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Football At Four: Going Inside Monday's Eagles Practice · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The Football at Four is powered by the Inside of
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  the Birds podcast is brought you by Bet three sixty five.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever the sport, whatever the moment, it's never ordinary.
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  Speaker 1: At Bet three six', Five Jeff boucher from The inside
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  The birds podcast And Philly voice Dot com is here
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  today for Today's football at, four and of course you
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  could listen To football at four each and every day
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  here on The Sports. Batch The eagles are back at
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  training camp and a lot is happening over the first
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  couple of. Days Nick sirianni spoke earlier. Today we'll have
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  some updates on that and more right now With Jeff
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  boucher from The inside The birds, podcast who joins us
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  here on The Sports batch live in A monday edition
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  on ninety seven to THREE. Espn and most, obviously The
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  birds are, back which is obviously gives us a lot
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  more to, discuss and it seems that they are giving
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  us some things to discuss, here so we'll jump into
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  it on This monday. Edition what's going, on?
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  Speaker 3: Brother how you, Doing? Mike I'm i'm back from camp.
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  Speaker 4: Today it WAS i THINK i lost ten pounds just in,
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  sweat so that was good development for.
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  Speaker 3: Me i'm making the weight And i'm happy about.
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  Speaker 1: It, well it is hot up. THERE i can imagine
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  it is hot up. There it's hot down here, too
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  down the shore up there at. Practice but a couple of,
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  STORYLINES i guess we want to get into starting right.
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  Away let's look at some of the battles that have
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  kind of emerged through the weekend and where we start
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  on This.
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  Speaker 2: Monday let's start at that safety.
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  Speaker 1: Spot andrew, mccouba the rookie did not, practice obviously Got
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  Sydney brown back. THERE i see people tweeting, out you, know,
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  hey The eagles have to make a trade and get.
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  Somebody it's pretty clear it's. Safety do you watch the
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  safety spot and wonder if the guy who's going to
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  start there is on this.
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  Speaker 2: Roster, NO i.
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  Speaker 4: Don't it's too early for. That the shorts and shelves
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  just came out. Today you, know we expect the pats
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  to come out. TOMORROW i say this a. Lot Adam
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  kaplan says a. Lot andrew De jecho says it a.
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  Lot you cannot make definitive conclusions about a positional group
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  or even a player.
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  Speaker 3: Too much after what four.
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  Speaker 4: Official, practices and especially before the pads come, out you
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  can start to see.
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  Speaker 3: Things for, Example i'm sure we'll talk about.
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  Speaker 4: This it appears right now That O'dri jackson has now
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  gotten a couple of days of first team cornerback reps
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  Over Kille. Ringo but that's a competition where you can
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  see a front runner right just like last, year you
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  could See.
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  Speaker 3: Isaiah rodgers clearly pull ahead Of.
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  Speaker 4: Ringo but to say that The eagles need to go
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  out and get a safety because of anything you've seen
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  over the first few days at, CAMP i would actually say.
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  Speaker 3: THIS i don't know What adam.
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  Speaker 4: And andrew have, soldia but there haven't been that many
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  balls being put down the field twenty or thirty, Yards
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  SO i don't know how badly the stafeties can be
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  playing if you're not seeing a whole lot of you,
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  know passes completed twenty thirty forty yards.
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  Speaker 1: Downfield, well you mentioned, safety you go over to, corner
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  would you say right now With Dori jackson does have
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  the lead at that corner. SPOT a lot of inconsistencies
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  From Kailee.
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  Speaker 3: Ringo, YEAH i mean it feels Like killy has been
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  on the wrong.
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  Speaker 4: End a couple of really nice catches from Aj, brown
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  but you, know you can put yourself in a better
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  position with better, technique better. Alignment And Vic finjo said
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  That Killey ringo is a guy who's got to play more.
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  Football he's got to be less handsy and grabby and
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  really understand how to play the. Position and The Dori
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  jackson for a guy who it seems like he's been around,
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  forever he's not like thirty three or. ANYTHING i think
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  he's twenty, nine are about to be. Thirty he moves pretty.
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  Well he's one of those veterans who's not that. Old
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  so you could see Why vic would want to get
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  a good extended look at. Him but, again pads come out.
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  There there's plenty of time. Here we'll just have to
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  see how it.
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  Speaker 1: Goes what are we getting One Johadd. Campbell obviously there
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  was wonder whether he was going to be ready to.
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  Go now it seems that he could be prominently a
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  part of this. DEFENSE i Know Nick siriani talked today about,
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  competition and he likes the competition that's happening.
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  Speaker 4: There, yeah he made a really nice play today in
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  the red zone drill where got into the backfield and
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  almost looks like he hit the ball away From tanner
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  McKee and got it on the, ground so that that
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  doesn't you don't see that a lot in just shorts
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  and shills practicing. Camp so that was pretty. GOOD i,
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  mean he's very, fast very. Athletic that stuff we already.
