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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in a kiss you. I am all
- 0:17Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody,
- 0:22Speaker 1: we're back for Christopher Returns. I'm Scott Patterson and this
- 0:27Speaker 1: is the I Am All In Podcast with iHeart Radio
- 0:30Speaker 1: and one eleven Productions, and we are going to discuss
- 0:34Speaker 1: a I mean, just what a what a what an episode?
- 0:39Speaker 1: I mean far talk about fireworks in the Gilmour living room.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It was like an m m A fighting there amongst
- 0:46Speaker 1: the high i Q set. You know, it was like
- 0:48Speaker 1: whoa takedowns all over the place and got physical. You
- 0:54Speaker 1: got physical with what's his name? Mr? What's his name? Mr?
- 0:58Speaker 1: Hay stro Beaden, What a name? Loved the name Strobe.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I mean, it got physical. Richard in in his guardag
- 1:07Speaker 1: he stood up like a grizzly bear, uh and just
- 1:10Speaker 1: grabbed that man, tossed him out of his house defending Laurel.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I what a what a what an episode? My god?
- 1:17Speaker 1: And scene was not okay, that was upsetting. It was
- 1:23Speaker 1: it was very upsetting. But yeah, the whole thing was upsetting.
- 1:27Speaker 1: But Emily, I think Emily tried to save the evening
- 1:31Speaker 1: for poor Rory in the kitchen. Was it was kind
- 1:35Speaker 1: of heartbreaking because I've never seen Emily that vulnerable where
- 1:39Speaker 1: she's just like, my god, what what? What? You know,
- 1:42Speaker 1: the trauma that this child must have gone through as
- 1:46Speaker 1: a result of perhaps Richard and Emily's actions towards their
- 1:50Speaker 1: daughter and then through through the years is now getting
- 1:54Speaker 1: you know, that same behavior is getting on Rory. So
- 1:57Speaker 1: I think she felt a little guilty about it. Yeah,
- 2:00Speaker 1: that that was a nice scene after the scarring I
- 2:05Speaker 1: experienced from the scene before Goodness Christopher returns. Boy did that?
- 2:13Speaker 1: Uh man? That guy, he just came in too hard
- 2:17Speaker 1: and too fast with the marriage thing. I wanted, you know,
- 2:19Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that was aggressive, I thought, so do like,
- 2:22Speaker 1: like have a plan, you know, have a like a
- 2:26Speaker 1: six month plan or a year plan. You've been out
- 2:30Speaker 1: of the picture for sixteen years, and like night one,
- 2:34Speaker 1: was it like the first night or the second day
- 2:36Speaker 1: or something. He's like, all of a sudden, like I
- 2:39Speaker 1: want to marry you. I was like, what a clumsy dude.
- 2:43Speaker 1: So much happened in that episode because they slept together too. Sorry, sorry,
- 2:49Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to hurt you.
- 2:51Speaker 1: But didn't bother me. Really didn't bother me at all.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Now I underd I understood, I under stood why that happened.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I tried to. I think I was so overwhelmed by it.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I just attached myself emotionally and just sort of went
- 3:08Speaker 1: straight to the intellect and tried to reason it out.
- 3:13Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, that's of course that's going to happen.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Entirely predictable. It had to happen. Um, And it did.
- 3:21Speaker 1: And I was kind of glad that it did, because
- 3:24Speaker 1: if that didn't happen, then maybe they would have gotten together.
- 3:28Speaker 1: I think the very fact that he pushed it to
- 3:30Speaker 1: that degree and was so aggressive as the thing, you know,
- 3:34Speaker 1: that was the real flying the ointment that. I mean,
- 3:36Speaker 1: we all knew that he was being too aggressive when
- 3:39Speaker 1: he made the move on her in the kitchen, and
- 3:40Speaker 1: she she protested very strongly, um and said all the
- 3:46Speaker 1: right things that you're not ready and you're not ready
- 3:49Speaker 1: for this, and you don't know what this entails, and
- 3:51Speaker 1: you have demonstrated no ability to make that level of
- 3:55Speaker 1: commitment as a father or as a person or as
- 3:57Speaker 1: a friend. Um well maybe not as a friends, but
- 4:00Speaker 1: as a father. And and she was she was nailing
- 4:04Speaker 1: it all over the place, and and just the fact
- 4:08Speaker 1: that I think there was a part of her on
- 4:11Speaker 1: that balcony that said, this is the last hurrah. This
- 4:15Speaker 1: isn't the beginning of anything. This is the end of something,
- 4:18Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just get it out of him, gonna
- 4:20Speaker 1: let him get it out of his system so that
- 4:22Speaker 1: he goes away, because once he gets that, he's gone.
- 4:26Speaker 1: He's not the guy. He's not the forever guy, and
- 4:29Speaker 1: he never was, and she knows that. So maybe there
- 4:31Speaker 1: was a part of her deep down that knew instinctively that,
- 4:34Speaker 1: you know, sleeping with him wasn't going to be the
- 4:40Speaker 1: biggest mistake in the world. It was going to be
- 4:41Speaker 1: the thing that really cleared him out. You know, maybe
- 4:46Speaker 1: there's a part of her that that knew that, you know,
- 4:49Speaker 1: I don't, I don't want to. I don't. I don't
- 4:51Speaker 1: think she's that cynical in that moment to sort of
- 4:54Speaker 1: consciously be aware of that and saying, oh, you know what,
- 4:57Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this and then he'll go away. But
- 4:59Speaker 1: I just think it was somewhere underneath there. Yeah, I
- 5:03Speaker 1: thought it did work because if that scene was so
- 5:07Speaker 1: overwhelming with the fight that it just seemed like it
- 5:12Speaker 1: was such a mess, and they were probably also hurt
- 5:14Speaker 1: that it was like it did feel logical, like okay, yeah,
- 5:17Speaker 1: now they're going to be on the balcony and like
- 5:19Speaker 1: do it. And it was like, wow, this is this
- 5:21Speaker 1: is very fiery. Everything's fiery. Now it's like, oh sudden,
- 5:25Speaker 1: It's like it's like really interesting. Say yeah. It was
- 5:28Speaker 1: the most dramatic sort of scarring scene we've had so far.
- 5:35Speaker 1: It was it was it was ungilmore like almost because
- 5:39Speaker 1: it really it was. It suddenly turned into a drama.
- 5:44Speaker 1: And you know, some of the greatest lines so far
- 5:47Speaker 1: in the season, so far, the episodes I've watched and
- 5:49Speaker 1: what what is that? Thirteen thirteen Now we're up to
- 5:53Speaker 1: um we're all the little quippy lines between Rory and
- 5:57Speaker 1: Laurel I with all the tension, like did you just curtsy?
- 6:00Speaker 1: Like yes, my lady. It's hysterical stuff like Roy didn't
- 6:09Speaker 1: know what to do so she curtsyed. And the presence
- 6:11Speaker 1: of Mrs Hayden. She's so amazing in this episode because
- 6:15Speaker 1: her awkwardness is so like accurate. It's just like she
- 6:22Speaker 1: doesn't know and she does that scene where she says,
- 6:25Speaker 1: strobe mr YouTube there you two there sitting there, yes,
- 6:33Speaker 1: and then the fight was so ugly, but so you know,
- 6:37Speaker 1: the most heartbreaking thing about to go when Christopher arrived
- 6:43Speaker 1: or now I'm sorry, after he left, how vulnerable and
- 6:46Speaker 1: how much Rory wants her dad back in her and
- 6:49Speaker 1: it's so heartbreaking, so heartbreaking that her mother has to
- 6:53Speaker 1: be the bear of bad news and you know, him
- 6:56Speaker 1: showing up forced her to, you know, kind of break
- 6:58Speaker 1: her daughter's heart again because she has this hope, and
- 7:01Speaker 1: hope is the thing with feathers as we know, um,
- 7:04Speaker 1: as we are learned in school, and you know, I
- 7:07Speaker 1: I know what that is, and that's that's hard to
- 7:10Speaker 1: deal with that when you're a teenager wanting a parent
- 7:13Speaker 1: to come back, it's hard and it colors your whole life.
- 7:17Speaker 1: And it's exactly why she failed. This is exactly why
- 7:22Speaker 1: Rory didn't thrive. I think it contributed mightily, um because
- 7:30Speaker 1: she's got that whole insider. It's kind of amazing she
- 7:33Speaker 1: didn't turn into uh well, I mean, you know, kids
- 7:37Speaker 1: make bad choices when they have that whole you know,
- 7:41Speaker 1: it's a mommy hole or a dad hole, and they
- 7:43Speaker 1: you know, they drink and they do drugs and they
- 7:45Speaker 1: do all kinds of extreme behavior to sort of field
- 7:47Speaker 1: that hole. And and I don't know what Rory did
- 7:52Speaker 1: after she graduated from Yale or she just doesn't really
- 7:55Speaker 1: get a career like we expected. But we can talk
- 7:58Speaker 1: about that. And Ma gets exactly because that scene, that
- 8:03Speaker 1: scene when they're walking back up to the house after
- 8:05Speaker 1: Christopher leaves on his most motorcycle and she's so hopeful,
- 8:09Speaker 1: like maybe he could come back mom, and like, Rory,
- 8:12Speaker 1: you know, it's not really, He's not the guy. And
- 8:15Speaker 1: you know, you know, she was trying to just let
- 8:17Speaker 1: her down easy because she knew in her heart he's
- 8:20Speaker 1: never going to be that guy. We can talk about
- 8:23Speaker 1: this in a minute. But no matter how sweet and
- 8:28Speaker 1: and and correct, the scene is with Emily and Rory
- 8:31Speaker 1: where she's saying, none of this is about you. There's
- 8:35Speaker 1: no way a sixteen year old kid does not make
- 8:37Speaker 1: that about them. That there's almost a fist fight because
- 8:42Speaker 1: she was born and she ruined him going to Princeton
- 8:47Speaker 1: and Laurela having It's like, how do you not internalize that?
