Latest / The Breakfast Club / Roland Martin Talks Black Voter Turnouts, Kanye West, The N Word, Affirmative Action & More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning, breakfast club morning.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Everybody is t j Envy Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy.
- 0:09Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 0:11Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, indeed, walking here the same day,
- 0:14Speaker 1: same time, same way. I walk in here every day
- 0:16Speaker 1: saying fuck them Cowboys. Well he said hello first, okay,
- 0:20Speaker 1: but but that was right after. That was right after
- 0:24Speaker 1: me hit the nerd to pull that jacket out, just
- 0:26Speaker 1: that to show you just have to let you see
- 0:28Speaker 1: the star. That's all. Yeah, it's all right, but don't
- 0:30Speaker 1: worry about it. Y'all gonna screw the hell up and
- 0:31Speaker 1: playoffs again again, another first round loss, again, defense win
- 0:37Speaker 1: the championships, rolling, Yeah, fuck the Cowboys. I'm from Houston, exactly.
- 0:41Speaker 1: I came out the womb saying that. So you're an
- 0:43Speaker 1: Oilers fan, Texas fan. You ain't even near Texas? How
- 0:45Speaker 1: to hell you Cowboys fan? Because where are you from?
- 0:48Speaker 1: South Carolina? What's the next date to y'all? North Carolina?
- 0:51Speaker 1: Georgia Temba football team? Yeah, but you know, growing up
- 0:57Speaker 1: you had the Falcons. Nah, my daddy was a Cowboy fan.
- 1:00Speaker 1: My daddy, my granddaddy is somethingbody that that star. You know,
- 1:03Speaker 1: the whole lifestyle with the cocaine and the you know,
- 1:06Speaker 1: the afro as. You had a wallpostal time in Hollywood Henderson,
- 1:13Speaker 1: my daddy did. Yeah, and then later Nate Newton selling we,
- 1:18Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, all these guys. Absolutely, I brought that Michaelving
- 1:21Speaker 1: drug store. Huh. I broke that short really? Oh hell yeah,
- 1:24Speaker 1: I didn't know the story that needs to be broken.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I thought everybody knew since down I'm talking about the
- 1:28Speaker 1: one we got bust in the hotel room. Oh I
- 1:30Speaker 1: don't remember that one. You don't remember that one led
- 1:33Speaker 1: to him walking down the hallway in the fur coat
- 1:35Speaker 1: and the show. Oh yeah, the same damn star, the
- 1:39Speaker 1: same damn start, Michael telling Michael hell to get busted.
- 1:43Speaker 1: I told Michael. I told Michaels that, Michael, you were.
- 1:46Speaker 1: I said, Michael, before you got cleaned up, you were
- 1:47Speaker 1: fantastic for my career, I said, I won numerous awards
- 1:51Speaker 1: off your Wow. Oh yeah, he is a good redemption
- 1:54Speaker 1: story that people don't talk about enohing. Yeah he is,
- 1:56Speaker 1: he is, but that but still that is still legendary.
- 2:00Speaker 1: And he walked, he came down the hallway in the
- 2:02Speaker 1: black first coach shades. I was like, I know, his
- 2:06Speaker 1: ass is not walking to the grand jury dress like
- 2:08Speaker 1: this here as soon as he walked in, like diet.
- 2:12Speaker 1: They didn't have to check any evidence. Didn't diet him.
- 2:14Speaker 1: But but you know, but that's what makes him so
- 2:16Speaker 1: popular and culture. Though it be those moments like that, No,
- 2:19Speaker 1: it probably was him catching passes. I think that was rebellion. Man.
- 2:23Speaker 1: You know that. That's why they loved the Bobby Browns
- 2:25Speaker 1: of the world. That's why they loved the Tysons. People
- 2:28Speaker 1: love rebells. It's a bunch of folks who rebellious, who
- 2:30Speaker 1: didn't catch passes. Don'tbody know them? Yeah, he didn't get
- 2:33Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame because exactly, first and foremost,
- 2:37Speaker 1: you gotta be great, and you got rebellions and stupid
- 2:41Speaker 1: and broke. Yeah so Michael, Yeah, so he but you
- 2:44Speaker 1: know he played he But but I appreciate the y'all
- 2:47Speaker 1: ain want nothing in the last generation, nothing Texans, all
- 2:53Speaker 1: the oilers. Guess what Junior asking on my couch was
- 2:57Speaker 1: comfort sitting over here. Indeed, indeed, how the browning of
- 3:03Speaker 1: Americans making white folks lose their minds? Look at that
- 3:07Speaker 1: look at that cover. Look at that photo that's when
- 3:10Speaker 1: January was six. He got his white guy's arms outstretched.
- 3:12Speaker 1: He's basically saying all this is ours. And that really
- 3:16Speaker 1: does explain the reality of white American the history of
- 3:20Speaker 1: this country. This country was formed to create it for them. Uh.
- 3:24Speaker 1: And so what they're freaking out about is where we're
- 3:27Speaker 1: now moving twenty forty three nation becoming a majority of
- 3:30Speaker 1: people of color. Uh. And it shows how their reaction
- 3:34Speaker 1: January six, remember Donald Trump targeted four cities. He kept
- 3:37Speaker 1: talking about Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit. Uh. And so the
- 3:42Speaker 1: anger was that black turnout, the attacks on black turnout,
- 3:47Speaker 1: gutting of Section four of the Voting Rights Act, gutting
- 3:50Speaker 1: of section two. Uh. This whole desire is this anger
- 3:54Speaker 1: at what's going on, because it's all it comes out
- 3:56Speaker 1: of money and power. Uh. And that's what it boils
- 3:59Speaker 1: down to. And so they don't want to give any
- 4:01Speaker 1: of that up. And if you look at the history
- 4:02Speaker 1: of America, every period of black success has always been
- 4:07Speaker 1: followed by white backlash from the beginning. You I mean
- 4:11Speaker 1: take the thing back to Civil War, reconstruction, Jim Crow,
- 4:15Speaker 1: every period, and the anxiety is always are you gonna
- 4:18Speaker 1: lose our jobs. Are they're gonna take our women, You're
- 4:21Speaker 1: gonna lose our money. I mean, that's that. This is
- 4:23Speaker 1: in a constant deal. Even during during the civil rights movement.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Remember you're the Civil Rights Act to sixty four Voters
- 4:29Speaker 1: Act of sixty five, but they feel it bustered Republicans
- 4:31Speaker 1: and Democrats, the Fair House and Act. They were like,
- 4:33Speaker 1: all right, we'll let y'all vote, but y'all can't live
- 4:36Speaker 1: with us. That has been a constant thing and we're
- 4:39Speaker 1: still seeing it. And this is not a white conservative thing.
- 4:42Speaker 1: It's some white Democrats and progressives who also don't want
- 4:46Speaker 1: us to be to be a part of this economic
- 4:50Speaker 1: having that economic power and and having that h that influence.
- 4:54Speaker 1: But because we've now changed with voting, we now get
- 4:57Speaker 1: our say so and they're struggling with that. And Donald
- 5:00Speaker 1: Trump was not the beginning of that. This is gonna
- 5:03Speaker 1: be a continuation, I guarantee you over the next fifty
- 5:05Speaker 1: plus years. The media person, what do you think about
- 5:08Speaker 1: Donald Trumps suing CNN? Okay, he sues a whole batch
- 5:12Speaker 1: of people and loses. That's his thing. His things to
- 5:15Speaker 1: cause may him, but he don't want their positions do
- 5:18Speaker 1: you think he don't. He don't want to have to
- 5:20Speaker 1: sit across. Look how long he fought Latitia James and
- 5:23Speaker 1: then they said four hundred times, I'll play the fifth.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Do you think he has any type of legs to
- 5:28Speaker 1: stand on with that with because he lies, he laughs
- 5:32Speaker 1: about lies. I think he does. How so I don't
- 5:34Speaker 1: think he'll win, but I think he does sympically because
- 5:36Speaker 1: what he's trying to paint CNN as is a news
- 5:38Speaker 1: network that only paints, that only shows one side of him,
- 5:41Speaker 1: that only shows one narrative, the liar. Sure, but that's
- 5:45Speaker 1: what he said. He said, they never say anything positive.
- 5:48Speaker 1: That's a lie. That's what he says. He lies, and
- 5:53Speaker 1: don't mean when people when people are running the montage,
- 5:57Speaker 1: it's just CNN saying a bunch of negative stuff about
- 5:59Speaker 1: because he lies. So they're helping. They're not helping his
- 6:02Speaker 1: case if he's saying that, they don't ever say anything
- 6:04Speaker 1: positive about so you're saying that's literally so you're saying,
- 6:08Speaker 1: see it and says positive things about him. They hired
- 6:10Speaker 1: Kaylee MCKININNY. They hired people who came to his defense.
- 6:15Speaker 1: He is a lie. The lawsuit is a lie. Yes.
- 6:18Speaker 1: So the bottom line is they're not helping him. He lied,
- 6:22Speaker 1: but they are helping him lies about they're helping When
- 6:24Speaker 1: people play the montage and say, well, listen to what
- 6:28Speaker 1: he said, he's basically telling you this is all they
- 6:31Speaker 1: do is paint me. Is now they're not. If you lie,
- 6:34Speaker 1: okay every time, then they gonna run you lie. That's
- 6:39Speaker 1: like a woman saying, uh, dude saying I told truth
- 6:43Speaker 1: one time. Yeah, but you've been a hole. I mean
- 6:46Speaker 1: you can't go I said some truth one time and
- 6:50Speaker 1: then go baby, while you calling me a lie because
- 6:52Speaker 1: you're a liar. But the best way to make him
- 6:54Speaker 1: be a liar is the show. No we do when
- 6:56Speaker 1: he does do something, I guess good, we do talk
- 6:58Speaker 1: about it. They do? They have I done that because
- 7:04Speaker 1: because Trump is saying, they don't ever say anything positive
- 7:06Speaker 1: about him. If the basis of the lawsuit, Charlemagne, okay, Charlemagne,
- 7:09Speaker 1: you literally are trying to provide some common sense to
- 7:14Speaker 1: an uncommon lie, there is no there's no common sense.
- 7:19Speaker 1: They if they've hired people on the air who have
- 7:22Speaker 1: defended him, is that positive? Yes, Okay, they've hired him.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Kaylee mcnanny was an airhead. She was anti Trump and
- 7:31Speaker 1: then she flipped. She later became his press secretary. So
- 7:34Speaker 1: his whole deal is everything he does his lie. He
- 7:37Speaker 1: is whole mantra of fake news. The whole point is,
- 7:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it out there and my thought is
- 7:43Speaker 1: gonna believe that anything you say is a lie. So
- 7:45Speaker 1: even when you tell the truth, then it's a lie.
- 7:48Speaker 1: His whole deal about the big lie about the election.
- 7:51Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. His whole goal is to
- 7:54Speaker 1: cause the centric it's called disruption. And now what has
- 7:57Speaker 1: happened again part of white lie, white fear. All of
- 8:01Speaker 1: these individuals, they're not running for office, people running for
- 8:04Speaker 1: attorney general, secretary of state, governor, they're not running for
- 8:08Speaker 1: boards of elections. They have taken the lie and they
- 8:12Speaker 1: not have weaponized it, and they now want to take
- 8:15Speaker 1: over voting apparatus in numerous states. And so the lie
- 8:19Speaker 1: has now been weaponized to the point is now expanded.
