Latest / Making Medicine / FDA Leadership, China & The Future of American Biotech
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- 0:00Speaker 1: At Making Medicine. We're reporting on the headlines, not making
- 0:03Speaker 1: medical recommendations. For personal health questions, always ask your doctor.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Nothing in this episode constitutes investment, financial, or legal advice.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Consult your own advisors before making decisions. But it has
- 0:16Speaker 1: to be crystal clear across all of these hearings, whether
- 0:20Speaker 1: it's IP, FDA or something like our research programs at
- 0:23Speaker 1: the NIH, we have to uplift. We have to have
- 0:26Speaker 1: bipartisan support for this part of the ecosystem that drives
- 0:30Speaker 1: everything forward. Welcome back to the Making Medicine Podcast, where science,
- 0:39Speaker 1: policy and innovation meet. I'm your host John Stanford. This
- 0:43Speaker 1: week we'll cover the latest one who could become the
- 0:46Speaker 1: next leader of the FDA. We'll highlight some key hearings
- 0:49Speaker 1: happening on Capitol Hill, and round out the episode with
- 0:52Speaker 1: our Approvals Corner celebrating new medicines making their way to patience.
- 0:57Speaker 1: And as Grace mentioned last week, we're really excited to
- 0:59Speaker 1: be launching a new series as we celebrate our nation's
- 1:02Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth birthday and fifty years of biotech.
- 1:06Speaker 1: That series is called How America Makes Medicine because no
- 1:10Speaker 1: country does drug development just like we do, and this
- 1:13Speaker 1: series will trace the uniquely American relay race from university
- 1:17Speaker 1: lab to startup, to investor, to pharma, to regulator and
- 1:21Speaker 1: eventually to patient that makes us the world's leader in
- 1:25Speaker 1: biotech innovation. We'll be bringing on guests at the heart
- 1:28Speaker 1: of that story, from scientists and founders to investors in policymakers,
- 1:32Speaker 1: and to kick that series off next week, I'm thrilled
- 1:35Speaker 1: to be joined by Kate Hudson of the Association of
- 1:38Speaker 1: American Universities. We'll be highlighting early stage research and the
- 1:42Speaker 1: key role our academic centers play in drug development. You
- 1:45Speaker 1: won't want to miss it, and you won't want to
- 1:47Speaker 1: miss any episodes of this great series. With that, let's
- 1:50Speaker 1: get into the show. Our first story is an update
- 1:53Speaker 1: on the leadership search at the Food and Drug Administration.
- 1:56Speaker 1: News is reporting that we may be nearing the finish
- 1:59Speaker 1: line on non dominating someone for consideration in the Senate.
- 2:02Speaker 1: The three finalists being reported is considered for the position
- 2:05Speaker 1: are Heidi Overton, a White House advisor with ties to
- 2:09Speaker 1: the former Commissioner, Jeffrey Vichirka, an oncologist and CEO of
- 2:14Speaker 1: New York Cancer and Blood Specialists, and Steven Ferrara, a
- 2:17Speaker 1: health affairs official at the Defense Department who previously served
- 2:21Speaker 1: as the CIA's chief medical officer. None of the three
- 2:25Speaker 1: have commented publicly yet about speculation of their naming, and
- 2:28Speaker 1: the timing of a final decision is still unclear, but
- 2:32Speaker 1: the move suggests we could be getting closer after months
- 2:35Speaker 1: of leadership turmoil and frankly absence at the agency. But
- 2:39Speaker 1: whoever gets the nod will still need to clear the
- 2:42Speaker 1: Senate's Health Committee, chaired by Senator Bill Cassidy, who, as
- 2:46Speaker 1: we've talked about on previous episodes, just lost his own
- 2:49Speaker 1: primary to a Trump backed challenger. All three finalists are
- 2:53Speaker 1: medical doctors, so whoever's picked, if it comes out of
- 2:56Speaker 1: this bunch, will likely bring a very different dynamic to
- 2:59Speaker 1: FDA's leader than the current acting Commissioner, Kyle Diamantes, who
- 3:03Speaker 1: came more from the food and A side than from
- 3:06Speaker 1: the scientific background that these three candidates have in Cuba.
