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“Everyone Around Me Is So Happy” · Regretful Parents

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  Speaker 1: Back to regretful parents i'm erica and i'm kristin this
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  Speaker 1: is kristin hi kristin.
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  Speaker 2: Okay hi erica what well you just like introduced me
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  Speaker 2: as i was introducing myself which was interesting we're taking
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  Speaker 2: too long i spoke immediately i spoke.
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  Speaker 1: Immediate okay i'll be there We're here to react to
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  Speaker 1: a regretful parents. And this is a post that I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of hoping that Gabby would choose when she
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  Speaker 1: was here reacting with me. So I'm going to force
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  Speaker 1: it upon you.
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  Speaker 2: Great. Sign me up.
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  Speaker 1: This is titled Update. I posted about regretting parenthood, even though, quote,
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  Speaker 1: I have it all. Now I'm unexpectedly pregnant with our third.
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  Speaker 2: Dumbass. OK. Labeled dumbass next. Like, what is there to say?
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  Speaker 2: You know, how do you how do you fuck that up?
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  Speaker 2: You're how do you fuck that up? OK, keep going.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I love when people get pregnant and then
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  Speaker 1: they're like, how did this happen? Science will never tell us.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I know. And then they're like, oh, woe
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  Speaker 2: is me. I'm like, you could you could have solved this.
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  Speaker 1: Would you like to tell people about your little candies?
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  Speaker 2: I love these little candies. They're called squashies.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you had kids, you'd have to share
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  Speaker 1: those with your fucking children.
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  Speaker 2: None of them are sticky as shit from kids.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. They write, Hi, everyone. I
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  Speaker 1: posted here back in December about struggling with parenthood despite having,
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  Speaker 1: on paper, a very fortunate life. I have two wonderful children,
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  Speaker 1: eight and five, a loving and involved husband. financial security
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  Speaker 1: and family support. I love my children enormously, but I
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  Speaker 1: find the actual task of parenting incredibly monotonous and exhausting.
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  Speaker 1: And I was struggling with how much of myself seemed
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  Speaker 1: to be disappeared into being a mom. She says mom,
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  Speaker 1: so I take that to be someone not in America.
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree?
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Correct. I do want to stop right there, though,
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  Speaker 2: which is like, How many of these posts do you
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  Speaker 2: think are like them feeling the need to cover their
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  Speaker 2: tracks in case like they get found? In case they
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  Speaker 2: like somebody figures it out. Because I feel like when
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  Speaker 2: people go above and beyond to be like, just so
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm obsessed with my kids. I'm obsessed with everything.
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  Speaker 2: I just want you to know the specific tasks of
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  Speaker 2: parenting is what I hate. Like, I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's a little over the top, a little too trying
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  Speaker 2: to cover my ass for me to believe it.
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  Speaker 1: As opposed to what? Because I'm confused by what you're saying, actually.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this post in particular is reading to
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  Speaker 2: me like scared of getting caught. And so they're just
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  Speaker 2: like over the top. You know, like when like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so you're not saying like they're lying about details.
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  Speaker 1: They're lying about how much they love it. So that
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  Speaker 1: if somebody does catch them, they're like, look, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: say that you were a bad husband.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, no, I love my kids. I love my kids.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't love, like, the little things. Like, the
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  Speaker 2: little things.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's like, okay. And I'm sure, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's true for people. Like, I don't doubt
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  Speaker 2: that that is a thing. But, like, I question it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I question it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, thou doth protest too much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Healthy skepticism. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I could see that. Why wouldn't you just... lie about, like,
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  Speaker 1: ages and stuff, though, to cover your tracks.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she did.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they did.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. She writes, I received so many beautiful comments on
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  Speaker 1: that post. People were incredibly kind and honest, and it
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  Speaker 1: genuinely made me feel much less alone. So I suppose
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming back because I feel a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: that again. About a month ago, I found out I'm
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  Speaker 1: If I'm getting this correct, she was like, people were
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  Speaker 1: so nice to me then that now that I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a shit place, I'm going to come back and hope
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  Speaker 1: that I get all the same love and support that
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  Speaker 1: I got before. Is that how it's reading to you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, great. This was completely unplanned. I was on birth
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  Speaker 1: control and genuinely did not think pregnancy was a possibility.