- 8:22Speaker 1: You literally have hundreds of candidates on the ballot in November,
- 8:27Speaker 1: who a lie with him? Lyon asked Jenny Thomas, okay, clarens.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Thomas's don't mess with my Jenny okay. Went before the
- 8:35Speaker 1: January as his committee, and she said the election was
- 8:38Speaker 1: rigged lyon. So he is a liar. He's a flat
- 8:42Speaker 1: out liar, and he can go to hell. Question do
- 8:45Speaker 1: you think do you think that's just the risk you
- 8:47Speaker 1: run when you have like opinion based platforms, Like sometimes
- 8:50Speaker 1: people might hit you with a defamation suit or a
- 8:53Speaker 1: slant the suit for first of all, defamation and slander.
- 8:57Speaker 1: There's a high legal standard for public officials. Yeah, okay,
- 9:01Speaker 1: you have that, But when you're operating on truth, then
- 9:05Speaker 1: that's the piece. Look, I got Republicans who don't want
- 9:07Speaker 1: to come to my show because I don't let them lie,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and so the piece so and that's why I get
- 9:11Speaker 1: upset when I watched a lot of these shows and
- 9:14Speaker 1: folks lie. So for instance, when sorry as Bill Maher
- 9:18Speaker 1: allowed that woman the other day to lie on Kamala
- 9:20Speaker 1: Harris and then he didn't correct her when she talked about, oh,
- 9:24Speaker 1: he puts in all these men, she sent all these
- 9:26Speaker 1: men and women to prison for weed uh and and
- 9:30Speaker 1: breakfast club. And then Bill Maher sitting there with his
- 9:33Speaker 1: pothead sell, don't say a word. I don't let folks
- 9:36Speaker 1: lie because when you when someone lies, if they're listening,
- 9:40Speaker 1: to this show and a lie is told and you
- 9:43Speaker 1: say nothing for me, the public goals, well, h Angela
- 9:48Speaker 1: NV and Charlotte didn't say nothing, so what they said
- 9:50Speaker 1: must have been true. No, well no, no, what he
- 9:54Speaker 1: did was why why he didn't didn't correct him? And
- 9:57Speaker 1: I was like Van van Sure said, wait a minute,
- 10:00Speaker 1: what you just said is a flat out lie. You
- 10:02Speaker 1: don't let lies stand, and so that's why, and I
- 10:06Speaker 1: don't tell them. I'll let you finish. What you're not
- 10:08Speaker 1: gonna do is sit here and lie, and I just
- 10:11Speaker 1: sit there and just nod and let you continue. Because
- 10:14Speaker 1: the public needs to have enough faith in us that
- 10:17Speaker 1: we have enough information and the moment you lie, we say,
- 10:20Speaker 1: way to stop, that's not true, or if you gotta
- 10:22Speaker 1: prove that, you're not just gonna throw something out there.
- 10:25Speaker 1: And so that's how that's why this microphone cameras are important,
- 10:29Speaker 1: because we have to we have to have so much
- 10:32Speaker 1: trust in it and have and have care with it
- 10:35Speaker 1: that we refuse to let anybody lie in our face.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Because the audience goes, well, that must be true. So
- 10:40Speaker 1: they now run with that lie, and now it's harder
- 10:44Speaker 1: to bring it back in as supposed to say stop.
- 10:47Speaker 1: What you just said is simply incorrect. But I need
- 10:49Speaker 1: you give us some facts now because I know people
- 10:51Speaker 1: will see this and they'll be like, well, Kamala Harris
- 10:52Speaker 1: did like a bunch of a whole bunch of people
- 10:54Speaker 1: before weed in California. Well, first of all, if you
- 10:56Speaker 1: actually I have actually brought on a brother who went
- 10:58Speaker 1: through the whole record, the number of prosecutions in San
- 11:02Speaker 1: Francisco decline from the previous DA when she became DA two,
- 11:07Speaker 1: they created altern to programs for individuals who had U
- 11:11Speaker 1: who arrested for weed. Second of all, the number of
- 11:15Speaker 1: people in California when the prison there was one went down.
- 11:19Speaker 1: So again, when people say, well, just what you said,
- 11:23Speaker 1: she like a whole lot of people? Up? How many?
- 11:25Speaker 1: M no, how many? No, no, no no, but you just
- 11:29Speaker 1: said you just said she liked a lot of people.
- 11:31Speaker 1: How many? Oh, I didn't say that. I was quote
- 11:33Speaker 1: quoting No no, no no, no, no, no no no. You
- 11:35Speaker 1: quoted folks who did not have accurate information. So even
- 11:41Speaker 1: whatso even so even that's no, no no no no no
- 11:44Speaker 1: no no no no no, he's it. Though, So even
- 11:46Speaker 1: when we say, some people say, I don't even reference
- 11:51Speaker 1: lies because what I'm now doing is I'm now weaponizing
- 11:56Speaker 1: the lie. So even even the corrected you don't reference it,
- 11:59Speaker 1: even the corre you don't reference. No, no no, no, it's
- 12:01Speaker 1: not a question to correct. What I'm not gonna do
- 12:03Speaker 1: is some people say she locked up a lot of people.
- 12:05Speaker 1: First of all, let's break that statement. Now, what does
- 12:08Speaker 1: it even mean? What's a lot? Okay? If she locked
- 12:12Speaker 1: up five thousand, well, homedy were locked up before her?
- 12:16Speaker 1: Was it ten thousand? So ten thousand locked it before her?
- 12:19Speaker 1: And then she locked up five thousand, that's a decrease. Correct,
- 12:23Speaker 1: So again that has to be stated. Second of all,
- 12:26Speaker 1: does the Attorney general lock people up boards of local
- 12:30Speaker 1: DA's see? So again I don't just go some people.
- 12:35Speaker 1: I hate that phrase because because even stating that, it
- 12:39Speaker 1: has to be rooted in fact. And that's why I
- 12:42Speaker 1: don't simply do any that. Anytime I forced people to
- 12:46Speaker 1: have to defend a statement and say no, no, no,
- 12:49Speaker 1: you need to provide evidence to back that up. And
- 12:52Speaker 1: so so what if somebody says, well five thousand was
- 12:56Speaker 1: too many, Okay, But if it was ten thousand and
- 12:58Speaker 1: she came in and changed the policy and then it
- 13:01Speaker 1: was cut in half, do you not give credit to
- 13:04Speaker 1: cutting in and a half where I come from, you
- 13:06Speaker 1: actually do. It's called context. And the problem we have
- 13:10Speaker 1: especially with too many of these of them gossip blogs
- 13:13Speaker 1: and these people who are aggregators, who all they do
- 13:15Speaker 1: is repeat something else somebody else. Right, they don't have
- 13:17Speaker 1: any contexts. They provide no nuance, they provide no factual information.
- 13:22Speaker 1: They don't ask the second question too often, as Katherin
- 13:25Speaker 1: Hughes said, they ain't deeper than Mustart on a high
- 13:27Speaker 1: Dog said, making white folks lose their minds. Right, Yeah,
- 13:32Speaker 1: So now what does that mean for minorities and black people?
- 13:36Speaker 1: What should we be most worried about? Well, what it
- 13:39Speaker 1: means is, I don't want us in twenty forty three,
- 13:43Speaker 1: in twenty fifty to look like South Africa where black
- 13:48Speaker 1: folks who had the numbers got political power but still
- 13:53Speaker 1: were economically deprived or to pro educationally. And that's what
- 13:57Speaker 1: it boils down to. This is about power. Right now,
- 14:02Speaker 1: the Congression of Black Caucus has fifty eight members. Supreme
- 14:05Speaker 1: Court is hearing two cases where there should be the
- 14:07Speaker 1: additional seat in Louisiana and Alabama that will go up
- 14:11Speaker 1: to sixty. Governor Ronder Santus in Florida completely obliterates black
- 14:16Speaker 1: districts because they want to let more Republicans. That is
- 14:19Speaker 1: about power. When you're talking about elected office, that's power.
- 14:22Speaker 1: That's control over resources, that's allocating billions of dollars. That's
- 14:27Speaker 1: what this thing all boils down to. And so what
- 14:30Speaker 1: I'm talking about is we have to recognize what's going
- 14:33Speaker 1: on here. We gotta be in a situation where, Okay,
- 14:35Speaker 1: federal government right now five hundred and sixty billion dollars
- 14:38Speaker 1: to spent every single year on contracts. We get one
- 14:41Speaker 1: point six seven percent of those contracts. Well, if you
- 14:44Speaker 1: now have more representatives who now use the levels of power,
- 14:47Speaker 1: increases that. In the speech Saturday night before the coression
- 14:50Speaker 1: of Black Caucus Foundation, Biden talked about taking those numbers
- 14:53Speaker 1: up to I think it was one hundred billion dollars.
- 14:56Speaker 1: That's going to be a tall task going from nine
- 14:58Speaker 1: to one hundred and five years. But that's the whole point.
- 15:00Speaker 1: When you talk about this infrastructure bill that was passed
- 15:03Speaker 1: one point two trillion, more than six hundred billion, it's
- 15:05Speaker 1: gonna be for transportation. I moderated the panel with Secretary
- 15:09Speaker 1: of People Buddha judge talking about how are we going
- 15:12Speaker 1: to benefit from those contracts? Leveraging that is power. You
- 15:17Speaker 1: look at the fight that we have in the advertising
- 15:19Speaker 1: industry through twenty two billion spin every year, only point
- 15:22Speaker 1: five percent going to black owned media, and we've now
- 15:24Speaker 1: forced General Motors and Target and McDonald's and these numerous
- 15:28Speaker 1: companies to increase their black owned media spin. That's leveraging,
- 15:32Speaker 1: using your leverage and influence to drop economic power. And
- 15:36Speaker 1: so we can't we can't lose sight of how do
- 15:40Speaker 1: we take advantage of that? What you have folk here,
- 15:43Speaker 1: do not want us to be able to build, to
- 15:45Speaker 1: be able to grow, because when we're frozen out of
- 15:49Speaker 1: the economic piece, then guess what every other issue that
- 15:52Speaker 1: we care about, criminal justice, reform, mass incarceration, education, it
- 15:58Speaker 1: all ties back the money in America. If you ain't
- 16:00Speaker 1: having a money conversation, you're not having an American conversation.
- 16:05Speaker 1: That's what this bols down to. When even when you
- 16:07Speaker 1: say white folks have lost their mind, you know, history
- 16:09Speaker 1: shows us they never really had it. Sound right, well,
- 16:14Speaker 1: but but but but obviously you understand the phrase there
- 16:18Speaker 1: because he now is becoming real to you. Remember the
- 16:22Speaker 1: last election seventy one twenty twenty, seventy one to seventy
- 16:26Speaker 1: three percent of total turnout was white. Okay, So that
- 16:31Speaker 1: so people sit there and go, oh, without black folks
- 16:35Speaker 1: won this election. Okay, yes and no, but the bomb
- 16:39Speaker 1: line's just here. That means that African Americans Latino's agent
- 16:42Speaker 1: of Americans. All combined, we were about twenty eight total.
