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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, March 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, J P. Shacker, John Osan and NFL Network
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Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest
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Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill Jack wars everything's got to be
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Speaker 1: about the future, has got to be about tomorrow and
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Speaker 1: bringing all that into focus as we know, attack the season.
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into
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Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, March J P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick with Bucky Brooks and John Osier. Good order, Bucky
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Speaker 1: Brooks and then John Areson. Mean it's it's it's consistent,
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Speaker 1: it's good. I like it. I'm right. Well, here we are.
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Speaker 1: It is. Free agency is underway. The Jags of course
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Speaker 1: have done some damage the first week of free agency.
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Speaker 1: It is now Pro Day season as well with the
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Speaker 1: free agency stuff coming up. But don't look now, we're
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Speaker 1: only a few week away from the start of the
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Speaker 1: off season program as well. But Bucky, it's quarterback Pro
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Speaker 1: Day season that's taking up your time this week. Um
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Speaker 1: you know remember you know I saw a thing on
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Speaker 1: this on Facebook. Right, They do these memory things that
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Speaker 1: pay so many years ago this happened. You posted this,
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Speaker 1: We probably have some similar memories. I posted photos from
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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewaters pro day at Louisville. Right. It was also
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Speaker 1: the same year as Johnny Manziel and Blake Bortles. Of course, UM,
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Speaker 1: you know, this quarterback class might not have the flashy
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Speaker 1: names of that class, Maybe they'll have better success. Um.
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Speaker 1: What do you like so far about the quarterback week
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Speaker 1: in the pro days? Bucky? Uh? You know, JP, I
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Speaker 1: think we have to kind of talk about it in
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Speaker 1: terms of the way that we're seeing the league's shift.
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Speaker 1: We're seeing the size of you change in the way
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Speaker 1: people are treating the quarterback, and that will have a
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Speaker 1: ripple effect on the college game and the college quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: that are in this draft. Um, we've never seen as
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Speaker 1: much term over in movement up top of the National
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Speaker 1: Football League with um quote unquote elite quarterbacks changing teams
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Speaker 1: still in their prime, and that has led us to
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Speaker 1: look at the quarterback position a little differently. I think
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Speaker 1: when the money escalated and got to the point where
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Speaker 1: it's forty million dollars for um, your high end quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: I think teams are now making decisions based on if
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Speaker 1: I don't have what I deemed to be an elite quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I'm not just going to pay him to keep him around. Uh,
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Speaker 1: there was a time where we were doing that. We
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Speaker 1: saw that even in Jacksonville, where maybe Blake Borders wasn't
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Speaker 1: a high end guy, but he still got paid like that.
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Speaker 1: And what happens upsets to apple Cart and the locker
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Speaker 1: room teams, and they're going away from that. And I
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Speaker 1: think what happened in the postseason when you saw Pat
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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Matt Staff, where the
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Speaker 1: quarterback made plays, I think it raised the bar for
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Speaker 1: what we expect from the quarterback. And so now when
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Speaker 1: we look at these college guys in the to draft,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if people are really fired up about
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Speaker 1: the class unless you have great tools. And so the
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Speaker 1: entrigue yesterday was on Malik Willis, and Malik Willis has
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Speaker 1: tools that will be reminiscent of what we saw from
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes and those guys where
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Speaker 1: you're almost doing like baseball scouting, where you kind of
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Speaker 1: ignore the performance and the production and you're you're making
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Speaker 1: the evaluation based on what they bring to the table physically,
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Speaker 1: raw arm, talent, uh, athleticism and that stuff, and then
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Speaker 1: you're hoping that you can coach them up and maybe
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Speaker 1: if it hits you get one of those elite quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think people now are selling for mediocrity,
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Speaker 1: which really makes the conversation interesting when we start thinking
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Speaker 1: about how Trevor Lawrence needs to progress over the next
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Speaker 1: four years before you have to start doing that big,
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Speaker 1: big pay day, and how you build your team around
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Speaker 1: an elite quarterback making big money. I'll say this leading
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Speaker 1: into a question for the scout, but what you just said,
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Speaker 1: But key, if I was a GM, which obviously I'm
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Speaker 1: never going to be a GM, I think you will
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Speaker 1: sell yourself short scouting a guy and drafting him high
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Speaker 1: and thinking that you're going to develop a guy because
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Speaker 1: he has tools and he's never shown it. The old
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Speaker 1: man shouting at at our clouds inside and he says
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Speaker 1: that is a risky way to get a quarterback. As
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Speaker 1: somebody who sat in those rooms, as somebody who you know,
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Speaker 1: I think I could be a GM as yourself. Would
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Speaker 1: that not scare the heck out of you? Well, I
