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Jimmy Graham on Playing with A-Rod, Attempting a World Record, and Adrenaline Junkie Adventures (ENCORE) · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: What's up people, it's your boy, Camjay back with another
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  Speaker 1: episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now as
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  Speaker 1: we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: reflect on some of the incredible guests I had the
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  Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey, don't worry, though,
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  Speaker 1: I got you new episodes coming your way real soon. Relax,
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  Speaker 1: I got you. But in the meantime, in between time,
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  Speaker 1: let's rewind and play back some of my favorite interviews
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  Speaker 1: from season one. This week, I'll bring you the most
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  Speaker 1: interesting man in NFL. That's right, A man who really
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  Speaker 1: doesn't need introduction, but I'm given one anyways, A.
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  Speaker 2: Man whose passport requires no photograph.
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  Speaker 1: Sharks have a week dedicated to him, and he can
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  Speaker 1: speak French in Russian, Ladies and gentlemen, I present to
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  Speaker 1: you my former teammate, Jimmy Graham aka Hemy Graham. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I've got here on Off the Edge with my with
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  Speaker 1: my own podcast, but I feel like it's not my
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  Speaker 1: own today because I get to bring in one of
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  Speaker 1: my one of my guys I looked up to when
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  Speaker 1: I got to the league. You know, probably literally and
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  Speaker 1: you know, figuratively speaking saying in at six nine or
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to you want to call yourself. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, a teammate when I first got to the
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  Speaker 1: Saints and I watched him leave, go to Seattle, become
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  Speaker 1: the highest paid tight end, and then he went you know,
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  Speaker 1: other places and came back to the Saints past year
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  Speaker 1: where he was my teammate. Uh, to finish off, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe finish off.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to it.
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  Speaker 1: On such a phenomenal career, thirteen years in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Could we could fight for fourteen? But it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. You know, five time Pro bowler, two time
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  Speaker 1: All Pro, a man, a man who sued the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a man he knows no bounds. Jimmy Griham,
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  Speaker 1: my dog, my tight end. You know, my brother, I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you hopping on the pod.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I know we've been talking about it for
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  Speaker 3: a long time, man, but it's cool to see. You know, like,
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  Speaker 3: how how far you have come since those since the
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  Speaker 3: maker days of your rookie year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, man, just think about twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 1: If I would have had a podcast in twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 1: I would have lost my job.
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  Speaker 2: What like, would have got kicked out?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think half of us would
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  Speaker 3: have been probably you know, I mean, I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it's such a different era. You know, this this whole
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  Speaker 3: podcast era has done so much to expose not exposed,
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  Speaker 3: but to introduce like fans into so many players interests,
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  Speaker 3: so many players' lives, and you know, I just think
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's something that's that's really elevated the game
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  Speaker 3: for for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's like you you look over and Michael
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  Speaker 1: Parsons has a pod. You know, it used to be
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  Speaker 1: like guys would have to retire first, you know, Marcus Spears,
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  Speaker 1: the Ryan Clarks like, you know, and you had to
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  Speaker 1: have like some accolades and some like you can't just
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  Speaker 1: be anybody, you know. It tookate like Nate Burson had
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  Speaker 1: to go to Good Morning Football first and then go
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else and it goes and he played like eleven
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  Speaker 1: years in the league, like he had to work his
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  Speaker 1: way up and now he's that guy. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: now again, so now you got guys that like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Max Crosby has a podcast, Von Miller has you know,
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  Speaker 1: has a pod. It's all these guys across the league
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  Speaker 1: that you're getting that in depth feel and you know,
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  Speaker 1: me and Mark used to have one, and now it's
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  Speaker 1: just me. It's just like, just like my teammates do Bro,
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  Speaker 1: they leave me and I wish them better, and he's
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  Speaker 1: on TV killing the college scene and I'm just holding
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  Speaker 1: down a little pod.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'll be doing the same thing whenever you retired. Man,
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  Speaker 3: you got you got a big future, as we all know,
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  Speaker 3: as we all know, hey that.
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  Speaker 1: Is that is to be seen. But while we're here
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, we're gonna have a great time, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: We're the only two of the sort of like we
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  Speaker 1: were the consecutive years after the New Orleans Saint Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: So like, I just feel like we're old enough to
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  Speaker 1: remember them having a Super Bowl, but not old enough
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  Speaker 1: participate and just like wanting to be part of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you go back, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean. I can go back to my
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  Speaker 3: rookie year and you know, come, I remember the first
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  Speaker 3: time I was in then the ones huddle with Drew Brees.
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  Speaker 3: It was Drew Brees, Marcus Colston, Lance Moore, Bush, Jeremy
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  Speaker 3: Shockey and the best old line in all the football.
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  Speaker 3: And he rattled off this play and I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: what he was talking about. I mean, he said it
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  Speaker 3: so quick, he said it probably ten times Scots in
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  Speaker 3: Chase Daniels. Uh so. So I just basically just stayed
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  Speaker 3: there and stared at him, and he said, Hey, just
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  Speaker 3: just run an out round. Thanks, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it was it was to sit in that huddle with
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  Speaker 3: all those stars, you know, I mean with all I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Jeremy Shockey was a rock star, Reggie Bush, one of
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  Speaker 3: the most famous guys in the NFL, obviously Drew Brees,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Saint and you know, to sit there
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  Speaker 3: and be a part of that after a year before
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  Speaker 3: being on a basketball court. Man, there was there was
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  Speaker 3: no like every time I ever think or here's somebody say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: life's the simulation, Well that was my simulation moment for sure. Man.
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  Speaker 3: You know, obviously all of a sudden, sitting there and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, basically be an in the video game. It's crazy. Man.
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  Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Jimmy went to the U
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  Speaker 1: at the very end where maybe they weren't you anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but like, you know, it is what it played. Played
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  Speaker 1: basketball there at least at least we know that was
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  Speaker 1: good basketball, you know, football.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, listen, we still had a great team. Obviously when
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  Speaker 3: I came in, there was Devin Hester, Greg Olsen was
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  Speaker 3: still there, you know. I mean we still had guys.
