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Chuck in the Morning 9/1 H1: Is it over? Mariners Morning After & it's Apple Cup week! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: Put your head up now, we got a long day!
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  Speaker 2: Where the action never stops. Are you writing this down? No.
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  Speaker 2: Something completely different. This is Chuck in the Morning. Why,
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  Speaker 2: you people are beyond human. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Hey, great morning to you. Welcome in to
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  Speaker 2: the radio show here on a Tuesday. Ashley Ryan is here.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Chuck Powell. Great to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: And we are going to take you till 10 o'clock today.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot to discuss, including college football. Big
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  Speaker 2: week for college football as we get you ready for
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  Speaker 2: the Apple Cup. A lot more stories coming out of
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks camp yesterday with the practice squad being finalized and
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  Speaker 2: so much more on that front. A couple players left
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  Speaker 2: the organization. So we'll get into that during the course
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  Speaker 2: of our show together. And, of course, crap. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of crap to talk about. Just absolute miles
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  Speaker 2: and miles of muck.
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  Speaker 3: You mean like traffic?
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  Speaker 2: No, not traffic. More like a river of poo, like
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  Speaker 2: what Andy Dufresne swam through to get out of Shawshank Redemption.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we will have to swim through today when
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  Speaker 2: talking about the Seattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Something like farming, maybe, like if we're talking about manure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can call it that. Yeah. You can certainly
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  Speaker 2: call it that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Not the same.
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  Speaker 2: The same, but certainly.
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  Speaker 3: I think that would be more fun to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly that's piled up to the knees.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say that. Yeah. So by the look of your face,
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  Speaker 2: you're not really excited about this.
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  Speaker 3: No, that one, that hurt last night.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, geez.
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  Speaker 3: That hurt my heart. That one, you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I heard he didn't use it last night. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he didn't. I could not watch the post game,
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  Speaker 2: but somebody got a message to him to make sure
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  Speaker 2: he didn't say that again because he didn't say it
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  Speaker 2: last night. That's good. At least that's what I understand.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I could not stomach watching the post game. Sorry, Brad.
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  Speaker 2: But I turned it off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: At that point. Well, that's just the way it's been
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  Speaker 2: all season long and just inventing ways to lose. And
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  Speaker 2: last night, I mean, you put eight runs on the board.
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  Speaker 2: And there were some good pitching performances sprinkled in there.
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  Speaker 2: Dominguez has turned out to be pretty good. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: other than that mop-up game that he played where he
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  Speaker 2: gave up a bunch of runs and people already thought
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  Speaker 2: he sucked, he's been pretty good since that time. Spire
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  Speaker 2: was good last night. Not sure he should have been
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  Speaker 2: taken out, but that's something that we'll get into. Munoz
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  Speaker 2: was good last night, even though it goes down as
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  Speaker 2: a blown save for him. And Randy Rosarino continues to
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  Speaker 2: just carry this team.
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  Speaker 3: He's trying everything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about somebody that's answering
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  Speaker 2: the bell for you. It's Randy Rosarino, who's not exactly
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  Speaker 2: known as that guy, but man. They should take a
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  Speaker 2: page out of his book. They should all come back
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  Speaker 2: with braids today because that was remarkable, the performance that
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  Speaker 2: he put in yesterday. Every time he came to the plate,
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  Speaker 2: I guess he did make one out, but he had
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to do damage, and he did damage. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he was sensational last night once again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and funny that you say everybody should come back
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  Speaker 1: with braids today, because I had a dream, actually, that
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  Speaker 1: they all dyed their hair blue last night. And they
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  Speaker 1: decided they couldn't undye it blue until they won a game.
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  Speaker 3: And they all had blue, long.
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  Speaker 1: Scraggly hair because they couldn't win a game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, jeez.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, jeez. It was really sad.
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  Speaker 3: I woke up really sad.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, hitless smurf. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, why the blue? Well, we were losing.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, well, aren't you supposed to start something
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  Speaker 3: on a win streak? But they didn't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting that you're dreaming about. That's the most interesting
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  Speaker 2: part of this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, really.
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  Speaker 2: You're dreaming of ways.
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  Speaker 3: That's sad, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They got Smurf hair. Yep. Oh, there's Winless Smurf.
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  Speaker 3: That's basically.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Papa Smurf. Go see Winless Smurf. He's... Yeah. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: Papa Smurf. Rock Bottom Smurf is really feeling bad right now.
