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The Vikings are Terrible, We did the Unthinkable, The Beer was Really Good | TSH Ep. 115 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: of The Goal Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. Where's
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: this a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: beer and talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking of the Vikings, v I have to say,
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  Speaker 2: it just not good this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if the game against the Packers was any indication, no,
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  Speaker 1: they are not.
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  Speaker 2: We do have some good news though. For this episode,
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  Speaker 2: we tried a really good festive you know, time specific
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  Speaker 2: beer from Reunion and field Day Brewing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, super good beer. And we also took a peek
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  Speaker 1: ahead at the Sam donald revenge game as the Vikings
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  Speaker 1: travel to Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Sam Donald's gonna have plenty of opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to get as much revenge as he wants against his
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  Speaker 2: former team. But until then, go ahead and grab a
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: cold one and join us for episode one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will say. We do have a mutual
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  Speaker 1: Thanks?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, ev Sunday was a very special day.
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  Speaker 2: It was a glorious day with magical things happening. And no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the Vikings, Evan. It was your
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  Speaker 2: birthday on Sunday, the day the Vikings really crapped the
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  Speaker 2: bed against the packers, So I'm sorry that happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, your description did not quite add up to the
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  Speaker 1: experience that I lived out, but that's okay. But like
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  Speaker 1: sheiate the kind words.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I texted you, we've all had the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: let us down. And the worst spot ever, my birthday
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  Speaker 2: is right around the time it has routinely landed on
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl has landed on my birthday before, so
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings had the chance to rip my heart out.
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  Speaker 2: It'll probably never happen, I guess at this rate, but
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  Speaker 2: if they ever made the Super Bowl, they've got the
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  Speaker 2: chance to rip my heart out on my birthday too.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: But Evan, happy birthday. I may have gotten you a
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  Speaker 2: little little bit of something. So if you're not watching
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: us on YouTube or Spotify, you should probably switch over
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  Speaker 2: to there. Now. I did get Evan a gift, so
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  Speaker 2: happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Shake it. See what it is?
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  Speaker 2: I might bite. These are.
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  Speaker 1: Three D stadium. Oh there's two things nice. So two
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  Speaker 1: things here, three D stadium replica coasters. That's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Got the nice inlay of US Bank Stadium. There, I
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  Speaker 1: know exactly where we've sat, both you and I at
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  Speaker 1: several games now. And then a bottle opener, which we'll
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  Speaker 1: keep right here at the school hot school Man Center.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: But a Vikings helmet bottle opener. I almost bought some
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  Speaker 1: bottles overfect. We'll get to our beer in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe that one was more of a Christmasy beer,
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  Speaker 1: and we're coming up sure Christmas. Maybe that one will
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  Speaker 1: make an appearance and we'll get to Chris and this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one's cool because the face mask of
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings helmet is what actually opens the battle, and
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  Speaker 2: it's a magnet So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Thanks man, Yeah, no problem, happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really sorry that the Vikings didn't give you a
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  Speaker 2: better gift than what they gave you.
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  Speaker 1: All I really wanted was peace and quiet to watch
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  Speaker 1: the game, and my family gave me that.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So that was nice.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Well, I'm glad that you were able to watch
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  Speaker 2: the whole game in peace and nothing caused you pain
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  Speaker 2: during that experience.
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  Speaker 1: Oh don't get me wrong. It was a frustrating game
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  Speaker 1: and I was yelling at the TV the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: But that's beside the point. We got to spin the wheel. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say beer, but you're right.
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  Speaker 2: We do have to spin the wheel because we were
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  Speaker 2: idiots in the preseason and predicted the Vikings to beat
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  Speaker 2: the Packers. I predicted it, You predicted it, both of
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  Speaker 2: our wives, all of our kids. Even the coin predicted
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  Speaker 2: a Vikings victory over the Packers. And it wasn't even close.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was further away from a victory than
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  Speaker 2: the infamous Josh Freeman Monday Night football against the Giants
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  Speaker 2: game was. That was a closer game than this one
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  Speaker 2: against the Packers, and probably a better quarterback too. But
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  Speaker 2: because of that we get to spin the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, without further ado, here we go. We're
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  Speaker 1: running out of options. But we have to wear a
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  Speaker 1: Bears jersey.
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  Speaker 2: So what do we do? We only have one?
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you want to split it? And I'll wear
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  Speaker 1: it for half the episode and you'll wear it for
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  Speaker 1: half the episode.
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  Speaker 2: That's one way to go. We also have we.
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  Speaker 1: Have Lions and Packers jerseys. We could just bite the bullet.
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  Speaker 1: You had to wear a Lion's jersey already.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I did, and that that was not fun. I
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: don't know what do you think.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be the bigger man. I'll take the Packers jersey.
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  Speaker 2: You can take the Bears jersey. So we're gonna We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to explain this at various points of the episode.
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  Speaker 2: Why we are wearing this garbage. I got all these
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  Speaker 2: jerseys on eBay, spent very little amount of money. Bears
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  Speaker 2: one one that's terrible. It's smelly, It's got a big
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  Speaker 2: old stain on the belly.
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  Speaker 1: This just feels wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even look at this feels wrong. That's that's awful.
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  Speaker 2: You know there's gonna be screenshots, probably all right, I
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  Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna put this thing on. At least I'll
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  Speaker 2: still have my Vikings hat on.
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  Speaker 1: Put the Vikings back on. You need that. That is
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  Speaker 1: an important aspect of of the ensemble here. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we we did this to ourselves. I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing we can say about it, and it just
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  Speaker 1: feels so wrong. We we should not have been so
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  Speaker 1: optimistic about the Vikes. We have plenty to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that way, because boy oh boy, was Sunday a disappointing game.
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  Speaker 2: That's the understatement of the season. Sunday was a game
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  Speaker 2: that took our hopes and dreams for not only Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: not only your birthday. Man, this jersey is not the area,
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  Speaker 2: but it took our hopes and dreams for the future,
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  Speaker 2: for the state of the franchise, for the state of
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback position. It was about as low as I
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  Speaker 2: have ever felt as a Vikings fan.
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  Speaker 1: This is unrelated but will maybe make you laugh. We're
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  Speaker 1: both wearing running back jerseys.
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  Speaker 2: I do have a Justin Fields number one, and you have.
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  Speaker 1: Eddie lac seven. Yeah. Yeah, this is actually a nice
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  Speaker 1: jersey in terms of like quality quality.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one would be too, But it was. This
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  Speaker 2: one was literally a dollar on eBay.
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  Speaker 3: It.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like it smells like poop, but
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  Speaker 2: it needs a good wash and some bleach. Maybe the
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  Speaker 2: stain you can't really see on the podcast, but it's there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these jerseys look terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Let's drink some beer and forget about that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, to my future children, to the future, my children
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  Speaker 2: in the future. I'm not having future children. I have
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  Speaker 2: as many as i'm gonna have. To my children in
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  Speaker 2: the future who are watching this, I'm so sorry. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just I'm so sorry. We need to drink some beer.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I grabbed the beer tonight. This is field
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  Speaker 1: Day Brewing along with Reunion. I guess I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: really notice that. I thought it was just Reunion, But
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: I think this is a collaboration between field Day and Reunion.
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  Speaker 1: Now that I'm inspecting the can a little more closely.