- 16:48Speaker 1: But you're now seeing that drop. You're now seeing how
- 16:51Speaker 1: the numbers are changing. So when you hear the great
- 16:53Speaker 1: replacement theory, okay, this fear they're replacing us, No, they're
- 16:57Speaker 1: replacing you white folks, y'all stop having babies, Y'll stop
- 17:00Speaker 1: having sex. That's what actually happened for the increase that
- 17:04Speaker 1: cause the white death rate caused the white the white
- 17:07Speaker 1: uh caused the white death rate increase, but also life
- 17:11Speaker 1: expectancy to actually drop as well. But COVID also caused
- 17:14Speaker 1: black man's life expectations to drop about three years. So
- 17:16Speaker 1: all these things are happening before us. The thing that
- 17:19Speaker 1: that they right now, I think it's about twelve states
- 17:22Speaker 1: the annual white death rate is higher than the white
- 17:25Speaker 1: birth rate. So they're angry about an increasing minority population.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yado ones who stops growing? How you mad at us
- 17:35Speaker 1: because you stopped having kids. And this has been going
- 17:37Speaker 1: on in Europe the last fifteen years. The reason you
- 17:40Speaker 1: had this this immigration back last in Europe is because
- 17:42Speaker 1: guess what, Italians, their numbers are dropping, the French, the Germans,
- 17:48Speaker 1: and so for for nations to continue to continue to
- 17:52Speaker 1: be strong, you literally have to replace people, meaning you
- 17:57Speaker 1: have to either birthmore people or you must have immigration
- 18:01Speaker 1: to be able to sustain a country economically. That's just
- 18:06Speaker 1: that's just simple math. And folks are hating that, but
- 18:09Speaker 1: they don't want to deal with that, and their reaction
- 18:12Speaker 1: to this is that's why we hear these phrases, we're
- 18:15Speaker 1: losing our way. But what does that mean? We're we're
- 18:19Speaker 1: losing our culture. Well, first of all, what's our culture?
- 18:23Speaker 1: We're losing what we know America to be? Well, what
- 18:28Speaker 1: does a what exactly is America to you? So that's
- 18:31Speaker 1: why the Kaethartic thing was so strong, because they were like,
- 18:34Speaker 1: how dare you? It's first responders, it's the flag, it's America,
- 18:38Speaker 1: And we're like, we kind of look at that a
- 18:40Speaker 1: little bit different from y'all. Since you brought up immigration,
- 18:43Speaker 1: can you talk about the governors in Texas and Florida
- 18:46Speaker 1: and the whole situation with the flying and busting migrants
- 18:50Speaker 1: to Martha's vineyards, pushing buttons of white fear. Here's a deal,
- 18:58Speaker 1: Texas is our native of Texas and I'm still raised
- 19:00Speaker 1: the vote there. Do you understand the Texas economy? You
- 19:05Speaker 1: take out Latinos and black people by Texas. Here's the
- 19:09Speaker 1: other crazy thing. Because of the last census, Texas picked
- 19:13Speaker 1: up several new congressional seats because of population. What fuels
- 19:19Speaker 1: that population growth? Latinos? What did they do? They basically,
- 19:24Speaker 1: they basically created three white Republican districts, one Latinos. I find,
- 19:28Speaker 1: what give you one? But the growth was driven by
- 19:31Speaker 1: Latino population. So what you have is you have Governor
- 19:35Speaker 1: Greg Abby Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick again pressing the buttons
- 19:39Speaker 1: of white fear, and these folks that run around, Oh
- 19:41Speaker 1: my god, we're losing our state. First of all, Right now,
- 19:45Speaker 1: majority of kids in public schools right now are black
- 19:49Speaker 1: and Latino. Now ask the question, who's controlling those economic levers,
- 19:53Speaker 1: who's controlling those dollars, who's controlling the curriculum, who's controlling
- 19:57Speaker 1: the hiring of teaching? So what's that's what you're seeing,
- 20:01Speaker 1: and so what Rhonda Santis is doing in Florida, what
- 20:04Speaker 1: Greg Abbot is doing in Texas, they are fueling that
- 20:08Speaker 1: white rage. Everything about critical race theory was about fueling
- 20:11Speaker 1: white rage, this anger against d EI, diversity, equity, inclusion.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Look at the reaction all these white conservatives had to
- 20:19Speaker 1: when Vice President Kamala Harris hit the other day, we're
- 20:21Speaker 1: going to ensure this equity when it comes to Hurricane
- 20:24Speaker 1: even she should have stood on that. I hated as
- 20:25Speaker 1: she backed up off of that. Right. What they should again,
- 20:27Speaker 1: what the White House should have said it is I'm sorry.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Here are examples of previous hurricanes and natural disasters. Report
- 20:35Speaker 1: has been done in The New York Times, been done
- 20:37Speaker 1: by other media outlets, pro publicating others showing how black
- 20:41Speaker 1: and brown communities were shorted out of dollars when it
- 20:46Speaker 1: came to Hurricane Relieve it is undeniable. But see again
- 20:50Speaker 1: what happens is and this is where liberals and progressive
- 20:53Speaker 1: really pissed me off because they don't know how to fight.
- 20:55Speaker 1: They get pushed back from conservatives and Fox News and
- 20:58Speaker 1: conservative radio, and they all take it and run with it,
- 21:01Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my God, they upset, tell him
- 21:04Speaker 1: go to hell and say hit him with the facts.
- 21:06Speaker 1: And see they're unwilling to challenge them. I like Mark Levin,
- 21:09Speaker 1: conservative radio talk show hosts. He was going off the
- 21:12Speaker 1: other day on me and Maya Wiley because when I
- 21:15Speaker 1: moderated a voting session at gregenal backcacause and he goes
- 21:19Speaker 1: Roland Martin, he's such a liberal, he will never invite
- 21:22Speaker 1: me on his show. What it was a brother who
- 21:25Speaker 1: was listening, who was texting me while I was live
- 21:27Speaker 1: on my show. What he said? I said that, what
- 21:31Speaker 1: he said? I invited his ass on the show right there,
- 21:35Speaker 1: didn't have my producer call when the show was over.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Then hit him the following Monday. He hain't hit back.
- 21:41Speaker 1: See they are used to throwing rocks, but they ain't
- 21:45Speaker 1: used to getting hit. The White House has to learn
- 21:48Speaker 1: how to hit, how to hit hard. Look, Chris christ
- 21:51Speaker 1: is still mad after I lit his ass up on
- 21:54Speaker 1: ABC this week. That was a year. I ain't been
- 21:56Speaker 1: invited back since, but I had been on in twenty
- 22:00Speaker 1: months when I went on there, and my whole deal
- 22:03Speaker 1: was when the topic came up, I'm gonna hit you,
- 22:06Speaker 1: and so we we we we can't be afraid. There
- 22:09Speaker 1: are people are like, well, I mean, you know, I
- 22:11Speaker 1: mean the title in your book is is provocative. I said, well, hey,
- 22:15Speaker 1: I said, Larry Elder put a book book out called
- 22:18Speaker 1: stupid Black Man. I said, and y'all at them, I'm
- 22:21Speaker 1: gonna call it like it is because it is white fear.
- 22:24Speaker 1: The studies show it. They are running around, Oh my god,
- 22:28Speaker 1: we're losing, We're gonna be losing resources. And Steady came
- 22:31Speaker 1: out twenty eighteen. This is laughing where white voters is.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, white voters were said they were
- 22:39Speaker 1: they were rebelling against welfare programs because they were losing
- 22:44Speaker 1: money and menards were gaining. You knew, it's more broke
- 22:49Speaker 1: as white people in America, absolute people. You know, who
- 22:54Speaker 1: gets more welfare? White people? Who gets more of medicated
- 22:58Speaker 1: white people? Who when you at cutting poverty, when the
- 23:01Speaker 1: numbers increase, who increases the highest? White people? But the
- 23:06Speaker 1: problem is media for more than fifty years has created
- 23:11Speaker 1: the picture that welfare as black black people. So in
- 23:17Speaker 1: their minds when they oh my goodness, they're coming up,
- 23:20Speaker 1: they're benefiting. In two thou what started this book in
- 23:24Speaker 1: two thousand and nine study was a pole. The question
- 23:27Speaker 1: was asked, this is around Obama's inauguration, are you optimistic
- 23:31Speaker 1: about the future of America for your children? Every group black,
- 23:34Speaker 1: Latino Asian majority said yes. Only one group was less
- 23:38Speaker 1: than the majority White Americans. September twenty sixteen, question was asked,
- 23:43Speaker 1: are you optimistically about the future of America economically for
- 23:45Speaker 1: the next ten years? Black people lowest wealth, highest optimism,
- 23:51Speaker 1: Latinos second, lowest wealth, highest optimism, White people highest wealth
- 23:57Speaker 1: by far, lowest optim And you gotta say, hold up,
- 24:01Speaker 1: how y'all got more money than anybody else. Do the
- 24:06Speaker 1: little optimism because they see that train coming, because their
- 24:11Speaker 1: children now have to compete. You got white men in
- 24:14Speaker 1: Hollywood right now. I mean, we can't get a new job. Oh,
- 24:17Speaker 1: the black people, we can't get a job. Oh I'm sorry.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Y'all are used to getting ninety five percent of the jobs.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Now it's you're getting eighty eight percent, and you're pissed
- 24:27Speaker 1: it went down seven. Look at the author, James Patterson.
- 24:30Speaker 1: I don't care about that grant, that million dollars he
- 24:32Speaker 1: just gave Howard University. Why did he give it because
- 24:34Speaker 1: previously he said it's tough now for white men to
- 24:37Speaker 1: get books published. Have y'all all seen the book publishing
- 24:43Speaker 1: world and how many white men got books published? And
- 24:46Speaker 1: even when you look at the New York Times, it's
- 24:47Speaker 1: like those listens so racially biased, like the top ten
- 24:50Speaker 1: would mostly be white people. So well, they so they're
- 24:53Speaker 1: running around now going oh my god, we're losing everything,
- 24:57Speaker 1: and you're going, how y'all got They literally are angry
- 25:02Speaker 1: because they're getting two and three and five percent less,
- 25:05Speaker 1: right because, like you said, that their son a job.
- 25:10Speaker 1: That's it right there. I remember in twenty sixteen morning
- 25:14Speaker 1: Joe was having this conversation and Joe Scarborough was talking
- 25:17Speaker 1: about how, you know, he understands, you know, how these
- 25:19Speaker 1: white men are feeling because that was his one white guy.
- 25:22Speaker 1: He said, you know, I wish was back like in
- 25:24Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, when when I got my job, I
- 25:27Speaker 1: can just pick the phone up and get my son
- 25:30Speaker 1: a job. And I remember Joe Scarborough made made this
- 25:33Speaker 1: comment about how the wages of black men increased of
- 25:37Speaker 1: what the wags of white men didn't, and I was like, what, Joe,
- 25:41Speaker 1: or would you like to go back and see what
- 25:46Speaker 1: the wags of black men were in the early seventies,
- 25:50Speaker 1: common sense tell you black folks were so low economically,
- 25:54Speaker 1: of course the numbers might increase because of Jim Crow.