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  Speaker 2: You ought to go talk to him.
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  Speaker 3: Go help him out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Give him a pep talk, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean....
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  Speaker 2: I know they want to win. Oh, yeah. Certainly Dan
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  Speaker 2: wants to win. I mean, his nervous energy to this
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  Speaker 2: point is just so uninspiring to see. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: wish the camera would stop panning to him. But just
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  Speaker 2: from the first inning, he's sitting there fidgeting. And all
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  Speaker 2: the way through the postgame show. I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: him getting fired would put him out of his misery.
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  Speaker 2: Because he looks miserable. Um, and, and I thought he
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  Speaker 2: had another bad night last night, not to pile on,
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  Speaker 2: but I thought he had another bad night managing a
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  Speaker 2: baseball team last night. I had questions, but obviously the
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  Speaker 2: bigger problem and bigger issue is, I mean, this collection
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  Speaker 2: of team collection of players that just a year ago
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  Speaker 2: went to the American league championship series. Like have they
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  Speaker 2: forgotten how to win? Have they forgotten what it takes
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  Speaker 2: to win as a group? Because between the examples of,
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a crap that I'm seeing on the field,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'm not paying attention, those examples, and then
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  Speaker 2: the third example, I just want to be a hero.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be a team player at all.
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  Speaker 2: The combination of those three things that have led this
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  Speaker 2: team to be 10 games under. 500, With 24 games
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  Speaker 2: to go. I mean, that's as bad of a result
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  Speaker 2: as I could have even fathomed at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the year. If you would have told me worst case
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  Speaker 2: scenario for this team, I wouldn't have come anywhere close
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  Speaker 2: to 10 games under. 500. But the way that they've
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  Speaker 2: played this season... They've played like a team. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like bad luck is costing them. They've played
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  Speaker 2: like a team that's 10 games below 500 with 24
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  Speaker 2: games to go. Worst offense in Major League Baseball. Starting
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  Speaker 2: pitching's been spotty. Relievers haven't been reliable from game to game.
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  Speaker 2: Defense has been sloppy all season long. Dan Wilson's not good.
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  Speaker 2: at managerial decisions. And then you want to throw on
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  Speaker 2: top of it when you still, when the baseball gods
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  Speaker 2: have given you a rope, just grab onto it and
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  Speaker 2: pull yourself to shore. We have selfish baseball. We have
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  Speaker 2: hero ball going on. We have lack of focus and
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  Speaker 2: just a general lack of team baseball. And it's really, really,
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  Speaker 2: it's beyond frustrating. I mean, I mean, we've had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of frustrating seasons of Mariner baseball since I moved
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  Speaker 2: to town. And I know you had a lot more
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  Speaker 2: before I got here. Yeah. But this one takes the cake. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because the expectations were so high. Because everybody in the sport,
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  Speaker 2: including the two teams you're going up against, know you're
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  Speaker 2: the team to beat. You have the best team. It's
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  Speaker 2: why the Astros and Rangers didn't do anything at the
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  Speaker 2: trading deadline. Because they acknowledged, no, we can't compete with
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  Speaker 2: that roster. The Rangers were thinking about selling. The Mariners
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  Speaker 2: are the only team in our division that bought at
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  Speaker 2: the trading deadline. And yet the Astros and Rangers keep,
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  Speaker 2: they're actually playing better baseball and the Mariners just keep
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  Speaker 2: getting worse. I mean, it is really hard to explain
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  Speaker 2: to people. And this is what I'm supposed to do
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  Speaker 2: for a living. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I just think I do agree. It is the
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  Speaker 1: most disappointing season that I can remember. And I think
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  Speaker 1: we've said this a couple times and wondered, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is it just because we're coming off a frustrating series
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  Speaker 1: or a frustrating moment? But I don't ever remember being
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  Speaker 1: this bothered by the disappointment of a season. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think, yeah, it's because you came in with such
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  Speaker 1: high expectations and you almost got us all the way
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  Speaker 1: to the World Series. We were so close. And so
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  Speaker 1: to come back, it's like, okay, well, let's try this again.
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  Speaker 3: We can do this. And just the way in which.
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  Speaker 1: We have lost games this year, it's like, What do
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  Speaker 1: we have to do? What do we have to do
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  Speaker 1: to win?
