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MINI SCROLL: JoJo Siwa talks child stardom, Four Seasons Orlando x Fully Conscious Baby + Scarlett Johansson vs. OpenAI · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, Welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  All right, let's just get right in to the stories.
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  So the first story that I have for you guys, I'm sorry, I know
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  that I talk about JoJo Siwa like every fucking day on this
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  podcast. And if you don't care about JoJo
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  Siwa, this is probably really annoying for you.
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  But I feel like there's in like certain periods of time in
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  celebrity and influencer culture.
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  There's certain personalities who are obviously either on like
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  press tours or like they're just really buzzy.
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  And she's just one of those people, You know, for a while it
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  was Taylor Swift. Like almost every episode we
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  talked about Taylor. Now here we are talking about
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  JoJo. So JoJo Siwa, it seems as though
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  she might be changing her perspective on child stardom.
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  So it seems that JoJo might be ready to confront the realities
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  of her child stardom. In a new interview with
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  Australian radio personality Small Z, JoJo opened up about
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  her experience as a child star, and her comments contradict some
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  of the recent things she has said in the past.
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  So JoJo went on the Call Her Daddy podcast, as we know
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  recently, and a lot of those clips went viral.
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  But something that didn't get enough attention was JoJo
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  talking about her Coogan account and kind of her mom as her
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  manager. So for anyone that doesn't know
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  a Coogan account, that's based off of the Coogan law, and
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  essentially it's in the US. It's for child stars or anyone
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  who's a minor that works in like entertainment, and it protects
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  children from like, their parents taking all of their
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  money. So 15% of what the child makes
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  goes into a protected account called a Coogan account, and
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  they have access to that when they're 18.
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  The downside of that is that still 85% of their income while
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  they're minors working can go to their family and their parents.
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  And that seems to be the case with JoJo because on Call her
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  Daddy, she said that her parents were concerned that when she
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  turned 18, she would take the money in her Coogan account.
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  And she would basically be like, all right, bye.
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  And she would stop helping support them because I guess
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  they live off of, of course, what she was making all these
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  years. And she said on call her daddy,
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  you know, I reassured them like I wouldn't do that.
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  And I look at it now and I feel like so lucky that I get to help
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  support my family and I get to give them this life.
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  So she definitely still is supporting her family.
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  I mean as far as it sounds. But then last week when she went
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  on this Australian radio show, she had different things to say.
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  So she said that she does feel taken advantage of as a child
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  star. She said different than you know
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  how some of her colleagues felt taken advantage of when the
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  Quiet on Set documentary came out and they shared their
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  stories. She said she was not taken
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  advantage of in a quote UN quote like sexual way.
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  But she said from a business perspective she was, which is
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  really interesting. And then she also just kind of
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  like Off the cuff said that child stars should get 100% of
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  their Coogan account, which is very interesting because as we
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  know, her parents were living off the 85% of her income that
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  wasn't going into her Coogan account.
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  So a lot of people are taking these comments since they are so
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  different from what she said before as possibly an indication
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  that she is starting to kind of reconcile with what happened to
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  her. And if you listen to this
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  podcast, you know, I talk about JoJo all the time, but I also
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  talk about how she is a child *. And we don't give her enough
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  grace for the trauma that she would have been through and that
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  it's very obvious to me at that she hasn't done a lot of work in
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  like a reconciling with the trauma that would come with
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  being a child star. Like she obviously was exploited
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  in many ways. And she doesn't seem to have the
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  capacity at the moment to deal with that.
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  And I think that's because she's maintained so much relevance and
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  success and fame. So I think that this could be
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  the first little sprinkle of us seeing JoJo enter this new era
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  where she is ready to start confronting some of that stuff.
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  I hope she does, but I hope she does it in a healthy and
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  Safeway. And I've said this before, but I
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  think we're going to get some wild tell all book in like 10 to
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  20 years from her. All right.
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  The next story that I have for you guys is that The Four
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  Seasons Orlando is open to collaborating with a fully
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  conscious baby. That is a brain rot sentence if
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  I have ever said one. OK, so the girls like Annabelle
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  and Alex have been telling me all week since Monday that I
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  need to talk about fully conscious baby on mini scroll.
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  But I keep being like, well, what would I say?
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  Like there's this viral video and the baby puts his hand up
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  and it's so proper and everybody's making memes of it.
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  I mean, I guess I talk about memes on this podcast, but this
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  one is just such a. It's not like a cultural moment
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  that you can participate in. In the same way that I think
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  when we talked about like slice scene talk or even when I talked
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  about galvanized square steel talk, like those are things I
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  don't know, they just feel more like marketing moments.
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  Whereas this is just like a viral video, right?
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  OK, so there's this video. I'm sure you guys have seen it,
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  but a mom comes down the stairs and her husband is holding a
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  baby. And then there's a toddler and
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  she says, who wants to go The Four Seasons Orlando?
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  And they all say me and the baby.
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  It's motor skills seems so refined.
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  Like she puts up her hand like this and her one finger is
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  pointed. She's like me.
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  People are like, how does she know what you're saying?
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  How does she know what The Four Seasons Orlando is like?
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  She just said me like, right on the dot.
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  How is she putting her hand up like that?