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  Speaker 1: This one's called Charlie's Brown Ale. It's the Great Pumpkin
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  Speaker 1: Spiced Brown Ale, and I think that's a play on
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Charles Schultz cartoon definitely not Charles Schultz, with the
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  Speaker 1: like the zombie getting his eye eaten out.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a bird. It's a zombie Charlie Brown. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: with his I being you pulled out by a hawk.
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  Speaker 2: That's not just a bird, it's some kind of hawk
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  Speaker 2: and he's in the great pumpkin. It's actually pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: I like this. This can art and hopefully the beer
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  Speaker 2: is just as good.
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  Speaker 1: I'll read the description quick. It looks like this is
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  Speaker 1: Reunion's beer, but in collaboration with field Day. It says,
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  Speaker 1: brood with our buddies at field Day Brewing. This rich
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  Speaker 1: and bold brown ale is spiced with a cozy blend
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  Speaker 1: of cinnamon, fresh ginger juice, nutmeg, and vanilla. The perfect
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  Speaker 1: treat for trumping through the pumpkin patch or a Ghoules
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  Speaker 1: night out. So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome. It's dark. It is a very dark looking beer.
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  Speaker 2: Even the even the foam on the top has got
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  Speaker 2: a nice dark color. Uh, I'm not getting in aroma yet.
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  Speaker 2: I figured I would get like like the spiced aroma.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Look at that. Look at the head rotation on that.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's like seven eighths of the glass.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what a what a pore of Yeah? This
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: is I mean usually when I hold the beer up,
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: even if it's a darker one. I can see some
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: light coming through with our studio lights. Here nothing, there's
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: no light coming through at all. And I'm I'm kind
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: of excited this. This is like a black ale and
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be a little sweet. I'm excited to
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: try it. Five Yeah, not so bad at all.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Not a heavy hitter school school that's really rich. It's
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: really the spice mix is really complex.
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  Speaker 2: I figured like that. Does it say it's a so
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: I guess the title might be a little miss. It
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  Speaker 2: says it's the Great Pumpkin Spiced Brown Ale, So I
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's meant to have any pumpkin flavor.
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  Speaker 1: It definitely has some like the nutmeg and stuff kind
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  Speaker 1: of reminds me of like a pumpkin pie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not like a straight up I feel
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  Speaker 2: like we recently are not terribly long ago had like
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: a maybe it was even last year, had a legit
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: like pumpkin ale. It was this season and this one
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting and I'm not complaining about it. I'm
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: not getting a lot of pumpkin from it. I am
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: getting the fall spices, the nutmeg, Like you said, the
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  Speaker 2: fall spices. So I like it a lot, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: really glad that it's not overly pumpkinny, because I'm not
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: a huge fan of those like pumpkin pie ales.
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  Speaker 1: This would be this, And I was drawn to this
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: because this is Thanksgiving week. We're going to be celebrating
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: with our families on Thursday. But this just looks like
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: a good Thanksgiving beer. And like I said, a little
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: bit ago, I thought about reaching for a Christmas beer
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yet, no, no, not yet. We're not
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: the Christmas yet. Although my family convinced me to put
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: up our Christmas stuff.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: I noticed you have not one, but I noticed at
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: least two Christmas trees.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: And we always have two. We have the big one
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  Speaker 1: for the adults and the little one for the kids.
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  Speaker 2: Nice and only a little bit of judgment. They didn't
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: look like real trees there.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, we don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: You don't go and cut down the tree.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: And definitely not and I know that you do. Props
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: to you for holding that tradition, but you will never
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: see me at the tree farm. I saw well. First
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: of all, a trip like that with my family would
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: be chaotic. Second of all, and my wife and I
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: both agree that a live tree in our house is
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: not something that will ever do.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: We both we both grew.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Up in fake tree families. I remember my parents having
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: a real tree like once or twice, and so did
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: my wife when she was a kid. And we both
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: were like, yeah, the cats got in it, the needle
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: went everywhere. It was a mess. So we just were
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: fake tree people for life.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We actually just bought a new tree.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Nice, So I say, you posted up your old one.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the big tree is new. It's nice.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, I mean it looks great, and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's really all that matters about the memories. But yeah,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: the real tree life, that's it's a fun experience. My
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: kids every year they've they've gotten to go and you know,
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: help me cut the tree down by touching the saws.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: I move it a little bit, and then you know,
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: dragging the tree out. I always try to carry it
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: instead of dragging it. I don't want to lose too
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: many pine needles on the ground. But yeah, then you
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: just keep it watered and it's really not too bad to.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Do a little Christmas vacation. Put on the hockey mask
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: and get the chainsaw and that whole thing I've.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I've never seen that movie.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: You've never seen Christmas Vacation.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: No, Oh my gosh, it's kind of like a thing
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: about me. I there's most most movies I haven't seen.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, I why would I wear at
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: he mask?
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Because that's what chevy Chase does in It's hilarious. All right,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: we should watch it.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: It's good. All right, I'll look it up sometime. But no,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: you just you go with a saw and you cut
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: down there. And these trees are not difficult to cut down.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I mean you're talking like a four inch at the
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: most three four inch diameter. Five minutes of a sawn
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: and it's it's down. And yeah, and then you have
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: a real tree in your in your house for a month.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: And you know what I do.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I just go to the basement and I get the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: two boxes out and bring it upstairs. I put the
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: three pieces together and I plug it in and Merry
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Christmas everybody.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: There you go. I mean, all right, baham bug to
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you too. I'm just kidding. Let us know in the
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: comments if you're a real tree or a fake tree,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: and tell Evan why he's wrong for not getting a
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: real tree.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: We have a fake tree for the schoolhop we put
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: it up last year.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Oh we did. We even we had some lights up.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: You kind of went all out. I forgot about it.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: It's all in a box right over here. It's coming
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  Speaker 1: out of again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: We'll deck the halls.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Keep your eyes peeled. We'll turn this place into Valhallow
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: real quick.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: On the beer note, really quick. Episode one oh five,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: we had back Pockets Pumpkin Ale. So that was just
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: ten episodes ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, not too long ago, back when we had hope. Yeah,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: for our team.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: When was that September fifteenth?