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  Speaker 2: It's just.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, do we have to sell our souls?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Do we have to dye our hair blue? I don't know. But,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just.
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  Speaker 1: Watching last night, it's like, okay, here we go. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the comebacks, to tie it, to take the lead,
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  Speaker 1: all these things, you're like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Led by Randy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is what we've been looking for.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go. And then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always something or someone or collections of someones
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  Speaker 2: that undermine even those who are efforting toward trying to
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  Speaker 2: turn this around. And look, I know Julio didn't do
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  Speaker 2: anything to try and lose the game last night. But
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  Speaker 2: there's no excuse for you. Anybody at high school baseball
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  Speaker 2: knows that you can't let the runner get to second
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  Speaker 2: base in that situation. You play center field every single
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  Speaker 2: day as a grown-ass adult. When the ball was in
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  Speaker 2: the air, there probably weren't but 10 of fans watching
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  Speaker 2: that didn't know you can't die for.
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  Speaker 3: That you got to keep that in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: And what does julio do the guy that plays that
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  Speaker 2: position every day has a fielding coach in his ear
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  Speaker 2: every single day I mean, that's 162 games a year
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  Speaker 2: that they play. This isn't just dabbling in baseball. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: 162 games a year, plus spring training. Plus, he also
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  Speaker 2: played as a kid growing up. He knows you can't
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  Speaker 2: dive for that ball in that situation. You have to
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  Speaker 2: keep it in front of you because that's the tying run.
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  Speaker 2: And we have our closer in, really the last guy
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  Speaker 2: that we have. They still have Chapman. This is our
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  Speaker 2: last guy. This is our best chance to win this
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  Speaker 2: game right here. If it goes into extra innings, they
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  Speaker 2: have all the momentum and they have all the advantages.
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  Speaker 2: We got to win this one right here. And how
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  Speaker 2: someone who plays that position for a living, he's not
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  Speaker 2: a utility guy that bounces all over the place. He
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  Speaker 2: plays center field every night for 160 evenings per year
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  Speaker 2: plus spring training games. And he gets caught in between
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  Speaker 2: through his own admission and then afterwards said, my instincts
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  Speaker 2: said to go for it. My instincts said to go
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  Speaker 2: for it. Playing hero ball. I wanted to make the
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  Speaker 2: diving catch rather than the smart play there, which is
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  Speaker 2: you let it drop, you keep it in front of you,
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  Speaker 2: and trust that Andres Munoz, who was throwing flames last night...
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  Speaker 2: that he can get you out of this with a
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  Speaker 2: runner at first and nobody out because there's a really
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  Speaker 2: hard chance to get out of it with a runner
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  Speaker 2: at third and nobody's out. And clearly we didn't get
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  Speaker 2: it done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep that runner at second and you win
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  Speaker 1: the game. It was just the fact that he was
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  Speaker 1: able to get to third. And then, yeah, what are
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  Speaker 1: you supposed to do? What is Mooney supposed to do
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  Speaker 1: in that situation?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he'd strike out the side, apparently. He got the
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  Speaker 2: next guy out.
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  Speaker 3: Thank goodness, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But, I mean, I just kept sitting there saying, would
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  Speaker 1: have been a win if he stays at second.
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  Speaker 3: Would have been a win.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, at that point it was over. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't going to stay at second. He got to third.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he got to third on that play. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying if Julio plays the ball in front of him.
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  Speaker 2: Right, then he stays at first.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm saying even if he gets to second, you
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  Speaker 3: still win the game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, probably, yeah. But I'm saying that the play
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  Speaker 2: is to keep it in front of you and keep
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  Speaker 2: him at first base so he's not in scoring position. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody knows that. And yet we're going to die
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  Speaker 2: for it. And it wasn't the only situation. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Dom had a really good night last night. But bases loaded,
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  Speaker 2: nobody out. Everybody's just gotten on base in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to hit a grand slam. Like, keep
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  Speaker 2: the chain moving. And you strike out on three pitches.
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  Speaker 2: Now he came back and he redeemed himself later with
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  Speaker 2: two big hits. Got stranded at third himself. And that
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  Speaker 2: was some bad luck because Cal scorched one to the
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  Speaker 2: left side of the infield. And Trevor Story made a
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  Speaker 2: play on him despite the infield being in. But that
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  Speaker 2: sort of hero ball, that is not necessary in that moment.
