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America's Slickest Pavement Hustler w/ The Smith Sisters · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scam co ro R.
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  Speaker 2: Scam, Come.
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  Speaker 3: Rob froll.
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  Speaker 2: Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another installment of the podcast all about robbery,
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  Speaker 1: fraud and those who practice it and comedy. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess, and I am what Yes, excited,
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  Speaker 1: but you need to say it three times? Okay, I'm excited,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm elated for the guests that
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  Speaker 1: we have today. First, we have not one, but not two,
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  Speaker 1: but three icons blessing the show. First up, we have
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  Speaker 1: an Emmy nominated writer and the co host of a
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  Speaker 1: Gracie Award winning daily pop culture series, XM Radio Show.
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  Speaker 1: She was the head writer and co executive producer on
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  Speaker 1: the first two seasons of HBO's A Black Lady Sketch Show,
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  Speaker 1: for which she won a TCA Award and received three
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  Speaker 1: Emmy NAMA nor Seans, including Outstanding Writing for a Variety
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  Speaker 1: Sketch Series. Second, we have another wonderful queen off the mic.
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  Speaker 1: She's also an award winning social media executive who takes
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  Speaker 1: her obsessions with celebrities and their online behaviors seriously. Her
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  Speaker 1: dedication to evangelizing about the power of pop culture stems
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  Speaker 1: from her own tenure in marketing, talent relations, and production
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  Speaker 1: teams organizations like Sesame Street, Title VH one maybe you've
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  Speaker 1: heard of those. And last, and certainly not least, we
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  Speaker 1: have another iconic Kowayne, well known for her pop culture
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  Speaker 1: knowledge and commentary. She's been a regular entertainment celebrity and
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  Speaker 1: TV contributor for The New York Times, Time Magazine, GQ, Cosmopolitan,
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  Speaker 1: Vice and more. Congregation, please welcome Lauren Ashley Smith, Rachel Smith,
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  Speaker 1: and Riah Smith. The Smith says to us to the show.
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  Speaker 2: By well done, Thank you for that. For that. I was,
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  Speaker 2: I was, I was getting in the weeds there, I was.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and they also won this, and then
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  Speaker 1: when they wasn't winning that, they was doing this, and
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  Speaker 1: when and when they wasn't safe in the world, they
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  Speaker 1: was doing this. And also they're all blood related. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: like you know I love your mama. Yes, she loves
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  Speaker 1: you so much, she loves she really did the damn
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  Speaker 1: thing with y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God.
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  Speaker 1: And also when I first met your mother, Lauren, we
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  Speaker 1: were at a Halloween party and and.
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  Speaker 2: You were like, Oh, you have to go see my mom.
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  Speaker 1: I had already seen your mom and I just thought
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  Speaker 1: she was one of your little friends.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, that's your mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had come up to her and was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's good, and you were like that's She was like,
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  Speaker 1: that's my mom. I was like like, well, let me
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  Speaker 1: correct myself.
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  Speaker 2: I was now hold on, let me go over here.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, clean our girl. I can't approach you regularly, no way.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys approved it, I might blur out her face.
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  Speaker 1: But I would love to show the Halloween Yeah, she
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  Speaker 1: appreciate addresses the general Yeah, general Carnsis and my mom's.
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  Speaker 2: Dresses flow from progressive.
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  Speaker 1: So we had two week had yes at the Halloween party.
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  Speaker 2: And we squashed the beef now special.
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  Speaker 1: It was a moment of really extending all the branches
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  Speaker 1: and it was a beautiful thing to witness. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: touched the hem of her apron yes, and your premiums
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  Speaker 1: went down. Now, okay, listen, one of those insurance companies
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  Speaker 1: spots the show.
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  Speaker 2: I know, right, Reach out Reach Assurance.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to ask y'all, what is your relationship
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  Speaker 1: with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever
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  Speaker 1: run any scams that all pass the statute of limitation?
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  Speaker 1: Do you love a certain scammer. It could literally be anything,
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  Speaker 1: and anybody can go first. I'm going to go first
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  Speaker 1: because my scam. I was scammed, but I also participated
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  Speaker 1: in the scam. What and you'll know what I'm talking, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: In the early two thousand tens, I got really into
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  Speaker 1: like group fitness classes, and I started taking a workout
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  Speaker 1: class that was a Caribbean dance workout class, and of
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  Speaker 1: course it had a name that was in that vein.
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  Speaker 1: But also of course the proprietor and CEO was a
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  Speaker 1: white woman yes with a dream catcher tattoo. Yes, And
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  Speaker 1: she said, I call all you Caribbean people's dreams and
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  Speaker 1: I made them a class, and you go pay me
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  Speaker 1: for it. So I was a devotee of this workout class,
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  Speaker 1: got us all got my sister's into ronds to the
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  Speaker 1: point that I started doing like free social media stuff
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  Speaker 1: for her, like I was bastually working for her for free,
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  Speaker 1: which fine, that was my choice because I got like
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  Speaker 1: a discount on classes, even though it should have been more.
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is that she roped me and the
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  Speaker 1: other people that were really into the class and helping
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  Speaker 1: her into doing a kickstarter so she could do a
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  Speaker 1: DVD of the workout class. Wes like thirty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: and I am still waiting for the.
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  Speaker 2: DVD to never.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So like I was getting family friends. I was
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  Speaker 1: like support like a woman owned business and this class
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  Speaker 1: is so important. Did you know she was I knew
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  Speaker 1: she was white, even though she did she was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm partner in America.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, no, you're not. No, but she was.
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  Speaker 2: She as she had no she had a.
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  Speaker 1: Feather, okay brain, but she was like a really good
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  Speaker 1: fitness instructor. And it's like she could have just called
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  Speaker 1: it zoomba, Like that's actually how I started taking classes zoomba.
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  Speaker 2: But she came up with this whole like and it
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  Speaker 2: was like catch.
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  Speaker 1: The flow and all that too, so bad, but like
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  Speaker 1: I got so many people there. More was also one
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  Speaker 1: of the people who was always in the front row
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  Speaker 1: and always this class.
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  Speaker 2: So you had your front row.
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  Speaker 1: That's a prominent scene and this was a class and
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  Speaker 1: a major gem. So it's not like we were taking
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  Speaker 1: this one off. We had to have a membership to
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  Speaker 1: the gym to get into the class. To do X,
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  Speaker 1: Y and Z, we would follow her a different location. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I did have a good time. When we were doing it,
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  Speaker 1: it got us into another scam a little bit instructor too,
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  Speaker 1: and hers was about like mental health and we had
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  Speaker 1: to do uh like affirmations while we were punching.
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  Speaker 2: It was while you were punching.
