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Ghost Rider, Terminator, and The Last of Us - The Pivotal Roles of Gabriel Luna · Dos Amigos

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I want about Dramaddie rodrig I'm very proud to
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  Speaker 1: bring to you part two of our incredible conversation where
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  Speaker 1: our brother Gabriel Luna here.
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  Speaker 2: And must go on.
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  Speaker 1: Part uh kicking things off with how did that process happen?
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  Speaker 2: How did you even that was? You know what was
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  Speaker 2: wild about that is around that time I had just
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  Speaker 2: so happened to stumble upon a podcast of Robert Patrick
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  Speaker 2: talking about the process of becoming the T one thousand,
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  Speaker 2: and then shortly after I listened to this podcast, I say,
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  Speaker 2: like a week later is when I got the call
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  Speaker 2: that they wanted to bring me in for this and
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  Speaker 2: I went in to see the Ray Mayfield was was
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  Speaker 2: our casting director on that and and so began almost
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  Speaker 2: the exact same mirror process that Jim put Robert through
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  Speaker 2: when he was a T two one thousand. First thing
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  Speaker 2: was the first casting thing, the callback was with Tim.
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  Speaker 2: I remember seeing Mackenzie come out of the room. Kenzie
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  Speaker 2: Davis said, just did her, who eventually was cast as
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  Speaker 2: Grace in the film call back leave there. Next step
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  Speaker 2: was to go meet with Tim at his office and
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  Speaker 2: I and this all happened to Robert. This is exactly
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  Speaker 2: as it happened because then Robert went to go see
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  Speaker 2: Jim Cameron. They met together. Then they had a stunt
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  Speaker 2: assessment with the stunt team, which is what he went
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  Speaker 2: through and what I went through with the Phil Silvera
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  Speaker 2: who was the stunt.
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  Speaker 3: And this ten assessment is pretty much like can.
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  Speaker 2: You yeah, what do you how do you feel? How
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  Speaker 2: do you move? And everything else, you know. Then they
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  Speaker 2: bring me in, they teach me some coreo of a
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  Speaker 2: certain fight and I have to do the fight with
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  Speaker 2: Freddie Boschiegas, who is our fight coordinator, who is now
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  Speaker 2: the president of Stunts Unlimited, and I love him so much,
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  Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite people. Yeah, and so Robert
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  Speaker 2: of course went through the same thing I went. The
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  Speaker 2: next step was I was waiting and then meet with
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  Speaker 2: the sky DNSK, go meet with David Ellison, who was
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  Speaker 2: the producing the film, and so once again parallel perfectly
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  Speaker 2: with what Robert was experience experiencing at the time, he
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  Speaker 2: went to meet paramount at the time. Yeah, so it's
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  Speaker 2: just all kinds of crazy, kind of interwoven moments. But
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  Speaker 2: then I remember after that being in a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a holding pattern. I was buying a house at
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  Speaker 2: the time, so that kind of kept my house I'm
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  Speaker 2: in now, kind of kept my mind off the process
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  Speaker 2: because it was just a lot of waiting. But it
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  Speaker 2: felt like it was all going along the framework that
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  Speaker 2: I had heard Robert talk about in this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, We're like okay, so where
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  Speaker 3: am I in the progress?
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  Speaker 2: It feels like I'm at the end of it now.
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  Speaker 2: And then they were like, well, Tim calls me and
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  Speaker 2: or the team calls in. They're like, they want to
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  Speaker 2: screen test you. And I was like, okay, man, whatever
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  Speaker 2: they want. Went to Blur Studios. I met with Tim
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  Speaker 2: Miller and he brings me aside and he's like, Gabe,
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  Speaker 2: he'll hold me by the shoulders, like you are my guy.
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  Speaker 2: But Jim wants to meet his screen test chief. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, man, whatever Jim wants. And he's like,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm telling you, I told him, you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: the guy. I don't need to do this. But he
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  Speaker 2: told me that he once built a whole This is
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  Speaker 2: Tim talking about Jim Cameron. He said the Jim once
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  Speaker 2: built a whole forest rainforest for a screen test, which
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  Speaker 2: is apparently what he did for Sam Worthington when he
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  Speaker 2: was testing for Avatar just built a whole like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: full on set of Pandora for him to do his
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  Speaker 2: screen test. So he's like, so Tim, just test the kid,
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  Speaker 2: and so we go in there. There's a one scene
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  Speaker 2: where I'm talking to these two border guards after I
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  Speaker 2: just ripped through you know, twenty thirty border guards, like
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  Speaker 2: basically like border patrol guys. I infiltrate as a border
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  Speaker 2: patrol looking for the target and then just like ripped
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  Speaker 2: through this entire detention facility, which at the time was
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  Speaker 2: was really really timely, you know, considering how people were
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  Speaker 2: being treated and people being detained and held for you know,
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  Speaker 2: interminable amounts of time. And uh So I did that
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  Speaker 2: scene for the screen test, and then I was done,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say about a week later. Once again, about to go,
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  Speaker 2: I get the text from my wife, which is the
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  Speaker 2: grocery list. Once again about to go to Trader Jokes,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm like, well Trade Jo is getting a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this episode has been brought to you, and so
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  Speaker 4: uh and so once again no one around just get
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  Speaker 4: the call that you know.
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  Speaker 2: Tim called me. The opportunity was was incredible.
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  Speaker 5: And was the was the role written Latino or were
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  Speaker 5: you just like the best dude.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think, uh, I think the idea was. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where the you know what the I I think,
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  Speaker 2: I think yes, I think. Well, first of all, the
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  Speaker 2: machine is a kind of a has a kind of
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  Speaker 2: like this polyalloy basically a kind of a T one
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  Speaker 2: thousand exoskeleton liquid skin, and then a ENDO skeleton which
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  Speaker 2: makes it more durable, much like the T eight hundred.
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  Speaker 2: So it it's both and it can split and become
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  Speaker 2: essentially the shell which is the T one thousand and
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  Speaker 2: an endo and kind of coordinate and triangulate on the target.
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  Speaker 2: So there was that aspect, so it could be anything.
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  Speaker 2: It could obviously transform into anything. Yeah, but the target
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  Speaker 2: played by Natalia Reyes was from Mexico City, So if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to send a terminator to Mexico City, you
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  Speaker 2: make them look like the local populace. And and so
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  Speaker 2: that was part of it, and just kept that general
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  Speaker 2: look throughout the thing and transformed into a couple of
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  Speaker 2: different people while I was along the way hunting them.
