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#525 - Nelly · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Check check check. Yo, y'all know what it is.
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Speaker 2: It's your man, Nelly I and were rolling out right
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Speaker 2: here on the Bootleg Cavs Show.
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Speaker 3: Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody, man,
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Speaker 3: we got one of the biggest radio shows in the country,
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Speaker 3: we've been able to add. Man, We want to give
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Speaker 3: a shout out to ninety three point nine to Beat
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Speaker 3: in Honolulu. That's right, Hawaii, we over there going crazy.
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Speaker 3: I also want to give a shout out Hot ninety
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Speaker 3: eight three and Tucson. Shout out to Tucson going crazy.
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Speaker 3: four one in Tampa going crazy. We just got Richmond.
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Speaker 3: We also just got the good folks in Bakersfield at
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Speaker 3: Hot one O four to seven. So we're going crazy
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Speaker 4: That iHeart Radio app.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 3: Let's get into the interview, all.
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Speaker 1: Right, man, Bootleg cav show.
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Speaker 3: We got a special guest, an absolute legend, Nelly is
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Speaker 3: in the building.
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Speaker 4: What's up, Nelly Man?
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Speaker 1: How you doing?
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Speaker 4: I'm good, brother, I mean, I gotta tell you bro.
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Speaker 3: First of all, Country Grammar was a very important album
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Speaker 3: in my life.
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Speaker 4: Thog, thank you congratulations.
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Speaker 3: I know it's been twenty five years for a couple
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Speaker 3: of years were twenty seven years now.
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Speaker 2: Well, the song actually came out in in ninety nine,
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Speaker 2: but the album.
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Speaker 1: Came out thousand. Album the album Right came out in
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Speaker 1: two thousand.
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Speaker 3: But we are okay because I saw you it redropped
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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 4: But so the song yeah.
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Speaker 2: And We're Crazy, the song nationally is dropped in ninety nine,
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Speaker 2: but the song locally was originally did in like ninety eight,
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Speaker 2: and then I re recorded it once we got the
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Speaker 2: deal with Universal Right, and then we put that out
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Speaker 2: in ninety nine, and then the album was in two thousand.
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Speaker 2: So Country Gramma the song actually been out for a minute, yo.
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Speaker 3: So the best part of the iHeart Awards for me
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Speaker 3: yesterday was seeing the Saint.
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Speaker 4: Lunatics Whatch You Gonna Stay?
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Speaker 1: Man?
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Speaker 3: Which is so fire because Free Cities was by ship
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Speaker 3: Oh man, such a slept On album too.
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Speaker 1: Thank you brother, thank you. Yeah. Man, those are my brothers,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: And it's crazy because me and City I always the
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Speaker 2: City is my little brothers. Say that, but that's why
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Speaker 2: I used to wear a band aid for obviously. But
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Speaker 2: Keywan and Murphy Lee or real brothers biologically you should
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Speaker 2: say that. And I've been knowing Murph and Keywan since
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Speaker 2: Murf was like eight years old and Keiwan was like
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Speaker 2: eleven twelve. So we grew up literally together, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean, doing other shit, and we just didn't
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Speaker 2: know that music was going to be, you know, where we.
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Speaker 1: Would make our impact on the world.
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Speaker 2: But man, when you got that family base, yeah, you
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Speaker 2: go through shit, right.
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Speaker 3: I about to say it was good to see because
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Speaker 3: I know last year there was like, you know whatever,
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Speaker 3: stories around, so it was good to see.
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Speaker 1: When I saw that, I was like, hell yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: But it's I think, you know, it's it's sometimes confusion
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Speaker 2: because when you're going about things and you're not paying
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Speaker 2: attention to certain things, you have no idea what's happening,
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Speaker 2: you know, But then as you get older, you're assuming
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Speaker 2: what happened. But then when you find out, oh, man,
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Speaker 2: that wasn't the case. Then It's easy. We just needed
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Speaker 2: to have a conversation to be.
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Speaker 4: Like, bro, lack of communication.
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Speaker 2: Bro, that's not what happened. This is actually how that went.
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Speaker 2: And at the time, you know, Mirph was super young.
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Speaker 2: He had just graduated from high school basically, or probably
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Speaker 2: about a year and.
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Speaker 4: A half removed.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, man, I mean, you know, things happened so
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Speaker 2: fast as well. I just we just needed to have
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Speaker 2: a conversation to and everything needed to be explained. But
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I love for one
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Speaker 2: another will never subside over business.
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Speaker 1: I mean well always it would always.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, were you and your wife's initial like like reuniting?
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Speaker 1: Was it at the versus?