- 8:51Speaker 1: There's no way? And that's it's also why the same
- 8:55Speaker 1: token Christopher probably has been failing because he I mean,
- 9:00Speaker 1: if you're that guy, if you have the weight of
- 9:03Speaker 1: that DNA on you to go to Princeton and you
- 9:06Speaker 1: don't go, you know, and those parents, are you kidding me?
- 9:12Speaker 1: I'm surprised Christopher is doing as well as he is.
- 9:15Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll talk about this in a minute. So
- 9:17Speaker 1: these are three people caught up in this maelstrom of
- 9:22Speaker 1: uh expectation and tradition and higher education that they none
- 9:27Speaker 1: of them, the only one of them will follow through
- 9:29Speaker 1: and we'll see how far she gets. And this, God,
- 9:34Speaker 1: you realize in that scene, the pure dysfunction actually of
- 9:40Speaker 1: this family. Well you know, the pain, the deep seated
- 9:44Speaker 1: unspoken pain that came now it comes out. I mean,
- 9:47Speaker 1: now it's all hanging out in the open now, all
- 9:51Speaker 1: the dirty laundry being here. That the deep pain and
- 9:54Speaker 1: was one of the most um I mean, if you
- 9:59Speaker 1: didn't say think that ed Herman was you know, a
- 10:03Speaker 1: cop drawer actor. I don't know why you would think that,
- 10:07Speaker 1: but my god, did he dis He displayed some range
- 10:11Speaker 1: in this episode, especially that scene in the in the
- 10:16Speaker 1: in his office with Lauren. Yeah, just remarkable stuff and
- 10:22Speaker 1: heart wrenching, and you see how deeply it affected these people.
- 10:25Speaker 1: It really, you know, it really humanized Richard for me,
- 10:29Speaker 1: and it really humanized um Emily. Yeah, because they really
- 10:35Speaker 1: went through it. My god, the disappointment was so deep,
- 10:38Speaker 1: so deep. Um. But well there you go. If you
- 10:42Speaker 1: express it repeatedly, it's going to have an effect on
- 10:46Speaker 1: people and make them want to stay away from you,
- 10:48Speaker 1: where you're going to have to bribe bribe them back
- 10:51Speaker 1: into your lives and for Friday night dinners and private
- 10:53Speaker 1: school tuition. Well, let's take a break and bring in
- 10:57Speaker 1: our guest. All right, I think that's what I happy. Anyway,
- 11:01Speaker 1: we'll be back with our guest, our surprise guest. Should
- 11:06Speaker 1: we name him? Yeah, that's a good one. Mike Gazalf,
- 11:13Speaker 1: who had a couple of lines in this episode. We're
- 11:15Speaker 1: gonna talk to him when we're back. Hey, Scott, how
- 11:22Speaker 1: are you doing, Mike? Thanks for coming on. I'm glad you. Uh.
- 11:26Speaker 1: I enjoyed the show and I thought I was glad
- 11:28Speaker 1: to be asked. Thank you so so you. Mike Gainsolfie
- 11:33Speaker 1: have been nominated or a Golden Globe Award winning Comedy Writer,
- 11:39Speaker 1: Peabody Award, Emmy nomination for Rosanne Dennis Miller Live Veronica's Closet,
- 11:45Speaker 1: Mystery Science, three thousand later with Greg Kinnear. Oh my god,
- 11:50Speaker 1: I had no idea. You never talked about this. I
- 11:55Speaker 1: keep all that hidden by just being so so bad
- 11:58Speaker 1: on as Andrew that I hit all that other you know,
- 12:02Speaker 1: I hit it all under the rest of it. But yeah, no,
- 12:05Speaker 1: I started and been I've been a stand up comic
- 12:07Speaker 1: and a writer. And then whenever I know there's a
- 12:10Speaker 1: camera on me, except for right now hopefully, I always
- 12:13Speaker 1: just went on camera and I just panicked. So it
- 12:17Speaker 1: was just like, you know, people who I thought would go, oh,
- 12:20Speaker 1: we know you was a writer, to go just just
- 12:24Speaker 1: go back. You're You're perfect behind the camera. Stop ever
- 12:26Speaker 1: just being on camera. And so I just you know,
- 12:29Speaker 1: So I've been writing everything. I mean, I've wrote before,
- 12:31Speaker 1: and I wrote sort of during and I've spent all
- 12:34Speaker 1: of I wrote three pilots during, um you know, so
- 12:37Speaker 1: far during COVID, and I've got two more I'm working
- 12:40Speaker 1: on now and just trying to sell those and selling screenplays.
- 12:43Speaker 1: And I'm and that's how I That's how I spend
- 12:46Speaker 1: my day. So you so you got, well that's terrific,
- 12:49Speaker 1: very productive. Um um so you got so you knew
- 12:55Speaker 1: Amy and Dan prior and that's how tell us how
- 12:59Speaker 1: you got the role. I've worked with Amy on Roseanne
- 13:03Speaker 1: in the beginning. When I got hired on Roseanne, she
- 13:05Speaker 1: was already there, so I knew Amy. I worked on
- 13:08Speaker 1: three or four of her different shows. Worked on a
- 13:10Speaker 1: show with Daniel on called Over the Top, and then
- 13:14Speaker 1: we worked on Ronica's Closet together. Amy and Amy and
- 13:17Speaker 1: I worked on that, and then her next show is
- 13:21Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, and and you know she didn't need me
- 13:24Speaker 1: on that show. But one day Helen Pye, who works
- 13:28Speaker 1: behind the scenes married to the real David Gelski, uh
- 13:31Speaker 1: said I said something about can I say some lying
- 13:34Speaker 1: about thanks Luke, and will you stand all night in
- 13:36Speaker 1: the snow? And I went, sure, I'll do that, And
- 13:40Speaker 1: you brought me coffee and they love and Warren snow
- 13:42Speaker 1: when I was on, and they made me get my
- 13:43Speaker 1: sag card for that because I've done a couple of
- 13:46Speaker 1: little lines on other shows, and I went, well, you
- 13:49Speaker 1: no offense, you made me get my sag card. Can
- 13:51Speaker 1: you just throw me on the show but once in
- 13:53Speaker 1: a while, And they went alright, as little as possible,
- 13:56Speaker 1: which is how I like like. It was usually something
- 13:58Speaker 1: goofy like you know, I warn a that army costume
- 14:03Speaker 1: to uh Amy's and Amy had a party, and also
- 14:06Speaker 1: at Amy and Daniel's wedding, I wore this army costume,
- 14:09Speaker 1: so they said, we want you to wear that in
- 14:11Speaker 1: the dance Marathon episode. So that was filmed way on
- 14:15Speaker 1: the West Valley and it was like a hundred degrees
- 14:17Speaker 1: already and I nearly fainted wearing that wool suit and
- 14:21Speaker 1: to pull me someone had dragged me to the fan
- 14:23Speaker 1: to get me revived practically, and then they stupidly, Uh,
- 14:28Speaker 1: not stupid, it was actually fun. I took Amy to
- 14:30Speaker 1: a beakroom class, but beakerm was still a thing you're
- 14:32Speaker 1: allowed to talk about, and uh, she said at the
- 14:35Speaker 1: end of the class. She said, the whole time, I
- 14:37Speaker 1: just thought, how can I kill Mike and DOLPHI and
- 14:39Speaker 1: that Bellary Campbell said. Bellary Campbell says, because of that,
- 14:45Speaker 1: but she made me, uh have to be topless in
- 14:49Speaker 1: the art episode. So that was responsible for my being
- 14:52Speaker 1: in the statue in the art episode. So there's always
- 14:56Speaker 1: something goofy like that. Otherwise, as in town meetings, and
- 14:59Speaker 1: you know, I saw the uh I couldn't sell it.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Oh e ed to Christopher because he's card got declined.
- 15:06Speaker 1: But it's just little things like that that I was
- 15:08Speaker 1: doing in the show, in town meetings and things like that. Um,
- 15:13Speaker 1: so that's so you and Amy and Dan go back aways. Yeah,
- 15:17Speaker 1: that was. I was friends with them and went to
- 15:19Speaker 1: their wedding. They went to my wedding. Um, we've known
- 15:22Speaker 1: each other many years? What was what was their wedding? Like?
- 15:26Speaker 1: It was actually a swing wedding, you know, like you
- 15:29Speaker 1: like that's why I was wearing a nineteen forties army
- 15:32Speaker 1: costume and they were you were supposed to. Uh. The
- 15:35Speaker 1: songs were all sort of swing dance songs, although I couldn't.
- 15:38Speaker 1: I think I I think she got us all lessons
- 15:41Speaker 1: one or two lessons, so I went to one one
- 15:43Speaker 1: dance lesson and then swing swing danced is that the
- 15:47Speaker 1: right term? Or swung dance? I don't know swing danced,
- 15:52Speaker 1: but yeah there right, Yeah, there's a swing. There's there's
- 15:57Speaker 1: swing music sort of. There was song I really know
- 16:00Speaker 1: would be Take five. But that's it was kind It
- 16:04Speaker 1: was fun talk about how difficult it was. What were
- 16:10Speaker 1: you in any episodes in season seven? No? No, but
- 16:15Speaker 1: you watched the episode you watched the episodes, you watch
- 16:17Speaker 1: the whole series. I know, in fact, that's been funny
- 16:21Speaker 1: that I hadn't even watched this episodeuntil I watched it
- 16:24Speaker 1: for this because I only saw my part. Whe I
- 16:26Speaker 1: knew that I declined Chris's credit card, but I had
- 16:30Speaker 1: no idea that they I don't want to give him
- 16:32Speaker 1: any spoilers, but we're talking about the episode that they
- 16:35Speaker 1: didn't know they'd slept together later in the episode. I
- 16:37Speaker 1: thought that would have been a perfect way to run
- 16:38Speaker 1: the show, is make or give birth to Chris's second kid,
- 16:42Speaker 1: and that Rory and the second kid could have been
- 16:45Speaker 1: sixteen years apart. She could have been friends with her
- 16:48Speaker 1: daughter and friends with her second daughter. I had a
- 16:51Speaker 1: whole different direction for the show. Yeah, that's that's a
- 16:53Speaker 1: different direction for sure. Wow. So, UM, tell us a
- 17:02Speaker 1: little bit more about um your experiences. Well, so what
- 17:06Speaker 1: did you think of the writing? What do I mean,
- 17:09Speaker 1: why do you think Well, let me ask you this,
- 17:11Speaker 1: why do you think it worked so well? Why do
- 17:13Speaker 1: you think that writing was unique onto any other show?
