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Best of Chuck & Buck 3-30 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: is Chuck and Buck in the morning, you beyond. Let's go,
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  Speaker 1: let's get the game off. Hello, good morning?
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  Speaker 2: Hello?
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  Speaker 1: Is everything working?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know?
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  Speaker 3: That was the fun thing. When you said hello, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, will he hear me?
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. I've heard stories. I've experienced a thing
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  Speaker 1: or two.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a blast.
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  Speaker 1: Is this thing on? Is this thing on?
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  Speaker 2: You know it's serious. When there's engineers here in the morning, m.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, is that who? That is enough? Oh? That's oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I walked by some of them like he's not
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be here. I didn't know. I was saying
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  Speaker 1: a ghost.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you were the ghost of Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: The ghost of Jeff. Oh he has haunted a mini
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  Speaker 1: house and building in his life. Oh I am the
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  Speaker 1: Jim Fool Powerful. Good morning, Happy Monday. Hope you had
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  Speaker 1: a great weekend out there, and welcome into our radio show.
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  Speaker 1: It is Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM. My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan is here as well. Bucky is out today
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  Speaker 1: and probably is going to be throughout the course of
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  Speaker 1: the week. And so we roll on, we trudge on,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got four hours ready to deliver here today
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  Speaker 1: on this Monday morning. Great to have you with us,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of things to cover, especially a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things baseball related. It was a fascinating weekend from
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  Speaker 1: a number of different levels. Also frustrating as well, which
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into uh here in a moment. But overall,
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  Speaker 1: how did the weekend go? Do you do anything fun? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Did spectacular?
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  Speaker 3: Won a golf match.
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  Speaker 2: It was a season long tournament that we had at
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  Speaker 2: our club, Winter Chapman, and my partner Eric and I
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  Speaker 2: made it to the finals on Saturday, had great weather,
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  Speaker 2: lots of people came out to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, and we won. And you won?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to or a tournament?
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  Speaker 3: It was a tournament? Yeah, more than I know. But
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  Speaker 3: I want the match to win the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: I see, I see. Wow. Well, congratulations, thanks.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty fun.
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  Speaker 1: What did you get a lot of money you did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but like a lot of story keeps getting.
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  Speaker 3: Bay No, right, yeah, we got money like for our
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  Speaker 3: club books.
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  Speaker 2: I can buy clothes and or golf bag or clubs
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  Speaker 2: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Did you beat five Iron along the way?
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  Speaker 3: No, we didn't play five Irons.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but he was in the same tournament, in.
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  Speaker 3: The same tournament.
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  Speaker 1: You won the tournament, yeah Iron?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well just say that. Yeah, sorry about it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. I mean he can tell himself what
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  Speaker 1: he wants to tell himself. But you want a tournament
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  Speaker 1: that he was in.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way that you're thinking about the now
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  Speaker 2: because I had not thought of it. Y.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can think.
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  Speaker 2: I basically beat every single Yeah, I beat everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he won the tournament. For goodness, he had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to win the tournament. He didn't win the tournament.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody else did. And her name is you, and her
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  Speaker 1: name is me.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, my name is her?
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  Speaker 1: Well good, well that's exciting. Did you celebrate a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Did you have some punch?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I had quite a bit of punch on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: but I hung out, had dinner. It was a whole
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  Speaker 2: family affair. Palmer the Great was up there, had some friends.
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  Speaker 1: He's always drinking punch.
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  Speaker 2: Always drinking punch. Yeah, I had a really good time.
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  Speaker 2: My mom came up and oh yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were on vacation. I want to hear
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  Speaker 3: about you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was good. Every year I do
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  Speaker 1: a little you know, gathering with a group of friends,
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  Speaker 1: and I really was. I was sitting there and I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking, we ended up talking about it, and because
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  Speaker 1: they do this group of friends mainly guys that I
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  Speaker 1: worked with in Vegas and then branched off and met
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  Speaker 1: friends from those people that I worked with, and so
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of had this excuse to get together once
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  Speaker 1: a year and no matter what it is, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: just sitting around and right now, and last two years
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  Speaker 1: we were in a house, yeah, just in some different city,
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  Speaker 1: and then we gather and hang out. And so I
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  Speaker 1: love it. I love that we make that a priority.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, like I wish that I
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  Speaker 1: had because you have other groups of friends during the
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  Speaker 1: course of your life. I've got my Arizona friends, I've got,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my friends that I grew up, and then
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  Speaker 1: I've got six brothers and sisters and then a mother
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  Speaker 1: and a father that are still alive, and so there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of different groups out there that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting that was we were talking about it
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  Speaker 1: out loud because this particular group of friends they get
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  Speaker 1: together twice per year because they will get together at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the baseball season and then they get
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  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of radio people in it, and
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  Speaker 1: so it's just before we start getting too deeply involved
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  Speaker 1: in baseball season and football season, you know. So they
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  Speaker 1: get together in Vegas right before the football season as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I stopped doing that years ago, and I always
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  Speaker 1: get grief for it, and I'm like, I make it
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  Speaker 1: a priority to see you guys once a year. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even do that for my own mother. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't see you guys twice a year
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe not see my mom that year. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I was thinking, I appreciate it. I love that
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  Speaker 1: we do this once a year, but I kind of
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  Speaker 1: wish if there was time that I would have done
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  Speaker 1: this individually with my older brother, and individually with my
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  Speaker 1: little brother, and individually with my sisters, and individually with
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  Speaker 1: my friends I grew up with and individually with my
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  Speaker 1: friends in Arizona, which I do see them once a
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  Speaker 1: year because of spring training, but it's not like a
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  Speaker 1: we make a commitment to it. So it's nice that
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  Speaker 1: we do it, but it made me wish that there
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  Speaker 1: was more time and money to do it with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish there was more time and money too, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just in general.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but i'd use it to visit people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I would too. I would do or have them visit.
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  Speaker 2: Me, yeah, or take them onnification somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: That's my ideal situation, is that I have the vacation
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  Speaker 1: destination and then I bring people to me. I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I've have lots of conversations about. If you
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  Speaker 2: won the lottery, what's the first thing you do. I
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  Speaker 2: would take my friends on a big vacation, is that right?
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  Speaker 1: I would. I would buy the house of my dreams
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  Speaker 1: nice and then and then yeah, i'd pretty much lock
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  Speaker 1: it down there. Yeah. And I would invite people to
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  Speaker 1: see me as opposed to because my entire adult life
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  Speaker 1: it's been me traveling to see people. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would do the old reversal. I have the vacation destination.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to come see me. You've got a
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  Speaker 1: place to stay. I might even help with the airfare
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  Speaker 1: if you can't cut it. But that's that's how I would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be nice.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be nice, Be nice. I think you're right, though,
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  Speaker 1: it just starts at the premise of more time and
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  Speaker 1: more money. Yeah, if anybody's listening and can make that
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  Speaker 1: happen for Ashley or myself, we're interested.
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  Speaker 3: We've got smart, rich people that are listening.
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  Speaker 1: There figure this out, I would think so. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: even if we had just a collection of not so
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  Speaker 1: smart and not so wealthy people, if you could pool
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  Speaker 1: your intelligence and your money together, you can make Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and I's lives better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're thinking outside the box now, and I like it.
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  Speaker 1: You need to form a club. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: you're waiting for.
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  Speaker 3: Ye doing other things for your own self.
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  Speaker 1: These GoFundMe ages for people that actually need it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a little tiresome. If you could just put together
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  Speaker 1: something for just people you like listening to, right, that'd
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  Speaker 1: be Maybe could use a little boost, that's right, that'd
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  Speaker 1: be kind of you. Yeah, I don't know why I
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  Speaker 1: got to think of you and your ways to be kinder.
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  Speaker 2: Phil's gonna be his Life's gonna be like, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing? Aren't you supposed to be working?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Not, today's gonna work on getting Chuck at Ashley more time.
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  Speaker 2: It's more money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Right now, all we got is the ghost
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  Speaker 1: of Jeff Yep to enjoy our time.
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  Speaker 3: That is not what he's working on. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 3: about that much right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome in. We got a lot of different baseball
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  Speaker 1: things to discuss today because it was our first taste
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  Speaker 1: of Mariners baseball for twenty twenty six. It was our
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  Speaker 1: first taste of the ABS Challenge system in Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball history, and a man, was that a fascinating subject
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  Speaker 1: all weekend long. Man, that's gonna be a huge story
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  Speaker 1: all year long. And so I can't wait to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. We certainly had our first taste of Emerson Hancock,
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  Speaker 1: the new and improved Emerson Hancock, which I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to get into. We'll probably do that more in Mariners
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  Speaker 1: Morning After and tell you a little bit more about
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  Speaker 1: that in headlines. But I do think it starts and
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  Speaker 1: not to launch it into a frustrating place already this week.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we are responsible for getting the sports Talk
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  Speaker 1: Week started here, our show here at KJAR. But I
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  Speaker 1: know how many people were frustrated over the television viewing
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  Speaker 1: habits that were disrupted this year by MLB, and certainly,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to put more on MLB here
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  Speaker 1: than the Mariners. But the Mariners did make the decision
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  Speaker 1: financially to not have their own network and decided to
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  Speaker 1: fall in line with Rob Manfred's master plan. And so
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  Speaker 1: even though most of it, Ashley I think was a
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  Speaker 1: fault of Major League Baseball and having a terrible they
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  Speaker 1: weren't ready for it. And then they put these negotiations
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  Speaker 1: off to the last set because this is what all
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  Speaker 1: companies do, and it didn't allow them time to troubleshoot
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  Speaker 1: or warn or prepare people for it, and instead it
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  Speaker 1: was a mess this weekend. As far as I could tell,
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  Speaker 1: I belwise, I was not here, wasn't my typical Mariner
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  Speaker 1: viewing of a weekend. But I do know that Thursday
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  Speaker 1: people couldn't didn't know until pretty much game time whether
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  Speaker 1: or not they were going to have the game or not.
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  Speaker 1: And then Friday was a national game, which I had
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  Speaker 1: to have a one streaming service for, and then Sunday
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  Speaker 1: was another National four games to start the season. We
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  Speaker 1: as baseball fans, are at least accustomed to having the
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  Speaker 1: local team on most every game, and yet we are
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  Speaker 1: off through just a rotten start with how Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball has changed the viewing habits of its base fans,
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  Speaker 1: and I know it's made a lot of people frustrated
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend. I would have been losing my mind
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  Speaker 1: had I been here for the weekend. I just happened
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  Speaker 1: to be with a lot of baseball junkies, and I
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  Speaker 1: probably watched more Mariners baseball than most of you, even
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  Speaker 1: though I wasn't even here, even though I was on vacation.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'll start it with you, because you were
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  Speaker 1: here to experience at all. How much did you get
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  Speaker 1: caught and bogged down in the frustration?
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  Speaker 2: I was pretty stressed on Thursday trying to figure it
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  Speaker 2: out because I had so the Mariners launched that Mariners
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  Speaker 2: dot Com slash watch thing, right, So I went there,
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  Speaker 2: and we have Fubo. So I put in Fubo and
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to tell you what channel it is. Well,
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  Speaker 2: all I would say is, yeah, you can watch the game.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to tweet this out or post it?
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  Speaker 2: On Facebook, and so I clicked on tweet just because
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  Speaker 2: I thought maybe if I clicked that, it'll tell me
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  Speaker 2: what channel it's on. No, it just said, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: can watch MLB network and stuff. And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: so is it even going to be a channel or
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  Speaker 2: is it just going to show me MLB network because
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  Speaker 2: that's not what I'm looking for.
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  Speaker 3: So I had no idea until about.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was about two or three o'clock in
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon when I finally found it on Fubo. But
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  Speaker 2: I'd been trying to look for it, and so I
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  Speaker 2: know Comcast it had populated that morning right or Exfinity
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  Speaker 2: had populated that morning, but for Fubo it did not
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  Speaker 2: populate till later. And then I was like, Okay, at
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  Speaker 2: least I know now it works. That's fine. And then
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  Speaker 2: I thought to myself, Man, I'm really glad we have
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  Speaker 2: all of these extra streaming apps that we keep complaining about,
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  Speaker 2: because it did allow us to be able to watch
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  Speaker 2: every single game this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: But but you have to buy the streaming But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what saying.
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  Speaker 2: We already have it, so but there's so many people
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  Speaker 2: that don't. And I just thought to myself, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like on Thursday Night Football when the Seahawks are playing
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  Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football on Amazon, you get it locally.
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  Speaker 3: It should be that way.
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  Speaker 2: You should still have it locally if it's on Peacock
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  Speaker 2: or it's on Amazon, or it's on Apple TV, it
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  Speaker 2: should always still be a local option. And that was
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  Speaker 2: what was really frustrating to me that I thought that
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a pretty ridiculous thing that you have
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  Speaker 2: to have every app to watch your own local team.
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  Speaker 2: That shouldn't be the case.
