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Brad Griffen - Confident K-9 · Aired Out

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  Speaker 1: The bat and baste starts to be to tostant to
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  Speaker 1: totts distant toting cop.
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  Speaker 2: To All right, good morning to Fort Pierce, Florida this morning,
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  Speaker 2: where we already have a listener. And I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell you that it's Stacy Holton. I would never do that.
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  Speaker 2: I can only imagine what it is right now in
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  Speaker 2: Fort Pierce for a temperature, and I'm sure Stacy is
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  Speaker 2: gonna tell us, yes, I'll get to the forecast this morning. Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, just a great big good or into you,
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  Speaker 2: whoever you are, wherever you are. I may say the
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  Speaker 2: wrong day today, and it's just because my head is
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  Speaker 2: so it could be Thursday. I don't even know. There's
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  Speaker 2: just so much going on. There's so much happening. I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking about the Mountaineers playing tonight. I'm thinking about the
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  Speaker 2: US falling to Belgium last night in the World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot on my mind. Before I go
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  Speaker 2: an inch further, I want to just give a shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Cindy Galanka and the Bsheras and just the
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  Speaker 2: whole team over at FGB Theaters for hosting that last night.
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  Speaker 2: They opened up the Capitol Showplace five in Montpellier for
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  Speaker 2: free last night and filled every theater, all five of
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  Speaker 2: them with live coverage of the World Cup last night,
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  Speaker 2: and the theaters were packed at one point of the
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  Speaker 2: at least the theater that I was in was getting
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  Speaker 2: to the point of standing room only. It was packed
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  Speaker 2: last night. And how much fun it was to experience
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  Speaker 2: that too, to sit down with a bunch of fans
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  Speaker 2: and cheer on Team USA. When that one goal was
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  Speaker 2: made of the place just erupted. It was pop popcorn
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  Speaker 2: was flying. It was so much fun and just to
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you to the whole
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  Speaker 2: team at FGB Theaters for hosting that last night. Who
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  Speaker 2: does that? I mean, it's like you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: get that in a big city where they say, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, we're gonna we're gonna have a community showing
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  Speaker 2: of the World Cup and we're going to bring local
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  Speaker 2: soccer teams in Capitol Region Soccer Organization was there. There
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  Speaker 2: were soccer teams from all over Vermont that came in
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  Speaker 2: there and everybody just got together and had a blast.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to do that for the Super Bowl. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: just a great time last night. Happy birthday today. Sean McManus,
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  Speaker 2: William Gates, Lynn Bowbar, Cindy Hale. It's already the seventh
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  Speaker 2: of July. Wow, let's see any others here on the
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  Speaker 2: birthday list. Laura Herring and catano Ed Brown, Tommy Dial,
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  Speaker 2: Zoe Bobar on the list today, Brittany Vilbrin. Wow, we
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  Speaker 2: got a pretty good list here, Travis huff And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's it. Tracy Roberts, Ann Wilson. List is going on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: happy birthday everybody. Oh yeah, Oh, I'm just getting a
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  Speaker 2: message here. Good morning. JD. Just got word from the
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  Speaker 2: Green Mountain Boy Bon la Fayette says he has a
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  Speaker 2: new single coming out and he's playing his acoustic on
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  Speaker 2: his new track and a whole new website. I know
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  Speaker 2: that you guys are gonna let me know about this.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you'll give me details, and I'm hoping
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  Speaker 2: that Bond will be able to hop on very soon.
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  Speaker 2: That's so cool, that's so exciting. I love it. It
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  Speaker 2: is Tuesday. I should mention also back to FGB Theaters
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  Speaker 2: that it's five dollars Tuesday at the Capitol Theater. Five
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  Speaker 2: dollars every Tuesday at the Capitol Theater five dollars Mondays
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  Speaker 2: at the Paramount Twin right here in the Granite City.
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  Speaker 2: Sherylyn was there last night watching Minions and Monsters, So
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  Speaker 2: skip the line. Get on Facebook, Get on Instagram for
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  Speaker 2: any updates, Get on FGB theaters dot com for advanced tickets,
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  Speaker 2: h even your FGB card and find out all of
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  Speaker 2: the listings, everything that is playing. Uh it is, It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be. I mean, here we are day number two
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  Speaker 2: of the five day work week. Tomorrow. Ryan Ahearn from
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  Speaker 2: the Vermont Construction Academy is going to be my guest.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a conversation that you won't forget.
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  Speaker 2: Sweethearts and Heroes Day Wednesdays here on aired out Thursday
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  Speaker 2: is going to be even more interesting. Gay blod Genness
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  Speaker 2: and Rob Leclair both going to be in the studio
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, and we have a lot to
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  Speaker 2: unpack on that day. And then Friday is our day
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  Speaker 2: to goof off, have some fun, act like children and
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  Speaker 2: just lighten up a little bit. G is going to
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  Speaker 2: be in here your weekly dose of mental floss on
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  Speaker 2: Friday to just push a head first right into the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Brad Griffin is my guest this morning. He is sitting
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  Speaker 2: on the couch right across from me, and he has
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  Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful dogs I think I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, buddy, how are you good man? Good? Good
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  Speaker 2: to be back. What is what is her name?
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  Speaker 3: Look at this?
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  Speaker 2: This is Sasha.
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  Speaker 3: She's my princess, my personal dog or one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Are you just like super madly in love or what? Dude?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the best.
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  Speaker 3: She's the most lovable girl you could ever have. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty easy to fall in love with her.
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  Speaker 2: When you first came in. You know, I see the
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  Speaker 2: dark around the muscle there, and I'm like, whoa, this
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  Speaker 2: is it? Yeah, this is this is a mean dog.
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  Speaker 2: And then I got soaked with kisses. You did you did? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll get every crevice with that ton for sure.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't mess around, bro, She don't mess around. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know she's uh, she's eighty five percent German Shepherd
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  Speaker 3: and she's got some Belgian Melanoi there. That's why you
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  Speaker 3: see the black on the snow. Yeah, you know, she's
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  Speaker 3: she's a little mixture of everything. Really's got American Pitbull
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  Speaker 3: terrier in there, because every dog does these days.
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  Speaker 2: At least a little bit. But yeah, the ears, her
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  Speaker 2: eyes are what get me. Just bright yellow, beautiful, beautiful
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  Speaker 2: talk and just she knows she's staring at you. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: You're you're definitely uh are you the master or is
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  Speaker 2: she the mask?
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  Speaker 3: Because I got the fucking nuggets? I got the chicken nuggies, dude,
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  Speaker 3: that's why.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Uh confident Knine, that is your business. You're you're
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  Speaker 2: a doc trainer. I am.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so, uh, mostly I deal with reactive and
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  Speaker 3: aggressive dogs, but I mean I do anything from obedience
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  Speaker 3: to actually, I'm gonna be doing group sessions soon, took.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just put that out there to see what people
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  Speaker 3: would want to learn and stuff keep going.
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  Speaker 2: I'm listening, yeah, to see what.
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  Speaker 3: People would want to learn specifically, and then try to
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  Speaker 3: excuse me being pushy, uh, to see what people would
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  Speaker 3: want to learn and and base my groups around that specifically.
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  Speaker 2: I see, I see that folks like to get together
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  Speaker 2: and do I can't think of what it's called where
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  Speaker 2: they all go for a walk together, packwalks, packwalks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do some of those two. Yeah, we don't.
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  Speaker 3: We probably won't charge for that though. So it's one
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  Speaker 3: of those things that when we decide to go we'll
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  Speaker 3: just get a bunch of people together and try to
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  Speaker 3: help them out with their dogs and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, confident canine. Yep, how do we use You're on Facebook?
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'm on Facebook. I have a website, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of an old head dude. I got onto Instagram,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know how to fucking use it, So I.