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  Know i'm very curious to see him get more work
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  with the first team and. Smile mindon was out with
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  the illness, today so it even allowed more and just
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  how he naturally takes to the.
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  Speaker 3: Position all.
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  Speaker 1: Right Jeff mosher's WITH Us football at four here on
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  The Sports Bash, monday looking At Eagles day four at training,
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  camp and obviously we're kind of watching all the stuff materialize.
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  Here Nick sirianni did talk. Earlier we're looking at the
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  defensive side of the ball and EVERYTHING i keep seeing on,
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  defense it seems that Morow ojomo's name keeps coming up a.
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  Lot what are we hearing and seeing from Morow ojomo
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  at defensive?
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  Speaker 2: TACKLE i think the.
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  Speaker 4: First thing you guys as, fans immediately you know what
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  you noticed About Moro jomo is you, know he's trying
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  to fill This Milton williams, role but he's he's built
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  differently and he has a different kind of skill set Than.
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  MILTON i Thought milton rarely last year became this like
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  sort of really rock solid three technique who could not
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  only rush the passer, well but move offensive lineman with
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  that strength of his and that.
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  Speaker 5: Burst Now milton's built a little bit, differently almost a
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  little more, leaner but he's got really fast feet and fast.
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  HANDS i think he can give headaches to guards who
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  just can't keep up with. Him and he's got good hand,
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  usage and he's a really he's a really.
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  Speaker 4: UH i think he's a thinking man's pass, rusher just
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  like when you listen to him talk and how he
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  has a.
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  Speaker 3: Plan uh smart. Kid.
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  Speaker 4: Uh so he's he plays the game differently Than, milton
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  BUT i think he's he can be as effective of
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  a disruptor on the inside because he's got you, know
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  long arms and fast hands and fast.
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  Speaker 2: Feet, yeah you, know O.
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  Speaker 1: Jomo and then you've Got Ty, robinson who was the
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  draft pick there everybody always wondering because he was a
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  guy that people seemingly worried.
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  Speaker 4: For.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and there's a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of guys that are kind of in that. Mix
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  but it sounds like you're just kind of talking about
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  is O joebo's the one guy standing out anybody else
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  in that, mix because that's a big loss Of Milton.
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  Speaker 4: Williams, well you, know With jill And carter not not
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  practicing until, today and even today he was not doing
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  everything with the first, TEAM i saw a lot Of
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  Jordan davis next to a joemo or next To carter
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  in the fore man.
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  Speaker 3: Fronts you, know Normally.
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  Speaker 4: Jordan davis has been in the over center in the
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  five man front that he comes off and then you
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  know they go to a fore man front and the
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  nickelback comes. In but today you saw him in the
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  four man, fronts which is really a pass rushing technique in.
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  Speaker 3: Alignment and you, KNOW.
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  Speaker 4: I guess if you're asking me IF i saw, SOMETHING
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  i didn't really see him with this new physique and,
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  everything you're you're hoping to see a little bit more,
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  explosion a little bit more power and, displacement and didn't
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  really see.
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  Speaker 3: That but he got high a couple of.
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  Speaker 4: Time meaning like you, know he got out of his
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  leverage a few, times which he's been known to do
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  with his. Body and he's still learning and adapting and
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  trying to figure it all. Out but that was something
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  that stuck out to. Me is that he got opportunities
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  in a four man front to play that three, technique
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  although even as the quote unquote three, technique it looked
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  like he would be alloying himself over the center or
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  shaded over the.
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  Speaker 1: Center, yeah you, know that tackle rotation spot's gonna be
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  very interesting to, see you, know especially When Jalen carter
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  gets out. There who do they like playing next to
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  him and all that, stuff and how deep will they?
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  Go how many different tackles will they rotate through? There
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  because last Year ojomo did get a lot of. Snaps
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  people don't realize he just did make a big impact
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  in terms of, numbers, Right.
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  Speaker 4: It was almost like The Milton williams of two years,
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  ago got a lot of, snaps didn't make the impact of,
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  numbers but you could see him coming.
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  Speaker 1: Along all, right we're gonna keep on the defensive side
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  of the. Ball there's a lot happening over. There they
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  have all the Stories, Superman Jalx. Hunt what's going on
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  in that, uh you, know rotation with Josh usha And,
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  Azizo jalari And Jalx, Hunt Nolan, smith all the edge.
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  Rushers how are you feeling about that group after the first?
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  Speaker 4: Week, yeah talk touch today and it's. Interesting he was,
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  asking you know why number, zero and he basically, said, hey,
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  man start from ground. Zero i'm writing a story about
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  it for Fully voice Dot. Com it'll be out, soon.
