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I'm in People's Brains Ft. Bush · 78 Amped

• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna do something similar.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Maxwell.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: All natural.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Maxwell, some UK grunge royalty on the show today.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: Big Gav.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: Big Gavin Rostell from Bush jumped on the line.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: This one was a very interesting chat, Maxwell.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, Bush are heading down under with a co-headline tour alongside Shinedown.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Which is awesome.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's so sick.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: And for those that are listening that go, oh, I'm not familiar with Bush.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: You definitely are.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone knows Glycerine.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: I so when I was editing this podcast, I put it on and I was like, this one fucking slaps.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: So good.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: But then there is some depth in the bench as well.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like they and and some of the new we you guys cover it in the interview.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the new stuff is really like different sounding, but very cool.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we yeah, like you said, we talk about that quite in depth.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: We talk about their new music and how their new generation of fans are coming through and discovering different parts of the band that you know Gavin didn't really think they would.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then we sort of dive into the life of Gavin Rostale as well because obviously he is you know a man of many talents.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: He's got a cooking show.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: So we talk in with Gavin Rostale, which is cool.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um and he's had guests like Serena Williams, he's had a bunch of very, very Tom Jones.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we we put we're interviewing an interviewer, yeah.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: But then we're we're twisting the narrative a little bit, which is cool.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to he mentions it in the show.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to the kids that are named after him, which is fucking imagining being like that's that's kind of cool.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Baller.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Huge move.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's cool talking to people of that stature, yeah, because they just they say shit and you're like, yeah, okay.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: But no, but then exactly.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well Sam, I'll throw it to you to uh take us away with Gavin and Gavin Rostale.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: Joining us all the way from the UK, rock and roll legend, Gavin Rostale.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Mate, welcome to the show.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, mate.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: Great to be.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm in Los Angeles actually.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, I'm gonna start that all again.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna start that again.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's a shocking start.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so sorry.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's all right.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_03: I I could have been.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: How do you not know?
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's just Zoom.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, probably uh not my I was bound to stuff it up at some stage.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: So look, you're in the US.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: We'll roll with that.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think it it makes for a more authentic podcast if I start with a mistake.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe we'll keep it in.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_03: Keep all of this in.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_03: Keep it all in.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: We're not a professional podcast, exactly.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: But um, look, the first the first question we always start with on the podcast is just to get an idea of what you're spinning in your playlist as of late.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh well, I've really been uh kind of taking that interesting vibe of uh the architects, poppy, this and that metal core stuff.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_03: Really find that kind of really interesting, but also at the same time, um so that for kind of dark, wild, riffing studio world, uh keyboards, the new evanescence record.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, it's just a few people behind it all, it seems.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and you know, um so that's what I've been listening to, as well as uh Labyrinth.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: I just love that.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's just it's just brilliant, just so so good.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and there's a new song Prostitute, which I think is the song of the year for me.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's just brilliant.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, all the stuff that he was doing on the Euphoria soundtrack as well, it's incredible.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, special.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just love all the broken down stuff, and and and and the link, the link through it all is I love all that broken, weird stuff, yeah.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I am really keen to dive into all that sort of stuff, and look, there is a lot to talk about, including an upcoming Australian tour.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_02: But first of all, I mean, you said off air that you have just been in the desert.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: Have you managed to take a breath yet?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: Because it seems like Bush has been playing all over the place.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: Sonic Temple, Tiny Desks.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: Have you stopped to I guess take a breather and and recharge?
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_03: I just I went just two days in the desert.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_03: My girlfriend uh uh at her suggestion.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I so I did it.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_03: I did it, I did it relaxed for two days and just like cooked and watched the football and drank wine, and it was a wild time, so I did, but but now I'm back in the big big smoke of Los Angeles and in my studio, and I gotta go get my dog, and then uh there's there's uh yeah, it just it's just full on.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't know, like I I don't know, I just love to live this really full life for some reason.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_03: Just it's always going.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_03: It's always going.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, I mean we can dive straight into it because I was gonna say, you know, you you mentioned you you spent a lot of time in the kitchen, along with the music stuff, you've got dinner with Gavin Ross.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: Dow, you're always busy doing something.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: Do you find it difficult to switch off?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: Do you find it kind of relaxing and recharging quite a I guess an active task?