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  Speaker 2: Just keep the chain moving. You want to hit the
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  Speaker 2: Grand Slam because you want to be a hero. I
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  Speaker 2: don't need to see that on three straight swings and
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  Speaker 2: then you go back to the dugout. So that was
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  Speaker 2: another example of it. I mean, let's be honest about
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  Speaker 2: something that's really uncomfortable. We all wanted Josh Naylor back.
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  Speaker 2: That dude doesn't care. That lack of hustle last night
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  Speaker 2: on that chopper to Trevor's story was embarrassing. His challenges
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  Speaker 2: don't improve. Like, you have to be one selfish person
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  Speaker 2: to not understand 140 games into.
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  Speaker 2: Abs challenge system that you're not any good at it
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  Speaker 2: and if you're going to challenge you better be right
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  Speaker 2: and he cost us both our challenges down the stretch
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  Speaker 2: which could have been a lot very helpful jp crawford
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  Speaker 2: always swinging for the fences i mean last night he
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  Speaker 2: laid down a bunt look what happened yeah it was
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  Speaker 2: great wasn't it great wasn't it great that he played
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  Speaker 2: within himself that he actually made a play that was
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  Speaker 2: team beneficial and he ended up getting a base hit
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  Speaker 2: out of it And then the next guy, Dom, tries
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  Speaker 2: to play hero ball. Play team ball. It's not team ball.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of that reflects on the players, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it reflects on leadership. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why Dan can't get through to them, but my
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  Speaker 2: guess is it's because he's made his entire relationship with
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  Speaker 2: them to be their buddy. I want you to go
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  Speaker 2: home at the end of the day and say, man,
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  Speaker 2: that Dan's a nice guy. As opposed to demanding excellence
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  Speaker 2: from them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Come back tomorrow and be better. And we don't get that.
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  Speaker 2: And then let's talk about Dan. It shouldn't take a
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  Speaker 2: talk show host to understand. When George Kirby gives up
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  Speaker 2: a cheap hit, somebody go talk to him.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: It happens every single outing. Someone go talk to him
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  Speaker 2: because he hates it and he loses focus. And he
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  Speaker 2: blew the lead, a two-run lead because of that, last night.
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  Speaker 2: But nobody goes out. You wait until the damage is done.
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  Speaker 2: Cal ran out there two on and a 2-0 count
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  Speaker 2: on the batter as opposed to as soon as the
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  Speaker 2: bloop hit occurs, the cheap hit, the infield single. Are
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  Speaker 2: you not watching what everybody else is watching? Go talk
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  Speaker 2: to him immediately. I'm not saying Pete Woodworth because that's,
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  Speaker 2: those are valuable. If you do that twice in an inning,
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  Speaker 2: you got to take them out, but you got five
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  Speaker 2: visits to the mound. As soon as one happens, go
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  Speaker 2: out there. Why is Bizzardo being used when you know
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  Speaker 2: he has zero confidence right now? I just watched him
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  Speaker 2: wet down his leg against Toronto the other day. And
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  Speaker 2: now let's go to him. Let's go to him now. I,
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  Speaker 2: I trust Ferrer more. I get that the ERA this
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  Speaker 2: month suggests that he's not even been as good as Bazzardo,
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  Speaker 2: but the base runners allowed? Bazzardo has allowed 22 base
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  Speaker 2: runners in his last 12 innings. That's two an inning.
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  Speaker 2: Plus he gives up huge contact. He's in a funk,
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  Speaker 2: and yet we're going to use him. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: use him in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they think he'll just work his way out
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 2: And then Criswell. Criswell. hasn't pitched in months, wasn't pitching
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  Speaker 2: well when he went on the injury list. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a bad decision to load the bases. You have a
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  Speaker 2: runner at third, a great contact guy in Durbin, an
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  Speaker 2: impossible guy to double up in Duran. Let's, yeah, strategically,
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  Speaker 2: tie game, that's what you do. You load up the
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  Speaker 2: bases and you try to get the force out at home.
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  Speaker 2: But Criswell hasn't pitched in months, and you're throwing him
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  Speaker 2: in the middle. In Boston, where he used to pitch,
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  Speaker 2: so there's going to be the adrenaline running high, hasn't
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  Speaker 2: pitched in months at the major league level, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to throw him into shark-infested waters and then make
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  Speaker 2: his job. We're not going to give you any margin
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: for error.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the problem, and he couldn't find the
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: strike zone.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And he should not have even been used. You had Ferrer,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: who is more of a strikeout guy than Criswell. And
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: then the bunt in the top of the 10th. We
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: are the visiting team. Why are we bunting to start?