- 3:10Speaker 1: It will be watching closely as someone gets nominated, and
- 3:13Speaker 1: of course that they're hearing to see how they might
- 3:15Speaker 1: steer the agency in a new direction at a time
- 3:18Speaker 1: where both stability and modernization are needed. While we wait
- 3:22Speaker 1: for that, FDA nomination. Congress is still hard at work
- 3:25Speaker 1: and biotech is front and center, and several hearings happening
- 3:28Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill this week. Come back next week for
- 3:31Speaker 1: our read on what was covered. But this is what's
- 3:33Speaker 1: on the radar. The Energy and Commerce Health Subcommittee has
- 3:37Speaker 1: a hearing on FDA and biomedical innovation. It's happening literally
- 3:41Speaker 1: as we record this, So a full readout again will
- 3:44Speaker 1: be next week once we've watched and attended the whole thing.
- 3:47Speaker 1: But we pulled the five written testimonies, and here's what
- 3:50Speaker 1: stood out to us, and they're written testimonies. Every witness
- 3:54Speaker 1: pointed to one country, China, and that's no surprise. We've
- 3:57Speaker 1: been talking about it so much on making Medicine, about
- 4:00Speaker 1: the role China's playing in our biomedical ecosystem. One of
- 4:04Speaker 1: the first witnesses, Thomas Bolkei, is that the Council of
- 4:07Speaker 1: Foreign Relations, and he started out by laying out the numbers.
- 4:11Speaker 1: China's share of global clinical trial starts went from one
- 4:14Speaker 1: percent in two thousand and nine to about thirty percent
- 4:17Speaker 1: last year. Early stage trials they were run three to
- 4:20Speaker 1: five times faster at a third to half the cost.
- 4:23Speaker 1: But while there was agreement that China's rise is borne
- 4:26Speaker 1: out by the numbers, there's clearly some difference of opinion
- 4:29Speaker 1: on what the fix for this surging country might be.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Bulky highlighted that just twenty of the more than twenty
- 4:35Speaker 1: seven hundred GCP inspections occurred in China from twenty sixteen
- 4:40Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three. These inspections are on the ground
- 4:42Speaker 1: seeing what's really happening, and it comes down to resources
- 4:46Speaker 1: and bandwidth. But some others argued that the real win
- 4:49Speaker 1: is not focusing on China and what they're doing there,
- 4:51Speaker 1: but making the US faster, not walling China off. That's
- 4:55Speaker 1: certainly something we've heard a lot from guests on the
- 4:58Speaker 1: Making Medicine podcast. Thomas Wang, assistant professor of medicine at
- 5:02Speaker 1: Brigham and Women's Hospital and at Harvard Medical School, even
- 5:06Speaker 1: showed Chinese originated cancer drugs scored substantial clinical benefit twice
- 5:11Speaker 1: as often as everyone else's, so blanket exclusions by country
- 5:16Speaker 1: of origin don't serve patients. Put another way, doctor Hwang
- 5:20Speaker 1: was pointing out that frankly, there is great innovation and
- 5:24Speaker 1: hope for patients in the cancer space in particular that
- 5:28Speaker 1: is coming out of China, and it wouldn't make sense
- 5:31Speaker 1: to prevent US patients from accessing that. But a second
- 5:34Speaker 1: big takeaway is that the bottleneck isn't FDA review times.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Cynthia Verse did Acuvia was crystal clear, it's the time
- 5:42Speaker 1: and resources to assemble the I and D package itself.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Emerging biopharma drive over seventy five percent of new Phase
- 5:50Speaker 1: one starts, and they're going to China or Australia or
- 5:54Speaker 1: others for early speed to signal while they build the
- 5:58Speaker 1: full package for their I and D in the United States.