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were still right before, right after the first game.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yep, we were still very much like, all right, twelve wins,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: eleven wins, that's not even like mathematically possible anymore.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: No, they're four and seven right now, is that right? Yeah?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I think, And so the most wins they could get
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: is ten wins. I don't see that happening. One thing
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: that could be happening, though, is Ax Brosmer potentially could
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: start as many games this year as JJ McCarthy. Today
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell and his press conference announced and of course,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: if you're listening to us at all, and you follow
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the team. I'm not breaking any news here, but uh, yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: today Kevin O'Connell announced that I don't know if I
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: was on the trip home from Green Bay or just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: overnight JJ McCarthy kind of well, the way Kevin O'Connell
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: described it was kind of weird and really sketchy to me,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: but he basically said JJ was, uh experiencing symptoms and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: after their medical evaluators, and I think he even said
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: like the independent doctor, which I didn't. I guess I
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: didn't really think about the fact that I knew they
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: had like the independent neurologists on the sideline during game days,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: but it sounds like they just have one around all
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: the time. I guess I don't know. But yeah, after
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: all that, they decided to put Jevin this this five percenter. Man,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's really hitting me. I just had to put
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy into the concussion protocol. And if you've if
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you ever thought the term soft benching was appropriate at
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: all this year, I think more so for me than
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the ankle injury, this is definitely a soft benching in
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: my mind.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Well, let's be clear, as of right now, at eight
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: forty five on Monday night. It's unclear whether or not
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: JJ will play or not this coming week at Seattle,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: which is also the timing of it is interesting because
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's the Sam Donald reunion game, playing at Seattle, playing
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: against Sam Donald, who led our favorite team to fourteen
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: wins last year. But as of right now, in this moment,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy has not been ruled out.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, and he is.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: In concussion protocol. And if he's ruled out because of
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: his progress on the concussion protocol, then Rosmer will get
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the start, which I think a lot of Vikings fans
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: are pounding the table for after six pretty rough games
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to start JJ's career. But we should start with some positives.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: There weren't many, no, but my rose will do roses
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and thorns. My rose was that the run game seemed
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: strong in the first half before they abandoned it. Yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of caveats. There seems strong well in.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: The first half eventually before they went away from it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You know, once the score gets to be what it is,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to abandon the run a little career.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: You can't, you can't stick with it. I think I
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: didn't save the tweet I don't know who tweeted it,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: and I don't remember exactly what it said, but I
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: think somebody tweeted an actual stat that their run their
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: planned run calls in the first half was the most
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: percentage of running plays Kevin O'Connell had ever called in
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: his head coaching career in the first half of a game.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So there's something there. It's like Kevin O'Connell heard from
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the fans and maybe from other people who have more
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: authority over him, that hey, don't abandon the run. You
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: have to run the ball, and he's it almost feels like, fine,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I'll run the ball. See what happens. And when it
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't turn into wins either, it's like he's saying, like, see,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm not running the ball all the time.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it was working a little bit.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I think it was working. And I think that was
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: when JJ was playing decent. I mean, he wasn't playing great,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: he wasn't playing lights out, but he was playing okay.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And something I think we need to talk about, probably
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: not right now on this thread because I want to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: hear your rose, but I think we need to talk
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: about what we kept saying about JJ at the beginning
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of the season, and friend of the show Dustin Baker
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: said this too. He just needs to be a good
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: manager of the game, and he just needs to He
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be great. He doesn't need to be
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the next Patrick Mahomes, he doesn't need to be, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the next coming of Joe Montana. He just needs to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: be good. And it's interesting how far he's fallen even
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: from that. Like, he's not good. He has not played
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: well at all. He's played pretty bad. But in those
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: moments in the first half, I thought to myself, Okay,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: if they can just stick with the run, if they
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: can just keep feeding Mason and Aaron Jones. You know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I think I texted you at one point, like, man,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it'd be awesome to see Aaron Jones get a Lambeau leap.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Of course that never happened because the Vikings never found
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the end zone. But I think sticking with the run
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: game could have been a little bit more beneficial. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I think there's there's got to be some balance to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: this office offense, especially with the quarterback whiplash that we've
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: had this year and the offensive line woes. You've got
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: another offensive line, you had two offensive linemen that went
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: out in that game. I think did Donovan Jackson and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Darisago down? That's right, So all the more reason I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: think to stick with the run in a lot of ways.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But anyways, I want to hear.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Your rose, well, my rose, if we're still looking for
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: silver linings, here will record. I mean, his first kick
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: attempt was the fifty nine yarder, I believe, just a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: heck of a kick outside in Lambeau. I don't I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: don't remember. I don't know exactly how windy it was bad,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: but it was still outside in Lambeau. A fifty nine yarder.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: That's a tough kick for anybody. And Will Rekard, I
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: think he's only missed. He's something like eight for ten
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: on fifty plus yard kicks this year something like that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: You can please correct me if I'm wrong on that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But he has been automatic all year long, I think,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm pretty positive on this. Maybe you can fact
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: check on this too.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: He's from fifty plus yeah, and those.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Those two I think were the ones that people think
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: he may have hit the wires, hit the wire, yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But in his career, he is he's never missed an
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: extra point, and so all of last season and then
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you know, so far this season and he's only ever
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: missed let's let's just do it really quick. He missed
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: no way two kicks last year, and he's up to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: six kicks this year, So eight kicks out of fifty three.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm only counting two kicks missed this year.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: You're still looking at the fifty plus.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I guess I'm confused with Yeah, this year, we
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: say what you said.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: This year will record overall and field goal is twenty
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: one for twenty three. Yes, and last year he was
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: twenty four for thirty. And remember last year he kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of dealt with a little bit of injury. Well, he
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: got injured, and then when he came back, he was
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: still kind of figuring himself out. I think that's where
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: most of those miskicks are. So in his career, he's
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: forty five for fifty three of any field goal that
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: makes more sense out of twenty three games, twenty four
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: games he's played. And then again he's a perfect fifty
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: seven for fifty seven on extra points will Rekerd. That's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: for his whole career. He's been automatic one of the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: better quasiadapa mensa draft picks, which for a kicker. The
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Vikings have had a long history of kicking woes, so
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: it feels good to finally have that position wrapped up.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And it was the same yesterday. He only attempted two
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: field goals, but he made both of them. Both of
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: them were fifty plus yard field goals.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So I picked him up in fantasy. He got me
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: ten points.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. Yeah, because those longer ones are worth more. Yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: in most leagues I've heard of. There's another podcast in
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the Norse Code and I brought this up on our
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: show before, but they have an annual I forget that
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: what they call it, but it's a league where I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: think the scoring is the same, you know, throughout everything
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: else in the league, but kickers, if they miss any kick,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's any kick, extra points or field goals,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: it's minus twenty five points. So it could totally derail
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: your entire week if your kicker misses one kick.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Gotta have a good kicker on your roster.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's like the death League or whatever
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they call it. But yeah, Will Record would be the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: perfect kicker to have in a league like that, because
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: every kicker is going to miss one or two at
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: least throughout their year. Yeah, will record so far perfect
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and perfect yesterday. That's why he was my.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Rose all right, thorns Mine is no surprise, and we
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: will definitely talk about this ad nauseum for the rest
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of the episode. But JJ just does not add up
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to be an NFL quarterback in the six games. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I think we're finally at a point where the sample
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: size is big enough to be able to say that
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: he's not there. And that's not to say that he
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: can't get there eventually, But in history and in my lifetime,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know that we've ever seen a quarterback play
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: worse through six games that magically gets it turned around.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I know, like a couple of weeks ago, people were saying, well,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's first year was really bad, and I think
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: there were some other big names they're on out there.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I saw the there's a commercial. I think that's gonna
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: come out or there's some maybe it's not a commercial,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: maybe it's in like a Netflix show. But Peyton Manning
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was rubbing his brother about zero point zero qbr or
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: something and asking like, what does it take to attain
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a zero point zero qbr? So obviously there have been
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: like quarterbacks that have played worse than JJ's playing. But
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I think over the course of six weeks he hasn't