- 25:57Speaker 1: See that's the thing I love. These people who want
- 25:59Speaker 1: to act like Jim Crow never existed. As as if
- 26:04Speaker 1: you didn't get your first wave of black people in
- 26:06Speaker 1: the media until the late nineteen sixties, early seventies, the
- 26:09Speaker 1: first wave of black people. I met the first brother
- 26:13Speaker 1: who ever worked at a bank in Louisiana, and he
- 26:17Speaker 1: got hired the year I was born. Damn bro But
- 26:22Speaker 1: but but so we're here. We are look keen because
- 26:25Speaker 1: assassinated in sixty eight, fifty four years ago. So when
- 26:28Speaker 1: you look at the growth of what happened with black people,
- 26:31Speaker 1: we really so you seventy seventy as the marker, really
- 26:34Speaker 1: because fair House an Act of sixty eight, a firm
- 26:36Speaker 1: of actual When Nixon comes in, you're only talking about
- 26:38Speaker 1: fifty two years that we've been technically free, fifty two years,
- 26:44Speaker 1: fifty two years where we've been able to actually get
- 26:47Speaker 1: government jobs, get corporate jobs. We're only on the second
- 26:53Speaker 1: generation of African Americans in corporate America. So we talk
- 26:58Speaker 1: about where we're going economically, we're not we're not talking
- 27:02Speaker 1: about you know, a hundred years. I'm fifty four in November,
- 27:08Speaker 1: which means I was born not fully free. My nieces
- 27:16Speaker 1: and nephews are the first generation of Martin's born technically
- 27:21Speaker 1: fully free. See, we've got to stop, you know, We're
- 27:26Speaker 1: gonna look at this thing a lot differently and understand
- 27:30Speaker 1: how this system has has so beaten us down and
- 27:34Speaker 1: how we have survived and fought against it and rebelled
- 27:38Speaker 1: against it. So why they're angry is because we now
- 27:43Speaker 1: are saying angela voice matters, End's voice matters, Charlemagne's voicesn't matter.
- 27:48Speaker 1: They now like damn they not on TV here, not
- 27:51Speaker 1: even start their own digital shows, start their own digital networks.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Because we now got a voice and was ticking them off.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Is were willing to use it? Question? You know, we
- 28:02Speaker 1: talk about freedom, and I wonder what we're doing with
- 28:04Speaker 1: that freedom? And you have the chapter to fight to
- 28:07Speaker 1: educate black minds. Absolutely, what is the best way for
- 28:10Speaker 1: us to educate our minds? No, because there's a lot
- 28:12Speaker 1: of information out there, but don't mean it's the correct information. Well,
- 28:14Speaker 1: first off, we have to we have to return back
- 28:19Speaker 1: to the further that existed um post slavery Um. There's
- 28:26Speaker 1: a book call of Education of Blacks in the South
- 28:29Speaker 1: from eighteen sixty to nineteen thirty five. Unbelievable book, uh,
- 28:33Speaker 1: And it talks about that period, talks about how these
- 28:36Speaker 1: white abolitionists came down from the South and they were like, Oh,
- 28:40Speaker 1: we're coming down to help these these freed slaves get educated.
- 28:45Speaker 1: They roll up there and they'd already started five hundred
- 28:48Speaker 1: of schools. They were like, Oh, we weren't waiting on y'all.
- 28:50Speaker 1: These free slaves were there. He lays out in the book.
- 28:54Speaker 1: He lays out in the book that of black children
- 28:59Speaker 1: in Memphis were in school, only forty one percent of
- 29:02Speaker 1: white kids in DC were in school. So that was
- 29:04Speaker 1: a fervor, that was a That's why you had generations
- 29:07Speaker 1: of black people who had second and third grade educationally like, look,
- 29:10Speaker 1: but they sent twelve and fourteen kids through college. And
- 29:12Speaker 1: so that fervor has to return because what that does
- 29:16Speaker 1: is that absolutely equips you for what you're about to face. Now.
- 29:20Speaker 1: When you do that, you now have to pair that
- 29:22Speaker 1: what's happening economically. What we have to do also is
- 29:25Speaker 1: begin with education, began to teach our children not to
- 29:33Speaker 1: live by white validation, yes, not be a by white validation. Folks.
- 29:40Speaker 1: I had folks who came to me and they said,
- 29:42Speaker 1: when I have the TV one show, hey man, we're
- 29:43Speaker 1: gonna get you a show, bro, I'm on five days
- 29:48Speaker 1: a week. No, no, no, no no, no, I mean a
- 29:50Speaker 1: real show like CNN, MSNBC. I said, do you know
- 29:57Speaker 1: that when Brian Williams come to incomes to DC, he says,
- 30:00Speaker 1: in the same chair. I said, brother, like, what do
- 30:02Speaker 1: you mean? I said, Oh, you didn't realize. We contract
- 30:05Speaker 1: the studio out with NBC News Channel. We use the
- 30:09Speaker 1: same camera, same set, same walls, same fiber optics, same
- 30:12Speaker 1: control room. I said, but you don't think it's real.
- 30:15Speaker 1: That's white validation. And so part of that education is
- 30:19Speaker 1: affirming who we are, who we are now. The King said,
- 30:23Speaker 1: he said, we have to sign our own emancipation proclamation.
- 30:27Speaker 1: He said that we can't allow someone else to affirm us.
- 30:31Speaker 1: That's a part of the education piece. And so that
- 30:34Speaker 1: means when we are creating our own we cannot. I
- 30:38Speaker 1: had I would tell anybody who worked with me when
- 30:40Speaker 1: I was a TV one if I hear you say, well,
- 30:42Speaker 1: you know we black, You're not gonna work here, because
- 30:46Speaker 1: that phrase alone behind it means we're not as good,
- 30:52Speaker 1: we're second class. And so that's a part of the
- 30:55Speaker 1: education piece as well. Now you have to marry the
- 30:58Speaker 1: economic piece when you begin to talk about how do
- 31:01Speaker 1: we fight for equity in all of these all of
- 31:05Speaker 1: these systems, and that means how do you leverage it? So,
- 31:09Speaker 1: if you're a company out there, if you're a car company,
- 31:12Speaker 1: here's my first question. What's your black market share? Your
- 31:17Speaker 1: black market share is twelve fourteen, fifteen percent? People go,
- 31:22Speaker 1: we got a boycott? No, no, no, here's the whole deal.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Because I had a meeting with one car company. I said,
- 31:28Speaker 1: do y'all understand I don't need to take you from
- 31:31Speaker 1: fifteen to five. If I take you from fifteen to fourteen,
- 31:36Speaker 1: a bunch of y'all gonna lose y'all jobs because that
- 31:39Speaker 1: means fifteen to fourteen, that's billions of dollars. I said, So,
- 31:42Speaker 1: now y'all want to have different conversation about black on
- 31:45Speaker 1: media spend. See, it's understanding how we have to leverage.
- 31:49Speaker 1: So we didn't have to ask, okay, how many of
- 31:52Speaker 1: us shop here? That's why I folk got to read
- 31:54Speaker 1: Martin Depp's book on Operation bread Basket, where they laid
- 31:57Speaker 1: the strategy out which one of them was. One of
- 31:58Speaker 1: them probably argue the most successful initiative of the King
- 32:01Speaker 1: left us. Reverend Jackson picked up, but they actually got
- 32:03Speaker 1: it from Rever Lee On Sullivan out of Philadelphia. But
- 32:06Speaker 1: that's about That was about It's about economics. What we're
- 32:08Speaker 1: doing is we're actually in many ways not fighting smart
- 32:13Speaker 1: which also goes to the education piece. When I support
- 32:16Speaker 1: charter schools because if I get to control of school
- 32:19Speaker 1: and control who gets hired, and control of spending, and
- 32:21Speaker 1: control of contrast and control the curriculum, hell, I'm down
- 32:24Speaker 1: with it. So I'm not gonna fight something that people like, well,
- 32:28Speaker 1: white folks, white racist created charter schools. I was like,
- 32:31Speaker 1: can you show me something in America white races didn't create.
- 32:34Speaker 1: So again, it's understanding, how do we now operate from
- 32:39Speaker 1: a state of mind where we're willing to own, we're
- 32:41Speaker 1: willing to take advantage of, and then willing to build that.
- 32:45Speaker 1: That is a state of mind. I long said we
- 32:48Speaker 1: need a massive reprogramming in Black America, a massive reprogramming
- 32:53Speaker 1: to think and operate differently for the next generation. You
- 32:56Speaker 1: saw Kanye do the White Lives Matter. I don't get
- 32:59Speaker 1: a shit about Kanye. Let me bundally clear. When you
- 33:03Speaker 1: spend when you expend energy on a fool, then you
- 33:07Speaker 1: end up discussing a fool. Did I post it? Nope?
- 33:11Speaker 1: Did I tweeted? Nope? Kanye is utterly irrelevant to me.
- 33:17Speaker 1: He feeds off of the drama and I will not
- 33:21Speaker 1: feed that beast. He can go to hell with cannas owns.
- 33:25Speaker 1: I don't really care in your in the white fear,
- 33:28Speaker 1: in the conclusion chafter the New American World order, you
- 33:30Speaker 1: talk about how the same level of white resistance the
- 33:33Speaker 1: black conclusion has to operate now in the reverse. Can
- 33:36Speaker 1: you can you explain it? Yeah? And that is we
- 33:38Speaker 1: we have to we have to understand that this fierce
- 33:44Speaker 1: fight is not going away, and so we must be
- 33:50Speaker 1: hell bent on fighting white supremacy, white nationalism. And we
- 33:54Speaker 1: can't get caught up in policle alialogy. You can't be oh, well, uh,
- 33:59Speaker 1: you're on the right and you're on the left and
- 34:02Speaker 1: you're my friend. No. No, here's why. It's a whole
- 34:07Speaker 1: who controls the money in democratic politics, White strategists, who
- 34:11Speaker 1: would they've locked out black strategists, black posters, black on media.
- 34:16Speaker 1: I went to a meeting. It was a it was
- 34:18Speaker 1: a it was a money meeting of all the different
- 34:20Speaker 1: buyers in DC, the big old meeting, about three hundred people.
- 34:24Speaker 1: It was full black people, me and three others. And
- 34:29Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going this, who controls political spending? Nine
- 34:32Speaker 1: billion dollars would be spent in this political cycle they
- 34:35Speaker 1: have created. They got company where they become millionaires, and
- 34:38Speaker 1: then they sit there and they run campaigns for candidates,
- 34:41Speaker 1: and the black candids have no control over their campaigns
- 34:43Speaker 1: because the strategist are running it. And so I'm gonna
- 34:46Speaker 1: hit the white Democratic strategists the same way I'm gonna
- 34:50Speaker 1: hit Republicans. I did this. Look, the Obama people were
- 34:53Speaker 1: mad at me. I didn't give a damn. But when
- 34:55Speaker 1: you saw the spending, even when he was president, only
- 34:58Speaker 1: less than two percent of that money was going to
- 35:00Speaker 1: firms that had a black partner or African Americans. It's
- 35:04Speaker 1: the money. You don't follow the money. You're not having
- 35:08Speaker 1: an American conversation. So we must, we must fortify ourselves
- 35:13Speaker 1: for what is happening, and understand here are not trying
- 35:17Speaker 1: to give up power easily. They're not doing that, and
- 35:21Speaker 1: so we've created a whole generation of kids. Oh no, no,
- 35:25Speaker 1: we've fought these battles for you. No. No. When Bernard
- 35:29Speaker 1: Shaw got rested Soul, when we hit CNN and we
- 35:33Speaker 1: hit Jeff Zucker because they had no black EPs, vps, SVPs,
- 35:37Speaker 1: EVPs and direct reports onto the board of na BJ,
- 35:40Speaker 1: Bernard Shaw made a comment when he got a Lot
- 35:42Speaker 1: Time Achieving award in Vegas in two thousand and seven
- 35:45Speaker 1: where he said, white men, your respect in the ocean
- 35:49Speaker 1: of color. And I called him and I said, were burning.