- 17:18Speaker 1: For from season one through six? I think Amy Amy
- 17:24Speaker 1: writes really well and really like even on Rosanne, she
- 17:28Speaker 1: she knew what she was, what she was writing about
- 17:31Speaker 1: and who she was, and just made the stories really
- 17:33Speaker 1: personal and and had the emotions down better than anyone.
- 17:37Speaker 1: And and she just got the personal connections that you know,
- 17:41Speaker 1: I just I've been a comedian. I just wanted to
- 17:43Speaker 1: write jokes like I just wanted to, you know. And
- 17:45Speaker 1: then the Kangaroo one and you go, alright, everyone laughed
- 17:48Speaker 1: and no one cares, all right, and you know, and
- 17:51Speaker 1: like I grew up in an emotionally stunted family, so
- 17:55Speaker 1: we didn't talk to each other. So like, they're doing
- 17:58Speaker 1: emotions and I'm like, what are people doing. They're talking
- 18:01Speaker 1: about their feelings, like I don't you know, so she
- 18:04Speaker 1: but she got that. So all the connections of things
- 18:07Speaker 1: and me. You know that in every episode they're connecting
- 18:11Speaker 1: as people and there's emotions. You go, ah, if I
- 18:14Speaker 1: had those emotions, I get it. And as a person,
- 18:17Speaker 1: you know, I watched it. I understand what you guys
- 18:19Speaker 1: are doing. So but she just got that edit than anyone. Unfortunately,
- 18:27Speaker 1: you're a robot comedian didn't understand. But I mean, but look,
- 18:34Speaker 1: intellectually speaking and emotionally, of course, you can appreciate it. Yeah,
- 18:38Speaker 1: very much. And I got I got all that right,
- 18:41Speaker 1: and you under and you understood how difficult it is
- 18:43Speaker 1: to create that many very unique characters, distinctive voices. You know,
- 18:47Speaker 1: there's so many, I mean there's thirty or forty eplodents.
- 18:50Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. And I also know that how much how
- 18:54Speaker 1: much writing she did, because the scripts are half again
- 18:56Speaker 1: as long as a normal script because everyone's talking so quickly,
- 18:59Speaker 1: and and just that she got what was an eight
- 19:03Speaker 1: page script, any script. Yeah, yeah, it's just amazing to
- 19:08Speaker 1: get all that and feeling and talking quickly and the
- 19:12Speaker 1: things that happened where it's just it's brilliant. And I
- 19:16Speaker 1: felt badly that to go back to the art episode,
- 19:19Speaker 1: that's the only episode that won an Emmy was the
- 19:22Speaker 1: makeup and costume for the um for the Festival Living Art,
- 19:27Speaker 1: where you know, Amy and certainly Lauren and you and
- 19:31Speaker 1: Alexis certainly should have been I'm much more acknowledged. You know,
- 19:35Speaker 1: that's the way life is. But you know there's also
- 19:38Speaker 1: on the c W. I don't know if that had
- 19:40Speaker 1: anything to do with it, but show do you think
- 19:42Speaker 1: that was I mean, obviously the work was there, there
- 19:45Speaker 1: was no question about it. And I've never seen the episodes,
- 19:48Speaker 1: I mean, uh, and now that I'm watching them, I
- 19:51Speaker 1: I I am continually shocked that the show was overlooked
- 19:54Speaker 1: for the performances. So why do you think that was?
- 19:58Speaker 1: I don't know if people only treated the big networks
- 20:01Speaker 1: a certain way, and I mean they certainly cable network.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Cable shows were winning Emmy, So I don't know why
- 20:07Speaker 1: on the CW couldn't be acknowledged as a great show.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Because one time, I I think it was in Luke's
- 20:14Speaker 1: in the diner, I was law Lauren had a scene
- 20:18Speaker 1: and she was doing just talking right to the camera,
- 20:20Speaker 1: but I somehow set up said the line before that,
- 20:23Speaker 1: so I had to still be in the room or something,
- 20:25Speaker 1: and I just watched her talking to camera. I thought,
- 20:28Speaker 1: first of all, I'm never gonna be as good an
- 20:30Speaker 1: actor as Lauren Graham. But she is so good that
- 20:34Speaker 1: I can't believe everyone isn't aware of this, like the
- 20:36Speaker 1: just the way. I don't have an answer for why
- 20:40Speaker 1: there was it was overlooked. The writing was overlooked, the
- 20:43Speaker 1: acting was overlooked. It's not a crime, but it's a crime.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Do you do you think it's because it was just
- 20:48Speaker 1: too family orientated to light to might have been. It
- 20:56Speaker 1: might not have been edgy enough to it's like two
- 21:00Speaker 1: family friendly almost, which is, you know, great for ratings
- 21:03Speaker 1: and ads and commercials and that kind of thing, but
- 21:05Speaker 1: too safe sweet Yeah, like yeah to to not someone's
- 21:10Speaker 1: dying or someone's you know, there's not a zombie going
- 21:12Speaker 1: to come out of nowhere some weird reality. Yeah, it
- 21:19Speaker 1: wasn't edgy. I don't know what you know when people go,
- 21:21Speaker 1: I'm writing this edgy show about these people who are
- 21:23Speaker 1: bitter and angry, and it wasn't. It didn't have that.
- 21:26Speaker 1: It had a sweetness to it, but it's hard to
- 21:28Speaker 1: say when people you know, obviously people love it now
- 21:32Speaker 1: and you know on Netflix that's obviously very often watched.
- 21:37Speaker 1: But it wasn't. I don't have an answer for why
- 21:41Speaker 1: people watch what they watched and that it was. It
- 21:44Speaker 1: was unfortunate because it should have been more acknowledged. Then
- 21:47Speaker 1: it's one of those things. Yeah, Um, behind the scene
- 21:50Speaker 1: politics that we're unaware of. You know, what's what's going
- 21:53Speaker 1: on behind the curtain there? We will never know. Um,
- 21:58Speaker 1: So let's get a little bit more specific. Let's talk
- 22:01Speaker 1: about the scene where Christopher comes in and gets his
- 22:03Speaker 1: credit card declined. Do you remember that scene? Can you
- 22:06Speaker 1: tell I do, because I remember panicking that they wouldn't
- 22:09Speaker 1: know one would tell me how to say Billy Credup's
- 22:11Speaker 1: name is Billy Credib? Is a Billy Credib there? Like,
- 22:14Speaker 1: I'm like, I have to say. This is gonna be
- 22:16Speaker 1: on film for the rest of my life. Can you
- 22:18Speaker 1: just tell me how to say Billy Credup? No crude up,
- 22:20Speaker 1: crude up credup? Just okay, now I have to say
- 22:23Speaker 1: his name and and uh but but I just had
- 22:29Speaker 1: to tell poor David self his card got declined. I
- 22:32Speaker 1: felt awful for him, and like I knew that I
- 22:36Speaker 1: knew it was sad, and I knew that it really
- 22:40Speaker 1: was an ox indijection and they're not heavy, but it
- 22:42Speaker 1: was like, I'm like, they couldn't just giving me an
- 22:44Speaker 1: empty box. I'm holding the forty pound box for five
- 22:47Speaker 1: cakes Like you gotta keep it real man, Yeah, I
- 22:51Speaker 1: keep it. How bad is it when you see an
- 22:53Speaker 1: actor handling a full coffee cup and you can tell
- 22:56Speaker 1: there's nothing in it, or a suitcase with nothing in
- 22:58Speaker 1: it when it's supposed to be heavy as the how
- 23:01Speaker 1: every birthday present isn't really wrapped you just pulled the
- 23:03Speaker 1: top of a box off, and he went, someone couldn't
- 23:06Speaker 1: at least put it pieces gotch tape. Uh No. And
- 23:09Speaker 1: also I'm not a good enough actor, so I needed
- 23:11Speaker 1: them to hand you a real box, so I would
- 23:12Speaker 1: have in fact, wasn't. When your uncle on the show
- 23:17Speaker 1: died and we had the little Marching band and I
- 23:20Speaker 1: was playing a drum, we went up to the thing
- 23:22Speaker 1: and we had to play play a thing. Kurt played
- 23:25Speaker 1: the trumpet, Shawn Gunna play the trumpet, and I was
- 23:27Speaker 1: playing a drum. And the first take I broke the
- 23:30Speaker 1: drum and I go, I've broken the drum. Can you
- 23:33Speaker 1: give me another drum? They went, you don't have more drums.
- 23:37Speaker 1: You have to think it. So my hand kept going
- 23:41Speaker 1: through the drum skin, and I'm like trying to remember
- 23:44Speaker 1: where the top of the drum was on camera. So
- 23:49Speaker 1: we don't have another drum. Uh And I do not
- 23:55Speaker 1: remember that episode. My god, you'll you'll get to and
- 24:00Speaker 1: you'll see you that I broke the drumhead of the
- 24:01Speaker 1: first take. Laugh. So what else can you remember about
- 24:06Speaker 1: that episode? Since we're discussing Christopher's return, what can you
- 24:09Speaker 1: remember that? Because you had really the that was that
- 24:12Speaker 1: the only scene you had only seen I had, and
- 24:15Speaker 1: I was I was with Jackson. The whole time we
- 24:18Speaker 1: were talking, most of you were goroofing around, who I love.
- 24:20Speaker 1: I love Jackson. I don't know if he's done in
- 24:22Speaker 1: the show, but he's great fun and uh so we
- 24:25Speaker 1: were goofing around, laughing and then comparing whether he was
- 24:28Speaker 1: Billy Crudup or Billy Crudup and and then he uh uh.