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  Speaker 2: Another instance where everyone was, you know, making their jokes
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  Speaker 2: and oh, it's the tea, and then I was.
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  Speaker 3: Waiting when that was gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and it did without fail. But once again
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  Speaker 2: when it come out, when it comes out, people forget
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  Speaker 2: that aspect of it. Yeah, because if it's performed, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with diligence and care and focus. And you know, because
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  Speaker 2: I trained so hard for that, and I gained twenty
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  Speaker 2: two pounds of muscle. I read the dow JIQUNDO over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, back to back, because my whole thing
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  Speaker 2: was which is of course Bruce Lee's book about efficiency
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  Speaker 2: of movement, no wasted movement and how anything that isn't
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  Speaker 2: fighting should be shed because anything beyond what is fighting
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  Speaker 2: is what he calls organized despair. You know, any kind
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  Speaker 2: of like flourishes or wushu or anything like that. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: if it doesn't get the job done towards the end
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  Speaker 2: of neutralizing or eliminating your opponent, then doesn't factor. Right,
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  Speaker 2: if it's not fighting, it isn't fighting.
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  Speaker 5: And did you read that and subscribe to that, Like,
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  Speaker 5: did you feel that the character embodied that philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: Or well, the character as a machine would would be
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  Speaker 2: the most efficient. Yeah, and would take the shortest line
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  Speaker 2: from ad B towards the target. Every movement, every step,
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  Speaker 2: every strike would be towards the target, even if he
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  Speaker 2: was engaged with another target. So that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: my philosophy there. And then of course I put on
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  Speaker 2: twenty two pounds of muscle training my butt off, knowing
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  Speaker 2: that at one point I was going to be sitting
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  Speaker 2: in front of Arnold Schwarzenegger, of course, and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want him to look at me and think that he
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  Speaker 2: could squish me like a bug and beny your beauty.
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  Speaker 2: And so I remember the first time I met him.
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  Speaker 2: He came in for hair and make up test. Bill
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  Speaker 2: Corso or makeup artist, the legendary Academy Award winning special
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  Speaker 2: effects makeup artists, Bill corp Show was painting his like
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  Speaker 2: battle damage onto Arnold, doing like a test. And while
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  Speaker 2: he was doing that, Arnold was meeting with Susannah, one
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  Speaker 2: of our makeup artists from Spain, because we shot the
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  Speaker 2: first I think two months in Madrid. Susanna was there
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  Speaker 2: just gushing over the fact that her father was Arnold's
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  Speaker 2: makeup artist on Conan. Oh, and so Arnold had been
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  Speaker 2: there in al Marilla decades ago making Conan, and here
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  Speaker 2: he was now working with the daughter of his makeup
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  Speaker 2: artists in that film. So he's been just employing generations
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  Speaker 2: and Spanish makeup artists and uh and she and I
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  Speaker 2: was just it was such a beautiful story and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to, but they brought me in to meet him.
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  Speaker 2: But I was like, no, no, there's there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful thing happening there. Just let them. So I
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  Speaker 2: just sat on the other end of the hair makeup trailer.
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  Speaker 2: And finally they had finished their conversation with Susannah Labb
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  Speaker 2: and Bill's like, Arnold, this is here's Gabriel. And he
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  Speaker 2: turns to me and I see like half his face
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  Speaker 2: all ripped up, and I shoul probably turned a camera this
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  Speaker 2: way half his face all ripped and and he goes
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  Speaker 2: and I stood up. He's like, wow, look at you.
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  Speaker 2: You're ripped. Look at this guy. And I just that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's That's all the encouragement I needed. And then we
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  Speaker 2: went on to become very close. We would train, you know,
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  Speaker 2: three four times a week together at flex gym and
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  Speaker 2: Budapest shout out to Adam Cislasco, who owns the gym,
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  Speaker 2: and it was so cool, man, it's a that that
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  Speaker 2: gym in Budapest is legendary. I mean, everybody's been there
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  Speaker 2: at the Rock. Henry cow Henry was there, he was
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  Speaker 2: shooting the Witcher. He was actually there where we were there,
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  Speaker 2: Will Smith and Jamie Fox and they're all on the
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  Speaker 2: walls there. And of course Arnold now prominently placed. There's
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  Speaker 2: like a T eight hundred statue of him and the thing. Albert,
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  Speaker 2: who was Arnold's kind of who's kind of a patron
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  Speaker 2: of Arnold when he first moved to the States. Albert
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  Speaker 2: used to run bodybuilding competitions in Europe. He's based out
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  Speaker 2: of Germany. And Albert actually donated these old machines, these
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  Speaker 2: old weight machines that are from the sixties. They're all chrome.
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  Speaker 2: They polish them up and now it's basically like a
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  Speaker 2: living museum at Flex Gym and Budapest where you can
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  Speaker 2: train on these machines that Arnold was training on in
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  Speaker 2: the sixties. So you can you can you can use that.
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  Speaker 2: There's pictures of Arnold on the machines from that era.
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  Speaker 2: Albert donated this.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that that would be an actual exhibition
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  Speaker 1: for anyone who's like a fit, you know what I mean. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is an exhibition that you can also interact with
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  Speaker 1: that iconically was established by someone that iconic was a physique.
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  Speaker 3: I got, like a pilgrimage.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that cool? It's just a whole idea that they
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  Speaker 2: did that. But now there's on that wall there's a
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  Speaker 2: huge picture of myself and then be huge picture of
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  Speaker 2: me and Arnold together next fifteen eight hundred statueses. And
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  Speaker 2: so he and I just became you know, we're part
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  Speaker 2: of this very small fraternity of people who were determinators.
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  Speaker 2: But beyond that, he's become this father figure to me
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  Speaker 2: and somebody who I, uh, if some cool stuff is
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  Speaker 2: happening in my life where you're kind of an older brother,
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  Speaker 2: and I'd say that he's kind of the father figure.
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  Speaker 2: And like I was at WrestleMania a couple of months ago,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just like, Arnold loves he speak really
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  Speaker 2: good friends with superstar Billy Graham, So Arnold loves wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, he only FaceTime my FaceTime. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, check this out. He's like, wow, how many
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  Speaker 2: people are there? Sixty three thousand. He's like, whoa, it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people. All right, I love you have fun,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, just whatever, if there's some cool stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on. I just call him and just to hear
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  Speaker 2: him in his excitement.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a genuine man too.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so I still ever wonders about this whole
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  Speaker 1: process about making movies. Others like, yeah, seems like he's
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  Speaker 1: such bad still passionate about that. And I've seen your
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  Speaker 1: friendship with him kind of played out, and uh, and.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been like, man like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: it'd be.