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  Speaker 1: It's unforgivable. Yeah, it's unforgivable, is what it is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I I will say, unless they correct it, and we
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  Speaker 1: might have to live with it this year, but I
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  Speaker 1: hope that they learned their lessons. I mean, what Rob
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  Speaker 1: Manford is after before he's done, and we're probably going
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  Speaker 1: to have a collective bargaining agreement, we're probably gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a strike or a lockout. That's to try to achieve
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  Speaker 1: the things he wants to finish before he's done, and
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  Speaker 1: one of them is and he's achieved a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these things and a lot of things have worked. So
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  Speaker 1: let me just first start by saying Rob Manford's actually
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  Speaker 1: done some really effective things here in the last you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the twilight of his commissionership. That said, my biggest
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  Speaker 1: criticism of Rob Manford throughout is that he's never really
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  Speaker 1: been a baseball fan. And I know I say that
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  Speaker 1: tongue in cheek a lot, but I do believe that
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  Speaker 1: there's some truth to that. I don't think he acts
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  Speaker 1: like somebody that knows baseball, understands baseball, has watched it
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  Speaker 1: his entire life, and actively watches it.
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  Speaker 2: Now and enjoys it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so what he's trying to achieve is he's
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  Speaker 1: trying to get a salary cap before before he's done,
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  Speaker 1: and that's lead to the lockout. Another thing he's going
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  Speaker 1: to try to achieve is he wants to have he
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  Speaker 1: sees what the NFL has, and he wants to have that.
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  Speaker 1: He sees how much money they make with their television deal,
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  Speaker 1: he sees how they own all the rights to their
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  Speaker 1: television product. And so one by one, Rob Manford has
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  Speaker 1: tried to gather all of these organizations together into an
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  Speaker 1: MLB network so that he can eventually sell packages to
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  Speaker 1: all these streaming services and to the networks and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's the hammer he's trying to swing here.
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  Speaker 1: But what he loses side of, and what he can't
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  Speaker 1: lose sight of is the fact that the reason that
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  Speaker 1: I've always laughed in the face of people who have
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  Speaker 1: been telling me since I was ten that baseball's almost
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  Speaker 1: dead and it's more popular and financially lucrative than ever,
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  Speaker 1: is that baseball doesn't have to worry about the younger
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  Speaker 1: generation because the younger generation will at some point have
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  Speaker 1: adult responsibilities, and those adult responsibilities like raising children and
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  Speaker 1: not going and you know, hanging out with a wife
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  Speaker 1: or hanging out with a husband. It's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: just trying to find the next party. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be I had a long day at work, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go home and turn the game on. That's
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  Speaker 1: what baseball has because it's a nightly tradition, yep. And
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  Speaker 1: so I've always compared being a baseball fan to you know,
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  Speaker 1: putting on that rope, putting on your comfortable beating up
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  Speaker 1: favorite house slippers, and that just routine of having the
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  Speaker 1: game on in the background is what makes baseball fans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, now, there are people like me, They've been
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  Speaker 1: baseball fans since I was a kid. But there are
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  Speaker 1: going to be people. My mom is the perfect example.
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  Speaker 1: My mom wouldn't watch a sporting event because we watch
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  Speaker 1: too much sports. She now watches more baseball than I do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because she her life slowed down so much
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  Speaker 1: that she became loyal to the product. And so Rob
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  Speaker 1: Manford is kind of spit in the face of all
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  Speaker 1: of his loyalists in order to reach out to those
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  Speaker 1: who don't like him. Let's reach out to the fan
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't like baseball. Let's create something that we're constantly
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  Speaker 1: in their face. And meanwhile, the loyal fan is like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. We don't have any
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  Speaker 1: reason to do that, And now you're angering your entire
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  Speaker 1: fan base. You are basically saying making the frust getting home,
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  Speaker 1: putting on your tattered robe and your old slippers is
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: something that is so natural that you don't have to
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: search the house.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: For them, right, you know where they are every day,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Don't have to buy a new pair every five days. Yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: because oh, you need these slippers for this occasion. You
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: cannot lose that. If you want to do it nationally,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: do it nationally. You can't lose that with your local
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: market and I'm sure we're in a new era. I'm
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: sure that we're not going to adjust anytime soon. We
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: might not ever adjust back again. But man, you are
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: playing with fire because as much as you wanted reach
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: out to twenty year old Toby who loves playing video
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: games and watching Japanese porn and trying to make him
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a baseball fan, you know, the truth of the matter
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: is that your customer is Chuck. Your customer is Ed,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the iron worker who is going home tired and wants
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a beer and a sofa and the ballgame on. Yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And if he can't find it, he's not a big
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: enough baseball fan to fight to find it. What he's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a fan of is my beer, my lounger, and the.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Baseball game, his comfortable routine.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: The routine. It's the it's the tattered robe and the slippers.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And so it's the reason why everybody that thought baseball
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: was going to die, we're wrong. And now it's going
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to be the reason that Rob Manford's going to put
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: his product in jeopardy if he doesn't adjust to this,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and he probably never will. We're we're probably going to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: be asked to adjust to this new world of having
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to buy every streaming service if we're going to watch
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: every game. I'm going to tell you right now, none
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: of you listening are bigger baseball fans than I am.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Not a single one of you is a bigger baseball
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: fan than I am. I am done buying streaming services.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I won't spend another dollar. And if I have to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: miss a few Mariners games, I'm going to miss a
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: few Mariners games. Yeah. I'm not playing your effing game, period.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And so if other people feel that way, one by one,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: fans are going to start losing interest. And if they
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: can't find their tattered robe, what they're gonna do. They're
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: gonna put on slacks and they're gonna go do some
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: other activity. They're gonna go out into the yard and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you know, and and maybe you know have have to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: put on cargo shorts and listen to music. Yeah, you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: they're gonna find another routine. They're going to find another
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: daily activity and it's not going to be baseball. And
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: at that point then baseball is in trouble. So he's
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: playing with fire right now. It is a bad idea.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't care how revolutionary you want to look,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: this is still a sport for people that want to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: find the tattered robe period.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is still a sport that is built
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: on people who have been raised on a team or yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Jack an who know they want to cheer for their team.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're the big baseball fan, but there's a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: lot of you know, people who would call themselves baseball fans,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: but they're just Mariners fans, right, They're not going to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: look for every single baseball game. They just want to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: watch their own team. And so if you make it
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: harder and harder for them.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: To do that, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you want
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to play around with it nationally on a product that
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: is suffering. National baseball is not exactly hitting the ball
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: out of the ballpark right now, but locally it's killing it. Yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and now you want to mess with the fan of
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the local team. The local game should be on for
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: free or on a cable subscription, whatever the case may be.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It should be easy to access, it should be cheap,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and it should be available period.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: You should not have to go to every app for
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: your local game.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, all right, let's find out what's on
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: tap for the rest of the show. What's on TEP.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: What's on TEP Mariners eight Guardians, nothing to split a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: four game series to start the weekend. Can't wait to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: talk about what we saw from the Mariners in their
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: first four games of the year, including the brand new
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock who was nearly perfect for six innings last night.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that Mariners Morning After at six
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: thirty today. Also, the ABC's are back. They will debut today.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: It's our daily Mariner segment. We'll do that at eight thirty.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: We have ABC's on more than we do Mariners Morning
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: After because occasionally these jokers take a day off, where
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: ABC's I never take a day off. So it starts
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: today at eight thirty. Ryan Healy starts his routine of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: joining us every Monday at nine o'clock, so he'll be
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: with us today. We'll not only talk about the Guardians
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and the Mariners, but we'll also get you ready for
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the Yankees Mariner series, which starts tonight at six forty.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: The ABS Challenge System made quite the interesting, slash fascinating debut.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Can't wait to discuss that. At seven oh five today,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the final four in college basketball is set. It's Arizona
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and Michigan to one seeds, a three seed Illinois, Yeah,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and a two seed Yukon, which pulled off a stunner
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: over Duke rallying from nineteen points down to win on
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: not a last second shot, but damn nero last second shot,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: seventy three to seventy two. Can't wait to talk about
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that game a little bit later on in the show,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: U'd up. Spring football starts this weekend, and we are
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: just two days away from everyone's favorite holiday. Draft miss
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: begins here on Chuck and Buck this Wednesday, and so
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: hopefully you're ready. Hopefully you'll prepared, because I don't want
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to be a part of getting out into that mess.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: No man, the forty eight hours of people that put
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: off their draft miss plans that are gonna bog down
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: our city.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't think that we're gonna feel bad for you.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I warned you. You know this is coming
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: every year. If you're not ready, that's your fault. Mariner's
• 22:41
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• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Let's be clear.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: You don't see Hossei Ramirez strike out on a fastball
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: up in the zone all the time. This thing is lively.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Two is right there? Strike three strike three on Naylor.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: That is eight punch outs, a career high for Hancock,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: which is not far north of the Florida Owner. My
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: call it hit the bag and pinned to Naylor. It
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: might be that kind of night for KRO's own Emerson Hancock.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: On a special night. There's always a play like that. Yeah, something, Yes,
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: that can happen. One two wave in a mess man?
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Is that a filthy sweeper?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Ryan, You've got a six run lead. If you want
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to push him right at first base, that's Naylor. The
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: turn passes. There no hits still.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: On the board for the Cleveland Guardians because of an
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: absolute jewel from Emerson Hancock.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: But I can tell you it's a big fan of
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock Jason Bennetti.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but could you hear them when they're like, oh,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: on a night that could be special?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Uh, that's where they're kind of.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Like, why are you guys protecting you? Yeah? I don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: understand when a broadcaster does that ever, and tries to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: not mention the note. Your job is to report what's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: going on in the game. You're not in the dugout.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: You're not jinxing anything.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: If Aaron Goldsmith or some local person wants to do
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it because they feel like locally, I need to not
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: do this because I have to face the angry fan base. Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I still don't agree with it, but maybe I understand
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: why they would do it. But there's no reason not
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to do it on a national scale.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: No, And that's why it was making me laugh, because
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: they were even trying harder, like harder almost than a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: local person to avoid it, like on a night that
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: could be special. Well, sometimes you need to play like this.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of problems with this all of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a sudden cause. All right, so number one, your job
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: is to report it. Number two, your national so you
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: don't have an angry fan base to listen to the thing.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Somehow you jinked a no hitter. Number three, there was
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: no chance Emerson Hancock was going to be allowed to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: throw a no hitter. He was at seventy pitches through
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: three innings. Yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, and they were like, whoa are they gonna let it?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: They said, are they gonna let him finish it? And
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Was no chance that that was going to happen. Then
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to send you an angry email now.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: But then they thought, well, the teams could the team
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: could still get a no hitter.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then they were like, oh, there goes the no hitter.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: When Chris I was like, I mean that's a base hit.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: We're all right, that's the comebine. No hitters not special.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It's just the world that we live in. And if
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: there were some people that are still angry about this,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you to just stop being angry
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. I mean, look, if he's sitting there
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: at eight innings and at ninety seven pitches, maybe even
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: seven innings at ninety seven pitches, then maybe they see
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: how the eighth inning goes, and maybe they do push
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: it a little further. But we just saw him Erson
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Hancock be the best version of Emerson Hancock that we've
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: ever seen in our entire lives. Emerson Hancock got to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: see Emerson Hancock be the best version. I mean, let's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: face it, Emerson has been on the outside looking in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: with all of his best friends, like I'm the guy
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that only gets to pitch when somebody's hurt at the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: major league level, and so he got to see that success.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: He got to see like, oh wait a minute, I might,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: after all, be just as good as all of them,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: any of them. Yeah, and so you got an opportunity
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: for Emerson to feel himself. Six innings, ninety seven pitches,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Come on, there was no chance they were gonna let him.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Pitch, especially his first start of the season.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they took him out after six innings because
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they knew he wasn't gonna be able to pitch nine. Yeah,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: so why have him pitch a seventh in that situation.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And show over one hundred pitches.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: No, it's just the way that they do it now.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: There's just no way on opening night a guy having
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a dream year up eight runs or a dream game
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: up eight runs, that you're going to remove Emerson Hancock
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: or excuse me, you're gonna let Emerson Hancock go out
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and pitch through the ninth. And if you let him
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: pitch through the seventh, then it makes it even worse
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: when you absolutely have to take him out in the eighth.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: So they're putting him the team first. I mean, if
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: he's at ninety seven pitches after eight innings and they
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: only wanted him to throw one hundred pitches that night,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: he goes out there, he goes out there for the ninth.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: If he's at eight after eight innings, Yeah, but after six,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: no chance. So I don't want him do either. It
