  Speaker 13: For the gun.
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  Speaker 1: It's chess extraordinary. What was he doing out there? Look
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  Speaker 1: what is he said? It's good for your health to
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  Speaker 1: get up there.
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  Speaker 15: Look, we've never had we've never had a president like this,
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  Speaker 15: But I think we've ever had a leader like this
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  Speaker 15: with the charisma. He's just like us, isn't he.
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  Speaker 1: To get a person.
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  Speaker 15: Like There's never been a person like it, to get
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  Speaker 15: up on the roof, to go for a walk, to
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  Speaker 15: chat to people down there. Just think it's great charisma.
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  Speaker 15: I think it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 9: You're easily pleased. I must say, you're easily pleased.
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  Speaker 1: I'm easily amused. I could see justin. It reminds me
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  Speaker 1: of that great James James Taylor song up on the roof.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe just going up there to get away from all
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  Speaker 1: the troubles and to contemplate the world.
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  Speaker 9: I don't mention Donald Trump in the same sentence as
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  Speaker 9: the great James Taylor. Happened to be a very big
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  Speaker 9: fan of a happy, very big fan of the latter,
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  Speaker 9: and not so much of the former. Maybe he's clearing
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  Speaker 9: his head after sacking people who turned up with information
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  Speaker 9: that he didn't like.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he was up there looking for the Epstein files. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he likes looking at that.
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  Speaker 15: Maybe that's what he was having a look at you.
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  Speaker 9: He's suddenly interested in the Epstein files because the we're all.
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  Speaker 1: We're all interested in the Epstein files. What we can
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  Speaker 1: get firm though live from the White House. They're not
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  Speaker 1: on the roof. So so thanks for joining us, Todas
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  Speaker 1: and Justin we'll catch you, catch you next week. What
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  Speaker 1: about those reporters They never expected to be yelling questions
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  Speaker 1: to a precedent on the roof. Just quickly, some of
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  Speaker 1: your feedback from what I had to say last night
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  Speaker 1: about Anthony Albanezi's weak approach to anti Semitism in the
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  Speaker 1: war and guards Allan says albow still the student protester,
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  Speaker 1: not an adult leader, and also another viewer says it
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  Speaker 1: absolutely troubles me our prime minister doesn't speak for most Australians.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Phyllis says, I support Israel and the Australian Jewish community,
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  Speaker 1: and Peter says many more quiet Australian support your view
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  Speaker 1: so far. We'll show you some more tomorrow night. Here's
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  Speaker 1: Steve Price,