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: really shown a lot of signs of improvement. He hasn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: shown any growth, no adapting to anything. His footwork. I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: not a quarterback coach at all, but his footwork does
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: not seem to be good, which is really the base
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of what a quarterback needs to be successful. And the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: game just it seems like it moves too fast for him.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: He looks completely lost out there. Save for every game
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: he's had one or two or three passes where it's like,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, how did I can't even imagine how
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: any quarterback would throw a pass like that. I'm thinking
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: in this Packers game, that one that he made to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson for eighteen yards. It was a rainbow, perfectly
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: placed ball and Justin Jefferson, the defender was right there,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: but Jefferson showed why he's the best receiver in football
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and made the catch. And it wasn't even like one
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: where they had to look at it. It was just a
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: perfectly executed throw and catch. And that was it from JJ.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: From yeah J McCarthy, Like nothing else, literally, nothing else
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: was as good as that one play. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: What about you? Yours is pretty thorny.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Mine is my thorn that I just was feeling about
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the state of the franchise during the game. Everything is
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: falling apart. We have the NFL Coach of the Year
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: from last year who seemingly is lost, and his press
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: conferences make it look like, you know, right before he
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: walked in the room, somebody told him his entire family
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: died in a plane crash. Now he's got to go
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: answer questions about a football team. That's like the attitude
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: he's like coming across as obviously, JJ McCarthy, we had
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: so many high hopes for him and the bare minimum
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: we had. Like you said, and like you said, what
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Dustin Baker said before the season, the best thing was
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: that JJ McCarthy. The best thing about this team this
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: year was that JJ McCarthy didn't even have to be
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: as good as Sam Darnold. He didn't even have to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: be an MVP. He just needed to be be good.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, he needed to be what Carson Wentz kind
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of was in the few games that he played, save
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: for playing through the injury. Yeah, so the quarterback there's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: just no future. There nothing. I mean, it feels like,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like you said, it's not that he can't turn around,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: but I don't see how he can. Every time I
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: looked at Twitter today, I seem to see another, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: all twenty two play where it's like, all right, here's
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a sack of JJ's, but look how many receivers are open,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and there's like, throughout the course of a six second
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: play before he gets sacked, there ends up being like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: oh JJ's open, Oh Jalen Niler, he could have had
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: him right there. Oh TJ. Hockinson looks like he was open,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and then boom sacked. Special teams. My goodness, you get
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: even in this Packers game, you know everything. It was frustrating,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: but it was kind of even. I was thinking, like, man,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: this is boring game until Miles Price let the punt
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: go and then to completely it's a rookie mistake. It
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: bounces back and touches him and he it's a turnover.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: That's just a straight up turnover. And then the Packers
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: getting easy touchdown two plays later. Defense you never know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, if the offense were playing up to snuff,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a defense that only gives up twenty three points to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a pretty decent Packer team. That's not bad. But when
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the offense can't do anything, that just extrapolates, you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: whatever else every other phase has in mistakes at all,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: so the defense makes it look even worse. The offense
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: only had forty four plays in this whole game, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I remember a couple weeks ago when the offense had
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: like fifty eight plays, and even then Koc was saying, like, yep,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: we didn't have too many plays. It's not enough plays
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: to have as an offense. That was you know, eighteen
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: more or you know, fourteen more plays than they had
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: against the Packers. The old line's falling apart. Coaching decisions,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Like I said, KOs was a Coach of the Year
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: last year, but now it seems like, man, he is
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: not making correct decisions at right times. And then coaching
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: extends to special teams coaches. It's like, my goodness, Miles
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Price is doing great, and then he doesn't, and then
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you know, we have Tabier Thomas make two giant game
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: altering mistakes a few weeks ago. Just seems like special
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: teams coaching is not up to snuff. That all leads
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: into like, yeah, this sucks for this year, but this
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: is the way the franchise looks now. We don't have
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: It's not like we're sitting here like last year we're
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: thinking out, Jj'll be back. Sam Donold's doing really good
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this year, but JJ's gonna be so much better he
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: was driving the first round. We don't have that hope
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: for next year. It just everything sucks, and that's my
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: thorn for the game against the Packers. It was just
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: culminated in that one game, which may have been the
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: worst game we've seen as Vikings fans in a long
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Just pile on to the fact that the Vikings have
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like I think what fifty one million over the cap
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: next year two mm hmm, Like there are going to
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: be some roster changes and contracts negotiations that happen. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's gonna be really interesting to see what
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: happens in the offseason. Also interesting, the Vikings currently have
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick, going.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even like we have the chance to
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, well, we thought would be good
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: this year, but at least they have the first overall pick,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and I don't even know who's coming up in the draft. Like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like we have some drafts some years where
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, man, suck for Luck, and we start
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: saying that in September because we know Andrew Luck's coming
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: up and he's gonna be the first overall pick. Even
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams a few years ago, at this time of
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the year leading up to the draft, it's like, Man,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, he's the uncontested first overall pick. Like I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: don't maybe a friend of the show Force was on,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: he'd be able to tell us like, yeah, that's totally
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: going to be this dude, but I don't. I don't
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: know who that dude is, So just no, hope.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: There's I think there's a few college quarterbacks that are
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: expected to go pretty high. I think the kid from
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Indiana Mendoza, I think, and he's pretty good. And then
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I want to say, who Vanderbilt's quarterback? I have no
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Diego Pavia. Maybe I've watched a little bit of I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have just made I don't know. Anyways, I think there
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: are some quarterbacks coming up. I don't know if those
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: guys are even first rounders. Probably not. I saw Drew Aller,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: He's the Penn State quarterback he's projected to go in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like the fifth or sixth round. But anyways, I think
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: what's interesting about J. J McCarthy too, and I watched
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: something on this today, is that he's kind of the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: runt of the litter in his draft class. Like all
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the those other guys are playing pretty well, Drake May
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: playing pretty well, Bo Nicks playing pretty well, Caleb Williams
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: is now starting to figure it out in Chicago, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you had, you had JJ McCarthy. Pennix was a surprise
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: pick because the Falcons had just gotten Kirk Cousins, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: he took the starting job away from Cousins. And now
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he's hurt. So Kirk is playing again.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: But man, Jaden Daniels, he's he's been injured a little
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: bit too. But yeah, Eric kirkus JJ McCarthy, he's just
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: it's not even that he's, you know, not as good
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: as the other rookie quarterbacks in his class or quarterbacks
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: in his draft class. It's that he's literally, without question,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the worst quarterback in the league right now. Yes, And
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: like I said earlier, every time I scrolled Twitter, I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: saw some play where he was terrible. Every other tweet
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I saw was another stat where it's like, yeah, nobody's played,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: nobody's had this bad of a stat in the last
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: fifty years than JJ McCarthy has this year. You know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Like I just keep seeing things like that where it's like, yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: JJ's the worst, the worst quarterback in the league, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that's a lot different than like, ah, he's still developing.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Like there's a difference between like, man, you know, yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: he threw a couple of picks, but like there's some
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: flashes and there's something there and at least, you know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the Browns have a worst quarterback, you know what I mean. Like,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it's just like he's not even you know, there's injured
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks on the Vikings that are Carson Wentz is better
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: than JJ McCarthy right now, Yeah, which is crazy because
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: we were saying not three weeks ago, man, I'm so
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: glad for car Wentz to be done. He should never
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: play football for the Vikings ever again. You know what,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe he is way better than JJ.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It just it's funny how quickly we change our tune
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: as fans of a team when things aren't going well
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: when things are great. Like I was looking back on
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: some of my my memories from like Facebook and stuff
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: from a year year ago, and like I posted something
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: it was that cool guy meme, you know that was
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like the little piano music and there's just a little cartoon.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Dude's just standing there. And I every week I posted
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: a graphic or we posted on our accounts a graphic
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: of wins and losses. And I think at this point
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the Vikings were like eight and two or eight and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: three or something like that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: They had only lost I think were they back to
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: back games.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: They were back to back games, and yeah, it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Was a ten day stretch where they lost most of
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: their games.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yep. But like, boy, we were so high on the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Vikings last year, and I think really the only question
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: we had was like, well, what's gonna happen next year?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Because you had Daniel Jones on the roster, you had
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy waiting in the wings. You know, Sam Donald
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was I think expected to kind of stay with the Vikings. No.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I think the there was a lot of like fans
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: that were like, oh, they can't let Sam Donald walk now.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: And my whole thought was like, all right, yeah, Sam's