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was the absolute right thing to do. I'm glad they
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: did it. And the thing that we have to be
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: excited about. I'm a lot more excited about what I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: saw from Emerson Hancock and what it could mean for
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: him and the team the rest of the year, because
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they told us it's an new and improved version of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Emerson and we got to see it, yeah, firsthand last night,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and so yes, that was the most important thing to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it all. And it outweighs any hope of trying to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: get nine more outs and try to get a no hitter.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you let him go one hundred
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and thirty pitches?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, and then you don't have it, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: then you don't have him if you need him later
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: in the year, when if something else happens to someone else, Well, it's.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So far out of his routine. If he goes one
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: twenty one thirty where he's not expected to, I mean
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that the next starts he's not gonna be the same guy.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And it also increases the chance of getting injured. That's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a big leap. I mean, his lat the most pitches
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: he threw in a spring training game was probably sixty
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: sixty five. Just like it's just like marathon training. Nobody
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: actually runs twenty six miles before they run a marathon.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: What they do is they work their way up to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: like eighteen, and then they just trust on that runners high.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: When they get to eighteen, they break through the wall
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and they can finish twenty sixth that day. But nobody
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: trains by going out running a marathon every day to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: run a marathon well. And in spring training, you're getting
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: them up to a certain point, and you can't go
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: from sixty five pitches max. To one hundred and thirty
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the next night and think that there aren't going to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be some repercussions. There are no repercussions from this. Only good.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Emerson was fantastic last night, and sure we as baseball
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: fans got deprived of maybe seeing him get nine more
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: outs and finish off a no hitter. And if you'd
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: have been closer, yeah you go for it, but nine
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: outs away, no chance. It was the right move. That's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the right movie period. Mariners win last night eight to nothing.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Highlights there provided by Peacock and NBC. We've already discussed
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the frustration of having Peacock carry our fourth game of
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the year last night. Well, we'll talk more about that
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the show. Split a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: four game series against the Cleveland Guardians, So two and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: two on the brand new year, and they get ready
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to host the Yankees tonight at six forty. It'll be
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo going against Ryan Weathers, one of the newcomers
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: for the Yankees, young left hander. First pitch tonight is
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: at six forty. And so we also have for Major
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: League Baseball the ABS Challenge system, which I do want
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to get into here in a moment, but let me
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: get through the rest of your headlines. Brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by Frost Brewed Course Light. Final four is set in
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: college basketball, Arizona, Michigan, Illinois, and Yukon have made it
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to the Final four. Yukon getting there because of their
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: stunning nineteen point comeback against number one seed Dukes. Seventy
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: three to seventy two was the final score. So the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Huskies will face the ALIGNI in the Final four, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: then the two one seed Titans. Arizona and Michigan will
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: play for the other spot in the National championship game
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and that'll take place on Saturday. U dub Spring football
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: starts this week. And yes, we are just two days
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: away from Draftmas, so hopefully you've made your preparations out there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, the tree's up.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: May I feel for you if you're gonna have to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: run around all the crowded stores and get your Draftmas
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: stuff at the last second. But I also, as father Draftmas,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: have warned you for days that this has coming, well
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: actually longer than days. Years.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people know what's coming. There's no excuse. I mean
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I feel bad because I got the tree up and everything,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and then I put to put the lights up, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I've got a string that's not working. And I thought,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: you know what, I should have checked these months ago
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to be prepared, and I left it till this weekend.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: So now I got to scramble today to get the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: lights up. It's a little stressful.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, Bucky was so excited he called off work today. Yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: he couldn't sleep all weekend long. He knows Draftmas starts
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and so he just sent us a message saying, hey,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to the doctor.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I go to the doctor.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this that I can't wait. So
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping the doctor gives me some take it easy
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: pills chill pills, as some people call them in the business.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think profession like, man, you got to take
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: a chill pill.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I believe medically they're called chill pills. Not do you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: too fancy a term for people out there, But yes,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Bucky had to get a subscription for chill pills or
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: prescription for chill pills.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I hope they work.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I do too, because I'm telling you last week, I mean,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: we got baseball getting ready to start, and all I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: heard out of his mouth draft miss this, draft, MIAs that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So anyway, worked himself into a draftmas Frenzy.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Kizzy gave himself an ulcer, a draft miss ulcer. Actually,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna have one, have a draft miss ulso festive.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Is it all right? Good?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Uh so? Yeah, that's in a couple of days, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the Kraken won't play again until tomorrow. They lost over
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the weekend. They've lost four of their last five, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: so I mean it is I mean, there's still just
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: two points out of a playoff spot.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Because at least they got points in some of the losses.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I mean, you aren't making it easy on anybody.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much right now. So they'll be
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in Edmonton tomorrow, ten games left in the regular season,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: ten games to prove they belong in the playoffs. So
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. All right, let's talk about
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the ABS Challenge System, which was introduced starting Wednesday night
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball twenty twenty six. It's so funny
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: that in the WBC that people were so angry that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: they didn't have the ABS Challenge system and that US
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Dominican game because the game ended on a called third strike,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and had you had the ABS Challenge system, we know
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the technology exists, why aren't we using it? So funny
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: that we've gone over well over a century, almost a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: century and a half without it, and yet we couldn't
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: watch one game, one game in the playoffs with a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: called third strike that was off the plate. That we
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: can't live with that because we know that the technology exists,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and we know we knew we were going to get
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: it when the Major League Baseball season started. And yes,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it is officially underway, and man, is this going to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: be a topic all season long? It was the topic
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: over the weekend anytime you have something new like this,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: uh And it created scenarios. I don't know if you
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: saw this one, but there was a scenario in Cincinnati
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: with our friend Gino Suarez at the plate where he
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: challenged back to back calls because the homeplate umpire was
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the terrible CB Bucknell and he challenged back to back
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: calls and he got them both right. Oh well, okay,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And so I mean it is like at that point, boy,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: you're looking like a fool as a home plate umpire
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that you just got challenged on back back. It's got
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: them both right. So Swares got a thunderous applause after
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the first one. When he got the second one standing over,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the place went crazy, really like they hit like seven
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: home runs over the weekend, and they never went crazier
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: than when Gino Suarez challenge C. B. Buckner two pitches
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: in a row and was right on both of them
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: on the second challenge. The place went nuts, like this
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is going to turn into something that the fans are
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: going to be on the edge of their seat. You
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: know how they talk about Ashley like, the game's too
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: slow moving and you know you can miss something and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you don't care. And Rob Manford was trying to figure
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: out a way to get fans to the edge of
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: their seats, and so he brought in a pitch clock
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: so it takes only fifteen seconds. We're going to get
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: rid of pickoff moves at first because that's a boring
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: play in the sport and we don't want to see that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: We don't want to see a guy try to pick
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: off a guy at first base nine times in a row.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I will agree with that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I do too. Brings the game to a screeching crawl.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So he's trying to find all these ways to keep
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: fans in their seat, keep them engaged. This might be
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: because based on what we saw over the weekend, the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: fans cannot wait to cheer for a challenge and to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: be right against that damn dastardly umpire and especially the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: ones that already we don't like because they don't seem
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to be very good at their job. And so for
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: on opening weekend for CEB Buckner to have gone two
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: for six on it on challenges against him, it has
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: kind of started this kind of phenomenon where fans are
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: pumped to see their hometown guy challenge that umpire and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: be right, and it was leading to like thunderous applause
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: across the entire baseball world.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: That's pretty hilarious.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I also think that teams should have a different challenge
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: approach if the umpire is known to be awful, so
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you could probably we'll let you be
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit more challenge happy if you're if cebe
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Buckner is the home played umpire because terrible and you're
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: probably right C. B.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Buckner clause, Yeah exactly.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I think that would be more entertaining, but I it is.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It's a fun system. We were talking about it last
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: week though, like would we rather have the box not
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: on TV so that the suspense is at home too,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Like you don't know, you didn't see the pitch and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: where it went in the box, right, so you don't
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: know because last week with Klum, well the.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Boxes, the box that they use on TV is not
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the one that so there is suspense. So number one,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: we don't take the box away because we're used to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: watching it with the box.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I like the box.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want too Yeah, and I think we want
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to be able to say challenge.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: That, that's what, yeah, right, or oh god, I'm so
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: glad he didn't challenge that, right, yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Which is things that you'd never dreamt I was going
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to end up rooting for or yelling at my television.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I was yelling on Thursday when Cal didn't challenge that
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: pitch in the eighth any and.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yet here we are. But yeah, I mean, I think
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the box that you see on TV is not the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: one precisely measured for the players. Now they spend an
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: entire day getting precisely measured. That's why they didn't have
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it in the WBC, because the players spent an entire
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: day at spring training, not individually, but there was an
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: effort that took a day to measure all the players
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: so that their boxes were perfect, okay, And so when
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: they go to the challenge system, they're using that perfect box.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: The one on television, you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Could still be a little bit different.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Could be, could be. It's usually it's usually right there,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: it's splitting hairs. But the one that they flash up
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: on the screen is going to be the one that
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: they measured specifically for that player, for that hitter. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: so there could be a little bit of a difference
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: between it. So you still have the suspense. We still
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: get to watch the game with the box because we're
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: used to that. Now we get to play armchair challenger
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: at home, and we might see a different result. I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: mean the suspense of putting the thing on the screen
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and waiting to see the outcome. I never dreamed that
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that was going to be interesting, and yet it's going
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to give fans another thing to root for in a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: sport that could use that. Yeah, I mean I don't
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: need it. I don't need it in baseball. I think
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of strategy between pitches that I don't find
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: it ever to be a dull, boring game, But there
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: are a lot of casual fans that do. And so
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you're sitting there playing armchair
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: challenger the entire game, and it certainly added something to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Now, granted, it's new, it's a brand new
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: thing and all of our lives, but it's not we're
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: just getting the first taste of it. This thing's going
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to evolve from a strategic standpoint. They're going to be players.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, Randy got to challenge something. This weekend. But
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: he's not going to be good at it, just period.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Just know that he is not going to have success
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: He can challenge when Buckner's behind the plate, right.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: George, I mean George is gonna want to challenge. George
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't like being told no. Yeah, and so that there's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of interesting little ways that
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: this thing's going to be for whatever reason. It's crazy
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to say kind of a source for entertainment this year.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Oh no, absolutely, I mean even especially because all the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: challenges and non challenges from Game one really stick out
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to me. When Stephen Kwan challenged and was wrong, I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: was laughing, Oh, you idiot, why would you challenge that?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And he has arguably the best eye in the entire.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Sport exactly, but it was just I mean, yeah, it
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: does add that extra flair.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. And I mean a few other things about it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Number one, I want to keep see stats kept on this.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I want to see them on the screen. Now, it
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: might be too early in the process to do it,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: so short sample size might not be fair to C. B. Buckner,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: but I could. I would start doing it tomorrow. Randy
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: rovers arenas one for one on the season on his challenges,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: every type of guy challenges. I want to see the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: stat how good is he?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I want the catcher. I want to keep that as
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a statistic because that's going to be a valuable aspect.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, framing became everything for a catcher there for
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a while, even though it's not. And and so now
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: we don't even need to frame as much anymore. Yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: because of this. And then for sure the umpires, for sure, the.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Umpier you have to know how many they're actually getting
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: called out on.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And the same thing with on the base paths. I
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: think you have to I'm sorry you got to be
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: put on blast players. Yeah, I mean you are protected
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in so many ways. You can't even get fired for
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: being terrible. C. C. B. Buckner should not be in
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the league, but he can't get fired because of the union.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And then they don't have to answer for bad calls afterwards,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: when players have to answer when they screw something up.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson has to answer for when people question his