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  Speaker 1: Like to be like Arnold, Like I'm doing biceps now,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, like like I'm a trying to do
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  Speaker 1: with squad, what would be the most effective school.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll tell you how he does how
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  Speaker 2: he does biceps. He likes the preacher curl. Uh. He
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  Speaker 2: likes curls of all sorts, curls for the girls.
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  Speaker 3: Girls.
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  Speaker 2: But Arnold's thing is slow, slow on the negative, that's right. Bang,
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  Speaker 2: explosive on the on the rep and it's slow on
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  Speaker 2: the negative. Bang, that's how it is. And the way
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  Speaker 2: he just trains dude, it's like a machine. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everything is form is perfect, everything is perfect. The timing
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  Speaker 2: of it is almost like a metronome, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's amazing. Enjoy every rep. Absolutely, he feels it. He
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  Speaker 2: feels every single every single rep. And I remember training
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  Speaker 2: with him in flex and just being kind of in
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  Speaker 2: all of it. There's just four of us and one
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  Speaker 2: of our first training sessions together and I'm doing triceps
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  Speaker 2: on the on the cables and he's there with his
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  Speaker 2: counting off the reps and he's got you know the
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  Speaker 2: German three that we all learned in The Glorious Bastards
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  Speaker 2: that this is the German three. If you do this,
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  Speaker 2: you get killed if you and and it's it's still
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  Speaker 2: to this day as I'm speaking about it just seems
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  Speaker 2: like someone else's life.
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  Speaker 1: But right, but you you have what I lead h
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  Speaker 1: I will say, Man, you've been able to not just
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  Speaker 1: live up to your dream, but now you're in a
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  Speaker 1: position to, you know, continue to tell stories and a
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  Speaker 1: level that you know it's it's again becomes the dream
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  Speaker 1: of the next Caralina. You know who's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the next Girlina is looking at you and be like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: the last of us, right, like that character. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, you're like so to seem stealer, bro, like
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm doing? See with him and the
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  Speaker 1: last of us, they were just like he's so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do more of this guy?
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  Speaker 5: And you and Page are so believable. Yeah, the brother
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  Speaker 5: guys are perfect together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we survive your chemistry the way you know,
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  Speaker 1: how what is that? What was that experience? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Last of Us was such a you know, people
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  Speaker 1: always and before teen years ago, people were really cynical
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  Speaker 1: about like, oh, a video game, a comic book. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but it really is like, if you have
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  Speaker 1: the right tools to tell the story from the character perspective, first,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how extraordinary or how big the world
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  Speaker 1: is around you, because the story it really is about
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  Speaker 1: the individuals living it, not like look at how big
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  Speaker 1: this is, look at the stunt, at the monsters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So they really got that one masterfully.
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  Speaker 2: Did the Carolyn Stras produce that one? She did? She
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  Speaker 2: did you work to Carolyn? Well, that's just I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's HBO. Yeah, the lineage of that Sopranos, Game of Thrones,
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  Speaker 2: all the things that she's worked on. Yeah. Mark my
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  Speaker 2: lad who Cartage, who became was a director, became an
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  Speaker 2: ep of Entourage, was won an Emmy for Succession all
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  Speaker 2: the episodes he did there.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, by the way, little connection there too. He
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  Speaker 1: directed the pilot to Minority Report, which was we did
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  Speaker 1: this one season on that show on Fox, and he
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  Speaker 1: came and directed the pilot and he had just been
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  Speaker 1: back from Game of Thrones, Yeah, because he needed directing
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  Speaker 1: some of the biggest episodes.
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  Speaker 2: What a beautiful person. Beautiful person, beautiful, incredibly talented guy.
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  Speaker 2: One favorite directors I've ever worked, very kind, can do scale,
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  Speaker 2: can do sci if I could do action, can do this.
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  Speaker 2: But but once again knows that you know, it's really
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  Speaker 2: about that person, that person and them standing in front
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  Speaker 2: of each other and expressing themselves and that that is
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  Speaker 2: so Yeah. So that's another kind of That's the thing
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  Speaker 2: with HBO. You know, this is the this would have been.
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  Speaker 2: This is the third time I've worked. I did the
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  Speaker 2: day player role that I did HBO when I was
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  Speaker 2: in Austin Brandon, I did True Detective and then The
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  Speaker 2: Last of Us. And they always keep it in the family.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sitting there with Jeffrey Wright who was
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  Speaker 2: in Westworld, and Routina who was in True Blood, and
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  Speaker 2: Pedro who's in Game of Thrones, in Bella, Game of
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's just like family, and that's why I
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  Speaker 2: love working with HBO. Yeah the uh Carolyn is Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's amazing. So when all that came together, it was
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  Speaker 2: it was a really hot kind of property. That was
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  Speaker 2: that everyone knew of it and was coming up and
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: everybody speculating who's going to get cast, and and then
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: when Pedro was cast as Joel, it did kind of
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  Speaker 2: flash in my mind. I was like, I think I
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  Speaker 2: could play that guy's brother. I knew that they're brother character.
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  Speaker 2: And then I didn't think about it again. And then
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  Speaker 2: when I was still on Twitter, I remember seeing, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned this this kid a lot. I actually met
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  Speaker 2: them at a London comic con one time. There was
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  Speaker 2: a young young girl who just threw the idea out
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  Speaker 2: there and it got a lot of attention on the internet.