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Speaker 2: This is the thing when I went to Versus, I
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Speaker 2: actually I had somebody with me right when I went
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Speaker 2: to when I what I'm.
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Speaker 3: Saying, but you guys shared the stage, and you know,
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Speaker 3: the internet was like oh ship at the same time I.
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Speaker 1: Was, I didn't want it tints.
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Speaker 2: And when I walked in, her mother has saw me,
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Speaker 2: and I knew that Mom was gonna go back and
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Speaker 2: let her know that I was in the building. So
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Speaker 2: we was here to celebrate with these brothers two of
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Speaker 2: my cats, yep Joe and joh And to celebrate their music.
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Speaker 2: So I didn't I didn't want a tints and we
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Speaker 2: didn't even talk. I just went over, you know, we
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Speaker 2: got the hug, rate, the eyes, and boom and we
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Speaker 2: didn't talk for probably another almost eight to nine months
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Speaker 2: to a year. We didn't have a conversation. That was
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Speaker 2: that And you know, but everything happens for a reason.
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Speaker 3: I think that's awesome. I think it's so dope. And
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Speaker 3: by the way, kudos to you guys figuring out how
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Speaker 3: to hide a wedding. How hard was that for that
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Speaker 3: not to get out until after it happened.
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Speaker 2: Well, once I found out that, once we found out
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Speaker 2: that she was pregnant, it was just like, yeah, I
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Speaker 2: didn't want this to be.
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Speaker 1: Not a I don't want to say like a child.
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Speaker 4: We exactly Well, you guys are probably already planning, you know.
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Speaker 2: Well, we hadn't talked about it. We hadn't talked about
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Speaker 2: any of that yet. I hadn't, you know, But I
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Speaker 2: was like, yo, you know what, let's just knock this
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Speaker 2: out because we're going to be doing so much and
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Speaker 2: everything's moving so fast, and I didn't want to yeah,
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Speaker 2: I didn't want her to be, you know, a baby mama.
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Speaker 2: I like, because we already knew where we were in life.
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Speaker 2: And you know, if we're back like this, this must
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Speaker 2: be what this supposed to be.
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Speaker 4: You know, I love it to be cares like.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes people's timing is off, whether it's like points in
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Speaker 3: your life, doesn't mean it's the wrong person, but maybe
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Speaker 3: it's the wrong timing exactly. So you go through whatever
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Speaker 3: you go through, whatever she goes through. You guys evolved,
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Speaker 3: but you guys know each other yo, and love.
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Speaker 4: Each other well.
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Speaker 2: Any relationship, man, I based any relationship on does this
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Speaker 2: person bring more good to your life than bad? Any relationship.
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Speaker 2: It could be your relationship with your parents, your kids, your.
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Speaker 4: Homie, anything.
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Speaker 2: Does this person bring more good to your life than bad?
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Speaker 2: And if they do, then great, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: And then but if they don't, then you know that
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Speaker 2: you might need to remove this person from being able
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Speaker 2: to get some of your time.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I think for me and her.
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Speaker 2: After we got a chance to look and was like, Yo,
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Speaker 2: a lot of the shit that we was bitching about
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Speaker 2: we cool.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I love it, man.
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Speaker 2: We were way more happier than we thought being pissed off.
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Speaker 3: Was how cool? Because I know it was a surprised
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Speaker 3: that she introduced you. She had a dope speech for you.
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Speaker 1: Man, I didn't know she was doing that. I had
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Speaker 1: no idea.
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Speaker 2: I thought she was going to the seat because we
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Speaker 2: had just left the dressing room, and you know, she
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Speaker 2: was like, go killing bag, look okay, boom boom. She
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Speaker 2: was like, they're going to their seat. And then I'm
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Speaker 2: backstage and I got you know.
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Speaker 1: My ins and you hear her ins and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I know that voice.
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Speaker 2: And then I looked to the screen, I'm like, wow, wow,
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Speaker 2: that got be like yeah, but it was dope, man,
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Speaker 2: it was dope.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my that's my baby. Man, she did a thing.
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Speaker 3: I want to go back. You're one of the greatest
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Speaker 3: selling hip hop artists of all time. I feel like
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Speaker 3: you truly evolved the genre in a way that is
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Speaker 3: still her today. I don't think we get future. I
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Speaker 3: don't think we get some of these melodic artists without you.
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Speaker 3: I mean, damn you. You influenced fifty in my opinion,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, well.
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Speaker 2: I think we all influence each other, right, So without
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Speaker 2: Celo without good soulful green, there's no there might not
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Speaker 2: be no Lelly without.