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: managerial moves. And yet the umpires, they like the most
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: protected people in America Major League Baseball umpires, they don't
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: have to answer for anything, even if they're terrible at
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: their job, they don't have any threat of being fired.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It feels like, and so there's no way that I'm
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: not putting their statistics up on the television. I want
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the audience to know, and I want some pressure to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: be put on Baseball to start firing these guys that
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: we know are terrible at what they do. Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: No, And I don't think there's any excuse for why
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you would, especially Rob Manfred, if you're trying to put
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: a product out there that people are you know, gravitating
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: towards that are casual fans, I mean, an terrible umpire
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and having to watch that over and over is going
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to drive people crazy.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Players get cut, I mean that sucks for them. If
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: they're not getting it done, they get released. Managers get fired.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Umpires should be You should be able to fire an
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: umpire in mid season based off of the calculations of
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: how bad you are at your.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Job, or at least suspend them. If you have this
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: many where you're you know, you're wrung this many times. Okay,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: now you've got a one game suspension. This happens again. Okay,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: now you're suspended two games.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I think they should be able to be fired.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to make snap decision it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm saying you process.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Then it's like, okay, now we gave you too many
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: options by opportunity, but.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Of an accumulation of stats, just like a hitter, like okay,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's April, so you're only hitting one seventy two, but
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: we'll have patience with you. But by the time you're
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: still hitting one seventy two in July, you get fired
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: or we DFA you same thing. You get fired from
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: your job. Why should an umpire, Why should anybody that
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: consistently proves that they're not good at their job, why
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: should they continue to be kept? And maybe a young
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: person that you live with it. But when C. B. Buckner,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: everybody already knows he's not good at his job.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: And he doesn't seem to care to improve.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: And this first time behind home plate proves it to
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the world. And he wasn't even the worst guy behind
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the plate. He didn't even have the worst success of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the home plate umpires this weekend. I mean, they should
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: be vulnerable to that, and we have, you know, we've
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: got the system in place to fix some of their
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: terrible umpiring. But why should baseball live with somebody who
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: consistently scores poorly in this area.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think we should have to.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: We shouldn't have to.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Know.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: It's another thing, positively that should come from adding the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: ABS challenge system. So I want to see those stats.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: And then the last thing I want to say about it.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was a great point from Bucky last
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: week that we've mentioned a couple of times. Everybody keeps acting.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I just heard an MLB analyst just the other day saying,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: it's so nice to know that we're never going to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: have to have another game that ends on a bad
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: call by a home plate umpire. Are you out of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: your mind? I mean, can you really only see one
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: layer deep in life? I mean, that's the dumbest thing
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. I mean, there were teams that were
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: burning up their challenges all weekend long. Yeah, I mean
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: even in the C. B. Buckner game. Apparently there's a
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: once you get your two, it doesn't matter how many
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: times he's wrong. Once you get your two wrong, you
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: lose it. Yeah, And so Trevor's story ends up getting thrown,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: getting called out by Buckner on a terrible call maybe
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: as worse of the day, but they were already out
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of challenges, and so the game is still going to
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: hinge on whether or not an umpire he's going to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Even bad ones are going to have their moments where
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: they're allowed to be bad and could cost a team
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: a chance, not the game, but a chance to win
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the game, like CB Buckner did to Boston in that
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: atrocious performance of his to start the season.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say though at least in that case,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: you have a bit more control over hopefully not have used,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you know, not using those challenges, so you could potentially
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: have one at the end. But even even if you
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: save your challenges for the seventh, eighth, ninth, in means
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to get there, I mean, you still got to hope
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: that you don't have two things to challenge before that
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: you might get wrong.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: There are people happy challenge challenge happy this entire weekend,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and so that's going to be curb because you do
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: want to start saving some of this, and you are
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: going to have to take into account situation during the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: horse of the year. And maybe everybody's being given a
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: free pass right now, but I have a feeling that
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: list is going to accumulate. I have a feeling by
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: mid season, Dan Wilson's going to have a different strategy
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: than he had at the beginning of the year, and
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: it's going to deal a lot with the people upstairs,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the nerdorama that's going to say, no, we've done the numbers,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: We've crunched the numbers. We're not challenging, you know, two
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: in the third inning with a runner at second and
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: our eight hole hitter at the point, We're just not
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: going to challenge in that situation, whether it's obvious or not,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: we're just not going to do it. I think some
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: of that's going to start taking hold. But right now
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: everybody's trying to get their arms around this.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Thing, which I like, I think you should.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Fires umpires, managers, fans, everybody.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I think players should be more aggressive to start and
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: then dial it back versus being too hesitant to do it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I would rather see them being like, oh, okay, I
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have done it there.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Now they learned that way, But we got the warning
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in the Red Sox game. Buckner was terrible the entire game,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: but he got a couple right, and then you ran
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: out of challenges.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Because they were too challenged.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Happy.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got because you were aggressively going
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: after a bad home played umpire, you didn't have any
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: challenges when it mattered most Yeah, So there's still there's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: still an issue, I mean, and that's going to lead
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to some of the fanfare in the fascination of this topic.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're just getting started with it and already awesome.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I like it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see all right. Coming up next, the Final
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Four is set in college basketball, and man, they're sure
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: is a fine line between winning and losing at the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: highest level. We'll talk about it. Sports Radio ninety three
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: point three kJ R f M. Good morning, everybody, Happy
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Monday to you all.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Up.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: We had a great weekend taking in the Mariners baseball
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: season for the first time. Frustrations and all, not with
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the team, but with your television. We'll get to that
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: here in a moment. Also, Final four was set two
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: days away from Draftmas. My goodness. There is a lot
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: going on here in the sports world and it's great
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to be here with the ear on this Monday morning.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: We'll take it till ten o'clock. And when I say we,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I mean Ashley Ryan and myself because Bucky is out today,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be out for the rest of
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the week, and so we welcome you to our number
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: three of our little radio program and certainly a lot
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to catch up on. There's no question about Ashley won
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a golf tournament over the weekend. Not just a match,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: he won the whole tournament.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: That's right, started back in November, I believe.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a long time coming.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Ye about once every yeah, once a monthish once yeah,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: so five, five or six rounds. Yeah, just just beat everyone,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: including five iron.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I will never know what that feels like.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty awesome.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: And I will say this too because it's a partner thing,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you know, so some and it's it's a Chapman style
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: so it's not like scramble where you both just get
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to hit a shot and see what happens or any so.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it's a fun format.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I really like it. But man, on whole nine, I've
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: hit probably the put of my life. Oh, with all
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: these people on the hill watching Mullins, I felt like him. Yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: just I did it before he did, and I was like,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna feel like that kid from you Con tomorrow.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Ah, wow, And was it the difference.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: No, we we won by quite a bit.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: But well but it's on it's we went.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I think I think we took a three whole lead
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: at that point.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well maybe it was the difference.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: We'll say it was.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Had you not been up three maybe you would have
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: cracked under the pressure down the stretch or your partner.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe not you. I mean, your partner's known for it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah he is.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: He does not handle pressure, right, Yeah, So.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: If you didn't go up three holes at that point,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll a bit of different outcome. So as far
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, it was the game winning putt.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: We'll go with that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tournament winning putt last over the weekend. So congratulations,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks exciting.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: It was pretty fun.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and bragging rights over five iron for the.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Rest of time and I'm gonna make him hear it forever.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Mariner's weekend was also this weekend two and two. To start,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were a few things to be a
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: little bit concerned about, and we'll talk about that. I'm
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: not concerned about, but the few things that stood out
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: on the negative front, but on the positive front, to
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: have the weekend d with Emerson Hancock looking that good look.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy of all of these
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers, and he's the sixth man. He was the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: one drafted highest of all of them. So Emerson Hancock,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: you know, has been kind of tabbed as as talented
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: as the rest of the guys. And you can obviously
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: tell the type of guy they look for high in
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the draft, long limbed, you know, Gumby like, and they
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: have a few of those in the organization. But Hancock
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: was certainly originally drafted thought he's going to be one
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: of our best five. But he ends up getting passed
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: by Logan, and he ends up getting passed by George,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and he ends up getting passed by Brian wu who
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: was far later down in the draft, and even Bryce Miller.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: And so suddenly Emerson Hancock's and the sixth man in
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the rotation. And even when he was given his opportunities,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think that he was ever as bad as
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: what some felt, but he certainly wasn't good enough to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: hold on to a starting rotation spot. Well that zipped
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: forward to spring training, came in with the same great
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: attitude that Emmerson Ancock. All we come to spring training
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: enters the season with this is somebody that was kicking
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: around the idea of maybe transitioning into a reliever at
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the end of the year. And I don't know, maybe
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that experience because it introduced him to a different arms slot,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: maybe it introduced him to a new way of pitching.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: But he took that into the off season. They told him, now,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you're going to be a starter. You're still going to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: be a starter, even though he's looking around at his
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: best friends and saying to himself, got, am I gonna
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: have to spend another year in Tacoma? Yeah? I mean, I
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: think I'm a major league pitcher, and I realized that
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I'm the sixth best at this point in my career,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and yet I'm staring at being in Tacoma again to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: start this season. Bryce Miller gets the injury opens up
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the door that maybe he starts in the starting rotation
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: for the third year in a row. Will it be
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: different this time? Pe Woodworth and Jerry Depoto both told
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: us on opening Day Emerson Hancock was their best pitcher
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: in the spring, encouraging, but will it translate? Oh my,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, one game does not a solution make. But
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: that was a different Emerson Hancock. That was Emerson Hancock's
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: full arsenal. I mean he threw a slider at one
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: point that Kyle Rowley could barely catch. He was living
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: up in the zone, just like Wu and Miller have
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: found their success living up in the zone. He was
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: blowing away good hitters last night, that with that high
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: rail fastball of his, and he was getting a lot
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: of swing and miss last night. It wasn't just like
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Oh Cleveland just grounding into hard outs or lining into
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: hard outs. He was blowing them away to the tune
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of six no hit innings for Emerson Hancock to start
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the year. I mean, I'm all for an embarrassment of riches. Yes,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: if Emerson Hancock wants to prove that I'm as good
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: as any of these guys right now and it just
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: took me a little while longer to get there, well
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have. I still don't think
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna go beyond five starters, so there will
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: have to be a decision to make down the line
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: if Emerson can keep this up, but you're going to
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: certainly take a sixth guy to this already considered one
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: of the best rotations in the game's staffs, and so, man,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I sure hope it's real for a lot of reasons,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: but I sure hope it's real, and I'm sure hope
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: that they give they present Dan Wilson with the issue
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: of how do I incorporate six outstanding starting pitchers?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Well, and that was gonna be My question is, realistically,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: could they do that? Does that look like something they
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: could do?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think that you ruined,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: not ruin. I don't think that you.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Set everybody else off their normal right schedule.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: For one guy, but who knows. I mean, the Dodgers
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: going to a six man this year. The couple teams
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: have kicked it around that they're going to go with
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: a six man rotation this.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Year because when you think now, you're kind of preserving
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: their arms even a little bit more because they're having
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: to pitch lesson.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I'd say it's not out of the question, but you
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: do what you do. Run through the filter is and look,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: we're putting the car before you know.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: It's one game, one game, one game, yes, but it's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: just kind of a fun thing to wonder, right, And if.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: You know, Bryce is a couple of weeks away, he's
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: going to get a couple more starts. If he's sitting
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: there at three and oh with a zero point seven
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: to two ERA and he's averaging strikeout in a half
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: per inning, I mean, yeah, you've got to contemplate, like, oh,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: how do we take him out of the starting rotation?