- 35:51Speaker 1: I just want to get your permission. I want to
- 35:53Speaker 1: use your clip. And this is what he said. He said, Roland,
- 35:57Speaker 1: He said every generation has its turn. Now it's your turn.
- 36:06Speaker 1: What he was saying is I'm old. We fought. Now
- 36:11Speaker 1: you got to pick that thing up. That has to
- 36:14Speaker 1: be our fighting spirit. We've got to wake up and
- 36:17Speaker 1: think about this thing not in terms of am I
- 36:20Speaker 1: gonna get paid? But the battle that I'm trying to fight.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Which is why I'm saying Black people, prepare ouselves twenty
- 36:26Speaker 1: forty three, because by twenty fourty three, I'm seventy something
- 36:29Speaker 1: years old. I'm talking about a battle for nieces and
- 36:32Speaker 1: nephews and their children's children. I do not want Black
- 36:37Speaker 1: America to be having this conversation in twenty forty three.
- 36:42Speaker 1: I agree with you. You said in that chapter of
- 36:44Speaker 1: that white folks need to do to have you lived hell, Yes,
- 36:46Speaker 1: we need white folks to take the lead on calling
- 36:48Speaker 1: out racism and bigotry. Yes, what reason would they have
- 36:51Speaker 1: to do that? Easy? Because guess what it ain't. It
- 36:54Speaker 1: ain't reversing. I mean, it's not reversing. You need more
- 36:58Speaker 1: more white Jane Elliot's more white. Tim Wise, you need
- 37:01Speaker 1: more conscious white folks because they're in spaces we're not in. Okay,
- 37:05Speaker 1: They're at dinner tables, they're at sorority meetings, they're at
- 37:08Speaker 1: the country clubs, they're in their in business meetings, when
- 37:11Speaker 1: things are being said, when subjective things are being stated. Again,
- 37:16Speaker 1: it was again going back to that ridiculous segment on
- 37:18Speaker 1: Bill Maher where a white woman goes, come here, she's
- 37:21Speaker 1: off putting. Stop what the hell is off putting? Everybody
- 37:25Speaker 1: black know what that phrase means, or you know, they
- 37:32Speaker 1: just don't. It's not a good fit. Okay, So they
- 37:37Speaker 1: have to sit. They they can't let stuff be said
- 37:41Speaker 1: that that goes unanswered. So it's no different if we
- 37:44Speaker 1: are men and bros are making comments about women, you're like, hey, ho, no,
- 37:48Speaker 1: we ain't going that. It's like people get mad at
- 37:50Speaker 1: me because I refuse to let people use then in
- 37:53Speaker 1: word at me on my social media. I'm like, no,
- 37:56Speaker 1: first of all, how you call yourself conscious, but you're
- 37:59Speaker 1: using language of the oppression. I'm confused. I'm trying not
- 38:03Speaker 1: to no. No, But it's not that hard. And so
- 38:06Speaker 1: it's you know, it's only hard when you're talking about
- 38:09Speaker 1: actual in words. No, it's not hard because sometimes you
- 38:11Speaker 1: see some something No it's not no, it's not no,
- 38:13Speaker 1: it's not because you can say that's bullshit. What's the difference.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Don't hit it hard this plump hand. No, No, yes
- 38:20Speaker 1: it does, yes, it does, just just it could be that.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Or look or when you see somebody, if I see
- 38:27Speaker 1: you know you're gonna say what's up? My No, my
- 38:30Speaker 1: brother is far more affirming. Again, but again, that's say
- 38:34Speaker 1: that is retraining one's mind. Look, I said the N
- 38:36Speaker 1: word for a long time. I haven't said the thirty
- 38:38Speaker 1: plush years because I trained myself to say no. There's
- 38:43Speaker 1: a lot of words we don't use now that people
- 38:44Speaker 1: used to use that absolutely, But again we know you
- 38:47Speaker 1: cannot say certain things now. I feel I got about
- 38:49Speaker 1: to be word. Though everything you're saying I totally agree with.
- 38:52Speaker 1: I just don't know why your mind is conditioned to
- 38:54Speaker 1: keep it easy. Because because the power of white supremacy,
- 38:59Speaker 1: and this is something that we have to confront, the
- 39:02Speaker 1: power of white supremacy is so strong that it has
- 39:07Speaker 1: always forced us to see ourselves as less than God.
- 39:13Speaker 1: And there's nothing worse than seeing rself as less than
- 39:16Speaker 1: to use something at the oppressor used against you. And
- 39:21Speaker 1: then you go, oh, we reclaimed it. No you didn't,
- 39:24Speaker 1: because you can't get mad if somebody white use it.
- 39:27Speaker 1: If you so called reclaimed it, how about you obliterated? Period.
- 39:30Speaker 1: It doesn't even come into my consciousness as the first
- 39:34Speaker 1: thing to say with that video the white guy in
- 39:36Speaker 1: Texas who went to the door, run the doorbell and
- 39:38Speaker 1: he said, hey, we're talking to the nigga. I'm sorry,
- 39:42Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He No, it don't come out that easy
- 39:45Speaker 1: if you're not using it. And so I want I
- 39:49Speaker 1: want us to take that same reprogramming which I have
- 39:52Speaker 1: to do for myself, and now apply that to everything
- 39:56Speaker 1: else in terms of how we look at our community.
- 39:58Speaker 1: When out to people to buy my book, say, look
- 40:00Speaker 1: it's availbout all these bookstores target Books, a million bars, Noble,
- 40:04Speaker 1: or called the black bookstore. See that's a state of mine.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Who you know what I want to get the book?
- 40:10Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an order through a black bookstore. That's
- 40:12Speaker 1: black economics, that's practicing. And so it's a state of
- 40:16Speaker 1: being where we have to be in to now begin
- 40:19Speaker 1: to understand. Just like when I challenge people, Oh, if
- 40:22Speaker 1: I post something about Nick Cannon and Eddie Murphy on
- 40:25Speaker 1: my Instagram by thousand comments just they had ten kids here.
- 40:31Speaker 1: But if I did it for a reason, And I
- 40:34Speaker 1: came back and I said, why look at all these comments,
- 40:36Speaker 1: I said, But when I post about us accessing three
- 40:40Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two billion, I said, oh, it's eighteen comments.
- 40:45Speaker 1: I said. Now let me ask y'allot question which one
- 40:47Speaker 1: has a greater impact on Black America access in three
- 40:52Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two billion or Nick and Eddie's kids? Well,
- 40:57Speaker 1: rolling no, no, no, no no, no, ask no, I ask yourself.
- 40:59Speaker 1: The question which goes to what we give our energy
- 41:05Speaker 1: too is where our time and attention goes. I'm saying
- 41:12Speaker 1: we should be stepping I'm not saying we shouldn't have fun,
- 41:14Speaker 1: we can't talk about and joke about stuff. What I
- 41:16Speaker 1: am saying is the amount of energy that we spend
- 41:20Speaker 1: on sheer bullshit. It's also what is affecting our community
- 41:26Speaker 1: in a negative way. And then we wonder why we
- 41:29Speaker 1: are broke. Because if we broke economically, we broke spiritually,
- 41:32Speaker 1: we broke mentally. And that's what I'm trying to get
- 41:36Speaker 1: us to understand reprogram ourselves for the future. I agree
- 41:39Speaker 1: with you what you said about dan Ord too, because
- 41:41Speaker 1: like I never use it as a term of endemic.
- 41:43Speaker 1: I use it in the way that white supremacist us
- 41:46Speaker 1: and see I won't because I'm not a white supremacist
- 41:48Speaker 1: and I'm not going to further their agenda. That's how powerful.
- 41:51Speaker 1: See the reason I talked about, even when we talk
- 41:53Speaker 1: about these progressives and conservatives who are white, the power
- 41:57Speaker 1: of white supremacy is so strong that it's it's it's
- 42:00Speaker 1: some nice white folks we know who say stuff and
- 42:03Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I don't know how, yes you do,
- 42:06Speaker 1: because white supremacist also impacts you. It is, it is
- 42:09Speaker 1: a viewpoint. It is a state of state of consciousness,
- 42:11Speaker 1: and that's what we're dealing with. And so we have
- 42:14Speaker 1: to we have to be willing to challenge them and
- 42:16Speaker 1: say what you're gonna do? See stop, We've always had
- 42:20Speaker 1: to save America, not white folks. Y'all gotta do some work.
- 42:24Speaker 1: That's why I said, y'all have got to put some
- 42:26Speaker 1: work in. You've got the challenge of one another to do. Right.
- 42:30Speaker 1: Can you tie that into affirmative action, which you also
- 42:33Speaker 1: discuss in White Fair Well, First of all, I'm gonna
- 42:35Speaker 1: call affirmtive action what it is the greatest economic engine
- 42:39Speaker 1: for white women, for white people. No group has benefited
- 42:42Speaker 1: more from affirmative action than white women, and so that's
- 42:46Speaker 1: also tied to it. White men figured that thing out right. MWBS.
- 42:50Speaker 1: When you get your certification to get these contracts with
- 42:52Speaker 1: this no, no, you said MWBE, it should be w
- 42:56Speaker 1: MBE because if you look at any MWMW program, the
- 43:01Speaker 1: group that gets more money as women. I was at
- 43:04Speaker 1: the Black Caucus in Illinois had this thing up. It
- 43:06Speaker 1: was Dan Bryan contract. They invited black black media and
- 43:08Speaker 1: the Black Caucus. So we're sitting in the guys talking
- 43:11Speaker 1: about women. Got this black scot did Latino. I said, question,
- 43:14Speaker 1: if you black women, which one of them categories you in?
- 43:17Speaker 1: He said, well you're in black. I said, well you Latino?
- 43:19Speaker 1: He said Latino hispan. I said, so that ducks should
- 43:23Speaker 1: be w W. I said, because all the women going
- 43:26Speaker 1: to other categories, that's white women. And so I spoke
- 43:30Speaker 1: to the airport minority contractors and concessions folks in Dallas,
- 43:35Speaker 1: and I say white women. Last, I said, when I said,
- 43:37Speaker 1: when from actually on the attack? Where the hell y'all at?
- 43:40Speaker 1: So y'all quiet? How y'all getting more contracts than any
- 43:43Speaker 1: of us? How are you quiet? Say again, somebody has
- 43:47Speaker 1: to be willing to challenge them. And he had white
- 43:50Speaker 1: women who like, oh my god, I didn't realize that.