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, because the worst thing is I thought I was getting away with it years ago when I avoided getting a job, right?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_03: I avoided getting a job and thought I could do something artistic just to avoid doing any kind of labor.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: And then what happened is I fell in love with making the music and doing all that and finding all the outlets and all the you know the things that everybody says, you know, it's a great place to put all my what I think about the world.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_03: You make you make things, make songs.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_03: But then the worst part is that you you then get inspired by uh you the idea that you could really be working all the time.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_03: There's no reason to really switch off too much.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_03: If you have a job nine to five, you do it, but if you're doing it yourself, you know, it's it's it really makes sense to be disciplined about it and apply yourself to your job.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_03: So in which case you sort of fill most days with something like I've got to be slightly productive most days.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: If I was I feel like a sloth I'm not productive, but I just yeah, I just I just I know things gotta be nudged forward and things done.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: So when you do that, it's all the like the incrementing journey of a thousand steps, you know, it's one step at a time.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I like to keep on top of things, and I'm in the cusp of like I'm in the middle of thinking about the new record and writing new songs and stuff like that.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_03: So that that means I'm a nightmare because I'm just like suspicious the whole time, and I'm suspicious that I might see a line somewhere that I won't I'm like, it's gonna make sense to me.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'll be reading a copy of something there that is that the the line for me.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: Who's talking to me today?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_03: Where's the universe shining?
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_03: And uh so yeah, I apply myself in that way.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of uh midnight wake-ups chucking notes down in your phone and all that stuff.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean the thing is that I I'm really disciplined about actually making songs.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: I don't sit around and wait for inspiration because I think that's nonsense.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_03: I wait for a gap in the schedule, and then I do that, which is what I have coming up.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, I've got two days of press.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_03: I thought I had this Thursday and Fridays to be like in the studio, but did it, but yeah, so I I love it, you know.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: It is a really fun thing to do, and you know, now um with a with a sort of advent of studios and technology, you could be in here on your own and just be like sounding like you know ten of you who are having a laugh, you know.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's like wow, all this is happening, you know.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, so I like that.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't do my own vocals, I do have an engineer to come and do the vocals, but I can pretty much arrange things in the computer, um, you know, arrange the songs together.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_03: So it's kind of fun for that.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it feels like the production levels nowadays that you know you see bands coming up and they're just doing everything, you know, in their own bedroom sounding like they're in a multi-million dollar studio.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's incredible.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, unless you're a studio owner, then it starts sounds bad.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, it's awful for them.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely fucked.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_03: Apart from live drums, apart from live drums, you know, it's hard to know why you'd go to a studio.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_03: But you know what it is all always, though, to be serious, is that lovely mic collections.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's what that's one that gets people to go to studios.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, it is.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Well, look, let's chat Bush for a second because I was watching some clips from your Sonic Temple Festival uh a few weeks ago, and and the crowd sort of took my note, like took my eye.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: That there's such a rage at range of age demographics, and it feels like rock is really truly back in the spotlight again.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: Down here in Australia, we're seeing such a resurgence with the amount of younger people attending punk and grunge and metal shows.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, for you, how have you seen that change and um have you noticed, you know, a change to Bush's crowds?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: The last year or so, like it we've been working so hard and so many songs and so many tours that like these last year or so it's been like it more like it was, you know.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's been yeah when I go I make a point of going out into the crowd because I really like that the in the insanity of it that it just nobody it's just what the who the f would do that.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: So I like it, and I go, I go so I've been going so far back in these festivals, I just like the next stop is the is the hot dog stands, the caterers, you know, the age of the festival.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'm just like and when I've gone out in the crowds, a lot often it's like a field trip kind of thing because you sort of see what's really happening.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's one thing to see the masses in front of the stage, but when you start going, you know, really, really far back as you can go, you start seeing you know, people uh in a different light, you know, there's a bit more space, people are talking, but still seeing a lot of love, a lot of focus on the stage, which is really it's really fun.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like check it, just check in and then you have to run back, like 500 meters, you know.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, by the time you get back there, you just got blokes crossing their arms, pretending that they're you know all serious, but having the time of their life, and the behaviour changes back there.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: You're absolutely right, because the range of ages has been uh probably the biggest um sort of surprise over the last two years, say, last two years.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: Are you finding it's shifting to be you know a mixture of um people that grew up with the colour?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: There's also uh the songs are doing well at radio, you know, the new songs are doing well at radio, so you get a whole load of people coming to the show who don't know the first record, and it's amazing.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's sort of like you're just a bit freer from that, you know.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but really good, you know.