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: If you're in the bottom of the 10th, bunt the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: runner to third. It's a role as Chapman. Cole Young's
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: in a funk. We can't get a runner home from
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: third with less than two outs to save our asses.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: And yet we are going to lay down a bunt
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: with Robles, who never gets to play, by the way.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And he's like the next to a Rose Arena, our
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: most clutch hitter. And so we're going to put him
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: in the game. We're going to have him bunt against
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the lefty. Get the runner to third for what? Aroldis
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Chapman versus Cole Young's a mismatch right now. Not to mention,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you don't play for one run in the top of
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the 10th with a runner at second base. You play
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: for two, especially when you've exhausted all of your reliable relievers.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: You've got to play for a multiple-run inning. That's the strategy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: In the bottom of the 10th, if they don't score,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: lay down a bunt. Get him to third, and hopefully
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Cole Young puts the ball in play. That's bad managing.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And it happened all night again to Dan Wilson. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: now add to it selfish play on the field, hero
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: ball on the field, stupid play on the field, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: there's your result. You score eight runs in a must-win game,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: which is what it felt like, and you still can't
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: walk away with a victory. Sad. Yeah, it was.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: It was very sad.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's on tap.
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• 19:31
  Speaker 2: 9-8, Red Sox over the Mariners in 10 innings last night.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Drops the Mariners to 64-74. They are six out with
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: 24 to play. Both the Rangers and the Astros won
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: their games last night, and so that might have been
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the day. As we roll into September, today is September. 1st.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: That might have taken them out last night. And I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: think that the reaction in the clubhouse afterwards spoke to that.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: They sounded like that was it. I mean, from Brian
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Wu's interview to another player screaming in the background to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson throwing up his hands. I mean, certainly they've
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: got enough time to come back from that, but they
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: have to have everything break their way. And that's not
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: feeling good right now.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like anything wants to break their way
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's Apple Cup week, so we will start transitioning into
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: this big week. Yeah, it's strange that it's the opening
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: week of the season and that it's on a Sunday.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, let the discussion begin. Let the breakdown begin.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And who better to join us today than Rick Neuheisel.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: He is back for another season. Our college football insider,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the former UW head coach who's been in a few
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: of these Apple Cups. He's taken a few dunks in
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the river or the lake. um and so he'll join
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: us today at nine o'clock for the first time officially
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: this college football season we're actually going to go through
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: uh the fall lineup for you a little later on
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: in the show so you can find out what to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: expect uh for this upcoming year it's mostly set uh
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and we're excited to announce everything we're going to be
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: doing this fall eight days from the seahawks opener greg
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: bell will join us today at 705 uh we'll talk
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: about um Ross practice squad day yesterday as the Seahawks
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: pretty much set their practice squad. They lost a couple
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of guys that they wanted to get to their practice squad,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: including Jared Ivy, who went to the Atlanta Falcons yesterday.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: But Trayvon Diggs and others returned to the Seahawks, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Diggs might have a role sooner than later in this secondary.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Greg about that at 7.05. Lionel
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Messi has retired from international basketball. play in soccer, which
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I assume means he'll continue his responsibilities with Miami in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the MLS, but he has retired from international play. A
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: sad day in the soccer world yesterday, and the U.S.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Open continues as we're still in the early rounds, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: we've already seen a couple of big upsets. All right,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: coming up next, Mariners morning after. We'll get into some
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of the details of last night's crazy loss to the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Boston Red Sox. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. post-game show of
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the Seattle Mariners. We call it Mariners Morning After because
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we wait till the next morning to provide for you
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: a post-game show of the day before his game. And
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: it was another doozy. And when I say doozy, crappy.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a big pile of turds.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: It was an enormous pile of turds that stacked up
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: at Fenway Park in Boston, Massachusetts yesterday.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And you know, you think too, like at night.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: It was like the Boston turd party.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Very, very historical event.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Um, but you think sometimes like, Oh, I don't want
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to go to bed angry, right? I got to resolve
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: whatever issues I've got in my house before I go
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to sleep. People tell you that all the time.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I think that's BS.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Go to bed angry, work through it, wake up in
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the morning and see if you're still angry.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I'm still angry. Work through it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I know it's a, it's a great, it's great advice.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It really is. Um, and I guess we shouldn't allow
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: sports results to bother us this much. Um, But I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: couldn't sleep last night. I think it was because I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: had coffee too late. I think that's what it was.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But I didn't sleep last night. I tossed and turned.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it contributed. It didn't exactly lullaby me last night,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that 9-8 loss.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Sure didn't.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It didn't exactly go to sleep, little Chuck.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Didn't fill you with all the cozies.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Instead of counting sheep, I was counting balls to center field.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Running to the wall. Yeah, hitting refresh on my Twitter