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  Speaker 3: We just you know, kind of weren't figuring out kind
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  Speaker 3: of the way to win. And then you know, obviously
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  Speaker 3: some things haven't really rolled our way within the last
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  Speaker 3: last while.
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  Speaker 1: But I hear you, but at least, like you guys
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  Speaker 1: still fight to be good. Like you know, what was
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  Speaker 1: that two thousand and nine, two thousand and ten bowl whatever?
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  Speaker 1: That was col beats University of Miami in a bowl game,
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  Speaker 1: But like that was that.
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  Speaker 2: Was the end of COW.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was the last thing you guys ever
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  Speaker 3: did you know, you know? Unfortunately, and now I actually
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  Speaker 3: I love our current coach. I think he's doing great
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  Speaker 3: things there and you know, obviously being able to be
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  Speaker 3: back here in Miami, get back involved with the program,
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  Speaker 3: I might be in a couple of board seats and uh, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know watching the nil money roll out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta get that. And honestly, the biggest thing
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  Speaker 3: in University of Miami is a stadium. You know, just
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  Speaker 3: playing at Dolphin Stadium just doesn't have to feel like
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  Speaker 3: the Orange Bowl does, and you know, they really need
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  Speaker 3: somebody who can raise money and push towards maybe putting
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  Speaker 3: a like a small Tyson stadium in this place called
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  Speaker 3: Tropical Park down in the Gables. I mean, it'd be
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  Speaker 3: a hot sticket in Miami, and obviously the city would
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  Speaker 3: be able to use that, and we also be able
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  Speaker 3: to throw you know, the state championships there and just
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  Speaker 3: just do all kinds of things that kind of the
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  Speaker 3: Orange Bowl was. We really need that back for the university.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that happens.
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  Speaker 1: Let me know, so I can buy some land out
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  Speaker 1: there before them.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, I'll definitely let you know.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect.
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  Speaker 1: You've been such a great teammate this whole especially like
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  Speaker 1: my whole career.
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  Speaker 2: You've been my guy.
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  Speaker 1: But like this year, I mean, I'm not gonna lie you.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted so much more for you this year than
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  Speaker 1: you know, what was it? What was the what was
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  Speaker 1: the astronomical rate? It was like six are six targets,
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  Speaker 1: four touchdowns, Jimmy Braham And I'm like, so, why you're
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  Speaker 1: you're on the sidelines hyped up. I'm on the sidelines
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  Speaker 1: hyped up. But the fact that that makes you that
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  Speaker 1: much more like better of a teammate. In my eyes
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  Speaker 1: is this year is like you were never down, bro,
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  Speaker 1: Like you were consistently like giving juice to everybody. You
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  Speaker 1: on the sidelines, bro, just like amped up holds out
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like the man.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Man, with me, it's all about winning, man,
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  Speaker 3: That's all I care about. And you know, kind of
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  Speaker 3: one of the number one things I want to do.
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  Speaker 3: And the only reason that I decided not to retire
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  Speaker 3: and come back to OLES was I wanted to mend
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of those fences that you know that had
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  Speaker 3: kind of gotten burned after I got traded and obviously
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  Speaker 3: after I see the NFL. But but for me, man,
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  Speaker 3: there's there's there's nothing better, or in my opinion, I
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  Speaker 3: remember how close everyone was when they got to that championship,
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  Speaker 3: and then that's all I've ever yearned from my TAR
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  Speaker 3: career is that opportunity to go with my brothers and
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  Speaker 3: make that martial to the super Bowl. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: for me, you know what I mean, even if I'm
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  Speaker 3: not up or if the opportunity is not mine one,
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  Speaker 3: I know I'll be ready for it because you know,
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  Speaker 3: we always ready to eat, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: Like if it's not. It's not a question of if
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  Speaker 3: we will be ready. If we will and we already
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  Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen when those opportunities come. But uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, man, I was, I was. I knew I
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  Speaker 3: was there also to help and uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: kind of as a mentor for a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: younger guys. And then obviously my time with Juwan was
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  Speaker 3: incredible this year, you know, just especially when he finished
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  Speaker 3: the season. I'd love to see it. And he puts
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  Speaker 3: in the work, so you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 3: know my role now is a little different, obviously being
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  Speaker 3: thirty seven years old. But man, I'm but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm always be a competitor. Man I think I think
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  Speaker 3: no matter who it is or or where it is,
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  Speaker 3: if you get in the rezone, man, uh you know
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  Speaker 3: in the big unit's always ready.
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  Speaker 1: Always ready. It turned up this year you snagged one
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  Speaker 1: of them things. It was like it was too easy,
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  Speaker 1: Like over the Top didn't even with the Cuddy. It
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  Speaker 1: was in the red zone. Over the Top must need
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  Speaker 1: like third down and like twelve or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why you say that used to call
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  Speaker 2: car can't call carot More like Jimmy t.
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  Speaker 1: Next next years you scored touchdown and was like what
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  Speaker 1: you came up to the sideline, was like, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Him, I was him, I've been him. I am And
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  Speaker 2: I was like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, man, it's just like obviously I love
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  Speaker 3: the game and that's what I'm going to miss the
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  Speaker 3: most is kind of that just the height with your teammates. Man,
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  Speaker 3: there's there is nothing like that.
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  Speaker 1: So that tweet all love whatever whatever you say, bro.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked at I was like, oh, he just
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  Speaker 1: met like scenes over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I mean nobody said me up, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean obviously you know I was, I was an
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  Speaker 3: active for a couple of games and whatnot, So you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how people feel about me.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I know that I know that I can
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  Speaker 3: still run, I can still get open. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: still bigg.
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  Speaker 2: So giving out work at practice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I was like first coming in
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  Speaker 3: and not playing for a year, I knew the big
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  Speaker 3: question was like can this guy even move? You know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't sky playing a decade ago, but
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  Speaker 3: with all the biking, I do, you know, I'm kind
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  Speaker 3: of crazy when it comes to diet and everything. Man,
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  Speaker 3: I already knew it. I already knew like, once my
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  Speaker 3: hamstrings get used to the cutting that I was, wouldna
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  Speaker 3: still be able to kill. And so you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was just nice to be able to prove it kind
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  Speaker 3: of a basis, especially in practice.