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Speaker 1: Even both thugs back in the day arrested development. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: And you get a lot of you know a lot
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Speaker 2: of the people that are you know, melodic, and it's
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Speaker 2: about influence, because we all influence each other. So I'm
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Speaker 2: just happy that I can pass on inspiration and like
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Speaker 2: you're saying, make it so that it's it's it's not
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Speaker 2: hearing something.
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Speaker 1: Irregular to be on the radio.
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Speaker 2: And then you got brothers like t Pain and Acon
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Speaker 2: that just take that ship to a whole nother level, man,
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Speaker 2: because t Pain is.
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Speaker 1: The goat, Like he's a goat man. He's one of
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Speaker 1: the most alien level talented people. Man. People don't realize
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Speaker 1: that guy.
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Speaker 2: Damn that his mental his knowledge of music, the way
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Speaker 2: he can put ship together. Like you know, I grew
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Speaker 2: up in music my whole life. I'm not even the
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Speaker 2: first one in my family to even do a record.
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Speaker 2: My uncle Rudy rest in Peace, did an album and
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight, and he's the one who taught me about,
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Speaker 2: you know, just music in general, and how to count balls,
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Speaker 2: how to do certain things and I was in band.
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Speaker 2: I did the drum line thing. Yeah, I played the
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Speaker 2: trumpet for a little bit and all of that. Even
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Speaker 2: when it was church, I was in the choir, the
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Speaker 2: kids choir. So music has always been around me. So
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Speaker 2: when you see somebody like pain and the things he's
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Speaker 2: able to capture, man, he's incredible.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like because when it comes to prolific runs,
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Speaker 3: I think of your run from Country Grammar to Sweatsuit.
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Speaker 3: I mean the fact you're able to drop two albums
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Speaker 3: on the same day and they each went one and
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Speaker 3: two on the chart Nellyville in between that it's one
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Speaker 3: of the greatest runs in history.
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Speaker 1: Thanks.
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you get your flowers?
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Speaker 3: When we talk about the goat conversation, I don't trop
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Speaker 3: off of it like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.
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Speaker 2: I literally don't like I talked shit with you if
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Speaker 2: you want talk, But because somebody else, I don't worry
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Speaker 2: about it. I always say, you know, long as they
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Speaker 2: they can put my flowers on my grad you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And that's cool with me because my
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Speaker 2: job is first is the fathers, the husband is the
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying is protecting and providing and
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Speaker 2: setting changing the course of what my family was doing
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Speaker 2: because I was blessed to be in that position.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I care about.
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Speaker 4: First.
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Speaker 2: If it comes, it comes, and I feel like a
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Speaker 2: lot of times it may not be the right time.
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Speaker 2: Like we talked about timing, Everything is timing, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean. Like sometimes you got to look back
10:37
Speaker 2: to understand what somebody like a Terrell Owens did or
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Speaker 2: meant to the league, or what a Randy Moss meant
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Speaker 2: to the league, because you know, when they're doing it,
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Speaker 2: it could be little things that make you overlook them
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Speaker 2: for some reason. But then when you think about the
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Speaker 2: game and you go back and you be like, damn,
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Speaker 2: Doe was beasted, you know what I'm saying. So if
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Speaker 2: that happens like that, then that's that's cool. And from
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Speaker 2: where I'm from, we used to getting over look, like
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Speaker 2: from Saint Louis.
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Speaker 1: I'm somewhere like Saint Louis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for people you cut that light off
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Speaker 3: for quick head, it keeps blinking. That's fine, speaking of
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Speaker 3: Saint Louis. Saint Louis recently obviously, it's it's it's been
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Speaker 3: in the neuce for the wrong reasons. It's one of
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Speaker 3: the most dangerous places in America, if not the most
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Speaker 3: dangerous place in America.
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Speaker 1: You know, country Grammar. While it was Ride with Me
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Speaker 1: and a lot of hits on there, it was also
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Speaker 1: a lot of street ship on there. Still the show
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Speaker 1: was on there.
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Speaker 3: You know, what point in time did you realize, because
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Speaker 3: I feel like you had a real conscientious effort to
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Speaker 3: be like, you know what, I'm I don't want to
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Speaker 3: limit myself in this box. You had to, you know,
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Speaker 3: I mean the come up was quick, but I feel
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Speaker 3: like you have like a real conscientious effort to try
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Speaker 3: to kind of like make sure you weren't just stuck
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Speaker 3: in a box there that immediately or was it like, oh,
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Speaker 3: we got something here and then some of the pop
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Speaker 3: looks started coming in and.