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  Speaker 2: Think I think Instagram is a huge pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, you know, generally kind of a younger demo
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  Speaker 2: hangs out on on on Instagram. My nephews are still
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  Speaker 2: trying to get me to figure it out. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: same dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, every young kid I'm talking to, they're like TikTok Instagram. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and even for them that's old news. But for me,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I have no.
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  Speaker 2: I understand, I do, but you but you're on Insta.
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  Speaker 3: I am on Insta. Yeah, I have one video, so
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  Speaker 3: if you want to check that out.
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  Speaker 2: Well that'll I mean, that'll grow though.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well I'll put more on once I learn it.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm telling you right now, dude, you if managing
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  Speaker 2: the social media is that's a full time gig. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no shit, And it's like you're such a busy guy,
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  Speaker 2: you might have to have somebody else drive that bus
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  Speaker 2: for a little while. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeahs matter of fact, I just got ahold of it.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a client that's really cool. She's been
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  Speaker 3: super supportive. All of them are, but she's like extra
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  Speaker 3: supportive where she checks in with me, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and she was asking some questions about the three dogs
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  Speaker 3: that she has that I've helped her with.
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  Speaker 2: And dude, it was.
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  Speaker 3: Like six days until I got back to her because
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  Speaker 3: I just had so many messages and stuff, and so
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  Speaker 3: I apologize and told her, listen, I'm sorry, I'm super busy.
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  Speaker 3: Like we're literally planning a vacation, so we could just
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  Speaker 3: take a fucking break.
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  Speaker 2: You need it, you know, absolutely. Yeah, So it's probably
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  Speaker 2: the first vacation you've taken it in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Quite a while, well since last year. But last year
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  Speaker 3: I had some more free time than I do now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So but yeah, so this is taken off confident.
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  Speaker 2: Canine has has taken off.
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  Speaker 3: Like a fucking SpaceX rocket. What does that tell you, though, dude,
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  Speaker 3: that there's plenty of room for for well, plenty of
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  Speaker 3: room for growth, but there's just so many people that
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  Speaker 3: don't know how to communicate properly with their dog or
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  Speaker 3: just their dog has behavioral issues in general. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot of times, just like Caesar Molan says,
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  Speaker 3: you're you're training the people, not the dog.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh he was the guy that pinned that. Huh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think I don't know if he pinned it,
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  Speaker 3: but I've heard him say yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we all know someone who has an
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  Speaker 2: unruly dog at home, or you know, just maybe maybe
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  Speaker 2: just super hyper. Yeah, but maybe you know pinch of
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  Speaker 2: aggression too well.
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  Speaker 3: Behaviors, right, they It's kind of like when I said,
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  Speaker 3: last time I was here, shit rolls downhill. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: everybody says it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody says it.
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  Speaker 3: But but it's one of those things where if you
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  Speaker 3: have behavioral issues and they are are, oh, what's stagnant.
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  Speaker 3: If you have stagnant behavioral issues, they're not gonna stay stagnant.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna fucking grow more or less most of the time.
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  Speaker 3: If your dog is needing of burning energy and it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't get the proper outlets, those behavioral issues are gonna
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  Speaker 3: grow for sure.
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  Speaker 2: How what's your what's your opinion on on SPAE neoter
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  Speaker 2: do it? Do it?
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  Speaker 3: But don't do it if you can, excuse me, Ma,
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  Speaker 3: I thought she was gonna eat the mic. If you
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  Speaker 3: if you have a rescue dog, a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: the rescues will spay or neuter while they're there, regardless
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  Speaker 3: of the age. Unfortunately, like she was pade way too
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  Speaker 3: soon at three months, but because she's a rescue, I
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  Speaker 3: typically would say spae or neuter around a year. But
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  Speaker 3: if there's behavioral issues pre existing from them being sexually intact,
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  Speaker 3: then I would do it sooner. If that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: because it all depends on the size of the dog,
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  Speaker 3: the breed of the dog to and they become sexually
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  Speaker 3: active and behavioral issues can start to start to come out.
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  Speaker 3: So if it, if it happens sooner than a year,
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  Speaker 3: try to get it done sooner if if you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just think that all together dogs not reproducing because
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  Speaker 3: we have so many at this point, there's so much
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  Speaker 3: consistency for space, you know, when it comes down to it,
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  Speaker 3: when it, excuse me, needing of space. When it comes
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  Speaker 3: down to it, with rescues and all that, you see
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  Speaker 3: dogs and cats all over the place just spay and
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  Speaker 3: neuter regardless of the behavioral issues.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like there's uh, maybe a misunderstanding or an
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  Speaker 2: assumption or maybe just uh just a sense of a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of maybe ignorance when it comes to spay
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  Speaker 2: and neuter. Yeah, that really should be well communicated to
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  Speaker 2: a dog owner absolutely or or cat owner. What the
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  Speaker 2: pros are? I think the cons are way more, way
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  Speaker 2: more yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is is like, you know, you know just
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  Speaker 3: as well as I do, being a dude, what's the
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  Speaker 3: last thing you want somebody to don the nice snipping
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  Speaker 3: the old plums and so a lot of times what people,
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  Speaker 3: what people are thinking is like, I'm not gonna allow
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  Speaker 3: somebody to do that. He's naturally intact.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to take away his testicles or I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want to you know. But the problem is is,
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  Speaker 3: just like you said, the cons outweigh the pros all
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  Speaker 3: day long, all day long. If you make a list,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, over reproducing, right, the dogs are everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: That's just in space. That's just one little bit of
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  Speaker 3: the problem, and it's a fucking huge one.
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  Speaker 2: It is, especially in other countries. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the real problem, uh JD, is that people want
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  Speaker 3: breeds that are beautiful, right, that they find beautiful and
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  Speaker 3: there's breeds that are a typically beautiful to a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people. Rottweiler's, German Shepherds, Belgian malinoise.
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  Speaker 2: Shit.
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  Speaker 3: You see a lot of Great Pyrenees nowadays too, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of different But those are fucking guardian yes,
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  Speaker 3: and and high drive dogs.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So then not only do people not know necessarily how
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  Speaker 3: to train them or how to keep them around in general,
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of times, like rottweiler specifically, they were
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  Speaker 3: bred as a herding dog to begin with. There ain't
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  Speaker 3: no fucking most people that have a Rottweiler, including myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can explain that just dog. I'll explain to justice sacred.
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  Speaker 3: But but you see most people that have a Rottweiler,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have a fucking firm. There's no herding going on.
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  Speaker 3: They were also bred later to pull carts for butchers
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  Speaker 3: in rot wild Germany, and you don't see many rottweiler's
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  Speaker 3: pulling shit. So what they're bred for, they're not getting
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  Speaker 3: the proper outlet, they're not getting that out of life.
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  Speaker 3: And and a lot of people, you know, they're just
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  Speaker 3: kind of chilling with their with their animals. Maybe they
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  Speaker 3: leave to work for you know, anywhere from four to
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  Speaker 3: eight hours on a typical day, either they're left home
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  Speaker 3: or they're created. So you have all that time, all
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  Speaker 3: that energy building up, and then when they get home,
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  Speaker 3: they take them for a five minute walk and say
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  Speaker 3: all right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be couch potatoes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so you're telling the dog, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: know what you were bred for and everything, but ba,
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  Speaker 3: fuck that. Let's not do that at all. Let's just
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  Speaker 3: sit on the couch and have you stir in your
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  Speaker 3: fucking head. How's that doing?
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  Speaker 2: This? Is? Everything you're saying is such an understatement, man, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know. I mean even you know here, I hear
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  Speaker 2: you say five minute walk. I mean even even twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's just not enough. It's not even anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Close for working line.
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  Speaker 2: You got to commit to this stuff, yea. Before you know,
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  Speaker 2: so many of us are like, you know, this dog
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  Speaker 2: looks beautiful, blah blah blah. I want this dog, but
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  Speaker 2: we don't take all of these other things into factor. Facts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you have to sacrifice, you have to commit that you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be leading a different lifestyle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you a prime example. Okay, everybody fucks up.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody in life is going to fuck up at some point,
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  Speaker 3: and especially with dogs, you learn as you go if
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  Speaker 3: you haven't owned them all your life. Because I didn't,
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  Speaker 3: you know, before I got with Heather, I owned one
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  Speaker 3: dog and she was the most easy dog out there.