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  Speaker 2: Fact, I mean, that's just it.
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  Speaker 1: You might have like after taking a year off, there
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  Speaker 1: might have been a cheat code, honestly, like let your
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  Speaker 1: body heal like an off season. It takes you three
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  Speaker 1: and a half four months to be like I'm good again.
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  Speaker 3: I mean one hundred percent. I mean really, So if
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  Speaker 3: you can remember how kind of things went kind of
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of my career, I get traded with
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  Speaker 3: the me brace. Yes, I mean I get traded for
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  Speaker 3: a first round pick. I have some life stuff that
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  Speaker 3: went down the off season, and then Week ten, the
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  Speaker 3: highest paid to ever live, I completely blow my knee up,
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  Speaker 3: and Victor Cruz called me and he said, hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: this one's impossible. You know, we had the same injury.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at my career and you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to make it, you know, a Hall of Fame career,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it like I might even play
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  Speaker 3: another snap. So to sit there and be on crutches,
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  Speaker 3: not way bearing for ten ten eleven weeks. I had
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  Speaker 3: to learn how to walk, learn how to jog. And
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  Speaker 3: in that season, my patello actually wasn't healed completely. But
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: as you know, we gotta play, gotta need gotta met,
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  Speaker 3: gotta gotta be an FDL can miss games. So I
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  Speaker 3: played the whole season with incomplete batilla, end up making
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  Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl. But basically every every season after that,
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  Speaker 3: I was having like minor surgeries just clean up some stuff,
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  Speaker 3: just because I really wasn't able to let my knee
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  Speaker 3: completely heal because the window and the off season is
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  Speaker 3: just so small, so I was just kind of always
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  Speaker 3: building up for the season. And then this degradation of
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  Speaker 3: my quad and my knee what happened during the season.
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  Speaker 3: So taking a year off for me, man, it changed everything.
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  Speaker 3: Like this is I mean my knee right now, it's
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  Speaker 3: my knees are strong they've ever been. And it was
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  Speaker 3: from that year. And then obviously the bike, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Right, bike, Yeah, and you walked through the building, You're like,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, bro, He's like, yeah, man, I just a
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  Speaker 1: car hit me while I was on my bike, and
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  Speaker 1: I made sure the car was Okay, the.
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  Speaker 2: Hell you on, Jimmy fat Well?
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  Speaker 3: No, No, I mean well, obviously I lost a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of way, so I was wondering. So once I
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  Speaker 3: got hit out of that car and just ate it,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, man, I probably still do this football thing.
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  Speaker 2: Can we just talk about this like this was an
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  Speaker 2: off season?
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  Speaker 1: This is like, hey, I took you took a year off,
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  Speaker 1: but like I don't know if I'm coming back to football.
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  Speaker 2: So you're biking down and where was it? Miami?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I'm fucking done in Miami, and I'm I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to prepare because I got some hundred mile races
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  Speaker 3: uh to head to, and then I ended up going
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  Speaker 3: to I knew I was going to Italy to ride
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  Speaker 3: across Tuscany, which is like three hundred miles, so I
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: was just training. I was on my way back to
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  Speaker 3: the boat and I had left the Pelton on so
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of by myself. And by a week earlier,
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  Speaker 3: there was just like there's a there's a light where
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  Speaker 3: there's kind of like a quick left turn, and every
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  Speaker 3: day I used to go about it, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: if somebody doesn't see me here, there's something dangerous, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, I kind of kept alert. And then literally
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  Speaker 3: a week later, I'm just going on. I'm like hitting
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  Speaker 3: like twenty twenty five, and I look and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: does this guy see me? And I'm like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: and he just yanks into me, and I mean that's
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  Speaker 3: really all I could do is just kind of just
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  Speaker 3: kind of brace for it. He hits me, I go
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  Speaker 3: flying the bike. It was a it was a Mercedes Suv.
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  Speaker 3: It hit me and then the whole bike ricocheted on
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  Speaker 3: my right leg and I go flying through the air
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  Speaker 3: land on my back. My helmet like splits open. I
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  Speaker 3: think I was wearing helmet. Obviously, if a bike, always
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  Speaker 3: wearing helmet. Never never think you don't need a helmet.
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  Speaker 3: And so at first I thought, I like, at first,
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  Speaker 3: I honestly thought that I broke my femur with the bike.
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  Speaker 3: The bike was completely shadowed. It shattered in like six places.
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  Speaker 3: Everything was tore up.
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  Speaker 2: But I know the street bikes is light and built
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  Speaker 2: for speed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and the bike wasn't cheap, so bike with
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  Speaker 3: it it was like a twenty thousand bike. But so
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  Speaker 3: we got to replace. We got to crash replacement Specialized
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  Speaker 3: shout out. I appreciate it, but you know, I ended
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  Speaker 3: up getting stitches at the hospital. But you know, I
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  Speaker 3: was on a bike two days later, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: everything was fine. Man, always good.
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  Speaker 2: What type of bike is it?