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: been great and I'm not mad about him, but like,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you drafted JJ McCarthy for a reason like that's the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: plan was same, to be the bridge no matter how
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: well he's playing, and then JJ McCarthy to come in
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and it was all, you know, culminated in the final
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: two games of the season, the playoff game and the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Week eighteen game where Sam Donald. I saw another tweet
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: with another stat about I think EPA per game or
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: something like that Sam Donald against the Lions in Week
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: eighteen and then against the Rams, and you know, the
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: playoff game he played worse than JJ McCarthy has been
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: playing right now, which is crazy to think, like that's
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: those two games are why I didn't any rational fan
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: didn't have any problem with the Vikings not fighting for
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: everything to keep Sam Donald. But for most of the season,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question he was playing elite.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: He was playing really well, and I think the Vikings
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: could have franchise tagged him, maybe gotten him, you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: kind of on a bargain, kept him for the season.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: This current season would have been next season if we
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: were talking last year's terms. You also had Daniel Jones,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like, as the tea has kind of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: spilled on that they offered Daniel Jones the biggest amount
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that any team offered Daniel Jones, but they told him
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win the job from j McCarthy.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they just told him, like, you're our QB two,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: like JJ is the guy, not even like it'll be
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: an open competition, right, they probably. I don't know what
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: he got from the Colts this year. I think it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: like fourteen or something million. Maybe the Vikings offered him
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen or you know, fourteen to five or whatever
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: it was. But I mean, I don't blame Daniel Jones
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: for turning that down either, because he saw a very
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: struggling Anthony Richardson and was like, I mean, at least
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: there's a competition there, right, And if I lose an
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: open competition, that's one thing. But again, I don't blame
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the Vikings either for being like, hey, JJ's our guy,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: because you drafted him tenth overall, and up until you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: know he got injured, everything you said and saw was that, hey, yeah, JJ,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: he's the future, and we're gonna give him every chance
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: to be the future. Hindsight is twenty twenty. We'd love
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to have Daniel Jones right now. We'd love to have
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald right now. But we don't. And up until
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: they announced this phantom concussion they which or a reporter
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: asked him, like, I just want to make it clear,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: was JJ diagnosed with a concussion? And Koc's answer was
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: pretty much like, well, he was reporting those symptoms and
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: he was evaluated and we just decided, you know, with
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the medical staff, just decided it was best to put
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: him in the protocol. KOs did not say no, he
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: did he wasn't diagnosed, but we're just being cautious, or yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: he was diagnosed. He didn't say that at all. It
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was just there as symptoms and he's in the protocol.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: This is a soft benching.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Which is interesting because I said that about the ankle
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: thing early on in the season. I said, this is
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a soft benching because we saw him play two games
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and he played two quarters, well out of eight, and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: he played the last quarter against the Bears in the
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: first quarter.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Week two.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Whoever we played that week the Falcons. Yeah, and then
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the Falcons game was miserable. That was such a.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: A similar miserable feeling than the Packers game. It just
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: wasn't as bad because I mean, it's the Packers. You
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: don't want to lose, like that, but I was pound
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: on the table, like, no, soft benching's ridiculous, Like Koc
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: is not gonna just if he's gonna do that, he's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: gonna say, hey, we're gonna, you know, sit him down
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: for a little bit. He's not quite ready. Like but
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: now that I'm seeing this, and I'm absolutely in a
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: camp at this concussion, even if it's a real, fully fledged,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: real concussion. One, I hope JJ's okay. It's not it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: a head injury. You know, you don't love that. But two,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: like it's maybe Koc is getting some pushback and he
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: wants to bench him. I don't know all speculation, but
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: it's hard to bench your franchise quarterback, you know, eighteen
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: games after twenty games after he was drafted and still
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: save face. So being able to say, like, man, he's
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: he's injured, he can't play. This kind of reminds me
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: of a time where Christian Ponder was getting kind of
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: soft benched and they determined at one point he had
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: cracked ribs just out of nowhere. He just showed up
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: on the injury report with like a rib injury. And
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: if they said, hey, we think they might be broken,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: this could be serious. We don't you to puncture alone,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and like he was suddenly had a rib injury out
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: of nowhere and there was no one play where it's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: like yep, that's where he got it. I think people
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: have shown on Twitter. We we think we know kind
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: of where JJ got. I saw. I saw the play
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: like got he was rushing the ball and then got
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: tackled and he kind of like held his arms out
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: like that for like a split second, which you see
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: like guys get bad concussions and they like freeze up.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: It was a Keyshawn Nixon for the Packers hit his
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: own teammate on the sideline and like kind of had
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: that like stiff motion and then just fell over and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I think he was okay.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah he missed the rest of the game, but I.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Think he was okay. But yeah, he did miss the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: rest of the game. But anyways, like yeah, oh, I'm
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: fully aware of like when they lock up like that
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: there there's definitely some sort of brain spinal cord something urological.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Something happened, and it's scary. You don't like to see it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I did see too. In one of the clips he
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: immediately took a whiff of a smelling song. I didn't
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: see he must have had one and like in his
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: pouch or something like he got up from that hit
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and just all.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Right, let's go already know how to do it. It's funny.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But what I was saying before all this is I think, yeah,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: maybe there is a legit concussion. And again, if there is,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: hope he's okay. It's a brain injury. You don't that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: But on some level, Kevin O'Connell might be breathing a
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: little bit of a sigh of relief, like, Okay, we
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: can sit him down, real injury or not, and just
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: get him out of the fire for a minute and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: get him away and try to do something else, because
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: at some point it's it's less about like roll, we're
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: benching him, and it's more about like, we gotta try
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: something different, because you can't have a quarterback play as
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: bad as he did against the Packers and confidently keep
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: going week in week out. It's a definition of insanity.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: He was awful against the Packers, and I've seen some
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: people break down film and say it actually wasn't as
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: bad as you think. You know, he had something here,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: but then he lost, you know, the offensive lineman got
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: blown up, but like, I don't care if it was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: actually as bad as it looked. He didn't do anything
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to make it look better than it should have. Like
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: he wasn't elevating the team. He was just not you know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: he was going down with the ship well down.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I come back to what I said towards the beginning
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: of Roses and Thorns is that the running game was
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: really strong, and I think the commitment to the run
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: game did a few things. I think it kept Micah
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Parsons at bay. He was not a factor until the
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: second half. He didn't get home to JJ McCarthy until
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the second half, and then it just the running game
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: kept everything balanced, and that's when JJ I think, looked
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the most comfortable. He still didn't look great. He didn't
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: look super comfortable.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I really don't know that I've seen him look comfortable
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: at all in any game that I've watched him play
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: this year. But I don't know. With a young guy
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: like that who's trying to figure it out, you got
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: to stick with the run game, and you got to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: give him a chance to kind of catch his breath,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: look out and you know, read the defense and then
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: be able to just hand the ball off to the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: next guy and you know, live to survive another down.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And the Vikings were running the ball decently. Four or
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: five yards of carry that three plays in a row,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that's a first down every time.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, Jordan Mason average five point three. He
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: had forty two yards, Aaron Jones averaged four point six.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: He had forty one yards, and JJ threw in another
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: ten yards. And there they had ninety three yards rushing
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: through the whole game, and a lot of those were
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: first half yards.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But and while it is a frustration that they
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: ultimately started going away from the running game, I think
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: that was just dictated by the score. I mean, eventually,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you just can't when you're down seventeen points, you can't
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: keep being dedicated to the run game. And also doesn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: help when you know, one thing that leads to losing
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that scoring battle is when you have not even a
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: muffed punt, but a just totally boneheaded punt return situation
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: where you give the Packers the ball right back around
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: the ten five yard line like it's It was just
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: a frustrating game and one that hopefully if JJ does
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: miss some time again, hope he's okay. But it probably
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be the worst thing to have him miss some
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: time and for himself, for his development, take a break,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: like take a pause, and if Max Brosmer comes in,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: he can't be worse like he He could only really
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: be as bad because JJ was putting up record numbers
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that people weren't playing as bad as that for fifty years.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: So Brozemer could only the worst thing he could do
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is play as bad as JJ, and then that's a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: huge indictment on the coaching and everything. But and then