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  Speaker 1: So I was the scam, but I also did I
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  Speaker 1: was an accomplice to the scam. Okay, see if you
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  Speaker 1: were having a good time, yes, wasn't The class was good.
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  Speaker 1: Was only reason I think starter money I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's a scam because you were running her social media.
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  Speaker 1: You were yeah, and then you roped in like a
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  Speaker 1: Ponzi skim. You roped in your friends and family, and
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  Speaker 1: then you helped raise money for a DVD that is
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  Speaker 1: a dv don't have a DVD and not fifteen Yeah
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  Speaker 1: it's a link. At this point we were doing vimeos.
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  Speaker 1: Then you really had a strong Vimeo. And the other
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  Speaker 1: thing is too, is that even though she had the
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  Speaker 1: class like twice a week at like this actual gym,
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  Speaker 1: she then taught classes like Ripley Career and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: And you could buy a class package and then but
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  Speaker 1: you had to pay like in cash up front, and
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  Speaker 1: it was just like a little business card that she
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  Speaker 1: would punch, but then she would take long breaks from teaching.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, well, I paid you four hundred dollars
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  Speaker 1: for this card, but you're not teaching any classes all summer,
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  Speaker 1: so I can't. I used gave you four hundred dollars. Yeah, girl,
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  Speaker 1: But she had to go on her spiritual jour she did.
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  Speaker 1: She did a lot of retreat. It's carnival like, oh
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  Speaker 1: and she went out, don't get it. I wonder where
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  Speaker 1: she's wonder.
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  Speaker 2: Where she clean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but yeah, that's where I said.
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  Speaker 2: Though it did slab.
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  Speaker 1: I still hear songs that we did in the class,
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  Speaker 1: and I immediately am like, burpies, this is when we did.
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  Speaker 2: I got a dancer and it was like dance dance party.
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  Speaker 2: It was, but I had the time. Yes, Mike, can
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  Speaker 2: I tell my stam? Yes? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: After I graduated college, I moved to New York City.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to live by my older sister, Lauren. I
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  Speaker 2: love how y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Left when someone starts the story and you're like, I
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  Speaker 1: already know where this is going.
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  Speaker 2: What happened?
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  Speaker 1: And I, you know, wanted to be close to Lauren.
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  Speaker 1: So I found an apartment that was like close to Lauren,
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  Speaker 1: close to our cousin who lived across the street Upper
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  Speaker 1: West Harlem. It was one hundred and fifty and Broadway,
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  Speaker 1: and this was my first apartment out of college, so
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  Speaker 1: I had to have a roommate. But it was in
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  Speaker 1: the time of like Craigslist was. It was like teetering
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  Speaker 1: on the edge of like is it crazy? Is it
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  Speaker 1: not crazy? But I took a list you used to
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  Speaker 1: really list. Yeah, you know you list. I got like
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  Speaker 1: furniture off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still find a part.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I know people who have told me in this
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  Speaker 1: calendar year they got their apartment from Craigslist.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa And okay that is yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I would never never docause nowadays they'll show you an
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  Speaker 1: apartment that's not even there. Yes, they're doing that on facebooke. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So I I toured a bunch of places. I met
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  Speaker 1: this guy this oldt How old was I like? Twenty one?
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  Speaker 2: Was like eight?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So you met this guy off Craigford's list, Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: gay guy.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought it was like he was saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: he was saying, they don't want to he don't want
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  Speaker 2: to put your No.
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  Speaker 1: I've never met a dangerous gay man and tall and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, he could protect me
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  Speaker 1: if something goes down. I it was like choos, like
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  Speaker 1: the police come, he will protect me. It was a
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  Speaker 1: two bedroom sort of small, but very cute and like
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  Speaker 1: perfect for what I needed at the time.
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  Speaker 2: After probably a year that I lived there, I would go.
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  Speaker 1: Away sometimes and I would come home and there would
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  Speaker 1: be like blankets that I didn't put on there on
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  Speaker 1: my bed, and I would be like, did you have
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  Speaker 1: friends over and there? He would be like, no, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have it. But I'd be like, this isn't my
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  Speaker 1: blanket and it's on my bed, Okay, So I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was weird. Then he would have guests for a
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  Speaker 1: certain amount of time where he would say they're just
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  Speaker 1: going to be here overnight. They would turn into like
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  Speaker 1: the weekend and then maybe like a week and I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, when's your person leaving? Then I started
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  Speaker 1: hearing him it was a very small apartment. I started
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  Speaker 1: hearing him having conversations with his friends and guests that
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  Speaker 1: he would have over saying you know what. I They
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  Speaker 1: would be like I love your TV or I love this,
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  Speaker 1: and he'd be like, you know what, I do I
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  Speaker 1: order something from like an Amazon or any store. I
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  Speaker 1: tell them that it was isn't delivered, and I asked
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  Speaker 1: them to send me another one.
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  Speaker 2: So I get two of everything, and I was like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then I walked up to my apartment door one day,
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  Speaker 1: just off work, and there was an eviction notice on
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  Speaker 1: the door. And I was not on the lease. He
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  Speaker 1: was on the lease. So I was like, so you
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  Speaker 1: have been given him your coin? Yeah, I said, we
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  Speaker 1: got an eviction notice. He was like, that's so weird.
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  Speaker 1: I pay it every month. That's so weird, so straight,
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  Speaker 1: so strange. Really why and I was like, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: is weird, but whatever. So then he kind of fixed it.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of months later, another eviction notice, second one
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  Speaker 1: came and I said, you know, this is really weird.
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  Speaker 1: It popped up again. He's like, I'm gonna call them.
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  Speaker 1: I said, actually, let me call them. Let me call him,
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  Speaker 1: because our faces is one thing I'm gonna do is due. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: some people don't like to pay it every month, but me,
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  Speaker 1: but somebody who paid it every month, always paying.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I do it daily.
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  Speaker 1: First last and a pause, yep, I always every money
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  Speaker 1: that you paid me I paid with them.
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  Speaker 2: It just went straight to them.
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  Speaker 1: They never passed through me. You know you are they
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  Speaker 1: discriminated this our money because you're maybe they saw it
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  Speaker 1: with some black money and some game and so then they.
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  Speaker 2: Threw it out.
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  Speaker 1: They threw it away. It was big, the tree, it
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  Speaker 1: was crazy. Okay, So he totally gas lit me. But
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  Speaker 1: my family was like, you need to call or stop
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  Speaker 1: paying him, pay them directly.
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  Speaker 2: I called.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they said this is not being paid. He
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  Speaker 1: and I got into some digital altercations where we would
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  Speaker 1: email each other. I basically was like, I'm gonna call
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  Speaker 1: a lawyer on you because you've been stealing my money.
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  Speaker 1: We would go back and fourth. He then flipped the script.
