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Fed Pause, Inflation, AI & Your Future - Anthony Saccaro #6227 · Financial Survival Network

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Speaker 1: You know, because of the fact that they were behind
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Speaker 1: the eight ball. Well now, they started lowering interest rates
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Speaker 1: sooner than a lot of people thought that they might
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Speaker 1: need to. But the reality is that they're trying to
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Speaker 1: get in front of the eight ball, and I think
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Speaker 1: they've done a great job. I think at this point
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Speaker 1: wait and see as the right approach. It hasn't affected
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Speaker 1: the stock market. We're still only a few hundred points
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Speaker 1: on the Dow off of the all time highs. Consumer
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Speaker 1: confidence is over one hundred, well in expansion territory. So
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Speaker 1: I think they're navigating everything well and I don't see
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Speaker 1: any red flags for the economy or stock market.
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Speaker 3: Than ever, And welcome you are listening to and watching
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Speaker 3: the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Hey,
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Speaker 3: we're at the second to last day of January. This
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Speaker 3: month has flown by so much has happened and so
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Speaker 3: much hasn't. Anthony Sakara is with US now, financial expert, Anthony.
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Speaker 3: Great to have you back on So the Fed says no,
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Speaker 3: Trump said they're going to cut rates. Powell said, we're pausing.
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Speaker 3: Who's going to win this fight? Yeah, well, Kerrie, thank
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Speaker 3: you for having me back. Great to be here as always.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course Trump wants interest rates to go down
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Speaker 1: because that is going to spur on the economy, and
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Speaker 1: Jerome and Powell basically said that we're gonna wait and
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Speaker 1: see pattern. The reason is because GDP has sloan, but
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Speaker 1: it's still above the level that they want to see
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Speaker 1: it at. And inflation has ticked up over you know,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four as well too, but still in the
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Speaker 1: high twos. I think the CPI was two point nine.
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Speaker 1: If I'm correct, then the PCE was lower than that.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is is the Fed Reserve has this
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Speaker 1: balancing act between the labor market and unemployment and inflation.
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Speaker 1: Unemployment's been under control for a while. It's currently sitting
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Speaker 1: in the four point one percent, but for the last
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Speaker 1: year it's been in the high three is low fours.
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Speaker 1: That's certainly under control. So their target then has been inflation.
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Speaker 1: Their target for inflation is two percent. Now I don't
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Speaker 1: believe and a lot of economists don't even believe that
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Speaker 1: that's necessarily realistic. It doesn't mean that they have to
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Speaker 1: get the two percent before they start cutting though. As
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, that would be a huge mistake
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Speaker 1: to do that, because inflation is a lagging indicator. It's
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Speaker 1: something that occurs after policy. So once you put policy
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Speaker 1: into place, then six months later is when that's going
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Speaker 1: to start showing up in inflation. So you have to
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Speaker 1: be ahead of the curve. And if you're too far
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Speaker 1: ahead of the curve, then six months later it's the
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Speaker 1: economy is going to overreact, and not in front of
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Speaker 1: the curve enough, then six months later the policies the
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Speaker 1: economy is going to underreact. And that's what happened back
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Speaker 1: when COVID started. You might remember when they started talking
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Speaker 1: about inflation as being transitory and they got that wrong.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't But they didn't make any moves and so
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Speaker 1: then inflation went out of the you know, went through
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Speaker 1: the roof, you know, because of the fact that they
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Speaker 1: were behind the eight ball. Well, now they started lowering
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Speaker 1: interest rates sooner than a lot of people thought that
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Speaker 1: they might need to. But the reality is that they're
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Speaker 1: trying to get in front of the eight ball, and
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Speaker 1: I think they've done a great job. I think at
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Speaker 1: this point, wait and see is the right approach. It
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Speaker 1: hasn't affected the stock market. We're still only a few
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Speaker 1: hundred points on the Dow off of the all time highs.
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Speaker 1: Consumer confidence is over one hundred, well in expansion territory.
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Speaker 1: So I think they're navigating everything well. And I don't
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Speaker 1: see any red flags for the economy or stock market
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Speaker 1: for about six months, and that at any point in time,
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Speaker 1: that's really about how far you can look out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, but realistically, the inflation rate is much higher
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Speaker 3: than they're admitting, right, So that means that the so
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Speaker 3: called economic growth that we're experiencing maybe doesn't really exist.