- 24:34Speaker 1: It was actually one of the shorter days because usually
- 24:36Speaker 1: I've done the show and I was busy talking. You know,
- 24:39Speaker 1: a town meeting would be twelve hours, so I was like,
- 24:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna hear it only for two hours? What do
- 24:43Speaker 1: I What did I do with the rest of my life?
- 24:45Speaker 1: I thought I thought I'd be there all night. But
- 24:49Speaker 1: it was just a fun quick day and I got
- 24:51Speaker 1: to do my little uh credit card decline, which you know,
- 24:55Speaker 1: somehow people still remember that about me, that I had
- 24:57Speaker 1: to decline Chris credit card. Well, it's nice they remember
- 25:01Speaker 1: it because the acting was good. Because you were so
- 25:05Speaker 1: sensitive and you you're sitting here trashing your acting ability,
- 25:08Speaker 1: but you you knew to not say it, even in
- 25:13Speaker 1: a normal room tone. You whispered it to him because
- 25:16Speaker 1: you wanted to spare him the embarrassment embarrassment and that
- 25:19Speaker 1: that made people love you so well. It was just
- 25:22Speaker 1: the funny party I wanted to the opposite of Usually
- 25:25Speaker 1: a lot of TV shows, certainly was a lot of
- 25:26Speaker 1: sitcoms I've washed in life. Would he'd got on the
- 25:29Speaker 1: microphone and go, you know, price check on the O
- 25:31Speaker 1: E ed you know, and I went, well, how can
- 25:33Speaker 1: I do the exact opposite of that? So I and
- 25:36Speaker 1: I didn't mean to trash all my acting abilities, just
- 25:38Speaker 1: that I never thought of myself that, you know, I'm
- 25:40Speaker 1: like just having to be on the show and goofing around.
- 25:42Speaker 1: But it was just just a you know a little
- 25:44Speaker 1: fun thing on what Well, I'm not gonna go Chris,
- 25:47Speaker 1: your card was declined exact opposite. Um, you know, maybe
- 26:00Speaker 1: sure the second take, Um, but you handled it with
- 26:06Speaker 1: real Uh you're a real gentleman about it. I mean you,
- 26:09Speaker 1: but that's the small town value that that viewers expect,
- 26:12Speaker 1: like you're not gonna embarrass somebody. But it would have
- 26:15Speaker 1: been funny. It would have liked you very much, but
- 26:17Speaker 1: it was it was a great choice. Um, what did
- 26:22Speaker 1: you think about Christopher's character? I thought he was great.
- 26:28Speaker 1: I I because I hadn't watched I hadn't watched the
- 26:31Speaker 1: whole episode, and I hadn't really watched a lot of
- 26:33Speaker 1: the episodes, you know, like, so let's think about your show.
- 26:37Speaker 1: And I know there's the other show of on on
- 26:40Speaker 1: Clubhouse about John Colbert is watching the shows and for
- 26:43Speaker 1: the first time, it's kind of funny to watch them
- 26:46Speaker 1: and go, oh, these are great, not just the ones
- 26:48Speaker 1: I was in that I saw my card, but I
- 26:50Speaker 1: see the whole thing. But I missed in the first time,
- 26:55Speaker 1: and I had nothing to do with me watching all
- 26:57Speaker 1: him myself. But but it was so well put together.
- 27:01Speaker 1: He's such a good character that you wanted more of him,
- 27:04Speaker 1: and you fully understood why he couldn't keep being on
- 27:07Speaker 1: the show. But it was just like all the moments
- 27:11Speaker 1: and you know, like I said, they're sleeping together and
- 27:15Speaker 1: it should have had a second kid, but just even
- 27:18Speaker 1: not showing up for you and just oh and then
- 27:21Speaker 1: she came back to the dinner that morning in her pajamas.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I was just like, Oh, everything came together. I don't.
- 27:27Speaker 1: I just am so impressed by how the show came
- 27:31Speaker 1: together all the time, and it didn't break your heart.
- 27:34Speaker 1: But it broke here. It it got you, like, it
- 27:38Speaker 1: just grabbed you. That's why I finally, you know, I
- 27:41Speaker 1: see all the time on the show. Yeah, poor pathetical Luke.
- 27:50Speaker 1: All right, I'm telling you that, Eide, I'm telling you, Mike,
- 27:56Speaker 1: that episode let me up. It was such a rama rama.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Don't you think it was a little it was a
- 28:03Speaker 1: little Telemundo esque. Not the Telemundo is bad. I love it.
- 28:08Speaker 1: I love those the passion of those of the writing
- 28:11Speaker 1: and the acting. But I mean, it really was. It
- 28:13Speaker 1: got fraught with you know, there was physic physical almost
- 28:18Speaker 1: physical violence. There was confrontation. There was was gonna punch
- 28:22Speaker 1: a guy. He was gonna punch of It's gonna Deckham.
- 28:26Speaker 1: There was it was, it had I don't I don't
- 28:29Speaker 1: even know if this makes sense, but there's it just
- 28:31Speaker 1: kept it kept moving and kept raising the stakes and
- 28:36Speaker 1: everything kept happening. And I went, how did this show
- 28:39Speaker 1: not how did how did Christopher Returns not be an
- 28:42Speaker 1: episode where people turned it in and said, this is
- 28:44Speaker 1: an episode that you should watch and this should get
- 28:47Speaker 1: an Emmy and people should know these characters and then
- 28:50Speaker 1: and love this show. And and it certainly already had
- 28:54Speaker 1: its flooting it. By the fifteenth episode of the first season,
- 28:56Speaker 1: it was just it was all there, all the Yeah,
- 29:00Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I guess we'll have to do another
- 29:03Speaker 1: seven seasons and drive the point home. What do you
- 29:09Speaker 1: think where Amy can? Amy can? Can she call? Is
- 29:13Speaker 1: she gonna? Is she gonna? She has your number? Tell
- 29:15Speaker 1: her to tell him? Tell her? You're ready? Seven more seasons?
- 29:19Speaker 1: Seven more? So okay, so let me let me just
- 29:22Speaker 1: ask you this because I like to ask this question
- 29:25Speaker 1: and because this is really a fan generated question. So
- 29:28Speaker 1: this is from Sarah um from Little Rock. She wanted
- 29:34Speaker 1: to know, Mike, what is your favorite memory of Gilmore? Well,
- 29:41Speaker 1: I tell the story. I feel like I've told the
- 29:43Speaker 1: story a lot. But the disaster of having to remove
- 29:47Speaker 1: all my body hair for the art episode was does
- 29:50Speaker 1: That was the nightmare. If you don't mind, I'll tell
- 29:55Speaker 1: it one last time. But because I where's the camera
- 29:59Speaker 1: like I have, I'm not lacking in body hair my arms,
- 30:03Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't know what to do. I
- 30:06Speaker 1: didn't know what to do because I've never removed body hair.
- 30:11Speaker 1: So they say, well, you can do a lot of things,
- 30:13Speaker 1: you know, there's waxing or shaving or whatever, and they,
- 30:17Speaker 1: so I bought a bottle of nare, which I don't
- 30:22Speaker 1: know if anyone knows this. It's not pleasant, but hang on,
- 30:29Speaker 1: so it grows you on the bottle. It was near neat.
- 30:31Speaker 1: I don't mean to single out one brand. There was
- 30:34Speaker 1: a brand. Yeah, So I put a little bit on
- 30:40Speaker 1: my arm and it tells you and then you leave
- 30:41Speaker 1: it for five minutes. You take a wash off and
- 30:43Speaker 1: you wipe it off and then it works and if
- 30:45Speaker 1: it works, they go, great, you're fine. So it works
- 30:49Speaker 1: perfectly in five minutes. So I then cover my arm
- 30:52Speaker 1: and neat or near whatever it is leather arm and
- 30:56Speaker 1: of course it makes my apartment stink, but no offense
- 31:00Speaker 1: to their brand. And then I wipe wipe it off
- 31:03Speaker 1: and it's but I had to do my entire from
- 31:05Speaker 1: the waist up. Well, since I did it all it
- 31:10Speaker 1: was it made my skin like burn and bubble and scab,
- 31:17Speaker 1: so so I couldn't And then this is like just
- 31:21Speaker 1: before the episodes taping it, so they told me to
- 31:23Speaker 1: come in for a makeup test to do the white
- 31:25Speaker 1: statue makeup. Well, I had nowhere in my body that
- 31:29Speaker 1: didn't have blisters, so I couldn't even make the test,
- 31:32Speaker 1: so I'm like, I don't know what you're doing. I
- 31:34Speaker 1: can't do, but I do have no body hair from
- 31:38Speaker 1: the waist up, so at least I've got that. So
- 31:42Speaker 1: I finally like, I have two or three more days
- 31:45Speaker 1: since from the makeup test of the day, I'm taping
- 31:47Speaker 1: the show and I take the show. It was a
- 31:50Speaker 1: Friday night, but it's my call time was basically twelve
- 31:53Speaker 1: thirty Saturday morning because they're gonna shoot till like six
- 31:55Speaker 1: in the morning on Saturday morning, and they have to
- 31:58Speaker 1: paint me with first white paint and then black paint
- 32:01Speaker 1: and make it marbled. And it's but I can't, Like
- 32:06Speaker 1: my skin is kind of repaired, but it's not really repaired,
- 32:08Speaker 1: like it's still blisters. But they can't. They can't. It's freezing.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Also in Burbing that maxis a dessert and it's I'm
- 32:18Speaker 1: but they can't move in by a heater because they'll
- 32:20Speaker 1: make the paint melt and they can't put a jacket
- 32:22Speaker 1: with the jacket will take the paint off, and they
- 32:24Speaker 1: can't put anything on me. So I'm sort of freezing
- 32:28Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm painted. It took like two or
- 32:32Speaker 1: three people to paint the white and then paint the
- 32:34Speaker 1: black and paint the marbling, and then I have to
- 32:36Speaker 1: wear a I wore a head thing, so and I go,
- 32:40Speaker 1: I I swear I'm not a diva. I swear I'm
- 32:42Speaker 1: trying not to be high maintenance, but I couldn't. I
- 32:45Speaker 1: sort of stand by a heater just enough that the
- 32:48Speaker 1: paint doesn't mount, and they're like, no, because the paint will.