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  Speaker 1: Now you'll still living together, but.
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  Speaker 2: Ye kind of stopped.
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  Speaker 1: Showing up at the house or like I would spend
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  Speaker 1: all day with Lauren or at work and then go
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  Speaker 1: home when I knew he would be sleep whatever. Then
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  Speaker 1: one morning I woke up every single item of his
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  Speaker 1: was gone from the apartment, outside of trash that he
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  Speaker 1: left in the middle of every room.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, he's gone, he's gone, there's no
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  Speaker 1: trace of him, there's nothing the place still.
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  Speaker 2: But his name was on the lease. So I was
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  Speaker 2: never going to become after.
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  Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm now in a dirty apartment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm squatting, and I squatter. That's true, that's true. I
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  Speaker 1: had a little bit of time to get out. And
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  Speaker 1: the little what do they call like the alderman in
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  Speaker 1: the building, the not the landlord, but.
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  Speaker 2: The super the.
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  Speaker 1: Governor the building up classic bulbe.
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  Speaker 2: He does a decrease.
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  Speaker 1: The rock. Obama started as a building aldermen, a building
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  Speaker 1: alderman in southside Chapada, direct line to the brain. It
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  Speaker 1: was this old Caribbean woman and she was like, I
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  Speaker 1: knew he was bad from the beginning. You take however
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  Speaker 1: long you need to get out, don't worry about cleaning
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  Speaker 1: up his mess. Just clean your room and it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I have never heard from him again. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: look him up.
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  Speaker 2: I have some old emails from him that he was.
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  Speaker 1: He got he got angry and nasty so quick, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, did you call you the N word?
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  Speaker 1: He I'm sure he almost did, but he had wanted
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. Ghosted and that was my
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  Speaker 1: That's my biggest scam.
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  Speaker 2: That I've part of. That's the big one. Massive. It
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  Speaker 2: was bad. He was like slag clean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, no, bitch, I'm gonna slay you.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, and that was my friend's blanket. You get
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  Speaker 2: you and your.
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  Speaker 1: Little nappy hairs. Apartment house down boost Like.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want you here anyway, House down evictedc God,
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  Speaker 2: oh my.
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  Speaker 1: Now. My relationship to scamming is you are scamming or now.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a fine line between entrepreneurship and scamming.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so I call them serial entrepreneurs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I was younger, I was born with
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneurial spirit, and all.
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  Speaker 2: Of her businesses have taken off.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, well, you don't know why they got
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  Speaker 1: any to get in business. We're always like, that's a
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  Speaker 1: warning sign. I always say, if you want to open
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  Speaker 1: up a lemonade stand, if you want to sell candy
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  Speaker 1: at school, did we catch it? I didn't sell candy
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  Speaker 1: in school, okay, Rian, what you do?
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  Speaker 2: I sell candy in church? Asked me to stop. I
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  Speaker 2: would go to Sam's Club with my parents.
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  Speaker 1: At first, they gave me some seed money to buy
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  Speaker 1: my first bought the angelums and after service, and I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it before service. I would sell the candy bars.
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  Speaker 1: I think for one seventy five for the Mariah Charity,
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  Speaker 1: and people bought them charity. Yeah, and so the charity. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's like me when I say the United Negro College,
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  Speaker 1: fun my Negro.
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  Speaker 2: I'm united, yeah with myself, with myself and okay, hell yes.
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  Speaker 1: So I was able to, you know, keep some and
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  Speaker 1: then as we continued on, I was making way more
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  Speaker 1: than the boxes of you know what.
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  Speaker 2: You call it.
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  Speaker 1: So in any case, when the pastor asked me to stop,
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  Speaker 1: I was also a Girl Scout and.
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  Speaker 2: I were you ever a Girl Scout? No?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So when you were a girl Scout and you
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  Speaker 1: were selling Girls Scout cookies back in the day, there
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  Speaker 1: was a catalog of things you could win as like
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  Speaker 1: top selling Girl Scout. I was the only black girl
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  Speaker 1: on my Girl Scout troop and I just wasn't getting
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  Speaker 1: the sales I needed to get. So on the last day,
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  Speaker 1: I remember sitting in the parking lot of my elementary
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  Speaker 1: school with my mom. She bought I think three hundred
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  Speaker 1: boxes of cookies so I could win, and I won
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  Speaker 1: the prize and we sold those after church for about
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  Speaker 1: four weeks, always a box of cookies. Crazy supportive parents
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  Speaker 1: carried and you know you know, after you get the
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  Speaker 1: good word, you're gonna come out and you'll.
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  Speaker 2: You once you got them tang alone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah a lot. About that time, our church was let's
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  Speaker 1: say mobile, so there were times we were selling these
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  Speaker 1: in the can. We your church was let's say motile.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all going to a scam church. Churp up, I ha't
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  Speaker 1: gotta let the heat down, so we are we so
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  Speaker 1: that I think at that time we were selling them
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in like a Durian lobby, a hotel, and a high
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: school theater lobby. And I think one time at this
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: high school theater live, Yeah, we will have church in
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the auditory. Okay, actually I know somebody who has a
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: church like that. Now, were you in high school at
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the time. I was not, and were you at that?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: So so you just I was a child, so you
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: just sleep and then you were this cute child. Of
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: course that's why people would buy from her, because you'd
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: be like ha ha, it was like cute, like this.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Little girl is like, yes, the next future president scam
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: was her existed.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: If you don'tbody, I'm gonna do it. Honestly, my mom
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: spent all this money on these cookies.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: She might not be able to pay a bill.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: But she got her phone, yes, and it was the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: clear phone of the clear phone. So I just you know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I do what I think is best for me and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: my family. If that means creating and selling merch.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I will do that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And again I can. I also sell a scam that
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: has to do with the apartment in New York. Sure,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I lived with Rachel and she lived in this apartment
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: after that. Guy, Okay, it came fully furnished when I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: was living there, and I this was my first apartment
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: out of college. And then I lived there for like
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: five years and a bedroom again fully furnished, had a TV.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: When I moved out, I sold everything. Damn.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: The latter was extended in you as soon as you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I said, I've got to be moving out into a
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: studio on my own.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna sell this TV out know whose it is?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I think I sold it for four fifty Yes, you crazy,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: she's you're one of my own eyes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you're an entrepreneur, Yes, an entrepreneur. You were like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: this is so wonderful. I'm in a furnished apartment. Wow,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: just out of college, I really need this. And then
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: so that just got show coins going on.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: You were like, and yank this off the wall, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: who want this? Man that was gifted to me? Everything
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: must go.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: If they didn't know and the landlord, god bless them,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't know where it went. No, it could have
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: been them, could have been me. And now it's definitely
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I know that dude is not checking for you nothing.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You do know he would let us pay rent on
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: our terms. Yeah he was ok yeah, like he had
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: some other money on this, like the building might have
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: been lounderings for something else because I had one of
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: those when I first moved to La.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: His name was I'm not gonna say nothing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Else, okay, But he was so sweet and we paid
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: him directly because I was like, I'm not doing that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Group payment is what y'all be on. And I remember
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I got my first big TV show. It was Florida Girls.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And so I went to Savannah and shot Florida Girls.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And I came back and I was like, oh, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: got coin. Now I don't have to work at the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: restaurant no more. I ain't got to serve nobody, nothing,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: no more but yourself but myself.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And so I walked.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It was a huge place, three bedroom like one of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the old school where was La Apartments on Melros. Oh
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: nice and it's huge. And I walked in and I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, y'all, I'm back, and I think we