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Speaker 1: think if you if you look at it this way,
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about our prototypes. So there are two
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Speaker 1: ways to do it where you can look at the
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Speaker 1: prototypical guy who has a height, weight, arm, talent, checks
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Speaker 1: off all the intangible qualities and those things, and you're like, look,
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Speaker 1: the performance hasn't always been clean, but the odd suggest
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Speaker 1: that the elite quarterbacks have X, Y and z. This
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Speaker 1: guy has that. He just hasn't put it together as
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Speaker 1: opposed to the noodle larm quarterback that we know is
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Speaker 1: just a guy, but then we get him and we
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Speaker 1: get comfortable with him being the quarterback, and then we
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Speaker 1: don't want to move on because we're like, yeah, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't have this, but we don't want to go out
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Speaker 1: and search for better. I think what you're now seeing
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Speaker 1: is everyone is on the hunt to get a top
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Speaker 1: five guy, and if you're not a top five guy,
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Speaker 1: it's just not a birth right for you to be
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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback long term for a franchise. I think
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Speaker 1: that's the main shift, and so yeah, you don't necessarily
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Speaker 1: want to make those gambles. But what you do now, John,
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Speaker 1: is you swinging. You swing for the fences, and if
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Speaker 1: you don't like it, you move on and get the
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Speaker 1: next one before when we talk about drafting guys in
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Speaker 1: the first round, you draft to go in the first round.
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Speaker 1: You kind of married to him for a long time.
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Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns moved off of Baker Mayfield he was
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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and let him into a
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Speaker 1: post A playoff win, and they're like, yeah, we know
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Speaker 1: we need better to beat the other guys. That's where
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Speaker 1: we're seeing the bar is now going. They're raising the
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Speaker 1: bar for expectations for quarterbacks, and I like it because
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Speaker 1: that's how the bar was always raised for position players.
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Speaker 1: We settled with quarterbacks because we're like, yeah, we don't
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Speaker 1: want to bring you in competition, whereas we should always
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Speaker 1: want the best quarterback that we can find. Rams were
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Speaker 1: like that too, golf right, and then we can't get
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Speaker 1: over the humpless go get Matthew Stafford and it worked
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Speaker 1: out for them a super Bowl. Yeah, because now you
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Speaker 1: have to think about the position and talent and tools,
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Speaker 1: and so in Jacksonville, we should feel better about Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence because even though last year, the rookie year, like
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Speaker 1: the numbers weren't what we like, the talent and the
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Speaker 1: tools still show up. The talent shows up, the tools.
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Speaker 1: He's long, he's athletic, he has great arm talent. You
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Speaker 1: you gamble on those guys, the guys who don't have that,
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Speaker 1: You're quick to move on because ideally, man, you want
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Speaker 1: the guy who not only can play, but he also
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Speaker 1: wins the beauty pageant when it comes to the attribute,
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Speaker 1: I wonder, um, and maybe it's because I've seen it
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Speaker 1: the other way in my whole career. Do you think
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Speaker 1: this will be the trend? Because it feels so chaotic
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Speaker 1: and usually in the NFL things settled down after a
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Speaker 1: time like this. Do you think this is gonna be
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Speaker 1: a trend? Do you think me? Or I guess they
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Speaker 1: has to play out. If it works, then people are
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Speaker 1: gonna follow it. If it doesn't, people won't. Right. Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 1: I think the trend has been the last two years.
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Speaker 1: You've seen teams be very aggressive, uh and getting guys
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Speaker 1: that they felt like it helped him get over the hump. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The Sampa Bay Buccaneers did it with Tom Brady. Then
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady brought in all of his friends and it
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Speaker 1: worked out. They want a Super Bowl. You look at
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Speaker 1: the l A Rams. The L A Rams basically gave
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Speaker 1: up a ton of draft picks to get premier players,
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Speaker 1: and those premier players helped them bring back a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: And so now what you're seeing is people aren't as
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Speaker 1: married to the draft picks as they used to be
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Speaker 1: because there's an old, antiquated thing. I want to draft
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Speaker 1: and develop. I want to bring all these draft picks in.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna hit on them, and then we're gonna raise
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Speaker 1: them up. Well, we're seeing like, uh, maybe I pay
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Speaker 1: the premium to get really good players, and really good
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Speaker 1: players can help you win games. And yeah, we need
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Speaker 1: to have some guys that develop into role players, but
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Speaker 1: I need stars and stars that was winning in this league.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's the old theory that quarterbacks always get
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Speaker 1: pushed up the board. Um, since quarterback Week, I'll ask
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Speaker 1: you this, Uh, this seems like the year that might
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Speaker 1: test that theory. I think anybody thinks there's a quote
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Speaker 1: unquote elite guy number one worthy pick. Uh. But I
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Speaker 1: guess the question is how much will that theory be tested?