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  Buddy he acknowledges he's starting from ground. ZERO i, mean
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  when you're on your fourth team in three, years and
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  you know you only signed a one year deal and you're.
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  Speaker 3: Just only just just three years removed.
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  Speaker 4: From from an eleven and a HALF sax season and
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  you haven't come close to duplicating. It so BUT i
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  did think in general that with the shorts and sheills on,
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  TODAY i thought the defense and front really picked.
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  Speaker 3: UP i mean there was also some good coverage. Today
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  the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: Held onto the ball longer than you would like, today
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  the balls on the. Ground there were two. Turnovers there
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  had been none in. Camp there were interceptions, today two of.
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  Them SO i do, think you, know it's hard to
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  isolate one guy in, particular BUT i thought it starts
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  upfront as it usually, does and THE d line also
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  looked to.
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  Speaker 3: Me like THEY i even asked this Of moro A.
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  Speaker 4: JOEMO i, said you, know did you guys do a
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  little more stunting in line?
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  Speaker 3: Games today and he acknowledged that he did do a
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  little bit more of.
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  Speaker 1: That all, right there's a little look at the defense
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  from the first week that was so. Far we're entering
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  week number, two day four Of eagles training. Camp Jeff
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  bocher from The inside The birds podcast and of Course
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  inside the bird Dot Com Philly. Voice Tyler steen looks
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  pretty clear that he's the guy at right, guard not
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  even really a.
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  Speaker 2: Competition it almost feels.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yeah it's, FUNNY i forget who Was Van Ruben
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  Frank and made the note To tyler today that this
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  is the one year anniversary of him getting hurt and
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  losing his job to McKay. Beckton and you know it's,
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  true but it's it's, hey a year, later he stayed.
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  Healthy he's clearly been the first team right. GUARD i,
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  Know Nick serrann he said, today it's a. Competition it's
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  competition even if you're, not you, know on the first.
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  Team And Kenyan green really just got to practice On,
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  SATURDAY i think for the first. Time so BUT i
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  mean even in OTAs Kenyon green was on the third.
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  Team he's got it's it's It's tyler's team's job to
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  lose and somebody else is to win it If tyler's but.
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  Speaker 1: The way that it's being presented motion you were there,
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  today it almost feels like they're not even letting anybody
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  else try to win.
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  Speaker 4: It, YEAH i mean that's, fair but you, know you,
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  know any one day you can go.
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  Speaker 3: To practice and all of a sudden sees something.
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  Speaker 4: Change i'll BE i will be interested to see over
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  the next days if that, changes only, because like we
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  just talked, ABOUT i thought today THE d line or
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  the four man front got some pretty good pressure and
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  did some things up. Front you, know you don't want
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  to judge anybody off of one day and, that BUT
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  i was JUST i, thought because of, that maybe we'll
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  see something.
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  Speaker 3: TOMORROW i don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know the other spot is THAT i know it's not,
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  crazy but in THE Nfc championship, game you had to
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  play a backup center and he was Asked Nick siriannie
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  by One Jeff mosher whether it's important to find a
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  backup center who's Not Landed. Dickerson and you, know it's
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  not a y had question because you, know Obviously Tyler
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  steen stepped in and played guard last. Year you would
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  imagine he's not available for that. Spot right, now If
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  dickerson had a play, center so is that, spot is
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  there anybody emerging as the backup center or would that
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  Beat dickerson and they would have to find a new
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  left guard in that.
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  Speaker 2: ROLE i, mean keep in Mind jurgens is coming back
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  from an.
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  Speaker 4: Injury, Yeah so they drafted The eagles sort of run
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  the charade and OTAs and then the early parts of
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  camp and you just know that they're just doing it
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  to do, it because like you gotta give veterans the
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  first shot and then you go. On you, know they
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  they Had Brett toth as the backup center and then
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  the first team center at OTAs When jurgens wasn't, there
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  and it's like the, guy the guy has trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Snapping he's had trouble snapping for a few years.
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  Speaker 4: Now and if you have trouble, Snapping i'm gonna guess
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  you probably shouldn't be a, center you.
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  Speaker 3: Know just you, know my amateur for.
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  Speaker 1: A, team especially for a team that runs out of
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  the shotgun primarily ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Time.
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  Speaker 3: Right so they Drafted Drew.
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  Speaker 4: Can he's got some good bloodlines, There he's got something
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  he's been as he is a, center and to, me
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  it'll be a matter of time before it that he
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  is considered the number two.
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  Speaker 3: Center but he starts to make the.