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Speaker 2: Period like, but I didn't understand the whole thing of pop.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't like I was trying to go pop. I
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Speaker 2: just did the records, and you know that's what That's
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Speaker 2: what the label does. That's their expertise of saying, Yo,
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Speaker 2: this can play her, this can work her, and this
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Speaker 2: can work there. It's not like I'm going into the
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Speaker 2: studio make a pop head. I don't know how to
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Speaker 2: fucking do that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I just go in there and if I hear a beat,
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Speaker 2: I like, I'm gonna do what I can do on
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Speaker 2: that beat. Now, I grew up hustling anyway, and you
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Speaker 2: know when you hustle as you always trying to keep
12:35
Speaker 2: a door open. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But obviously I've.
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Speaker 2: Sold drugs, but I've sold every ding. I sold burnout phones,
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Speaker 2: I sold T shirts. I said, you know, could whatever
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Speaker 2: it's in demand, That's where I was putting the energy.
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't no different with this music because I
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Speaker 2: feel like, yo, if I can get it, hit her,
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Speaker 2: get it hit her, get it, get hit to her.
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Speaker 2: Because if you look at all the songs, none of
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Speaker 2: them sound the like Country Grandma. Don't sound like e
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Speaker 2: I Yeah, don't sound like batter Up, batter Up, don't
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Speaker 2: sound like they're all different. Man with Me, don't sound
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Speaker 2: like Hot in here, Hot Sure, don't sound.
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Speaker 1: Like Dilemma number one sounds different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one, Air Force one, Yep, Pimp Juice, Grills, on
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Speaker 2: and on and on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, justin Dream, all of that ship is different. None
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Speaker 1: of those songs. Another slept On, Classic bad Boys Too soundtrack.
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Speaker 1: None of those songs sound alike.
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Speaker 2: And when you are able to have that type of options,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, you can always find an outlet.
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Speaker 1: I feel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you heard the Playboy Cardi album? He sampled
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Speaker 3: Ashanti's Only You record? Have you heard the song? No,
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Speaker 3: I haven't, but I heard that he did. It's it's
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Speaker 3: crazy because to me, that's one of the best beats,
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Speaker 3: like ever, like that beat his fucking insane shout to
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Speaker 3: your girl because that song's crazy.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, like he did it.
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Speaker 3: At Rolling Loud And when I tell you like crazy,
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Speaker 3: the place exploded.
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Speaker 4: It was it was crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was yeah, man, Yeah, she's you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: a fan of my wife.
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Speaker 3: Would you and your wife ever do like a Jay
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Speaker 3: and Bay type of album?
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Speaker 2: I think if it organically comes, if like if we're working,
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Speaker 2: we're doing songs in the studio and we start putting
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Speaker 2: the pieces together and it comes like that, I think
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Speaker 2: definitely possibilities.
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Speaker 1: We do a lot of shows together as well.
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Speaker 4: For sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are in a lot of shows together anyway,
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Speaker 3: because like if you're going to book a dope show,
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Speaker 3: like for guys like me.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's even we even discussing potential residencies in
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Speaker 2: Vegas together and things like that. We're trying to you know,
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Speaker 2: the options are there. We're just trying to make sure
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Speaker 2: things are what they need to do.
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Speaker 4: I always wonder this.
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Speaker 3: I feel like from a fan's perspective, there was always
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Speaker 3: like a like it was. It was probably made up
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Speaker 3: by by me and my friends, but I always felt
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Speaker 3: like this like rivalry between you and Ludacris, because you
15:03
Speaker 3: guys were very simultaneously like cracking at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Legend. And then he ended up but he ended up
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Speaker 1: signing Chingy from your city.
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, him and but more so Shaka, right, more
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Speaker 2: so more so Shaka.
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't a here's the thing. I was happy
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Speaker 1: for Chingy.
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Speaker 2: It was other people that was in the in the mix,
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Speaker 2: that was in.
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Speaker 4: Your on your side.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that.
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Speaker 2: Was manipulating the situation because they weren't a part of
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Speaker 2: what's going on. And because me and Chinky was cool,
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Speaker 2: Chingy was cool with all of the tics. If you
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Speaker 2: look at that video, Keywan and Murph is in that video, right,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I didn't really have a
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Speaker 2: problem because I told CHINGI yo, bro, I got to
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Speaker 2: put out MRF like murf is my is my focus
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Speaker 2: right now, and I would never knock.
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Speaker 1: So he went on and ran with that and.
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Speaker 4: Had a good run.
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Speaker 2: Man, are you crazy? That's that's that's another one of
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Speaker 2: my little billows. Man, he's actually going on tour with us.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, dude, Kingi's got records.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, Saint Louis got put on the map that
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Speaker 2: around that time on.