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: So I would say I would say that it's not
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: out of the question, But the conversation you have to
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: have is how does that affect everybody else and their
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: routine and their ramp up, because you never know how
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the rest of the group. I'm not going to spoil
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the bunch to create for one his opportunity to be
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: in the starting rotation. So I hope it's a problem
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: we have because I really want this kid to be successful.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Oh me too. And yeah, as you said, an embarrassment
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: of riches. It would be really fun to have to
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: navigate that issue or figure out like how they do it.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: But I hope that we see another start like last night. Yeah, yeah,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: yesterday it was.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: An encouraging sign. I mean that was just not oh man,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: he six shutout innings because he kept getting hard contact,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: but they were flying out the right guy or just
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: hitting at him. I mean they were really having He
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: certainly looked like the best starter that we had this weekend,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And he's just I just don't
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: think that you can realize how difficult it must be
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: to be the highest drafted to the group. And those
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers are so close. It's like scary how tight
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: they are. They are brothers. They're not teammates. Those are
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: like best friends and brothers. And you know, we joked
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: about it throughout spring training. You know their babies. It's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: uncle Brian, It's uncle Bryce.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way that they're that tightly knit. And
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I just loved it. And I don't know if you
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: caught it or not, Ashley, but when Hancock struck out
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the last batter in the sixth and he came walking
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: off the mound and everybody kind of knew that he
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: was done for the day. Did you see who was
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: up on the top step, No, Logan Gilbert was standing
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: five steps outside the dugout standing ovation, applauding his buddy
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Brian Wu. I think it was Brian Wu because he
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: was apparently cold, he had like a hood up and
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: everything else. Brian Wu is slapping the top of the
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: padded rail in the dugout. He's up on the top
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: step and slapping it in celebration because the guy who's
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: yet to break through, like they have, had his best night. Yeah,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: had his best night as a professional baseball player, and
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they were there for him. And that can't be easy
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: to watch all of your best buddies thrive and you're
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. Maybe he figured something
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: out in the off season. Maybe he figured something out
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: of the end of last year as a relief pitcher,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: and he took that into the off season and then
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: got into spring training. Sometimes it just clicks. Can You
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: never know when that's going to happen. But there's no
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: doubting his talent, and there's no doubting what a great
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: teammate he is and what a great duty is. If
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: he figured out that extra edge that others beat him to, man,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: you saw it last night. I mean they knew when
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: they drafted him that there was a special talent there.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's finally figured out how to tap into it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: It'd be an exciting problem.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: To have, it really would be, And I hope just
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: for him, because, as he said, a good teammate, a
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: good dude, And you know, you love to see that
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden just work for somebody. And he's
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: proven he's a dedicated member of it. I mean he's
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: done whatever they have asked him to do. Yeah, and
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: that it's got to be hard to be, you know,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: up on the opening day starting rotation or opening series,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: starting rotation, and then get sent back down to tumble
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: a and then get called back up when they need you.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian Woo's winning picture of the month. And you're
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: in Tacoma, Yeah, you know, and you gave up five
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: runs and five innings tonight.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: So and you're and you're sitting there like, the only
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: chance I'm going to get is if one of my
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: best friends gets hurt.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Right and then and then yeah, then the relief possibilities
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: of the postseason. But gosh, yeah, good, good for him.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I couldn't be happier for him.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: On the down side, obviously, you don't want to blow that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: It felt like, you know, he had logan on the mound,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: you had a lead on Thursday, so that didn't come together.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And then of course you don't win the extra innings punch. Yeah,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: and and Donovan throws the ball down the right field line,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and through his own admission, like, I'm not one hundred
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: percent comfortable as an everyday third basement just yet. But
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: he worked so hard he'll think he'll get there. But
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and then Munnos, I mean de Laughter was just on
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: fire this week and I wasn't even a bad pitch
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: and he still hit it out the other way. So
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: on the downside, you know, there was an opportunity to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: win all four of those games, and you came away
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: with two. But I'm mostly encouraged by what I saw
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: this weekend. And there's the other thing. I mean, you
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: slugged over the weekend, what eight home runs in four games,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: and yet Cal Rawley, Josh Naylor and Julio Rodriguez were
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: your three worst hitters this weekend. I mean Cal had
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: two hits in four games, Julio had one, and Josh
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Naylor had zero. Yeah, zero for fifteen Josh Naylor in
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: that contest with I think sixteen strikeouts, so combined, what three,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: four forty five your three best hitters.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think goodness for the rest of the team.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your three best Hitterustry, Well, that's kind of encouraging though.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: It's like because you know, they're gonna get hot. But
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: is there something to worry?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Do I read into our World Baseball Classic guys were
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the ones that struggled? I mean, theoretically, wasn't you got
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to see more truly live pitching?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Well except Don Kim's own, he hasn't struggled. True, the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: only one though, But yeah, but it is. I think
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: it is odd because you have to look at it,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: look at them, and obviously the three of them are
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: the more prominent World Baseball Classic players.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Eron Judge struck out four times in his first game.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe I might have to do a deep dive into
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: every single one of these WBC players. Maybe it's something
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: else to criticize Mark de Rosa for did you screw
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: up our hitters?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Screw up our hitters?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What happened here? Why are our best hitters the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: ones not contributing in the for opening? They should have,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: in theory, been the most prepared to face the best
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: iron Sharpn's iron right, they it's the best pitching in
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the spring. Why are they coming out of the gates
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: so slowly? Collectively?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you and you've also got different managers, So
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I mean there's just a lot of it is a
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: weird thing to look at and say, well, that's so
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: strange that those guys, I mean, especially with cal he
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: didn't and Naylor. Neither of them I don't think had
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: a great WBC. So for that to carry over, I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: would have thought like, Okay, well, at least we're getting
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: the kinks out while we're in the WBC, get all
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: that gunk off, and be ready to go when the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: season starts. And it seems like it's carried over a bit.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Bobby Wits got four hits, but all singles. He's not
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: doing any damage. Gunner Henderson's off to a one for
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: twelve start with six strikeouts.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's not great. He played well in the WBC.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Need I keep going like there might be something here.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it seems like all the WBC
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: guys are struggling out of the gates here American players
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: here at the start of the Major League baseball season.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: But we're just four games into it. We're certainly not
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: worried about that. No, no, no, And I'm actually a
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: little encouraged that you go two and two against a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: good team with you know, famously good starting pitching and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you didn't get more much of a contribution at all
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: from your three best players.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I mean that first game, Losing the first game was
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: really a bummer, just because it was Opening Day and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: you always want to win Opening Day. But I didn't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: leave that game thinking like, oh, that was a gross feeling.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't love the Saturday, you know, to tie it,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: to go into extra innings, You've got all that momentum
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: and everything, and it just it was like somebody not
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: just deflated the balloon, but like stabbed the balloon with
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: a large machete.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good bun. I don't think he's
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: going to throw him out, and it ended up not
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: being a good throw. No, And then the latter was
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: just the latter.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he dislaughtered.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Us, Yeah he really did. And then, of course the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: other big story from over the weight well ABS, which
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: arguably was the biggest story even in sports, and that's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: when the Final four going on, so many people we're
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: talking about Abs. But we've already discussed that in our
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: seven oh five segment. Another thing that we've already discussed
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: without trying to just repeat what I said at six
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: o'clock about this topic, but certainly, I do want to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: hit on it again. Was the TV nonsense, and it
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: was nonsense over the weekend. And I guess the Mariners
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: even recognize it, and they're trying to make good on that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I guess they're got a new a deal that they
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: worked out with King five.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw they're going to show ten games locally.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: So April tenth, seventeenth, May fifteenth, twenty ninth, June nineteenth,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: so a couple of month basically through the summer. That'll
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: be easy, easier to access for everybody in the Pacific
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Northwest on your local King five affiliate, because I think
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: it'll be in Portland, it'll be in Spokane, it'll be
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: in Boise as well.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Well, that's it. But that's the thing. And not to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: just go through the whole speech, but just to kind
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: of summarize the speech I gave at six o'clock and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: during the time when everybody has told me since I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: was like fifteen years old that baseball's dying, fools. Forty
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: years later and it's it's you know, it's certainly in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: the shadow of the National Football League. The NFL has
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: become the undisputed King. There's no question about it, but
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: it's financially successful. It's contracts are still guaranteed, they're through
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: the roof. You know, there's intense local interest in the game.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: There's not as much national interest in the game. I'll
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: give you that. But that was one of the things
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: that Rob Manford was trying to correct. I want what
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: the NFL has, I want a big national TV deal.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: So he has systematically tried to lure away from their
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: local television agreements each team into a national agreement, they
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: get a bigger piece of the pie and then split
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: it up equally amongst the teams. Yeah, well, good luck
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: trying to get the Yankees away from Yes Network. But
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: right now, I mean, he's up to I think fifteen
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: teams in Major League Baseball. So that's the idea, and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I get that, that's the idea, but it can't come
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: at the sacrifice of making baseball available to the local audience.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: And so I get it. It's more of an MLB
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: problem than it is a Mariner problem. But the Mariners
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: did choose to go down this road, so they got
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: to wear a little bit of the blame for the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: chaos and the nonsense and the anger that was spewed
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: throughout the course of the weekend, and I'm right there
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: with you. I've got your back on this, all of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: you that were frustrated and angered, because, in my opinion,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the argument that I always had against people that said
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: baseball was dying was I'm not worried about twenty year
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: olds who are going out six nights a week watching
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: baseball when they're thirty five and they've got two children,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and they're going to school, and they're working fifty hour
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: weeks and they're tired and they want to come home
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: and they just want to put the ballgame on. They'll
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: be converted. They'll be converted to baseball fans. So to me,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Rob Manford's missing the boat if he squanders that aspect
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: of being a baseball fan. I always compared it to
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: that tattered robe and those comfy old slippers that you
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: won't throw away. You can't you still you've had them
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: for years, and you can't wait to put it on
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: and sit there in your lounger, grab a beer out
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: of the refrigerator once you've gotten home, and sit down
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: with the game on in the background, even if you're still,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you know, reading the newspaper or sifting through the news
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: or you know, carrying on a conversation with your spouse.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: There's still baseball will survive based on the routine during
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the spring, summer, and fall of the game is on right.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: And if you introduce I can't find the game, and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: you introduce, oh, I found the game, but I have
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: to spend how much more per.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Month if I have to look every night to know
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: what where it's playing tonight?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I just found the game, But they want ten dollars
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: for me every month so that I can watch one
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: baseball game. Now, if you start introducing that, there is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: nothing that's going to take the baseball. Not the die
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: hard to die or to watch, but even the just
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: casual I like baseball. I like having the game on fan.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna climb mountains and go through bramble to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: make sure that they can find through an act of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: frustration every night where the game is and whether or
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: not I've paid for it or not, or whether I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: have access to it. And I thought I paid for
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: it and I still don't have access to it. It's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a mistake. It is not good for the sport. And
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: as Ashley pointed out, when the Seahawks are on national television,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: a local carrier still provides it for all of those
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: that subscribe to the local networks.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if it's on Amazon on a Thursday night,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: you still have it on King five or one of them.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Do whatever you want, Bobby, with the national television package
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: if you want to make it difficult to access, and
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: occasionally the Mariners play a national game and we don't
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: have access to it, Okay, but you better make the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: local product available because right now your entire industry is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: driven by the local fever for the local baseball team.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And then if I watch some national games on top
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: of it, Okay.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's nice to just put it on.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you better not run off the local fan
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: that watches baseball because it's part of the spring and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: summer routine of theirs. Nobody is going to wear slippers,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: those comfy slippers, and then five days later, wait a minute,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I need another pair of slippers just to do this
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: activity in the house. What I mean, the whole point
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: of this is to relax in my slippers. And now
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: you're telling me every five days I got to purchase
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a different pair of slippers for a different activity.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: They're not going to follow you no, and nobody has
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: room in their closet for that.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Menyan, nobody has room in their closets. They're not going
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: to follow you, so better figure it out and figure
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: it out quick. I'll give you a year. I'll give
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you this year to realize the mistake that you're making,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: but it better be fixed by next year. Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: And I mean you look at the Crack and yes,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: they're available on Amazon, but they're also available on Kong.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: For every game that's on Amazon, it is also on Kong.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: There's some that they do, like TBS and things like that,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: but you usually don't have to have a separate app
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: for that. So I just don't know why Major League
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Baseball thinks that that's the route to make people jump
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: through hoopstre.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I can tell you why, because Rob Manford is more
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: obsessed with trying to get the people that don't like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: him to like him, and he continues to neglect the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: people that have been loyal to him for years. Yeah. Well,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: and I just don't think that's how you run a business.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think you spite your best customers just to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: try to get into your store people that don't like you.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like that person either, Like, wait a minute,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: you're surrounded by friends. Why are you bothered that that
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: guy doesn't like you? Yeah? You know, I don't like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: that in a person. I don't like that in a
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: human being. Yeah. I don't want it as a customer either.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Focus on the friends, all right.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, ABC's of the MS, the debut of
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: He's going to miss the start of Draftmas, which I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: know breaks his heart.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: That is going to be crushing to us.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Poor fella, poor little guy.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: I send him a gift basket. Yeah, maybe, well Draftmas essentials,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: or we could.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Put together a gift basket, have it here like we
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: do every draft miss and he can show up for Draftmas.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, and then if he doesn't do we get to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: eat it and drink it.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, damn straight.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: We've done that before. Yeah, with some someone else.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was a Draftmas basket.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: No, that's right.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: No, that was a thanks for the season coach, have
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: fun at Alabama basket.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: All right. So we do have the ABC's returning today.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: It's a staple during the Mariner season a daily Mariner
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: segment and allows us to talk about a few different
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: topics that aren't just the headline topics, and so we
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: do it every single day. We don't even do Marin
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: this morning after every single day, but we do do
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the ABC's every single day. And we get to start,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: of course at the right at the beginning of the alphabet.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: And even though we have discussed this topic, I don't know.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's as if the entire it's like the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: alphabet is even telling us to talk about this today.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: A has to be for ABS. The new challenge system
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: introduced over the weekend to Major League Baseball and it
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: created some really interesting observations results that we're going to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: be talking about all season long. I think they're going
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: to be talking about it other officials. We reached out
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: to Gene Sterotor because I want to talk to him
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: about it, like what is he that even though I'm
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: part of a Major League Baseball game, but just to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: get his thoughts on in a sport where the umpire
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: is kind of always ruled and now we've taken away
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: from them, we don't really trust you to make the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: right call on the base path. So yeah, we got
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: an eye in the sky that's going to monitor that.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I still want you to stand there and try to
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: get the calls right, but just in case. Yeah, but
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: we got a backup plan.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: And now we're doing it behind home plate, and we