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: should do some renovations around because this.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Is really nice.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want to move. We can, you know, get
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the AC's that hang on the wall. I was walking
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: artil through and I was like, in the kitchen, we
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: get rid of this, this crown molder and these these
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: cabins need to go, and what about this island. We
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: could do something different with that. He said, yeah, as
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: soon as your roommates paid a rent.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And I was like what.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I was about to put a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: viction notice on your door. And he had let everybody
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: pay like the whole time that we were there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: But he reached the threshold.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So you're the only parce consistent. Yeah, that was giving
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: them grace your payment.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're carrying them on your back. And I had
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: no idea. Oh my god, real heavy. It's actually a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: story this in my books.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna go too it came, but let's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: just say by the end of it, I was calling
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the police because I was on the phone with my mother,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and they were trying to move somebody else into a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: room that I was paying to keep empty.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's like a self taper, like all this stuff.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And I went to Vegas and came back and somebody
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: was living up in there, and I.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Was like and it was like related to the person
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: who was my roommate.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And so then I'm on the phone with my mama,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like I don't know what's going on, and I have
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: my door closed.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm talking quietly.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Then they start beating on the door and they're like, Lacy,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: come out here, Lacy, we need to talk. And my
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: mom's like, call the police before dig a U size
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: hole in the backyard.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my little hole five nights. I am five nine.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, big enough for a grape fruit. No,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: people will get shifty yard and I'll get shifty back.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But also was like I didn't need the money, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: now I needed the money.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: But he was so chill about everything.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even him saying like, yeah, I was gonna
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: put in an eviction notice in a little bit.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I guess, like it wasn't like thinking about it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like those landlords you see on TV and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: movies where they'd be.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Like, where is my money on the street.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: That's someone who doesn't want to interact with the courts.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You're not going to be they They're like, I don't
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: need anyone looking over here now. Yeah. He was always
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in Mexico, Lin. Yeah, and the eviction notice would have
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: been printed from his prints, yes, yeah, it wouldn't been
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: from the same would not have come from law, absolutely.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Not, because he was always in Mexico.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And it just he gave me the vibes of like
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: someone so sweet, too sweet when he in Mexico, like
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: he's getting the looms to like beat somebody up, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: then he like gets a rag and he's like not
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: cleaning up.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So I loved all of these. Wow, y'all really came
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with Lauren you got scammed? Yeah, she was probably was
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: working for that why yes, and legitimate all her Caribbean
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and people probably saw me with my brain and they're like, oh,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it's her company.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: She put her stamp from it. They're they're coworker, yes,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the black one, yes, horrible.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And then Rachel, you did get scammed, but but actually
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you did it. I didn't because you Okay, he took
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: your money, Yes you did, but you're gonna take that
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: money anyway to give it to rent.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It just wasn't going to That's true. That's true.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, And the Caribbean lady was nice. She gave me
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: grapes and ran. You are a scamp.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I am a business woman.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: You are a serial entrepreneur, a businesswoman out there selling them.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Folks couldn't get it. It's like an episode out of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the Bonds. So let's get into our next segment. My
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: favorite segment, Historic could Wings. This is where I will
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: gale all of the Smith's sisters with a.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Mysterious con caper group of criminals. We don't know yet.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe we like them.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: We'll get them. We'll see along the way. So a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: mysterious New Hampshire man has been traveling the country running
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a classic pavement scam for years and no one can
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: catch him. He might knock on your door and if
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: he does, that means troubles in town. So this is
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: him missed the pavement.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, he looks like somebody.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Wanted in Florida, because I know this is where you
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: do things like that, right. He was accused of impersonating
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: an asphalt contractor. Police say some asphalt laid and then
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: leave without payments. Oh my god, so he would start
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the job a little bit and then leave. Yes, I've
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: heard of this. We've heard oh, then leave with payment.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, leave without that means he also
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: had to have had z some asphalts, some tools, some machinery.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: To start the job.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But I don't know when I would think someone who
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: was laying asphalt what they would need because it either.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Or that has meant but they're not the same. But
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you have to take up something asshole black stuff. Just yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: When I also say, when you said a pavement scammer,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like he was doing it all
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: on foot.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: He's so askot as.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: The material used for paving roads and other services, mixture
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of minerals.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe it's just pouring.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we probably came with buckets or like empty buckets.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And but doesn't it have to be hot? I think
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: it has to be hot.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I think it has to be hot because then they
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like block it off. You can't walk on it for
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of days. That's why we press our hands
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and our initial again that's okay, real love for concrete.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Say we do the hard.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Your signature in the asphalt, y'all to l R and Okay,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: so's he's wanted God. So his name is Henry Stanley.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: In May, police officers in Ohio issued a warning to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: business owners and residences about a suspected as fault scammer. Wow.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He showed up at businesses, says he has leftover asphalt
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: from a nearby paving job, and offers to fill the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: potholes in the parking lot at a cheap cost. So
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: he's showing up and he's like, look, I got some
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: hot fault.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I gotta use it up. Use it up.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You can I fill that up for you. Somebody just
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: busting tire in that home. Yeah, let me fault that
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: for you broken. Let me fault that for you.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Fam. Let's zoom in on these comments.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The city this is the city a ver million million department.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So the VPD has several reports of an.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Asphalt pothole filling scam being conducted surrounding the area. The
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: suspect identifies himself as Henry Stanley with a paving company.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Henry shows up at the area of the business and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: states that he's doing a paving job in that area.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: When he you know, he got some exchange yeah, okay,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and then okay, so this is just the morning, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: then people are getting shocked. Somebody says, reminds me of
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the guys two different ones who saw a big dent
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: on the rear bumper of my Saturn Aurora and offer
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to fix the cash only had to borrow the tools
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: from their boss. No thanks, especially when I don't even
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: know you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, not this man advertising for his friend.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You're just giving a testimony that was not a response
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to this. I feel like this scam requires so much work.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's like he has to get at least a little
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: bit of bashall or something looks like it. Go scope
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: out parking lots that have potholes in them that need recaring,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: hunting down the business owner, set a meeting, do an estimate.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: It's like just steal, like just somebody. This is so involved.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Scamming is a profession. So after the owner agrees, he
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: and his crew repaved large portions of the parking lot
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and then send a much higher than expected bill. Two
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Ohio businesses have already received bills of fifty thousand dollars.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: What thousand dollars? He's not just asking for a thousand dollars?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe fifty thousand dollars.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Well, should I be paid with asphalt? No? You gotta learn,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I know. Do you have to learn?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently apparently something out of a bucket.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I can do that. I have strong hand. Hi you