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  Speaker 2: They the possibility that I could play it. I was like, oh,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: that's kind of cool just seeing somebody in the out
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  Speaker 2: in the yeah, just say it. And then I was
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  Speaker 2: like okay, yeah. Once again, didn't didn't really register beyond that,
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  Speaker 2: and then month and a half, almost two months later,
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  Speaker 2: my team calls says, Craig Mason and Carolyn Strauss want
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  Speaker 2: to meet with you about playing Tommy Miller and the
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  Speaker 2: last of us, and I was like, They were like,
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  Speaker 2: are you familiar with the game? I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: but I can get familiar. And so I went on
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  Speaker 2: my PlayStation. I got the game and I started playing it,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: and I realized that they were from Austin, Texas. Oh,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: like the characters themselves are from Austin texts. Yeah yeah,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I can do that. I know
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: what that is, and and sure enough it all worked out.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: They wanted me to play Pegris's brother for that. Did
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you have to test for that or like? Well, yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: So what they did was they called me. Craig and
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Carolyn wanted to meet me, even me, and we met
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: me Carolyn and Neil Druckman, the creator of the game
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: and one of the directors. I'd say Craig is our
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Shue runner, and we just met. We talked for about
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I think forty five minutes. Found out that Neil and
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I have the same birthday. We're both born on December fifth.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: We share a birthday with Little Richard and Walt Disney's
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: griffritz Lange. That's great. I go to Disneyland quite often
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: for my birthday because they'll always give me two buttons,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: one for Walt and whatever one hundredth and seventy to
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: whatever birthday it is online, as I get closer and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: closer one hundred and seventeen, and and then they said,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: you know, we love you. We think it'd be great
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: for this if you wouldn't mine, maybe put down a
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: scene for us, And they sent me a scene from
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the second game where Tommy is talking to Ellie about
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: going to Seattle. And I didn't know what that was
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: about yet because I hadn't played that part of the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: game yet. But in between my meeting, or in between
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: them calling saying I had the meeting, to the time
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I took the meeting, I had about three days. So
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I played some of the game and realized all these
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: aspects of it that I had mentioned before from Austin,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that the dynamic between the brothers, everything seemed very kind
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: of in my wheelhouse. The fact that the character was
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: was a veteran, and you know, I've played a lot
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of characters that have this kind of history and this,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: you know, just experience on the gun. So he's a sniper,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: which is I did. I had worked with Jack Neviles,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: who trains army snipers. He was our military advisor for
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Terminator and so already had a lot of this kind
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of knowledge and experience, and so I told them all
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: this in the meeting. They all they were there eating up.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: They loved it, and they was like, you know what,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you're kind of perfect. We just wanted you to kind
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: of throw this scene together. And I'm like sure. So
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the next day I sent this scene. My wife was
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: my reader who is She's she's really funny. She's like,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you know what, I should do a sketch about how
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm the reader to the stars and how my tapes
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: book reader to the Stars, so skin about how this
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: person is the go to reader in the town and uh.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And so we did the scene and sent it in
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and they called me. I think within like three or
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: four hours. Isn't funny?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: How I really think they they know they're going to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: give you the part. And it's like this song and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: danstud just traditionally they gotta do.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I just it's just it's just, you know, everybody in
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the meeting, everybody in the meeting knows. And then I
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: think it's you know, they just kind of shoot it
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: up the ladder or wherever.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: It's almost like they said that they did it. We
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: got to tell you, like, you know, you wonder your
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: favorite they even watch it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: They're like, I mean the fact that it came in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: hours later. I was like, okay, yeah, that's what I've seen.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: It saw.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: It's like you were obviously the person who the whole time.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And so that was that was that, and I was
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I was given all the scripts I think just shortly
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: before I should doubt and I and I played the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: game for the next two months in prep. I just
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: kind of played the game, started seeing the casting announcements
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: come through, and everybody was of course got cast, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: everybody was questioning why and then we do the show.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: We go out, this is post pandemic, so it was
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: still this was still it was a kind of a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: masked situation. We were coming out of the pandemic doing
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a show about a pandemic, wondering if people were going
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: to be fatigued about this subject matter. Not only was
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it not only was it that not that it actually
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was more so kind of this entry point for people.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: They knew, they had the experience, They had this collective
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: knowledge of what that living through that is like, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the fear that anyone around you could be can affect
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you you know, and I remember going to Alberta crogery.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Alberta was in quarantine for two weeks FaceTime with Beether,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: trying to get our relationship you know, built, and it
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: was really beautiful, just really easy man. He he. He
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: grew up in San Antonio for the first like five
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: years of his life. San Antonio is eighty six miles
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: down the road from Austin, and so we kind of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: worked out some dialect stuff. He heard kind of my
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: voice and what I was going to do with the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the thing and tried to match some of that, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: we match some physicality and just have these discussions over
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: over FaceTime. And then the day I got out of quarantine,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I went to get to do my hair makeup test
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and my costume fitting, and then my driver she asked me, so,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: what do you want to do with your first you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: what do you want to do? You're you're you're you're
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: out of quarantine. I was like, take me to the Hearthouse.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And the Hearththouse is the ancestral home of Brett Hart
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and his family, his father's Stu heart Restler. Yeah. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: was a huge you know, growing up, I was a
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: huge and I am still now as I meant Heart Foundation,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: so Brett Hart is I. So I went and did
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: my pilgrimage to the Hearthouse, and I lurked around the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: gates and took photos outside, and there's this beautiful plaque
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that says Hearthouse and with two Greco Roman wrestlers wrestling.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And then there I could see the basement from the street,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the world famous dungeon where Stu Hart, his father trained
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: generations of wrestlers, including his entire family, Brett, his brother Owen,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and his brother in law's Davy Boy, and Jim Knightheart,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: who his tag team partner. And so I go home.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I come back the next day. Our COVID doctor fella
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: named Mike was like, what'd you do with your first
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: day of freedom? And I said, I went to the Hearththouse.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you're a wrestling fan. I was. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I like wrestling. I mean, I love
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Brett Hart. I mean I told him the story that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, after my mom got divorced
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: with my brothers, my brother Timothy's dad, our first outing
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: together as our new family unit, my mom, myself and
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: my little brother was to go see WWE at the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Frank Irwin Center in Austin, Texas in nineteen eighty nine
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: at Saturday Night's main event. We were going there to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: see The Ultimate Warrior, and we left eternal Brett Hart