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to get angry at the one jerk out of like
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a thousand responses that said something nasty.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate everybody else. Being constructive last night. I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: really do.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't even go to Twitter. I couldn't. That's how
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: bad it was.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Well, Mariners were in Boston last night taking on the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Red Sox. I mean, there's no way with 24 games
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: left in the season that we are in must-win territory.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But my goodness, it feels awfully musty. And to have
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: lost last night would have meant four straight losses on
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: this road trip. And with Houston and Texas both winning yesterday, yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's getting leaner and leaner. This team's chances, I mean,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: we're getting to the point they're going to have to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: pull off a miracle in the month of September if
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: they're going to keep their playoff hopes alive. And so
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: certainly the team showed up ready to hit. Julio had
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: an RBI double in the very first inning to get
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: the game started. It was a back-and-forth affair with the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Boston Red Sox last night. We're not used to seeing
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the Mariners slug quite that effectively. Of course, most of
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the damage done by Randy Orozarena from the leadoff spot,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: he had a double, he had a home run, he
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: had two RBI singles in the game, four for five,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Randy Orozarena. So he just kept putting the heat on
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox, the pressure on the Red Sox. Other
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: guys did contribute like Dom Canzone and Guys at the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: bottom of the order were at least getting on base
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: for Randy Rosarino last night, and Cal hit a home
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: run last night. So end of the day, you put
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: up a snowman, you score eight runs. That usually gets
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the job done. Unfortunately, our pitchers just kept giving the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: lead away. George Kirby allowed five runs over five innings.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Edward Bazzardo ended up creating traffic for himself this time.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Usually he's just doing a poor job cleaning up other
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: people's traffic, but he provided the traffic this time before
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Dan could get him out. He couldn't even get through
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: two batters in an inning before giving up two runs,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and yet you still had a chance to close it
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: out in the ninth inning. You were up 8-7. Andres Munoz,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: who's already checked into the game, in the eighth inning,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: is there to close it out in the ninth. He's
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: throwing over 100. He looks really good. And to lead
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: off the ninth inning, this happens. So one run game.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: A couple guys from the left side. I think he
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: matches up well because that... This is past Julio, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it's going all the way to the base of the wall.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: This could be an inside to Parker. He's being waved in,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: now being held. Anthony is into third, a critical error
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: in the ninth inning. I'll say, instead of runner at
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: first with one out, Andres Munoz is dealing with a
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: runner at third. Excuse me, runner at first, nobody out.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: He's dealing with a runner at third and nobody out.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: He did get the next guy out, but eventually the– well,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: actually got out of the inning. Excuse me, he struck
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: out the side– Let me reset that. Good Lord. Trying
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to remember 13 different things. So he got the next
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: guy out, and then sack fly, scores Roman Anthony. Not
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a great throw by Randy Rosarine. It bounced like four times.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: A really good slide by Roman Anthony. I still thought
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: maybe he had a chance that he got him out.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was close.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: It was close, but he gets the hand in to
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: tie it up, and then you went to the 10th.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And that's when the wheels came off. We're unable to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: score against the Roldis Chapman in the top of the 10th.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Cooper Criswell coming fresh off the IL is thrown right
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: into the fire. He ends up the first batter bunts
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the runner to third. So the winning runs now 90
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: feet away. Dan Wilson elects to walk the next two intentionally.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Criswell falls behind Trevor Story. I didn't think he was
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: even going to throw a strike to Story who eventually
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: squares up a cookie. and knocks it to the wall,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: would have scored all three, but they only needed one.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: So the Red Sox win it last night in 10 innings, 9-8,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: another crushing defeat for Dan Wilson and the Mariners.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, you know, a really difficult loss.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: You know, this is Fenway Park, and anything's possible.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And, you know, tonight was another example of that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: But, you know, not to be overshadowed, I think, offensively,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: tonight our guys put up some really good at-bats all
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: the way through the ballgame, and And, you know, kept
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: adding on.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Randy, really huge night offensively.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: You know, slung the bat extremely well.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And all our guys in there with a chance. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: tacking some runs on.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: And, you know, George gave us the five. And our
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: guys continued to fight back. It didn't matter where we
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: were at. They took the lead back. And, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: just a tough one tonight. Tough way to end that one.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Dan, what did you, what'd you see on that Roman
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Anthony triple leading off there and what's your message to
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Julio after?