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Speaker 1: One hundred huge way.
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Speaker 3: Man, you were just I know you met Sexy Read
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Speaker 3: last night, but I saw you guys just chop it
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Speaker 3: up in the other room in there. How cool is
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Speaker 3: it to see, like, first of all, Saint Louis have
16:20
Speaker 3: somebody like Sexy Red. That's like on the fourth floort
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Speaker 3: of pop culture right now. She got a big record
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Speaker 3: with Bruno Mars. Like now, Saint Louis is known for
16:28
Speaker 3: because it's Nellyville, but it's Sexyville kind of too right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know she's she's doing the thing.
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Speaker 2: Man. You're just so happy for her because she's honesty.
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Speaker 2: Whether you you know some people you may agree, you
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Speaker 2: may not agree, but the thing about it is you're
16:42
Speaker 2: not You will never say she isn't real. She's honest
16:48
Speaker 2: and coming from where she's come from, and she's she's
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Speaker 2: feeding a lot of people from where she is, and
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Speaker 2: she's also appealing to fans all around the world and
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Speaker 2: people who accept her for who she is. And you
17:01
Speaker 2: always want that for anybody, man. And like I said, again,
17:05
Speaker 2: that's our little system. And it's our little system I'm
17:07
Speaker 2: talking about Saint Louis.
17:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, we hold we we hold.
17:10
Speaker 2: Littles down and she's she's doing a great job.
17:14
Speaker 3: What I used to have some Vocal obviously back in
17:17
Speaker 3: the day, Back in the day, they used to be
17:19
Speaker 3: at Burlington co Factory going crazy.
17:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:22
Speaker 3: When it comes to fashion, dog like the band Aid
17:26
Speaker 3: vocal clothing.
17:27
Speaker 1: The backwards jerseys.
17:29
Speaker 3: I mean you had your fingerprints all throughout, just like
17:32
Speaker 3: fashion trends for real, Like when you go to these.
17:35
Speaker 1: Two thousands parties, people be dressing like, yeah.
17:38
Speaker 2: Well, I was always told, man, you're you haven't made
17:40
Speaker 2: it until you're a costume, until until somebody's dressing up
17:44
Speaker 2: like you on Halloween, and you know that's what and
17:46
Speaker 2: then Nelly costume, that's when you know, Yeah, man, everybody
17:50
Speaker 2: had their own stamp on it. So I mean, yeah,
17:53
Speaker 2: I mean, you're thankful, bro, You're grateful and.
17:56
Speaker 1: You've touched a lot of people. So that's what that's
17:58
Speaker 1: what being an artist is.
18:00
Speaker 4: Talk to me about.
18:01
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, over the years, man, you know, country
18:04
Speaker 3: music has obviously become more pop culture than ever, but
18:07
Speaker 3: you were the first person in hip hop to step
18:10
Speaker 3: into that genre with Tim McGraw over and over obviously
18:13
Speaker 3: huge record. But now you see guys like, you know,
18:15
Speaker 3: my brother Jelly Roll, who was a rapper for years
18:19
Speaker 3: and now he's a superstar. You got you know, little
18:22
Speaker 3: Dirk Free him, but working with Morgan Wallend, Like, did
18:25
Speaker 3: you have any foresight or idea? Because that bro? Back
18:29
Speaker 3: then they told me I was crazy.
18:31
Speaker 1: My my, my, My.
18:32
Speaker 2: Label thought I was nuts because you got to understand,
18:34
Speaker 2: I'm coming off of Nellyville, right coming off of Nellyville
18:37
Speaker 2: and was a hard album.
18:39
Speaker 1: You just got got into it with Caress one.
18:41
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm coming off of Hot in Here, I'm
18:43
Speaker 2: coming off of Dilemma Air Force ones. And then I
18:46
Speaker 2: told my label, yeah, I want to do a song
18:49
Speaker 2: with Tim McGraw, I said, thinking about I got this idea.
18:52
Speaker 1: They're like, uh, what you what?
18:56
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I want to do a song
18:57
Speaker 2: with Tim McGraw, and thankfully enough, the powers that be
19:02
Speaker 2: entrusted in me because they were like, yo, you know,
19:07
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, what are we gonna do?
19:08
Speaker 1: Tell him? No, the guy ain't missed, you know what
19:10
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, but again, I grew up in Saint Louis.
19:15
Speaker 1: I was Saint Louis raised me.
19:17
Speaker 2: I'm a military baby, but I was born in Texas
19:20
Speaker 2: and the country is just it's just in the blood.
19:23
Speaker 1: You know.
19:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, I dope.