- 32:51Speaker 1: I'm like okay. And then they finally shot my shot
- 32:55Speaker 1: um just before sunrise, like you know, I get like
- 32:59Speaker 1: five forty five am or something. I finally do the
- 33:02Speaker 1: shot and they let me warm up by eating the
- 33:05Speaker 1: chili that was on a craft service, so that was
- 33:06Speaker 1: they did help out um, and then it took like
- 33:10Speaker 1: an hour for them. It took like two or three
- 33:12Speaker 1: people to take baby wipe, to take all the makeup
- 33:14Speaker 1: off and so but oddly it's one of those things
- 33:20Speaker 1: that was moderately unpleasant time and yet now it's the
- 33:23Speaker 1: greatest memory to have been. But it was what did
- 33:32Speaker 1: you do? I think that's when Cambell said. I got
- 33:37Speaker 1: that because I took her to the beacrom class, so
- 33:43Speaker 1: otherwise I sat in town meeting. So really it was
- 33:45Speaker 1: a fun it was a fun, fun memory to do
- 33:48Speaker 1: something different. You know, you break up your break up
- 33:50Speaker 1: your memories by having something fun, right right, right? Um,
- 33:54Speaker 1: this is a little segment we do where we use
- 33:57Speaker 1: one I want you to use one word to describe
- 34:01Speaker 1: the following characters. You ready, Okay? Here we go. Uh Luke?
- 34:07Speaker 1: Uh god, I want to say no no cell phones.
- 34:09Speaker 1: He was the boss. He was it's a boss. Look
- 34:13Speaker 1: at yeah. Alright, but you ran this, I mean you were.
- 34:17Speaker 1: You didn't run the town because that was tandard, but
- 34:19Speaker 1: like you, you were in charge of like the different attitude.
- 34:22Speaker 1: You know, even in the reboot when you're like talking
- 34:25Speaker 1: about the floaty hut and you're yelling and like you
- 34:28Speaker 1: when we were, people are all voting on who to
- 34:29Speaker 1: do things that it's our relationship, dot yours, not yours,
- 34:32Speaker 1: not yours, not yours. Don't mess with Luke? Alright, you
- 34:38Speaker 1: like it? Uh miss Patty? Oh? Fun Christopher? Oh he
- 34:46Speaker 1: couldn't declined? Taylor Dozi? Who Taylor Dozi? Oh? Yuh surly
- 35:03Speaker 1: bad bad wacky Laurela the sweet I should have all
- 35:14Speaker 1: seen you sweet for her, but she was so earnest Kirk,
- 35:19Speaker 1: there's there's a hyphenated offbeat. Uh, Mrs Kim rigid in
- 35:27Speaker 1: her beliefs. She has some from right and wrongness rules
- 35:33Speaker 1: all right? Now, So now, Mike, we are entering our
- 35:37Speaker 1: rapid fire the evening. Yes, are you ready? So I'm
- 35:40Speaker 1: gonna fire some questions at you and you answer them
- 35:43Speaker 1: best you can. How do you take your coffee? Never
- 35:47Speaker 1: had coffee in my life? Can you smell snow? Yes?
- 35:51Speaker 1: Are you? Team logan? Jess Or Dane asked, why not?
- 36:02Speaker 1: Who's the daddy? I'm going Paul. Everyone forgot about Paul,
- 36:07Speaker 1: and I think even Rory forgot Paul was the dad Paul.
- 36:12Speaker 1: He was the guy who was forgotten in the episode
- 36:15Speaker 1: that every forgot he was dating, and he was she
- 36:16Speaker 1: dated him in the reboot and and he was there
- 36:19Speaker 1: and they all forgot he was even the person. I
- 36:21Speaker 1: say it, that's perfect. I love That's the best answer
- 36:24Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, Ted Ted Rooney gave a really
- 36:28Speaker 1: great answer because he just said, I don't even want
- 36:30Speaker 1: to get involved in that. It's creepy, but but that
- 36:33Speaker 1: was really good. Paul Um, we already answered this best
- 36:39Speaker 1: memory show you you're binge watching right now. I'm just
- 36:45Speaker 1: keeping up on it. But Ted Lasso is great and
- 36:48Speaker 1: some going back and rewatching him. So Ted Lassett cast
- 36:52Speaker 1: member you texted most recently probably Reney Bell, but also
- 36:58Speaker 1: they weren't cast members with the real Dave Dawski and
- 37:01Speaker 1: I are friends, and his wife, Helen Pie, we're friends.
- 37:04Speaker 1: And you know Helen Pie's name is the anagram for
- 37:07Speaker 1: help alien. Oh really? Um? Are you familiar with the
- 37:13Speaker 1: creepy clown pillow? But I want one now? Um? You
- 37:25Speaker 1: know what I didn't ask you. I want to ask you,
- 37:27Speaker 1: so that's rapid fire, but I didn't ask you. How
- 37:29Speaker 1: would you describe the character of Andrew? This is another
- 37:31Speaker 1: fan question. This is the uh Corine Karine Karine from
- 37:38Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. Okay, well, it's difficult because I I
- 37:42Speaker 1: actually worked in two bookstores in life, so being a
- 37:45Speaker 1: bookstore employee, I totally got but I and it's not
- 37:49Speaker 1: as my own when it really the reason Like in
- 37:51Speaker 1: one of the episodes when when Jas was first introduced,
- 37:54Speaker 1: I said, my son said he set off the fire
- 37:57Speaker 1: alarms at school. And I had a son that has
- 37:59Speaker 1: just appeared. So I had a son, So I don't
- 38:03Speaker 1: know about that. I mean I had the UH and
- 38:07Speaker 1: I had the girlfriend in the dance episode who we
- 38:09Speaker 1: got to fight because she dated Liam Neeson? But I,
- 38:13Speaker 1: I wait a minute in the script, yeah, because I
- 38:29Speaker 1: I screamed, they said they set it up, and Andrew
- 38:31Speaker 1: woids a fight with his girlfriend at the dance marathon
- 38:34Speaker 1: and then we get to fight. Me and my my
- 38:37Speaker 1: date in the episode Lisa, and she said what I
- 38:40Speaker 1: don't I forget what I said, but to b and
- 38:43Speaker 1: I said, no, I can't stand Liam Neeson. And I
- 38:46Speaker 1: left because apparently my date had once dated Liam Neeson.
- 38:48Speaker 1: But but you think would be a more of a story.
- 38:51Speaker 1: You're almost a whole spinoff shell right there. But oh,
- 39:01Speaker 1: so you know I had I had the one date
- 39:04Speaker 1: ever leose. So but we've got in a fight, and otherwise,
- 39:07Speaker 1: you know, he was just as the town meeting guy
- 39:10Speaker 1: in the bookstore guy. So I tried to give him
- 39:13Speaker 1: some some gentle sweetness. But otherwise I don't I don't
- 39:19Speaker 1: have much more backstory for him. Who are your big
- 39:22Speaker 1: influences as a writer? Who did you who did you
- 39:25Speaker 1: Who did you love growing up? Who did you read?
- 39:27Speaker 1: Who influenced you the most? Well? I watched way too
- 39:30Speaker 1: much TV, so like I love David Lloyd who's the
- 39:33Speaker 1: guy who wrote Chunk as the clown the show there's
- 39:35Speaker 1: a clown episode of Marytime to more episode? Like I
- 39:37Speaker 1: wanted to be David Lloyd. I wanted to write sitcoms
- 39:40Speaker 1: and write jokes and even as when I did comedy,
- 39:43Speaker 1: when I did stand up, I you know, I I
- 39:46Speaker 1: was fine, but I really was sitting around going, well,
- 39:49Speaker 1: I'm doing stand up hoping someone will see me, and saying,
- 39:51Speaker 1: you should be writing on a TV show. But that
- 39:53Speaker 1: doesn't happen when you're in the middle of, like doing
- 39:55Speaker 1: a show in oh Claire, Wisconsin. There's not gonna be
- 39:58Speaker 1: a producer going what are you doing here? Go? You know?
- 40:01Speaker 1: So um, you know. I finally got myself to Hollywood
- 40:04Speaker 1: anyway and did it myself. But I just always watched
- 40:07Speaker 1: TV shows like it was sort of weird. I went
- 40:10Speaker 1: to I went to Kaddy because I was a little kid,
- 40:12Speaker 1: and one time the teacher said, you can't just spend
- 40:15Speaker 1: your time watching TV. And I was a little kid.
- 40:17Speaker 1: I was being a wise guy but sort of meant it.
- 40:19Speaker 1: I went, what if you want to work on TV shows?
- 40:25Speaker 1: I guess I don't have an argument for you, wise guy,
- 40:27Speaker 1: but you know, so so I was watching TV show
- 40:30Speaker 1: with my like nwe like David Lloyd, who you know
- 40:33Speaker 1: writing TV sitcoms, and Bob Ellison was the the guy
- 40:36Speaker 1: who wrote on Marriage, how to Moore and wrote sitcoms,
- 40:37Speaker 1: and I'm like those guys. I wanted to be like them.