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Speaker 1: Well, you definitely can argue that, and I don't I
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Speaker 1: believe that for sure. When I talked to clients, even yesterday,
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Speaker 1: I spoke with a client and throughout that two point
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Speaker 1: nine percent CPI number, and his eyes kind of rolled
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Speaker 1: in the back of his head because that number doesn't
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Speaker 1: include food, it doesn't include energy, and so there are
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Speaker 1: some things that are left out and real inflation certainly
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Speaker 1: is arguable that is higher than that number, So there's
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Speaker 1: no doubt that there's a lot of truth in that statement.
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Speaker 1: The reality, though, is that it's the measure that we've
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Speaker 1: used for years, and if it's going to be higher
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Speaker 1: by some degree, then it's going to be higher year
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Speaker 1: over year as well too. The CPI is just the
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Speaker 1: measuring stick. So if CPI is a two point nine
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Speaker 1: and real inflation is one percent above that, you know,
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Speaker 1: three point nine, well, then when CPI goes up, the
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Speaker 1: real inflation goes up as well too. So yes, the
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Speaker 1: real inflation rate is really going to be higher than
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Speaker 1: what the CPI indicates, but it's still relative to being
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Speaker 1: able to measure it. It's almost like you know, when
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Speaker 1: I get on a scale. If I get on one scale,
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Speaker 1: you know I might weigh a certain weight. If I
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Speaker 1: get on a different scale, I might weigh a different weight.
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Speaker 1: So which one is correct? Well, over time, they're both
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Speaker 1: going to go up and down the same regardless of
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Speaker 1: the scale, And that's what we're measuring. It is what's
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Speaker 1: the increase and what's the decrease, And the fact is
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Speaker 1: that inflation has ticked up just a little bit, but
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Speaker 1: not so much to where the Federal Reserve needs to raise,
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Speaker 1: but certainly enough to where they need to pause. And
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Speaker 1: I think pausing was probably a good decision.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so what about the Trump administration's efforts to
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Speaker 3: rein in the federal budget, because that's always what the
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Speaker 3: Fed's bumping up against, Right, they can't. Monetary policy can
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Speaker 3: only go so far. Eventually, fiscal policy has to join
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Speaker 3: the Act if you want to bring inflation under control,
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Speaker 3: because the deficit is going to get financed by the
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Speaker 3: FED no matter what.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, for sure. You know, our GDP has gone
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Speaker 1: from watch twenty to one trillion to twenty seven trillion
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Speaker 1: just in the recent years. And you know, I believe
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Speaker 1: that I like the idea of doge. You know, where
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Speaker 1: Trump is about getting rid of all the government waste.
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Speaker 1: I think there are so many my own personal beliefs.
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Speaker 1: I think there are so many agencies out there that
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Speaker 1: were commissioned to start doing something and then really veered
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Speaker 1: away from what they were supposed to be doing, and
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Speaker 1: now they're not even on task to do anything that
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Speaker 1: they were initially set up to do, and it's just
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Speaker 1: gotten out of control. And I think when you rain
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Speaker 1: that in, then I think the budget's going to get
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Speaker 1: in the more in the more realistic territory. But the
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Speaker 1: reality is is that is that you know, the the
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Speaker 1: Fed do finance it, and it's the budgetary constraints and
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Speaker 1: controls that are set by the President and Congress that
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Speaker 1: you'll really impact fiscal policy. But I do love the
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Speaker 1: pro growth stance that Trump has and the fact that
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Speaker 1: he wants the rain and expenses. And you know, we'll
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Speaker 1: see how that actually plays out over the next four
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Speaker 1: years because it's not all him, right.
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Speaker 3: Right, that's for sure. Well though right now it's all
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Speaker 3: him because everything he's doing can be done by executive order.
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Speaker 3: One thing I think it's the hugest wild card out
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Speaker 3: there that we will We're going to find out about
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Speaker 3: soon enough.