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  Speaker 3: Right when I got her. She was to be my
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  Speaker 3: demonstration dog for me, training and stuff. Right, so she
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  Speaker 3: was to be the dog the face essentially of the company,
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  Speaker 3: I guess because I'd bring her with me. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: when I got her, I was doing all my pro
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  Speaker 3: bono work and stuff, and that's when things started to
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  Speaker 3: take off, and I was here, there, everywhere. So guess
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  Speaker 3: what I didn't do fucking train the German shepherd in
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  Speaker 3: Malanou the way that I was supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: And guess what, the.
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  Speaker 3: Energy got built and built and built. She had no outlets.
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  Speaker 3: She tried fucking eating one of our sheep at the house,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean eating it. So she has a thing
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  Speaker 3: where she likes to tear fluff out of like beds
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  Speaker 3: and blankets and stuff. Well, sheep are fluffy, right, so
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  Speaker 3: she tore the fluff off of that sheep to the
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  Speaker 3: point where it was almost dead.
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  Speaker 2: We had to have a vet.
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  Speaker 3: Well no, actually we got the sheep in a car,
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  Speaker 3: then went to the emergency vet room and yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: the sheep's fine now.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's what can.
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  Speaker 3: This girl right here, this sweet innocent looking princess, when
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  Speaker 3: she didn't have proper outlets, did that. Yeah, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: what it can do.
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  Speaker 2: And she's looking at me right now. And if you
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  Speaker 2: have a problem with that, let me know.
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  Speaker 3: She is the sweetest girl, but she she needs her energy.
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  Speaker 2: Dreams. What an example?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well everybody, you know, here's the thing, just
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  Speaker 3: because you tag the line that the name trainer on
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  Speaker 3: someone doesn't mean they know fucking everything. Nobody knows everything,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody learns through experience, dude, You regardless of you're
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  Speaker 3: a fucking trainer.
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  Speaker 2: Or experience, finding out what's what's working right and then repetition,
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  Speaker 2: consistency facts. Dude.
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  Speaker 3: When I first started doing delivery, before I did training,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I had my fucking green horn era. I had people
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: giving me ship pulling pranks on me, being as oh yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: absolutely absolutely. I mean it's with any line of work,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: especially if it's all men majority and you have no
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: HR around, dude, things are gonna happen. Yeah, like there was,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: there was plenty of times, you know, and so over
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: time you build confidence, you start to know things, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: then you become the guy that gives the green horn ship.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: It's just the way of the world, you know. Everything.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: We have some friends who have a beautiful, beautiful doc
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: about just about the same size, not neutered, lovely doc.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I mean just wouldn't wouldn't harm you at all, but
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: just super super hyper. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you come
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: in the house and it jumps up on you. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: got pause right up here, I got the in the face,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: just crazy. Yeah, And we've asked how come, oh to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the owners, Yeah, how come you won't neuter him or
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: get into some dog training? Yeah? Too expensive. So that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: what people's first go to. Number one, number two. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: don't want to net him. I feel bad for him, yep,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I feel bad.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: As I said before the old snip snap.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mean there's there's a yat butt here.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: There's a wicked Yeah. But there's a huge butt.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Bro. This isn't a conda. Wow, what excuse me?
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: This is a sir mix a lot?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, yeah, absolutely beautiful. That was beautiful. But yeah, no,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you're absolute. There's a big butt there. It's it's it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if you don't want them snipped. If you
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: want the true answer, it doesn't fucking matter, because most
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: issues that are going to persist once the dog becomes
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: sexually mature would almost well, I'll say it's like a
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: fifty to fifty unfortunately actually, but majority of the time
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: if you neuter or spay your dog around the time
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: that they should be spader neutered, those problems.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Will it's fifty to fifty whether they exist.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: But the reason I'm laughing or smiling about it is
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: because it's not always a guarantee. But why not just
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: fucking do it right just in case those problems won't
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: exist now becauxactly you know. So it's like you know
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: with Rottweiler's and we'll go back to that in a
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: second if you want the history of those guys, because
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: they got my soul, dude, Like I love her, She's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: got my heart, but Roddy's got my soul, dude. But anyway,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: with a Rottweiler, if you don't soci expose them, they
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: are literally a guardian breed. They are bred to guard,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: they're bred to do a lot of things.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: As we said, the German shepherd too.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: German shepherd is yeah, so they're there, they are, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: it's more they're hurting dog herting line, okay, and so
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: they're more high energy and ready to do work with you,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: whereas a Rottweiler is also, but it's more of a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: guardian breed as well.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Sure, So specifically herting on the German shepherd's side for
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the most part, whereas they were Rottweilers were bread for herting,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: but they were also bred for guardians protectors as well.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my little girl is in the back seat the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: other day and she's got my cell phone and she's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: google imaging all of these breeds of dogs.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you guys have a dog yet?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Well, we've had we've we have had two dogs that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: are no longer with us, and our hearts just we're
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: destroyed when we had to say goodbye. So we're not
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: we're not ready to do that again. But but my
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: little girl is interested in getting a dog someday and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: has said when I move out in am I about
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to have a dog, and we said sure, and she
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is freaking out about some of the breeds. Doberman is
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: one of them that she's just like she's But but
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it's all how they look. She loves the look of
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the Doberman. She would love the look of what's her
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: name again, Sasha, you know, German shepherd, she loves the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: look of. But the one that she kept kept coming
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: back to was Rattweiler.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So you know, all right, let me give you some
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: so so I think you're done. Listen, No, it's not, dude, they.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: You're talking to a guy that's got two purebread of them.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I'm I They do drool a bit, but I promise
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: you this girl drools more than they do. It's serious,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I swear to god. Are they messy? Are they bowls
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: in China shops?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And it also depends on the size of the friggin
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: jowls that they have too. If you've got a big
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: old open hole down here at the bottom of their jowls,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: of course they're gonna drool. But honestly, they don't drool
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: as much as you'd think. That's more of like a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: like an English mastiff kind of thing to do, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: with the big old jewels. But but a little bit
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: of history on them, okay, because we're diving back from
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: what we were talking about before. I'm gonna make this quick. Rottweilers,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the ancestor of the Rothwild. Majority of the blood in
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: those dogs that you know as the rottweiler were bred
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: back in Roman times, and actually they migrated with the
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Roman soldiers from when they were in Rome to when
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: they ended up in Germany, and they ended up in
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a town called rot Wild, Germany, right, and they were
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: mostly protected. They were herders as well at that point,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: but they were mostly protective of the soldiers, that kind
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: of thing, watching, keeping guard. The local townspeople in rot Wild,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Germany loved the dog so much that they bred that
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: dog with another loved local dog to rot Wild, Germany specifically,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: and from those two you got what you now know
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: is the Rottweiler. And it used to be called and
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I may get this wrong, but when the rottweiler was
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: first bred, they called it the rottweiler is Vottweiler, butcher's
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: wound or something like that, but anyway, it was Rottwild
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: or butcher's hound. And the reason they called it that
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: is because they bred them specifically two pole carts to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: town for the butchers, and they would also use them
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: to guard the money. They'd keep the money satchel around
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: their neck to guard and protect the money from when
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: they go to town and back. Yeah, and so hurting,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: pulling carts and guardian protective behavior essentially is what they
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: were bred for. So Rottweilers have multiple purposes and they're
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: used even now for multiple things. Rescue work. They used
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to be military and cop dogs, but their bite forces
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: so much that they were breaking bones in people. So
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: they There was a few different reasons, but that was
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: one of them that they stopped doing that. But shit,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: they were going with soldiers in World War One or
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: World War two, with soldiers on the battlefield and stuff,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: so unreal. Yeah, they're all around kind of dogs.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Fascinating.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I may you know, because I'm not
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a fucking dictionary or excuse me.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I think, oh, well, I appreciate that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Yeah, no, so I may have gotten a
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: little bit twisted, But the reason they were bred, there's
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: no twisting that there was all around hurting protection and