- 40:41Speaker 1: So those were your favorite shows? I mean I watched
- 40:44Speaker 1: them all, but I you know, I loved all in
- 40:45Speaker 1: the Family and Marriage had a more Bob Newhart did
- 40:47Speaker 1: I say that twice? Um? And you know, but I
- 40:50Speaker 1: wished happy days and work in Mindy and on and
- 40:52Speaker 1: on through through all the shows. And then when I
- 40:55Speaker 1: got to work on Roseanne, I went, wait, I'm I'm
- 40:58Speaker 1: writing on the number one show. How can I when
- 41:00Speaker 1: I do? I'm writing on his TV show? And so
- 41:03Speaker 1: you know, it's it was kind of a fun getting
- 41:06Speaker 1: to do what you want to do. And then I now,
- 41:09Speaker 1: now I sit and write scripts. And but what was
- 41:12Speaker 1: she like? What was Roseanne like to work with? I
- 41:15Speaker 1: loved her like people. It's weird because she knew she
- 41:19Speaker 1: knew her character so well that the writers would be like,
- 41:21Speaker 1: here's a joke. She'd go, now, that's not I wouldn't
- 41:24Speaker 1: say that, and then they'd be back in the room
- 41:25Speaker 1: going why mun't you do the things we're writing, And
- 41:28Speaker 1: I'm like, she's not wrong. She her character knows. She
- 41:32Speaker 1: knows that she wouldn't say that, so I like, it
- 41:36Speaker 1: was weird that people would complain, but I went, she
- 41:39Speaker 1: knows the character better than we do. No offense. But
- 41:41Speaker 1: so if she says, well, I wouldn't say that, she
- 41:43Speaker 1: wouldn't say it. And that's but it's mostly the best
- 41:47Speaker 1: lesson I learned was her name was on the cover
- 41:50Speaker 1: of the script, so everything dealt with how she how
- 41:53Speaker 1: it affected Like I just talked about that the other
- 41:55Speaker 1: day to someone that Dan and Darlene fighting. They could
- 41:59Speaker 1: fight on any t show, but on Roseanne, their fight
- 42:02Speaker 1: was how it affects Roseanne. So it made you remember
- 42:06Speaker 1: the show is through Roseanne's eyes. It's through a way
- 42:09Speaker 1: of seeing the show through the stars, saying not just
- 42:12Speaker 1: a family sitcom and dad and daughter are doing this
- 42:15Speaker 1: and dad wants DJ to be this. It wasn't it
- 42:18Speaker 1: was how does this affect this? The star of the show.
- 42:23Speaker 1: And it's sort of a good lesson to remember how
- 42:25Speaker 1: to write characters, and even as a joke, right, it
- 42:27Speaker 1: was much easier write for a strong character like Dennis
- 42:30Speaker 1: Miller than it was for a a guy who just
- 42:33Speaker 1: goes send me some jokes. You go, I don't know
- 42:35Speaker 1: anything about you, so how you just wanted to say
- 42:38Speaker 1: something wacky and funny. But it's easier with a character
- 42:40Speaker 1: like Dennis Miller or Roseanne right who they are. Once
- 42:45Speaker 1: you know who they are, it's much easier and much
- 42:47Speaker 1: more fun. Anyway, it's been fun, and it's really been
- 42:53Speaker 1: It's been really great catching up with you, and we'd
- 42:55Speaker 1: love to have you back on. I can already. I
- 42:57Speaker 1: can hear the producers laughing through the whole interviews. So
- 43:02Speaker 1: but I'm glad it's talk to you and enjoy enjoy
- 43:04Speaker 1: washing the rest of shows, and I'll come back anytime
- 43:06Speaker 1: you need. All right, buddy, be well, good luck with
- 43:09Speaker 1: your projects. Let me know how I can help in anyway,
- 43:13Speaker 1: and uh, definitely, and we'll be in touch then. Okay,
- 43:20Speaker 1: all right, Well that was fun. That was Mike Gan Dolphie.
- 43:23Speaker 1: It was great having him on. Hope to have been
- 43:24Speaker 1: back on pretty soon. Um, so we'll be back after
- 43:28Speaker 1: these works. Yeah. We are joined by Lauren Wong, who
- 43:34Speaker 1: is the CEO and founder of Flex. Lauren, can you
- 43:38Speaker 1: just start by telling us what is Flex. Yeah. Flex
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- 48:46Speaker 1: tell you something that Mike Gandolfie is one of verbose
- 48:51Speaker 1: individual with some excellent verbosity coming out of his face. Funny.
- 49:00Speaker 1: That's a great memories too, great memories that guy, That guy,
- 49:05Speaker 1: my god, now you know. Now it brings back all
- 49:08Speaker 1: those memories of of hanging with him on the set
- 49:10Speaker 1: because he was he was very quiet on set. He
- 49:14Speaker 1: wasn't like that, probably because he just was so like
- 49:17Speaker 1: happy to be there but didn't want to like overstep.
- 49:19Speaker 1: He seems like that kind of guy. His nair neat story,
- 49:25Speaker 1: it's just and he was so careful not to offend
- 49:29Speaker 1: the nare and meet people. But he was using his uh,
- 49:33Speaker 1: his his his hard, hard gotten, hard fought gotten. If
- 49:40Speaker 1: that's a phrase comedy chops on the road doing stand
- 49:44Speaker 1: up telling that story, man, because that's not your average
- 49:47Speaker 1: kind of storyteller. Man. He had me in tears. He
- 49:50Speaker 1: I couldn't even speak. I imagine how funny he is
- 49:53Speaker 1: his standard routine. Oh my god, Yeah, he's great. It's
- 49:58Speaker 1: just the quality of his his presentation, his vocal quality,
- 50:03Speaker 1: the way he's telling that story. Well, that's the thing
- 50:06Speaker 1: that I'm so excited as we meet these people, because
- 50:09Speaker 1: even the small characters are played by these amazing people,
- 50:16Speaker 1: and that seems like a very Gilmore thing. It is,
- 50:20Speaker 1: what a funny guy. How do you feel about playing
- 50:22Speaker 1: baseball or softball? I guess it was yeah. I mean
- 50:26Speaker 1: I remember that day we we played far more softball
- 50:30Speaker 1: than ended up on screen. So yeah, it was fun.
- 50:34Speaker 1: And Kirk Kirk the heckler, the zero, so he referred
- 50:39Speaker 1: to us as zero Luke and zero zero Dean and
- 50:45Speaker 1: then he just ran away. Oh it's just classic that
- 50:48Speaker 1: he was just heckling the crap out of us. It
- 50:50Speaker 1: was so great. That was That was one of Kirk's
- 50:53Speaker 1: finer moments so far. I think I kept noticing there
- 50:57Speaker 1: was like a young girl. Extra. What's the other word
- 51:01Speaker 1: for extra? Um? Yeah's extra the right word. I don't
- 51:05Speaker 1: want to say the wrong word. But and she just
- 51:08Speaker 1: was so adorable and kept just a straight face. And
- 51:12Speaker 1: well he's doing that riving of you guys, and I'm like, God,
- 51:17Speaker 1: the thing is, what is Luke gonna do? I mean,
- 51:20Speaker 1: he's not gonna you know, he's not gonna assault him.
- 51:24Speaker 1: All right, that's it. I've had enough. And then looking
- 51:26Speaker 1: put a Richard Gilmore on him and grab him by
- 51:28Speaker 1: the lapel. Maybe does any any television moment last? We
- 51:33Speaker 1: haven't talked about that, Laura. I didn't show up to
- 51:38Speaker 1: do the paint at the diner just to do the sprucing.
- 51:42Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Yeah, we'll get to that,
- 51:45Speaker 1: but one minor and you know, you could you could
- 51:49Speaker 1: just set me straight on this. You could settle my
- 51:51Speaker 1: wagon on this one. He lives. I thought he lived
- 51:55Speaker 1: above the diner, I know, and he was walking, Yes,
- 51:59Speaker 1: why was walking in the early morning and opening up
- 52:03Speaker 1: the place? What does he have to come down and around?
- 52:06Speaker 1: But no, because later they definitely come through those stairs,
- 52:11Speaker 1: you know, maybe who was Maybe it was an early
- 52:13Speaker 1: morning walk. Yeah, I don't know that they realized maybe
- 52:18Speaker 1: he was coming from laurelized house where he was in
- 52:20Speaker 1: the bushes. He's looking in the windows like anyway that
- 52:27Speaker 1: that's but I thought it worked for the scene for sure. Yeah,
- 52:30Speaker 1: but it's a good point for like actual correctness. But
- 52:35Speaker 1: maybe we don't we don't learn until later that because
- 52:39Speaker 1: really that stands out when Jess shows up, When Jess's
- 52:43Speaker 1: shows up, we really learned that they live upstairs, so
- 52:48Speaker 1: we will wait, Oh, this is probably another answer. The
- 52:52Speaker 1: fans already know and they're gonna shower me with emails like, dumbass,
- 52:57Speaker 1: we already know this, and don't you know this? And
- 52:59Speaker 1: Jesus do your research, your dumbass listen, I'm just watching
- 53:05Speaker 1: it for the first time. Can you please spare it's
- 53:08Speaker 1: a valid yeah, because if you've only watched the episodes
- 53:13Speaker 1: we've watched, we don't really know where he lives yet.
- 53:17Speaker 1: I think we're hindsight that we know later he lives
- 53:20Speaker 1: up there. So why the hell is he walking down
- 53:23Speaker 1: the side, walking on down the boulevard, keys swinging his keys?
- 53:32Speaker 1: Am I messing this? Upper? Was there a scene where
- 53:34Speaker 1: you were waiting for her and then at night? Yeah,
- 53:38Speaker 1: outside your own diner. That's very dramatic when you just
- 53:44Speaker 1: wait in the chair inside with a cup of corps,
- 53:45Speaker 1: because it gave me the opportunity to act this finality
- 53:50Speaker 1: of that moment and sort of go in and give
- 53:53Speaker 1: up and locked the door. So that was more important
- 53:56Speaker 1: than nosy continuity annoyers. You know. You know. Two questions.
- 54:03Speaker 1: Was she wearing I Love Lucy pajamas when she showed
- 54:07Speaker 1: up in the pajamas? Can we do a zoom in
- 54:11Speaker 1: on that. I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of Lucy.