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like what a dream come true to to have a multi-generational audience.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's just like that's madness, that's like that's like queen or something, you know what I mean?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, I don't know.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: It's all you can ask for.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's a lot, so uh you too or something like that, you know.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh super cool, yeah.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that's why it inspires me to make even better new music, you know.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, like I really want to like like I'm sort of you know, I got the bug, you know, I got like I got the I got the bug.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_03: I've had it for a long time, but I just I just want to make something great.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_03: I want to people to be surprised.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like my favourite thing about the records we've been making in the last few years is surprise it gives people because um you know, when I did the Sea of Memories, for example, you know, there's a couple of songs, it's like I I'm proud of it, but I sort of felt like I was treading water a little bit.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: And after I did the black and white rainbows, when I was thinking about my future and my life and everything, I just thought I just want to make heavy music, that's all I care about, it's all I care about.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: All detuning because every festival I was doing, choosing all the detuned songs off of every record, and I was like, you're an idiot, just like just so from the kingdom, so for the kingdom, art of survival, and uh I'd be loneless, those three, um, they've all been all just detuned and all getting better and better, and heavier and heavier, weirder and weirder.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: And so, what's next is we're primed to really not fuck it up and have a really great record.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that um, you know, we'll figure it.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_03: So it's it's like it's exciting, it's an exciting time for us, and in that in and of itself is sounds a bit ridiculous.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: It sounds like I can't believe I'm saying it, but what a what a what a way to live, you know.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so much happier to live like this, to be genuinely thrilled.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm right facing the studio, I mean in here, it's gonna be amazing, you know.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: I've got like, you know, and then you do stuff.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've heard bands on the road, I've seen shows, I've felt where we've been strongest, um uh, or I've seen where someone's not been good, or I haven't been good, or what I've thought, whatever I've thought is get I get the chance to redress it here, be like clean slate.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_03: What am I gonna do?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna win the cup final?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: What's the team?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you make a make a big song, and that's it's it's you know, it gives purpose and intent to the music, you know.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I feel like feels driven, you know.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's why it's sounds driven.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, to your point, I mean I beat loneliness, listening back to it, it it is this sort of heavier sound, and you explore a little bit more synth than some people would be used to with Bush, and it feels very um it feels new, it feels mature, and it feels I guess an evolution of the sound.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess with this, you know, working on the new stuff, is it just you know, the world you're oyster, whatever sort of feels right, whatever feels comfortable is what you'll explore sonically?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, within the parameters of all the people that come to the shows, you know, I I I I know I I definitely feel that when I write it's with my favourite fans and mine, my favorite people who love me, and just and just wanting to make them proud.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like well, I think it's so cool when you go to festivals and people wearing those shirts, you know, it's like a political statement to wear your shirt.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: So whenever I go in places and there's lots of festivals and to see the bush, it's just like it's such an such an honour when people kind of give their faith in you.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like when people tell me they have they've named their son after me.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: I just think fuck this a lot of pressure.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to be great for that person.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to be like, you know, oh, you know, then a guy wrote a really crap record, you know.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, thanks, mum.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he's got my name.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: That is that is a lot of pressure, actually.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's not yeah, it's pressure I like, it's the pressure to sort of deliver, and um, you know, people give you that um those compliments, and you know, to truly appreciate them, well really appreciating them, and then it gives me that confidence, and then when I'm making record, I think of them.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: I think of them, they already like me.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: And am I gonna play a record?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_03: Are they gonna be let down?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: No, they're fucking not.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_03: No, they're not.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_03: This is great, you know.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: I've maybe gone to the days of the uh you know, 25 million people, but we we we have our we have our world, and it's it's it's it's a vibe, you know, it's doing it.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I always find that anyway that another thing that I really love to think about is that uh comparison is a thief of joy.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: So don't look at other bands or what other people are doing, because everyone has their journey, and if you look too closely, you'll see that you know someone's doing too well, you're like, I didn't, I wasn't ready for that kind of success, you know.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you measure against yourself.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: So for me, I just know that going out and playing shows with tons of people loving the band, me trying to us trying to make great music and every show always being uh stellar.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: That's it, that's all we can do.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, that's it.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, comparison is the thief of joy, it but you mentioned bands like Architects, you're listening to Poppy as well.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you've come up with so many incredible bands, but with the modern contemporaries, do you look to any bands and go, shit, that's really cool.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: I like do you get any sort of inspiration or admiration for what some modern bands are doing?