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: hurting protection, hurting protection and what was the other one
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I had said, I can't remember, to be honest with you.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: My brain's going on the cart pulling, KRT pulling. That's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: what it was.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so KRT, pulling, hurting and protection.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes my brain fucking freezes up. Maybe it's all
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the shit I used to do.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It's just fascinating stuff, man, Yeah, yeah, fascinating stuff. She
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: also said, uh ooh, I hear in the back seat
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: She's like, ooh uh look at this great dane. Oh god, yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I don't see.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: There's only one breed that I know, like everything about
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the others. I know enough to train them, but I
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: don't know they're they're complete history.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So wow, Uh, you're You're really successful, dude. You're doing
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: really really well.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is incredible. I appreciate you so having
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: having a dog that has some aggression? Have they ever
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: had aggression toward you? You show up at somebody's house
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: or they bring their their aggressive dog to your training facility.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I usually go to their house. Okay, but are you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: shitting yourself when you're when you're trying to walk in
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the front door and you got a dog that's like
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: gonna take your leg off.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it as real as I can with you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: You got to grab your fucking nuts before you go
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: in there, because sometimes it's sketchy. I mean, dude, there's
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: been times where and typically you don't see this with
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: this breed, but Newfoundland, you ever heard of a Noofi's Yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: a big one hundred and fifty pound guys, right, or
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: you're dealing with a cane corso or whatever it may be,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and you got to grab your nuts and walk in
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the door like you own the place. But the thing
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: is is I have I have a bite suit.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: That's how I come home every day, by the way,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah to Sherman, I grab my nuts and I act
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: like it never never works for me. Yeah, well never.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: You still gotta be brave to get through the door.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And still try.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, you got it. But I have a bite suit,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: so it helps. You know, I got like four or
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: five inches of padding in that fucking thing. So if
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I go into a dog that I know, excuse me, girl,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: if I go into a house where I know there's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: pre existing aggression or where the owner tells me there
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: probably is, I don't take the chance. I put that on.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Before I go in A thick suit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Pretty thick suit. Yeah, it covers torso and legs.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: And then I wear work boots and and.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Uh really padded gloves as well in case they bite
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: me in the hand. But essentially what you're doing is
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of times with aggression with dogs, it's what's
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: called learned aggression, right, because you have inherent aggression, then
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: you have learned aggression. Almost all aggression has learned anyway, regardless.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: They learned that going forward, having forward body body movement,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: body posture, and wanting to either cause harm and or
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: get into somebody's space, whether it's another dog or human,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: makes that threat back away, right, So they've learned that
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: they can push away a threat either by encroaching on
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the space or doing damage when you have the bite
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: suit on. Essentially, what you're doing, especially first meeting them,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: is letting them ranch on that fucking that bite suit
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and you have no reaction whatsoever. So it's not getting
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: them anywheres with you. You see, that's the first part
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: of the psychological training that you're doing with the dog.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Now that dog knows this guy's different.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: He's not afraid of me.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Right, this guy I ain't budgeting when I want him
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: to budge.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But can't this aggressive dog smell the pheromones of fear
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: coming out of coming out of you? Even through that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: fix suit. You just got to pretend as well as
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you can. And it's for me.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: It's not fearful. I don't know, man, Maybe this goes
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: back to the same thing I was talking about with
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: the brain farights I have. Yeah, maybe all the time
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: that I spent on the brink of death. I don't know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: But at this point I could give a fuck less.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I walk into that house like, please chew on me.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I don't give a shit.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: But but it is sketchy at the same time, it's
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: not like it's not like I want pain, you know.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I just know that it's possibly coming, and you get
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: ready for it. But when it comes to the actual
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: getting bit, yeah, you gotta breathe for a second. You
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: just can't be fearful, you know, like my grandmother. My
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: grandmother was attacked as a kid, so she's fearful. Even
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: fucking chihuahua came up and licked her legs, she'd be fearful.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: You can't be like that. But you definitely gotta get
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: ready for.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: The same thing. Same thing with my buddy Andy, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: he's autistic, so it's really a trigger point. Yeah, he's
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: any dog, any size, actually, if they're not on a leash.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And you know our rule that we're always repeating no
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: matter what is if we stay calm, the dog stays come.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And he'll say that over and over. And so I mean,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: if we're out for a hike or something, all of
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: a sudden, coming around the corner, the opposite direction without
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: warning is a dog running off leash. Bang. We have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to say we stay calm, the dog stays.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Come and cool gi.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even if the dog comes up and stiffs you,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: if we stay calm, the dog stays come.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, And he's not wrong, dude. So you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I feel kind of like a fucking tree hugger when
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I say it to people, but it's so real. Your
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: energy absolutely affects a dog. Absolutely. If you have a
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: dog that's reactive right on the end of the line,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: barking at other dogs, other people, that kind of thing,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: if you're nervous and tense, so is that dog going
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: to be okay? So you have to take a deep
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: fucking breath, calm down, and handle it as well as
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: you can handle it. This is why it's a big
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: deal to get help for training if you need it,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: because you need to know how to handle the fucking situation,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: you know, or else you're just gonna make it worse. Actually,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: before you go or before you go on, I want
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: to say this. The worst thing that anybody can do,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: and I'm talking to everybody, Okay, whether your dog's reactive
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: or aggressive, is start doing this ah, calling their name,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: getting all excited and fucking crazy, because that's just gonna
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: drive the behavior home for them. Don't fucking do that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: If anything, stay calm, confident, and as quiet as possible
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: while being able to give a correction, whether it's a
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: pop on the leash, whether it's using a fucking squirt bottle,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: whatever it may be, Stay calm and confident in that situation.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Don't raise your voice.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even if the even if your dog is latched
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: onto another dog, an actual fight happened, the last thing
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: you want to do is raise that energy and try
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: to pull the dog away. So, I mean, we can
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that's a deeper thing, pulling the dog or not pulling
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: the dog. There's a way to induce the gag reflex
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: to get any dog to open up its mouth and
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: pull that off another dog.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Wow, I have so many questions for you. I'm gonna
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: ask you about that collar here in just a second.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: But oh yeah, we got a question here. There's a
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: guy that puts on a muscle on his shepherd dog.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: He is an older dog, and he really I'm guessing
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: they're saying, really couldn't hurt someone. Why do you think
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: that they could be that way? Well, I'm not totally
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: sure I understand the question.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I guess why would we muscle an older shepherd.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: If there's a potential issue, If the dog is a
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: wrist to other dogs and or people, that's when you
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: should mussele the dog. Otherwise I don't you know. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: mean there's every I think I said this last time
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I was on every instance. Every dog is individual, so
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: it all depends. I mean, if it's showing behaviors that
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: you think that would help, putting a muzzle owned help
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: in general. Sure, but I don't get the question to
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: be on I don't understand.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see if they can clarify. But you know this,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: issuld say every relationship. Every dog has their own personality,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: just like humans, and then every throw a human in
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: there who has their own personality. The two of them together,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it's it's a unique chemistry between the two. It can
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: be a one. I'm sure it can be. And you
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: know what, what seems to be one of the biggest
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: problems is the word neglect. It's it's there's all different
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: kinds of forms of that, neglect of attention, neglecting of
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: the time and sacrifice that you need to put into
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: that dog, whether it's signing up for obedience classes, getting
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: the right dental care, getting the right vet care, making
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: sure that you're you're sacrificing enough time needed to give
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: that dog what it needs, whether it's if it's a
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: runner or whatever, and if they need a good hour
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: of heavy running, frisbee, tennis, ball, swimming in the pond,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, hiking. You have to be committed to