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: get no, No, do not. I'm gonna look at it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: He's already got hum And then if I can do
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: six parking lots.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, La is a big city. It's hell potholes,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: potholes on my way. Honestly, No, Mariah, I don't know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I have heard though.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Recently a fra end of mine was saying that she
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: hired someone to do a job at her house. It
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was like multiple con contractors and aldermen. Yeah, they did
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: half the job and then no response when she's like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: are you coming tomorrow?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: They've ghosted her. But she had already paid them the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: majority of the bill.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And that's not the first time I've heard of that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: happened to someone I know their mom. And that's why
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you can't pay them the full until it's way. And
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: contractors love to be like, oh they walked through the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: first time and be like, oh, yeah, we can have
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it's done.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It's seventy two hours.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they come back and oh, actually mean
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: twelve seventy two months. Yeah, we'll finish it. We'll finish
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the bathroom. We won't have the tower the toilet in
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: until twenty twenty nine.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: But ready then won't be late.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it's so bad, but it's an ultimate. They're like,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I know how to do enough of the job to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: where you think that I have it all together, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna roll up do part of it and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna give me all your money. I just not
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: cut out for scamming them because I feel like if
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the trouble of being on the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: hook for a scam, then I want it to be
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: such a light listing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do a little bit of work.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And then it appears he has a payroll for the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: scamp like his great Yeah, I know.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Right now, b lock it up. Okay, I have a
• 32:38
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• 33:29
  Speaker 1: in Missouri of twenty twenty four, Shery Craven's owns the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: famous Monger Moss Hotel. I've never heard of this hotel,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: but it's on sixty six in Lebanon, Missouri, and apparently
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it's famous.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Look at it's got so many, so many lights, Bill.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Red carpet in. I don't believe that there's an oil slick.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: It gives me like that you could pay about an
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: hour to lots of outdoor facing doors.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So last year, an asphalt company pulled into the parking lot.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Shelley noticed the trucks had new Hampshire plates on them,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but she assumed they moved to Missouri to start a business.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Also benefit of the Dallas Shelly, have you ever heard
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: of a rental company like just because it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Had new Hampshire plates didn't mean they moved.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: They drove directly from to the Mongermond Listen, I had
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Texas place for a year in California until my car
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: got impounded because they were like, you're not supposed to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: have Texas plates anymore. It's crazy like and it was
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in Beverly fucking Hills.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Because police don't have.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Nothing to do over there having fun, they run plates
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like no, one's just crazy.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: So a man walked.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Into the motel and said he had left over asphalt
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he needed to get rid of it. He offered to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: smooth out a section of payment in the parking lot
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and create new drainage systems. Shelley paid him eighteen thousand dollars.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: What how did she maybe that much? Because it's famous
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in Missouri. Everybody going in that motel, We're from Missouri.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Iver heard of that place, and I've been through Lebanon,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I think, and I have never seen that ever, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: not even any lights that look like no, not even
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: that famous.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Anything that's familiar.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: This sign, the lower sign that looks like a church
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: sign to bottom, Yes, that's the only thing that looks
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis or Missouri to me.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't know Munger. I don't know Moss. No,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know Munger in Moscow. This team, y'all don't
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: know her.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Wow, sorry to this motel.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Where from we never seen?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: So again, I'm gonna need to Shelley to tell us
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: how she got her eighteen thousand dollars. So he was
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: supposed to come back and finish the job. The man's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: name is obviously h so when local news reporter Ashley
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Reynolds called, he did pick up the phone. So because
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: remember it's starting to get around like that he scamming people,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: so he's using his real number also, which, yeah, he
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: needs a burner.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Let's see what the local news had to say.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: A motel owner in Lebanon thought it was a deal.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: An asphalt company pulled up an offered to repair the pavements.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Eighteen thousand dollars later, the job isn't done. She contacted
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: on your side, ls your rentals, so this doesn't happen
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: So the job was to smooth all this out right, yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: and to make make a little covet.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: For the water to run down.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Chillie Cravens at the Munger Moss Motel on Root sixty
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: six in Lebanon says she hired this guy, Henry Stanley,
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: out of New Hampshire to get the job done.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: I saw the New Hampshire plight sound thought maybe they
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: just moved here and started a business.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I just always assume everybody's not lying to you. They're
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: going to do what a right what they say. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I just fell for a hook one and sender he
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: knows what he's doing, he's less or asked all he
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: needs seet rid of. He said, I can do it
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: for a good price.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: She paid him eighteen thousand dollars astronomical. She says he
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: was supposed to come back and finish the job. That
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: was two weeks ago. Now she cannot get a hold
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: of him. I did and asked him when he'll be back, Okay,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: when will you do that? He would not answer that
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: question and hung up on me.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I called him back.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: I tried to ask him about this case two years
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: ago Henry Stanley from New Hampshire was wanted and then
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: later arrested by the Polk County Sheriff's offe is in Florida.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my, why does he keep using that name? Why
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: does he keep I have so many questions.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Also, the size of that does not equate eighteen dollars.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Well, he was also going to rig up something for
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the water, a bowl.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: He looked so incompetent, and that's yeah, she had like
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a teenager. Yes. And when someone approaches you and says
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: if I'm ever looking for a contractor they're maybe leaving
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: something on my door, they're never walking in saying I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: have all the tools necessary to do the job, pay
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: me now, and I'll do it right now.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: And they left over. Yeah left.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I can't look you up. You haven't shown me your
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: previous save it for your next job. So stupid, mister Stanley,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you are. I love how my girl had her merch
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: on them. Her hair color ye, so fresh. I take
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it back, Shelley, She'll be on the news.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you pull in, it might be a grab,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: but you don't have a good time. This is illuminating.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: How like I think lazy and non confrontational I am
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: because like the fact that she was like, it's been
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: two weeks and he hasn't come back. I would have
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: let this go for like two months. Yeah, for sure.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And they're like, you know, he did not come back.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: My thoughts would be he got killed. Yeah, optimistic, my
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: dad's something similar.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Not.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: When I had an issue in my apartment, my immediate
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: is I'm like, Shelley, I'm calling legal services.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, Rachel, I'm on your side.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Because I couldn't find my tax account for a while
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and then I googled him and somebody with the same name.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: It was an obituary, and I was like, oh, that's
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: why he's not emailing me back. He died, And then
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: he actually wasn't dead, he was just busy.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: But I did. I was like, oh, it makes sense.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Of course he didn't get The only reason someone wouldn't
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: get back to me absolutely passed away.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, there is some instance where
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that really Yeah, if you heard this on the show before,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: remember me different. But I had an email come through.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I was going, I had an assistant who not the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: last assistant. Y'all know we love Emily, but I had
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: an assistant before that who I think was actively trying
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to kill me.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I had asked her, you know, I told.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Her what places I like to go for, like the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: dentists and like areas, because like, if you're in nine