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  Speaker 1: I happened to be with my mom, sister-in-law, and sister
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  Speaker 1: when after joking about how tired I've been, My sister
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  Speaker 1: convinced me to take a pregnancy test that she had. Oh, no. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: I took it fully expecting to be negative. It wasn't. Girl,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to be pregnant, you can't be
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  Speaker 1: taking a pregnancy test in front of other people because
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  Speaker 1: that's then accountability if people are not going to support
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  Speaker 1: you in having an abortion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%. That was dumb. I mean, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I do get that she was like, well, I'm on
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  Speaker 2: birth control. This is probably not the case, but for funsies,
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: But still, what's the funsies?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There's no funsies here. It's a lose-lose.
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  Speaker 2: May you all have learned this woman's lesson.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't think this through. So she said, I
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  Speaker 1: took it fully expecting it to be negative. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: So my family essentially found out at the same time
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  Speaker 1: I did. And since then, everyone has been so excited. Stupid.
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  Speaker 1: So stupid. What a stupid choice to make.
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  Speaker 2: But also, like, would that change the outcome? Like, would
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  Speaker 2: she have gotten an abortion if they didn't know? Like,
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  Speaker 2: probably not. Probably not.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand people who are this way. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not happy being a mom, why would you
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  Speaker 1: have another kid? Just... Say goodbye. Yeah. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: still could do the same thing and just be like,
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  Speaker 1: I am miscarried. How would anyone know? That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, I don't think it would have changed the
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  Speaker 2: outcome anyway because it doesn't sound like she would have
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  Speaker 2: gotten an abortion, period. So now she's just, like, wallowing
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  Speaker 2: because people are excited and she's not happy. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: People just make this needlessly difficult for themselves. You know? She's, like,
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  Speaker 1: talking about how everyone's, like, so happy and she's struggling
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  Speaker 1: with it and she doesn't feel excited. Girl. Why are
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  Speaker 1: you listening to anyone but yourself? I know that's easier
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  Speaker 1: said than done. As somebody who chronically does not listen
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  Speaker 1: to herself.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but this is like literally the biggest life decision
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  Speaker 2: one can have happen to them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so she says, and I just don't feel excited yet.
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  Speaker 1: I feel horrible admitting that. I know people will understandably
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  Speaker 1: point out that I have options.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: She said, I'm very pro-choice, but when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: my own pregnancy, termination is something I feel incredibly conflicted
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  Speaker 1: about and ultimately don't think I want. I've been there.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm on the other side, girl. Just move on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I have a hard time sympathizing
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  Speaker 2: with people like this. You know, like.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't want the baby, don't have the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go to a bunch of people on the internet
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  Speaker 2: who made you feel good once, and so, like, now
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  Speaker 2: you think, like, these people will make you feel good again. Bitch,
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  Speaker 2: you are on the regretful parent subreddit already. Like, that
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  Speaker 2: in and of itself is enough for me to say...
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  Speaker 2: Enough for me to understand that you don't really like
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  Speaker 2: being a parent. You can sugarcoat it as much as
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  Speaker 2: you want by trying to say, oh, I love my kids,
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  Speaker 2: I love my kids. You don't like being a parent.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you doing it to yourself? Your response, like.
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  Speaker 2: You're ultimately responsible for your own life. Mm-hmm. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't feel bad when people just go through things when
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  Speaker 2: they have, like, half-assed reasoning. And this is a half-assed reason.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, I don't like, I just, like, don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's, like, good for me. Like, I just, like,
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  Speaker 2: don't want, it's like, shut the fuck up. Then shut
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  Speaker 2: the fuck up. Like, why are you here? Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's looking for people to support
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  Speaker 1: her in doing it, but it's like, if you're okay
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  Speaker 1: with it for other people, why are you not okay
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  Speaker 1: with it for yourself?