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: fans because my brother was. He bestowed the pink visor
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: shades onto my brother, which is his. It was his claim.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Two fames. Yeah, the first.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Please tell me he still has Yeah, he still has them.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Someone and he's like, he's he just held that over
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: my head for so long as I got. Look at
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I got. Every time I tried to hold him, He's like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: you get Hell, those are mine. You can't touch it. Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And so flash forward to Calgary, Alberta. I'm shooting the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: last of us. We're ending the first We're like round
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the end of the first episode or something, and then, uh,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the same COVID doctor. Well he had told me earlier.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: He's like, you know what, I know Brett Hart's appearance agent.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe you can link you guys up. I was like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: that'd be amazing. Didn't think about it, just go to work.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: One of the last days of the first episode. My
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: assistant comes up. She's like, I got my COVID on
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the line. I was like, oh no, I thought I
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: popped dirty on one of the COVID tests. I was like, oh, shoot,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: what's going on? Man, we're ready to hear him tell
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: me you need to walk off the set and you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: needed whatever quarantine you again for two weeks. But it
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't that. It was hey, man, how would you like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to meet Brett Hart? And I was like, I would
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: love to go on. He's like, well, I gave him
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: your phone number. He's going to call you tomorrow. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: was like, well, wait, wait, hold on, he's going to Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, wait, I'm working. We're all nights tonight.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting off until six am. When is he
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: in a call? He's like, I don't know, man, He's
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: just going to call you. And I was like okay.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So I worked all night, wrapped at six, drove the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: hour from High River back to Calgary, went to bed,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: woke up at like nine one another like situation with
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Robert where I was just I didn't sleep very much,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: but I knew something. I had to answer the phone,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and I I answer it or he calls me like
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: nine to twelve, so I'm glad I'm up. He's like
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: he gave this his Brett here you're a big fan
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and my my son Blades a fan of Oars and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: like we can meet up and you know, go have
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a bite to eat. And I was like, yeah, that'd
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: be wonderful. I said, what do you want to do.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, tomorrow we can go to Red's Diner.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's kind of close to your house, and and I
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: was like, sounds good. And then I get off the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: phone and my wife's laughing. You're like, you look like
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: a little kid.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And then the whole thing by the universe right like that,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You're like nine in the morning, you're talking to like
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: your childhood hero, and then you're making.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Just go get a bite. You're like, what, what's my crazy? Crazy?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Because then the next day I drive over that Red's Diner.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I get us a corner booth and I'm waiting for
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: him thirty minutes early because he's not gonna wait for me.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: But then nine twelve o'clock comes around he's not there.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Well okay, so I go outside and look outside on
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the patio. He's not there. He's like, oh shoot, and
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: then he texts me and he says I'm here. It's like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: where are you? I call him up? Sorry? Where are
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: you He's home in the patio. I'm looking at the patio
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and there's no one there. I was like, okay, one second.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I go up to the hostess. So it's like, is
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: there another Reds diner? Like, oh yeah, there's one in Kensington. Oh.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh God. So I get in the car.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I drive over to Kensington. It's kind of a kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: of a more kind of fancier. I mean, it's fancy
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: as kind of Calgary gets. And then I'm looking at everything.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Calgary is only fifteen minutes. Okay, So I go over there,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and but I'm looking at I'm just looking at the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: patio from outside. I don't see brett Heart there. And
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: also this kind of part of town doesn't strike me
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: as the other place I just left felt very much
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: like a Bredheart spot. It's like old diner, brick, red
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: brick building, you know. And then I get to this
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: place and it's kind of new and fancy. I was like,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: this doesn't feel right. So I started driving back to
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the other place. Maybe I just missed him. But then
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I look at my phone. He texts me and I
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: call him furiously. I'm sure, I'm so sorry. I'm all
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: my way, I'm I would never keep you waiting. He's like, oh,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: it's all right, just take your time. And then I
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: look on the text thread and he had sent me
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the physical address where I needed to go, and I
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: just had overlooked it. It was another Reds diner in
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: East Kenol, where he lives. But luck, once again, everything's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen minutes away. So I drived to East
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Calgary and there he is sitting outside, and we'd appreciate this.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: As Latinos and people who love wrestling, we will probably
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: all love Ray Mysterio, and apparently so does Brett Hart.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: In fact, Ray is probably his favorite wrestler, I think,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: he says. And he's wearing a Ray Mysterio shirt from
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a company called Roots of Fight that my buddy Jesse
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Katz owns, And I'm looking at Brett Heart there in
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: his silver shock of hair, sitting right in front of me,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and we proceed to have a five hour conversation. He
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: tells me every single story straight from the horse's mouth.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: He tells me about the Montreal screwdob against Seawan Michaels,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: where Vince screwed him out of the belt. He tells
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: me Wrestmania thirteen with Stonecoat Steve Austin, and he's using
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: when he described the Montreal screwjob, he's using salt shakers,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: sugar packets, pepper thing to show me where everybody was. Like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: so I'm sitting here, Sean's in the corner crime, my
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: brother and Davy and Jim are sitting here this salt shaker.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: This is Vince coming in with Sergeant Slaughter and he's
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: just like doing the whole basically the floor map of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: what happened when he punched this McMahon out, knock him
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: out with a nupper cut and laid him out on
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the floor. So he tells me this whole story. He's like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Davy boy always stole my towel, so I didn't have
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: a towel. So I'm naked as a jaybird as I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: walk out, and I tell Vince, you better be out
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: of here by the time I get my clothes on,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I only got my pants and one
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: shoe on. And I got up and I uppercutted him
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and I knocked him out. I told me a little story.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And then he tells me the story about Stone goes.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Steve Austin wrestling at thirteen where Stone Colts is bleeding.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It's a very famous, probably the most famous WrestleMania match.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: In fact, it's the first match to ever be inducted
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: into the Wrestlal, the ww Hall of Fame. And this
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: year's WrestleMania where I was in attendance, and I went
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to have dinner with Brett and his wife Stephanie with
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: my friend Michael, who blew my buddy Michael's mind. So
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: we're sitting there Cosmopolitan having dinner and he was just
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: telling me the whole thing about the induction of the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: match and everything else. I was telling Michael about how
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Brett had told me about that match, and he used
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a Sweet and Low that he folds into fourths to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: show me the size of the blade, and then how
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: he taped it with his wrist tape and he left
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a tiny little corner of the blade exposed, because traditionally
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that's how they would you would get color and cut
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: yourself and gig, you know, and you usually do it
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to yourself, but Stone Cold had never done it before,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: so Brett volunteered to do it for him, but with
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the stipulation that if the blade comes out, it has
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to happen. You can't go back from that point, even
