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Mac & Bone Show - Dowell Loggains Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We got to talk a little college football. It is
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  Speaker 1: week zero, Happy week zero to those that celebrate. And
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: in week one, our next guest, he will beget his
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  Speaker 1: season will be getting underway as his app State Mountaineers
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  Speaker 1: host Maine, and then after that it's at ECU home against.
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte and at NC State.
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  Speaker 1: Is going to be a really interesting first month of
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  Speaker 1: the season for our next guest and his Mountaineers. He's
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  Speaker 1: app State head coach Dal Loggins and he joins us
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  Speaker 1: here on the Mack.
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  Speaker 2: And Bone Show. Coach, how you doing, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited. Just finished a big scrimmage on Saturday and
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  Speaker 3: we're cleaning up the tape. So I popped out of
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  Speaker 3: a special teams meeting that come top of w all.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: We appreciate your time always, coach, from the sprit from
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  Speaker 4: the spring till now. Where do you think your team
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  Speaker 4: has improved the most over the course of faull cam already?
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  Speaker 3: Well? Number one, it's starks with not having a transfer
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  Speaker 3: portal in May. You know, I love that three starters
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  Speaker 3: last May and man, it's the agency fact. It's like
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  Speaker 3: in a transfer a portal world where two of them
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  Speaker 3: you are Asian and dog years and college football is
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  Speaker 3: hard enough, but uh, you know, so now it's like
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  Speaker 3: you have a team and you can really start to
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  Speaker 3: work on your culture of your team and if you
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  Speaker 3: guys know, like that's a huge part of half, Like
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  Speaker 3: we have a distinct, proud culture. And for us to
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  Speaker 3: be able to know who our team is in January
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  Speaker 3: was a really big deal for us, so we could
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  Speaker 3: actually start we're doing stuff with team building, building connection
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  Speaker 3: and those things. I think our team got a lot faster,
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  Speaker 3: we got a lot more experienced. I'm excited about the
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  Speaker 3: roster we've built. But man, what a what a blessing
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  Speaker 3: and a relief just to know who those guys are
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  Speaker 3: and uh, after springball who you had and you weren't
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  Speaker 3: worried so much. Actually you're so worried about the depth chart.
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  Speaker 3: If if you set a depth chart, if you went ones,
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  Speaker 3: twos and threes, just someone not gonna like for their role,
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  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you go leave and look
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  Speaker 3: for something else. And now just be able to play
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  Speaker 3: those guys and practice the way you want to and
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  Speaker 3: use the depth charts also a motivation tool. It felt
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  Speaker 3: like coaching again.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool, that's cool. You're you're a lot of coaches
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  Speaker 1: have shared that sentiment. The portals. The portal's rough, but
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  Speaker 1: at least don't take my players after spring practice. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think y'all gotta love that.
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  Speaker 4: You might get our money edwards back at this point
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  Speaker 4: here before the season starts.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Hackett was wasn't our scrimmage on Saturday. I said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: get I guarantee you got some we could appeal to
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  Speaker 3: somebody if I'm gonna give you one more year. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're letting guys sign pro contracts and come back.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And you know Hackett didn't, he didn't read shirt. He's
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  Speaker 3: probably got a year legter.
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  Speaker 4: You go find a local judge. Find the James are
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  Speaker 4: judging Boon.
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  Speaker 1: There's got to coach the quarterbacks that you guys like,
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  Speaker 1: Like just about every program out there, a lot of turnover.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're telling us, hey, I think we got faster.
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  Speaker 1: I think we got better in a lot of areas.
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  Speaker 1: The quarterback position is Good's going to be different. I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of app fans have texted us about
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  Speaker 1: Malachi Singleton as as a quarterback that they're looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing. Is the job his How are your quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: shaping up here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Malachi was. He is our offensive team captain,
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  Speaker 3: voted by his teammates. We we announced three captains, we
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  Speaker 3: did offense, even special teams, and Maley's put himself in
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  Speaker 3: a really good, really good position to lead this football team.