- 6:01Speaker 1: The fix from a QBUS standpoint is a quote fit
- 6:03Speaker 1: for fih minimum data set to support safe to precede
- 6:07Speaker 1: decisions and more iterative feedback from the FDA earlier on.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have other key tidbits, but that's what
- 6:14Speaker 1: stood out from the written testimony we were able to
- 6:17Speaker 1: get our hands on it making medicine. We'll dive in
- 6:20Speaker 1: more next week, but what is clear is this hearing's
- 6:23Speaker 1: happening at the same time that we talk about the
- 6:25Speaker 1: user fee reauthorization of the FDA PADUFA. Check out our
- 6:29Speaker 1: great episode on PADUFA and what it could mean to
- 6:32Speaker 1: the ecosystem. So it makes sense that there's a lot
- 6:35Speaker 1: of focus on FDA reforms. We'll wait to see which
- 6:38Speaker 1: witnesses seem to score the most points with members of Congress.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Can we glean any intel where policymakers on both sides
- 6:45Speaker 1: of the aisle think about going as it relates to China, Australia,
- 6:49Speaker 1: the US and other countries for the future of clinical trials.
- 6:52Speaker 1: But the FDA wasn't the only hearing in town. The
- 6:55Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee met Tuesday for a hearing titled from
- 6:59Speaker 1: Jean's Time Machines the patent eligibility debate, so intellectual property
- 7:04Speaker 1: was very much in vogue this week as well. As
- 7:06Speaker 1: many listeners know, court decisions have left certain innovations, including
- 7:10Speaker 1: a diagnostics, gene based inventions, and now AI driven discoveries,
- 7:15Speaker 1: in a gray zone where innovators can't be sure if
- 7:18Speaker 1: their work's even patentable. For early stage biotech, that uncertainty
- 7:23Speaker 1: is a tax on investment. We'll be watching whether this
- 7:27Speaker 1: hearing builds momentum for legislative reform, namely the Patent Eligibility
- 7:31Speaker 1: Restoration Act or PARA, championed by Friend of the show
- 7:35Speaker 1: Senator Tom Tillis, along with Senators Koons, Herono and Blackburn.
- 7:39Speaker 1: A House version has also been introduced and led by
- 7:42Speaker 1: Representatives Kevin Kylie and Scott Peters. It's something that incubate
- 7:47Speaker 1: the makers of making medicine podcasts. Has also weighed in
- 7:50Speaker 1: on we have to give crystal clear intellectual property protections
- 7:54Speaker 1: for investment to continue. It's a non starter to do otherwise,
- 7:58Speaker 1: and para and legislation like it is needed to move
- 8:02Speaker 1: the conversation forward and modernize an outstanding IP system that
- 8:06Speaker 1: is in need of some reform. Finally, also on Wednesday,
- 8:11Speaker 1: the House Select Committee on China is holding a hearing
- 8:13Speaker 1: protecting American Innovation the Federal Research Security Enterprise with witnesses
- 8:18Speaker 1: from the Department of Energy NIH and the National Science Foundation.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Research Security sits right at the intersection we talk about
- 8:26Speaker 1: constantly on the show, how do we protect American science
- 8:30Speaker 1: from exploitation without choking off the openness that makes it work.
- 8:34Speaker 1: With NIH at the witness table, expect questions about foreign
- 8:38Speaker 1: talent programs, data security, and who gets access to federally
- 8:42Speaker 1: funded research. But it has to be crystal clear across
- 8:46Speaker 1: all of these hearings, whether it's IP FDA or something
- 8:50Speaker 1: like our research programs at the NIH. We have to uplift,
- 8:54Speaker 1: We have to have bipartisan support for this part of
- 8:57Speaker 1: the ecosystem that drives everything forward. I was fortunate to
- 9:01Speaker 1: spend this morning at a roundtable with a number of
- 9:03Speaker 1: leading patient advocates, and one thing was crystal clear. Backing
- 9:07Speaker 1: off the federally funded research, not making it available would
- 9:11Speaker 1: damage the hopes of patients, not just in the US,
- 9:14Speaker 1: but around the world. We are still the beacon of
- 9:17Speaker 1: light to patient communities everywhere, so it is critically important
- 9:20Speaker 1: that we hear in these hearings just how vital that
- 9:23Speaker 1: early stage research funding is. And finally, one of our
- 9:27Speaker 1: favorite parts of the show, getting to the FDA approvals corner.