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Speaker 1: AI. What's your So the reality is that we get
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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about AI. It's it's increased productivity
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Speaker 1: for companies in a dramatic way. I use AI virtually
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Speaker 1: to send all my emails. At this point, you can't
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Speaker 1: craft an email as fast as AI can. It won't
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Speaker 1: be as good, it won't be as thorough. It is
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Speaker 1: just you know, caused me to be very, very efficient
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Speaker 1: with my time, and from a productivity standpoint, when companies
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Speaker 1: start to grasp the use of AI, it's going to
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Speaker 1: cause their employees to be very, very efficient. The fear
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Speaker 1: that I have are are couple fears. The first fear
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Speaker 1: is the fact that if you have broken English and
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Speaker 1: you can, you know, halfway say a sentence in the AI,
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Speaker 1: you can essentially create a resume, and this resume is
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Speaker 1: going to be the best resume that anyone on the
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Speaker 1: face of this planet has ever seen because it was
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Speaker 1: automatically generated. And when we get that resume to our office,
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Speaker 1: we don't really know anything about you. Same thing with
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Speaker 1: an email. You send an email to us that wasn't
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Speaker 1: drafted by you, we don't really know anything about you.
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Speaker 1: We're not sure who we're dealing with. There are AI
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Speaker 1: platforms now that could take my face and make me
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Speaker 1: say what it is, and this whole entire interview could
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Speaker 1: actually be done by AI, and you wouldn't know whether
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Speaker 1: it was me or AI doing it. Now. I have
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Speaker 1: to tell you, Carrie, it's me, but you wouldn't know,
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Speaker 1: and so it's scary from that standpoint. But from an
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Speaker 1: investor standpoint, the fear that I would have is We've
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Speaker 1: had calls from people trying to jump on the bandwagon
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Speaker 1: to try to find that. You know, how do I
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Speaker 1: invest in chat ept open Ai And that's a mistake.
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Speaker 1: You know, people are looking for the next apple where
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Speaker 1: they can put ten thousand dollars into and then you know,
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Speaker 1: in fifteen or twenty years have millions of dollars. And
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Speaker 1: you have to remember, for every apple, there were probably
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Speaker 1: ten thousand failed apples, and so you don't want to
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Speaker 1: chase it. And that's the fear that I have is
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are trying to get get rich quick,
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Speaker 1: and you still need to have a balance averts by portfolio,
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Speaker 1: but not trying to find the one thing, you know,
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Speaker 1: the the n video that you think is going to
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Speaker 1: be great over the next ten years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But the other thing is the impact on the
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Speaker 3: overall economy. It's just progressing way faster than anybody out
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Speaker 3: there except for the real insiders understand like Elon must
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Speaker 3: have been warning about.
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Speaker 1: It for years.
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Speaker 3: But now it's going to hit critical mass. It's going
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Speaker 3: to change everything.
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Speaker 1: One hundred You know, the reality is that it already
10:19
Speaker 1: has changed a lot of things. It's changed things in
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Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical world, that can analyze medical conditions faster than
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Speaker 1: any human can and much more accurate and you know,
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Speaker 1: do analysis. The reality though, is that as it does this,
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Speaker 1: not only is it going to be more efficient, the
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Speaker 1: question I should say is whether it's going to cost jobs?
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Speaker 1: Is it going to actually take place of workers? And
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Speaker 1: there's arguments that say, because it's so efficient you need less, we're.
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Speaker 3: Going to it is, there's no question, But.
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Speaker 1: There is the other side that says, well, we're going
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Speaker 1: to need.
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Speaker 3: More workers for the end. No, but no, and I
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Speaker 3: agree with you.
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Speaker 1: The reality is that it's it is going to take
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Speaker 1: job in my opinion as far as that's concerned. But
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Speaker 1: now look at what's happened. China came out the other
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Speaker 1: day with this Sikh and Ali Baba has a program
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Speaker 1: where now they're starting to be even more efficient, and
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Speaker 1: the stock market didn't necessarily like that, The NAZAC didn't
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Speaker 1: like that, you know, but all of a sudden, realizing
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Speaker 1: that our own AI system can be much more efficient
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Speaker 1: than it is. And whereas open ai was pretty much
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Speaker 1: the only one out there, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of competitors in there.
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Speaker 3: So there's Grock three is the one to watch which
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Speaker 3: is hooked into X point is it's going to take jobs.
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Speaker 3: There's no question in my mind, because for me, using
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Speaker 3: AI could be about ten to twenty times more effective
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Speaker 3: then i'd be. Otherwise, if you're a lawyer and you're
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Speaker 3: not using AI, you don't know what you're doing, well,
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Speaker 3: that's lost. I might because somebody sent me a couple
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Speaker 3: of contracts. I don't even practice anywhere, Anthony. You know
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Speaker 3: that I'm America's top recovering attorney, and they wanted me
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Speaker 3: to look them both through. And it's like, I'm not
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Speaker 3: getting paid for this, and I got the genius idea.