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  Speaker 1: Because now I want to know because like I've got
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  Speaker 1: an orbea and I thought my Orbit was is a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful bike?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, many thousand dollars bike.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm top of the line, Like I
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  Speaker 1: had to work out to deal with them because I
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  Speaker 1: was like I'm not oh.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're pretty. And you got to think about
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: also the components. So my old bike was an SL
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: seven s Work Specialized, but my new replacement was a Slight,
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: which is kind of their newer update, which is beyond better,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: like in every way. The problem with the SL seven
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: for me, because I waste so much, is every time
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I would get up the sprint, like I have a
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: my max wattage is two thousands. So when I go
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: to sprint, I could feel the bike like flexing beneath me,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: like nasty, like it just didn't interesting, all right. And
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: then once I now with the SLA, it's more, it's
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: got more stiffness, it's more Arrow. It's like everything you want.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: And then my other bike, my climbing bike is a
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: is a Pinarello Dogma and that was the most expensive one.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Bro, you have a climbing bike, see this, I'm you know,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I'm in Arizona, so I don't have heels, bro.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So so basically in Miami, I have an
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: arrow bike, which is really my Sol eight now, which
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: is on a one by on the front, so I
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: got a big chain ring on the front because we're
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: just on flats, so I can just rip and and
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: really the object the object of that, because you're pedlo
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: constant for three hours, you're behind people, you're in a peloton,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: you're trying to do these sprints. But a climber needs
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: to be lighter and also needs a completely different gearing
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: on the back because being this big, you're going to
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: be like when I'm up there in North Carolina or
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I go to Colorado, or I go to Europe, and bikes.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Are no jokes. I was I told you about that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I was in I was in Bilbao and I did
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I died. I died it three times. I felt embarrassed.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I was like no, I was like, Bro, I.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Go fifteen twenty twenty five miles in a day, like
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: off just or whatever. He's like, yeah, we're gonna go
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: for a thirteen click and I was like, thirteen clicks.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's like six miles, seven miles.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Whatever that is.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: It's like I got that, bro, I had about three times,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, it's the biking is the hardest,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: one of the most competitive things I ever done in
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: my entire life. What these guys in the Twitter Frances
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: are doing is I mean, it's there. They're basically killing
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: themselves every day through through a twenty one day period.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Most of those guys have like rabdough. They're completely wasted.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: They lose all this. I mean, they're doing all they
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: can just to hold on. But when you're in the mountains, man,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: especially guys our size, Oh, it's so much work. The
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: amount of watch it so the mountains is wats per kilo.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: That's how fast you know you can go off mountains
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: And obviously we weigh way too much again a bike
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: doing thing like that, So we're working ten times hard
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: than anybody that's morning ten times man.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Like I see the caps going, I'm like, bro, I'm
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: pumping I'm killing this, like I'm killing this right now.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you take you take off this.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: You know, the car takes you out.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: You take out the car, You hit the ground, bro,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you splits, you get up, you shake it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Off, and that makes you be like, all right, I'm back.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Think I'm ready for football.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I think I can do this. But also because like
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: all the people I do and train with on a bike,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I kept telling everybody just how great my knee felt,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: you know, I was like, man, I feel unbelievable. And
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: plus I was I remember like I did like a
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: like a weak loading period before before I went down
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: or just so I was like, because I hadn't ran
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: or cut since twenty twenty one, I had done anything.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I seen a ball in there. I mean, I didn't
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: do anything. I just showed up. So when I was running,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I felt bouncy like I used to, you know, like
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: back before the knee happened. I was like, man, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: feel like I could do a backflip right now. And
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: so when I went down there, you know, obviously, man,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I still have the speed, still still could jump, and
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I can honestly say it was because of the bike
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and what it did for my name one hundred.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: You cat.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You came into what was that off season whatever that was.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You were like, you came to the building. I was like, yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna text me and.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Let me know you coming back. I was like, I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: was like, you want some jar like you want some
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Jarry Jamonsko. I was like, what you want? You're like, nah, Bro,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I'm running this. He was like, I think I got
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to run a forty at like eight.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: He's like, now, I'm just gonna go run some Browns
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, or you can't do to practice the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: next day, bro, I was like, and Jimmy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Matthews walked up to you. You're like, You're like, oh,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you coached him, big.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Dog like you No, I'm out here. I'm out here
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: just just with you. It's funny to the you know Matthews, man,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: we we have battled so many times on separate teams.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: You know. I remember when I came in his rookie year.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: He was talking all this cash in the media before
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: we played, and Sean Payton was all over me about it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton puts some like dB on me every down
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and practice one on one and was like the honey
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Badgers gonna be all over you, honey budget and and
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: so going to that game, I mean I was ready
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: to die. I was like, I'm a murderous dude. We
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: ended up I ended up doing pretty well at that game,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: but we we ended up meeting up a couple of
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: times in Seattle, man and just have battles when he
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: was in Arizona. Man, I have so much respect for
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: him and just how he handles his business.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: And because he comes up to here him Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Dude, is it's like unbelievable how productive he's been and
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: how special he is, you know, I mean, especially at
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: his size or hype. You know, it's just like unreal.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: His just his like his his intelligence of the game,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: his like nose for the ball just beyond special.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, Like I always just has a knack to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: be where it's at. I've never had a I've never
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: got a chance to ask you out of you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you've you've seen what Jay Cutler, Aaron Rodgers, of course,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You know, Uh you have Russ. Do you have a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: favorite quarterback?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Man? I? You know, I have my favorites in different ways,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like like like I break
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: things down on it. Just just how they are as
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: a player, you know, and and and all three of
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: them are completely different by human beings basically just how
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: they operate even on the field. Obviously, me and Drew
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the connection, I don't think there was ever anything better,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: you know, we uh, you know, I think now when
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you see guys like Travis, you know, and Sam Fran
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like that was also based on a
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: lot that me and Drew were able to do. Obviously
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: alongside of Gronk and Brady. You know, when me and
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Drew together for those five years, the numbers we put
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: up and where we're able to do, it's really just
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the connection was so special. Man, he knew exactly what
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I was doing and I knew what he was doing.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It was almost like we could read other thoughts. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: then obviously went out of Seattle, they were more of