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  Speaker 4: Team The eagles have like twenty offensive lineman here in,
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  camp all competing for god knows how many how spot, eight, nine,
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  ten maybe, eleven who. Knows but the one development THAT
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  i think is interesting Is Trevor, keagan last year's fifth round,
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  PICK i think sixth round, pick the kid From michigan
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  who was a left, guard mauling guard road greater, guard
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  only played left. Guard they've had him snapping from playing,
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  center which is good for him to as a chance
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  to prove you can.
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  Speaker 3: Be more versatile and make the.
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  Speaker 4: Team and you, know it shows that they're really looking
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  to see if there can be THAT i DON'T i
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  asked the question, Next, sirianni do you is it important
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  to you to find a backup center not Named Blandon.
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  Diggerson he, completely you, know passed on the question and
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  made it seem like it's they want everybody to be
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  able to Versu he gave me like zero answer on.
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  That you know that they don't want to have to
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  do that. Though they want a backup center who can
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  come in and keep things. Going and, snap and so
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  maybe Between kendall And Trevor keagan there's there's some opportunity
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  there that somebody steps. UP i do Think egan got
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  called for a hold today in a red zone. Droll
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  that did not Make Nick serry any, Happy but that
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  has nothing to do with.
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  Speaker 2: Snapping, well, okay let me ask you.
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  Speaker 1: This if they had to use Landon, dickerson do they
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  have a guy that profiles to say he would be
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  the backup guard or is it somebody that's in that
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  right guard quote unquote.
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  Speaker 2: Competition, WELL i.
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  Speaker 3: Mean they have a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, yeah if they Moved dickerson over the, center they
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  have a ton of different.
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  Speaker 3: GUY i, Mean keegan could play, Guard kendall could probably
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  be a. Guard what's his?
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  Speaker 4: Face Darian canard has played, Guard Matt pryor has played.
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  GUARD i, MEAN i DON'T i don't think it's that
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  they're short on guys who can play. Guard so that's
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  not why they want to Move land To. DICKERSON i
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  just don't think they want to weaken two. Spots you,
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  know you saw what happened When dickerson went in and played.
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  Center he got hurt and then they had to Put
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  turgans back. IN i think that they would just ordinarily
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  like to be able to put a backup center in
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  If jurgons got hurt and not have to create movement
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  at two.
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  Speaker 1: Positions Jeff bosher from The inside The birch's Podcast inside
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  The birch Dot. Com by the, way did you see
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  that the uh this just? Happens he might not have seen,
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  it But Traylon burkes just got released by THE Uh Tennessee.
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  Titans he was the guy uh in the trade FOR Aj.
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  Brown The eagles GOT Aj, brown The eagles Gave tennessee
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  the eighteenth, pick they Took Traylon burke to REPLACE Aj,
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  brown and today he has been. Released it's probably one
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  of the worst trades in the history of.
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  Speaker 4: Football, yeah It's it's definitely what DO i call revenge for.
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  Uh this wasn't a bad trade as far as nothing to,
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  lose but didn't work. Out when The eagles Traded Dennis
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  kelly to The titans and Got Dori, Old Dorriel Green,
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  beckham and you know j was supposed to be their
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  starting outside. RECEIVER i don't know what they thought was gonna.
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  Happen that MADE dgb some really good receiver for them
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  when he was terrible In. Tennessee but it feels a
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  little bit like The fens.
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  Speaker 1: There, yeah well slightly slightly different results for both of
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  those guys. There but, yes there's the trade that happened
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  on draft. NIGHT i guess a couple of years ago
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  The eagles Got Aj, Brown Driel, Green, Knockadio Treylon burks
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  was the draft. Pick he went To philadelphia along with
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  a bunch of other stuff, there as you could see
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  on the screen for the people who are watching ON
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  x THE x platform and on. YouTube but a trade
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  has not worked out For. Tennessee it has worked out
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  for The, eagles and we'll see what ends up happening
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  With Aj. Brown Kevin batoula did speak this, weekend by the,
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  way he so Tomorrow's. Fangio then they're off On, wednesday
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  Than clay is, Speaking patula keeps missing.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody, YEAH i wonder, why if that might be premeditated
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  or something kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy say it's up by design that they don't Want
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  petola getting. Asked, now he did speak On, saturday But
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  i'm imagining it's a less of a. Contingent The Jeff
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  bochers of the world are not there on A, saturday, Right.
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  Speaker 3: OH i am Definitely i'm too old to be there
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  on A.
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  Speaker 4: Saturday that's back for YOUR ga days WHEN i was
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  first breaking in into the, industry well and doing, it
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  doing it At Lehigh valley by the, way trecking up.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah This thursday night there is a football, game and
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  then the Following, thursday The eagles will play right here
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  on ninety seven THREE. Espn Jeff Boscher football at four of,
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  course right here on The sports Bast live on ninety
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  seven THREE.
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  Speaker 2: Espn all, right, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you all right by talk To.
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday there are a lot of good, updates a lot
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