19:24
Speaker 2: And my uncle, My uncle is somebody who put me
19:28
Speaker 2: on to songwriting period like Lino Richie and everything and
19:32
Speaker 2: showed me everything Lina Richie was writing. He was writing
19:34
Speaker 2: music for country pop, R and B and everything, so
19:38
Speaker 2: you know, Charlie Pride and Hank Williams, George Straight, all
19:42
Speaker 2: of that, and I was on all genres of music.
19:46
Speaker 2: So this was something that I was like, Yo, I
19:49
Speaker 2: love the stories. I love the stories and the sincerity
19:51
Speaker 2: that comes from you know, country music. So you know,
19:55
Speaker 2: it was something that I wanted to try, something I
19:57
Speaker 2: wanted to do, And thankfully shout out to Tim McGraw,
20:00
Speaker 2: my big bro.
20:00
Speaker 1: He he believed.
20:01
Speaker 2: In me and gave me a shot and we were
20:03
Speaker 2: able to put together something like you said that came
20:06
Speaker 2: out in two thousand and four. Yeah, like two thousand
20:09
Speaker 2: and four and now yeah that was on the Yeah
20:13
Speaker 2: on Swiss Fuit and people, you know, they thought I
20:16
Speaker 2: was crazy until it hit and then they was like,
20:19
Speaker 2: holy shit, Yo.
20:20
Speaker 3: I remember the line the only only dudes moving units
20:23
Speaker 3: is the pimp juice in us? Did you and Eminem
20:27
Speaker 3: have any because at there was a certain point in
20:29
Speaker 3: time where it's communication you and but you and Eminem
20:32
Speaker 3: were like the like biggest selling artists in the world,
20:37
Speaker 3: very different obviously, but like, did you guys ever have
20:40
Speaker 3: any sort of conversation then?
20:43
Speaker 1: Or this was the thing.
20:44
Speaker 2: I misinterpreted something when I was really really new, and
20:51
Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to apologize to m you know
20:54
Speaker 2: what I mean. But I was at a time where
20:56
Speaker 2: you know, I'm coming in, I'm the new guy. Anybody
20:58
Speaker 2: talking you know from.
21:00
Speaker 4: What what was it that you missed that you misunderstood?
21:03
Speaker 2: Well, somehow I misinterpreted that he had something to say about.
21:08
Speaker 4: What we were doing.
21:09
Speaker 1: What we were.
21:10
Speaker 2: Doing, And when I went on MTV, I made some
21:13
Speaker 2: comments because you know, I'm I'm still fresh from what
21:16
Speaker 2: from the loop, I'm I'm ready, it's up like where
21:19
Speaker 2: you at. But that wasn't the case. Man and him
21:22
Speaker 2: is he's gold Man, you know what I'm saying. And
21:25
Speaker 2: he's so dope. And when that was going on, I
21:29
Speaker 2: forgot who. We was in Detroit and we were at
21:34
Speaker 2: the after party and somebody came and was like, yo, him,
21:38
Speaker 2: want to come through and holler and I'm like, okay,
21:44
Speaker 2: you know. And when he came in and he's such
21:47
Speaker 2: a dope cat, I think he had yo he. I
21:50
Speaker 2: think he had Hayley with him.
21:52
Speaker 1: She was young. They probably love your every day, That's
21:55
Speaker 1: what he was like. He was like, yo, man, my daughter.
21:58
Speaker 1: I was like, I felt like a dick. You know
22:00
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I felt it's just like yo,
22:02
Speaker 1: I felt like a dick.
22:03
Speaker 4: Man.
22:03
Speaker 2: And because we were we were Imminem fans, you know
22:08
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, we was and just miscommunication. Man and
22:12
Speaker 2: him is, he's he's a dope cat. Man, He's a
22:15
Speaker 2: He's a dope cat. And I'm glad. I'm glad we
22:18
Speaker 2: got that out the way because.
22:19
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it was like it was a
22:21
Speaker 1: sales rivalry here.
22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's fucked up when you people that you
22:24
Speaker 2: fuck with and that you admire on a on a
22:27
Speaker 2: level and you know what I'm saying, And it's like, yo,
22:29
Speaker 2: dude spits, you know. And I appreciate all factors of
22:34
Speaker 2: hip hop. I appreciate the battle rap because Saint Louis
22:37
Speaker 2: is huge for battle rap.
22:38
Speaker 1: Shout out the hit man, holler herb. You know what
22:41
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
22:41
Speaker 2: A lot of the battle rappers that come about it there,
22:44
Speaker 2: and you know, we appreciate that side. And we we
22:48
Speaker 2: got hit makers as well and things like that. So yeah, man, yeah,
22:52
Speaker 2: I'm glad we squashed that man because m was well,
22:56
Speaker 2: EM's a cat.