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: a run team, so you know, for me, they're like, hey,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I know, you're used to getting a hundred balls the season,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: but if you get sixty here, you're gonna break every record.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I still have other records, but
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: it's it still was only like sixty. And they were right,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: it was, you know, I mean it was different because
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: we just ran the ball so much and a lot
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: of play action, a lot of scrambling. But with Russ,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I mean just kind of how we up. Like this dude,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: he was like never down, like ever about anything, you know.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: So we'd be down by three touchdownds, he said, all right,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: one more we're gonna like he's always saying, and so
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: like it makes you believe it, you know. And and
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: there was times when we came back and when you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: other times we would have just packed it up and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: went to the next game. But man, he was he
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: was always a positive about everything. And then and then
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Aaron when it comes, I don't think I've ever seen
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: anybody throw the ball in Aaron Rogers. No. You know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: my time there wasn't the greatest. Obviously, timing sucked, you know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: My first year, Mike McCarthy gets fired. That was an
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: absolute mess. And then the second year, you know, mattla
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Flour comes in with a new offense, doesn't really give
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Aaron any power to do what he wants. So we
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: made an MC championship, but our offense wasn't great because
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: basically he wouldn't let Aaron, you know, actually change the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: right play and do these certain things. But when it
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: comes to tossing the rock, man, I don't I don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: think live I've ever seen anybody throw the ball like
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: he does ever. Just it's just everything that he doesn't do.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's like our work. Like the way
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: that comes out of his wrists and the way he
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: flips it. It's just stupid. Like we're doing like drills,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: like like resilent drills. No, no, no, like two minutes and
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: we have like five seconds left. He moving on like
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the logo, and this dude would just scramble around a
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: little bit. He'd be looking over here and he would
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: throw the ball to the right and now looking at
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the receiver one on one on the right side to
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: do that like it's just and the ball was just
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: slinging right to him. It's just crazy. I mean his arm,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: his arm, yeah, yeah, his arm by part the best service.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know they don't want to just take
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: credit for that. You know, he'll probably call.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: He'll probably claim is his junior collegeut out out in California,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But bears guy, you know, University of California.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: But you too, who else right now? Is is you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: at the top of the game, like you guys are,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: somebody would.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Say, like, you know, there's an NC Championship game coming up,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, I think Detroit Lions are doing really
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: really well, coached really.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Well by just a myriad of great coaches.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But you would say the face of that would be
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a Colbert, you know, good old Jared Goff, the last Yeah. Yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the last first rounder to be drafted of the University
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: of California bird number one.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm man, I'm so happy for him. Man,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy for him. Man, him and and the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: head coach that whole city deserves it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Man, did you play with Dan? You didn't play?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: No? Come on, bro, come on, I'm saying no, but no. No.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Dan was almost my coach because, uh, the year right
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: before I got traded, they had fired my tight end
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: coach and they brought him in, so I was supposed
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: to be talking to him, and then I got traded.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: So yeah, ob Seattle, you.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Sue the NFL. Who do you?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Who? Do you know?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Sues the NFL and then sort of wins.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Like didn't went to you like you wanted to be
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: paid ribrace money, but you know, suit him because you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: were out in the slot like seventy percent of the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: time versus what your tight end situation was. But sort
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of wins and then you know, becomes the highest paid
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: tight end resets the whole market the first tight end.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I re said it twice. But what was interesting, What
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: was interesting was, I mean, none of that should ever
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: really happened, you know what I'm saying, Like they never
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: even offered me a contract to start with. You know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: they said that. My agent told me, hey, they're going.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: To start it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: No now now now you're welcome. You're welcome. Now. They
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: pay guys who deserve it early right back then they
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: were playing harble so you know, like guys, you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: guys would basically be franchise school of pre agency or
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: they would play horrible, or you have to sign something
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: that wasn't really where your market was. But you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: basically they said, well, the franchise SAG is so cheap
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that we're not going to offer you like a contract.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: We're going to franchise you twice that you'd be thirty,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: we'll get rid of you. Right when they said that,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, like there's no way that's happening,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: especially well, especially the way I played. The way I played,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I was bound to get hurt, like it wasn't it
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: wasn't a chance of if it was win and how
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: bad because you know that was the old school over
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the middle. All we ran was uh basically, I'll go
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I'll go special, and I was getting tattooed across the middle.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, I mean I had to find guarantee money.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So I had to and you got it though, you
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: being you being over Seattle for for extended period of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: time and then now Pete Carroll, you know, retiring, did
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that have any impact on you?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Like what was what was Pete Carroll's legacy?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Like, man, I had a special relationship with Pete. Obviously
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: they were a big part of that trade. Uh Pe
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: was phenomenal with me as far as like letting me
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: fly into work. You know, he wasn't tripping about the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: planes and the cars and all the extracurricular stuff.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: When you say, when you say flying the work, what
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you're talking about.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Uh So my first week on a job, John Northstrom,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: who used to own the team, he sold it to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Paul Allen, but he was still very close because you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: his friend owned it. So and so he used to
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: come into work all the time. So he so he
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: comes in. He's like, hey, my name is John Northstone.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I us still on the team. I heard you're a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: pilot and I was like yeah. He's like, have you
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: do you have your set your seaplane license? I said no,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: but I've been I've been thinking about getting that. Jack Brown.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I flew in. Uh, if you want
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: to go out and see my seatplane. I was like yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: So we walk out to the dock and literally right
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: on the bottom of Lake Washington. He had this thing
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: called a beaver On Anthips, which is like this old
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: school warplane that Canada was built in Canada. A bunch
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: of went to Vietnam and uh. So we got this
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: thing and we went flying over the city man and uh.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: A week later I went and got my seaplane license,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and then a couple of months later I bought one
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: and restored it. So I bought one that fought in
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Vietnam and so I had to fully rebuild. So the
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: next year, when the plane was ready, like three times
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: a week, I used to fly into work. So I
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: looked at the top of Lake Washington. It's like a
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: forty five minute drive. It's kind of far, but it
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: was a five minute flight. So I used to just
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: take off sometime I would like live stream it and
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: then I would just land maybe five minutes and I
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: get out, tied up and go to the go to practice. Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: It was nice.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It was and it like connected to the facility and
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: connected like the back of the facility or like yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, like like like you fly from the crib,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So you drive to your plane from your house, which