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Speaker 1: How much will somebody get pushed up? And are you
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Speaker 1: gonna run a big risk of overdrafting this year because
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Speaker 1: of that? So I think what we're seeing is a
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Speaker 1: market correction of that silly theory that somehow got in
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Speaker 1: the draft rooms where a we pushed quarterbacks up. So
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Speaker 1: now what you're seeing all these teams scrambling to find
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Speaker 1: these premier quarterbacks. Guys had to move off of those
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Speaker 1: guys that were pushed up the board, and what we're
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Speaker 1: seeing other guys left behind. You know, Baker Mayfield probably
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Speaker 1: should have never been a number one overall pick. You
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Speaker 1: look at Sam Donald and some of the other guys
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Speaker 1: that have gone through it. We're moving off of those guys.
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Speaker 1: I think now we have, Man, it's only like like
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Speaker 1: maybe one quarterback playing with his original team after being
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Speaker 1: a high pick or whatever. Russell Wilson has moved on.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it is now to the
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Speaker 1: point where, um, we're having higher standards for quarterbacks, and
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Speaker 1: we're not going to just take a guy because we
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Speaker 1: need a guy. We need to take a legitimate, high
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Speaker 1: end guy. If we're gonna invest in it, you don't
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Speaker 1: want to settle, because what happens is when you sett
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Speaker 1: up for a draft pick, you're now married to him
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Speaker 1: for five years, and if you know that he's not
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Speaker 1: that guy, what are we doing. It's just too hard
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Speaker 1: to win in this league when particularly in the a
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Speaker 1: f C. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I mean, on and on and on. Matt
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Speaker 1: Ryan is now you have to draft thinking the kid
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Speaker 1: that we're going to draft, can he beat Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: in the shootout? Canny be, Patrick Mahomes? Can he be?
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Speaker 1: If he can't, then you need to move on and
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Speaker 1: just keep waiting for the guy that that you can
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Speaker 1: get that can beat those guys. This is a huddle
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Speaker 1: of podcast j P Shadrick, John Osier, and Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Pro Day today. Wide receivers all over the place.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Garrett Wilson, cris olav will have eyes all
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Speaker 1: over them. But going back to the quarterback conversation, c J.
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Speaker 1: Strouds is going to be throwing to them. He's not
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Speaker 1: eligible to come out this year in the NFL draft,
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Speaker 1: and that's that's you know, all eyes on Columbus today, Bucky, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all eyes on Columbus because you get an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: see the wide receivers who are terrific, outstanding. Garrett Wilson,
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Speaker 1: um cris Olive. They have a tied in Jeremy Ruckert
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Speaker 1: who is intriguing. Yeah, but all eyes are on those playmakers.
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Speaker 1: But while you're looking at the playmakers, you can't help
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Speaker 1: but look at the passer and C. J. Stroud right now,
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Speaker 1: like some guys are kind of penciling him and we
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Speaker 1: just put an infrencil Npin. But he's an intriguing prospect
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Speaker 1: in three where we'll talk about him maybe being the
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Speaker 1: top quarterback in that class if he eventually elects to
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Speaker 1: come out, and so to get a chance to get
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Speaker 1: around him, to see him spend it to his guys.