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: o two and oh, you can't be a bad dentist
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: because you got to pay that rent.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It's expensive. So I like to go over there because
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I know you got to pay that rent.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: And so she found this place and I went in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and he had bellinciaka pillows, a flat screen TV playing
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Bad Boney. Like I went in to have a tooth extracted,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and he like was like, oh, yeah, we got to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: get this tooth out, and he got one leg up
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: on the on the on the like he numbed me,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and he got one leg up on the table and
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: started yanking no. And then he was like, oh, we
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: need to put this thing in there, and to his
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: dental assistant, and the dental assistant was like.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, we ran out of those, and he was like,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: oh it's fine, And I'm like, is it fine? I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: think I need the thing.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Anyways, cut to I get an email and it's like
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: doctor so and.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: So has died.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, but we know that he would want
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you to keep your cleaning appointment. No, I'm all in
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the same email like that's what he would have wanted
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: his final wish. He died suddenly and they were like
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: what he but he wants you to keep you all appointments?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: What what? It doesn't care what.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: His back probably gave out from yank and fout once.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I have another tooth removed and I went to a
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: nicer place that I've been going to and when.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm really nervous, he was like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: why are you so shaky?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: And I was like, cause when a't gonna put your
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: foot up and we don't dan and he was like,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: we don't do that, it's not how I was like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna get the flyers, I'm just starting the
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: foot up to dental scams though, are real. I had
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: my mouth open at an appointment one time and the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: dentist was like, oh, we're in here. He basically started
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: doing a root canal and I thought I was just
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: getting a filling and he wouldn't stop, and I basically
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: was like, can you tell me what you're doing? And
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he was like it's fine, it's fine. We'll talk about
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: how much it costs later. But he just kept doing
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the work and I was like, I didn't approve this work.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Was talking about it. You were not talking about it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: It was so. I had a dentist once take three
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of my wisdom teeth out. The first day I went
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and I was walk I remember I walked. It was
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: in Harlem and it was a new dentist. It's like
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the first time I had my own insurance. I walked
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to the dentist. I was like, this is this one.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I walked my own dentist to DA They took all
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: three of my three of my wisdom teeth out. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: walked home and I was so like. I was like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: what just happened? And normally they're like, well you're gonna
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: it's a plan. Yeah, now can someone pick you up? No.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I walked home and I was spooked.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And then I had a and he said, you know what,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: it's that fresh wisdom.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Teeth yank and is a scam. If you're not having
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: an infection, it was not crown in your mouth.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: You don't need them out mine. Yeah, I have most
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: of mine, but like they do, try to run it
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: up with that will.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, they got a whole brand for it, like you
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: gotta get rid of this.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: NAT feels like that like I have every time I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: go to a new dentist. Is not that often anymore,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: but they'll be like, oh, have you ever thought about
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: getting your wisdom teeth out? They started, and I'm like,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: oh no, actually one of them is sitting on a nerve.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: They go, okay, yeah, I get her out of here.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: She just wants to clean work.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yesterday and the tooth never hurt. But then what but
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: they said it was about two They said I was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: gonna start hurt with point.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: It was like a zero point one MILLI leaders away
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: from the nerves, they.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Said, leaders. It was filling up.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But then when they did the numbing and they're like, oh,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you've had no sensitivity in this too, I was like, no,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I just came to this in dentist word cleaning. And
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: now I've been three times and I have a fourth
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: time to go next week. Dentists are they are a
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: lot of them are. They hit a nerve and my
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: tongue did feel like I got an electric shock, so
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: maybe I didn't need it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe they were like, Pope one, let's just pokee one.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: So she knowed that we're doing the right thing by
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: ripping it out. This is her one time with the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: with the Scots.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So back to.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Our man's here. What is his name again, Henry Stanley.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So this is Florida, twenty twenty two. Okay, a detective
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: with years worth of experience investigating and charging traveling asphalt
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: scam artists, which is a Niche yes, when I grow up,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I adam.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Scammers.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: So he drove by several men performing what appeared to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: be possibly a go asphalt work in a convenience store
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: parking lot. I don't know how how do you know?
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Because he probably is like, oh, they're just like throwing it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe he knows, like what the works as.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: An expert, an expert right field.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So thirty six year old Raymond walk third of Michigan
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: claimed to be the owner of Country Asphalt and Trucking
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: LLC with award the side.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I oh god, he really did not want to get caught.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: He's like, y'all can take the picture. I'm not gonna
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: look look though, up high and up I can say
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: this wasn't me. You're never gonna know.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: He does have the face of every white man. He
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: could just be like, this is not me.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: That's not me. A haircut and a shave. He got
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a whole life different. Yes, yes, put his neck now.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know who he is.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: He claimed to be the owner of country An Asphalt
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Trucking LLC with a Davenport, Florida ad dress right so,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: which was actually a UPS store PO box so his
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: address was the UPS Store. What can Brown scam for you?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Along with accomplished twenty eight year old Henry Stanley of
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire Harry thirty one year old David Minievar of Texas,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: he pressured the convenience store out loner to allow them
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to pay the parking lot work initially asked for I'm sorry,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Walk initially asked for five thousand dollars, but convinced the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: victim to pay seven thousand dollars instead. Stanley then instructed
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the victim to write a seven thousand dollars check payable
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to Walk. That's Raymond Walk that we saw before. Oh
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: this is the other guy, David. Oh he's not cute.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Black under eye. Yeah, he looks dead competent, he looks tall.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: He definitely looks tall. But is that it simple?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: He shipped his Fuck, I don't know, I no, he
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: looks I'd rather I trust him out all of them.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: No, Henry's my boy.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: He looked like he was like lays he works hard,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he works hard, he's on a TLC show.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, he looks like rejected property brothers.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, also them now splitting Henry, going from eighteen k
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: by himself to seven split between three.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Business is tough.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: He needed more convincing rooms, and I think people were
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: getting worried of one guy.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: He was like, what if we were three guys, then
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: then we're not suspicious no more so.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Stanley then instructed the victim to write a seven thousand
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: dollars check payable to this strange looking man up here,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Raymond Walker. He was told to Walk wanted to cash
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it immediately and did not have a bank account in
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Florida because like so.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: The victim was like, why do you need this right now?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And they were like, we need to cash it immediately,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and we don't got no banks here. We don't you
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: know how banks they don't be in Florida. Yes, yes,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Gess Kidder, Yeah, those molastically non niche bank.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so detectives learned.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Earlier that same day, David pressured a second victim who
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: owns a business on Spirit Lake Road in winter Haven
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: into paying fifty three hundred dollars to pave the driveway
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: area of their business parking lot.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they're still getting the eight k.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: They're getting closed smaller smaller, And why is everyone's driveway
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and such disrepair?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Whether we're paying taxes and they not feeling no power?