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  Speaker 2: But to me, it's also like, if you want people
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  Speaker 2: to support you, Go to the parents subreddit because at
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  Speaker 2: this point you've basically decided you want to be a parent.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm saying she wants people to support her in
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  Speaker 1: having an abortion. I think that's my sense is that
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  Speaker 1: she wants people to be like, just do it. It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: And then she can feel like validated. But it's like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need anybody to tell you that it's OK
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  Speaker 1: to have an abortion. You're saying yourself your choice.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe. I mean, she's basically saying I lean this way. Again,
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  Speaker 2: the only other alternative is like she's convinced somebody will
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  Speaker 2: find this. And so she wants them to think. That
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  Speaker 2: she did not want an abortion. And so if something
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  Speaker 2: were to happen, I don't know. I know it's a
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, but like she came on too strong to
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  Speaker 2: me with the whole, I love my kids. I love
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  Speaker 2: my kids. I want to keep the baby. Something feels
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  Speaker 2: a little odd to me.
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  Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see that. She says
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't think that's what she wants. I'm married, financially
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  Speaker 1: secure and have a wonderful. Again, she is laying it on.
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  Speaker 1: She's laying it thick. Have a wonderful husband and already
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  Speaker 1: have two children. I know none of those things mean
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  Speaker 1: I have to continue a pregnancy. But emotionally for me,
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  Speaker 1: it just isn't that simple. She doesn't say why, though. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not done. I actually used to be somebody who
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  Speaker 1: was like, I'm not against abortion. Well, there was a
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  Speaker 1: time when I was like, oh, abortion is bad because
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  Speaker 1: I was in a cult. Then I went to, I'm
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  Speaker 1: okay with abortion, but I would never have one. I
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  Speaker 1: would just have the child. And then now I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a place where I'm like... Even if there's not a
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy in there, just abort.
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  Speaker 2: It. Just to be safe.
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  Speaker 1: Just clear out whatever's in there. It's fine. And so
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  Speaker 1: I do kind of feel like I just want to
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  Speaker 1: push these people off a ledge to be like, it's girl,
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  Speaker 1: just do it. It's fine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're giving too much morality to something that's not a moral.
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  Speaker 1: or immoral decision.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right. She says at the same time, I'm just so
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  Speaker 1: annoyed that she doesn't explain like for me, it's not
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  Speaker 1: that simple. Why? Yeah. Well, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I get the sense that this person is not thinking
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  Speaker 2: like it's giving it's reading immature. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Agree. Too immature for somebody that already has two kids
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  Speaker 1: and allegedly a wonderful husband.
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  Speaker 2: Like an eight-year-old kid. Like, you've been at this for
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  Speaker 2: a while. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. Let's be real. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: I feel almost a sense of grief about starting again.
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  Speaker 1: My youngest has fully started school full-time. I recently went
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  Speaker 1: back to work two days a week, not because we
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  Speaker 1: needed the money, but because I desperately wanted something to
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  Speaker 1: do outside of motherhood. I finally felt like I was
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  Speaker 1: getting a little piece of myself back. So depressing to
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  Speaker 1: be in a situation where you're like, I don't need
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  Speaker 1: the money, but I'm going to go work just so
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  Speaker 1: that I can do something for myself.
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  Speaker 2: That's the crazy part to me. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just posted a video on TikTok today about like
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  Speaker 2: people who like love to have kids because they have
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  Speaker 2: like no identity outside of like the standard life script.
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  Speaker 2: And then also people who love like LinkedIn and love
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  Speaker 2: their careers like through corporate America are obsessed with that
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  Speaker 2: because they have no identity outside of that as well.