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Speaker 1: You certainly make notes on those kinds of things, and
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Speaker 1: it helps you as you begin to advance and look
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Speaker 1: ahead to next year's class. I have to wonder, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong, but h I've been wrong before,
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Speaker 1: you know, JP, it's a I wonder if we are
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Speaker 1: looking at the beginnings of the end for the pro
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Speaker 1: day concept with the injuries. Yeah, your tweet earlier in
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Speaker 1: the week, David Jabo had the achilles injury, John and
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Speaker 1: at Michigan and the Maiden Hundredson canceled his workout with
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Speaker 1: the Jags apparently, And maybe I'm just way off base,
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Speaker 1: but sort of with some of the players and the
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Speaker 1: agents sort of standing up against the combine, maybe a
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Speaker 1: little more power on that end. It is a risk,
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Speaker 1: and there is a school of thought of you know,
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Speaker 1: if if you don't know these guys by the time
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Speaker 1: they finished college, is it really necessary to put him
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Speaker 1: through this Now. I also know there's the other side
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Speaker 1: of it, which is that you can tear and Achilles
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Speaker 1: walking down the street. You know, there's risk and everything.
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Speaker 1: So is there any chance that we see these diminished
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Speaker 1: go away or maybe just the star is not participating.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's probably the endgame. Yeah, it starts with
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Speaker 1: the stars first. And look, yeah, I think we're at
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Speaker 1: the point where you mitigate the risks when it comes
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Speaker 1: to it. If I'm a high they decorated prospect where
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Speaker 1: I put together numbers and I've got a lot of
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Speaker 1: buzz and conversation that I might be a first round pick.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the risk is worth the reward
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Speaker 1: and maybe moving up a few spots, and so you
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Speaker 1: kind of have to figure out what do I want
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Speaker 1: to do and where am I at? Because if they
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Speaker 1: can't figure out off tape whether I can play or not,
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Speaker 1: I really don't know if a workout is going to
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Speaker 1: change that perception outside of kind of knowing what kind
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Speaker 1: of athletes they are. I would say this, if I
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Speaker 1: could advise a top prospect, I would say, he go
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Speaker 1: through the process, finished the season, do the stuff at
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Speaker 1: the combine, and immediately after the combin we're done. Because
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Speaker 1: if I work out at the combine, if I do
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Speaker 1: all the stuff at the combine, everyone has seen me,
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Speaker 1: everyone's seen me work out. If you can't figure it
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Speaker 1: out after those two things are done, then you have
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Speaker 1: to roll the dice and and figure it out on
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Speaker 1: your own, because I just I just think now with
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Speaker 1: the amount of money that we're talking about particuarly losing,
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Speaker 1: if I'm an agent, I just have to advise my
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Speaker 1: player to kind of sit and chill. And if we
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Speaker 1: think about old school scouting, old school scouting methods would
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Speaker 1: tell you you make the evaluation based off the film,
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Speaker 1: not the workout. So if I have um the film,
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Speaker 1: I get the confirmed numbers at the workout, meaning height, weight,
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Speaker 1: those things, speed, I get that there. I shouldn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: need to go back to the pro day to then
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Speaker 1: see some other stuff because what happens is you have
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Speaker 1: over zealous coaches and scouts who they can't help themselves, right,
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Speaker 1: because you gotta remember the coaches, they haven't touched their
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Speaker 1: players since the end of the year December. They can't
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Speaker 1: They can't wait to get on the grass and have
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Speaker 1: some guys that kind of move around and show that stuff.
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Speaker 1: And so sometimes those worst workouts can escalate in intensity
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to protect the players from there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think there's something to you know, we talked about
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, guys are training so hard
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Speaker 1: for the forty for example? Uh, are they training in
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Speaker 1: such a way that puts them at risk if they
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Speaker 1: actually go out and run a route. I just you know,
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Speaker 1: to me, I wonder if if the scouts just can't
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Speaker 1: do the job. Uh, And just get back to every
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Speaker 1: GM you ever talked to, and every scout you ever
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Speaker 1: talked to, will say, the reality is the combine is
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Speaker 1: more for show than it is for scouting and terms
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Speaker 1: of how they really rate players. So, oh yes, and
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Speaker 1: it's in primetime now, Bucky's all over. It may not
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Speaker 1: want that. You may get into a deal where the
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Speaker 1: league wants to have this thing and uh, players American idol.
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Speaker 1: It's American idol. Mary, That's where we love it to
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Speaker 1: be American Idol. We would love to have a bunch
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Speaker 1: of little regional combines all over the country that you
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Speaker 1: have to be the top guy at the regional combine
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Speaker 1: to earn your golden ticket to come to Indianapolis. Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine that that would be perfect for us to
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Speaker 1: see in chronicle the whereabouts and this got made at
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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis, Like look at little Joey. Joey gets a
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Speaker 1: chance to run in front of the scouts. We get
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Speaker 1: all the ratings and commercials. But but that's part of
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Speaker 1: that's part of the dream, and so you want to
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Speaker 1: sell that. But yeah, you're right, the combine is definitely
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Speaker 1: all for show. Now it's a TV event. I mean
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Speaker 1: you you talk to scouts, like even the guys in
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Speaker 1: the building, they're knowing because the schedule is flipped because
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Speaker 1: we accommodate from time. Now they're running at night and
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Speaker 1: so they switched to interviews. Yeah, that's a big event.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's fun, though what else we're gonna talk about.