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Speaker 3: Just load both of them into chat GPT, I said,
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Speaker 3: compare each section of these agreements and in a third
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Speaker 3: put one in one column revision A, and one revision
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Speaker 3: B and two and put the meaning of each clause
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Speaker 3: in column three. And it took all of about a
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Speaker 3: minute and a half to do it. It was slow
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Speaker 3: that day. And then I looked through it. You know,
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Speaker 3: obviously the parts of the agreement that you know that
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Speaker 3: was the easy part. Interpreting it is the difficult part.
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Speaker 3: I'd say I'd give it a ninety five on the
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Speaker 3: interpretation all I did was change around a couple of
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Speaker 3: things because I didn't like it, but it gave me
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Speaker 3: a starting point. I replaced a couple and it took
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Speaker 3: me all of fifteen minutes what would have taken me
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Speaker 3: hours in the past. So even lawyers aren't safe. This
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Speaker 3: is a white collar of threat. And you know, I
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Speaker 3: think the impact is unimaginable, and we'll see it very quickly.
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Speaker 3: In the next six months, six to eighteen months, you
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Speaker 3: won't recognize the world. And then five years, who the
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Speaker 3: heck knows?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I fully, fully agree.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I heard someone say I don't know a year year
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Speaker 1: and a half ago. As soon as really open, AI
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Speaker 1: kind of came out whenever that was, and he said,
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Speaker 1: if you don't, if you're not scared to death of
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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, or you're not excited out of your mind,
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Speaker 1: you just don't understand it. I think there's truth on
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Speaker 1: both of those things. Scared to death for the reasons
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Speaker 1: that I talked about earlier is that you can impersonate
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Speaker 1: someone and you know, at some point you don't really
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Speaker 1: know who you're dealing with. And I'm worried about our kids.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you tell this thing to write a
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Speaker 1: paper about you know, the Great Depression of nineteen twenty nine.
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Speaker 1: It will come out and that's all you need to
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Speaker 1: tell it. Literally, it will write the best paper you've
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Speaker 1: ever seen. And the plagiarism that can go on and
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Speaker 1: the cheating that can go on, you know, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you have kids that are not intelligent at all,
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Speaker 1: because they don't need to be. They just need to
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Speaker 1: tell something what to do, and it thinks for you.
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Speaker 1: And it does take the place of thinking, which is
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Speaker 1: what scares me to death about it. The exciting part
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Speaker 1: is the efficiency of the efficiency, the calculations, the analysis.
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Speaker 1: If you want to do a study of the stock
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Speaker 1: market history, you can go into chat GPT and say,
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Speaker 1: you know, give me a one page report on the
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Speaker 1: history of the stock market. It will do all that.
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Speaker 1: It's just absolutely amazing. It will write your emails, like
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Speaker 1: you said, it will analyze your documents. You know, as
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Speaker 1: an attorney. Every now and then, I'll have it right
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Speaker 1: legal documents for me. You you know, you know, got practicing,
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Speaker 1: so you might not even be aware. I can go
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Speaker 1: in there and have it write a legal document for
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Speaker 1: me and just tell what to do and it will
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Speaker 1: come up with the perfect legal document hits it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got to not pull a Michael Cohne.
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Speaker 3: You got to check those sites because that and make
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Speaker 3: stuff up. So check them, because you just feed the
15:04
Speaker 3: sites into the inter chat GP pulls up the case
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Speaker 3: and you're there. You know, it's interesting. Elon Musk said,
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Speaker 3: they've run out of data to feed the thing. It's
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Speaker 3: gotten all the data it possibly can, and now it's
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Speaker 3: got to like make up its own data and figure
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Speaker 3: out stuff from there. It's pretty wild, and yeah, you can't.
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Speaker 3: It's like to me, it's like when you have the
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Speaker 3: Tesla autopilot. You could theoretically just let the car drive,
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Speaker 3: but you've got to be supervising it and checking its work.