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  Speaker 2: And this is that. This is like the woman who
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  Speaker 2: had kids who like has no identity. And so she's like, OK, well,
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  Speaker 2: now I need to go to work and so I
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  Speaker 2: can get a piece of me back. It's like that
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  Speaker 2: is so embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: Like, why not like take an art class?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many other things you could do that
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  Speaker 2: are like Like, you know, she was like, oh, I mean, granted,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what she does for work. Maybe she's
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  Speaker 2: like a stripper and having a great time. But my
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  Speaker 2: read is that this is like probably a boring ass
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  Speaker 2: job that she's doing. Like a desk job.
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  Speaker 1: Like a corporate job.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of like, you know, like I go work at
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  Speaker 2: the cookie store because I think it's fun. I love baking,
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  Speaker 2: you know? Right, right, right. Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm looking.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at nappies, feeds, sleepless nights and
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  Speaker 1: being a full time stay at home mom again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you thought that she was laying it on thick before,
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  Speaker 1: just hold on to your britches. My husband is genuinely
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  Speaker 1: fantastic and a very involved father, but I am still
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  Speaker 1: the primary parent. Okay. Shocker. So although this baby changes
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  Speaker 1: both of our lives, I know that practically it will
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  Speaker 1: change mine more. I think what I'm finding hardest is
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  Speaker 1: that everyone around me is so happy. My family talks
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  Speaker 1: excitedly about the baby, and I love that this child
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  Speaker 1: is already so wanted by them. Are you having a migraine?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously! Obviously! This isn't fucking rocket science. Like, obviously your
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  Speaker 2: family is going to think you want this and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be happy for you and they don't have
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  Speaker 2: to fucking do any of the work. So why wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: they be happy?
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  Speaker 1: They're going to love it.
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  Speaker 2: Cute things for the kid at Christmas. They get to
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  Speaker 2: like benefit in like the same way when your friend
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  Speaker 2: gets a fucking puppy. You're like, hell yeah, my friend
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  Speaker 2: has got a puppy and I get to play with
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  Speaker 2: that puppy every once in a while because it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: affect my life and it's day to day. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you dumbass.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: People exhaust me.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Me too. Me too. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be on this planet.
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  Speaker 2: I really.
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  Speaker 1: How come?
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  Speaker 2: Gee whiz. It's so weird to me because like I
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  Speaker 2: would normally abort this baby because I'm clearly not happy
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  Speaker 2: about it. But like my friends and family think like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's cool. Like they're like, wow, cool. And so therefore
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to risk my life and
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  Speaker 2: throw away the next you know, at least minimum 18
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  Speaker 2: years because they think that it's cool if I have
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  Speaker 2: a kid. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, grow a
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  Speaker 2: fucking spine.
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  Speaker 1: I know, dude. I know. It's crazy. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: person is so addicted to what other people think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's from top to bottom. She's like, I loved what
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  Speaker 1: people said on my last post about her grandparent. I
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  Speaker 1: love that my family is so excited for me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: okay with other people having abortions but not for me
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  Speaker 1: because who knows what people might think of me it's
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  Speaker 1: like bitch think about yourself a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Spot on i think it's just like immaturity like this
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  Speaker 2: is like all it is it's like i care so
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  Speaker 2: much about what other people's perception of me is that
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  Speaker 2: i can't do anything that's true to myself.
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  Speaker 1: It's immaturity but it's also women are so socialized to
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  Speaker 1: just think about what everybody else wants and not about
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  Speaker 1: what your your own self wants and then our thought
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  Speaker 1: yeah To only do what they want. And, like, women
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  Speaker 1: never get that for themselves. And it's really annoying. Just
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  Speaker 1: choose yourself.
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  Speaker 2: But as we age, we generally do, right?