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: you're just you're right back where you were, you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: after losing the Green Bay you're back with JJ or
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: looking at the draft or whatever. But Brosmer could come
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: in and look not terrible, not even good or great,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: but just not terrible, And that would be such a
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: breath of fresh air.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: It would. It would for sure, game ball, Who are
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you going to be in a game ball to?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I know I gushed over will record earlier and I
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: think he, you know, would be deserving. But as far
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: as like on the field, and I know scoring points
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: is the most important thing, but on the field, throughout
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the motion of the game, for me, it was Jalen Redman.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: He seemed to be really the most consistent one, making
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: tackles for loss, showing up and getting in people's faces.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: And also just the fact that he shouldn't have as
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: much expectations as he's now earning because he came from
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: such a low spot and he's consistently all season been
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: really good and really refreshing. And that didn't stop in
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay game. He made an impact and did
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: pretty well. I'm trying to find his his overall or
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: his overall stats now as I'm looking.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Six total tackles, Yeah, for solo and then one tackle
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: for loss, one pass defended, one quarterback hit yep.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just solid. And yeah, other players had more tackles
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and other players had more sacks and stuff. But I
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: think as an overall well rounded function, Jalen Redmond, at
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: least for me, he was good enough to get the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: game ball for me.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Vikings only had one zack, which I think the broadcast
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: crew Joe Davis and Greg Olsen were kind of pointing out,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: like this Brian Flores defense is just not playing to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the standard that they've played the last couple of seasons,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: and it's weird. Dallas turned it didn't get home once,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: which was nice.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: But there was another time where I think it was
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Eric Wilson blitzed and he was dead to rights totally.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was Eric Wilson just totally had Jalen
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: or Jordan Love dead to rights, just all out blitz
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Nobody touched him, and Love just out of nowhere. Credit
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: to him just kind of threw it up, and I
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: think he knew who and where he was throwing it to,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: but just kind of threw it up right before he
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: got hit. And it was like a third and long,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: third and eight nine, something like that, and it was
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: caught by I think Wicks for the Packers for a
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: first down and a play that nine times out of ten,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: if that play starts off exactly the same way, Eric
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Wilson gets home and at least that's the ball down
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: or at least you know, it does enough to make
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: it an incomplete pass. But something that could have been
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: a sack ended up Credit to Jordan Love and the
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Packers ended up being a first down catch on a
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: drive that I guess I don't remember, probably ended up
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: in points somehow. But yeah, this defense has been almost
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: there all season. And I can go off on another rant,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: which I guess I don't really need to, but did
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: you even say who? You said that game ball?
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I put question marks next to both of the guys
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: just because it's just like who, I don't know? You know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: like this game was rough, Will the thrill was the
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: first one. He was one of your roses and I
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: definitely agree with that, and I could give him a
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: game ball easily. He scored the only points that the
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Vikings scored all all day, and he did it from
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: fifty plus yards, which is no small feat in the NFL.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: He's just he's clutched. He's so good. I'm glad to
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: have a really good kicker like that. We just need
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: to get an offense that can get him to where
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: he can be kicking game winners instead of just, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: six points in a loss to the Packers on the road.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: So and then the other one. I think he got
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a game ball from me last week too. But Blake Cashman,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: he just continues to be the leader of the defense.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I think we are slowly seeing the the fading of
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Harrison Smith.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: It's not slow.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: He had one tackle, Yeah, he had one tackle yesterday.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I think he's pretty much phased out and he might
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: still be kind of a leader in the locker room
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and in the safety room during the week, but Jordan
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Mason has really not Jordan Mason Blake Cashman. I don't
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: know where that even.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Can You probably just saw Jordan Mason's name so probably
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: read it. Yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Anyways, Blake Cashman just continues to be kind of the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: cornerstone of this defense. He led the team in tackles.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: He is the green dot. They feel it when he's
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: not on the field. So yeah, I think he's deserving
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Not bad, Yeah, hard to argue with at all what
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: you said about Harrison Smith. I think, yeah, we are
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: seeing the end to the point that at one point
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: during the game, Josh Mattellus went down and it looked
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: like a knee, but I think they were saying shoulder,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: But either way, he went out. He got quite hurt
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and it looked really bad. The one that looked really
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: bad that they he'd like waved for the medical team.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: You texted me and said, I was at THEO Jackson time,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and I think I replied something like, it's probably like
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Jay Ward because we see THEO Jackson all the time
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: now with Harrison Smith not being in every play. So yeah,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: that was all, you know, a long way of saying,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I think Harrison Smith and I don't know if it's
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a snow count, because if you remember last year, it
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: was kind of the same thing for twenty twenty four.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Leading up to the season was like, Hey, he's coming back.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: We got Harrison Smith again and it's gonna be great.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: And they even I think even said like, yeah, he's
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: gonna kind of be on a pitch count. We're not
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: gonna use him all the time anymore. Still played a lot,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: and then he ended up still playing like sixty seventy
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: plays a game, like every defensive play a game. And
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: we talked about it like, jeez, this guy's playing a
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: lot and pretty well too. And that's just not the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: case anymore this year. Not that he's been a huge liability,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: but just he's not been out there, which is a
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: liability in itself. YEP.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, is there anything else that we want
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: to talk about. I feel like we've just been negative
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: nancies over here.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Well, one more thing, Ryan right the punter, Oh yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: four punts to only twenty two yards along of a
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: fifty nine. Both Will Record and Ryan Wright had a
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: long of a fifty nine out one point.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Specialists of special teams, the kicking specialists, we should say,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: are a great Ye think.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: They've been doing good. Ryan Right has been. I think
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: even last year was yeah, really really good. Other than that,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: there's not much good that came from that game. That
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: one awesome catch from Justin Jefferson. I think what another
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: thing that's good about Justin Jefferson is we haven't gotten
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: to the point yet where he's tweeting weird things or
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: openly complaining allah aj Brown on the in the locker
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: room and stuff we're still getting. You can tell he's frustrated,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: but everybody's frustrated. But at least we're still getting things
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: from Justin Jefferson like I'm a captain and we just
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: got to keep working. I know he said something like
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: it really sucks to keep saying the same things every week,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: like we got to fix these things and things aren't great.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: But at least he's not saying like I wish I
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: could get the ball, you know, or like just diva things.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: We're still not to that point. But as great as
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson is, you know, everybody probably has that limit
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: where like, well, you know it'd be nice and for me.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: The only other silver lining is you don't ever root
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: for somebody to be injured, especially somebody on your own team.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: But at least there's a sliver of hope for me
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: now with not even for Max Brozmer necessarily, but just
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: to to try something different than JJ McCarthy. It has
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: been pounding our head against the wall, whether it's fully
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: his fault or not. He's the quarterback and like he
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: said a few weeks ago, he's responsible for everything that
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: happens on the football field. You gotta try something different.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: How many times have we seen football games, high school, college,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: NFL whatever, and they make a quarterback change and it
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: sparks something not you know, perfect every time, but shoot,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: we even saw it with the pastnot era. It sparked something.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: It wasn't for poor poor performance from Kirk. Is why
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the passionat was brought in because he was injured, but
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: there was some spark there and it quickly dissolved and
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: it was still, you know, a loss of a season.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe Max Brosmer. This is my only silver
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: lining left, is that maybe Brosmer can do something different
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: and we have a heck of a talker. If Brozemer
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: comes out and looks great. And it's one thing. If
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: he kind of does what Carson Wentz did, it's like, no,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: he's he's fine. But if he comes out and does
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: three touchdowns three hundred yards, it's like, hold on here,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: we got something to talk about. But that's for hopefully
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: another another podcast.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: So what is the way forward? Like, if you had to,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: if you had if you were Kevin O'Connell, what does
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season look like?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I think we are. I already know what you would say,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: what this coming week looks like going to Seattle? I
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: think you would say Brozemer is the starter one hundred percent.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: You don't put JJ out there. Yeah, the concussion thing,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it is what it is is, whether it's real or not,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: whether it's a soft benching or not. You just you
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: ride that media wave until it's dead. And Brozemer is
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: the starter at least for a week. But what about
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the remaining I don't know how many weeks? Is it
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: like four.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Weeks, five weeks? Of seven games left?