- 43:53Speaker 1: I'm boy, how y'all didn't realize y'all are getting more?
- 43:56Speaker 1: And so that's what we're dealing with. Lasting we have
- 44:00Speaker 1: got we can't be afraid to say black. I'm in
- 44:04Speaker 1: a meeting. It was a charter school meeting at a
- 44:06Speaker 1: national charter lines. They had the national conference. Thirty people
- 44:09Speaker 1: in the room. It's probably about twenty bean dollars in
- 44:11Speaker 1: the room. It's two black people in Latino. And so
- 44:13Speaker 1: we're sitting there talking and Latino guy goes, you know,
- 44:16Speaker 1: I keep hearing you talk about black I believe in inclusion.
- 44:19Speaker 1: What about Latinos? And my initial was called school choices?
- 44:21Speaker 1: The Black choice. I say, hey, Dot, you more than
- 44:24Speaker 1: welcome to start school choice? Is the Latino choice rolling
- 44:28Speaker 1: here for black people? And I said to the room,
- 44:32Speaker 1: y'all can't do nothing with the Black caucus. Y'all can't
- 44:35Speaker 1: even get a meeting with the Black Caucus. I got
- 44:37Speaker 1: nine alphas in Congress. I can call a frat meeting.
- 44:40Speaker 1: And they're sitting around. They were like, damn like I
- 44:45Speaker 1: came in guns blazing them. Mary Landry and former United
- 44:47Speaker 1: States Center she raised the hand and she's like, um,
- 44:50Speaker 1: as a forming you is sitting he right, we can't
- 44:54Speaker 1: do this other black caucus, I was. I walked into
- 44:58Speaker 1: the room starting with black. I don't say, how can
- 45:02Speaker 1: we helping already businesses? I say, I'm here for black people.
- 45:06Speaker 1: Now does it mean you can't have an MWB program?
- 45:11Speaker 1: But I am willing to advocate for us first. And
- 45:16Speaker 1: so when we talk about a black owned media spin,
- 45:20Speaker 1: we tell everybody, don't send your chief Diversity officer. We're saying,
- 45:25Speaker 1: this is black owned media. You created category for black
- 45:28Speaker 1: owned media. You want to create one for Latinos and
- 45:32Speaker 1: for women and the LGBT. That's your business, but we're
- 45:36Speaker 1: gonna advocate this way. Ohn. Correct me if I'm wrong,
- 45:38Speaker 1: cause I thought I saw you pushing back against that. Uh.
- 45:40Speaker 1: I thought on social media when they're asking about how
- 45:43Speaker 1: come there's not a black hate crime bill, like a
- 45:45Speaker 1: specific bill for yes, yes, because first, well, first of all,
- 45:50Speaker 1: that's a lie. Okay, you've actually had three Okay, the
- 45:53Speaker 1: first one was the first one was in the sixties,
- 45:57Speaker 1: and then you also have the James Bird. But the
- 45:58Speaker 1: because the point is when you talk about a law,
- 46:03Speaker 1: a how's the law applied? So, for instance, we celebrated
- 46:07Speaker 1: Title nine this year fifty anniversary where tip nine come
- 46:11Speaker 1: from vigion nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act. Who far
- 46:14Speaker 1: for that? Black people voting? We know the ninety six
- 46:18Speaker 1: five Voting Rights Act was about black voting power. But
- 46:21Speaker 1: if you are Korean and the bows in your native language,
- 46:24Speaker 1: how is that so sixty five Voting Rights Act? And
- 46:27Speaker 1: so there's a difference between advocating for black owned media
- 46:32Speaker 1: with a company and then talking about a particular law.
- 46:36Speaker 1: The reality is how laws are applied, applied to all people.
- 46:41Speaker 1: So I guess. So when they do the anti Asian
- 46:45Speaker 1: or the Asian hate bill, dot say right, dot right there,
- 46:48Speaker 1: what you just said didn't exist. What's the bill called.
- 46:52Speaker 1: It's called the COVID nineteen Hate Crime Act. Oh, I
- 46:55Speaker 1: thought it was. No, it's not. No, it's not. No,
- 46:58Speaker 1: it's not twee things. No, it's not. When when President
- 47:02Speaker 1: Biden tweets out, pull it up. Let me see, I
- 47:06Speaker 1: pull it up, right, pull it up. Here's what happened
- 47:09Speaker 1: because of the increase in attacks against against Asians. That
- 47:15Speaker 1: was the impetus for the particular bill. So that in
- 47:19Speaker 1: the narrative in the beginning of the bill, it talks
- 47:22Speaker 1: about what took place. Now let me show you something.
- 47:24Speaker 1: Hold up, Hold up, hold up, now, pull up. I
- 47:27Speaker 1: want you to pull up something. I want to say.
- 47:28Speaker 1: You're you're right. It is called the COVID nineteen Hate
- 47:30Speaker 1: Crime Zact. But look when NBC News, yes, when Vox
- 47:34Speaker 1: all these people posted, they call it, yes, the anti
- 47:36Speaker 1: Asian Hate Crime Bill passes anti Asian hate And they
- 47:39Speaker 1: were wrong because they didn't read the damn bill okay,
- 47:41Speaker 1: because in in the narrative, they explain why the bill
- 47:45Speaker 1: was being done. Now, look up, look up Hate Crimes
- 47:49Speaker 1: Act and Black Churches. What you will discover Congress passed
- 47:53Speaker 1: a bill that specifically targeted the attacks on the burning
- 47:58Speaker 1: of black churches. In the narrative, it explains why they're
- 48:03Speaker 1: passing the bill because of the burning of black churches.
- 48:07Speaker 1: Does get that bill apply only to the burning of
- 48:09Speaker 1: black churches. No, it applied to all religious institutions. So
- 48:14Speaker 1: whether you're talking about mosque, what are you're talking about synagogues,
- 48:19Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. See and again this is where media
- 48:25Speaker 1: absolutely should but also learn how to read. And that's
- 48:28Speaker 1: part of the deal. And so they run for the
- 48:30Speaker 1: bumper stick aversion and then look just like Newsweek wrot
- 48:34Speaker 1: that article. Oh, Biden, cut HBC, you funded about thirty
- 48:37Speaker 1: five billion, an absolute lie. Negroes reposted that. And here's
- 48:43Speaker 1: what pisses me off. All these black folks reposted the
- 48:47Speaker 1: Newsweek article. Yet when we were doing their actual story
- 48:51Speaker 1: on Rolling Martin, unfiltered, Negroes weren't reposting that. So again,
- 48:55Speaker 1: going back, we see something in white media and go, oh,
- 48:59Speaker 1: there it is got to be true. Versus going hold up.
- 49:03Speaker 1: See that's what I do. I saw as through that
- 49:05Speaker 1: I went cut thirty five billion. Can you explain to me,
- 49:12Speaker 1: I'm reading this story, y'all cut thirty five No, you
- 49:14Speaker 1: didn't cut third Okay, send me the data so I
- 49:18Speaker 1: can understand that. So what did I do? I called
- 49:20Speaker 1: Corson Boby Scott. Why Cornson, Bobby Scott Virginia because he
- 49:23Speaker 1: sits on the subcommittee when it comes to the funding.
- 49:25Speaker 1: I called Cornston, Jim Clyburn. I hit all these black
- 49:28Speaker 1: these black these so called black media folk who ran
- 49:31Speaker 1: with that damned story, who didn't bother to actually call
- 49:34Speaker 1: a black member of Congress to verify the story? They
- 49:37Speaker 1: saw it in white media. It was wrong. That happens
- 49:40Speaker 1: all the time. So then what happens Black folks were
- 49:43Speaker 1: circulating that thing. See see Biden folks, they screwed up.
- 49:46Speaker 1: They cut thirty five active, and I'm like, it wasn't
- 49:49Speaker 1: even true. You got all riled up because something that
- 49:53Speaker 1: white media published that was fundamentally flawed NBC media. Democratic
- 49:58Speaker 1: Party fuels off that because they'll put out things that
- 50:01Speaker 1: We passed the LGBTQ Hate Crime Bill, and we passed
- 50:04Speaker 1: the anti Asian Hate Crime Bill. So these are are
- 50:06Speaker 1: elected officials who people trust. And when I'm see your point,
- 50:08Speaker 1: everybody may not read deeper than that tweet and what
- 50:11Speaker 1: I'm saying it, which is also why I'm sending the
- 50:13Speaker 1: black people who you're gonna listen to, who you're gonna watch,
- 50:16Speaker 1: who you're gonna read. That's why I challenge black media
- 50:19Speaker 1: to actually do the work and pick the phone up
- 50:22Speaker 1: and don't just rewrite something you saw in the New
- 50:24Speaker 1: York Post or the Washington Post on the New York Times.
- 50:27Speaker 1: It happens way too often. That's when I look folks
- 50:30Speaker 1: at at Shade Room and the Grio and the Route
- 50:33Speaker 1: and Black Enterprise. They've all gotten mad it because I've
- 50:35Speaker 1: called them out on some bs. I'm sorry. I operate
- 50:39Speaker 1: by facts. We have this question to that point, if
- 50:42Speaker 1: they do pass these bills, which is true, why they
- 50:45Speaker 1: don't ever say this is a bill for black people?
- 50:47Speaker 1: Then what they mean? Why they don't ever say it
- 50:50Speaker 1: like they say they'll they're quick to say this is
- 50:52Speaker 1: an LGBTQ crime. Go back, go back and look at
- 50:55Speaker 1: the coverage when they passed when they passed the bill
- 50:57Speaker 1: that with black churches, that's the case. It was, it was,
- 51:01Speaker 1: it was it was in uh late in his early nineties.
- 51:04Speaker 1: See so again, when people say we've never had one,
- 51:07Speaker 1: not true. See again, folks love to throw it out
- 51:10Speaker 1: and and and and that. I don't think they're quick
- 51:12Speaker 1: to stand by blackness the way they all everything else. Well,
- 51:14Speaker 1: but here's the deal, though, it's happened. If you go
- 51:16Speaker 1: look at the cover of a six Rights Act and
- 51:19Speaker 1: the Photo Rights Act, that's all you saw. But this
- 51:21Speaker 1: was a different time though. Okay, I'm sorry that was
- 51:25Speaker 1: a different time. No no no, no, no, no, no, no no.
- 51:27Speaker 1: If somebody says we've never had what does that mean? True? No,
- 51:32Speaker 1: what does it mean? It's never happened. So when you
- 51:35Speaker 1: actually provide the fact, well it did happen, the response
- 51:37Speaker 1: can't be without a long time ago. Well, I mean,
- 51:40Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to see both sidcers. You
- 51:42Speaker 1: can see both side out there, because you can see
- 51:43Speaker 1: how people will be offended for show me a both
- 51:45Speaker 1: side of it's never happened. True. But for example, somebody
- 51:48Speaker 1: like the Vice President, they ask her a simple question,
- 51:51Speaker 1: because racism exists in America, she can't answer that. But
- 51:54Speaker 1: if you ask her about it, any other. Uh community,
- 51:57Speaker 1: that's experience and hate. Quick to jump on that. Here's
- 51:59Speaker 1: my car. Okay, now go deeper than us own hot dog.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Why because she's afraid to turn off white voters. What
- 52:07Speaker 1: did I say about the last election? M m okay,
- 52:12Speaker 1: what would the total voter turnout? It was seventy one
- 52:15Speaker 1: or seventy three percent. So it's it's all politics, it's identity.