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a, you know, it's
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: a play where, you know, you get too close, it's,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: it's really hard to knock down and, and, uh, it's
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: a decision, you know, you gotta make and, and, uh,
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: you know, that one slipped by him and, and, uh,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: you know, that's a, It's a tough break in that
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: situation and puts the.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Guy at third. Does he just seem a little hesitant
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: maybe there in that situation? I think he's trying to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: make the catch, no question.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: That's the difficult part of that decision is understanding how
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: close you can get and the hop.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Just went up and over. I should have listened to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: this last night. We've got to replay that later in
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the show when we have time Okay. Because there is
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: just so much wrong with everything he just said. And
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I think it sums up why this team is 10
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: games under 500. I really do. I mean, just to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: rifle through a few things. Number one, he started off
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: with difficult one tonight. My guess is somebody told him
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to stop saying tough one, that people are mocking him
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: for it. So finally, somebody told him that. And then
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: he says, difficult one to start. And then actually he
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: comes right back, tough one. He can't help himself.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: It is his go-to. It's like a crutch.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: 64 wins and 74 tough one tonights. That's our record
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: on the season. Secondly, do you think it's time to
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: celebrate moral victories right now? Boy, we really bet. I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: gotta give Randy some credit. I mean, I can do that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: We can all acknowledge Randy had a great game last night.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: That should be mentioned at some point. But is it
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: really time to talk about the fight of the offense
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and the good at-bats? And then on top of it all,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: every baseball person knows that Julio misplayed that ball. Is
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: there anything wrong with saying you've Can't make that play.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: He knows better.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: No.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Is there anything wrong with that?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And, you know, and it would have been great if
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: he would have just said, too, if you're going to call,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you know, celebrate the offense, just say, man, I really
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: wish we could get our offense working at the same
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: time our pitching's working. We can't seem to figure it out.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with that? Pitching, you know, didn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: step up yesterday and help you out. You can't celebrate
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Georgia's five.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Sorry, you can't.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Did he say that too?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. The pitching was not a positive aspect
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: in that game yesterday. So if you want to call
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: out the offense for doing a good job, the pitching
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: didn't show up.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: That's not the game to put in the time capsule
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to someday describe this team because they scored way too
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: many runs in order for it to be representative of
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: how this season has gone. But that post-game press conference
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: needs to be in the time capsule. Because that does
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: encapsulate this entire season. And maybe you do understand why
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: this team doesn't focus when it needs to. Because there's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: always a... He gave it the old college try, didn't he?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Everybody in baseball knows you can't play that into a
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: triple in that situation. And I don't get why a manager...