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  It's in such a proper way. It's like she has such amazing
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  dexterity. So it's turned into this like,
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  whole thing online. So now the Rolling Stone has
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  interviewed the mother behind a fully conscious baby.
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  Also, people are calling her fully conscious baby because
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  she's like, fully conscious. Like she's like, it's it's like
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  an adult in a baby suit. That's what people are saying.
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  OK, so the baby's name is Kate. She is 13 months old.
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  Because I did see a lot of people say, oh, it's very clear
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  that that baby is like 2 years old but maybe just like looks
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  younger. And that's why she's like more
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  conscious, quote, UN quote. But now she's 13 months old.
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  And like I said, the mother was interviewed for Rolling Stone.
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  She says that she's like loving the feedback and that they have
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  this family group chat and people are screenshotting and
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  posting a lot of the like stitches and tiktoks and
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  comments and whatever that are really funny, like sending them
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  to each other. She said that Kate, the baby, is
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  not fully conscious. She says that she says things
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  like yes, no, like. She just responds in however
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  which way she wants to. And that, like this particular
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  video just happened to be like serendipitous where she just
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  said like the perfect right thing and did the right thing at
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  the right time. And they caught it on camera,
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  obviously. And now, of course, Four
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  Seasons. Orlando has said that they are
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  looking to collaborate great with fully Conscious Baby and
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  her family. Classic.
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  No, but honestly, that would just be such a missed
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  opportunity if they didn't Like, you have to jump on moments like
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  this. I actually saw a video from the
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  woman that runs the Duolingo account.
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  And you know, obviously Duolingo was like so successful on TikTok
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  and she was talking about the song I'm looking for a man in
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  finance, that one that's going off on TikTok.
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  And she was like, people ask me all the time, like brands and
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  marketing managers ask me all the time, how do we capitalize
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  on this? How do we make, like, authentic
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  viral moments on TikTok? And she's like, this is the
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  time, this song that's like viral right now.
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  If you are a financial services company or you touch money and
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  finances in any way, you need to be looking to collaborate with
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  this girl that made this song. You need to be looking to use
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  this song. You need to create content
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  around this moment. So yes, it would have been a
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  massively missed opportunity for The Four Seasons Orlando to not
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  collaborate great with this family.
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  And yeah, hopefully they get, you know, maybe a little free
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  vacation. All right.
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  And the last story that I have for you guys is that Open AI has
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  allegedly seemingly stolen Scarlett Johansson's voice.
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  So Scarlett Johansson is accusing Open AICEO Sam Altman
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  of recreating her voice for the chat bot of his company's chat
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  GB Tai system called Sky, as reported by Entertainment
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  Tonight. Scarlett Johansson said Quote
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  last September I received an offer from Sam Altman who wanted
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  to hire me to voice the current ChatGPT 4 Point O system.
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  He told me that he felt that by my voicing the system, I could
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  bridge the gap between tech companies and creative and help
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  consumers to feel comfortable with the seismic shift
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  concerning humans and AI. He said he felt that my voice
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  would be comforting people. Scarlett ended up declining
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  after quote much consideration and for personal reasons.
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  However, she said so many of her friends and family members noted
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  how similar Skies Chat bot voice sounds to her voice.
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  And Sam Altman, also like Low Key, confirmed that it was based
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  on Scarlets voice. He tweeted her in relation to
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  the chat bot, and this is a reference to a 2013 film in
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  which Scarlet voiced an AI chat bot.
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  The film was titled Her She said Quote.
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  In a time when we are all grappling with deep fakes and
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  the protection of our own likeness, our own work, our own
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  identities, I believe these are questions that deserve absolute
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  clarity. I look forward to resolution in
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  the form of transparency in the passage of appropriate
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  legislation to help ensure that individual rights are protected
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  and Scarlett has actually been one celebrity that has been very
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  vocal about the risk of AI and deep fakes, journalist Cat 10
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  Barge tweeted yesterday. Scarlett Johansson and AI.
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  She has been one of the celebrities at the forefront of
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  the non consensual deep fakes issue for longer than most
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  people knew they existed. She spoke out about the legal
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  impossibilities of fighting them back in 2018.
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  So in response to all of this, Sam Altman issued a statement to
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  The Verge. He said, quote, the voice of Sky
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  is not Scarlett Johansson and it never intended to resemble hers.
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  We cast the voice actor behind Sky's voice before any outreach
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  to Miss Johansson. Out of respect for Miss
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  Johansson, we have paused Sky's voice in our products.
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  We are sorry to Miss Johansson that we didn't communicate
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  better. Do I believe that they tried to
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  find somebody who sounds like Scarlett Johansson?
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  Yes, probably. I do believe that.
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  I think it's cool that she's pushing back on this and that
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  she's speaking out about this. I mean, this is such an ongoing
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  problem that these big tech giants, they have so much money
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  and so much power and they just like steamroll entire industries
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  and they make so much change so quickly and they just, they play
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  God like that's what they do. And I think it's really cool to
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  see such a prolific celebrity, somebody who is such a mainstay
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  in pop culture, like push back and be like, fuck you.
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  We're not doing this. Anyways, guys, that is it for
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  Mini scroll today. Thank you so much for listening.
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  but I am sick. If there is, that means I just
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  have allergies. All right, guys.
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  Thank you so much for listening. I love you and I might talk to
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  deep dive on Friday. All right.
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  Bye.