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  Speaker 3: We are really excited about him, just what he's able
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  Speaker 3: to bring. We wanted to I told you we wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get faster. We also wanted to have quarterbacks stick
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  Speaker 3: at one anthrow. We wanted more dual threat. Uh. When
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  Speaker 3: you have pro style pastors, you have to be so
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  Speaker 3: good in the offensive line. There's less room for error.
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  Speaker 3: We call him a racers the ability to erace things
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  Speaker 3: and and cover other other people's mistakes up. So we're
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  Speaker 3: really excited about where Malachi is. That is that we
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  Speaker 3: also have Henry hid here, who is you know, transferred
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  Speaker 3: from UCLA, Matt Hasselback's son who I coached back in
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee a long time ago. And he another guy that
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  Speaker 3: can run see the top of little cross player in
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  Speaker 3: the country. So we're excited about both those guys. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: if we're gonna go out and play today, malec I
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  Speaker 3: would go out number one for sure, and but they may.
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  Speaker 3: They have made our team better. They've increased our team speed,
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  Speaker 3: and they brought leadership that that we needed to in
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  Speaker 3: our program.
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  Speaker 4: Coach Lewis at running back six hundred yards last year,
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  Speaker 4: How excited are you for the next step for him
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  Speaker 4: in this offense? And I got to tell you, coach,
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  Speaker 4: it may not mean a lot to you, but I
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  Speaker 4: used him in the in the video game College Football
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  Speaker 4: twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's got something going on here.
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  Speaker 3: Man. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I that you and my son are the same. I
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of advice from my son based on
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  Speaker 3: the game. But then, of y'all have no clue how
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  Speaker 3: much our players whine about their rankings as well, Coach Man,
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  Speaker 3: I had nothing to do with their like why is
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  Speaker 3: my Why is my I speed eighty two? Man run
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  Speaker 3: better than that? But now Jakari's coming off a really
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  Speaker 3: good season where he's split time last year, he's done
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  Speaker 3: a nice job, like you talking about a kid that's
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  Speaker 3: grown up a ton. Sunday morning, I'm getting ready for
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  Speaker 3: church and I get a text He's like, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: went on a sussessment of how I'm practicing, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I'm proud of him how much he's grown up.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard when you were coming from a you're a
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  Speaker 3: freshman from South Florida, you come to Boone, North Carolina,
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  Speaker 3: You've got to grow up best and it's a different environment,
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  Speaker 3: a different culture. But coming off a great year is
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  Speaker 3: you know the thing we got to continue to work
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  Speaker 3: with him is he we're getting him to the third level,
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  Speaker 3: and we got into the third bubble a lot last year.
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  Speaker 3: His emphasis has been, hey, make that unblocked hitter, makes
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  Speaker 3: that last safety miss, and let's go have a great
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  Speaker 3: year because he is a really good player. He's got
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  Speaker 3: natural instincts and vision, contact bounds, he's compacted. He is
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  Speaker 3: a good football player that we're really excited about.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking with dal Logan Zapp State head coach. They
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  Speaker 1: are now inside two weeks from their opener on September
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  Speaker 1: fifth at home against Maine. Coach, you guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm we're getting ready for this interview, so I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at the portal, you know, situation for you guys since
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  Speaker 1: we last talked to you last season, y'all lost. The
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  Speaker 1: count I'm seeing on twenty four to seven sports is
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  Speaker 1: forty two of them eight to the Power for Schools.
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  Speaker 1: But then you also are ranked by twenty four to
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  Speaker 1: seven second in the Sunbelt. For this year's incoming portal,
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  Speaker 1: you brought thirty four three stars in. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: ton of guys out, a ton of guys in. How
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  Speaker 1: how did you talked about a little bit earlier and said,
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  Speaker 1: team speed, tell me about what you lost and what
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  Speaker 1: you gained?
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  Speaker 2: Like is are are?