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: that man. And when you come home at the end
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of the day and you're dragging, you're tired.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Get a dog that Get a dog that fits that
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: kind of lifestyle. Get yourself a fucking English bulldog. Get
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: yourself a you know, well, not even a dots and
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: because they require more too, but just a dog that
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: fits that lazy lifestyle. There's plenty of them. But here's
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the thing is all the information on breeds exists somewheres.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: It's really hard though, for people to want to do
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: all the research, especially if the research says maybe this
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: dog isn't for you, or a lot of times they'll
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: say not for your typical first time dog owner. Most
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: of the research I did when I first got my
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Rottweiler said that, and I was like, but earmuffs can't
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: hear this. You know, that was before training and shit.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: So a lot of times people I want, I wish
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: the information was out there more as much as possible,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: so it's it's ready enough for somebody to find very
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: quickly and want to read. And that's why I try
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: to help as much as I can, even for free.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: When it comes to consulting with people and stuff like that,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I've done less of it because I've had less time lately,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: but I try to. I try to keep everybody up
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: on the breeds that they have, you know, especially if
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: they're high energy, especially if they require a lot of exercise,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: like you're saying, you know, a lot, whether it be
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: mental or physical outlets, they need a lot. And so
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: but the it's readily available if you're looking for But
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't do the research. So what
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: you'll see is somebody has a breed kind of like
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: we were talking before, that doesn't fit their lifestyle, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: they just try to make the dog fit their lifestyle.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got a fran is saying he has to keep
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the muzzle on because this dog will go after you,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: will go after you. And this is what the the
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: dog owner is saying. So you know, I think what
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they're asking is And I'm not sure if this is
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the one that I hear about, but it's like once
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a week or so, right here in this studio, I'll
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: see and hear a dog that is fitting this description perfectly.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Here that is barking, super loud, super aggressive, big big
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: dog right here on North Main Street. And it's a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: guy that I think parks right here and gets out
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: with this dog.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I've heard of this Is it a German Shepherd?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I think I've heard of this dog.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's notorious.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: It's you know, if we're going out in public, wherever
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: it may be. We want to go to the Wednesday
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: concert in the park, we want to go to the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: farmer's market, we want to go wherever. Yeah, our dog's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: gotta be muzzled and or act well.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't get there without the muzzle dude,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: the muzzle. You condition your dog with the muzzle to
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: eventually get.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: To the good behavior.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: But you also have to have the training in between.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: You can't just throw a muzzle on and think the
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: fucking dogs just gonna stop the behavior. You have to
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: you have to use positive punishment and positive reinforce.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: So, I don't want to get too deep into it,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: but they're two parts of operant conditioning that you hear
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: all over the place with training. It's one of the
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: most basic conditionings that people use a lot. Positive just
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: means you're adding something. Punishment means you're trying to get
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: rid of a behavior again, So there's positive and negative punishment.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: There's positive and negative reinforcement. Positive and negative just mean
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: ad or subtract. Punishment means you're trying to get rid
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: of a behavior. Reinforcement means you're trying to keep a
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: behavior going. So if you use positive punishment like a
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: correction on the leash right to stop the behavior, snap
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: the mindset, okay, You're then going to use positive reinforcement
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: like a treat. Treats our positive reinforcement and show them
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: that going away from the thing that they were barking
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: at is the behavior you want to see, and you
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: reinforce that with the treat.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: That makes sense, it does. I have a a very
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: dear friend who has a little chihuahua and a rescue
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: rescue chihuahua who came with some baggage. But they have
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: made huge strides with this dog. However, and I know
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: this is probably just part of the breed. When someone
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: comes to the door, or when someone's in the house
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and they're getting ready to leave, this chihuahua goes nuts.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It's all about the door. I don't know, if you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I think. And it frustrates the owners of the dogs.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: They're they're frustrated scolding, but it's not making it different.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: They just see you as unstable. That's when when you
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: scold a dog, especially if you're yelling and stuff, they
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: see you as unstable. You might get uh, you might
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: get them to listen, But a lot of times if
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: you're raising your voice like that or whatever, it's out
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: of fear. It's not really them following you. It's just
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: them being scared in the moment.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a chihuahua, dude, he's you know, a
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: thousand pounds. Yeah, he's massive. He doesn't give a shit
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: how many times you're telling him to knock it off,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to stop barking. You know. If if once I'm in
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the house, it's all good. Yeah, but if I even
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: look at that door, take a step toward it, it
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: just explodes with with barking. Dude.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Little dogs and puppies are the fucking easiest to train
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: in my eyes. Okay, this is my opinion, but in
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: my experience, they're the fucking easiest because I can get
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: bit on the hand by them fuckers all day and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: it's nothing, you know. So if I'm doing the training,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: if you have like an uh, well you say aggressive chihuahua, yes,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: they're forward behavior. It's more like you see a lot
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: of chuawa is guarding, like they'll guard their owner, guard
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: their resources.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: There were one person dog.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and and they get that little dog
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: complex thing going on, and they guard, they do all
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the things. They try to act tougher than they are,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: but it comes from a lot of times it comes
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: from a place of insecurity too. If they don't have
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the training a little dog like that, it's almost like
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: they got to compensate, right. But anyway, the point is
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: is with a dog like that. Pinning, just pinning the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: dog works amazing. And what I mean by that, it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: got different names, pin, alpha, role, all the fucking things.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: If you ever watch The Dog Whisperer back in the
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: day with again Caesar Malan right now, some people consider
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: him the goat. Some people don't consider them at all.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I personally think what he does as a behavioralist makes
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of sense. So what he'll do with a
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: little dog like that, and any dog for that matter,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: is you have to talk.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: To the dog.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Speak to the dog as instinctively as possible, like another
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: dog would. How would a leader of pack talk to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: a dog that's acting out.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Of pocket like this with its teeth?
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, So what you would do is, let's say we
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: had two dogs here, Sasha and another dog, right, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Sasha decided she was gonna nip and bite that other
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: dog in the face. Okay, that's a serious reaction that
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: deserves a serious consequence. That serious consequence that I would
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: use is what's called pinning, where I would roll the
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: dog onto their side, okay, and I would make sure
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: they stay there, and I'd take three fingers right to
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: resemble teeth from another dog. Pack leader I'd put them
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: around the neck and I would just hold her there,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: not pressuring, not pinchon into her neck too much or anything,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: just holding her there, okay, until her whole body goes submissive,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: she becomes calm, everything gets light, not tense, right, and
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I would go to get up, because I'm over her
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: when I do this. I'm not doing it from the side.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I'm over her when I do this, and so I
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: would wait till she gets light, all surmised, and then
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I would go to walk away.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: If she went to get up too quickly.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I would go right back to what I was doing
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: before until she submisses more. When I go to get
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: up and she has stayed there while I go to
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: walk away, that's when it's done, okay. And a lot
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: of times you'll see it, yeah, and a lot of
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: because that's what a pack leader would do.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Dog to dog.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: That's what they would do. What you'll see with an
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: alpha dog or a pack leader. If somebody's got too
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: much energy, somebody's acting out of pocket, and the leader
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: isn't okay with it, he will literally put this is
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: why you see with dominant energy. With dogs, he'll put
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: his head over them to begin with right, and if
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: they don't act appropriately and calm down, he'll then put
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: his whole body to them to push them over on
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: their side on the ground, And a lot of times
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: he'll use his mouth on their neck to just keep
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: them in place and say, ah, that's enough.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Fascinating?