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Speaker 1: It's fun, but it's not fun for the players who
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Speaker 1: risk injury. So again, I just wonder if we're not
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Speaker 1: seeing a trend where eventually we see a different dynamic
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Speaker 1: there in terms of the stars. Now just the top guys,
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Speaker 1: the top, These top guys may see yeah, we may
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Speaker 1: see the top guys go. But hey, the guys Day
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Speaker 1: two or Lord, they they have to work. If you
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Speaker 1: guys who want the dream, who are chasing the dream,
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Speaker 1: yeah absolutely, I mean yeah, they gotta go prove they
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Speaker 1: have to go get it. So there's always enough guys
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Speaker 1: for us to watch. We may just remember that there
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Speaker 1: was a time John where the top guys never worked
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Speaker 1: out of and they never worked out. Then they put
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Speaker 1: it on TV, and that encouraged those guys to begin
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Speaker 1: to work out and that stuff. And so it may
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Speaker 1: kind of come back full circle where the store the
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Speaker 1: stars don't work out anymore. We just see all the
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Speaker 1: other guys. But then the league will come back and
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Speaker 1: maybe counting and say, hey we gotta workout Warrior of
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Speaker 1: the Weekend. There might be a little incentive for them
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Speaker 1: to work out. I tell you my Bill Pollyon story
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Speaker 1: on that. For two or three years, I'm with the Colts,
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Speaker 1: and he was railing against the idea of it being
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Speaker 1: on on on TV because every old school GM and
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Speaker 1: builds as old school as it gets. It's it's a
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Speaker 1: football event. We don't want it on TV. First year back,
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Speaker 1: everybody ran, he loved it. Everybody ran it got him
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Speaker 1: what they wanted. So uh but I think the day's
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Speaker 1: very very running are coming to an end, even on TV.
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Speaker 1: So there you have it. The Pro Day season is here.
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Speaker 1: But for how long we're back? At a moment social
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Speaker 1: media questions, Yes we uh we put the bat signal out.
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Speaker 1: We'll figure out what we've come up with after this.
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Speaker 1: Dave Matthews two nights in June. We've got a lot
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Speaker 1: of great shows coming up at Daily's Place. Now let's
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Speaker 1: get to social media questions, and there has been a
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Speaker 1: little activity, just as in the time frame we've been
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Speaker 1: recording this podcast. Actually, Ian Rappaport, your colleague and NFL
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Speaker 1: network Bucky put out a tweet just a few moments
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Speaker 1: ago said, is there another blockbuster coming? Despite an offer
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Speaker 1: from the Chiefs that would make superstar Tyreek Hill one
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Speaker 1: of the highest paid receivers, extension talks have stalled, and
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Speaker 1: Kansas City has now given Hill's agent permission to seek
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Speaker 1: a trade. Sources say, our first question we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: to to day is from at that guy, Tyler, Is
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Speaker 1: it even possible to add Tyreek Hill? If not, can Bucky?
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Speaker 1: Can you rank the best wide receivers in the draft?
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Speaker 1: We should be looking at number thirty three overall Tyreek Hill?
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The contract, He's a one million dollar cap
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Speaker 1: hit for the Chiefs this year, two point six dead
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Speaker 1: money to them. Uh. I don't think you can make
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Speaker 1: that move in Jacksonville just because you don't have to
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Speaker 1: pay him. You've already paid all those other guys. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you can fit him in to the mix.
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Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like you still got
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Speaker 1: a dig in the background because there's still some character
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Speaker 1: stuff that came out when he was a drafted that
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Speaker 1: you have to be comfortable with when you're fan base.
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Speaker 1: You know UM, but he's an intriguing option as a
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Speaker 1: big time player. UM. The second part of the question
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Speaker 1: was tied in at is that what you ask wide receivers?