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: is a couple minutes, and then you fly down.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I literally fly down the lake literally five
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: minutes I land. It's like you have to talk to
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: one of the towers at the written at the well.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: There's a little one down there. There's a little one
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: that they make, I think one of the one of
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the boatings they make down there, and you just basically
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you get on the radio. Then I just literally pull
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: up to the dock. I jump out tied to the
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: little floating duck and like I had my little like
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: parking space number like Jimmy Graham's yeah, and then you
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: like go through and that connects right to the players
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: parking mom and so he just walked up. So people
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: would like like coaches would watch me fly into the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: d Yeah. It was kind of weird, Jimmy, you don't see.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: But it was also cool because that's that's when I
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: started doing the wounded warrior stuff. So we used to
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: bring in, uh sometimes on either Monday or Tuesday, we'd
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: bring in a wounded warrior and we give him like
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: a full tour the facility. We gear him down with
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: e K we'd give him a jersey, and then I
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: would take them on the dock and I would fly
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: them and I would actually teach them how to fly.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: So we'd be over like Washington, I'd be there wooded
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: warrior flying and then we go back, I drop them
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: off and go home. I mean it was it was
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: a pretty cool experience for sure.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: So so he didn't come down on you like the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Cowboys came down on our dog Brandon Cooks, because.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: To you know what, Dak and Mike, Yeah, yeah, it
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: was like you can't do that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: We didn't even hear, but like you you doing that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: was like hey man, you guys, you know you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Guys flew before I got you. Didn't take you on
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a plane.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the Saints when I was young tried some
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of that That's that's why I was pretty quiet, Like
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't have Instagram, so like way later than most people.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: And one of it because I was, you know, I'm
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: kind of private, but I was definitely being private about
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the flying thing because I knew it was going to
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: be an issue. So basically I had like four licenses,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: four or five licenses by the time they found out,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and I already owned two planes. So because they were like, hey,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: we want like, you can't be in anything that isn't
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: a jet that doesn't have two engines or a co pilot.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, already got an airbatic plane, bro,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: so that's not happening. And that's it. That was really
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the end of it, you know what I mean. I
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: told them, like an airbac clane, I'll wear a parachute.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: But that's about it. I mean. And then now you
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: know I'm a commercial multi single. You know, I've got
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: everything now to where I'm beyond proficient and basically everything
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that fly or anything. And but I've taken a lot
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: of teammates.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, the coolest flight moment you say, I'm gonna say,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Blue Angels. When I saw what I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, flew with the Blue Angels, like yeah, door.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Out of here, I would say last year in June.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: So I'm the honorary commander of the Homestead Air Force
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Base down here in Miami, which is also the home
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to our world renown MAKOS, which is our F sixteen
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: fighter squadron. They've been deployed in various things over many years.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Right now, some of them are working as presidential detail
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: up in Washington.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Classify get my canceled.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, it's you could look up. You
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: can look all that up online. But we so so
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: in June they ended up having a D Model sixteen.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: So I got to fly with one of my good
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: friends from the macOS and it was incredible. You know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: the day or the week before, I had to go
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: through all the like survival stuff and like in case
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you get in the water, and all the cockpit stuff
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and obviously it had a full live ejection seat and
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: all this, you know, the oxygen system. But you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: to be able to take that down south, we're right
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: over the keys Key westward kind of out out over
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the water. We had between the ground and sixty thousand
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: feet and man sixty sixty thousand. Yeah, and to be
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: able oh yeah, crazy work, oh yeah, it's in. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: to be able to go that fast, you know, do
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the various things that we did and the flybys that
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: we did was just magical. Man. It was everything that
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: In perspective, like a commercial flight.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: You get on you know, Delta Southwest United flying, you're
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: going with ten thousand, ten thousand, be near?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Are you in that eye?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're between the thirties, so you're thirty thirty five thousand.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Those are mostly where those fly. All the bigger jets,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: like all the private jets still fly like higher forties
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: and then in the fifties.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: But and you're on the sixties.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're well they had a block out that
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: amount of space for all the maneuvers that were doing,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: and so we would have enough to be able to
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: climb and do some of these awesome, interesting military maneuvers
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: that that's really cool. That's crazy, really cool.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: All right, So now I almost say football is out
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the way, but it's sort of it's.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Only a side, right, it's only a side.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: You're not saying full retirement, but you possibly could come
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: back anyway. So if this is retirement, during the season
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you talked about rowing across the world or whatever the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: hell that was. Are you still talking about trying to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: sail across the world or continent to continent?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: No, is that a thing?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, So there's been an update, the most recent update,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: and we're all in on this thing now. So apparently
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: someone had read that I was trying to sail around
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the world, and so they ended up reaching out and
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: asked me if I would think about trying to break
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: a world record. But knownst to me earlier last year
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: one of my very close friends, he's been a CEO
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: for twenty three years. He just retired. He's working private
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: equity now. And I told him at a pub at
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: his graduation because he also got his NBA from Cambridge.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I told him, hey, because he'd been asked me to
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: do this for eight years, and I said, okay, we're
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: getting a little banged up. And I said, He's like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: you're the only person that will do this with me,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: So will you do what? I think it'd be incredible
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: experience for us, both very challenging and great opportunity. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: the person that reached out to us was on the
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: national the US National Open Ocean Rowing team, and so
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: now we are we have a meeting in two weeks altogether,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: and all the this is all the beginning stages of
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: what we're going to do an attempt, but we're going
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: to attempt in twenty twenty five to set a world
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: record by rowing across an ocean with a four person team.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: And it's a four person mixed team.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So the next team being men and women.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was going to be that, but now there's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: that we're actually taking one of the shorter routes to
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: start with, and then the next we're probably gonna race.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: So the first route that we just decided basically a
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: week ago, and our first training camp is gonna be
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: in two weeks because one it's gonna be hilarious because
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: my boy rode in college. The other guy who was
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: actually married to to to the girl we're doing it with, uh,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: well she's got a gold medal for the open ocean
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: rowing and the guy is actually two lanes rowing coach.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: So it's so yeah, yes, So I'm gonna be back