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Speaker 3: But we're going to get to the point where you
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Speaker 3: won't have to. There's no question the Chinese one has
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Speaker 3: its limitations. I already hit it. It looks very good on
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Speaker 3: the surface. It wouldn't surprise me if it's just a
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Speaker 3: front end to some other you know, it's just a
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Speaker 3: front end to some other a that's already out there working.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think they found a slicker
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Speaker 3: way to figure that stuff out. And don't ask it
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Speaker 3: about Teman Square or Taiwan, because you're not going to
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Speaker 3: get a straight answer, Anthony. So investing, where are we
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Speaker 3: going to be at the end of the year when
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Speaker 3: we have our end of the year call mark it up, down, sideways,
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Speaker 3: rates higher, lower, economy booming or busting.
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Speaker 1: So I don't see anything in the near future, including
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Speaker 1: this year, that is going to cause a bust in
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Speaker 1: the economy. I think we'll be higher in a year
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Speaker 1: than we are from now because of the pro growth
16:40
Speaker 1: policies that Trump is put into play, because the tax
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Speaker 1: policies are most likely going to get extended you know
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Speaker 1: as well too, So I think you're at the end
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Speaker 1: of the year, we're higher. The reality though, is that
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Speaker 1: we're not out of the recession possibility yet and that
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Speaker 1: I think that's important to understand. You know, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get a lot of opinion on all these different news
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Speaker 1: networks in media. Some people think higher, some people think lower,
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Speaker 1: and you know, you almost get that, at least for
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Speaker 1: me when people I've talked to from my radio show
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Speaker 1: or you know, otherwise, you almost get that fomal feeling.
17:15
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of people that feel, you
17:17
Speaker 1: know that that maybe got conservative last year or before Trump.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people, especially in California, you got more
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Speaker 1: conservative before Trump because they thought everything was going to crash.
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Speaker 1: If it's the same thing that happened last time, right,
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Speaker 1: and the same result happened last time too. Nothing happened,
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Speaker 1: nothing crashed, And so there is this fear missing out.
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Speaker 1: And my fear is that if this fomo takes over
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Speaker 1: and you start to act emotionally and not necessarily intelligently,
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Speaker 1: then you can let your emotions take over and you
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Speaker 1: can go all in. And if we have a recession
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Speaker 1: or a crash, and that's not out of the possibility.
17:50
Speaker 1: If we have a recession or crash and you're on
17:52
Speaker 1: the bringer retirement, it could cost you your retirement if
17:55
Speaker 1: you if you're younger, keep dollar cost averaging in and
17:58
Speaker 1: whether the market's up or down, dollar cost averaging is
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Speaker 1: the best way to go. It drives the average purchase
18:03
Speaker 1: price down. But if you're older, meaning within five years
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Speaker 1: of retirement, you probably want to take this opportunity to
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Speaker 1: take some chips off the table and start shoring up
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Speaker 1: your portfolio. Our yield curve is none inverted now. It
18:16
Speaker 1: was inverted for years, and that's a sign of recession. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but many recessions have occurred after the yield curve uninverted,
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Speaker 1: and so just because it uninverted, a lot of people
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Speaker 1: think that r out of the woods. That's not the case.
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Speaker 1: So the answer a question is, I think we're going
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Speaker 1: to be up for the next six months. I think
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Speaker 1: even the year. I have strong feeling that it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a good year. But it's not. Nothing's for
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Speaker 1: certain when it comes to the market.
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Speaker 3: You just have to be careful, all right, the trump bump.
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Speaker 3: You know, like they said in that movie Full Metal Jacket,
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Speaker 3: men will live and die, but the core is forever.
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Speaker 3: Men will live and die, but the markets forever, Yes, sir,
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Speaker 3: all right, Hey tell us how do we connect with you?
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Speaker 3: How do we find you on the web?
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Speaker 1: Sure? Absolutely, Probably the best place is just go to
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Speaker 1: Anthony Scaro dot com. That'll lead you to my law firm.
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Speaker 1: It'll lead you to my financial firm. Or you can
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Speaker 1: search Anthony Sikar anywhere on Google Providence Financial and Insurance
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Speaker 1: Services the name of my company. You can search that
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Speaker 1: on the website or go to Providence Financial Inc. Dot com.
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Speaker 3: All right, excellent. Hey, Well, if you've got a question
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Speaker 3: for Anthony myself, shoot me an email kl atcarrielts dot
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Speaker 3: com and you'll find a link to Anthony's site in
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Speaker 1: Oh esks.
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Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on, Anthony, we'll talk to you again
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Speaker 3: real soon.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Kerry.
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