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  Speaker 1: Are we all going to see it as a net
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  Speaker 1: positive by the time it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that I'm really excited about this football team,
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  Speaker 3: and and you know, I'm excited for the guys that
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  Speaker 3: earned opportunities other places. That's the world we're in. Still
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  Speaker 3: have great relationships with those guys. And we talked about
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  Speaker 3: when you come here in recruiting lifelong. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: want to have life changing experiences, not life changing money.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have life changing money in Boo, North Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: But we can offer something really special here. And we
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  Speaker 3: have tradition, and we have the best fan base in
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  Speaker 3: our conference, and we have the best facilities, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: in our conference. So we have a lot to sell
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  Speaker 3: here and we've got great people. I think that we
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  Speaker 3: are a lot better football team right now than we
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  Speaker 3: were this time last year. I'm excited to coach this
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  Speaker 3: football team. Where we went out and went got in
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal and the high school rankings which we
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  Speaker 3: had the number one class, and the history of the
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  Speaker 3: Sun Belt not just have stayed, the history of the
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  Speaker 3: Sun Belt rated by multiple recruiting services. We wanted to
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  Speaker 3: get faster. We want to get team teams. We needed
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  Speaker 3: to improve our team speed. We needed to get experience.
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  Speaker 3: We wanted guys that has been captains before, so we
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  Speaker 3: went to a deep dive. So there's not a whole
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  Speaker 3: lot to do in boone North line of outse. I'd
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  Speaker 3: go to class in football. So we want the guys
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  Speaker 3: that football was really really important to And if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to class, that means you're a good student, you're
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  Speaker 3: a good person, you're and we want the people that
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  Speaker 3: were into the team and they had a natural kip
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  Speaker 3: on their shoulder because we went back and out. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you get here and you know about app and then
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  Speaker 3: after the first year you gotta self reflect and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: where can I get better? What did I do good?
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  Speaker 3: What did I do bad? Of course, as a coach
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, did I do anything good? Like this
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  Speaker 3: is it's got to improve. And so did a deep
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  Speaker 3: dive on like, hey, what wins here? And it was
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  Speaker 3: speed and it was a chip on your shoulder and
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  Speaker 3: edge to you. So when we went out recruiting these guys,
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  Speaker 3: I made I was really hard on our assistant coach
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  Speaker 3: and say, hey, make sure we get people that have
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  Speaker 3: been through something really hard in their life, because if
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  Speaker 3: you can come, there are no great victories in life
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  Speaker 3: unless you overcome hard stuff. And then let's let's check
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  Speaker 3: these speed Let's check these track times. Let's make sure
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  Speaker 3: that that we get fast, we create that edge that's
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  Speaker 3: always made APPS special.
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  Speaker 4: Coach, how fun is it to wicked this edule for
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  Speaker 4: your program and your fan base? Two three to see
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  Speaker 4: three of the in state opponents in a row ECU Charlotte,
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  Speaker 4: NC State. A lot of work to do, But how
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  Speaker 4: big are those local games for you guys?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's huge. I think Apps they will
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  Speaker 3: always be a bus program we want to be. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's we can bust and get places and it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: chip away at our budget in that way, and to
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  Speaker 3: be able to stay in state for us, it helps
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  Speaker 3: recruiting a ton and so that that also you talk travel,
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  Speaker 3: you talk recruiting, you talk about kids being able to
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  Speaker 3: get their families there to road games. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: to sell for us that way, and we're really excited
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  Speaker 3: about the opportunity to compete and in this state and
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  Speaker 3: not leave the state for the first month of the schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Coach, we got a texture that's a die hard APP
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  Speaker 1: guy and he and he texted in and he's got
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  Speaker 1: one of the great text line names of our listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Chubbing a tub is his name. All right, He's a
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  Speaker 1: big he's a big ask question, he's a big out
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  Speaker 1: near fan, and he makes a great point about how
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  Speaker 1: he wants to see y'all get back defensively to what
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  Speaker 1: tradition you talk about what wins it out? I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you talk about grit. I'm sure great defenses is part
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  Speaker 1: of that. Right, Like it's been five years since you know,
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  Speaker 1: last four years, twenty six points are more allowed. What
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  Speaker 1: can you tell APP fans that are like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to recognize an APP state
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  Speaker 1: defense again?
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  Speaker 2: What about this unit?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that you're right, and with a tub and the
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  Speaker 3: tub Yeah, there you go. The tub spot on all right,
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  Speaker 3: So it is it's it's when you start building that identity,
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  Speaker 3: like what do you want your team to look like?