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: sort of a few guys got exposed over the weekend
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: for not being very good at it, and then it
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: was just the first time they were behind home plate.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: You do wonder how are they going to take this
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, because now fans are seeing
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: on the scoreboard how bad the umpire is. And even
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: though they get most of the calls right, still, yeah,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: there are some standouts out there, and they stand out
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: in a bad way. That were headlines over the weekend
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: for their repeated missed calls, And so what are you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: going to do major League Baseball? You might have introduced
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a headache for yourself. And that's
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: why I wanted to talk to Gene to go from
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I've never had balls and strikes. There is a rule
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: in baseball that if you argue balls and strikes, you're
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: immediately rejected, ejected from the game. That's a rule. Yeah,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: you can sit there, and you can I mean, yeah,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: they bark it from the but you can't legitimately.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Go out and get all angry about it or.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: You'll get ejected. Yeah, and yet we have empowered the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: entire building to see once and for all how bad
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: umpires some are in this sport. So I was interested
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: in asking Jeane about that. How you can go from
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: nobody's questioning my calls to now everybody in the building
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: can see when I'm a fool.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're going to boom me and cheer for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: meeting wrong right.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: But I think that's what those like C. B. Buckner,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: who struggled, of course in the opening weekend, are gonna
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: have to That's what you got to hang your hat on.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hang your hat on the fact
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: that the guy that is jumping up and down and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: thinks you're a moron. Now you've got the screen that
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: can show him. Oh that's right. Yeah, I'm right on
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: that one. So we'll see. But's it's off to a
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: really fascinating start. It's kind of the talk of sports
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: right now, and we are just getting into it. It's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: like getting an eight layer dip and we've only gone
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: like one layer deep and we already think, oh, this
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: is interesting. Oh, this is delicious. We haven't even mixed
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: it with the other layers yet.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I can't wait to find out what the other
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: layers are.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: B is for Bronx Bombers there in town. Tonight the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: New York Yankees. It'll be Ryan Weathers against Luis Castillo
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: first pitches at six point forty. Yankees are good. I mean,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: Judge's been off to a slow start. They've got injury
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: issues they always do with their starting pitching. But they're good.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: We know that they're good. We know that they're playoff caliber,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: we know that they're a championship contender. But I know
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: that in the last few years, I've tried to argue
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: with people about there's not really a gap at all
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: between the Yankees and the Mariner. As a matter of fact,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I think maybe the Mariners over the course of the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: last four years. Maybe their record doesn't indicate it, but
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: if we'd have met them in the playoffs, we'd beaten them.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I just felt that we were I thought the Mariners
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: had a better team than the New York Yankees more
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: often than not the last four years. But it's hard
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: to convince the average sports fan of that because of
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: the pen stripes and the attention that the Yankees get,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: and in this town where a lot of people were
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: frustrated the last four years with the Mariners just being
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: good and not being great. And so here we sit
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: getting ready to face them for the first time. And
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: usually what happens ash as we get ready to face
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: the Yankees and the statement of oh boy, here we go.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Now we'll see how good we are. She's on the
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: other foot. This is the Yankees' chance to measure themselves
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: against the best team in the American League. That's my feeling.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: That just gave me Bucky goosebumps.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is their chance to see how good they
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: are because I know, I know the Mariners are good.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too, I will say too, though
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I think if the Mariners were to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: not win this series, it doesn't mean oh, the Mariners
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: aren't as good as we thought, No at all.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: But it will be fun.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: And I do think it's nice to, yeah, to not
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: be like intimidated that the Yankees are coming to town
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: for once.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't think the players were, but I do
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: believe that the fan base fans were, yeah, like, oh,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: now we'll find up. Well, they're good. They're good. I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: don't think they're great. I think we're good. Yeah, and
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: we still have to go out there and prove that
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: were great.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: The Mariners have to prove that they're great on paper.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I think they've got the potential for doing that. I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: think they've got a better potential for doing that than
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: what the Yankees have. I think we have a better
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: roster on paper. But we certainly are facing a really
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: good opponent tonight, and we get to measure ourselves, certainly
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, and they get to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: measure themselves against the Mariners because I realize Vegas says
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: they're going to win more games, but that's Vegas taking bets,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna get more Yankee bets than
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get Mariner.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Bets because you have Yankee fans all over the country,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: I mean fake Yankee fans, but they still will bet
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: on them.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, But the experts that are weighing in on it,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Yankees aren't even being mentioned. The Mariners are. Like ninety
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: percent of national analysts are picking the Mariners as the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: best team in the American League. And then finally see
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: US four catalyst, we've gotten our first glimpse of Brendan
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Donovan as a Mariner. I love it. Yeah, I don't
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: think there's much not to like. I mean, yeah, bad
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: throw down the third base line. Through his own admission,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm not comfortable with everything. Yeah, but I'll
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: get there as a starting, everyday third baseman. So something
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: worth monitoring there. But in terms of like a leadof hitter,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: a catalyst, a guy that's gonna work the count, is
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: going to see pitches, he's going to get on base,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: and actually has a little bit of pop as well. Boy,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I mean it looks pretty much ideal at this point.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: And I think as defensively, yeah, we couldn't even attempt
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: to think he would be all the way ready to
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: do something he doesn't do right. I mean it's the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: first weekend, so that Yeah.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't easy play either, but he really made it.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: He made it worse.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: He really watched it. Yeah. Now, as far as a
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: leadoff hitter, I mean, I spent the off season on
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: our stove podcast Andrews and I talking about Brendan Donovan.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Here's the bottom line. I wanted to add him on
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: the team. I saw him as an asset. I thought
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: he could improve this baseball team. I didn't watch Brendan
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Donovan play every game. Probably didn't watch Brenda Donovan played
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: ten games last year. What I saw of him I liked,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: didn't look. The trade possibilities that were being floated around
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: during the hot stove out of Saint Louis were silly,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and they proved to be silly because the deal that
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: we ultimately gave up for Brendan Donovan seemed like, Okay,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: that's kind of where I thought it was going to be.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the ballpark where that deal would
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: land in. But I spent a lot of offseason kind
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: of reacting to the ridiculous trade suggestions that were being
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: made out of Saint Louis as to what Brendan Donovan
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: is worth. And part of that stems from I grew
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: up in Saint Louis. I know how Cardinal fans are,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: and Cardinal fans love the guy that gets the uniform dirty.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I grew up, Ozzie Smith was the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player on the Cardinals, and he was
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: everybody's favorite player because he was the best player. But
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: the second favorite player was Josea Kendo and jose Ah
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Kenda was just a bench guy who played like nine
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: different positions and played them all pretty well and would
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: come through in the clutch every once in a while.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis fans love. They're scrappy, i'll do anything for
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: the team kind of player. And when you get to
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: marry that with a Brendan Donovan, who's that and he
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: also has a little bit of talent, he turns out
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: to be like their favorite players. So they really overvalued
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: how good Brendan Donovan was. And but but, but but
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: he's really good and he's going to add a lot
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: to this team. So I'm hanging out with over the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: weekend and went on a buddy's trip and one of
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: my buddies is a diehard Cardinal fan, and I was
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: waiting for him to start talking about Brendan Donovan and
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: he brought it up like immediately when I was there.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: You're in loven He's just great. You're gonna love my
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: typical Cardinal fan. Yeah, loves Brendan Donan, loves the guy
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: that gets the uniform dirty, does all the little things,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: you know, talks about God family after the game. You
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: know that not surprised at all that my buddy Doug
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: loves Brendan Donovan. Fast forward a little bit in the night,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: few maker's marks into my buddy Doug, and then all
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: of a sudden it was I can't believe we got
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan. He is the best. I love that guy.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: You're gonna love that guy. Gonna love that guy, Poor Doug.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Oh best, Brendan Donovan. Roy, He's awesome. Chuck, Chuck, Chuck,
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  Speaker 1: He's awesome.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan, who would have been the best if he
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: had photos of him and his phone, He's like, look
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: at this photo of him.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wouldn't have made this play. Look at him here.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: Look I was dirty's uniform.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: He was here.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: There's my daughter. Don't worry about that. I don't know
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: why that's in here. Like a look at this one
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: shot of Brendan.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Smile on this guy's face.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: So know that as you're watching Brendan Donovan get his
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: dirty uniform, dirty his four to twenty nine on base
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: excuse me, five p fifty on base, four to twenty
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: nine batting average, already two home runs in four games. No,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: and maybe this will make you feel even better about
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: things that it is eating away at the souls of
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinal fans everywhere.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next the NCAA tournament. Our brackets
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: are coming to a head. How did they look? Sports
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kh A r F M.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, actually, is that Ryan Healey always says wearing
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: hats most of the time, and then all of a
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: sudden he shows up and he's like, that's like the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: best head of hair that you're ever going to see.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: It's like, who would bury their great ten out of
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: ten head of hair under a hat?
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  Speaker 2: Ninety five Because a lot of times people take off
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: the hat and you're like, whoa, that's what you were
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: hiding there exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I've had that. I've had women tell me that before.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty much right to my face, like I'm sorry.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: I had a girl one time memory because I do
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 7: look pretty good in a hat. I can rock a hat,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 7: you know, I'd look better hat than not having a
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 7: hat on. And I literally had a girl one time
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 7: tell me like, you aren't one of those guys that
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 7: take your hat off.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: And you don't look the same, are you? And I'm like,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I kind of am kind of like a beer too.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: It's like, are you a completely different human being when
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: you shave the beer?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll throw you off. Sometimes I can be
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: mistaken for a young Glomanian boy, but not most of
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: the time. Most of the time it's just the old
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: krusty bastard in front of you. It's Chuck and Ashley
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: with you know, Bucky here. Today Ryan Healy, former Mariner cornerman,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: joins us here on Chuck and Buck, as he's going
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: to all season long. We are certainly excited about that.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: And sorry Bucky is not here. And I wasn't sure
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: if the salute when you came on our zoom call
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: was just between former players who hit home runs in
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: the major leagues or if I was supposed to be
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: in on that. So you gave it to me this morning.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I hope I didn't overstep my.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 8: It didn't feel as comfortable as it does when Bucky's here.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 8: So I think next time, what I'll ask of you
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: was just do it with more conviction or whether you
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 8: belong to doing it or not, just act like, just.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Own it, just own it. Okay, yeah, yeah, well yeah, well, see,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Bucky makes the mistake because you do the salute, and
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: then he does it, and then you have to take
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: it down before he's supposed to do it, you know
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 8: So you want me to do a standoff next time
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 8: and see if I can get him to.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Break first, right, like at the beginning of a game
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: in the national anthem, You and I'm on the outer
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: lip of the dugout. All right, Well, I'll be more
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: convicted in the future. I didn't know if that was
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a former player gesture, so now I know. Now I know.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: We're all retired now, so we're all want of the same.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: How much would you have loved to be playing today
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: with an ABS challenge system being introduced to your sport.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm a little indifferent about it, just because I
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: wasn't the best strike zone awareness guy. If you look
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 8: at my JUST career numbers, the walk percentage wasn't tremendous,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 8: So I probably wouldn't have gotten just a green light,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: go ahead and do it. I would have had to
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: earn some trust and pick my spots. But there are
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: definitely guys that know the strike zone like the back
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 8: of their hand, and you're seeing them get rewarded, and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 8: you're also seeing a couple of umpires get exposed earlier
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: this season, so I don't know. I might have been
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: a little timid spring training. I probably would let to eat.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: But you can see there are some guys across the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 8: league still timid right now about when and where they
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 8: want to use that challenge.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Did it make you happy to see some umpires who
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: have a reputation for not being very good and those
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: same umpires used to hump your games? Did it make
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: you happy to see a couple of them get exposed
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: over the weekend their first exposure to the system.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: I almost steel bad admitting this on airon I'm almost
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: mad that you asked me this question because I can't
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: lie live on radio.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: Right And the truth is, yeah, these guys deserve that.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: They embarrass us all the time, so they should know
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: how it feels. But also in the same regard, like
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: they're human beings, they make mistakes. But now there is
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: an accountability system. Unfortunately, forty plus thousand people get to
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: gesture their reactions and their responses in the moment if
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: they like what is happening?
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  Speaker 2: Mmm?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Do you do? I mean we were talking about earlier
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: in the show. I want the stats posted all the time.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: I want player stats in terms of challenging I want
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: catcher stats. I want pitcher stats when they get to jump.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I want the stats to be posted. But I certainly
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: want them on umpires too. I mean, we have, for
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, decided Major League Baseball umpires get off Scott Free.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: They've seem to have the best job security in the world.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Players don't have that. You're hitting one twenty two in August,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna be on the team any longer. Managers
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: can get fired within the first month of a regular season,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: and yet umpires seem to have teflon on them. They
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: don't have to answer for bad calls after the game.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Most of the time, you aren't even allowed to argue
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: balls and strikes technically in the sports. So what would
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: major what do you think Major League Baseball kind of
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: looking down the road is going to do if C. B.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Buckner's statistics show what everybody has kind of believed that
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: halfway through the season, this guy's blowing more calls, He's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: having more calls overturned than anyone else in the sport.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Just as an example, that's a good question.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 8: I don't know what the language in the Union reads
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 8: for the umpires but obviously they're very protected. They're lengked
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: in the major leagues once it gets their showcases. That
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: the history of the umpires being their show is that.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: My hope is that what it does is it creates
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: somewhat of a ranking system, and I think there is that,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 8: but it's not always very public or at least presented
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: to the fans or players when they go to the art.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 8: I want that implications to be against playoffs, like you
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: don't get to go umpire playoff Baseball. If you are
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 8: not in a certain percent high of umpires, then you.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: Should not be doing the playoffs. That's that's my opinion.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 8: Whether you should lose your job or not, I'm not
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: going to put that out there, but there should be
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: there should be a system in place for the best
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: umpires get to umpire the most important games. And then
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: obviously the better umpire you are, you can now you
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: umpire the World Series as well, so you can get
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: the DS, the CS, the wild card whatever, and the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: more games you get, in my opinion that they should
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 8: make more money. Correct, So if they are the better
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: at the umpires, they should get to umpire every single
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 8: round of the playoffs. So we have the best of
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: the best on the stage when.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: It matters most. Yeah, I might go as far as
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: saying I think you should lose your job. I get
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: why you would stop short of it, but I almost
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: think halfway through the season, if you have the worst
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: you know statistics, you're gone and will replace you to
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: somebody else. And then we get to the end of
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: the year, if you're the bottom three, you're gone. I
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: think there's not nearly enough overturn at that job. That's
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: a high paying job, and that there should be the motion.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: It's the emotion system. Maybe you put back down relegate.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: Did you get relegated back to Triple A three year
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 8: and then you have to beat a certain threshold to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 8: get back to the major League. Maybe there is something
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 8: like that that happens, but it's it's gonna be really
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 8: hard to hide with the new systems they put in
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: place to Yes.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy is with us here on Chuck and Buck
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: in the morning, No, Bucky, but we do have one
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: former Mariner with us here to talk to Mariners Baseball. Say,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: let's go from Sunday night back with the Mariners and
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: start with the most positive thing that we saw all
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: weekend long not just a lopsided eight nothing victory, but
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock looking as good as any pitcher in the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: world this weekend. What was your reaction to him.