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I like to talk to the dogs as
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: instinctly as possible because I feel like that's what gets
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: through to them the most. We don't always have to
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: roll a dog to alpha role or pin a dog.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: It just depends on the behavior. Again, everything is individual.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people have, as you well know,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: very strong opinions about the shock collar.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, got one a shock collar. I got one
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: on her right now.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Sherilyn wants to get one for me. You know, she's
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: got one on her right now.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's electric stimulation. Okay, shot colors
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: are a fucking I mean, you can call it one.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: But there really I know, believe me, I know, and
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I have to I have to try to educate clients
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: and stuff. And honestly, again we talked about this last time.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: It's just like the prong caller. There's a stigma, right,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: But when you educate people on them and then you
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: ask them, hey, is it okay if I just show
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: you you know what could be the result of us
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: using these tools and how good it could go? And
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: they say, yeah, I guess fucking night and day.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Dude, Sure, night and day.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: But anyway, it's not a shot caller in that sense.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: It's got electric stimulation, but it goes zero or from
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: level zero.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: To one hundred. You're never gonna use one hundred.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I keep it on level like five to eight, on
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: a working level to teach the dog what the e
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: coller is and stuff. I mean, I could get into
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: how I teach, but there's no point. It's a long thing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: But anyway, very little level. If there's a distraction level, yes,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: that requires a little bit, you know, a little higher level.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: So if they're distracted, they can still feel it and
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: use impulse control to make a decision like, oh I
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: felt the stimulation, I should go back to my owner,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: that guy.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And it's not necessarily painful, No.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: It's when it's on a low level, it's and I
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: think I said this last time too. With owners, what
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I'll do is if they have they feel some type
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: of way about the essentially shock collar, right, the fucking
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: the notorious shock collar. I'll have, yeah, right, the fucking
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: electric chair for dogs, whatever the fuck you want to
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: call it. Anyway, So I have them take the e
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: caller stimulation collar right and put it on their hand,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: and I'll put it on a working level like five
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: D eight, like I told you, and I'll say, tell
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: me if you feel this, okay, And so I'll be
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: hitting the button because they don't fucking feel it right, right,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, so that's the normal level that
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I would use with a dog, like, oh, I didn't
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: even feel it. I said, okay, keep it on you.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna raise the level. You tell me when you
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: do feel it. And everybody's got a different tolerance, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: most of the time it's towards like fifteen or twenty
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: that they'll feel it. There's a lot of times I
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: don't even use that as a distraction level, as a
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: higher level, so majority of the time what they actually
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: end up feeling doesn't even get used on the dog.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Fascinating, you know what I mean. But so it's you. You
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be hitting the button to make your dog yelp
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: in pain.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we do have to talk about the inevitability
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: that those things happen. Okay, So if you're working the
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: e caller to the dog through recall, which it should
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: always be through recall first. That way, the first go
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: to behavior for your dog when it feels the stimulation
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: is to boop, come back to you, or check in
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: with you, whatever it may be.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: No, the dog knows that you're controlling that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Well, the dog feels it, and you teach it through
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: leash pressure, so the dog realizes when you hit that. Yes,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: it notices, and it comes back to Mama or Dada
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: or whoever. But it is inevitable that you may put
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: that dog on a little bit higher level than necessary.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: It happens.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: It happens, No, but it only it happens because, yes,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: if you need to. But even if you need to,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: sometimes you'll accidentally put the level up. And the reason
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: for it is if your dog has a fuck ton
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: of hair, those prongs don't make contact correctly, so you're
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: thinking the dog's not feeling it, and so you put
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: it up higher and then all of a sudden it
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: touches the skin and it's too much.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: It is inevitable in training that that happens. Just turn
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: the fucking level down. Yeah, you gotta work the dog
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: through if it, like, you know, got fearful of that
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: situation or something, Sure, you work the dog through that.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: You bring it back down to a level they can handle.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: You don't sit there and just continuously shock the fuck
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: out of it.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: We tend to jump to the word inhumane too much,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: too often, too easily. And what we have to do
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: is take a step back and and listen and learn
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: and educate ourselves about this instead of jumping to our
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: own conclusions. We have to we have to learn how
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: this can be a tool that can be used to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: effect of lee responsibly, humanely for dog to get the attention. Yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: So so let me ask you this, JD. And I
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: know you can answer this just like anybody that's you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: coherent enough and a smart enough person or common sense enough.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I should say, when you have dogs out in the wild,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: what do they do to each other if they want
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: to communicate something? If again, let's go back to the leader,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: the leader of the pack, the alpha dog, how does
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: that dog communicate with another How does a mother dog
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: communicate to her pups when they're acting out of pocket.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Ah, the neck, But what are they doing to the neck?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Are they what are the there's a word for it.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I use it all the time. What are they doing
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: to the dog dominance? It's correcting.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: They're correcting the behavior right by doing whatever.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of times it's mouth whatever. It doesn't mean.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: The point is, even in the natural world, there's corrections
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: for a dog. Okay, dogs don't fart pixie dust. We
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: don't fart fucking pixie dust. The natural world has corrections
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: to it, right, there's I don't want to say that
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: the natural world is mother Nature is a bitch, okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: And when it comes to training a dog you need
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: to be able to speak to that dog naturally in
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: doing so. That doesn't mean and I'm not saying anything
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: about against purely positive trainers.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I won't.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of them that do really well.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I'm a balanced trainer, so it's different. I'm speaking in
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: my experience. You need to be able to use corrections
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: because in the wild, naturally dogs respond to corrections. There
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: are corrections used, Okay. So I think when it comes
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: down to people being like, oh, I don't want to
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: correct the dog, let's just be nice. You know the
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: world is full of rainbows and fucking skittles. They're gonna
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: rain down from the clouds and I just think you
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: need to be as common sense as possible and use
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: what the dog understands. Does that make sense?
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow? Who? Brad Griffin is the founder and CEO
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: of Confident Canine. Find him on social, Find them on
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the web, learn more, get in touch easy to do
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: nine seven thirty four thirty two. And I'm going to
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: post this up in the comments too, with your email
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: as well for folks to get in touch with you.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Where you located out.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Of Randolph for the most part.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you travel to someone's home.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: I travel everywhere. I go to fucking Bennington.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I go to Benning. Yeah, I go to New Hampshire.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I go to Oia. What if they need me on there?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: You've had some videos, some you've shared with me, some
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: that I've seen on your social that are remarkable, and
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you've said to me, Yeah, that dog would have scared
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the ship out of you and look at it now.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: That's really cool man. What's that feel like for you?
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: When you leave, you you say good bye to this dog.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I'll see you in a couple of days, you get
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: in your car, real progress, like real, no bullshit, serious progress.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: When you get in your car and you drive home
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: by yourself knowing that you've made this progress with this
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: this animal. How does it feel? How's it feel? You know?