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: though at the time there was a strict no blood
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: rule that vincement Man had put in place, and not
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: only did they do it, they did it right in
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: front of Vince. He was never none the wiser. Everybody
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: thought that Stone Cold had that he had really potato
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: stone Cold and was bleeding, but he had kept the blade.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: The tape is all the way around with the tiny
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: bit of it exposed, and usually you tape it to
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: your wrist with wrist tape, and Brett told me that
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he had stuck it in his gums, So for the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: entirety of the match, he had a blade stuck in
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: his gums. And then of course cut stone Cold takes
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: him into the ring, puts Stone Cold on the sharp shooter.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Stone Cold refuses to give up, and that was by
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: design because he had no real submission moves and they
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: had given him this finish where it had to be
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a submission, And so Brett puts him in the sharp
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: shooter and he's like, the only way this works is
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: if the people in the three hundreds can see how
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: much pain you're in, and that's why you have to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: get cut and he was right, because it's legendary. The
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Stone Cold is bleeding from his face, he's pushing, he's
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: refusing to give up, and then he just passes out
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and they ring the bell. And basically Stone Cold is
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: forever in Brett Hart's debt and loves him dearly, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the love go two ways. Brett loves Stone Cold as well.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: We all love Stone Cold from Texas because we're all
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, he's from Victoria and I'm from Austin and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Stone Cold lived in Austin for a long time and
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: he just at that point made Stone Cold's career. And uh,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Steve has said this many times himself, and so it's
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: just to have these this this guy who I idolize,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: tell me these stories and then have that match inducted
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame this year at WrestleMania and
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: be able to sit with Brett his wife that night
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: after it happens.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Was was was stone Cold resistant at all to any
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: of sort of like where where Brett thought, yeah, oh
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: he was.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: He was at some point when the blade came out.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: He says that Steve was like, don't do it, don't
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: do it. Oh, and then Brett was like, it's too
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: late and then and so they but then you know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: ever since then, it's been uh, it's been louded as
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the probably the restaurant in you match. But anyway, after
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I met with at that first time when we were
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Reds Diner, he gives me a Hitman hat from Roots
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: of Fight. This podcast is brought to you by Trader
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Joe's and Roots of Fight. And he gives me the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: hat and he gives me his book and in the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: book he signed the book and his signature is there.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And it's so funny because I remember, it's as if
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: that signature is emblazoned in my mind because when he
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: gives the shades out, he signs them, he pre signs them.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: So I had seen his signature throughout my childhood on
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: that pair of shades that he had given my brother,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and now I'm looking at it again thirty years later,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: thirty five years yeah, thirty something years later in on
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the front jacket of his book, and I was like, wow,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: that's so crazy. I remember this.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Only difference was now it has four hearts, where previously
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: it only had three, because each heart is representative one
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of his children. And at the time he gave those
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to my brother. And when we were at that show,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: he only had three kids. Oh and since then he's
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: had his daughter, Beans, who's obviously an adult now. But
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: and I just remember seeing that. I took all that
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: home and I go back to my house and once
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: again I was like, you look like a goddamn kid.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So I have the hat on, I have the book.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: But it's so hard not to man, because I grew
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: up with with wrestling, to the Undertaker was my favorite. Yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but as I was I was, as I was growing up,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you know, it was still very much bibuly And then
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I ended up doing that seventy show,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and that seventies show decides to do a wrestling episode
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: in partnership with WWF.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: That's right, WWF, and they especially in the seventies, well
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: in the seventies, Yeah, it was the WWWF back then,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: so they stand.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: The coolest part about it was that they decided, okay, well,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you know, we're going to do this special episode. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: we were the number one comedy so it was like
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: easy to get these cameos. So they send all their
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: up and comers, you know, they send the hardy boys,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: then they send Can Shamrock.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And the Rock Up and Comers.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Bro. That was the rocks first acting gig. By the way,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that was his first time him being on like a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: TV show, like oh wow, besides like wrestling or whatever.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So he had to do this scene where he was
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: kind of playing his dad. Yes, yeah, there is this
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: actually hilarious picture. It's just me dressed dance faz in
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: between can Shamrock and the Rock and They're both doing
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: this like they're punping and I'm like pretending scaring.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Such a great epic picture for me, that is.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: But the point is like these guys roll up and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: they do like some little stunt stuff and they'll show whatever.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, like we're looking at the hardy boys,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the kN Shamrock doing the year
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: where he had just like left the UFC and joined
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: right right, And to me that was a huge Well
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I still am. I'm one of the most massive UFC fans.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: And Dana White was a dear friend is still very
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: much a dear friend of mine. He would put me
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: in the front road, you know.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And then I.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Became friends with all those guys right like Rampitch Jackson
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a huge like.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: A huge fan like you and I both know Spiders, yes,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and Anderson who's.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: The Michael Jordan of MMA, and and uh so, then
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: when Ken Shawnrock, who was one of my first heroes off.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Jeez Man back with the old man old logo, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like the original one hundred percent and like he was
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the baddest man on the planet.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: You know, he shows up to the set of seventy
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: show bro my brain just like exploded, like like.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I'm doing and I'm looking at the Rock.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: He's like, you know, he's doing the eyebrow thing, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: like at that time, everyone in the said, He's like
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: what is he doing with the eyebrow thing?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: It was like because he was.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Like looking out and he's like the most you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: my son will be the most electrified man.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And you know, like he was doing the whole thing,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: And everyone's like what is was that time? Was he
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: started off as like a good guy okay.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he did he they he was he
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't receive him as this good guy that they
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: were trying to push it that he made his choice
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: to turn into this kind of turn. That's how he
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: became the most electrifying man in sports. Entertainment. How about
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: that's so crazy. That's so crazy because that is it's
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: it's it's our business is so funny because you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: we're actors, but we want to be musicians, and the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: musicians want to be actors. We all want to be athletes,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: and the athletes want to be actors. It's just and
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and and just to see how that all intersects. You know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: right now you talk about the UFC, which I absolutely
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: love as well, and the we're I was just at
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: UFC three fifteen with some of my Terminal List cast