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  Speaker 6: That's what we saw all spring training.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 8: Maybe not the no hits through six innings and the
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 8: nine punch outs, but the stuff. The stuff was there
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 8: all spring, the velocity, the ability to mix both fastballs,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 8: the four seam to the top of the zone, the
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: two seam He threw a couple two seamers at the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 8: front hip. That's a left handed heavy lineup of the
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 8: guardians there, and he threw a lot of two seamers
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 8: kind of to the front hip to catch the inside
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 8: corner against the left handed hitters. That was tremendousness. Weeper
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 8: was tremendous as well. He threw he threw one they
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 8: crossed up Cal that I don't know how Cal caught.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 8: Actually does a swinging mint strike three and Cal kind
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 8: of flipped across.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: His body to catch it.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 8: That pitch had such late moving on it, but it
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 8: was It was really impressive to watch and fill the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 8: strike set up with the conviction. And honestly, if I
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 8: had two fastballs that were running up to ninety six
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 8: to ninety eight miles an hour. Maybe I feel those
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 8: on up like that too, but that was really encouraging
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 8: to see from Ariners fans.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it's one start. I mean, you can't get
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: shorter sampled than one day. I was really on my game.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: But we all know the talent that he has, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: we all know how hard he's been working behind the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: scenes to kind of crack this rotation, and yet there's
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: just not any room for him when everybody's healthy. They've
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: just outperformed him to this stage in his career. So
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: I want to get too far ahead. But if what
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: we saw is real, I mean, Ryan, do you entertain
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: a six man rotation? What might that do to the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: other five guys? If you tried to force Emmerson into
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: this rotation, because frankly, you can't imagine not seeing him
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: part of this team.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: I woke up racking my brain about a million different scenarios,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 8: and the six man rotation was one of the thoughts,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 8: especially with the health of this rotation being such a
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: achilles heel of this team to the course of the
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty sixth season. I don't know what that does
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 8: to the other pitchers if they're so used to every
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 8: fifth day, that that would throw them off and create problems.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 8: The challenge here, too is we know Emerson's gonna get
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 8: plenty of starts for the course of the year. There
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 8: will be guys that need a blow. Maybe they go
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 8: on the ten to fifteen DA ail just to get
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: a rest and he comes up. But does the sporadic
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 8: and the inconsistency of Emerson Hancock starts. Does that do
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 8: him a disservice? Does that get him out of his rhythm?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: Certainly there's going up and down between double A or
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 8: triple A and the big leagues do him a disservice?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 8: Probably, Even the bullpen is starting rotation. It's tough because
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 8: of the spot he's in. This is a problem the
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: Mariners want to have, not a problem that Emerson Hancock
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: wants to have because he wants to be an every
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 8: fifth starter.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I get that.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: What would make the most sense for me at this
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 8: point is maybe run a six man out there for
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 8: a few months and let's see who can separate themselves.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: You can't trade him.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 8: You really can't get rid of that type of depth.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 8: You need that starting pitching depth throughout the course of
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: the season. So what I hope happens is that he
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: continues throwing really well. I hope the other starters continue
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: throwing really well, and then they can make that hard
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 8: choice when bryceon Miller's ready to come back.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Based on what you know about pictures, is it harder
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: to insert somebody and lengthen and mess with everybody's routine
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: and go from a five to a six which they're
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: not accustomed to, or do you think it would be
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: more difficult to commit to the six and then you
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: do have an injury and then you got to put
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: people back into a five later on down the road
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: because now you don't have the luxury of six starting
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: pitchers that you trust. Do you then go back to
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: the five after you've already committed to the six midway
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: through the year.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 8: I think the transition to the sixth man would be
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 8: a challenge because every single starting pitcher would have to
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 8: change something in their routine. They wouldn't throw extra bullpens
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 8: in between those starts, because that's the most weird tear
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 8: in your arm, in between the actual pitching and the
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 8: live mound. Maybe there's something they can do in between
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: to keep themselves sharp. And then obviously if you have
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: to condense that routine right back. You'd have to figure
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 8: out what is that extra day that I'm doing? What
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 8: work am I going to do in that extra day?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 8: That can be removed. But these pictures are such creature
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 8: as habits because they have to be. They have the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 8: most consistency with all of their schedules for the course
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 8: of the season. Position players were reacting and responding to
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 8: everything day to day. The pictures know exactly what's coming
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: the moment they step off that mound. They know what
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 8: they're doing every single day between the next start. How
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 8: much would that extra day of rest really throw a
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 8: kink in the armor here? I don't know, And I
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 8: don't want to affect an entire pitching staff to accommodate
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 8: one young arm that is showing some And that's going
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 8: to have to be a large group conversation in my opinion,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 8: where the front office coaching staff goes these pitchers and
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 8: ask them who would be willing or how would we
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 8: attack this and make sure we're going from the same page.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: Not to mention their golf games, I mean, they could
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: be completely thrown off in between starts.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: They might be able to be more golf and maybe
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: that's the trick here.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more reps, more reps, that's what you need. Ryan
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Heally is with us right here on chugging back talking
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: to Mariners Baseball. Brendan Donovan was terrific this weekend. I
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: mean in every aspect of the game, but he did
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: have one crazy throw at an inopportune time that might
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: have been the difference in winning and losing a game
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: that you ultimately lost. Brendan told me personally, told Bucky
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: and I personally in our interview with him, but this
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: was at the beginning of spring training. He's like, I
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: don't I can't tell you that I'm one hundred percent
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: comfortable as somebody that's been a utility player the last
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: few years of every day third base. There's still some
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: things that I'm being challenged with. Hopefully I'm okay by
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: opening day as somebody that played third base. Is that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: one of the most difficult plays If you're not one
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: hundred percent comfortable at third base, charging bare handing, trying
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: to get a speedy guy down the line while knowing
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: that there's somebody running to third behind you, Is that
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: about as challenging a play as you can get.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would put that up on the list, and
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 8: you think about a guy like Kyle Seger. He made
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: that play look so easy for so long. He was
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 8: really comfortable throwing from a lot of different arm angles,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: and the misses were a lot smaller. Obviously, Brendan's miss
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: was honestly wake glove side so to Nailer's left hand
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: side and just kind of went to no man's land
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: in the outfield. I would always miss up the line
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 8: where the runner in the first basement we're colliding.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: Both of those misses are dangerous.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 8: I actually think that Brendan Donovan's miss was the better
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 8: of the two because at least you're keeping your first
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 8: basement safe.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: But when you're running.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 8: In that hard towards the baseball, your body's out of control.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 8: You really can't see what's happening out of your peripherals
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 8: with the run. So how far from the base he is.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 8: What a chance at this play. It's really just a
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: reaction play. Once you commit to it, he'll get more comfortable.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: Like there's a lot of opportunities to play like that,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: for like a pump fake and then check the runner
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: behind you, especially if you do have a trail runner
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: at your back. And maybe you can have a short
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 8: stop back and you up and you can make a
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 8: baseball play there. But he'll get more comfortable with that
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 8: early on the season though. That's just gonna be a
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 8: full send. Let me just kip it everything I have
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: and try to just minimize my misses.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he was gonna get him even
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: if he made a good throw, really fast hitter with
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: a really good bunt right there. So otherwise though, he
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: was about perfect. I mean, he was everything you hope
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan would be. What did you make of his
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: approach at the plate.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: He was covering the top of the zone a lot
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 8: better than I anticipated in a game right now when
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 8: vertical break meaning fastballs that are pretty much rising up
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 8: through the strike zone beat a lot of hitters. He
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 8: hit two of those for home runs this weekend. That
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: was really impressive. He has a very short impact approach.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 8: He's not trying to do too much, even though we
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 8: hit two home runs this weekend. He is able to
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 8: work a tough at bat though, and I think that's
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 8: what the manners need at the top of their line
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 8: up to be the tone setter. He's going to be
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 8: a tough out and for a lineup that doesn't have
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 8: everyone clicking on all cylinders just yet. There's a lot
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: of guys that are shining, and he is at the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 8: top of that list.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Well, three for forty five with nineteen strikeouts from arguably
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: your three best hitters on opening weekend, Cal, Julio and
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Josh who all we're in the WBC together. Ashley and
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I discussed this a little bit earlier in the show.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Just coincidence or did the WBC screw up our best
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: hitters to start the season.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 8: Ryan, I think it's a coincidence because I actually thought
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 8: that Julia looked pretty good at WBC, so his slower
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 8: start is surprising. It's such a small sample size. It's
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 8: less than twenty eight bats for a lot of these guys.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 8: You gotta think about this, each player, each hitter has
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 8: their own kind of formula for how many bats they
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 8: need to feel game ready, feel locked. In mid season four,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 8: it took me about fifty at bats to feel good.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 8: So if we're talking about fifteen to twenty at bats
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 8: so far, we still got a little bit of waste
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 8: to go. Cal got I think twelve during the WBC,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 8: and those were scattered and sporadic and then crammed as
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 8: many as he could when he came back on the
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 8: minor league side in the major league side, and we
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 8: saw how those won as well. He actually looked a
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 8: little bit better this weekend. He was starting to get
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 8: to fastballs at the top of the zone, maybe not
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 8: driving them, but at least putting barrel on them. He
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 8: was getting pitched really tough, but you can when you
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 8: miss your pitch early in counts, meaning you foul them
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 8: off for swing and miss, it's deflating as a hitter.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 8: So then you get to a two strike account, you
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: start nibbling, you start battling, you're spoiling tough pitches. Hitting
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 8: becomes really hard when you can't hit your pitch. Julio
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: looks like he's just not seeing it. Great, that will
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 8: get better. But the fact that this team quite frankly,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 8: could have won all four of those games without those
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 8: players clicking, it's gonna be a pretty good year.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Ryan Healley, our guest here on chuck
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: them back in the Morning's Yankees Tonight. Another thing I
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: said earlier in the show is this is not the
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: tipic old Yankees are in town time to measure ourselves
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: against one of the best in the game. I will
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: say the Yankees are in town, their chance to measure
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: themselves against one of the best in the game. So
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: the shoes on the other foot here tonight. As far
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, heally and not the normal uh oh,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: here come the Bronx Bombers. I think it's them that
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: needs to be worried about being as good as the
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: Mariners this year.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 8: Well, I can't say what I want to say on
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 8: the radio because there's a curse we're involved. But it's
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: usually oh boy or oh something. If you're scared, it's
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 8: gonna be oh something. You guys can insert that you
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 8: want there. But the oh boy mentality bring it on
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 8: New York Yankees this early in the season.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: Oh boy, let's go, bring them on. We're ready to compete.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 8: And I think the clubhouse feels this way, the city
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 8: feels this way, the fans feel this way, and I'm
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 8: just excited to watch.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you were meaning f the Yankees. I
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: thought that's what you were wanting to say. He's just shaking.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 6: You have the button, give the button, ready to go.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Great. His second appearance of the year he's just like
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: rips off A.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: He'd be the listener favorite for the rest of his life.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Uh so.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo gets the start tonight against the Yankees, the
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: old man of the group. You know, there are people
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: that still say he's got the best stuff in the rotation,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: which is quite the compliment considering his peers. Does Louis
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Castillo have it in him to be great again? I
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's been great the last couple of years.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: He's been good, but does he ever in him to
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: be great again?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: Do we need Luis Castile to be great or do
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 8: we need him to just kind of be who he's
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 8: been for his entire career. He's had some tremendous years,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: no doubt his stuff plays, though. I'm excited to see
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 8: what the pitch repertoire looks like this year. He's kind
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: of evolved the last few years of being less of
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: a sinker slider guy, have more of a foreseen change
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: up guy. So how he's going to attack this Yankees
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 8: lineup would be really important. I didn't get to see
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: him throw much in Springs, so I'm not sure how
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 8: the stuff looks, how the arm is coming to velocity,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 8: in shape, But based off of what I'm seeing from
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 8: the rest of the pitching staff, I have no reason
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 8: to believe that Luis Castillo won't be in simpler for him.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, four games under our belts, two and
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: two against a pretty good Cleveland team, as you mentioned,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: could have won all four. You know, well, give me
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: something to you that stood out, like, boy, that looks good,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: and then maybe if there is anything that's negative about
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: the weekend, what might that be.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 8: What's really good is Brendan Donovan's real Okay, the bottom
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 8: of that lineup is going to produce.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: Cole Young is going to continue to get better.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 8: I actually called his three run home run on Friday.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 8: I was sitting there watching the game. We had this