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: It's out why you do this? It's not why. I mean,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I love working with dogs in general, but but why
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: I work with aggressive and reacity.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I will say it's what is that.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Third three point three percent? It's a third of it,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: you know, But but the feeling of it is one
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: hundred percent why I do it?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Because I could, but I could get that same feeling
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: of just we're doing a little bit of leash work
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: with the dog, you know, just having that dog learn
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: under me. But when it comes to the real rehabilitation
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: and the real progress, nothing makes me happier. And I
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: had this happen to me the other day. I've had
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: it happen a few times, but specifically the other day.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: There was a German shepherd named Clyde that I had
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: as a board and train, and to begin with, he
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: was fear aggressive, hiding behind his mom's legs, fucking nipping
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: at you. If you came too close all that, like
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: ready to ready to do what he had to do
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: because he was so fearful of a situation. And I
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: seen his mom and him walking in downtown Randolph the
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: other day all willy nilly, him fucking basically prancing around
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: because he's so good in front of other people and dyeah, yeah,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: king shit, fucking tird mountain dude. Yeah yeah, that's a
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: that's a great feeling. Yeah, yeah, that is so cool. Yeah,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I gotta have you checked the videos recently. No, So
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I got a little Boston Terior right now. This is
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: just funny, But I got a little Bostonia right now
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: named Lasso, and he's he's he gets excited. Dominant is
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: what it's called. So when he's over stimulated, he shows
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: dominant behavior. But his dominant behavior is to bite other
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: male dogs in the dick. So he's a literal dick biter. So,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: so the videos that I have, you know, they're fun,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: they're they're somewhat comical, but I'm I'm walking people through
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: what I'm doing. Lasso l A S s O. All right, Yeah,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: the the most recent one. He has a Because when
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: you have a Boston Terrier or a Frenchy or whatever.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: They're bracky cephalic, so their muzzles are really pushed in.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: There is no muzzle, So to put a muzzle on
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: the snout that doesn't exist. You have to have a
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: full faced mask. So he looks like Hannibal Lecter and
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: the fucking thing too. So I call him doctor Dick Bier.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: So we're working with doctor Dick Bier.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Here is right down your monitor. There is right there.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's him. Yeah, that's the beginning of it.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: When we just put the uzzo and this is him.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: What you're gonna see here you can't hear the video.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: What you're gonna see here is a correcting lasso for
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: every time he goes underneath another dog.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: And the reason for that is because we want.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: To get rid of the behavior altogether and streamline communication.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: So we're not going to differentiate between male or female,
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: nor are we going to differentiate between if it looks
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: okay or it doesn't. Truth be told, he can lift
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: his little head and sniff a butt just like any
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: other dog. You're also gonna see me allow this tan
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: dog to be way more pushy than I typically ever would,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: and that's because lasso exhibits typical domine of behavior as
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: well that I wanted to correct for now, at the
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: end of this, you're gonna see lasso on e caller.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: You're gonna see him get over stimulated, and you're gonna
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: see that immediately he goes in for the nuts boop.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: I use stimulation. He avoids the conflict on all great
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: session today. That's why you call her can be so
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: beneficial if you use it the right way, because in
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: an instant like that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: You can't be paying You have to be paying attention
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to that happens fast.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Dude, milliseconds. Like if if if he didn't have that
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: muzzle on and I wasn't paying attention, that dog would
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: have been castrated and fucking point two. And I mean,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: like lasso, he does damage. Like this is no joke
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: just because he's a little dog. He'll fucking do real damage,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: like vet trip damage.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: So it's a real thing.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And right now just seems to be kind of dominant.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, I'll let y'all sniff me.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Well, he's very tense. If you look at his body language,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: he's super tense. Yeah, And this is why we didn't
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: differentiate on whether it looks okay or not, because it's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: it is within milliseconds, and to be honest with you,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: the behavior itself just isn't fucking okay anyway. For a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: typical dog going underneath to sniff a wiener or whatever
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: it may be is fine, But for him, we can't
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: allow it at all. He can sniff a butt like normal,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: but we can't allow this because the battle instinctual behavior
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: is already hard enough. So we have to streamline communication
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: and show him that just one singular behavior isn't okay
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: all the way around.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it happened so fast that you had to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: show it and slow them mo. Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Literally, I couldn't. I couldn't do commentary over it because
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: it was so fast. Yeah, so I had to slow
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: it down.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: That's fascinating. And you know, these dogs need to they
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: need to learn how to socialize with other dogs. They
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: need to be they need to understand that other dogs
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: when they see them, whether they're on a hiking trail
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: or anywhere, that other dogs are curious and they're gonna
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: come up and be sniffing them, and you're allowed to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: sniff them too. But everybody's got to play by the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: rules and be respectful. Yeah, so you're absolutely right, JD.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: With this guy, it's a little bit different though in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: the sense of when he's with females, and for the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: most part, if he's not super excited, he doesn't have
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: that excited dominance.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: He's fine.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, So with females all together, he's fine. He can socialize,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: he plays with him, he jumps, he does all the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: fucking things. But with males, if he gets excited, he
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: goes right to the testosterone, which is super dominance driven.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Wow, so he does.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: He is technically socialized, but he doesn't know how to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: use impulse control and avoid conflicts. So that's what we're
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: working on with him.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: This is so so cool. I'm gonna show everybody your page, okay,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: so that we can all see this. Please hop on
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: follow have a look at this. This is Brad Griffin
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: from Confident Canine right here in Central from at Randolph
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and you'll travel, but folks can also come to you.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: They also can. Yeah, they can come to me. We can.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: We can meet wherever. You got a park that you
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: like to go to, not dog parks. I despise dog
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: parks for multiple reasons. But if you got a place
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: that you go a hiking trail something like that. I'll
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: meet you there, a river, I'll meet you there. Your house,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I'll meet you there, or you can come to mine.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: You got some uh some real nice comments from from
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: your customers too, some great testimony. Awesome, dude, this is
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: really fascinating stuff. Please, if you get a chance, tell
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: my eleven year old the pros and cons to certain breeds.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I try to a little bit about the uh uh,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: the great team didn't work?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, would you just tell? Would you tell her? I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: don't know enough about them to even.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Say that they don't They don't live very long. Okay,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: bottom line, Yeah, that's true with a lot of big dogs. Uh.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Let's see comment here. I have a beagle male and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I have a female dogs. How do I get him
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: to get used to female dogs?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: What? Well, I'd have to know the behavior he's exhibiting.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Typically I do an evaluation first to see this, then
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: we make a game plan on Huh. So I can't
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: tell you how to get your dog used to it.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: It'd be mostly just how do you do a good
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: introduction to begin with? If we were basing it off that,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: But if there's something being stirred up with sexual energy
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: or something like that. I'd have to see it to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: be able to help you.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, this Gianesi is also saying, I have a dog
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: that has ADHD. Can a dog have ADHD?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have to hear specifics on that too, But
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: she probably just means full of energy, doesn't want to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: pay attention, I would assume, is what she's saying. Yeah
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: kind of, yeah, right exactly. So with that, you would
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: want to make sure that they have the proper mental
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: and physical outlets, drain that energy as much as possible,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: get the dog into what's called a following state of
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: mind pack mentality, and then try to do some impulse training.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: If you have a dog like that, they don't need
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: help getting excited, right, they don't. They don't need play.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: What they need is help decompressing, decompressing and yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: and just being able to to in what we call
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: in the training world, be okay with doing nothing. That's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: what they need help with, is being okay to sell
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: southe and do nothing. So a dog like that, that's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: where you'd want to focus, But you want to drain
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: the energy first, otherwise it's gonna be the same thing.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: There's so many. There's so many of us that need
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: uh something in our lives, whether it's a companion animal
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: of any form, cat, dog, we're thinking about a dog.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: We're not sure what size, what breed, is a mixed breed,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: something that we want to stay away from? Do we
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: go to the humane society? Do we contact a breeder?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: What do we do? Uh? These are these are all
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: real huge questions. This is not the kind of thing
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: where I think I'll you know, you go to the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: store and you buy a dog and if it doesn't
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: work out, you return it. It just doesn't work like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to laugh.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: But in the rescue world it happens all the time,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: and it just doesn't work like that.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: There's not enough space. You need to really educate yourself,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: do your due diligence and find out what exactly what
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: it is that you need and is this a good match.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a lapdock that you need. Maybe maybe you're
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: out running hiking trails all the time.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'll give you another example.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Uh, you see a lot of malanwas now Belgian Malinois. Right,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: you see them more than ever because they fucking look cool.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: And police training videos and military videos, but people don't