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Speaker 1: We mentioned too earlier. The guys that you know Ohio State,
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Speaker 1: they're there a million of him. John Dodson could be
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Speaker 1: in the mix. UM. Sky More from Western Michigan could
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Speaker 1: be a guy UM that could ask some juice and
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Speaker 1: sizzle to the lineup. UM. A guy that I like,
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Speaker 1: but I worry about a speed not being enough to
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Speaker 1: kind of change the or impact the wide receiver corps
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Speaker 1: would be David Bill from Perdue. UM. There are many
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Speaker 1: guys I would say keep an eye on this guy
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Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, Christian Watson. Uh. Not in the thirties,
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Speaker 1: but maybe late second round, early third round. Christian Watson
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Speaker 1: is a guy that dominant, has great size, great length,
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Speaker 1: and when we think about the success that Cooper Cup
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Speaker 1: hat game is not identical. But he could be the
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Speaker 1: next guy from a small school to kind of pop
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Speaker 1: as a as a big time pro and Bucky you
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Speaker 1: said it before, but for the purposes of this question,
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Speaker 1: you think it's possible in this draft to get a
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Speaker 1: long term big time player thirty three wide receiver, right, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's where you want to be. You
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Speaker 1: want to be because someone So here's the thing, all
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Speaker 1: thirty two draft wards are different, Um, and so someone
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Speaker 1: is going to take a player that you deem to
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Speaker 1: be not necessarily a great player, and so there's going
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Speaker 1: to leave someone that's how on your board there in
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Speaker 1: the second round. So yeah, I think you can find
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Speaker 1: you can find guys. I think it might be an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to get Um another offensive lineman if you say
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Speaker 1: that you still need some more help there, you have
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get any of your pass catchers that
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Speaker 1: you want. And I think you also can get a
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Speaker 1: corner you know. I mean, it's gonna be wide open
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Speaker 1: for you at that point. This is the Huddle Up Podcast.
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Speaker 1: We continue with social media questions and our next one
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Speaker 1: is at Hodari eleven. Is there anything that might give
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Speaker 1: you hesitation in drafting Aiden Hutchinson? Um, I would say
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Speaker 1: this about a Hutchinson like people that Jenica lately get
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Speaker 1: a chance to see him against Georgia, and so that
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Speaker 1: one game kind of stands out to them in their mind.
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Speaker 1: I think the best thing that he is. I think
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Speaker 1: you knew exactly what you're getting. Um, You're getting a
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Speaker 1: high end player who has a tremendous motor. He has
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Speaker 1: great hand skills. Um, he's somewhere in that mix between
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Speaker 1: the bosses. Uh, he's not quite Joey and he's somewhere
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Speaker 1: in there with Nick in terms of how he's able
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Speaker 1: to kind of impact the game off the edge. When
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Speaker 1: you think about those two guys, those two guys have
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Speaker 1: been Pro Bowl players. I think he has that kind
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Speaker 1: of talent um. A lot of people underrate maybe his athleticism.
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Speaker 1: But all you have to do is look at the
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Speaker 1: comment Live to numbers. Numbers are ridiculous. He's a freak
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Speaker 1: athlete who has hand skills and a high motor. I
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Speaker 1: think people have to look beyond the packaging. This is
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Speaker 1: a really good player. He's very dynamic. At this point,
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Speaker 1: j P, I would draft Ted Bosa. I don't care what,
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Speaker 1: I don't care, long lost brother, Frank Bill, whatever, give me.
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Speaker 1: I love us to the point on that Jew is
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Speaker 1: your game. They focused all their energy Georgia did against
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. Basically in that game, you can't do that
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Speaker 1: because there's like three other guys that can rush the
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Speaker 1: pass here in the NFL on a defensive line, So
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Speaker 1: you can't really put your entire focus on that one player.
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Speaker 1: So in theory, you'll have some opportunities when it did
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Speaker 1: a true Bucky that with every guy at the top
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Speaker 1: of this draft, if you're gonna be able to pick
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Speaker 1: a hole in him somewhere. Yeah, So so let's just
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Speaker 1: think about who's at the top and what's available. So
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Speaker 1: you have the three offensive tackles that you can talk about,
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Speaker 1: Evan neil, Ikey Kwanu, Charles Cross. You have the pass
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Speaker 1: rushers Aidan Hussinson, Cavan Tipado. The wild card is uh
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Speaker 1: Walker from Georgian. And the thing that separates it is
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Speaker 1: when you're going through all that and you're at the
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Speaker 1: number one, you think about, who's the guy that I
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Speaker 1: can rely on that can give me consistent production that
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Speaker 1: is worthy of being a number one. When we think
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Speaker 1: about number one, the skills should be a guy that
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Speaker 1: can be a perennial Pro Bowl player, a guy who
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Speaker 1: can be a pillar as a position for your franchise
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Speaker 1: for for ten years. Everything that we know about Aidan
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Speaker 1: Hutchinson in terms of this football character is off the charts.