22:57
Speaker 4: He's one of them guys.
22:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what obviously you you you're running crazy on
23:02
Speaker 3: the road up.
23:04
Speaker 4: I know you're going to Australia tonight.
23:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, Australia later tonight. Start this couple of shows to
23:10
Speaker 2: come back and kick off the What a Party Yet
23:12
Speaker 2: tour and just have some fun this summer. Man, Look,
23:16
Speaker 2: who is gonna be on the tour? Tour over here
23:20
Speaker 2: is a little bit like, here's a little bit different.
23:22
Speaker 2: Some of the people, you know, they couldn't get over there.
23:24
Speaker 1: You know, Australia is a little different.
23:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got this trip.
23:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, well, I'm just taking my brothers
23:35
Speaker 2: over there, the Tics to Australia.
23:37
Speaker 1: We haven't been over there in a minute.
23:38
Speaker 2: But when we come back and we start over here,
23:40
Speaker 2: it's like myself, it's my brother joh is eve uh
23:45
Speaker 2: fab is on some ship shout out the fab fab.
23:50
Speaker 1: Is one of the most underrated.
23:51
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they were.
23:53
Speaker 2: That's my brother too, man, he's ill uh Tics uh
23:57
Speaker 2: my my little brother.
23:58
Speaker 1: Chingy And that's gonna be special stuff going around. Man.
24:02
Speaker 1: So we're just gonna have some fucking fun, know what
24:04
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The summer. I think we could use it.
24:06
Speaker 3: Yo. Did you in jaw like once you went to
24:08
Speaker 3: shanty Like, did he say, Man, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm.
24:12
Speaker 1: Glad, I'm glad. Job always remained cool for sure.
24:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, because even in the beginning, obviously, because we kind
24:17
Speaker 2: of came out similar.
24:19
Speaker 1: For sure, one hundred time, so you.
24:21
Speaker 3: Were a little bitfore in terms of like popping. But
24:23
Speaker 3: you know, Venni vetty Vicci was like two thousands, so
24:25
Speaker 3: around the same time. Yeah, yeah, I think I think
24:29
Speaker 3: he took off with Hollow Yeah.
24:30
Speaker 4: I think that might have been ninety nine.
24:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he got a he got a good hollow record.
24:36
Speaker 1: Yeah with Jay and X. But that's rule three three
24:39
Speaker 1: six is when things got different.
24:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, you know my brother, I
24:45
Speaker 2: think my brother was hitting that ground out here, that
24:47
Speaker 2: Graham going and we talk about teasing about that.
24:51
Speaker 1: You know, he started implementing the melodies. Yo, he hurt
24:55
Speaker 1: country grammar and he was like melodies a little more.
24:58
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like.
24:59
Speaker 2: I will give it to him, my brother, my cat,
25:03
Speaker 2: he found it. You know, it's about finding your niche.
25:05
Speaker 2: And when he found that note that that that that
25:08
Speaker 2: him because job job makes records. He knows he's got
25:12
Speaker 2: the implement of making records.
25:14
Speaker 1: Man. And my cat like he gets down, he gets down. Yeah.
25:18
Speaker 3: Like I said, dude, I think like when we think
25:20
Speaker 3: of the Drakes and all these guys who are singing,
25:23
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, this is all like Nelly derived Obviously
25:26
Speaker 3: you were influenced by a goodie mob and all that,
25:28
Speaker 3: but I'm like, man like, yo, like you made it
25:31
Speaker 3: cool to make songs, like to sing like it didn't
25:34
Speaker 3: always have, especially in that era that was that was
25:36
Speaker 3: you know when you turned on the radio back then,
25:38
Speaker 3: it was a lot different man obviously, DMX god Rest
25:40
Speaker 3: of Soul was.
25:41
Speaker 1: DMX had a lot of melody. DMX was.
25:43
Speaker 2: I remember seeing him in ninety eight in can Kun
25:46
Speaker 2: and I didn't know who he was. I had no
25:48
Speaker 2: idea and they were like everybody was going to this
25:50
Speaker 2: performance as.
25:51
Speaker 4: New kid dm MAX and leather overalls on.
25:58
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, The dog Chance, Yeah, I
26:01
Speaker 2: was like, damn in.
26:03
Speaker 1: His stage presence was just all times ill man, all
26:06
Speaker 1: time man. And he made a hell of an impression.