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: mates because we were there as guests of Valentina Schifchinko,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: which is the Flyway champion of the world, and she
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: is going to be She's just started acting. She was
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in a picture called Bruised with Holly Berry and it
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: was just a now that she is joining our cast,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and we were there to see her to support her
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: because we knew we were in this trying to work
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: out this deal so she can join the cast. So
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Valentina is going to be in The Terminalist with us
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: and we're going to share some scenes together, and so
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: we got to go see her in her fight and
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the whole time it's just like, first of all, Valentina,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: please win this fight. She was playing. She was fighting
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: mine On Fiarro, who was a great kickboxer, big big gal,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: big for flyway and uh and number two, please please
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: don't hit her in the face. And not only did
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: she just she barely got touched because she was so smart.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she even had this in the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: back of her mind. I'm sure she didn't, but she
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: knews that she has. She knows that she has this
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: acting gig that she has potentially in a couple of months,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and of course it'll be much sweeter. She's still the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: flyweight champion of the world, and of course it'll be
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: much easier if her face is and complete. Bits. You know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: she needs to have just a masterful, masterful performance, she said,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: mine On, great, big, long limbs, great kickboxer, kept going
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: with this head kick, and without fail, every single attempt
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Valentina pulls it. She pulls every single one, just whips
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: out front of her face and then she and then
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: she would counter every single time min On through this
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: this roundhouse to her head.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: That was the game plan. I mean, there was a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: no knowledge that kick was going to be coming over.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so they just crashed some time she pulled it,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: not one of them had it, and I was like, wow,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: this is incredible, and then she has She won the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: fight that night was incredible as well because Josei Ado
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I believe he won that fight. And I was just
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: talking to Anderson at the Ballerina premiere. What did he think?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: He thought j W as well. We all thought he
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: did so. But apparently Aldo took the gloves off, retired
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: in the ring. Epic night. U uh we uh who else?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: What else happened that night?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that UFC.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Car JDM won the championship. That was pretty crazy. That
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: was nice. So yeah, we just had We had an
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: amazing time. And then we went and had a pizza
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: party with as one Valentina. Valentina let me hold her belt,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: We said there, took photos together, We all had a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: pizza because she hadn't had pizza in a few few weeks.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: We had a pizza party. After you win defend your
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: flyweight champions I.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Just did a movie with Speaking of wrestlers wanting to act,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: I just did a movie with Charlotte Flair.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ric Flair's daughter shout out. Shout out to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Ashley Uh.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: She was lovely, wonderful and and and such a great actress.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is your first movie.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: She was so prepared and so like, so spot on.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: You know, that's pretty awesome.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a legend number and that she's earned her
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: own legendary status.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And I'm becoming more you know, I used to
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: watch wrestling when I was a kid and then sort of.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Fell out out of it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: But I've I've recently been trying to get familiar with
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: the times and and and you.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Know, people like her.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: You know, we would walk around with her and she
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: was like the beatles Man. Yeah, yeah, we're the Dominican
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Republican people be like, oh my god. You know.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And that's the crazy thing about that old stuff, you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: it's it's we all love it as kids, of course,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: but now it's such big business. It's it's uh the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: w W E, d UFC or under the same umbrella
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: of course, ko and it's it's it's it's an entertainment conglomerate, right,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you know. And it's just and yeah, but they they're there.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Athleticism can never be short changed because it is a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: extremely physical.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I think they're the most the most fit, well rounded
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: athlete in the world. I mean, when people specialize for
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a sport, you know, your body morphs into what he
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: needs to be for that. Mixed martial arts, it's like
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: everything in your body has to be a weapon and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it has to function and it has to be throwing
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: faster than the other person.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you think about the I mean, it's just a
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: well rounded thing.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, and it's it's something you know, I'm
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: a big kind of I'm a boxing purist in a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: lot of ways. And but the thing about the UFC is,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: while some people will become masters of a certain discipline,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you can't. You can never completely lean on that. And
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: you're and both hemispheres of your body have to be
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: active and you and they have to be able to respond,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: You have to be able to engage. You have to
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: have them kind of act independently of each other in
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways, which is which is an important
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: skill set, spherical kind of way of being. And that's
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: what Rouce Lee. We talked about Bruce Lee earlier in
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the daw Jikundola. That's exactly what he was. He was.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: He was probably the world's first mixed martial artists, and
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: that's what they always claim, you know, that's what the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and right rightfully so, because that was his approach, to
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: not get tight in to any specific discipline, to not
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: narrow your your view of the world, because that's what
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: martial arts was to him. It was a man if.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: It was a expression, a manifestation of the world through
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: your body in a very spherical way. And that's yeah,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to be able to to be ready in every direction,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: be able to pivot in any direction. It's it's useful
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in every in in all ways in your life, you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's it's a the mental aspect
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of that is applicable to us as actors. The it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it's it's applicable to to my work, the work that
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I have to do on the gun, where I'm working
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: on terminalists, for instance, to the idea that both you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: both halves your body are working independently of each other,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: but towards the same end. You know, to be able
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: to corporate that right and flow with these right, So
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you're right, I think truly it is the most well rounded.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: And did you do some additional training, did you incorporate somebody?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've we've done a lot of that we've done.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Of course we had to for Terminal List, right, for Terminalists.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what is that your next thing right now?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Because that's what I'm working on. Then, right, next thing
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: to come out will be a show that I shot
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: also in Toronto called Double in Disguise. It's about the
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: John Wayne Gacy case where I play Detective Rafael Tovar,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: who is was the lead investigator on the John Wayne
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Gacey case in Chicago at the time. Amazing in the
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in the seventies and what's the time, who was a
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Texas guy from Crystal City, Texas who moved to Chicago
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: because they were looking for bilingual people to be police officers,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and then he finds himself as a lead investigator on
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: this horrific case that should be coming out on Peacock
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in the fall.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: And then I'm currently in production on the Terminal List,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: which should come out sometime next year.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And that's uh, the Terminal List. Yeah, yeah, my first
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: he's Nancy, were the bad guys?
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's right, is that?