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Seven games? Okay, So for the remaining six games after that,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: what happened?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Or is it six games left? What are they now?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Four and seven? Yeah, they're four so six games left.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Six games total, So one game I think is already
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: kind of spoken for this one against the Seahawks. It
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: remains to be seen. But I think I know what
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: your answer would be, and that that's what I'm getting to,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, the remaining five.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so first off, the picture of the twenty twenty
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: five NFL season. As of right now, the Vikings are
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. I think there still
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: would be a route if the Vikings won out and
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: then certain teams lost Slash one certain games, there could
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: still be a route for the Vikings to sneak in
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. So that's I mean, until you're mathematically eliminated,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: you can never really rule everything out. But I mean
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: we're realistic here. I don't think either of us think
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have any actual chance of making the playoff.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I don't. But that's step one is you'd have to
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: win out, like that's just the thing that would have
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: to happen. And that's tough. I mean, it's tough any
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: year to win six games in a row, especially for
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a team like this that has had nothing all season.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think when you head to Seattle, I truly,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm annoyed that I think this way,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: that I think that this is a sock benching, because
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: usually i'm the guy that's like, no NFL teams they're
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: playing and coaching for their lives and they're not messing
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: around with oh, you know, he's not really hurt. Hear
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: he is really hurt, but he's not really like they
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: just say it, you know, they say it the way
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: it is, or they don't say anything at all. It's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: not like like when teams are like, ah, yeah, I
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna start, they don't announce a quarterback starting,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: and then you know, a minute before the game they're like, actually,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: never mind, it's a different guy. They usually say like,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna announce who's starting. Like they don't lie. Usually,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: it's just they don't tell the truth. So I think
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: what's actually happening here is that this is a soft benching,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm annoyed for thinking that, but I get it.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I get why KOC would do that, and I think
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: you roll with Brozmer. It's an opportunity to even though
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: we all know that he's not super injured, but it's
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to sit JJ down and not totally write
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: him off for the rest of his career. It's still early.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: We're twenty some games into his career, and I know
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: people want to say, oh, we're only six games, but no,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: we're not. We're twenty games into his career. It's just
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been healthy enough to be a part of those.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: So you roll with Max Brosmer, and maybe he is
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the one that something clicks. Maybe that's where the quarterback
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: guru comes out and it's like, oh, yeah, man, how
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: bad is JJ McCarthy because Kevin O'Connell did something with
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: everybody else. Yeah for Seattle, Max Rosmer for sure, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: then it's week to week. If it gets bad enough concussions,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: heal out of nowhere. So I don't know either way.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty five is lost. I don't know
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: that anybody gets fired KOC and Quacy. I don't think
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: they're getting fired. People on Twitter have love pointing out
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: that the recent extensions both of them signed this offseason
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: technically haven't even kicked in yet, Like the money in
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the years haven't even kicked in on those suspense or extensions.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: So love it or hate it, they're here, and so
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: is JJ.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: But I have an idea. You're ready for this. Yes,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: this is some fortune cookie wisdom for you right here,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: hear me out. You cut JJ McCarthy.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I've seen this tweet and I know where you're going finish.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: This is an original idea.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: This is I'm just kidding.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: You cut JJ right m and then you re sign
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: him and he becomes this project and then everything's good
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: again because KOs has a project to work on. I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: don't know, could be worth something there.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that tweet where it's like, yeah, if
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: you cut him, then he's a bust and KOC. All
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: he does with busts is turn him around and there
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you go. He's a problem solved.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I laughed really hard when I saw that. I think
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I sent it to you.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: He did. I'm pretty sure you texted to me. Yeah,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think anyone significant gets fired. I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: think you could see a Brian Flores finally say like,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: all right, I will take that other job. You might
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: just be gone, which was probably gonna happen anyway. So
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: this was probably gonna be Brian Flores his last year
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: with the Vikings. Anyways, it's just now it's like, if,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: all right, we weren't five seconds away from the super
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Bowl this year, so I'll go see what I can
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: do as a head coach somewhere else, and he'd probably
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: get more opportunity the further he gets away from suing
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: the league. I don't know, how do you feel about anything?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I just said, Do you agree? Do you disagree? What
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts? Yeah?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I think I agree, And it's just it's tough, right,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: It's a tough path forward. There's almost no right answer,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: and I think unfortunately, someone will have to kind of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: take the fall for it. Yeah, is it Quacy or
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Koc I don't know, probably not. I think ownership has
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of faith in them to do their jobs.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: But Quacy hasn't drafted well historically, and I think that's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: going to be a big, like probably a big performance
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: review thing for him with ownership coming up in the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: next couple of years, is like, hey, you got to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: you gotta draft better, or we're going to have to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: move on and find a GM that can actually find
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: talent in the draft. Because the draft, I think, hate
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: it or love it, it is still kind of the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: bread and butter way to add talent to your team. Yeah,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: you draft and develop players. You don't just cherry pick
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: free agents from other teams. You draft and develop. The
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Packers have done it for years. Plenty of other organizations
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: are doing it as well, and I think that's the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: best way forward. And I'm not a big fan of tanking,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing the Vikings lose
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a few more games, secure a high draft pick, and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: do something in the draft this year, even if that's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: trading away, like even if it's not like you know,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: even if they don't keep that high first round, or
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: even if they trade away that first round or I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: don't know, they could stockpile some more picks later on
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: in the draft. They could recoup some of this fifty
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: one plus over the cap that they have. They have
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: balanced the books for next season a little bit with
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I do think one more
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: silver lining the whole JJ McCarthy thing is they didn't
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: give up future first round picks to get him, So
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: we're not sitting here saying and on top of everything,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: we don't have the next two years first round pick
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: because they were ready to do for Drake Manix, one
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: of the two. Well, bo Nix was there when they drafted. True,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: could easily, but yeah, it sounded like Drake May if
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: you believe what Twitter says, they had a package on
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: the table for like three first round picks plus more,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: you know, to be able to trade up with the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Patriots to number three and get Drake May apparently. But again,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: it sounds plausible and it's probably true, but she can
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: never truly believe everything unless it comes from the mouth