26:09
Speaker 3: So yeah, well listen man. Twenty five years of Country
26:12
Speaker 3: Grammar a classic album. Uh and it has stood the
26:16
Speaker 3: test of time. To thank you and uh so that
26:21
Speaker 3: means the Nellyville twenty five anniversaries a couple of years away.
26:25
Speaker 4: Yeah that's crazy.
26:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely man this yeah yeah old one, no O
26:30
Speaker 1: two so yeah twenty yeah. Wait, number one was on
26:35
Speaker 1: the Training Day soundtrack too, right, what was it? One
26:37
Speaker 1: was on the Training Day soundtrack?
26:39
Speaker 4: Great soundtrack, and then.
26:40
Speaker 1: Yeah we added it to What's See.
26:42
Speaker 2: We've been blessed man to be a part of a
26:45
Speaker 2: lot of great movements that bad boys.
26:47
Speaker 4: Bad Boys too.
26:48
Speaker 1: When Murph to help launch.
26:50
Speaker 2: Murph and Free City and then School boy, Murphy's Law Murphy.
26:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I just when I saw Murphy Lee backstage,
26:58
Speaker 3: Yeah there, no, I sold last night.
27:01
Speaker 4: I had to grab him and be like.
27:03
Speaker 3: I loved your album and Free City was my ship,
27:06
Speaker 3: dog Man, great album.
27:07
Speaker 2: We knew Murphy was gonna be because he's just a
27:10
Speaker 2: hard worker, you know what I'm saying.
27:12
Speaker 1: And we knew that he was, like, it's gonna be
27:14
Speaker 1: a fucking animal.
27:15
Speaker 3: Are you working on new music right now? We all,
27:18
Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys all being together. Everyone's probably inspired.
27:20
Speaker 1: Together, man, And the energy is good.
27:23
Speaker 2: And we've got so many people who want to be
27:28
Speaker 2: a part of it. As far as like you know, producers,
27:31
Speaker 2: we've expired. You know Metros from.
27:33
Speaker 4: The Louis He always got that cardinal.
27:36
Speaker 1: He grew up on us, you know what I'm saying.
27:38
Speaker 1: He'll tell you it's just like so him and Chop Squad.
27:41
Speaker 1: Have you linked with Metro booming to work it all that? Well? No,
27:45
Speaker 1: just family man, like like that's my little bro. We talk.
27:49
Speaker 1: But it's there.
27:50
Speaker 4: It is there.
27:51
Speaker 2: It's not a situation where we're not. It's just about
27:54
Speaker 2: finding that opportunity. But above and beyond that, like you
27:57
Speaker 2: said in the Saint Louis. We truly all we got,
28:00
Speaker 2: So it's.
28:01
Speaker 1: Not it's not like La. We don't have a breathroa
28:05
Speaker 1: of people who have been on that level like that.
28:09
Speaker 4: I went to East Saint Louis. I was into Saint
28:11
Speaker 4: Louis once.
28:13
Speaker 1: You must went to the strip club.
28:14
Speaker 4: I went to Pink Cadillage.
28:16
Speaker 1: The name pink Slip, Pink slip pink something. Yeah, that's
28:18
Speaker 1: ships crazy. I was in Louis.
28:23
Speaker 3: I was like, it's different over here. Yeah, very yeah, yeah,
28:28
Speaker 3: people don't know. That's like over the state line in Illinois. Yeah.
28:31
Speaker 2: Man, like East, we all party over in East. Great
28:33
Speaker 2: strip club though, Man, East St. Louis got the best clubs,
28:36
Speaker 2: always history, history, East St. Louis Is, you know. East St.
28:40
Speaker 2: Louis is the deal man. It's a very truthful place.
28:43
Speaker 3: Man.
28:43
Speaker 1: We love it. We grow up over there. As far
28:45
Speaker 1: as our party.
28:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, man, you're a fucking living legend, a goat.
28:50
Speaker 3: Congrats on twenty five years, Congrats on the iHeart Award,
28:52
Speaker 3: and Mann, I'm just honored to be sitting here with
28:56
Speaker 3: you dog.
28:56
Speaker 1: For my pleasure. Yes, thank you for the energy and
28:58
Speaker 1: the love.
28:59
Speaker 4: Yes, Sir Nelly let's go. Yes, sir, can I get
29:01
Speaker 4: a radio drop from you?
29:02
Speaker 3: Just say introduce yourself and say you're listening to the
29:04
Speaker 3: Bootleg cav Show.
29:06
Speaker 1: Yep, chack chack check. Yo, y'all know what it is.
29:09
Speaker 2: It's your man, Nelly I, and we're rolling out right
29:11
Speaker 2: here on the Bootleg calv Show.
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Speaker 1: Olah