- 54:15Speaker 1: And how did you feel when you realize she painted
- 54:19Speaker 1: the whole place? He had already figured out that they
- 54:22Speaker 1: had done the deed right, yes, because you already him
- 54:27Speaker 1: that in not such a direct way. But that was
- 54:29Speaker 1: when she was in the pajamas. He put two and
- 54:32Speaker 1: two together. That's a that's a tough one. I mean, yeah,
- 54:36Speaker 1: I recall really struggling with it because it's like, and
- 54:41Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you talk about being at the
- 54:45Speaker 1: bottom of of your feelings, they're in a situation. Mean,
- 54:49Speaker 1: good God, how devastating that you know he came back
- 54:53Speaker 1: and they slept together and he knew it, and it's
- 54:56Speaker 1: just yeah, it's rough because it was right as Luke
- 55:00Speaker 1: and Laura were having that that moment and then and
- 55:03Speaker 1: then he comes in. It's painted or halfway or three
- 55:06Speaker 1: quarters painted, and it's maybe all done. That's when you
- 55:09Speaker 1: find out though, that Christopher is gone, because he said,
- 55:12Speaker 1: where's the guy? Yeah, I had to play all that stuff.
- 55:17Speaker 1: So it's like grief and devastation two acceptance too. It's
- 55:22Speaker 1: like I had to go through the five stages, but
- 55:24Speaker 1: it's like in reverse, like, hey, there's there's there's still
- 55:29Speaker 1: some hope here, I mean, poor guy. Yeah, So it's
- 55:32Speaker 1: Luke relieved to find out that Christopher has gone. Um, yeah,
- 55:37Speaker 1: for sure, but now he's got to deal with the
- 55:40Speaker 1: fact that she she went there with him, you know,
- 55:44Speaker 1: so there's that the residual effects of that that are
- 55:47Speaker 1: you known, have to clean up that mess because that's
- 55:49Speaker 1: going to psychologically be I mean, it's devastating. Yeah, it
- 55:53Speaker 1: don't take a while to get back to you know.
- 55:56Speaker 1: Now now I think it puts her on different footing
- 55:59Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, you know, this train was going
- 56:02Speaker 1: in in the right direction and it stopped and now
- 56:06Speaker 1: it's going backwards, and maybe it's the train is he's
- 56:08Speaker 1: taken out of service using a train analogy. I swear
- 56:12Speaker 1: I won't use a tunnel. There won't be a tunnel
- 56:14Speaker 1: on this analogy. She says when she's there in the pajamas,
- 56:19Speaker 1: we had a date, and Luke says, it wasn't a date,
- 56:23Speaker 1: it was it was just a thing. He's he's downplaying
- 56:26Speaker 1: it already. It wasn't he's doing that protection. Yeah, yeah,
- 56:32Speaker 1: I get why the walls are up. Luke has to
- 56:36Speaker 1: have the walls up because look at what keeps happening.
- 56:39Speaker 1: And I also think he's it's like, you know, he's judging.
- 56:44Speaker 1: He's being hard on himself too, because like, guy, get
- 56:48Speaker 1: in the fight, get in there and get with her,
- 56:51Speaker 1: close the deal. What do you know she's moving fast
- 56:54Speaker 1: with like all these guys, get in there, you know,
- 56:57Speaker 1: be meaningful in her life, be impactful. So it's like
- 57:00Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah, I'm sure he's hurt, but it's
- 57:02Speaker 1: I think it's really a wake up call. It's like,
- 57:05Speaker 1: this is life and it's moving a little faster. And
- 57:07Speaker 1: she's from Hartford and she's a country club check and
- 57:11Speaker 1: you know she wants more than I have. You know
- 57:14Speaker 1: that I have to offer maybe, so it's like, get
- 57:16Speaker 1: in there and fight for her. I also think there's
- 57:19Speaker 1: something to what you've said before about the risk it
- 57:23Speaker 1: puts because of the friendship. And I do think she
- 57:26Speaker 1: salvaged the friendship by sneaking in and painting the diner.
- 57:31Speaker 1: She maybe didn't the relationship part is still screwy, but
- 57:35Speaker 1: she definitely fixed the friendship by doing that. It's a
- 57:39Speaker 1: good point, you know what we didn't talk about too much,
- 57:42Speaker 1: and we did touch on it obviously with the declined
- 57:45Speaker 1: What is going on with Christopher acting like he's successful
- 57:51Speaker 1: kind of alluding to that with Richard clearly were to
- 57:55Speaker 1: know that he's not successful because he couldn't even buy
- 57:58Speaker 1: the dictionary. Well, he's you know, he's getting older, right,
- 58:04Speaker 1: he's thirty two now, and he wants her back, like
- 58:12Speaker 1: he said, he he said, you're you're the girl. I said,
- 58:16Speaker 1: I've tried to date other girls and there's no magic,
- 58:18Speaker 1: and you're the magic and you're the one, and I
- 58:20Speaker 1: want you back. And that's why he couldn't wait, And
- 58:22Speaker 1: he waited the next day said I want to marry you.
- 58:25Speaker 1: So he's made up his mind. He's he's willing to
- 58:27Speaker 1: commit to that. But now it's like it's a different
- 58:29Speaker 1: equation as we've discussed. It's like, you know, how are
- 58:32Speaker 1: you going to provide? Can we trust you? I mean
- 58:34Speaker 1: it takes time. So he's treading water. He he really is.
- 58:37Speaker 1: And I think his his latest debacle in California. He's
- 58:43Speaker 1: hoping that she'll take him back and that Richard will
- 58:45Speaker 1: help him out. Yeah. So I think that was all
- 58:50Speaker 1: an attempt to reconcile and have everybody forgive and let's
- 58:54Speaker 1: come back as a family. And that was his sort
- 58:55Speaker 1: of master plan, and it wasn't well thought through. I'm
- 58:58Speaker 1: nervous for the next I didn't night dinner too, because
- 59:01Speaker 1: I don't see how you just bounce back from that
- 59:03Speaker 1: hot mess. And wasn't it interesting how delighted the Gilmore's were, Richard,
- 59:09Speaker 1: And I'm like, how delighted that Christopher returned? They were
- 59:12Speaker 1: so they were on their best manners. They were just
- 59:16Speaker 1: energized like I have never seen them. Yeah, why do
- 59:19Speaker 1: they love him so much? Because he's the right stock,
- 59:25Speaker 1: he's the right d NA, he's he gets it. He's
- 59:28Speaker 1: one of them, And no matter how much he's failed
- 59:31Speaker 1: or screwed up, Richard still thinks that he can, you know,
- 59:35Speaker 1: Richard can easily guide him and give him a job,
- 59:38Speaker 1: his insurance and set him up for the future and
- 59:41Speaker 1: save his daughter so that they can all come back
- 59:45Speaker 1: to the country club and have celebrations and birthdays together,
- 59:49Speaker 1: and you know, I have a normal life. I think
- 59:52Speaker 1: they there's there's still hold onto the illusion that Laurela
- 59:56Speaker 1: is going to come back and be the girl that
- 59:57Speaker 1: they raised. Yeah, and Emily tried to defend Strobe in
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: that kitchen scene with Rory, and then she just says
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: he's an ass And you know that redeemed her a
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: bit that scene. But you have to respect a little
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: bit what Strobe had to say. It was his opportunity
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: to get it off his chest because he's been thinking
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: about it for sixteen years. You just cannot even Strobe
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: could not predict that he wasn't he had That wasn't premeditated.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: It just came out of him. Yes, the inappropriateness though
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: that Rory was there was probably what was so, but
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: it didn't matter. He couldn't control himself. He absolutely he
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: probably wanted to and he probably discussed it with his wife,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: the Queen. Yes, she kept her mouth shut during that
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: mass that she was getting ahead, but she did not
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: look like she was looking forward to meeting to seeing Laurela.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: And right off the back lauraized making jokes and they're
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: not they're not helping our out. They're just like you
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: haven't changed at all having your Laurela. You know, this
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think Strobs an ass like Stroub sucks.