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's where the suspects of them big us guys
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: there were Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, hey, all the way up to Sect death Man,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of people You're gonna trust anybody. There are
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of people involved that conspiracy.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: M but I love that show. Terminal List. Say, when
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I read that you were on it, I was.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Like, Chris, Chris does a great job. He's a great
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: leader on that show. He's he's he's uh pulled together
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: an awesome team. Jared Shaw, Max Adams, Raymondoza worked on
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the first season is also a ta He of course
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: co directed Warfare with Alex Garland. I worked with Raymondoza
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: on True Detective many years ago, our head military advisor.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: There was guy named Mark Simos. I think Chick Daniels
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: also worked on that the fella I mentioned before who
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I worked with on Mattador. But as far as like
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the seal teams and maneuvers, Mark Simos and Raymondoza they
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: were on their there, they were on the teams at
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the same time, their first platoon they were, they were
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: uh deployed together. And uh, I love ray I mean,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of him and what he was
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: able to accomplish with the Warfare film, which is authenticity
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to a t. I mean it's it's uh, it's so
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: devoid of any kind of morality play. It's it is
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: completely devoid of any Hollywood bullshit. Every single round is
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: fired with having with a choice having been made, a
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: decision being made, the action. There's no super heroics. There's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: just people trying to survive and trying to execute a
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: mission and eventually trying to extract casualties from this from
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: this scenario. And it's just a beautiful I mean, beautiful
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: is an interesting word to use, but it's a a
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: very impactful film, one that I'm still kind of thinking
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: about as I as I sit here. But Ray is
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: special and and he and Jared Shaw and Max Adams,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: all the people who are our military advisers are amazing.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: And they definitely have equipped us with the Rex skill
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: sets to move and make it look real. And you
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: know what I noticed too. But Ray was like, man,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Jared was like, you know when we cast you,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: this is another thing. When I took the meeting about
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: these got to do this job. Uh, you know, they're
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: asking me a lot of serious questions about conflict, about fighting,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: why I feel about fighting. You know, My whole thing
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: is much with the characters I play much like the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: characters I play, which I guess are just me and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: all the facets of me. It's it's to be both
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: lying and lamb, you know, to be powerful towards the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: towards the the for the benefit, for the protection of others,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and the strength to be utilized in that way, but
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: also to have the vulnerability and the softness inside to
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: care and be compassionate, to find the strike the balance,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: you know. And that that's what I told them, you know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I told them about the times I've been in fist fights,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and you know, but not in any kind of braggadocious way.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Just so this the sheer fact of it. Every single
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: every single one of those stories involved coming to someone
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: else's aid. And because you can say what you want
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to me and maybe even you might be able to
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: strike me. Ah. But once that that force and that
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Vince has turned to somebody who can't defend themselves, that's
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: where the line is drunk. And I was making this
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: clear of them, it turns my philosophy about fighting, and
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: they uh, And then they got to a point where
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: at the end of the at the end of the meeting,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: they're like, they're like gave you're you're the guys. You're
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: perfect for this, and not just because of that what
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I know about you and and how you because the
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: story won of the story has told us about me
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: coming into the aid. My buddy Beck Bennett used to
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: be on Satday yight Line and we got into a
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: bar fight and at the White Horse and.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: In Austin, Austin.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the that's a long story. I won't tell
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: her here. The you knows. And then one of the
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: guys pipes up Max, He's like, you know, we know
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: you're the right guy, not just because the stories you
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: just told her, maybe you because you helping your buddy
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: back Bennett get out of his barfight, but because you
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: are both lying and lamb in the sense that the
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: lamb was on display when you did a dance contest
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: with my daughter in Chicago at a comic Con event
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: where they came up to your table, when you treated
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: her with such respect and such love, and I'm so
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: thankful for that, he told me. And the dance contest, yeah,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: she came up, she started dancing. She wanted she wanted
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: to like have a dance off. And I remembered this
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: and I was like oh, I do remember that he
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: had a video. He's like, here's a video of it.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And then she had just she just came to set
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: like two or three weeks ago. She made me a
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: little bracelet and everything else, and she's like, I made
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: you yours with the large beads. Everyone, you're the only
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: one that has the large because we're friends from a
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: long time. Think you're right, but that is that is
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: just these things you never know. Oh, that's why you
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: make full encounters and you treat people with respect because
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: down the line, down the road, you don't know how
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: things shake out. And this is an instance where I'm
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: now this is executive producer, former Army Ranger is more
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: inclined to trust me because he's seen these aspects that
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  Speaker 2: that he needs for this character, the strength and and
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the h and the tenderness in a way, and he's
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  Speaker 2: seen them on display in the flesh kind of around
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: the work, around the way.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, you know, speaking of respect, and as
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  Speaker 1: as we close the show, one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I've noticed in every interview you've ever done and every
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  Speaker 1: encounter I have with you, you always have made a.
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  Speaker 3: Point of remembering.
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  Speaker 1: Every individual that it's a part of telling the story.
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  Speaker 1: You give them their flowers, you know their first and
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  Speaker 1: last name, and you're making sure that every time you
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: bring up a job, you know, you make sure you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned every single person that that touched your process, and
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  Speaker 1: you give them their flowers, and you give them their
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  Speaker 1: credit and and for them, you know, sometimes it's just.
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  Speaker 3: Being remembered, you know. It's it's not about the credit.
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  Speaker 1: It's about just like remember, being remembered that we all
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  Speaker 1: shared a very special storytelling moment, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And look, this is like the so the signs.
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  Speaker 1: Of other people behind, you know, behind us remember and
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  Speaker 1: then thinking about us, you know. But but but Gary,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so stoked that you spend all this time with us,
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  Speaker 1: here to do with us, and and that you were
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  Speaker 1: able to share all those amazing stories. Brought up so
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: much memories of all the things that you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of coexisted with and uh, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: were just so thrilled to be able to tell you
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  Speaker 1: how much we we love you and respect you and
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to see you wait and win and I
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  Speaker 1: love you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, and that's just it's uh, it's even at this
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  Speaker 2: moment to to to like kind of tread the stones
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  Speaker 2: that you guys laid, and that's that's that's the truth
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  Speaker 2: of it, you know. And uh, I kind of made
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  Speaker 2: my bones a little later in my career. And you
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  Speaker 2: guys at such young ages were able to to deliver
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  Speaker 2: and to make people respect us, to make people respect you,
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  Speaker 2: so that the door was open when I got there,
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  Speaker 2: and I intend to make sure the door's open for
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  Speaker 2: people behind me. And that's how we keep doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Man, you're making your culture incredibly proud. Do you wanna
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: do you wanna take us out?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, this is Freddie Rodriguez and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Wilmer Valderama, and thank you all for listening to
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: this beautiful and thank you Gabriel Lune for being here
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The next episode next one.
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  Speaker 5: Those Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's
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  Speaker 5: Michael through That Podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez
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  Speaker 5: and Wilm of Valdorama.
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  Speaker 1: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer's Abbos.
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  Speaker 5: Executive producers are Wilmri vald Ramo, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,
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  Speaker 5: and Leo clem At WV sound.
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  Speaker 1: This episode was shot and entered it by Ryan Posts
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  Speaker 1: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by
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  Speaker 1: Madison Devenport and Halo boy Our.
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  Speaker 5: Cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed by
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  Speaker 5: Deny Holtz.
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  Speaker 1: Clau and thank you for being a third Amigo today.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys always listening to those amiingos.
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  Speaker 5: For more podcasts from My Heart, visit ther Heart Radio app,
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  Speaker 5: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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  Speaker 2: See you next week.