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: actually sit with themselves and say, am I doing fucking
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Navy seal type training? Can I actually have this dog?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Like this dog is gonna be like Spider Man on
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the fucking walls. Man, and I don't have the energy
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: to take. But a lot of times people like, that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: dog's fucking awesome. I'm gonna be awesome. I'm gonna have
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: this dog and it's gonna be awesome with the top down.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, man. Yeah, But
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: you know, here's the thing. If you are active and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: you do live a lifestyle to where you can train
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: that dog, but it'd be a fucking amazing dog. That
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: thing will be an acrobat.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: What's your opinion on pit pulls?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Fucking love them, dude, I love them. It's the same
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: thing goes back to the training.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: There are things that breeds are particularly inherently prone to. Uh.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Pit bulls are prone to aggression. Any any bully breed
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: are prone to aggression. That's why the training has to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: start from a young age.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Are you talking actual neurology, yeah, brain chemistry.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, of the of the actual marriage, yes, correct in
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: the brain, yes, the firing of neurons or whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: so so, but yes, they're prone to inherent aggression. So
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: that's why a lot of times when you have not
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: even just an untrained pit bull, you may not have
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: trained properly in that one specific behavioral area, or there
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: could be uh issues in the wiring of the brain
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: because the dogs are overbred at the brain or whatever.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: But a lot of times what you see is the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: dog just isn't trained properly, and so those inherent behaviors
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: come out more prominently over time. And and then you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: see the pit bull that's on the end of the leash,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: which is creating more tension, which just escalating the situation,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: and the dog looks like he wants to kill another dog.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: So if you start with training from a young age,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be way better off. That's when you see
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: the pit bulls that are all lovey, all smiles.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: So I've seen that. Yeah, I have had some loving
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: up on a pit bull. One time. This dog was
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: was just like yours, I mean, just full of kisses.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Ye can you pan over to her by the way,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: I can? He says, just like your dog. Typically, my
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: dogs are not like this. My Rottweilers are very different,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: high energy. But this girl's just snoozing.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: But it's amazing though, I mean kissing and loffing and
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: bubbah with this big fat white head full of muscle. Yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: misconception and myths that go with every breed, but pitbulls, Rottweilers,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Doverman's all the the high energy guardian military breeds get
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: the biggest wrap, the biggest stigma, But it's true to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: all breeds, dude, all breeds. So box yeah, boxers, they're
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: high energy, yeah yeah, but they're like neurotic and that's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: coming from personal experience. They're very neurotic. They're great dogs,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: they're just spazes, you know, so they need training for that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Almost you know, had one, Yeah, so you know what
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Beautiful Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're fucking awesome dogs.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted. I love all dogs. There's just
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: some that great Danes there are neurotic too. They're sporadic.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Same thing. I can tell your daughter that too, if.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: You please, please doo. Yeah, you know. And and then
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: there's the little circus dogs, you know, the miniature poodles
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: and and all that. I mean, the list goes on,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: it does.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: I will say, uh, the little dogs, Boston Terriers, Frenchies,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: all that. If you find the right way to communicate
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: with them, they are the most obedient, amazing dogs, dude,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: they really are.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I have we Sherilyn and Lily, and I have a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: soft spot for Frenchies.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like bad, my old lady brought a couple on here,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: didn't she.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Do you remember?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, French Fry, French Fry f What was the other one,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: not French dip?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: It was French dip?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Was it French dip?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Do you do you remember?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: I remember the Frenchies? Yeah, one was.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Remember the black one that was in my arm? Yes, show.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see I don't remember. I saw the show,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: but I don't remember the conversation. But I remember the dogs.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, killed me, killed me. And then she was going
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: in for the for the for the juckular. She's like,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: they don't have a family.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're up for adoption.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, but are they available right now?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: And she was like yep. I was like, fuck, gotcha. Yeah,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I mean it's just beautiful dogs, beautiful dogs.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are good. You know, friend, it's just like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: any other dog. Man, if there's no training involved, that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: can get out of hand. But but they're they're amazing.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: I love French shoes.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, they're cute. I don't I don't listen. I'm not
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: condoning the way that they're bred. I fucking hate when
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: a dog is bred for specific set of looks that
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: don't keep their well being in mind. But but they're here,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: they exist. Are they cute?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Fuck?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah? But they're also great when you find a way
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: to connect with them and trying to.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Be more than it's got to be more than what
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: they look like. Yeah, you gotta think about do they shed?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Are you know? Are they too big for the bed?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Are they going to sleep in your bed? Are they?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Are they? You gotta think about all of these things.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: Man agreed, Yep, Yeah, we definitely didn't think about it.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Are they gonna fit in the bed.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: When we got the Yeah? And you know, I mean,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: and then there's some of us work who are like,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: absolutely not, We'll never sleep in the bed and that,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: and that's fine.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: I think it depends this is me as a as
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: a as a trainer. I think it depends on the dog,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: their personality and how they act with the situation. A
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: lot of times you'll hear trainers say no, the dog
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be in the bed with maybe like a cane
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: corso or a Roddi or something like that because they have,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: you know, guarding or territorial behaviors. You might get bid
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: if you try to come in or something like that.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: But you know, my roddis they're not like that. They
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: can be in bed all day. So there might be
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: some dogs I recommend to somebody they don't sleep in
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: the bed for particular reasons. Yeah, specific reasons. But then
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: there's some I'm like, dude, fucking have them in your
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: bed if you want. Who gives a ship I'm not
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: your typical trainer in that aspect. Wow, I'm not your
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: typical trainer all the way fucking around to be.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Honest, one, uh, I love that. I love that. One question.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: What's up with the the pinch collar?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Oh so the pron coller. So she's a poler and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: she was trained on the pinch right on the pron collar,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: so she just responds well to it, So I just
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: keep the pron collar going. At this point, I could
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  Speaker 3: potentially move her to a slip leader a flat buckle.
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  Speaker 3: But what's the point of having her possibly pull on
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  Speaker 3: the line when we've done all the training. We have
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  Speaker 3: to have her in a good heel position and shit
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 2: No dog should be choking, gasping for air trachia cut off. Agreed.
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  Speaker 2: We need to get to a point where we can
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  Speaker 2: have control of our dog without them gasping for breath.
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  Speaker 2: Can you pan in? Can you zoom? Uh? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I cat so.
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  Speaker 3: I want need to zoom right here with my where
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  Speaker 3: my fingy? My finger is right here?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, yeah, so right here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they can see it either way.
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  Speaker 3: Right here is what's called a trachea separator.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: A pron collar is literally designed to sit off of
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  Speaker 3: the trachia and not damage the neck when you have
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  Speaker 3: a strong polar Okay, that's what that plate right there
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  Speaker 3: is for. Okay, the trachia separator.
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  Speaker 2: Turn it there like this, yeah, right, yep, right there, yep.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, so the trachia separators right here. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: on pron callers, it's like the only collar ever to
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  Speaker 3: be designed, and they may have designed ones after it,
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  Speaker 3: but to begin with, this was the only collar in
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  Speaker 3: existence that you could use that wouldn't damage the neck
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  Speaker 3: of the dog and sit directly on the trachia. Flat
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  Speaker 3: buckle collars, uh, slip leads, all of them, they end
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  Speaker 3: up resting right here majority of the time and can
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  Speaker 3: damage the neck. This is not one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot of people look at a pron collar
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  Speaker 3: because it looks barbaric. But truth be told, if you
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  Speaker 3: get the right pron collar, which I recommend Herm Springer
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  Speaker 3: all the way around. He's the guy that designed them,
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  Speaker 3: so it took its his name throughout time. All these
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  Speaker 3: prongs are rounded, these edges are round it and if
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  Speaker 3: you fit the prong correctly to your dog, there's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna be any punctual lacerations, not gonna hurt the dog.
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  Speaker 3: Everything is designed for it to be safe for the
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  Speaker 3: dog and have the safest outcome for the dog.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing. Yep. I just put the link up there for
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  Speaker 2: the Yah, the Herm Spring, the Herm Springer. Nice dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's multiple kinds man. You're gonna see different sizes,
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna see quick releases. You know you're gonna see
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  Speaker 3: whatever you're looking for. If you do end up getting one,
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  Speaker 3: you'll find it fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this again, man, buck, Yeah, bro, all
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  Speaker 2: right man, I love it. I love it. And if again,
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  Speaker 2: if folks have any questions they want to get in
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  Speaker 2: touch with you. Confident Knine on social media Brad Griffin
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  Speaker 2: nine one seven thirty four thirty two. We got your
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  Speaker 2: phone number in here in the comments. Great stuff, man,
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  Speaker 2: thanks so much for coming in here today chatting with us.
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  Speaker 2: A lot more to talk about, dude, Hell yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it again. All right, all right man, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for having me. I appreciate it. You got a brother,
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  Speaker 2: and good luck with everything. Man, appreciate you, all right, buddy.
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