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: of the GM, you know, like and even then it's like,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I just think there's no hope. There's very
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: little hope left for this year. But what we can
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: do now is hope either Max Brosmer turns into something
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: or if JJ gets back on the field, which theoretically
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: he might not miss any time. We're still sitting here
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: hours after Koc announced that JJ was in the protocol,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: not that he announced JJ had season ending injury, you know,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: like he may start against the Seahawks. We don't know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: but it seems like it's Brozemer time. Maybe we'll see
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: some flash and there's at least something to watch, and
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: if Roemer's terrible, then we're just back in the situation
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: we are right this moment where it's like, huh, there's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: no hope. Maybe they'll find something next year.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: So let's look ahead to Seattle. Let's close this thing out,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: let's talk about that game. We both picked this as
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: a loss, so I think that's kind of good news
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: for us given the trajectory of the team right now,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: for the Purple punished, for the Purple punishments. Yep. So
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: if the Vikings lose, we will not have to spin
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: the wheel because that's what we picked. But if somehow
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: they pull out a victory in Seattle, we're gonna be
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: spinning the wheel again next week. This is a historic
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: year for the wheel. We've had to spin a lot
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: more than we have.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: So when I looked up the stats for this game,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: it was prior to JJ McCarthy being announced that he's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: in the protocol, and at that time they were eight
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: and a half. They were underdogs, eight and a half
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: point underdogs. Seattle was favored by eight and a half.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Right now, the Vikings are ten and a half point underdogs,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: which kind of tells you what Vegas thinks about JJ
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: McCarthy versus Max Rosmer, because that's the only thing that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: has changed that I can tell is that JJ McCarthy
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: might not play, so Rosmer is apparently way worse than that,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: which I gets. He's been the backup, he hasn't been
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: on the field. The Vikings have chosen McCarthy over Brozemer
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: every other week. So yeah, do you think the Vikings cover?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Do you think they get they lose by less than
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: no eleven points?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Nope, I think they lose by a lot. I'm not
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: even going to give a score prediction. It's just gonna
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same or worse as the Packers.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I did give a score prediction, I think,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: and again this was before the McCarthy news, but I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be something like forty two to ten.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Seahawks could have easily been that against the Packers. But
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I honestly don't think the Packers are world beaters this year.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: They're not like the team to beat. They're not playing
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: like the Rams are right now, and they kick the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: crap out of the Buccaneers last night. Yeah, I just
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: they're obviously better than the Vikings at this moment, but
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: so is everybody else, and so has every other quarterback
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: been for the last five decades.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: So I have JSN in fantasy right now, and he's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: he's held me out a lot, not as much as
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir Gibbs had like fifty some points yesterday,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: which was wild for the Lions, but JSN still got
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: me like thirty seven points and I had Sam Donald
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: on the bench. I'm kind of thinking of putting Sam
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Donald in next week. Yeah, get the double dip in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: there with your quarterback throwing those touchdowns to Jackson Smith
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and Jigba.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: You're you're a true fan of hey? All right? Yeah?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I think you know. We talked for way longer than
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I thought we would about this terrible awful team and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: how much they they hate us, and how much they'd
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: love to make us feel terrible and awful. One thing
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: that is the exact opposite of terrible and awful has
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: been this beer, the Charlie's Brown Air, but brown Ale.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: It's the great pumpkin spiced brown Ale from Reunion and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: field Day. Did we decide whose it actually is?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's Reunion's beer that field Day helped with.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Got it? Yeah? This can art does even like the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: description and then the wordage does scream Reunion, So it's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: even bruden canned at Reunion. So yeah, either way, I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: feel both of these breweries I've only ever had good
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: beers from. I've enjoyed both of them. We need to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: get ourselves over to field Day because they're probably the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: closest of the far away breweries US maybe seven hills
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: South now they might be a little bit closer. But yeah,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: this beer, I liked it a lot. I really like that.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: And similar to the one that we had what ten
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: episodes ago? The was it back pocket? Back pocket?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Back pocket?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I think anale? Yeah, that pumpkin aale and this one
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: are both like pumpkin patch, you know, fall flavored ales
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: that are not just a sweet piece of pumpkin pie
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: stuffed in a can, which I wouldn't have liked. I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: like this way. It's more of a fall spice beer,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a darker beer. I like it a lot. What do
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: you think?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I like it a lot too. Sam Adams always puts
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: out a like a fall seasonal pack, like a mixed pack,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and they always include their jack o Lantern pumpkin ale,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: which I try one every year when I buy it
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Nope, still don't like it.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: That one is kind of in the realm, because it's just.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: It's just like way too sweet, way too rich. This
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: is not that. This is really just the spices that
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: they described on the can of like nutmeg, ginger, juice, vanilla.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: That's what stands out to me more than the pumpkin
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: and the nutmeg I think reminds me of a pumpkin
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: pie a little bit. So I get a little pumpkin
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: from that. But it's just it's a good it's warm,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: it's home. It would be a great beer to have
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. So if you're looking, if you're looking for
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: a good one, I get this Reunion Charlie's Brown Ale
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: super good.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good job, field Day and Reunion. Thank you for
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: making such a great beer. If you listener have tried
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: this one, let us know what you think of it.
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  Speaker 2: If you can think of another beer that you either
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  Speaker 2: hate because it's you know, a pumpkin pie stuffed in
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  Speaker 2: a can, or that you love because it's you know,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: perfect blend of fall beer, let us know in the comments.
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  Speaker 2: probably know other people that would like us as well. Evan,
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  Speaker 2: did I miss anything or was there anything we wanted
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  Speaker 2: to hash out before we closed out?
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  Speaker 1: I think there's just one thing that we both need
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  Speaker 1: to do though, before or we end this episode.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Take these freaking jerseys off. Yeah we didn't. I said
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  Speaker 2: we were gonna mention it again, but we never did.
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  Speaker 2: We were wearing these jerseys because of the Purple punishments,
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  Speaker 2: something hopefully we will not be subject to again next week.
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  Speaker 2: But if we do, it means the Viking's won and
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  Speaker 2: we can only be so mad about that.
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  Speaker 1: I won't be mad about that. Yeah, I'll happily spin
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  Speaker 1: the wheel and eat a Jara pickles but or something spicy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well that too.
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully we never have to wear those jerseys again, Evan,
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  Speaker 2: this episode is just what I needed after such a
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: terrible loss. I hope this major birthday just a teeny
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  Speaker 2: little bit better. Thanks for helping me hash out this game.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed, he did great beer, maybe best episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's cool, let's cool.
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