- 52:20Speaker 1: Some people will say that the average person say that
- 52:22Speaker 1: bullshit bulls. Yeah, I would also say it was bullshit
- 52:26Speaker 1: to there was black person. When you have your three
- 52:28Speaker 1: largest locations in Louisiana and the highs to thirty six
- 52:30Speaker 1: percent black turnout, here's a whole deal, black people. If
- 52:33Speaker 1: you're maximizing your voter turnout, if you're not voting at
- 52:36Speaker 1: forty five percent of your capacity, if you're voting at
- 52:39Speaker 1: seventy five five percent, then guess what. Your vote now
- 52:42Speaker 1: actually has more power Now the number actually goes down,
- 52:45Speaker 1: and so it all goes together. I understand folks who
- 52:48Speaker 1: say I want to hear black I want to hear
- 52:49Speaker 1: specifically talk about that. I want to hear something that's
- 52:51Speaker 1: specifically black people. But again, like perfect example, Treasure department. Uh,
- 52:57Speaker 1: she Freedman celebration. She's vice president. Hairs is laying out
- 53:02Speaker 1: talking about fifteen billion dollars is being spent on community
- 53:05Speaker 1: development of banks. Things on those lines, who what what what? What? What?
- 53:08Speaker 1: A community developing bank banks largely in black neighborhoods. Now,
- 53:12Speaker 1: people say, but I want to hear specifics. You do
- 53:16Speaker 1: your specifics. It's even in there as well. Oh but
- 53:19Speaker 1: I only want to hear black. You can't only hear
- 53:21Speaker 1: black because you can't. So you're not mad at that
- 53:23Speaker 1: because you so eat it playing the game. No, no, no,
- 53:25Speaker 1: here's o'deal when you say LGBT, is it only me
- 53:28Speaker 1: white people who came? Who's that a mean? That's like
- 53:32Speaker 1: affirmative action. No no no, no no no no no no
- 53:34Speaker 1: no no. Majority that stuffs white people more than black
- 53:37Speaker 1: everything in America. My god, did not just say I
- 53:41Speaker 1: get you a no no. We started and I'm like, well,
- 53:43Speaker 1: what's the point, But we started it off. Everything a
- 53:48Speaker 1: majority benefits white people. Why because they're in the majority.
- 53:52Speaker 1: Show me anything that's not going to largely benefited white
- 53:57Speaker 1: people when numerically they have the numbers, and so why
- 54:01Speaker 1: aren't they afraid two three? Because they're losing the numbers.
- 54:05Speaker 1: I still don't see how we win them. We win
- 54:08Speaker 1: when we first, We win voting wise, when we vote,
- 54:12Speaker 1: you see the phrase punch above your weight. We can't
- 54:17Speaker 1: vote the way they vote. We have to be voting easy.
- 54:22Speaker 1: Andrew gillim is Governor of Florida. If Broward County goes
- 54:28Speaker 1: from fifty seven total turnout to sixty five, Miami Dade
- 54:33Speaker 1: goes from fifty four to sixty five, how are the
- 54:37Speaker 1: red counties voting seventy seventy five percent? You can't win
- 54:43Speaker 1: in the fifties. Black people have to maximize numbers. This
- 54:48Speaker 1: is simple. Five hundred thousand eligible black people, three hundred
- 54:52Speaker 1: thousand of the five hundred thousand are registered, one hundred
- 54:56Speaker 1: and fifty thousand of the three hundred thousand who are registered,
- 55:00Speaker 1: and one hundred and fifty thousand five hundred thousand who
- 55:02Speaker 1: are eligible actually vote. That means one hundred and fifty
- 55:05Speaker 1: thousand Black people voted. Three hundred and fifty thousand black
- 55:08Speaker 1: people didn't vote. Your candidate loses by ten thousand votes. Well,
- 55:13Speaker 1: then we have to equip vote suppression into that too.
- 55:15Speaker 1: You can equate that, but hell, you had poll taxes.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Look We've always had to jump over hurdles. The point
- 55:22Speaker 1: I'm making is we have to say, y'all throw up,
- 55:27Speaker 1: throw up any hurdle, which also be in our story.
- 55:29Speaker 1: We're gonna jump over that damn hurdle. We've done that.
- 55:31Speaker 1: But I'm showing you real numbers. Charity Beasley's running for
- 55:34Speaker 1: North Carolina now to stay Senate right now, Okay, she
- 55:37Speaker 1: should be the chief Justice of the Supreme Court North Carolina,
- 55:40Speaker 1: she asked by four hundred votes. Four undred votes. I'm
- 55:45Speaker 1: what I'm laying out is, how do you maximize your power?
- 55:50Speaker 1: You can't holler we want this, this, this. If you're
- 55:54Speaker 1: not maximizing your power, how do you have sixty seven
- 55:59Speaker 1: percent of black people living in Ferguson, Missouri and it
- 56:03Speaker 1: wasn't until Michael Brown's death that they were able to
- 56:07Speaker 1: get a black mayor sixty seven percent. How that's not
- 56:14Speaker 1: maximizing your numbers. So what I'm saying it changes when
- 56:19Speaker 1: we then recognize and walk in our power. I think
- 56:25Speaker 1: sometimes that's an insult to the people who actually do
- 56:27Speaker 1: go out there vote because every election the scenes, we
- 56:30Speaker 1: always go out there and voting record number no, no, no, no.
- 56:34Speaker 1: In presidential election. No, no no, no, But the fine record numbers,
- 56:37Speaker 1: I don't know. A record number means it's more voted
- 56:44Speaker 1: this time than last time. That's all you can ask. No,
- 56:49Speaker 1: I don't look at did more vote? I look at
- 56:53Speaker 1: what's the percentage of eligibility? If if four of us
- 56:59Speaker 1: sitting right here, none of us voted last year, envy
- 57:07Speaker 1: votes next year. Oh my goodness, that was record numbers.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Three of us didn't vote. What happens if it's none
- 57:18Speaker 1: of us voted last year, all four of us voted
- 57:20Speaker 1: this year, it's a higher record and it's a higher
- 57:25Speaker 1: vote participation. I'm saying our vote can actually change outcomes
- 57:31Speaker 1: you've had. Wh we get credit for ruling? No, no, no,
- 57:34Speaker 1: we get we get credit because we have. We have
- 57:37Speaker 1: withstood everything they have thrown at us, and we're still standing.
- 57:42Speaker 1: How do you get people to vote? That's my question absolutely,
- 57:45Speaker 1: because I do feel like we talk about it all
- 57:47Speaker 1: the time. Get out there and vote, Make sure your
- 57:49Speaker 1: registers to vote. This is where you get the information.
- 57:52Speaker 1: And it's still not enough people, because that's approaching it
- 57:56Speaker 1: without any information. First, we have to walk volk through.
- 57:59Speaker 1: We gotta go back to freedom schools, which took place
- 58:03Speaker 1: in the period after after the Civil War, which took
- 58:05Speaker 1: place during Jim Crowe. Because it's a lot of folks
- 58:08Speaker 1: really have no clue. I use my show as like
- 58:11Speaker 1: Schoolhouse Rock two point er, walking people through talking about
- 58:14Speaker 1: the anti Asian Bill. I literally showed the bill, y'all,
- 58:19Speaker 1: this is the bill that ain't the name. Here's the
- 58:21Speaker 1: whole deal. When they were like, oh, that first same thing,
- 58:26Speaker 1: all these fools. I got my information from Trump. Don't
- 58:31Speaker 1: give us five hundred billions in contracts. You know, the
- 58:34Speaker 1: entire federal government only spends five hundred and sixty billion,
- 58:37Speaker 1: So how he gonna give us five hundred billion or
- 58:40Speaker 1: the five hundred and sixty billion. See again, it's folk
- 58:44Speaker 1: falling for the height. So we've got to be able
- 58:46Speaker 1: to have our outlets that of walking us through, but
- 58:50Speaker 1: it's walking me through the issues. When people come to
- 58:52Speaker 1: me and say I had a sister, it's twenty sixteen,
- 58:55Speaker 1: she's like, I don't like Hillary, I can't stand Trump's
- 58:57Speaker 1: I'm just gonna focus on my state. I say, where
- 58:59Speaker 1: you're from, sitting northline, I said, name me your top
- 59:01Speaker 1: three issues. She named the top three issues, and all
- 59:05Speaker 1: three of her issues were tied directly back to who
- 59:09Speaker 1: was hitting the White House. She was like, oh, now,
- 59:12Speaker 1: mind you, she was an activist. This was an informed,
- 59:15Speaker 1: so call informed voter. So I had to walk her
- 59:18Speaker 1: through that. We have to spend more time walking people
- 59:21Speaker 1: through and ask them what do you care about? When
- 59:23Speaker 1: people stop me on the street, on the plane, they say, man,
- 59:26Speaker 1: you know I want to do something, or or this
- 59:28Speaker 1: ain't working. I say, okay, what's your top issue? Then
- 59:31Speaker 1: I go what do you mean? I said, what's the
- 59:32Speaker 1: top thing you care about? And then when they do,
- 59:35Speaker 1: I then begin to walk them through, Okay, well this
- 59:37Speaker 1: has happening, This is happening. That's how we have to
- 59:40Speaker 1: do it. We literally don't have enough voter education. Once,
- 59:44Speaker 1: if I inform you now you're like, well damn not
- 59:48Speaker 1: where what's going on? Now? I can move to getting
- 59:52Speaker 1: your registered. And then when I get you registered, I
- 59:55Speaker 1: still I get you to the polls. Yeah, I got
- 59:57Speaker 1: a transportation plan. Okay, So it's just now, this, this
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: is this is probably the most important piece. Once the
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: election is over, Now, what do we do? A lot
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: of us go all right, we're good. No no no
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: no no no no no no no. That's the end
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: of one process the beginning of another. See, you can't
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: have all the people hollow tangibles tangibles. How many of
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: y'allre showing up when elections is over? So who's going
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: to schoolboard meeting? Kind of commissions meeting, state legislature, congress?