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: in New Orleans and we're gonna meet about where some
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: of these charitable contributions are going to go to, which
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: are probably gonna be young kids in the New Orleans
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: area to expose them to certain things. But we're all
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: going to it looks like attempt to row across the
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Arctic Ocean and that's going to be twenty twenty five.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Now you know, I'm a Miami boy, so you know
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: how cold. Yeah, well it's gonna be in the summer.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: It's like twenty four hour day life. But obviously it's
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: very dangerous. And then after that we plan to possibly
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: row across the Pacific Ocean. Now that's that's all of
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: these things are very dangerous obviously, and we're gonna have
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: to get a lot of certifications. Yeah, but that's what's
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: next for me.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Man, is how long bro like just guesstimate, like how
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: long would that take to cross an ocean?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, well, it just depends on which ocean you
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: cross and at what time of year. But most likely
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: if we do it, if we do one of these
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: open ocean races, is we're most likely going to do
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the Pacific, which it would be from California to Hawaii,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and that can take anywhere between thirty to forty some days.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: And the very interesting about this is I'm going to
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: film a lot of this and most likely make a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: document out of it. One Jimmy biggest Jimmy, can we
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: just talk about this one? You have? Everybody else knows
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: how to row, but I've never rode before. So that's
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: where this is so interesting. Is it's going to be
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: comical because obviously I'm very competitive. My boy, he's beyond competitive.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: So it to just be us basically talking to uh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: you know, also me trying to learn how to roam.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I've never sustained rowing. I've never
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: rode in the open ocean. I've never been on a rowboat.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: All of these things are factors. But where I think
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: this works in my favor is one, we're chasing world
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: records and we're and we're doing it for a great cause.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: But two, if I can roll across, if I can
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: roll across the ocean sailing a big yacht, it's going
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: to be easy. So that's if.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: That's your motivation.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like practice for the for the solo sailing.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: And that's that's kind of the way I see it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And you know, it just really gives me something to
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: look forward to and you know, something that athletically I
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: can push myself in a new direction. You know, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I don't have to take hits anymore. I can just
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: sit there and just get to work.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: What the bro Me and Mark was like, you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we do like these family vacation you know vacations whatever. Bro.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: We were in the Caribbean on this yacht and you
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: know how they like dock it, like you know whatever
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that is they dock it. Let's call it three four
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: hundred yards out from the beach right depending on where
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: it's at. Me and him were like, hey man, you
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: think you could make the other side. So we swam
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to the to the beach and we're like dog as
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: tired after a ten minutes swim.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: You're trying to roll, you're trying to row for thirty days.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Can technically yeah, what's also yeah, Like, what's also interesting
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: about it is it pushes you in every way mentally physically.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: You know, we are going to only get two hour breaks,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: so you know, basically you're off for two hours, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I think that means you don't get another time off.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: So you row for six and you're off another two
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: and so over a cumulative time, I think you getting
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: like six hours of sleep a day, maybe five, But
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: within your two hours, your responsibilities. You have to clean obviously,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: do some it depends on what your job is as
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: far as tracking goes moving, obviously, you've got to get
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: some sleep during that period. So not only is it
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: challenging like that, but it's also you're dealing with a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: lot of sleep deprivation. You're dealing with if you're doing
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: the Pacific, you're dealing with storms obviously and being on
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: a rowboat at night. So that's why I believe this
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: will just prepare me for the sailing. I'll be able
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: to use what I've learned in sailing and flying as
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: far as weather and tracking to go to this rowing thing.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But but but selling, you're like sort of you're by
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: yourself on this right, So really it's just you tracking.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: You Yes, yeah, rowing rowing, it's literally.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Like a team.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And as much as I love my teammates, I couldn't
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: imagine being like me and you know Carl and Peyton
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Turner and Malcolm Roach.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: For thirty straight days.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Not catching sleep like that. Somebody, somebody's getting thrown off
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the rowboat.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Somebody. Well see this is see, this is some of
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: the most challenging parts of it is obviously the team
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: personalities matter. You know, we're gonna do a bunch of
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: team building activities just to make sure we're all the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: right people to be on the boat. But but then,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: but then, also you get super close to each other.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Obviously because there's no bathroom on this boat, there's just
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: gonna be there's just gonna be a carbon fipper bucket.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So you know, well, I didn't even think about, oh yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: what second, I got to take a piss rowing I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: going way.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: It's always getting pissed on, I'm calling it now.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure. Well, I mean, like imagine rough Seas,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: big storm. Uh, you know, it's it's this is gonna
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: be the hardest thing I've ever signed up for, to
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: be the hardest thing I've ever done, and it'll be the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: most challenging. But I believe that, you know, obviously after
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I get done with this, and obviously being able to
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: do this with uh, you know, one of my best friends,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: and to share this experience with him, and to obviously
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: do it for a great cause. I think there's nothing
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: better I could sign up for. Immediately right after a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: football storm.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Sign me up, man, fat, I mean, when you say
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: what's next, most people thinking you know are like the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: pe guys, they're like private equity or like, oh, I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: gonna start flipping houses. Oh I'm gonna get into you
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: know whatever. That next phase is start a podcast and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you are like, yeah, I'm gonna go thirty forty days
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: in the Arctic.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Well, well, you know obviously with businessman, I'm you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I've been always active and I don't think people.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that's not something you picked up. That's
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: something that's you know, you've been.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: On Yeah, yeah, one hundred. So I'm I'm obviously gonna
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: keep doing that at scaling all of the things that
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I'm that I'm involved with.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just be I'll be waiting for my phone call.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It won't come, but it's okay. I know officially he's
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: gonna call, will you and you? Between between you and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: John Wilma, I don't know who keeps more secrets from me.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I'll be like Roes, I have liquid.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I've got some big things down a popular man.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I'll definitely keep you up to day.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Before I get you out here.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Man, you've been a tight end who's played at such
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: at the highest level, at being all pro you know,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: pro bowler been. You know, You've done so many miraculous things,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: seen so many playoffs. Who do you got winning this year?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: We're getting down, We're getting down to the to the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to the final final.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: That's it's a hard one because there's there's there's there's
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: people I would love to win.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: There's four teams left. I hear you.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, man, I would love to see Baltimore doing
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, uh, I would love to see
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: you know, just I think personally Lamar, I feel like