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: And or is it just all you know, let's just focus on what Bush is doing?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that'd be terrible, no.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh um, I hear all the time, you know.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you mean like Radiohead or something?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, Radiohead, I love Radiohead.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: Tom York is always doing like wilder versions of himself, like he kind of different outfits, the smile, you know, he's just got his his energy, and he's just a phenomenal musician, you know.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, I like Haman Parler, you know, I think he's incredible.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: What a what a talent.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, dude, all that stuff.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, there's I think of people all the time.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean once once once I'm in the studio, I have to forget about them.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: But um all those people that I turn to, you know, like listen to Trent Rezna, you know, Dine Inch Nails and stuff like that.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um I find everyone doing interesting stuff.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I love the new Evanescence record.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, and I'm always listening to music.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's good.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, I love it.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, look, for Australian fans, they're gearing up for your impending visit in September, Bush and Shinedown co-headline tour.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's the first time, if I'm correct, that they'll hear tracks from I Beat Loneliness Live.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I guess for you, lyrically, the album is it's very raw, it's very honest and and really vulnerable at times.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: How have you found the reception in a live sense with those songs?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: I think the people who love the band, you know, uh, just know that I leave it all out there.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: I just leave it all out there.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: And so when I write those words, I just I just push myself like, is that out there enough?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: Is that as far out enough?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Is it clear enough?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: And I just think it's brilliant to be um, if you choose to be make things be an artist, you you have to be fearless and transparent and like be able to sort of uh be the most vulnerable you ever imagined.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: Because otherwise, how are you gonna speak to the most vulnerable?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: Only the most vulnerable realize that, you know what I mean?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: Because if you're not vulnerable, then people that are vulnerable want nothing to do with you, it's like a manosphere thing or something like that.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's the opposite.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's like they have to they have to know that I'm prepared to, and when I write those words, you know, I nothing the biggest compliment anyone can give anyone a songwriter is that I song that I write they inherit, and it becomes their song, it's not even my song, um, it's their song, and those words they're they're so direct that people can attach them to their own lives.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: I just I just here take those, those, those are for you.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what that's what you know, that's what people feel like with their favorite um with their you know the bands they connect to.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: I mean I'm in people's brains, right?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_03: My words, my my my fucking voice, my mouth in people's brains, like right there.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's crazy.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: I always it is pretty special.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: Or in the car, you know, fucking hell can't get rid of this fucking, you know, like this.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, it must be a foreign, like a surreal and I guess almost a foreign feeling knowing that songs you've written in the you know the space of your own home or studio are you know songs that fans really heavily emotionally attached to.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's the wildest is the biggest compliment anyone could ever give you.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's just the wild, wildest journey.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, the the funny thing about it is you never quite know who it is because it's a private relationship people have with the songs.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: They don't have to have to play me and and and FaceTime me whilst they're playing songs, you know.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's like it's all for them, you know.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: And look, before we uh look to rap, I w I'd love to ask you about the dinner with Gavin Rostale series you do because I feel like there are so many unexpected parallels between music and food and their abilities to bring people together.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: So with that, I mean, what have you learned you know, yourself from sitting down with people for for meals and and talking to such interesting people?
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: Do you find yourself that that parallel?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my my what I found is the the common link between people of what they've overcome.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: I thought I think that from an objective point of view, what was most exciting for me thinking and looking at it was I provided a platform with the most six most brilliant individual people, completely diverse, really interesting people, and just people get a chance to hear them talk and watch them and uh learn from their struggle because everyone I talk to just goes through stuff, and there are times in life where you're going through stuff and you just don't know if you're gonna get out the other side, and you think you're just stuck, and um it's really heartening and welcoming to witness someone explain their own journey, their rise, and how things are never straightforward, and so many twists and turns.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I'd love to leave the audience with um relating to that and join that that reality, you know.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I thought was the most valuable thing that I learned personally about it.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: And um, everyone is crazy and just has been through it, you know.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess yeah, there's always comfort in knowing that I guess on your journey you're not the only one that's gone through adversity and struggle.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, even just hearing you talk to Tom Jones about you know Frank Sinatra and stuff, it must have been yeah, an incredible conversation.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's an incredible man.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it was it was great.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Love it.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: And look, before we wrap, uh for fans of you, for fans of Bush, you know, you're in the studio, you've you're coming down under in September.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, besides touring, what can fans get excited about for the back half of 2026?
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, for me it's really gonna be about um touring, coming down there, and then uh shooting season two of the TV show.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: That's the plan, you know, and write the the the best record I've ever written, you know.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm definitely gonna do that.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: So hopefully the TV show.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_03: TV always takes longer than I could ever have imagined, so I hope so.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: But that's it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's sort of it, and uh take some time.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: My boy, uh my youngest boy is playing his first year tackle football as a um you know as a quarterback.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: He might be second, so we're not sure, but we're you know, he's only 12, so if he's a second string, he's got time to become first, you know.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: I keep telling you world champions, no world champion is a world champion at 12.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: Because a world champion-year-old world champion is not a world champion later on.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's just it's just it's just time you run.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_03: Time you run, son.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: You're all good.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: Just enjoy yourself, work hard at it, do not try and be the best of the world at 12 because it goes away.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want to peak in high school.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, no peaking.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: You're just learning, getting into it, and uh, yeah, that's it.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: Well, for everyone listening, if you haven't already, make sure to go and pick up a ticket to Bush and Shinedown's co headline tour in September, heading all across Australia and New Zealand from the 17th of September until the 29th.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: Gavin Rostale, thank you so much for jumping on the call.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: All the best, have a great day.