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Every time I drive over pothole and no lamb, like
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: where is my money?
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Why am I bumping along?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I will say in defense of la why but there
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: is a pothole on my street?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It never so it looks like a sinkhole almost.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: It gets repaved every three weeks and then it unpaves itself.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Do they not let it set long enough?
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: No?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It's like it were fuse us to close. It refuses
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: to be closed. Yeah, they're like construction workers, like paved light?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Can we runs our uh?
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I might be able to shed some light here?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: So the difference between asphalt and concrete that we were
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: talking about earlier, asphalts like a cheaper version of concrete,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: more cost effective, but the elements that are involved in
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: it are like cheaper and more affordable. So that's why
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: potholes are filled up with asphalt because it's quicker and cheaper,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: so they don't have to take as much to do
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the full conca So it looks like over time the
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: pothole gets you know, loses the asphalt, because it does
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: because it's cheap.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: The more these people paying these premiums for as kind.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, they are because they don't know the difference.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: We all we didn't know the difference. Just wow. Wow.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: The asphalt laid at this location was already deteriorating and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: crumble into gravel. No site preparation was completed, no tax
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: code or binder course was used, and the asphalt temperature
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: was not keeping hot enough for a proper application because
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: they got it in the in the truck.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not eating it. They don't have the it's
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: not on the stone. Put it, that's gonna keep it warm.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: We got all our ass fault in this in this igloo. Yes,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: traveling with the microwave, they like, put it in for
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds, then pour it out.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, you gotta run the board out.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Have on some mits, okay, because it's gonna's butter, it's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: literally buttered.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: On the second it's gonna be cold, so two additional
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: asphalt victims in the area came forward. The scammers used
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: multiple different telephone numbers during these transactions, and according to
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: David Minjibar, those involved in the County Asphalt and Trucking
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Company LLC stayed at various hotels and the Kissing Me
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: area each night and did not stay in the same location,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: making it hard for anyone to locate representatives of the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: asphalt company after work had been completed. So they stayed moving. Yeah,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: my god, this is horrible. They ever ended up staying
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: at the famous hotels.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: They circled back. They can't go back there again. They're
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: just bleeding money on all this travel for why.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: But they're going to like motels. You could get a
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: motel for pretty cheese. But he counts when you're so
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: hard of that eighteen thousand, seven thousand and fifty three
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: hundred and undisclosed amount from two of the people. So
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: they might have a probably around like forty five and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: yap and they was just staying at motels. So Raymond
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Walk was arrested for scheming to commit fraud, fraud, grand theft,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and failure to secure workers comp insurance. He was released
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: after paying an eight thousand dollars bond, so I had
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: some going to the boss. Yeah, this guy raised the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: bond fun. Henry Stanley and David Minjibar were later arrested
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: and served two months behind bars. But today Henry is
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: still out there making his way from the Eastern Seaboard
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: through the Midwest, praying on unsuspecting victims who don't know
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: how asphalt paving jobs should work. Wow, still going in
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the streets crazy And also like I I'm looking at
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: this picture of them and them and their reflective best
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and this looks official to the nine.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: But I also bought one of those off you did
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: for a joke.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I bought them at Walmart so that we could trick
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: people into letting us film in the streets. Yeah about Yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, we don't have a permit for this part.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Just put on this vest and hold Johanda.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, one's gonna question that we need a more
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: savvy public when it comes to reflective best.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: We do, because if you got a reflective best.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, right this way, sir, Okay, I
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: can't pass these cones.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I got a cone in my car. Yeah, and I.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Definitely did use when I was working at paramount, like
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I stole a cone and because like if I would
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: leave for lunch or something, always be gone. So I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: was get in the back, get my cone and stick
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it out, yep and nod.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Everybody respected the cane. Everybody. You don't not respect them.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Now because it takes more energy to maneuver around or
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: to ask somebody about the car. No, just find this
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: is mine. I put the cone here. So paving, someone
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: knocks on your door offering to touch up your driveway
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: for a discount, that could be him.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Because he's out here.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: He's out here, So you got to say not just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: in Florida, not just in the middle.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Happy, Our mom will be listening.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, don't open the door, mom, Yes, not for this.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Don't have none of this repaves. So according to Reddit,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I have extra ass all. I'll give you a good
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: deal if you act now. This is a bit that's
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: been known and widely used to scam for a very
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: long time. Victims have come forward from Florida, Georgia, Indiana,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and New Jersey. Better Business Bureau has asphalt pavers on
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: their scam Tracker report, and Paving Professionals dot Com has
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a five step guide to avoid falling into these monolesca
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: because I know the paving professionals are like, they're taking
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: our money and making us look sc Look at this
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: machinery you do if you're scamming. Henry does not have
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: carry got a bucket at a spoon? Yes, and he's like,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: here a paint brun you know, how will you make
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: a sheet cake and you just spoon up? That's what Yeah,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: he's doing, he's not doing. That's how a reporter knew.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: He was like, how y'all laying pavement and you don't
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: have one of.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Because they would have been an easily spot. Yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: No, he's like, no, no, no, we got and noticed the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: young man doesn't even have a best so they had
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: bought that for nothing. Yeah, it's not a best profession.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: We got reflective best buckets and spoon and extra asphalt
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: and no, no, no, it's because we like to really
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: make sure our asspot is down. We're all about precision. Yes,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: those big machines, you never know what you're gone. But yeah, okay,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: think about it. How would you put your butter's machine?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Get a big rig to put butter on your rolls?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: No, you would get a small butter night a rub
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and you let it set. Okay, okay something. So how
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to avoid an asphalt paving scam which I didn't know
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: we needed to avoid these? Yes, because I'm a millennial one,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I don't known property yet.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Lauren laughing like she doesn't. Right, I've been to
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: your house. I've literally been to your house that was
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: supported last. I've literally been to your house. Me and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Mariah didn't last were like the same, all of us
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: homes like wish I had a home? Oh my god?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: So how to avoid them?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: The number one most obvious sign that you're going to
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: be scammed is that the contractor shows up at your door.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: It seems it seems it's like I didn't ask for
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: this rite a surprise reno.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: It's like if a plumber showed up and was like,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: y'all got anything closed? Oh you know what, how y'all
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: pipes doing three bathrooms?