- 9:30Speaker 1: We missed out on covering what happened in May, so
- 9:33Speaker 1: we have two months worth of good news for patients
- 9:36Speaker 1: and of course for the companies that have invested millions
- 9:39Speaker 1: and billions of dollars in bringing these drugs forward. On
- 9:42Speaker 1: May first, the FDA approved Vipanu from Reigel Pharmaceuticals. It
- 9:47Speaker 1: treats certain advanced or metastatic breast cancers in patients whose
- 9:50Speaker 1: disease progressed after at least one round of endocrine therapy.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Later on May thirteenth, Butclsey from b One Medicines was
- 9:57Speaker 1: approved to treat certain patients with real lapse to refractory
- 10:01Speaker 1: mantle cell lymphoma. On May fifteenth, Backfensdi was approved. It's
- 10:05Speaker 1: astrozenica's drug used alongside other drugs to treat high blood pressure.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Only a week later, on May twenty second, Gilead Sciences
- 10:13Speaker 1: received approval for hepclutics to treat chronic hepatitis delta virus infection.
- 10:18Speaker 1: On May twenty seventh, AVI got approval for a dec
- 10:21Speaker 1: nupaz and stay with me. On this it was approved
- 10:23Speaker 1: for adults with blastic plasma citoid dendritic cell neoplasm, a
- 10:28Speaker 1: rare and aggressive blood cancer. It's great to see a
- 10:31Speaker 1: win for the rare cancer community. On May twenty ninth,
- 10:34Speaker 1: Sipsato from hischopharmaceutical group was approved to induce general anesesia
- 10:39Speaker 1: in adults undergoing surgery. On the same day, Shinogi's Zokova
- 10:43Speaker 1: was cleared as post exposure of prophylaxis for COVID nineteen
- 10:47Speaker 1: for people who've been in contact with someone with the virus.
- 10:50Speaker 1: I should give a shout out to Shinogi's great team.
- 10:52Speaker 1: In Japan, with whom Incubates spend a lot of time
- 10:54Speaker 1: talking about patient axis in that country and how innovation
- 10:58Speaker 1: broad is critically important for American patients. And also on
- 11:02Speaker 1: May twenty ninth, the third drug approval was zanich from Walkhart,
- 11:06Speaker 1: which was approved to treat complicated urinary tract infections. It
- 11:10Speaker 1: was a big month in May, but June had some
- 11:12Speaker 1: great approvals as well. On the twelfth, Behar's m belvist
- 11:16Speaker 1: was approved as an imaging agent to be used with
- 11:18Speaker 1: MRIs to detect and visualize lesions with abnormal blood vessel activity.
- 11:24Speaker 1: On June seventeenth, GSK's Utebzi was approved to treat complicated
- 11:28Speaker 1: urinary tract infections, and finally, on June twenty ninth, Varridian
- 11:33Speaker 1: Therapeutics Lumova was approved to treat thyroid eye disease. That
- 11:38Speaker 1: was a lot and apologies in advance for any mispronunciations
- 11:43Speaker 1: of products or companies, but it's great to see such
- 11:45Speaker 1: a diverse set of products coming forward for patients in
- 11:48Speaker 1: the United States. Credit to the team at the FDA
- 11:51Speaker 1: for working through these incredible data packages bringing hope to
- 11:55Speaker 1: patients and to the entrepreneurs and scientists who made them possible.
- 11:59Speaker 1: As always, we'll keep tracking what's coming down the pipeline,
- 12:02Speaker 1: so stay tuned in future episodes for July's roundup of
- 12:05Speaker 1: FDA approvals That wraps up this episode of the Making
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- 12:15Speaker 1: in our American made series. Do you have thoughts on
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- 12:23Speaker 1: and as always, keep innovating