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: How are you advocating? What groups here doing? So you
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: say you want tangibles, and if I don't get tangibles,
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: I'm not gonna vote. Okay, you don't actually get tangibles
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: before the election. You get promises. You then have to
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: then force them to adhere to the promise they made
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: during the campaign. Well, how do you do that? You
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: have to show up. You've got to be willing to,
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: like black voters matter, locking yourselves to the White House
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: gate to get their attention. If they are not listening,
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: and then you can't say no, you know, we know
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: we shouldn't protest Biden. Harriss. No, if you ain't doing right, then,
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: if you're not advocating for me, then I gotta use
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: whatever I have to let you know I'm not playing
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: LGBT people. Twenty ten, Obomba was moving on, don't ask,
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: don't tell. They were like, all right, close them checkbooks.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: They lost that mere terms. What happened in December they
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: passed that damn bill. Say again, leverage. Our leverage is
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: not necessarily resources, but it is when it comes to voting.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: But we have to be willing. And then people say, well,
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: ce rolling, that's what I'm saying. You saying, don't vote,
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: no fool, I'm saying, don't vote for the person who's
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: not now following in your interests. Run somebody against them
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: in the primary and then replace them. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: And get and then if your person loses in the primary,
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: then you gotta do. Let the Republicans do. They sit
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: here and say, I'm gonna still vote for this person
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: because about power. But it's like I'm gonna put that
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: heat on your ass and you're gonna feel it every
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: single day. Which is why I for years I've challenged
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: my fratern to Alpha Fi Alpha and All D nine
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: and Prince Hall Mason's and Eastern Star in the links,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: how we have all of this black organizational power and
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: we're not sitting here walking in if two hundred black
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: women in pink and green just all of a sudden
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: show up at the school board meeting. This is gonna happen.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: They're gonna be like who in the hill or these
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: two hundred black women, And then the next month they
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: see black and gold, then purple and gold, then red
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: and white, and all of a sudden they keep saying it.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be well, what do we need to
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: do so they can stop showing up. That's leveraging your power.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: We have untapped power when it comes to voting, and
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: guess what when you show up there when it comes
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: to I'm not to the school board meeting, i ain't
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: talking about this curriculum. I'm talking about contracts. I'm talking
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: about bond election. I'm talking about black businesses. Now becomes economic.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: But we're gonna leverage the power. But we have to
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: educate people on this is the issue, this is the truth,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: This is the whole deal. And when they have the
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: information now it's kind of like, oh I was told this,
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: We'll stop listening to the food. Who told you live?
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions. I know you gotta go,
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: but I agree with everything you just said. But don't
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: you think the other part of that is sometimes these
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: candidates have to stop volunteering lies, meaning they talk about
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: things that they know they cannot get done. They don't
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: tell the whole story as politics. Yeah, but but remember potential.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Remember politics is about making promises. But what did President FRANKL.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: Delon Roosevelt till a Philip Randolph when Randolph was pressing him?
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: He said, Philip, everything you said is correct. Now God
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: make me do. And what did he do when he
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: threatened that march on Washington? He sat in an executive order.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: Our history? When when? When? When? When? When? He said? Look,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: he said, Martin, I can't remember the original civil rights
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: bill had all three of those beagles in the one bill.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: He said, well, we're gonna have to get He said, well,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: I don't have a power that We're gonna have to
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: go out and give you some power using that too
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: many of us are just laying back. I don't know
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: right now. Tennessee has stated they have grossly underfunded Tennessee
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: State to the tune of five hundred million. I've asked
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: the question I had Reverend Jeff Carr on my show.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: I said, who is mobilizing in Tennessee and what national
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: civil rights leaders are mobilizing to say we're gonna go
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: into Tennessee on this day, and we're going to mobilize
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: to move them to get that five hundred million dollars
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: Tennessee state. Okay, it was a thirteen year lawsuit to
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: get the five hundred and seventy seven million settlement for Maryland.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Alvin Chandlers did the settlement down in Mississippi. You've had
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: other See again we talk about man fund out with HBCUs. Okay,
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: how are you going to make them do it? And
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: so that's what we also have to do. We got
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: to move our people to action. And unfortunately too many
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: or not. But that's why I challenged our organizations. I
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: just did it at the CBC. I called out all
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: the frats and the sororities and challenged them and I said,
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: stop being so focus on your internal business and be
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: focused on the business of Black America. Doctor King said
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: this here and where do we go from here? Chaosol community.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: If you don't have that book, you should get. That
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: book is one of the top three books. I got
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: more than thousand in my home. It is top three.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: You would think he wrote that book last year. He
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: said there are four institutions that are primed to liberate
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: black America, the Negro Church, the Negro press, Negro fraternities
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: and sororities, and Negro professional and business organizations. He said,
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: all of them had never fully committed themselves to the
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: liberation of black people. What he's talking about is taking
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: organized power and leveraging it. So you talk about New
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: York Times bestseller lists, imagine if all of the DNA,
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: how many copeents you take to the New York Time
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: bestseller lists? But twenty five thousand, No, not that much
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: depends on the week five thousand. So imagine if all
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: of the Divine nine Prince Hallmason's Eastern start in the
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: links said by a wife field this, go buy wife Feel,
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: or next week go by Angel's book, next week by
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: your book, by VI's book, by Jamale Hill's book. Now
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: of a set, you don't even need to be going
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: around to a ton of the book tours. We could
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: literally place multiple books. That's organizing your power. That's why
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: when people came in a minute like man, I don't
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: know you, you you ain't gonna really ain't gonna do well
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: launching roller Martin unfilter, I said, don't worry about it.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: So here we are four years later, I launched last
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: year Blackstar Network OTT. I'm launching a twenty four hours
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: streaming channel next month that I took my social media
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: following organized it built one show, built a network, Now
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: have six other shows, now have three shows in development,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: and now go twenty four streaming channel. What's that that's organized?
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: That's organizing, immobilized? You know it's interested about that? Like
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: you built that network so much that when I see
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: you on MSNBC or see you on another program, I'll
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: be like within the time on that Oh no, no, no,
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: And I know I know it. Well, no, I'm gonna
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: getting something that's funny. So first time in the MSNBC
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: during COVID from because I have a studio in my home,
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: so I got green screened everything. So I got my
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: same same you know, I'll do my show. So director
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: coming and say hey, anyway we can, um, we can
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: make that background smaller. Nope, Nope, that's it. First of all,
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: y'all ain't paying man. So if you want me talking
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: on Saturday morning early when I could be playing golf asleep,
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: y'all gonna see that logo that's Brandon but as good
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: as Tiffany. So I mean you know, but no, no no,
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: that done. That wouldn't that that was? That was Ali Belshi.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: So I've done Alec Belshi. I don't know. MSNBC seems
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: only called me on the weekends. I don't know what's
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: up with that. Well, I know I've been shadow banned
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: on a weekday and I told him that too, and
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: so I ain't got a problem. And I know who
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: did it too. Uh, and know exactly who did it.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: Damn exactly who did it. I've called his name out.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: You know what the hell? You know exactly Jonathan Walton
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: know what he did to me. I was was supposed
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: to be on r Melbourne Show and that was ten
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: minutes out. I'm at the top of the show. I'm
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: talking about it. I'm in Austin. I'm at the top
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: of the show discussed Doug Jones. I get a call. Uh,
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: my head was canceled. Wow. I sent an email and
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I said, all right, what executved piss off? They're like,
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: oh no, no, that's not what happened on my days
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: would happen? And then I found out it was him
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: because he was pissed at me and Jake Tapper went
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: out of the day before on Twitter, and I'm like, dude,
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: he is CNN. You used to work at CNN. Why
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: are you tripping to MSNBC. Because during twenty fifteen, year
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: after the election, Oh, all the shows were calling me,
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: Katie turb blowing me up, Hallie Jackson, they were like,
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: oh my god, Katie's they wanted me on every Thursday,
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: Stephanie Rule, all the weekday shows were calling me, and
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Wow, everything is shut down,
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I said it, and he knew
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: exactly what he did. Now, I've told other executives there
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: what the whole deal was the only time I told Rachida.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: So the only time I look, I ain't gonna problem
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: it looked. The only time I get called now is
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: Tiffany's show, Ali's show, Alice Witt. No day time shows none,
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: no daytime shows, no prime time shows, none, even when
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: I've had exclusives. So it is what it is. And
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: we know Fox News not gonna call because you know
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: they can't handle this much blackness. It's my final question.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: If you talk about white fear a lot, and we
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: know fear, is that the rule that every injustice? As
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Reverend Barber says, but don't you think and then you've
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: been touching on it a little bit, but don't you
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: think black people have a fear of demanding things from democrats? Oh?
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: I think that. I here's why some black people. But
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: remember when you make a demand, it also requires accountability. See.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: I can demand something of Angela, you and Envy one time,
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: but I got to follow up now after I say
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: I need you to do this within what if you
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: don't now what I do? A lot of people want
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: to yell Holly screen, but they don't want to follow up.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: When When? When? When the Republicans were blocking Lerida Lynch,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: black women were Capital Hill every week? I was like, Yo,
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: what are brothers? What are brothers? I hate all these
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: black males grow where y'all at? How this black woman
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: is getting screwed and the sisters are coming every week?
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: Meet Jamal Bryant and Jeff John's black What the hell?
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: We organized? Two hundred black men were like literally like, yo,
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: meet us in front of the fountain across from the
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: Capital and we're gonna go to Capital Hill. Two hundred
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: brothers showed up and rolled with us as accountability. We
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: didn't just say miss damn shame brothers. No, we said
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. That's the deal. Because he now
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: that requires organization, mobilization, planning, it requires work. And then
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: people go, well, I shouldn't have to do all that.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: I voted. Your opposition don't just vote. They mobilize, they organize,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: they raise money. And so we did. And so again,
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: if we want to see change in our cities, in
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: our states, in this country, it is going to require
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: people to be accountable and do something. My mom and
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: daddy were part of a civic club in Clinton Park
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. So people that understand I think this
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: way because I saw two people who never went to
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: college get with a few neighbors and they say, we
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: want to do this and this and this. We want
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: some new streets as new sidewalks and new some lights,
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: and take these crack houses down and take these abandoned
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: lots down. They organize people like man that ain't gonna work,
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: y'all gonna fail. That's also biblical. Go read Nea might
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: have the two three and four he saw to reap
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: the wall Jerusalem had crumble. He said, we need to
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: rebuild the wall. But go read the scripture. It says
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: the people said, let us rebuild. Our problem is we
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: have black generals. We ain't got enough black troops. We've
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: got people like Tamika, Untell, Freedom and Linda. We've got
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: a folk over here with different Black Lives Matter chapters.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: You've got other order people out there who are doing
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: the work. They need folks to stand with them and
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: show up as opposed to Well, they got it. No,
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: this is how you rebuild. This is how you actually fight.
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: But that's the accountability part. A lot of folks man
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: just want to sit back and want somebody else to
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: do over THEMN work. That's what they want. And I'm
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: saying it can't happen when I'm out here fighting for
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: black on media, I'm saying everybody can eat. I'm not.
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: Disney can't get all three twenty two billions now they can't.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: I can't get all the black own money. So if
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: somebody asked me, they say, rolling, if you could get
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: five hundred million, or you and not others could get
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: fifty million each between you take I said, oh ten
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: of us getting fifty They're like, what said, here's why?
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: Because he now, if we all go out, I ain't
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: gonna pay because we all get to and if ten
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: of us got fifty million, that means ten families, ten
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: multiplena raise sins now have it versus one person having
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: the wealth. That's the collector that King talked about on
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: April third, nineteen sixty eight. He said, Black people individually
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: are poor, but collectively we are one of the richest
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: nations in the world. If black people practice collective work,
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: he said, we can change. But it's the work part.
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: That's why they're scared, because it's accountability for a white fair.
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: Pick it up right now, Roland Martin, we appreciate you.
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: That's called bringing the funk. That's what he called doc.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: This is what I this is what I do and
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: look and for the folks who I hid it, don't
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: get mad because you messed up it.