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: he's gotten so much black and so many people just
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: don't believe in him and believe in the way they plays.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: But I think he the way he's been playing, especially
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: as of late, it's just special. And I think he's
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: done a lot to change the game and continue to
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: evolve the game. But you know it, how like to me,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: how UNBELIEVABLEILL be in Baltimore versus Line super Bowl, which
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: is something that no one would have ever predicted, no
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: doubt ever ever.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Ticket sales been going crazy in Detroit. I don't know
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: if you say that, like the highest detail value tickets today.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean because I played against
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the Lions over the last however long and those things
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: were free and uh, but but not anymore. Man. It's
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: it's it's just unbelievable what what Dan's men will do
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: out there, you know, obviously turning that place around, changing
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: the culture, changing the environment, and just having people understand
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: how poor winning is, and you know, just kind of
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: turning the team into the same exact blue collar, hard
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: gritty type of community.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Dan Kelp said, we're gonna crawl and we go if
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: we need to take bit n cats off.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Exactly years later, they lie people. People thought it was crazy.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: He said it, but he wouldn't line. He wouldn't line
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: because that's what they're doing for sure, looking.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: At him, like, what are you talking about. Nah, he's
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: from a different era.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: He believes in doing all that he's saying, Like he
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: actually played the game for ten years. Like if there's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: coaches that can't say that he said, and he meant it,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and the team bought in, and he would go get
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: guys like you know, Chauncey Gardner Johnson, you know he
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: would you know, he was drafted a guy like Aiden
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson playing lights out just like a nitty gritty worker.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You know, he brought it Aaron Glenn is a A G.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Was a decordinator for Yeah it was it, uh dB
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: coach for US and now DC over at Detroit.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Great dude, but he has that old school mentality. They
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: played and they're like, but he said something like, no,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: that's probably gonna work.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: No, he's seen that, and you know, I mean, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: think there's him to be said about that. You know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: it's it's you know, uh, you know, bringing bringing the
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: NFL back to a little bit of some of that
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: old school stuff, you know. I mean it's it's uh,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: you know, we got introduced to it as young players.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: We knew on a crazy level. You know. My my
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: rookie year was the last.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Shocky as y O G.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I like, and he was the last of the rock
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: stars that you were like mandout him.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, first it was two a day's still to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: PATA practice of the day training camps in New Orleans
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: with Seam Payton. I'll let you know what time it is.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: It was absolute hell. I was calling home like I
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: don't know if I could do this. I mean I was,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I mean because Shocky, I mean, first off, being his
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: rookie was like iconic almost because they just won a
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: super Bowl. He was the rock star. He he was,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he was a rock star. I mean everybody wanted to
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: be around him. I remember just leaving a bar and
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: running down the street because people are chasing us down
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: the street like like rock stars, and it was it
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: was so cool to experience. But also Shaki is hilarious
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: and like I remember one morning he was like he
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, big dog, Uh yes, it seems like
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: my basin be going out today. But I was like, what, bro,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: really go Bro, We're in stretch. This dude's back tightened
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: up just like you said. And it was like the
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: first brit is too, So I had to go with
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: the ones, twos, and threes. First time I was in
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: the one huddle like just didn't know what he was
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: talking about. And then we came back for that like
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: two or three o'clock practice in the dead of heat,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: another two hour practice, all me absolutely brutal.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Come get this work.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Shaki, who's in your tight end Rushmore?
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: If there was to be a tight End Rushmore, my
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Titan Rushmore, your tight end Rushmore.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: As far as like for my career or like complete like.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Complete, however you want to take that.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna say on who it influenced my
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: career the most. It was like the people had true
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: influence on my career. Obviously Jimmie Shockey, you know, I
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: mean I was his rookie, and then it would I
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: would definitely say Ben Watson. Ben Watson was a big
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: part of that. You know, just kind of how he was,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: you know, how kind of his approach to the game,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: and and and just how he operated. And then I was,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously blessed enough to play with Mercedes Lewis.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: You know, he's he's his hands like it's it's insane
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: what he's doing. And you know, I don't think he
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: gets even enough credit for it. It's like when years
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: it was eighteen or something disgusting, I don't know, something
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: crazy crazy. And he's in the I mean he's in
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: the trenches. You know, he's lost putting hands on them.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: He's not really a receiver tight end. The more East no, no,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and and uh, it's I mean it's just like unbelievable
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  Speaker 3: to see. I mean truly truly unbelievable to see. Man.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: You know, those are the guys that kind of had
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: the biggest influence on my career. Obviously, I ob would
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: say Dave Thomas. A lot of people don't know who
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: he is, but he's the one who actually taught me
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: the like.
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  Speaker 2: Mental University of Texas.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, won a national championship, won a Super Bowl, but
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: he's the one who taught me the mental aspect of
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: the game, as far as understanding coverage, understanding all these things.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: And then Shaky taught me the attitude. You know. I
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: remember something happened. There was like a drop in practice,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and Shaky ran up to me and he said some
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: other words. I'm not gonna say the podcast, but he
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: basically boiled it down to you're from the U, and
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: we don't walk around and do it like that. He said,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: we hold ourselves to a higher standard. And from that
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: day on, yes, sir, oh yeah, no, no, no, I just cared.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I carried myself like I was untouchable. And
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  Speaker 3: sure enough, I think it translated to the field.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, we'll take that.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping in, you know, mister pro bowler,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: mister allpro, mister sixty thousand freaking feet in the air,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: flying planes, helicopters now wanting to roll across the ocean's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: nautical miles being added on.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: To the experiences.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much, not only for the tight
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: end that you are, but just like the overall phenomenal
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: person that you are and and everything that you know
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: that you've done over your career does it will probably
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: never get overlooked because you're a Saints Hall of Famer.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: You know, your your character has spoken so much volumes
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  Speaker 1: by even coming back, and if this is it finishing
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: your career with the Saints, you know, it's always black
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and gold forever.
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  Speaker 2: But just it's I'm a Jimmy Graham fan, you know.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Just I'm a big Jimmy g guy.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And it's not Garoppolo, It's Jimmy Graham. It's him, him,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. If you will, you know, so, I appreciate
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: you tapping out, tapping in with me off the Edge podcast.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: So there you have it. It's a round. I just
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  Speaker 2: want to say a huge thank you to all my
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: awesome listeners for rocking with me.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a whole locker room full of my favorite
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: interviews from season.
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• 50:05
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  Speaker 2: Till next time, I'm out.