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Speaker 1: Hard worker, diligent, gets it professional and all of his
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Speaker 1: actions great leader, um, very productive player and we saw
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Speaker 1: as dominant show up on tape. Um. The athleticism is there,
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Speaker 1: all the things there. And so if you take a
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Speaker 1: player like that and it happens to feel I mean,
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Speaker 1: you talked about a guy that checks off all the
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Speaker 1: boxes coming in with some of the other guys like
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Speaker 1: iky Ikuana, great athlete, Mala Brawler needs some developmental school.
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Speaker 1: But then what I would say is where do we playing?
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Speaker 1: If you get him, where where does he play? Where
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Speaker 1: does he fit? What does he mean for Walker a little?
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Speaker 1: And those things? Same thing with Evan Neil. Evan Hill
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Speaker 1: is more we're finding Iggy Kuana, but he has some
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Speaker 1: athletic things that might be a little is when it
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Speaker 1: comes to dealing with the speed. And then Cross is
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Speaker 1: more past protector than Mala Brawl in the run game.
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Speaker 1: So if you're gonna throw or fifty times, he's kind
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Speaker 1: of the guy that you would prefer. And then the
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Speaker 1: other pastors of Cabin Tippo though. I mean it's kind
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Speaker 1: of I won't say fully boom or bus, but he's
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Speaker 1: a flasher who has these long lolls and production. If
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Speaker 1: I'm Doug Peterson, I kind of want things that I
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Speaker 1: can rely on into me. Hutchinson is the safe pick.
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Speaker 1: And I hate to say that because they put a
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Speaker 1: label on someone that he doesn't have a hot ceiling.
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Speaker 1: But I kind of trust that Aidan Hudson is gonna
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Speaker 1: be what we've seen, maybe more so than some of
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Speaker 1: the other guys. All Right, we've figured it out. Um,
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Speaker 1: there you have it. Our social media questions are in.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for all the submissions this week. Bucky. What's
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Speaker 1: the rest of the week hold for you? Any more
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks you're looking at beside c J. Stroud Apparently, Well,
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Speaker 1: today is a big day because you talked about c J. Straw,
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Speaker 1: But the rest of the legion of scouts didn't be
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Speaker 1: down at the sick hanging out there with Lane Kiffin
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Speaker 1: trying to check got old mac correl to see where
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Speaker 1: he where he falls because remember we haven't seen him
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Speaker 1: since the bowl game. He goes out on the sideline
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Speaker 1: with the ankle and we didn't get a chance to
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Speaker 1: see him return. So we haven't seen him throw. This
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Speaker 1: is our first chance being able to reacquaint ourselves with
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Speaker 1: him in this town. So this is a big day
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Speaker 1: to day down in Sip. Not a bad place to be. Oxford, Mississippi.
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Speaker 1: Some good lunch, that's what they tell me. Does what
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Speaker 1: they tell me down there. They tell me I need
26:23
Speaker 1: to make a trip down to to Oxford and just
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Speaker 1: kind of hang out, you know, just get a little
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Speaker 1: hottie tidy and just kind of see what's going on.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're you're learning. So, Yes, it's a fantastic place.
26:33
Speaker 1: It's you know, Oxford literary literally literary town. They've got
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Speaker 1: all the libraries, all these things. It's very nice there. Yes,
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Speaker 1: bookstore yeah, big time Yeah, big time baseball too. I've
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Speaker 1: seen some of those games. They throw all the drinks
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Speaker 1: in the air and the whole thing, so it's like
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Speaker 1: a party. Uh we missed out. Speed limits eighteen miles
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Speaker 1: per hour on campus. It's Archie's number. Yeah, that's right,
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Speaker 1: I've seen that about that true story. I thought I
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Speaker 1: thought they wanted to go slow enough so you can
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Speaker 1: look around and take taking all the sites that might
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Speaker 1: have something to do with it. There are a few. Bucky,
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Speaker 1: have a great week. On that note, that's Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: John Oser for Joe for Tonado. I'm J P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on a Huddle Up podcast