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Actually, they would get me on that one, right, I'll
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: be like, come snake this shower for me, real sneak. Most,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: if not all, reputor contractors will not perform door to
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: door sales. Be very wary of any contractor that just
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: sews up to your door. There's no such thing as
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: leftover asphalt. Henry, that alone, that is such a horrible,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: so bad point, just so you know.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: But it's like, baby, come here, sit down to tell
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: you something, to tell you this.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: There is no such thing as leftover as it doesn't exist.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: It must be at a very precise temperature to be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: compacted successfully, and there's no time to drive around trying
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: to unload extra Asphalt is set up and finished through
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: a compaction process. If it's not compacted while at the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: optimal temperature, it will not achieve the proper densities and
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: will lose It will become a loose aggregate that will
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: crumble apart and deteriorate. Asphalt is a recyclable material and
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: it's processed back into aggregation state. Okay, this is getting
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: very complicated. So basically, like the asphalt gotta be hot.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: If it's not, you can make it hot again. But
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: it's got to be mixed with new asphalt. You can't
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: just be like, I got some leftover asphalt, and you
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: also need like emulsion, sand, fresh rock, all this stuff
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to make that new asphalt. So due to the price
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: and temperature constraints of the material, no reputable pain company
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: would have a substantial amount of asphalt leftover, nor would
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: it be usable coming from another job. So like we
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: don't even companies don't just keep it in the freeze.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Let's just keep some extra as you should probably have.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: To also think of like the depth of the hole,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: the size of the hole, and so it's very precise. Yeah,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm like Shelley paying eighteen for that small
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: little dip she was tripping.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, takes pride in her business. She's in
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: the water.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: What are other things that can't be left over? I'm
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: trying to think, huh, asphalt can be left over. Well,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like if I went to, for example,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: like to get my hair braided, I wouldn't feel comfortable
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: if my hairsouts. Was like, oh, I have this half
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: open bundle that I used half on somebody else. I'll
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: use the other, you know, half on you. I don't
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I want a fresh for Yeah, I'm thinking like somebody's like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: oh I just had surgery.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: We got half a candy left? Yes, yes, do you
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: want it?
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I know you on the list. It's still fresh, it's
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: still fresh. We just got it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: We just got it. It's in the cooler. We only
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: got half of it. If you want it, I don't
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: think you could have certain things.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: If there's this is another bullet point.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: If there's no written and signed contract up front before
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: any work is done, that's a dead giveaway that your
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: target of a scam and about to get robbed or
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: get very poor quality. They're like, oh no, we don't
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: need to sign nothing. We got the truck right out here,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: get them spoons and get them got a bucket.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: But that's interesting.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I think most people would think, well, if I'm not signing,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: it's not a scam, you know.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Then they can't.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not like I put my name on
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: something bizarre. O. Lord, I'm terrified that Stanley and his
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: friends are going to go through this bullet list and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: figure out a counting yes, and now they're going to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: have contracts and everything, and then they're gonna explain why
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: their asphalt doesn't mean yes, it's a special s.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Y you know. In twenty five right, we got a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: new mixture.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: We got as we got this on chat gee. This
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: is a three D asphalt. We just printed it out
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: in the truck.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: This asphalt they don't want you to know about it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, fall, that's why keeping us down, That's why the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: prices are so.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: High, and that's why we drive regular cars.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Keep below you just you just hit on the last
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: boy here pavers driving Mark trucks. Mariah wrote the lift
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Mariah's is his. I don't want to talk about it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Why do you have some left over after this? Okay?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know I do. I'm gonna follow me home. Yeah,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I'll follow. It's gotta stay high.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Or they have plates or phone numbers from out of
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: states are another good indication that this crew is traveling
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: paving company and probably looking to scam you, so I guess.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: And then the last point is they have no online reviews.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Because they have no online present. Yes, it ain't no
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: happy Now.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: If I'm in California, somebody got Montana plates and they're like, yeah, hey,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: miss uh, your driveway looking kind of wrinkly. I got
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: some leftover as for for my last job. Come in
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: in Montana. Imagine, go ahead and get slave caliform.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: You are fifty.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Dollars yea not need a cool eighteen steal? Even better,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: it's a steel and a deal. What I'm saying, I say,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: steel man, I mean yeah, this is so insane sad.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Final thoughts on us on the asphalt scammer.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I to me, this is like the most masculine mane scam.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Like it's like me and two other dudes, we're gonna
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: go threaten to do manual labor and then walk away. Yeah,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: it's like so half baked and so like toxically masculine.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's like they should have I feel like they
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: just picked like the most bob the builder ass like scam.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: That is just so basic to me.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: And my thought was, you know, one of them likely
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Henry accidentally did this once, like he maybe working with
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the contracting company where it kind of like maybe there
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: was an next door neighbor or something who was like, oh,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: just use the extra asphalt to do our driveway too.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: We'll take the money. And he was like, oh if
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I can just do. Like it seems like they know
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem just enough planned, like this is exactly
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: how I'm gonna scam. They fell into it and it
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem lucrative enough to continue.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems also boring.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Very boring, like an on one for yea, and also
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: like you're having to like kind of sell people and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: beg them and stuff.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: You have to be very extroverted.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's like social battery on e Yeah I can't,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if you even have to sell it.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: You just be like, look this hole you got right here,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Let me want that fixed or not. Yeah.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: It's like when you get those tickets in your car.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: My last car, I would get these. I was so offended.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: It was like, we buy junk cars. Excuse me? Oh
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: my god, I guess like then't want me to call
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: yeah my car. You're begging my car?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: You know. It's like he just putounced business cards and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: he's like, whoever calls car, right, my car identifies as junk.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Bring it all over here. I knew it was a scam.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this is I won't say it's
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: a lazy scam because you gotta work real hard and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: be out in the sun and working with your asphalt
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: even find an assholet even know how to find it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: It just seems easier to just pave people's driveways.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can you do a good I mean I don't
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: get paid the full price doing the full jobs.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Also, now that we know that asphalt is such a mixture,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you're buying so many things to even put something together.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: They're only buying like, yeah, one part of it, I think,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: which is how they're getting away.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: They don't got the sand. They don't got They'll be like.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, we actually have to go somewhere to get the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: rest of it and we'll be back tomorrow.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: You're right back, right.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: They don't got the n C do OT certified asphalt,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: which I knew that off the top of my head.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Car every one does you know?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I know all about as it needs fresh average. Yes, well,
• 1:05:08
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