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a team that plays great defense,
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  Speaker 3: that plays that makes the difference in special teams, that
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  Speaker 3: can run the ball and take care of the football,
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  Speaker 3: and that smart, tough, competitive spirit comes out all the time.
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  Speaker 3: And I think defense is played with team speed. But
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  Speaker 3: it's also the edge we talked about, Like I go back,
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  Speaker 3: you watch those upsets. You just go put on the tape.
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  Speaker 3: He just sit there, watch, Hey, how did they beat
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina? Well, it was a different world then, like
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  Speaker 3: there was no nil. And now that those players that
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  Speaker 3: we've beat South Carolina there were I think there were
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  Speaker 3: six draft picks. They've been playing for South Carolina now.
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  Speaker 3: So we had to develop these guys quickly understand how
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  Speaker 3: long we're going to have them for. But all of them.
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  Speaker 3: You go to Texas A and m that the South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina game, so many other closed ones, the Penn State, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: But you see this relentless effort and you see a
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  Speaker 3: team that it was always about the next play, that
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  Speaker 3: never gave up, that was going to fight you for
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  Speaker 3: sixty minutes and excited to compete any place, anywhere, And
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  Speaker 3: I think that goes into the mental makeup of the
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  Speaker 3: kids you recruit. I think we lost that a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I think we lost an edge here as we went
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  Speaker 3: to the transfer portal in the NIL world, and we
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  Speaker 3: worked very diligently to get that back because we want
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  Speaker 3: to put as a head coach, I'd get to be
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  Speaker 3: the head coach at freaking app State, Like, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that every fan that sits in that
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  Speaker 3: stadium that shows up and we have the best game
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  Speaker 3: to adms in our conference. But I want them to
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  Speaker 3: be proud because they say our style plays back and
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  Speaker 3: we've lost it, and we didn't. We didn't. We haven't
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  Speaker 3: had it for a period of time. But and it
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  Speaker 3: starts with a relentless aggressive defense that I think is
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  Speaker 3: the key to any team sport. So tub of the
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  Speaker 3: Tubs spot on. We worked diligently to uh make our guys,
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  Speaker 3: our fans happy, and I think we've got to go
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  Speaker 3: in the right direction that way.
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  Speaker 4: Coach, if you mentioned his name three times, he's going
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  Speaker 4: to ask for free ticket. So you might want to
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  Speaker 4: just stop with Tubble the time.
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  Speaker 1: He might want to call he might want to call
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  Speaker 1: the defense coach for myself.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I got for myself. I can't give any other.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair. Uh well, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you, coach, and I will say this, what what
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  Speaker 1: my man t Bone here did not tell you about
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  Speaker 1: playing the video game with app stage?
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  Speaker 2: Are you doing this?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: We were done. We do a good job. Coach, all right,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to do a much better job than he did.
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  Speaker 4: I was asked politely to no longer coach the team
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  Speaker 4: after the video game.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you got fired from the game.
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  Speaker 2: Something that happened. There was a coach, coach, coach.
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  Speaker 4: There was a glitch and I threw thirteen picks in
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  Speaker 4: three games, and I couldn't stop throwing picks, and I
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  Speaker 4: had to I had to step away from the program
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  Speaker 4: for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I hate saying that, but like I had a glitch
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  Speaker 3: last year of red zone interceptions too that you just
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  Speaker 3: gave me a bad five. So yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: That's why Lewis had so many yards. Coach.
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  Speaker 4: I stopped throwing the ball after a while because running
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  Speaker 4: into a thousands like a good adjustment.
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  Speaker 2: A good adjustment.
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  Speaker 3: We saw our identity the same way. Great defense, great
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  Speaker 3: special teams, run the ball, take care of the ball,
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  Speaker 3: and take care of the football.
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  Speaker 2: I love it there, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we want to see, and that's what app
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  Speaker 1: fans want to see. Thank you for coming on, coach.
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  Speaker 1: Best of luck this year. We appreciate you, appreciate you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Have a good one.