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  Speaker 1: As we age, but that's when people are like, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hear from you anymore. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we don't know how old this girl is. Like,
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  Speaker 2: she could have had a baby at, like, 18 for
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  Speaker 2: all we know. And, like, she's only 26 or something.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that she's younger because she reads like a
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  Speaker 1: younger person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. I hope. Because if you're in your mid-30s, girl,
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  Speaker 2: and you're still, like, a little... bitch a little baby
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  Speaker 2: ass bitch like no yeah we gotta go to therapy
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  Speaker 2: we gotta finish this yeah the family's so excited and
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  Speaker 2: she says but sometimes i'm sitting here thinking why don't
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  Speaker 2: i feel like you do maybe the difference with an
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  Speaker 2: unexpected third baby is that this time i know exactly
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  Speaker 2: what having a baby means i know.
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  Speaker 1: How much i will probably love this little person that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they gotta be here probably But I
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  Speaker 1: also know exactly how relentless raising them will be. Has
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  Speaker 1: anyone else been there? Particularly anyone who had an unexpected
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  Speaker 1: third after finally getting out of the baby slash toddler years.
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  Speaker 2: So specific. It is.
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel dread, grief, or ambivalence during the pregnancy
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  Speaker 1: and still end up happy that your child came along?
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  Speaker 1: I think I just need to hear that I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I want to do this all over again
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  Speaker 1: and I will love this baby can exist at the
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  Speaker 1: same time. Thank you all so much. That is the
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  Speaker 1: worst fucking reason to have a child.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want this kid, but maybe I will love
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  Speaker 1: them and everyone else will be happy.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this dumbass is a dumbass. Like she
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: literally spelled it out, but it's like two plus two
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: equals four, bitch. It doesn't equal five. Stop.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And no one telling you that it equals five is
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: going to make it equal five for you. Exactly.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: First comment says your feelings about your pregnancy are your feelings.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: But when I terminated, I felt oddly maternal about it. Like, OK,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: this baby gets to stay in the ether somewhere and
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: be safe from the evils of the world. I love that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like we don't hear that enough. That's really nice.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I know this might upset some people, but it felt
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: like a loving act, knowing that if they had been born,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the capacity to love and parent them appropriately.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's helpful, just sharing perspective. It
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: sounds like you are making thoughtful decisions. No, it doesn't. Yeah, no, this.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Is just her being nice, blowing smoke up her ass
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: to make her feel happy because that's what she came for.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I hope you get the space and support
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you need to process this unexpected news.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Is that the most upvoted?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: That's the most upvoted, yeah. And a lot of people
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: are saying, yes, getting an abortion can be an act
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: of love. Yes, yes, yes, blah, blah, blah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Is OP replying to any comments or no?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. No.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Can you go to her profile and see if she's
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: posted anything?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Good question. You know what's really interesting?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Like, I feel like Reddit names are always, like, hard
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: to judge because, like, sometimes, you know, it's just generated.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And I feel like you never really know. But her
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: username is usedindividual with some numbers after. Interesting. That feels bad,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't it?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that. Oh, they keep their posts hidden.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of people do now.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Well. Listen, I don't know why I'm finding it so
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: hard to find some empathy for this person. I just
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: feel like this is just like a classic case of like.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Dumb bitch.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I know the answer, but I'm not doing it because
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I'm I have no spine and I'm just like so
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: tired of it. I'm like in in the in the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: age of 2026 when no one has a spine, grow
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: a fucking spine. We are beat down every single day,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and you can't do what's right for your own family. Like,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I don't trust you to do right by other people
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: in the world if you can't even do what's right
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: for your own fucking family. Just... Stop it up your ass.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great point. Does your child deserve
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a mom who's, like, so fucking over it?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No. No.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Despite how wonderful your husband is, your secondary parent husband.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Who's also not the primary parent. And again,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: like we just did an episode on the UN climate
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: change updates. It's like the world is heading towards disaster.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: You're not doing anything. You're not doing any favors for
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: this kid by having it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Should we wrap it up?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: We shall. Kristen, thank you for being here to react
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to this with me. It's been a time. Folks, if
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you're watching this and you enjoyed it, go ahead and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like and subscribe. In the meantime. What do we always
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: tell people, Kristen?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: We always tell people, as this woman should have listened
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to us, don't get pregnant.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't do it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Don't do it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Alright, love ya.