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 8: couple of friends over for dinner, and I was like,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 8: you want to see a three run homer.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: And he literally went wack.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 8: I just saw it, took it, saw some better swings,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 8: and after watching him in spring training and knew he
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 8: was going to like a guy like Luke Rayley. Luke
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 8: Raley looks really, really good. I'm excited to see how
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 8: the back of the bullpen shapes up. Obviously we saw,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 8: you know, gave Spier didn't have the best showing. I
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 8: think that was just a baseball moment. Muno just give
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 8: up to the home run at the Latterer.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 8: That back end of that bullpen's really gonna shape out.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 8: Bizardo looked really, really good. We were missing Vargas in
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 8: one of those games. It would have been nice to
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 8: have him for down, down one ty or tie game,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 8: to have that electric electric stuff come in.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: There so many positives. Starting pitching is really good.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 8: The offenses, as advertised, will continue to get better, and
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 8: our bullpen, I think is only going to improve as well.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got Chase the Laudard a couple of games. Otherwise,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: great solid weekend, not a great Vegan. I'll take it
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: two and two when your three best hitters aren't producing.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: Not bad. Not a bad start. Could be better, Not
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: a bad start, could be worse, could be a lot worse.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: All right, man, great to see you, Thank you very much.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: We appreciate great stuff as always, and we'll do it
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: again next week. Can't wait, all right? Ryan Aley joining
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: us right here on Chuck and Buck as Yes, very
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: happy to have him on board for an entire season.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: We had Ryan in the postseason a year ago. But
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: great stuff out of him today. Coming up next NBA
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: expansion and whether or not the NBA will loosen its
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: rules when the Sonics get here. Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:44:26
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• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know what she's saying.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: I have no clue, no clue.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: It's Chuck Powell, it's Ashley Ryan, no Bucky Jacobson. Here
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: today as we guide you through this Monday morning. We're
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: nearly to the finish line. But man, we're just getting
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: started here. We got the month of April coming up,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: and April is just the best month for sports that
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: there is. I mean, we got baseball fully underway. We
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: got NBA Playoffs starting in a couple of weeks, NHL
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Playoffs starting in a couple of weeks, the final four
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: will be held this Saturday, plus the National Championship Game
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: in college basketball, we got the Sounders underwe I mean, basically,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: there's every excuse in the world to head to tulalap
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Resort Casino, hang out at the Draft Kings Sports Book,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: and just make that your hub for the month of April.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: It's Toll April to love celebrating Toll April, and you
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: could bet on the Masters too, because that's coming up.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: I actually confuse the Master's weekend with Easter weekend. Somebody
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: was asking me, what are you doing for Easter. I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: was like, well, I haven't figured that out yet. It's
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: not till the twelfth. They're like, no, it's the fifth.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, oh is it?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: I was really looking forward to the twelfth. Oh, because
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: it's Masters Sunday, got it. That's why I had that
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: one in my head.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: Easter.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: See, I'm telling you, April is just so loaded with
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: great stuff. April you can just watch all the great
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: sports in the world, celebrate Draft miss and eat jelly
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: beans at your whim.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Come on now, I bet there's some Easter magic happening
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: at Tulalip Toll.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: April is the time to be at LEYLP Resort Casino,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: and it is a phenomenal month. My goodness. You know,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: I never even associate golf with gambling, and yet it's
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: like the most highly highly increase. Like a friend of
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: mine just sent me tystes like who do you like
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: and Masters or something like that. I don't even think
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: I responded to that. By the way, I don't even
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: really associate gambling, but it is the exploded. Our friend
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Brady Cannon, like, people just can't get enough of gambling
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: on golfing.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get to talk to him soon.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: I play fantasy golf every year. It's a blast.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Have you had your draft yet?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: Well, so for fantasy golf, we pick one person each week.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: You just can't use the same golfer.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I trying really hard to not use any
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: of the big names.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: Who gets to How do you determine who gets the
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: first pick?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: And full everybody people can use the same one. It
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You don't know who anyone has picked it
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: until the tournament starts. Oh, then you find out who
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: they've picked. They can't strap, but you can see who
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: people have used in the past, so you can kind
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: of think, oh, well, less people are likely to use
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: this person. I just go on a whim.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm not.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: Great at it.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: This is your year, this is your ear you craft
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: you think that, yeah, it is. Also that could be
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: the year where we find out that the Sonics are
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: making their return to Seattle. Of course, we know the
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: big story from a week ago, and now you know
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: the dust settles a little bit. We can't get too
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: far ahead of ourselves. Certainly, we can't start putting together
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: plans for expansion picks and which draft are we going
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: to be a part of. I mean, I'll think about
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: that stuff earlier than most, but we're just we're not there.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: We're going to need a little more concrete idea as
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: to whether or not we're going to actually get basketball.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: But I did have an interesting conversation. You know, I
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: mentioned this cup the Times have this group of buddies.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: We get together every year, and one of them does
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: sports talk radio in Las Vegas, and so the moment
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: I walked through the doors, he's like, uh, so we're
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: now rivals. And I didn't know what he was talking about.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, are going to get NBA expansion
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: both Vegas and Seattle, and so we have to be
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: rivals now from this point forward. Or he actually may
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: have said it the other way. He said we're brothers
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: or something like that. All right, where I think I
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: started the No, I think we're more rivals than we
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: are brothers.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be brothers for a little bit till
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: you both get good and then you want to beat
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: up on your brother.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see the relationship
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: if in fact this happens between the Sonics and whatever
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: the Vegas team is called Scorpions. It sounds like it.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: But another thing that he he we ended up because
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: we're sports talk show hosts. We had got in the
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: weeds about how we want to see it go down,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: and he said, well, what do you want the expansion
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: rules to be? And I'm like, ah, I don't think
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: it can be as strict as in the past. I
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: think that they should be allowed to keep one less.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: So instead of eight at seven, he goes, nope, six.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, he took it one further.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: He took it further and then he ticked and he said,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: and I'll take it. I'll tell you about the draft.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: I think that each team should get the top two
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: picks for each of the first two years, because it
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: used to be in the NBA an expansion team. I mean,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: once upon a time they would get like the last
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: pick beyond the lottery that would be their first pick
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: in the league. So the lottery teams would go and
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: then they would insert the two expansion franchises in those spots.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: With the Charlotte Bobcats, they were prohibited from getting a
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: top three pick, but they did get the fourth pick
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: in the draft, and I think they did that with
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: the two previous teams before that, that they got fourth
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: and fifth, but they weren't allowed to touch the top
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: three for a couple of years. And his argument was
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: ten billion dollar franchise tags. Potentially, Hey, who wants to
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: invest that much money in a league where it's hard
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: to get off the ground. No, ten billion dollars. They
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: better change the rules so that they can sync their
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: teeth into the Vegas basketball fan and so that the
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Sonics fan who's already been tortured doesn't have to wait
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: another fifteen years to be relevant, like the Charlotte Bobcats.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: Charlotte Bobcats have been back in existence twenty years. They've
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: been irrelevant the entire time, and they even changed their name.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Their name even failed as they changed it back to
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: the Hornets to try to get Hornets old Hornets fans
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: to come out and watch the games again, because nobody
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: really attached or latched onto the Bobcats. They weren't good enough,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: they were never compelling, they were never interesting. And I'm like,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: you know what, that's a really good argument that if
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: you're gonna invest that much and you're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: new fan base, and then you're gonna have a jilted
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  Speaker 1: fan base that you're going to have to win over,
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  Speaker 1: win back over again. In some cases, then why put
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  Speaker 1: the two teams in such a big hole ten billion dollars? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that is a good idea. That you only get
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  Speaker 1: to protect six and the expansion process, and then in
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  Speaker 1: the actual NBA draft, you're guaranteed a top two picks
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  Speaker 1: two years in a row. You have a coin toss
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  Speaker 1: and the winning team gets to choose which year they
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  Speaker 1: want to be number one, and then the other team
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  Speaker 1: gets to be number two. So that's already just ingrained
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  Speaker 1: in the process. The first two years, Vegas and Seattle
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  Speaker 1: get the top two picks in each of those drafts.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that they'll do that, but I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of merit to the point of asking
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  Speaker 1: for it. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you kind of at the same time accidentally
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  Speaker 2: help your tanking issue because people then would be tanking
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  Speaker 2: for the third pick, which isn't as glamorous as tanking
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  Speaker 2: for the first or.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of years. Yeah, buys you a little tank.
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  Speaker 3: Time, little tank time, Tank time out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, might as well put on your tank top, Adam Silver,
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  Speaker 1: enjoy a little tank time.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: So you're helping everybody, right, Yeah, while they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: sift through how to manage tanking, which you add two
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  Speaker 1: more teams that if you're going to make them bad
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  Speaker 1: for years right off the bat. Now you've introduced more
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  Speaker 1: risk for tanking. I do believe that the expansion will
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  Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the tanking rules because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think this is a band aid situation. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a surgery situation. I think that the NBA has
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  Speaker 1: to completely blow up. And from what I'm hearing, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to, like Adam Silver can say, please don't focus
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  Speaker 1: on the tanking issue. We're looking into it. But behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes, from what I'm hearing, they're saying, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do something drastic. I am tired of
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  Speaker 1: answering questions about tanking in my league, and so I
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to do something drastic to reward the
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  Speaker 1: top picks, not to the worst team in the national Basket.
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  Speaker 1: I think the lottery's going to be done with, Thank goodness, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: get rid of it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's either I mean a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: not just you, think that it's fixed in some way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I just an or else you have people tanking
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  Speaker 2: to try to I mean, none of it seems like
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  Speaker 2: it's working the way that they're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get rid of things like we think you're
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  Speaker 1: rigging that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, if that's a thought we've already said for years,
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  Speaker 2: come up with a different plan, because whatever you're doing
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  Speaker 2: isn't convincing people that it's not rigged.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't want to wait eighteen years and then
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  Speaker 1: for the first five I don't want, not me. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want this fan base to have waited eighteen years
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  Speaker 1: to get the Sonics back and then they have to
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  Speaker 1: root for tanking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who wants to start the restart their fandom
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  Speaker 1: for the NBA hoping my team can be as bad
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  Speaker 1: as possible for the first five years so that we
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  Speaker 1: can load up on draft picks. That's no way to
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  Speaker 1: approach it. So fix your tanking issue by doing something draft.
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  Speaker 1: And I agree with my buddy Steve, like, hey, new World,
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  Speaker 1: New Era. The Las Vegas Golden Knights are off to
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  Speaker 1: a heck of a start. Their fans did not have
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  Speaker 1: to suffer through they could have, they still could have.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have to suffer through ten years of losing
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  Speaker 1: before they were relevant. Even the Kraken, we didn't suffer
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  Speaker 1: through the typical horrible period. I mean, I know they've
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  Speaker 1: only made the playoffs once, but they've been competitive since
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  Speaker 1: they first took the ice. Yeah, and it's because they
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  Speaker 1: adjusted some of the rules. And I think the NBA
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  Speaker 1: should learn its lesson from the Charlotte Bobcats not put
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  Speaker 1: either new expansion franchise through that. Again, where the Bobcats
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  Speaker 1: are at two decades still without really being interesting, still,
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  Speaker 1: don't won a playoff series two decades into it, and
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  Speaker 1: give them a little bit of a bump, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a start. And I like both of those ideas.
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  Speaker 1: Spansion goes from you get to protect eight till you
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  Speaker 1: get to protect six. And the draft picks. Yes, for
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  Speaker 1: the first two years of their existence, they get the
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  Speaker 1: top two picks in each of the drafts and they
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  Speaker 1: flip flop the year after in order.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get fans real interested in Yeah with those
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  Speaker 2: two drafts too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the top you get one of the
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  Speaker 1: top two eighteen nineteen year olds to build around. Now
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  Speaker 1: you've got a foundation, and even if you don't win
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  Speaker 1: for a little while, you're on the ground floor knowing
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  Speaker 1: we got two young, special, potentially special players to build around,
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  Speaker 1: and we can start identifying with them. We can go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and buy their jerseys even though they're eighteen nineteen
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  Speaker 1: years old. We can grow along with them as an
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  Speaker 1: expansion franchise. I thought it was an excellent idea from
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  Speaker 1: a source that typically doesn't come up with them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you get a couple drinks in and them,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, yeah, you'd.
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  Speaker 1: Get those different buddy, Yeah, the different buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get those.
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  Speaker 2: Those two players are a couple, a couple good draft picks.
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  Speaker 2: You mix that with Kevin Durant and SGA and GT Jr.
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  Speaker 1: And we're in a good player and Wimby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahb don't forget.
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  Speaker 1: Suddenly we got some cook.
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  Speaker 3: Something we might be Suddenly we might be working on something.
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  Speaker 1: All right. One last thing to close out this Monday
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