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Can't say that publicly about a player. Nobody's saying like,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have a talking to that guy.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, he's going to play
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: like that. I don't want him on my team. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: don't even need you to bench him like Pat Murphy
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: would do from the middle. I don't even need to
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: do that. But can you not just tell us the truth?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: You can't play that into a triple. It's the reason
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you lost the game.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: All right. We'll talk more about that later. We might
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: have to replay that. Coming up next, though, we transition
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: into what should be a fun festive week. Sports Radio
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJR FM. The ultimate bow down move.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: I love Huskies so much.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Whenever you decorate your home with Husky stuff,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you're bowing down is what you're doing.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I don't even put purple and gold lights on my house,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm a Husky fan.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. Well, we've got a big game coming up
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, of course, right here on the flagship, more
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: on the Huskies in a moment. If you want to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: check out the Seahawks, though, if you want to celebrate
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the opener, like you're not going to the game, but
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: you still like to be around a bunch of crazy-ass 12s,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: including Ashley Ryan, Tulalip Resort Casino is actually hosting a
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: watch party next Wednesday to start the season, and they're
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: going to do it out in the big amphitheater, so
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: outside Tulalip. some beautiful Pacific Northwest weather. Hopefully I haven't
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: checked the forecast. But yes, outside on the big screen
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and you can be around food and beverage and like-minded
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: football fans and friends like Ashley Ryan. And then you've
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: got the casino inside if you want to go have
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: some fun. Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You can go in there and make a bet and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: come out to the amphitheater and watch the game and we'll, Hopefully,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: most likely, be watching just a repeat of the Super Bowl.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Probably. Everything to Laylip.com for more information. And, of course,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: we'll give you details throughout the course of the week.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Of course, we've got a big game coming up before
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: next Wednesday, and that is the Apple Cup. The Huskies
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: are going to debut. And once we get past, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we'll spend more time on this, certainly we're going to
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: talk to Rick Neuheisel about it today at 9 o'clock.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Just the strangeness of where this rivalry has gone here
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in the last three years. The fact that once again,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it's being given a new position. Let's start the year
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: with it. Let's do it on a Sunday. Let's have
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: a national stage. Maybe we can infuse energy back into it. Well, again,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to work. It doesn't
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: look like the Apple Cup's got a real bright future
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: in terms of sticking around. But nonetheless, it's an effort
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to try to salvage it at this point. And I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: think it probably will just come down to whether or
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: not Cougs want to live with this new world. If
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: they want to live with this new rivalry where obviously
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the differential in talent, unless something changes soon, is going
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: to keep getting greater. Being in different conferences, NIL having
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: overtaken the sport and transfer portals, once you get a
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: good player at Washington State, you're probably going to lose
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: them to someone else who's bigger and better and plays
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: in a bigger conference with more money. So that's just
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the reality that we're in. And I think part of this,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and it's not the entire story, is going to be
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: whether or not Coug fans are going to want to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: live with it. And I don't think that they're going
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: to want to. I mean, it was one thing to
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: be in a rival and feel like you had a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: chance every year and probably won every three years or so,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: three and a half years or so. But it's another
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: thing to just sign up for a beatdown, which could
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: potentially happen in this rivalry every year going forward because
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: of the now new gap. the gorge that is between
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: these two programs and their opportunities.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll be interesting to see how this game goes.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I think this one will dictate a lot of kind
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: of how things go in the future. If the Cougs
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: can keep it close, I don't know that the Huskies
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: would want to continue it because the last thing they
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: want to do is lose to someone in a smaller
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: conference that is from a program not getting the same
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: things that they're getting and that doesn't look good right
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and so and then if so either way i think
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: i'm i'm.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Very intrigued you know there's no win.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Right yeah it seems like it yeah it seems like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: both team both schools could have an argument for it
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: other than the fact that you have this long-standing rivalry
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and they want to try to continue it but i
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: don't know it's the same thing with like college football's
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: changed so much. Why are you trying to keep the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: things that made it so wonderful and so great about
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: college football?
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  Speaker 3: Because you're getting rid of everything else.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So it feels almost forced to try to continue some
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of these rivalries that don't seem to make a lot
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: of sense these days.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, money's killed a lot of college football rivalries. And
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: if it kills this one, eventually, I don't think that
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: we should be surprised. There's another aspect of it, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: it is purely financial. And this is probably the biggest
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: reason why it might not last. So we might be
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: experiencing our last few precious Apple cups.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's sad.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And that is that, I mean, UW has to host
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: seven games a year, like from their perspective, financially, we
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: need to host seven games a year. And if we
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: play in Pullman, we're giving one of those away. And
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: so unless the Cougs want to sign up for every
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: year in Seattle and never plan for Pullman, I don't
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: think it's going to, last yeah i i think that
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: uh it might even be.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Eight i was gonna say so can they it yeah
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: i don't know.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah just from a financial standpoint they have to host
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: a certain number of games to remain competitive within the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: big 10 conference and so um there's this feeling that
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: if unless this just becomes a seattle event that we
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: might not be able to just continue with it from
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: a financial standpoint point of view from the Huskies' perspective.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if I'm a Coug, I wouldn't want to
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not. Probably not. So not only do we
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: have the discrepancy in talent, we also never get to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: host the game either. That's what you're telling us?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Now it just seems like you're doing us a favor
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: to play us.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And that could become the reality that I think the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Cougs will slam the door on that. All right, coming
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: up next, Greg Bell's going to join us. We also
• 38:54
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