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: I want I appreciate your angle and wanting to sort
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: of try to make sense of that. And then I
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: just keep coming back to a lot of a lot
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: of words we can't say on this show. One that
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: starts with a d your father, you know, if I
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: put that, you know, I put a lot into my son,
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: you know, and and to see him growing and learning
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: and it's it's a wonderful thing. And then at sixteen,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: if that was all derailed by a pregnancy, and then
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: you still offered them the chance to, hey, you know,
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: we'll support you. Why don't you get married and we'll
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: support you and we'll and they decline that as well,
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: decline um, you know, and then they go off on
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: their own and and for the next sixteen years have
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: these you know, these difficult lives, albeit you know, successful
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: in their own what on their own right and that's
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: maybe their path. But it's tough for Stroke, but it's
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: tough for Richard, it's tough for Emily. It's oh my god,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: what they had and he was right. What do you
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: know how humiliated we were in front of our friends
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: and we still are. Families do have gross fights like that,
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: They do expectations, and it seems like they were both
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: only children, you know, I don't. I don't know that. Yeah,
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: it's an only child you have. You have one child,
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: you pour everything into her or him, and it doesn't
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: work out. It's it's it's you don't have two or
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: three other kids to lean on and go well, you know,
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: and be practical about it and say, well, they're not
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: all going to turn out, but if you have one,
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: you expect that one too. I mean, you don't expect
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: them to go off the rails like that. So I
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: don't know, it's gonna take it can take me some
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: time to recover from that scene. Yeah, I know, I
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: was deeply I was. I'm telling you how I couldn't.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: I couldn't get to sleep. I was tossing in turn,
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: my wife kicked me, and then you know what's just
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: said would you stop? Would you still? Did you tell
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: her why? But it was Strobe's fault. I couldn't. She
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: would have laughed in my face, she would go. And
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: then it is painful when Lorelai goes into the office
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: and Richard says, like, I defended it because it was
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: my name, and it's like, Richard, that's a real thing.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: That's a real thing, the Gilmore name. There's so many
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: little things in that scene too. Did you see Christopher's mother,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Christopher your tie, your tie? Like three times your tie,
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: your tie, just like different world they come from. It's
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: a it's all etiquette school for President Bush. His face
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: is too tiny for his head. I've never noticed that
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: about any Bushes. I Oh, you know what I wanted
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: to know what you thought is when Strobe says a
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: blue collar position about Laurelai working at the hotel. Our
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: son was bound for Princeton. Well, and she was top
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: of her class, as Richard said, So she was bound
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: for Harvard, Yale or Princeton, probably anywhere she wanted to go.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: It bothered me that the blue collar one. And and
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: Strobe says, you seduced him. Yeah, Strobe, Yeah, it's just
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: a dad who got his face rubbed in it for
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: too long, and he's he little lost control. That's his
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: whole life. His whole life blew up in front of
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: his eyes. His kid, his kid blew up in front
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: of his eyes. He never accepted it. He never. I mean,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. What kind of was
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: it that Strobe and and the Hayden's and Christopher hadn't
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: seen each other in sixteen years? I don't think so.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: I think he's seen that, he's seen them. It wasn't
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: like that. It's strange that they have no relationship with Rory. Well,
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: it looks like she hasn't really lost out too much
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: love and affection from Strobe and company. Yeah, I mean,
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: I do think you could argue, but I think Richard
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: and Emily are good grandparents. Yeah, they're trying. Strobe makes
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: the Gilmore's, Strobe and his wife make the Gilmore's look
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: like amazing, wonderful people. I mean, they took it to
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: a new level of yuck. Listen, this happened in my family.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: I mean not to get too personally here, but this this,
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: I understand the resentment this breeds. Um My. My father,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: you know, came from a long line of Harvard men.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: He really did. And you know, his his family tree
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: goes back to the signers of the Constitution and the
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: signers a Declaration Independence, and you know all of that stuff.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: I mean, they're blue blood like you wouldn't believe. And
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: he was My dad was the first Patterson male not
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: to go to Harvard. He ended up going to World
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: War Two, getting wounded and then going to Lafayette because
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: he had to stay near Philadelphia, where his family was,
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: because he had met my mother at eighteen, she got pregnant.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: He was twenty one, and they had they had, you know,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: he had to go to work. He went to college
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: on the g I bill, and afterwards he went to
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: work for Campbell sup in the area. He couldn't go
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: off to Harvard. He couldn't go off to do the
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: things that is. And he wasn't an only child a sister. Um.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: But I know what we went through as children, and
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: I know what my mom went through in the face
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: of these people because they saw her as is somehow
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: illegitimate and the person that ruined their son's life, who
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: had so much promise, and you know, he ended up
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: being a vice president of some very prestigious advertising agencies.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: So he did pretty well. Did your grandparents forgives him? Um? Yeah.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: He remained close with both of them till they both passed. Yeah,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: I think they did, but they never forgave her, and
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: they certainly, you know, kept us at arm's length. Yeah. Really,
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: so I lived this, I know what this breeding and
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: they and there were huge arguments Thanksgiving dinner at Christmas
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: because we would go over there twice a year for
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner and Christmas dinner. And my mother was very
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: liberal and my dad's side of the family was not,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: and they would argue over the Vietnam War and Nixon
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: and this, and I mean, and my mother would just
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: pound her fist on the table. And one one year, Um,
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: you know, she she said, we're leaving, Get up, we're gone,
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: and we just wanked. So the takeaway is that scene,
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: like you said, is accurate, shockingly accurate. Yeah. You know,
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: that's probably why I bothered you so much. It really
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: did it, it really really. I get that my dad
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: was Christopher. Yeah that's painful, but he turned out a
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: lot better than you know what I mean. I mean,
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: he wasn't well, give Christopher a chance, right, But I mean,
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: he wasn't this loser. My dad was a superstar, you
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: know what I mean? He was a superstar and his
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: chosen profession. Um. But yeah, no, it resonated quite quite deeply. Wow,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: that kind of hits me. That's why you tossed and turned. Yeah,
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: I was, I guess I was. I was rory and weird,
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: weird right. Yeah, I'm Riley and this is your pop
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: culture for the episode fifteen. First off, we have Laura
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: Lae It's been cold pop tarts for a week. It's
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: like a damn Dickens novel. And this is when she's
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: talking to Suki about how things are going at home
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: with Christopher Scott. We all had a ten twenty minute
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: argument over this line yesterday as we were preparing to
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: do the show. The pop Tarts say it one more time, Riley,
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: because I still am like get it. Laura Lee says,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: it's been cold pop tarts for a week, It's like
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: a damn Dickens novel. When the when the boy asked
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: for more porridge? Is that okay? So Riley was right. Yeah,
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: it's like rationing. Please see I abstable. So. Charles Dickens
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: was an English writer and social critic. He is known
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: as a novelist of the Victorian era. Dickens was an outspoken,
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: outspoken social critics in general, but especially about poverty. Charles
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: saved multiple lives of friends and strangers after a train
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: crash and interesting fact, Dickens had pet ravens and kept
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: them around even after they died. Wow, so you know
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: I used to keep around my dead snakes after they die.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: I had snakes when I was a kid, and they
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: would die and I keep them in the aquarium and
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: I would deny that they were and then my mom
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: would say, you need to put them in a shoebox
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: and bury him. Son said, okay, mom, Oh no, anyway,
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: go ahead, Sorry, okay. Christopher says, well, I know you
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: well enough to know that when you say no to coffee,
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: especially in the morning, all is not right in Whoville.
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: Whoville is a fictional town created by author Dr Seuss
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: and how It grinch Stool Christmas Taylor Momson, who stars
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: as Cindy lou Who and later goes on to play
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: Jenny Humphrey in the hit series Gossip Girl. She she
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: was a Wholl, She was a Who, and Whoville. She
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: was the main who Dr SEUs has written and published
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: over sixty books. And actually Dr Seus's friend bet that
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: he could not write a book with just fifty different words,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: and that is how Green Eggs and Hand was born.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: All was not right in who failed? That was a
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: nice that made sense. We also have another Christopher line
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: and and you were the girl in the Pinky Tuscadero
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: t shirt sitting right next to me and this is
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: when they're sitting on the couch. So Pinky is a
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: character from Happy Days and is the love interest to Fonzie.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: Pinky is played by actress Roz Kelly and Ross is
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: also known for her roles in Star Ski and Hutch
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: and The Dukes of Hazzard. Ros was sadly written off
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: the series just after just three episodes, and she just
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: never jelled with the cast. After Pinky Tusca Darrow left
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: the show in season four, her younger sister, Leather Tuscadero,
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: played by Susie Quatro, was on the show for a
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: total seven episodes. In the Leather, Leather Tuscandero was way
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: more my speed than Pink, get Leather was legit, Quatro
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: had a couple of hits. Take a take a little
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: download Susie Quatro. Yeah, that was legit. So we all
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: loved Kirk's heckling. Kirk says, I'm dumbing it down for
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: ulf That was the best line of the episode, by
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: the way. So the original Falfa was played by Carl
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: Dean Sweitzer from ninety nine. Alfalfa had a signature hairstyle.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: His hair was always slicked down, parted in the middle
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: in a pointed piece of hair was sticking straight up. Ye, Laura,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: I says, my father almost hit someone. My father has
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: probably only hit another man in college wearing boxing gloves
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: and one of those Fred Murts pulled in gloves, pulled
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: pull over sweatshirt. Um. William Frawley played the character of
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: Fred Murtz in the fifties TV series I Love Lucy.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: Probably earned five consecutive Emmy nominations from nineteen fifty three
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: to ninety seven. Sadly he never won. At least he
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: got nominated. Geez, five years. Nothing can't be crying in
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: his beer he got He went to the party five times, Kidney,
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry for him, not one bit. William
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: had somewhat of a bad reputation as early as Fraley
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: had been fired from the Broadway show That's My Baby
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: for punching actor Clifton Webb in the nose. People were
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: different back then. It was a different times. Men punched
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: other men, and the men didn't cry about it and
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: call the cops. They just took the shot. Laura I says,
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: that's not true. If Tony Randall could crank one out
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: in his seventies, you have decades left to spawn. He
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: actually cranked two out in his seventies, if memory serves well.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: His the first time he ever had a child with
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: age any seven and then didn't he have an he
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: had another one? He never he was married. Tony Randall
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: was married to his first wife for like fifty years,
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: and then I think she died. And then he married
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: a twenty He was seventy something and he married a
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: twenty five year old and they had two kids. I think, Yeah,
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: the age gap was fifty years. He was seventy And
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: why did they have to talk about I guess he
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: did all the talking cranking him out, that's what they Yeah. Well.
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: Tony Randall was a comedic actor, best known for playing
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: Felix Unger on the nineteen seventy sitcom The Odd Couple,
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: which they were not couple, so it's very fitting. Next,
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: Richard says, I'm a Chuck berryman myself. Yes, Chuck Berry.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: He was all the rage when I was in school.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: So Chuck Berry was one of the most influential rock
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: and roll performers in music history. He's known for songs
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: including Mabeline and Johnny Be Good and Just Spite, an
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: impressive catalog of cleverly written songs. My Daggling was Barry's
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: number one hit single. The song tells of how the
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: singer received a toy consisting of silver bells hanging on
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: a string from his grandmother, who called them a dinggling,
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: but the lyrics, with their sly tone and innuendo, caused
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: many radio stations to refuse to play it. I Love
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: I Love my Dagling. It was a hit. That's all
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: we have for bob culture and dingling. Excellent, excellent. I
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: can't wait to get my favorite line, even though you've
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: already said it once. Yeah, I mean my off, just
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: start my favorite Kirk's I'm dumbing it down for you, Alfalfa.
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: That's the best, the best, the best. But did you
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: just Curtesy shut up? Sorry, my lady Laura La. Although
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: coincidentally I'm sitting across from an amazing Christopher Legram. Yeah.
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: What are we watching next? What's next? Our next episode
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: is episode sixteen. Star Cross Lovers and other strangers are
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: at episode sixteen already. Yeah. Really, we're jamming through season one. Alright, kiddos.
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: On that note, on that family friendly note, uh, what
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: we bid you a du It's been another rollicking roller
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: coaster ride off the podcast. Um, we'll see you next time.
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